Paul Broun: Evolution, Big Bang theory ‘lies straight from pit of hell’

To the rest of the country, this may come as a bit of a surprise. To those of us in Georgia, not so much.

From the AP:

ATHENS, Ga. — Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are “lies straight from the pit of hell” meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.

The Republican lawmaker made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman’s banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.

“God’s word is true,” Broun said, according to a video posted on the church’s website. “I’ve come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”

The quote comes at 34:50 in the video above, in which Broun first recounts his exploits as a big-game trophy hunter. Later, he witnesses for Christ and tells his own personal story of finding salvation at a moment of crisis. Personally, I think a more telling moment comes a little earlier, when he tells the audience that pastors of other, more mainstream Christian denominations “are going to send their people to hell” because in his opinion, they do not stress a personal relationship with their savior.

Broun, who is a physician by training, sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. I think it’s important to stress that the setting for his remarks is religious in character rather than political.

– Jay Bookman

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
5:43 pm

What a buffoon.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
5:46 pm

who is a physician by training, sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

Almost as contradictory as having Bachmann on an intelligence committee.

TaxPayer

October 6th, 2012
6:02 pm

Isn’t Broun a gynecologist by training. If so, what the hell does he think he is looking for during a pregnancy. Women beware.

Robert Dale

October 6th, 2012
6:11 pm

“I think it’s important to stress that the setting for his remarks is religious in character rather than political.” That is very generous of you. Do you think he leaves these beliefs at the door when he enters the committee chambers?

Robert Dale

October 6th, 2012
6:13 pm

Isn’t Broun a gynecologist by training.

Is he? Then he has that in common withe Sen Colburn and Rep Paul. Does that job unhinge men’s minds?

Sigideba

October 6th, 2012
6:25 pm

Does he also think the earth is flat and that 2 + 2 = 3? This man should not be allowed to hold office. In fact, he should be put in an asylum for listening to voices in his head. This guy is living in the 1300s.

Truther

October 6th, 2012
6:25 pm

Well this is a problem. I was not aware the last dinosaur died in 1927.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-09/infographic-geologic-timescale-creationists

F. Sinkwich

October 6th, 2012
6:27 pm

He’s a Christian, so he has wacko beliefs, to be made fun of.

Sorta like Mormons.

If he was Muslim, hands off!

A reader

October 6th, 2012
6:29 pm

“sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.”

Doesn’t Akin sit on the same committee? Americans should be very afraid. They and their like want to turn back America to the 1950’s or earlier. While also saying that America’s education system is falling behind the rest of the world. It is no wonder when we have leaders like this.

getalife

October 6th, 2012
6:32 pm

“I’m tired of their craziness, and we just need to push back with rhetoric that is as tough as theirs,” DeFazio said in an interview. “I meant what I said. Why do they hate the country so much that they don’t want to make those needed investments to put millions of people to work? It’s just that they hate Obama so much they want the economy to fail. That’s all I can figure out. Either that or they’re just nuts. One or the other and I said both those things. And I stand by it.”

I will go with just nuts.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77220.html#ixzz28WsehKaj

Progress

October 6th, 2012
6:34 pm

Amazingly ignorant. At a time when we need students to be advancing in science and there is no shortage of jobs in STEM fields, we have “leaders” like this who pine for a return to the Dark Ages.

Progress

October 6th, 2012
6:42 pm

And what’s more embarrassing is that Broun represents Athens, home to a world class university. When our national representatives don’t have the knowledge required to pass a 9th grade end-of-course test it’s easy to see why the state of Georgia remains a laughingstock.

barking frog

October 6th, 2012
6:43 pm

A man who truly has been
staring into the abyss and
has been deeply affected.

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 6th, 2012
6:43 pm

F. Sinkwich: “If he was Muslim, hands off!”

Wow, amazing claim.

Stop and think about this. A Mormon is currently in the running for the presidency with close to even odds of being elected.

Of the historical presidents of this country, how many of them have been Christians ?

What would be the chances do you think of a Muslim getting as close to the office as the Mormon Romney is right now?

Now tell me, which religion is persecuted in this country really?

F. Sinkwich

October 6th, 2012
6:44 pm

O’bozo: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

Prophet Mohammed is a doofuss.

I guess I have no future now…

F. Sinkwich

October 6th, 2012
6:45 pm

“What would be the chances do you think of a Muslim getting as close to the office as the Mormon Romney is right now?”

Uh, he won in 2008?

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 6th, 2012
6:48 pm

“What would be the chances do you think of a Muslim getting as close to the office as the Mormon Romney is right now?”

Uh, he won in 2008?

Guess that about tells us all we need to know as in terms of how seriously to take what you say.

Mindstorms

October 6th, 2012
6:48 pm

What is truly scary is this guy actually gets elected to office.

Aquagirl

October 6th, 2012
6:48 pm

He should have stuck to the Christian theme of shooting animals for fun.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
6:49 pm

Sinky Braveheart… don’t really care what you do but if you really want to be brave, why dont you go post that nonsense on a radical site with your real name…. and then post some prochoice claims on some radical christian sites… see which “shows up at your door first”. :roll:

So rather than discuss the absurdity of the comments, you deflect to your absurdity about muslims…. and you call others doofuss. I suspect you have a mirror in front of your computer. :roll:

rightwingextreme

October 6th, 2012
6:50 pm

In the beginning God created…..

I guess some folks have a hard time accepting the fact that God is quite alive and well.

Now for those who say Christians are crazy and narrow minded for believing in God, allow me to ask two questions for those who support evolution and the big bang theory:

1) How can something come from nothing? In other words, where did the material the universe is made of come from?

2) How can life come from lifelessness?

I submit that if you believe that something can come from nothing and life from lifelessness, then I wish I had your faith as it is far greater than mine.

Mindstorms

October 6th, 2012
6:51 pm

If you’re wondering why Muslim zealots blow themselves up; or why atheists are depressed; or how Christian politicians can vote against unemployment extensions and for tax cuts for the wealthy, consider the first-century Roman statesman and philosopher Seneca, who wrote: “Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

F. Sinkwich

October 6th, 2012
6:58 pm

You Christian haters are fun to tweak. You always get wadded panties.

barking frog

October 6th, 2012
6:58 pm

I don’t care much for the
Big Bang Theory either but
I like Mike and Molly and
Rules of Engagement.

Truther

October 6th, 2012
6:59 pm

ND

October 6th, 2012
7:00 pm

“I think it’s important to stress that the setting for his remarks is religious in character rather than political.”

Yes, it is important to stress this to emphasize how out of touch Christianity is with reality. Also important to stress that other world religions do not share Christianity’s delusions.

Dan Williams

October 6th, 2012
7:00 pm

I wonder if it hurts to be that stupid.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
7:01 pm

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Truther

October 6th, 2012
7:04 pm

I wonder how Jesus felt about velociraptors. And why aren’t they mentioned in the bible?

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F. Sinkwich

October 6th, 2012
7:04 pm

“I wonder if it hurts to be that stupid.”

O’bozo doesn’t appear to be in any pain, but he’s just oblivious.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
7:06 pm

Wow. God favors FL.

I feel bad for all the LSU people going to hell.

Liz

October 6th, 2012
7:09 pm

Dr. Broun never fails to embarrass Georgia. His answer to the fixing the high uninsured rate in Georgia and all across the nation is to “pay” doctors to a maximum $7,000 if they provide pro-bono services to the destitute, via a tax credit (Go to his website and read his proposed bill). PLEEEASE; this is no way to provide for Americans. Why should we strive to place Americans in a constant state of insecurity? We can do better.

Doggone/GA

October 6th, 2012
7:11 pm

“Now for those who say Christians are crazy and narrow minded for believing in God”

There’s a BIG different between true Christians and people who use their form of that religion to justify their craziness.

F. Sinkwich

October 6th, 2012
7:12 pm

“Why should we strive to place Americans in a constant state of insecurity? We can do better.”

Sure, Liz, just pass a law to take everything from those who have more than you so you can have their stuff.

Cool.

Mitt

October 6th, 2012
7:12 pm

My opponent doesn’t pick the winners and losers. He just picks the losers.

At least I’m correct 50% of the time.

JBoston

October 6th, 2012
7:12 pm

Considering the fact that recent polls showed just under 80% of the US population identifying themselves with some religion I can get why this man is an elected offical. That said what I cannot grasp is how this buffoon was assigned to the United States House Committee on Science. I highly recomment that everyone contact the Committee, it’s chariman, Ralph Hall, and anyone else they think will help and get this buffoon removed from this Committee.

http://science.house.gov/
http://ralphhall.house.gov/

Doggone/GA

October 6th, 2012
7:12 pm

“Yes, it is important to stress this to emphasize how out of touch Christianity is with reality”

Not Christianity…SOME so-called “Christians”

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 6th, 2012
7:13 pm

Sinkwich.

So it sounds like you have it all figured out as a Christian and anti-Christian thing.

Do you see Catholics who believe, like most Christians in pre-modern times believed, that usury is a sin as anti-Christian?

And what about members of “mainline” Protestant churches, do you see them as anti-Christian?

Big Mama

October 6th, 2012
7:14 pm

Just another reason natives are embarrassed to be from Georgia.

Mitt

October 6th, 2012
7:15 pm

My opponent was unfairly disadvantaged during the debate. Past drug use.

And apparently current drug use too :)

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/maher-on-obama-looks-like-he-took-my-million-and-spent-137695.html

vuduchld

October 6th, 2012
7:17 pm

Hey,this idiot is just another example of what Romnutz touted in the debate, giving states the right to make decisions. It’s clearly evident that this bottom feeder is a quack, but fools in your “spontaneous generation” state are addicted to electing the dumb and clueless, no surprise here

Krystal'sBalls

October 6th, 2012
7:17 pm

@F. Sinkwich
October 6th, 2012
6:44 pm

You wanna impress us all? Let’s put that post to the test. PUBLISH IT UNDER YOUR REAL NAME! Go a step further and include the county in which you reside. I am not a Muslim by faith, but I would find it rather entertaining to see if you can stand behind all of that bravado. Frankly, a fanatic of any religious persuasion is still – a fanatic, INCLUDING Christians. How about getting YOUR panties out of a wad?

TM

October 6th, 2012
7:22 pm

Pretty low blow making fun of a man for his beliefs. I guess every person attending church tomorrow should be ashamed of their beliefs.

Micahel

October 6th, 2012
7:26 pm

We’ll just have to elect whomever runs against this dangerous, religious fanatic. I believe in God, and the theories may well be wrong, but to claim they are evil, that’s a dangerous mind that can make that statement.

Or maybe I should just leave the South. These nuts are every where.

Look before I leap...

October 6th, 2012
7:28 pm

Kind of surprised Broun allows himself to be recorded and photographed. Isn’t he fearful that the magic box is stealing his soul?

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
7:28 pm

“Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are “lies straight from the pit of hell” meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.”

I suspect the basis for Broun saying such a thing is the following verse in which Jesus is addressing unbelieving Jews:

“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” – John 8:44

I cannot defend his attack upon either embryology or the Big Bang theory (because AFAIK they, in and of themselves, do not conflict with the Bible and they – especially embryology – cannot be strongly challenged by either reason and evidence). The weekly supported hypothesis of evolution, however, is a different matter. If there is a God and an evil being called Satan, then (given that) it is not hard to conclude that this hypothesis might well be the “brainchild” of the “father of lies”. But even if that is so, I do not consider the belief in evolution to be what some call a “salvation issue” – just so long as that belief does not compromise one’s devotion to and trust in God. However, I very much believe that the promulgation of this hypothesis as a indisputably proven theory does, in fact, lead people away from Christianity or even seriously considering it because it calls into question the very basis for this faith – namely, the Bible.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
7:29 pm

Pretty low blow making fun of a man for his beliefs

Typical knee jerk response. I have no problem with his belief in God nor anyone elses whatever their religion. I do have a problem with someone who says that science is “lies” to keep them from their beliefs nd “understanding”. As a doctor, does he bleed people or does he believe in the science of germs?

TM

October 6th, 2012
7:32 pm

KUTGF= If you have no problems with his beliefs why do do you complain about his beliefs in religion than may differ from yours,

Look before I leap...

October 6th, 2012
7:33 pm

@Micahel:

He is running unopposed in the 10th.
Which I suppose says as much about the voters in the 10th as it does about Dr Broun.

Mary Alice

October 6th, 2012
7:34 pm

Three things we will have with us always, yea until the end of eternity:
Taxes
Death
Religious nuts

Jay

October 6th, 2012
7:34 pm

Pretty low blow making fun of a man for his beliefs

I sympathize with that point of view. On the other hand, Broun is condemning others to Hell for THEIR beliefs, so there is that.

Zeggman

October 6th, 2012
7:36 pm

Could be worse. This rube might still be practicing medicine.

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
7:37 pm

“Or maybe I should just leave the South…”

Maybe you should move to Chicago, a center for liberalism. I should caution you to bring along a bullet proof vest, though – and to avoid crossing the lines of striking teachers.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
7:37 pm

TM, apparently you failed to read my comment about “lies”. I realize the conned dismiss the need for evidence or facts before they make claims. “Beliefs” do not permit the displacement of evidence or facts.

You have no idea whether I believe in God or not.

G Mare

October 6th, 2012
7:38 pm

By the way, Phil Gingrey is also an OB/GYN. Please tell me he’s not on the Science committee, too!

Jm

October 6th, 2012
7:39 pm

TM

October 6th, 2012
7:42 pm

I don’t care what anyone believes in but when you mock someone because of their beliefs in religion its just wrong. You will recall that one of the reasons this country exist was for that freedom.

barking frog

October 6th, 2012
7:44 pm

Do both science and religion
take what is here and create
a theory of how it got here
and then provide evidence
to support the theory they
have created or is it just my
perception ?

Jay

October 6th, 2012
7:45 pm

“I don’t care what anyone believes in but when you mock someone because of their beliefs in religion its just wrong.

Again, TM: What do you say about Broun and others who outright condemn those of other beliefs to Hell? Isn’t that much more severe and intolerant than mere mocking?

TM

October 6th, 2012
7:46 pm

Jay what do you says to Christians who condemn the Jews for not believing in JC?

lynnie gal

October 6th, 2012
7:46 pm

Who’s mocking? This is a statement from the man, not mocking satire. You think it’s mocking because you know it’s so ridiculous.

hiram

October 6th, 2012
7:47 pm

I agree with those who categorize any and all religions as mental illness. When people actually start believing that fairy tales are true, there’s no other explanation. How did we regress to the point that we elect stark raving mad people, who should be in a padded cell somewhere, to run this country?

barking frog

October 6th, 2012
7:47 pm

beliefs
I sympathize with that
point of view. On the other
hand, Broun is
condemning others to Hell
for THEIR beliefs, so there
is that.
…………..
Good to see you have
common ground.

Jay

October 6th, 2012
7:47 pm

TM, personally, I think they ought to mind their own business.

TM

October 6th, 2012
7:49 pm

And so should you regarding Broun.

Tinkerella

October 6th, 2012
7:50 pm

And the worse thing about him making this statement…..he will get re-elected by Georgia zombie voters

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
7:51 pm

“I sympathize with that point of view. On the other hand, Broun is condemning others to Hell for THEIR beliefs, so there is that.”

First, I went to listen to the video for myself and it has apparently been removed – just an FYI. And the reason I did so was to see where Broun is explicitly condemning people to Hell for their beliefs. Broun has not the authority or power to actually do that. He is saying that people are leading others astray so that they wind up in Hell, but that is not an unbiblical idea. BTW, a very common and prevalent view of Hell is that it is a form of eternal torment. But I don’t think that is true and a strong case can and has been made that it is a place of temporary punishment followed by annihilation. The idea that human souls are now eternal is a Platonic one. Heaven is, in part, being granted the “gift” of “eternal life” (which we do not now possess).

Jm

October 6th, 2012
7:52 pm

“I don’t care what anyone believes in but when you mock someone because of their beliefs in religion its just wrong.”

I’m the last to defend Jay. But I don’t see him exactly mocking Broun. Highlighting and perhaps castigating his comments : maybe. Mocking? Not so sure.

hiram

October 6th, 2012
7:53 pm

@ tinker
Zombies are smarter than Georgia’s voters. They are more like someone on an acid trip…

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
7:56 pm

“I agree with those who categorize any and all religions as mental illness. When people actually start believing that fairy tales are true, there’s no other explanation. How did we regress to the point that we elect stark raving mad people, who should be in a padded cell somewhere, to run this country?”

Do you realize how incredibly stupid this comment appears? I am hoping it is a very amateurish stab at satire.

getalife

October 6th, 2012
7:58 pm

I am working on not going to hell but get your religion out of our politics.

barking frog

October 6th, 2012
7:58 pm

I have to give the muslims
credit, writing this column
about a political imam
would have you looking
over your shoulder more
often.

Big bang

October 6th, 2012
7:58 pm

hiram

October 6th, 2012
7:59 pm

@ town

“Do you realize how incredibly stupid this comment appears? I am hoping it is a very amateurish stab at satire.”

Your statement is indicative of how far removed from reality you are. You live in a child’s make believe world. Grow up.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:01 pm

Religious values have always been in politics, getalife.

That said, I agree when it comes to education in particular.

But a country without morals and values cannot survive. They may not come from religion, but they can and often do.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:03 pm

Hiram, I agree with TC that you’re being very simple minded. And close minded.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:04 pm

Look before I leap...

October 6th, 2012
8:04 pm

@TM:
In the face of it, your argument makes sense.
Then I think back over the years about how vociferously the mainstream Christian church in this country has condemned those who do not agree with the teachings of Christian bible. And while condemnation is merely an exercise of free speech, the church and its followers took action. People, legal citizens of the United States have been denied housing, jobs and the freedom to pursue THEIR beliefs simply because they were in contradiction with the teachings of the church.
And several hundred years ago, these same principals were used to arrest, interrogate, torture and execute (in some of the most HORRIBLE ways imaginable) under direction from Rome those who openly challenged ANY tenant posited by the church.
Galileo lived his last years fighting the Inquisitorial tribunal.
Anyone here still believe the Earth is the center of the universe?

I don’t think anyone deserves a pass on saying idiotic things simply because it is said in a religious context. That said, I usually dismiss and ignore such rantings. But Broun is a member of the US Congress and thus is in a position to affect federal policy and that makes him dangerous.

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
8:05 pm

“I’m the last to defend Jay. But I don’t see him exactly mocking Broun. Highlighting and perhaps castigating his comments : maybe. Mocking? Not so sure.”

I think that Jay, like the rest of us, falls into a finger-pointing mode whenever or often we begin “discussing” politics. We all know that most of the politicians who advocate for our “positions” are themselves not very admirable, competent, effective or selfless individuals that we can really defend. So we lapse into attacking the words and actions of those on the other side of the “aisle” to make our side seem more “right”. We seldom conduct a comprehensive, rationale and dispassionate evaluation of the positions.

hiram

October 6th, 2012
8:06 pm

Religion is nature’s way of controlling the population. Sort of like lemmings jumping off of a cliff. Utlimately, religion will result in the extinction of our species, along with most of the others. Even flat worms aren’t stupid enough to commit suicide.

hiram

October 6th, 2012
8:08 pm

@ town
I’ve conducted a comprehensive, rationale and dispassionate evaluation of your position, and my opinion of your sanity hasn’t changed.

getalife

October 6th, 2012
8:09 pm

jm,

I have no problem with religion.

Just keep it out of politics.

It creates more problems and distractions and we should be focused on good paying jobs and keeping the peace in the world.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:10 pm

Hiram’s 8:06

That’s officially a mindless rant

getalife

October 6th, 2012
8:10 pm

How about them dawgs?

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm

“Your statement is indicative of how far removed from reality you are. You live in a child’s make believe world. Grow up.”

Really? Well, you are basically saying that (among many, many others) Issac Newton and Martin Luther King, Jr (for example) belonged in a sanatorium. And you stupidly say imply that the election of a religious politician is some kind of historical “regression”. If you are an atheist, you should probably shut up because you are embarrassing your fellow atheists as a whole.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm

Get 8:09

100% agreed. Or almost 100% anyway

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:12 pm

Hiram = troll

Or simpleton

TM

October 6th, 2012
8:13 pm

Getalife- It looks like the puppies showed up tonight instead of the dogs.

Orange12

October 6th, 2012
8:13 pm

UGA is getting LIT up!

Towncrier

October 6th, 2012
8:14 pm

“Even flat worms aren’t stupid enough to commit suicide.”

Neither are they stupid enough to embarrass themselves by saying really, really dumb things and NOT EVEN REALIZE IT. Nuff said.

hiram

October 6th, 2012
8:14 pm

@ jm
It’s all relative. People, who possess all of their faculties, know who’s mindless.

Jm

October 6th, 2012
8:14 pm

TC 8:05 I tend to agree

I do wish more religions would reconcile science and their beliefs better

They’re not irreconcilable

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 6th, 2012
8:15 pm

getalife: “It creates more problems and distractions and we should be focused on good paying jobs and keeping the peace in the world.”

There are many, not just Rep. Broun, who see politics without grounding in religion as contradiction in terms. They’re the enemies of liberalism. But they never seem to go away.

Jay

October 6th, 2012
8:15 pm

By the way, when I wrote that “they ought to mind their own business,” I extend that to those atheists who aggressively condemn and belittle those of religious faith. I see that as just the other side of the same coin.

hiram

October 6th, 2012
8:17 pm

@ jm
“I do wish more religions would reconcile science and their beliefs better.”

“They’re not irreconcilable”

I hate to inform you, but, they are irreconcilable – one is based on facts, the other is made up nonsense, perpetuated for profit.

Jay

October 6th, 2012
8:17 pm

Also, I think those who pulled the entire video have done themselves and Broun a disservice. Whatever you think of his comments, they look worse out of context than in the full context.

barking frog

October 6th, 2012
8:18 pm

Broun should be given some
latitude due to his occupation. Doctors see
miracles more often the
rest of us and if you take
God you have to take
Satan.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2012
8:20 pm

if you take God you have to take Satan.

Why?