With 200,000 new jobs, jobless rate falls to 7.8%

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate fell to 7.8 percent in September after a gain of 114,000 jobs. That’s the lowest jobless rate in 44 months.

The fall in the jobless rate was accelerated by the discovery of 86,000 new jobs that had gone uncounted in July and August, for a total of 200,000 previously uncounted jobs.

That pattern suggests that September’s numbers may be revised upward as well. In an improving economy, as this one seems to be, monthly BLS stats typically undercount job creation because jobs appear in places they weren’t necessarily looking.

Moreover, the sharp decline in the unemployment rate is NOT due to a decline in those in the workforce. To the contrary, the BLS reports, “The civilian labor force rose by 418,000 to 155.1 million in September.”

In other words, a better economy is drawing people back into the job market to look for work. The average wage rose as well.

– Jay Bookman

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 5th, 2012
11:19 am

Two points:

1) Either …………. (as I heard earlier) the Obama Administration has “cooked the books” on these stats (Chicago style).

2) Or ………….. some in the business world are sensing that Obama will be defeated and have decided to RISK an early start on their business investments.

Erwin's cat

October 5th, 2012
11:19 am

how convenient is right

Mark in mid-town

October 5th, 2012
11:19 am

Show a trend of job growth in well paid jobs over a period of several months and it is meaningful.”

Would an increase of 3.9 million private-sector jobs over the last two years meet that test? Because that’s exactly what has happened.
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So I guess this would mean that median income has substantially risen during this time, right Jay?

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:20 am

Jay

October 5th, 2012
9:31 am
Just took a look out of curiosity: In Ohio, the jobless rate has fallen from 10.6 to 7.2 percent in the last three years.

Ohio, did someone tout Ohio?

Ohio poll: Romney leads 51-48 among those certain to vote

The first post-presidential debate poll in critical Ohio shows that Mitt Romney blunted President Obama’s momentum with his winning performance and is now leading the president among Ohioans who say that they are “certain” to vote.

Overall, the race is deadlocked with Obama over Romney 50 percent to 49 percent, according to the poll taken Thursday night.

But among the stunning 92 percent of all voters in the state who say that they are certain to go to the polls on Election Day, Romney leads 51 percent to 48 percent. And among the 83 percent who have already made up their minds how they will vote, Romney is ahead 52 percent to 48 percent.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-poll-romney-leads-51-48-among-those-certain-to-
vote/article/2509947#.UG7vQU3A-gR

Virginia is coming around to Romney, too.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 5th, 2012
11:20 am

Since everything in the last 4 years was Bush’s fault, should it not be fair to say, the unemployment rate drop is Bush’s achievement? Be nice people, remember an eye for an eye!

Brosephus™

October 5th, 2012
11:21 am

But how the heck does the unemployment rate drop 3/10 of a point in one month when quarterly GDP was recently revised from an anemic 1.7% to an abysmal 1,3%?

Because the two are not related to each other.

Dirty Dawg

October 5th, 2012
11:21 am

Guess the BLS statistics can’t report how much of these new jobs are due to businesses that had been sitting on all that cash in the belief that holding the economy back would mean Obama would be a one-termer, and deciding that Romney was ‘dead in the water’ so they might as well get on with business.

alex

October 5th, 2012
11:22 am

@jay, did you seriously write”seriously folks” to make a DEFINITIVE point; I just love that, as if YOU are not biased… Goodness. As for Jack Welch :let’s see who has numbers experience, business experience, hmmm, Jay-seriously, let’s get serious….

as for Ohio, It has BEEN WIDELY reported that Ohio’s numbers are good and yes Romney’s guys do not like the republican govenor for that, go figure. So, Jay you just happened to crunch Ohio’s number’s , either you’re poorly informed or duplicious, take your pick, seriously….

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 5th, 2012
11:23 am

0311 – “1) Either …………. (as I heard earlier) the Obama Administration has “cooked the books” on these stats (Chicago style).”

Yes, I’m sure that’s exactly what happened. Obama woke up yesterday, made a call to the DOL and the BLS and instructed them to “cook the books”.

Brosephus™

October 5th, 2012
11:23 am

2) Or ………….. some in the business world are sensing that Obama will be defeated and have decided to RISK an early start on their business investments.

I was wondering how long it would take for that thread to emerge from the spin machine.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:24 am

“Guess the BLS statistics can’t report how much of these new jobs are due to businesses that had been sitting on all that cash in the belief that holding the economy back would mean Obama would be a one-termer, and deciding that Romney was ‘dead in the water’ so they might as well get on with business.”

that would be one heckuva excel cell

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:24 am

the guy in the back said, “yeah, thank god I had my brakes on the whole way of we would have slid all the way back down”

That is a funny line, I don’t care what your politics are.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:24 am

“As for Jack Welch :let’s see who has numbers experience, business experience, hmmm, Jay-seriously, let’s get serious….”

well, if anyone would know about cooking the books, he would

Mark in mid-town

October 5th, 2012
11:25 am

Jay Bookman writes: “We now have the lowest unemployment rate in 44 months”
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Technically we might. But in reality we don’t. When adjusting for the same work-force participation rate as 44 months ago, the current unemployment rate is really still in the 11% range. Anyway, we do not have a good job market. If we didn’t we’d see GDP growing at far greater rate that’s it’s been. At best we’re treading water relative to population growth.

Appleseed

October 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Butch I think I would like to live in N Ga with high unemployment,than NY NY with 4%.

Doggone/GA

October 5th, 2012
11:26 am

“Upon the finish of the show Indiana sighs a deep bore breath takes his German Lugar out and shoots the surprise showman between the eyes”

Wrong. Watch it again. He shoots the sword out of his hand.

Get Real

October 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Sounds good Jay, but what is the real jobless rate? 15-17%

Mary Elizabeth

October 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Two Parties, I must go, but I urge you to think very carefully about which candidate has placed more emphasis on helping middle and working class citizens.

Even though Obama gave a poor performance in the debates, his closing statement of care and concern for middle/working class people rang true with authenticity, just as Romney’s concern for average people – voiced in the debate – did not resonate with much passion. However, Romney’s 47% remark caught earlier on tape, resonated with much passion against those who feel “entitled.” Moreover, Romney’s and Ryan’s Voucher Medicare Plan for the elderly speaks loudly of his “compassion” for future 80 year olds who would have to negotiate with profit-based insurance companies -when all they have to fall back onto in their old age are vouchers.

“Every man and woman for him/herself.” Government has no role in medical care or even in education, according to the perceptions of those who see the president more as a business CEO rather than as a public servant to the people. Compare Romney and Obama in their visions with those of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and FDR who perceived of themselves as servants to the people and the people’s best interests, while they also sustained the underlying foundation of this nation that “all are created equal.”

Lord Help Us

October 5th, 2012
11:26 am

‘either you’re poorly informed or duplicious, ‘

I say ‘duplicious…’ Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

Regnad Kcin

October 5th, 2012
11:27 am

Alex – ” So, Jay you just happened to crunch Ohio’s number’s , either you’re poorly informed or duplicious, take your pick, seriously….”

Yeah, I believe you, Alex, because of all thay PROOF you’ve offered: “It has BEEN WIDELY reported”

That’s all you’ve got, right? What an idjit.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 5th, 2012
11:27 am

Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)

October 5th, 2012
11:16 am
plus dad of course makes 48

and they all vote!?
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all but 10 at the moment….

DownInAlbany

October 5th, 2012
11:28 am

Do the math! 456,000 (number needed to drop unemployment numbers by .03%) minus 200,000 (includes the previously “uncounted” numbers from previous months) = 256,000 (I was rounding with my “250,000″ number). Yes, I stick to my irrational, stupid (you think I am, I think you are, we’re even, ok?) assumption of “manipulation.” Offer a better explanation! Is that too much to ask?

Verbal Kint

October 5th, 2012
11:28 am

“So far this year, overall job growth has averaged 143,000 a month, compared with 153,000 in 2011.”

If this recovery is going so well, shouldn’t that number be up instead of down compared to 2011?

Anyone care to explain?

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 5th, 2012
11:29 am

Get Real – “Sounds good Jay, but what is the real jobless rate? 15-17%.

Okay, so we add an additional 10% to the UE number. Were you this upset under the Bush Adminstration when the “real” jobless rate was 15-16%, not the 5-6% that Bush claimed?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 5th, 2012
11:29 am

USinUK

To you have a recipe for cooked books?

Do we poach or saute?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:30 am

“duplicious”

duplicious? like deliciously duplicitous?

Lord Help Us

October 5th, 2012
11:30 am

‘Do we poach or saute?’

Batter that mother up and deep fry ‘em!!

They BOTH suck

October 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Scout

You would have put Rod Serling out of work. You could have come up with some real doozies had you been the writer and producer of the “Twilight Zone”.

I could just imagine the “conspiracies” you would have to tell if it was an in person conversation as opposed to the blog.

Everything is not a “conspiracy” if it doesn’t fit your view point. That fact might stink a little, but it is the truth.

Heck could probably revamp that show “Outer Limits” as well.

Jordan77

October 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Jay,

As you have said many times, we need to raise revenue and slash spending. The Romney “diet” er plan is “Eat all the ice cream and pizza you want and still lose weight”. I am big common sense type guy and this is an insult to anyone with a brain. He is a liar period!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Granny – I believe they are braised … cooked low and slow in bollocks and poppycock

Brosephus™

October 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Since everything in the last 4 years was Bush’s fault, should it not be fair to say, the unemployment rate drop is Bush’s achievement?

Yeah, and had he actually done something to encourage DOMESTIC job growth, Bush probably could have had unemployment below 6% by now.

Regnad Kcin

October 5th, 2012
11:31 am

“Batter that mother up and deep fry ‘em!!”

UMMMMMM! Wrapped in bacon!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:32 am

“Anyone care to explain?”

because, in 2011, you had the census effect

any other questions, numpty?

Lord Help Us

October 5th, 2012
11:32 am

‘UMMMMMM! Wrapped in bacon!’

Gravy and mashed taters too?

TaxPayer

October 5th, 2012
11:32 am

Cons and their conspiracy theories. :lol: :lol: How convenient… that they suddenly have conspiracy theories! :lol: :lol:

They BOTH suck

October 5th, 2012
11:32 am

Scout

Jokes aside, could you explain how your opinions on the employment numbers coincide with “Supply & Demand”?

You do believe in “supply and demand”, right?

TBone

October 5th, 2012
11:33 am

Since this administrative regime came into power, I can’t recall a time when I thought they could tell the truth about anything and now we are to believe this artificial number for unemployment. This is simply an act of desparation by the regime to stay in the lap of tax payer provided luxury. They make us sick.

They BOTH suck

October 5th, 2012
11:34 am

might sting…………….. but probably stink as well

hahahahah

:-)

My bad

Get Real

October 5th, 2012
11:34 am

Butch….the number of people that have dropped out of the job market over the last 4 years is unprecedented…..you can go back way before Bush and the numbers are no where close to what they are now….I try to live in the present not the past….

Brosephus™

October 5th, 2012
11:35 am

If this recovery is going so well, shouldn’t that number be up instead of down compared to 2011?

Nope. In 2011, there was still a wee bit of stimulus money being infused into the market. This year, it’s all private sector job creation, and we see how well the private sector creates jobs when left to do it on their own, don’t we?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
11:36 am

Paul — “Dear author, Do you think we’re all stupid? To change the employment rate by that many basis points, we’d have to create nearly 800,000 jobs in one month. We created 114,000. S T U P I D. You all are stupid.”

You need to bear in mind that the several different numbers that go into the calculation *aren’t* static, and so you can’t necessarily draw meaningful conclusions about *other* figures just from one raw number.

Many of our own regulars will point to the unemployment rate under Bush and crow ’see, unemployment was LOW under Bush’ and will blissfully ignore the fact that the floor fell out from under the labor force — so as total employment fell, so did the size of the labor force — which meant that the fact tnat more and more Americans were out of work was masked by a misleading unemployment rate. It’s a simple statistical error, but it still gets repeated here even now.

“Look, I’m an independent, but you all shouldn’t allow your liberal views to allow you to be S T U P I D. Sheep – all of you.”

FWIW, you’d make your case more effectively by showing your math. Crowds don’t tend to respond well to the ‘eff you’ exhortation.

Soldier Mom

October 5th, 2012
11:36 am

To all of you who want to downplay the unemployment numbers getting better, look at it like a huge wound. This country was wounded by the previous administration. We were bleeding jobs before Obama took office, profusely bleeding. Now, you can’t take a magic wand and all of a sudden the bleeding stops. You have to get the bleeding to slow down, eventually it stops, and healing begins. This country has slowed down the bleeding, drastically. We still have more to do, but we are on the right course. Why can’t you be thrilled people are finding jobs again? Is it because it doesn’t fit into your argument? People are finding jobs and things are getting better – it is Friday –FNM is on the way – be happy! Geez, you sound like grumpy ole republicans! 

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 5th, 2012
11:37 am

getalife – If you do not mind saying, what is your story. You are on these blogs so much, are you retired (like me) or what?

Brosephus™

October 5th, 2012
11:37 am

If this recovery is going so well, shouldn’t that number be up instead of down compared to 2011?

Consider the fact that, thanks to the GOP’s insistence on cutting the budget, there were less federal funds to dole out to those private sector companies that leech off taxpayers in order to “create” jobs too. Chalk it up to the oncoming austerity that many of y’all seem to think will cure everything.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
11:37 am

You guys are hilarious: “If you adjust for the angle of the dangle minus the cosine of the first derivative …”

I got an idea: Let’s use the very same basic unemployment rate that we’ve used for 50 or 60 years if not longer, the rate that has served as the unchallenged gold standard of such statistics for generations, right up until the moment that it began telling you something that you do not want to hear.

We’ve gone from the birthers to the jobbers.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
11:38 am

oh, and sheets.

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
11:39 am

I can’t recall a time when I thought they could tell the truth about anything and now we are to believe this artificial number for unemployment.

You arbitrarily decided they’re lying about everything so it’s no surprise they’re lying now.

The only surprise will be who wins the race in your brain…Bitter or Paranoid.

curious

October 5th, 2012
11:39 am

Redneck has it right.

Tax cuts for the rich; just think of the jobs created in the golf tee manufacturing industry.

Bill Orvis White

October 5th, 2012
11:42 am

Again, you naive liberals entirely miss the point. Let’s go back to the Bubba Clinton days when you libs rejoiced about Bubba’s supposed success. Two things happened. Bubba’s friend Bawney Fwank started a bogus housing program aimed getting deadbeats into houses. So, a bunch of lame jobs were created to hand out these bogus loans. Then, the dot-com sector exploded with new jobs that neither Bubba nor alGore created. Still, those two bozos claimed credit for those jobs. OK? Then a zillion McJobs were created thus inflated Bubba’s “success.” These are facts, folks. What happened? Well, Bubba created a recession and handed it over to the honorable Pres. Bush who tried to salvage Bubba’s mess by instituting two rightful tax cut$. Here’s where the problem comes: Bubba’s recession took down the dotcom sector known as DotBomb by that point and Bawney’s Bogus Adventure blew up on Pres. Bush’s watch. Pres. Bush tried to stop Bawney, but Bawney and Chris Dodd bullied the president while He rightfully had to engage in the rightful War on Terror. For you dumb naive secular McFly progressives out there: The rightful War on Terror was and still is, a war that lasts forever against our enemies known as jihadists. Do you fools know what jihad is all about? Jihad exists everywhere! That is why Pres. Bush rightfully invested in fighting jihadism because it threatens all of us! Get it? Good. Now, Pres. Bush created new job$ under tough circumstances created by Bubba Clinton, alGore, Bawney Fwank, Chris Dodd and many liberal useful idiots. It is now a known fact that Pres. Bush left the Oval Office in good condition. Then in January 2009, a Marxist installed-”president” started to pack on $16 trillion dollar$ in new ObamaDebt which is putting the once-free nation’s health care needs and bogus social programs on the ObamaCreditCard owned by Red China, thank you very much. Red China laughs at us while we pack on the debt, lose job$, let our public screwels crumble, throw on more regulation and taxe$. So, when a bogus job$ report comes out like this, YOU HAVE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES! HERE’S THE ANSWER TO LIBRUL JAY’S BOGUS HEADLINE: FOLKS STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK. EMPLOYERS ARE NOT HIRING BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO PAY IN TAXE$ NOR KNOW THE AMOUNT OF REGULATORY PRESSURE THRUST UPON THEM BY THIS BOGUS PRESIDENT! NOW YOU KNOW THE ANSWER AND THAT IS WHY EVEN YOU LIBRULS NEED TO VOTE FOR COMMON SENSE TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC. VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY NOW AND OFTEN. LET’S END THIS TRAGIC NIGHTMARE AND GET TO WORK AT CLEANING UP OUR ONCE-FREE NATION! AMEN, BILL

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 5th, 2012
11:44 am

I guess what I’ve grown to understand is that libs will not believe cons, even if their hand is on a stack of bibles or vice-versa with the libs and cons and the bible. Probably does not really matter who wins, because if the Senate or House is controlled by the other party, I will be pleasantly surprised if anything gets passed. This talk by both candidates that they will reach out and work with the other party is pure BS! It aint happening!

Ray Tardinski

October 5th, 2012
11:46 am

Odumbo: “I gave middle class mericans $3600 in tax relief, you know so they could uh, ug buy a new car”.

Meidan income down over $4K, healthcare costs up over $2.5K and the Odumber touts his tax relief. This folks is the “arithmetic” skills of our president, he wants you to buy a car when you are net down on income. Now libs celebrate a 7.8 percent number that means nothing. Even if the number weren’t severely skewed with low paying part time jobs, real job creation is mediocre at best. Of course that is the lib way – celebrate mediocrity – both financial and mental! You won’t dup the majority of Americans in November.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 5th, 2012
11:48 am

Jay@11:37 – Not nice my man, think I hear your Occupy buddies calling you!

Mark in mid-town

October 5th, 2012
11:52 am

Just heard a interesting theory on how he unemployment rate dropped a bizarre 3/10 % point in one month even thougth much of the other available econmic data does not support there being such a drop due to such data showing an actual decrease in much economic activity. The unemployment rate is bsed on a survey of the public. It relies on people telling the truth. What if some unemployed Democrats are now lying to the polsters taking the survey? I’m being told that there aren’t too many serious people who belieive the job market has improved at all te past month, much less a whopping 3/10 % point’s drop worth. Sosomethting else is at play that is manipulating the number.

Ray Tardinski

October 5th, 2012
11:54 am

One of my colleagues just showed me an article where someone actually counted the number of times out idiot in Chief said “uh” in the debate. 113 times, over 1.2 times per minute and he didn’t even talk half the time. It’s called Toastmasters – give it uh, a uh try, uh you idiot.

Two Parties, One Con

October 5th, 2012
11:58 am

Mary Elizabeth: “I must go, but I urge you to think very carefully about which candidate has placed more emphasis ”

I think you’re missing my point. I’m not talking about a comparison between these two candidates, which is sort of like comparing the Crips and Bloods. I’m not interested in who has shown “more emphasis” between the two of them. If they represent our only choices, then we are truly cooked indeed.

paulo977

October 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

Brosephus…..” Up until the 80’s, we had the means to manufacture our way out of a recession.”
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What happened in the 80’s to reverse such a good trend ……? !!!!!! Shhhh

paulo977

October 5th, 2012
12:03 pm

Mark in mid-town

October 5th, 2012
11:52 am !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
_______________________________
Merlin …booooooooo

DownInAlbany

October 5th, 2012
12:35 pm

“birthers” and “jobbers” Good job, Jay! You continue to call names instead of addressing the issue. No wonder your followers do the same! Call me back when you find the 250,000! haha Talk about HI-larious! Go wash your face, you have a kool-aid mustache!

jill

October 5th, 2012
12:39 pm

really do people really believe Barrack Obama? He cut unemployment by cutting off tiers of emergency unemployment not by getting people jobs. It is artificial but the people voting for him are stupid.

obama unbeliever

October 5th, 2012
1:29 pm

The 1001 lies of the obama administration. Maybe he can tell us all again that islam is a religion of peace. It’s too bad there aren’t any disinterested third parties to validate these lies about unemployment or to verify the results of presidential elections. All I can say, is that I find the homeless population to be at an all time high. I’ve never seen so many homeless people in my life.

GT

October 5th, 2012
1:32 pm

Jill you believe voting for Romney’s lies are smart? Nobody is saying Romney won the debate on substance they are talking style points, and how Obama let Romney get away with lying when it was so obvious. Since Romney looks good lying which make you in your world look smart, you are voting for this liar. Interesting…

obama unbeliever

October 5th, 2012
1:42 pm

Let’s the obama regime controls the gathering of the statistics and the interpretation of the statistics so I’m supposed to believe them? Unemployment figures were ALREADY a lie because they don’t count those who are unemployed and not receiving unemployment. I’d imagine such a large increase in the amount of people employed would also affect the GDP, because the economy would only be producing more goods and services if more people were gainfully employed.

GT

October 5th, 2012
1:45 pm

obama unbeliever you are the carrier of lies. Just because you may believe a lie doesn’t give you a license to abuse the truth.

Now let me get this straight you think of the two candidates that Obama is the least locked in to help the homeless. You think people in charge of unemployment numbers produced by our government are liars and pollsters who have been conducting polls for decades are now part of the conspiracy your weak mind is surmising. And we wonder how a liar like Romney gets any traction in a country that use to be above average IQed. Why Obama Unbeliever you have solved our mystery, you have shown us how lies now trump the truth in national debates, we are a people of fools.

Mary Elizabeth

October 5th, 2012
1:51 pm

Two Parties, You write: “If they (Obama and Romney) represent our only choices, then we are truly cooked indeed.”

I disagree with you. In my perception, Obama has an elevated vision for our nation, and for the world which is rare. He had a “down” night he debated Romney. However, we must all recall when he was defending Obamacare in a room full of Republican legislatiors who were essentially against Obamacare. He won that particular “debate” which was about 20 to 25 to 1 – the 1 being Obama, and the 20 to 25 being the Republican legislators. How quickly the public forgets Obama’s innate skills of thinking on his feet, when he is well prepared.

However, even if Obama turns out not to be the excellent debater that Romney is, Obama’s vision remains exceptional, in my opinion – and his vision is exceptional not only in comparison with Romney’s, but in comparison with the vision of most leaders. One needs to have a keen sense of history, as well as one’s place within history’s unfolding as did MLK, Washington and Lincoln – which includes awareness of Providence’s hand in the unfolding of history, using humans to that end – to have the kind of vision that they had, and that Obama has. That quality, and that vision, are rare.

louisiana78611

October 5th, 2012
2:00 pm

The new employment figures released today just can’t be true! People I personally know, and I, were not counted for one! Our unemployment stopped many months ago. I know I will not get any benefits… BUT!… I should be counted If I reapply for unemployment benefits. I want anyone who really cares about this to let their friends know, who are still unemployed with out benefits, to reapply so they will be counted. I believe there are enough of us to cripple the system once this gets going. This is one effort that truly needs to go VIRAL all over the USA. please help spread this effort :(

Reality

October 5th, 2012
2:14 pm

Okay guys. I am asking that you think on this a minute. Try to first open your mind and ignore any previous notions that you might have (yes, this is hard to do)….

The voters of Georgia have already made up their mind. Georgia is solidly behind Romney. Not by a little, but by a lot.

Most of the rest of the Country (check out the map of electoral college voters) are not fond of Romney. Some states really don’t like him at all. Some of these States are “wealthy” States such as Connecticut and California. Some of these States have the most prestigious universities in them such as Massachusetts and New York.

Why is it that the Georgia voters have such a disconnect with these other States? Why is it that Georgia’s current claim to fame is “Honey Boo Boo Child” and favor Romney?

Think on it…..

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
2:39 pm

M. Mid-Town — “What if some unemployed Democrats are now lying to the polsters taking the survey?”

Sir, I believe you’ll find the tinfoil on Aisle 3.

GT

October 5th, 2012
2:56 pm

Reality I ask that question every time I come to this blog. If the state of Georgia could get pass itself it would have half its problems licked. It is very similar to the curse that has been unleashed on the country by the tea party. They are blocking legislation undermining the credit rating of this country, in some blind zombie match to destruction and then gaming us on not acknowledging their input on these matters.

The state of Georgia uneducated, eaten up with poverty and crime, obviously over their heads for governing, will not take a different course they seem to like the dead end street they travel. It is like someone seeing all around them people dying of cancer but their preacher telling them they are immune from it so they continue to smoke and die never connecting one with the other. You would think one year one day these people would look around and say this is not working.

Is it a wonder Obama looked like he had seen a ghost Wed. I don’t think Romney could have shocked him more if he had come out in drag and make up. And if he had the south would have ignored it and got behind him. Lies don’t bother these people and half the time they don’t even know the lies are lies. Romney has finished the primary and now is a liberal, none of that bothers the south. They are still smelling the barbeque of the primaries and believing they have won something.

Duper

October 5th, 2012
2:59 pm

This is the cincher for little Barry! The election is a done deal!!OSAMA IS DEAD & GMs ALIVE!!! The numbers have been manipulated
& now the rate is under 8% and this is good news. Didn’t see that one coming, NOT This is so predictable that the bozos in the media are stooping so low to lick Barry’s butt. And to think only 5 years ago, when unemployment was 5%, gas under $2/gallon these same apparatchiks wanted to lambast the prez simply because he had an “R” next to his name on ballot.

Adam

October 5th, 2012
3:27 pm

DownInAlbany: There is no debate on the issue you are speaking about. The BLS numbers are calculated the same as they always have been. The fact that all you want to do is act hurt that you’re being called names shows you truly have nothing of substance to contribute. Break out of that and maybe you won’t be called names, since you’re so hurt by that.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

October 5th, 2012
4:11 pm

Come on, Jay, this sham has been preordained since early this year. All they did was look at the calendar and ask themselves, “When will president kardashian need the most help?” And the easy answer was, “Right after the first debate.” You might as well say unemployment is at 1.5%. We all know the actual number, if you do not manipulate the denominator, is somewhere north of 12%. For minority teens, its around 50%, with similar horrendous numbers for other groups emperor nero was supposed to help. Please cease insulting our intelligence.

Donovan

October 5th, 2012
4:33 pm

After listening to the news today I am convince that these numbers are totally bogus and cooked. I resent the fact that this administration is so corrupt and full of reprehensible people. This campaign crap is out of the pages of Venezuela and Russia. Shame on you and screw the horse that all of you rode in on.

Is it any coincidence that the BLS is comprised of large Obama campaign donors? This is the way that things get done in corrupt Chicagoland. It’s in your face and so obvious that the Democrat Party has to stoop to this low class method of trying to steal the election any way they can.

This nation deserves better and we will remember on Nov. 6.

DownInAlbany

October 5th, 2012
4:45 pm

Adam, I know it’s late and you probably won’t see this, but, if you think my feelings are hurt, think again. My point is, “you people” (as Jay called me earlier) deflect, defend and then name-call. That’s basically all ‘ya got. And, you want to preach to me about “substance?” OoooooKkkkkk. It doesn’t hurt my feelings or make me angry. I’ve been asking the same question all day and you nor anyone else has a viable answer to…there are 250,000 “jobs” unaccounted for. What happened to them. The math still doesn’t work. Then answer the dadgum question. You expect competent people to believe this administration after the lies told about Libya and the death of our ambassador? Yeah, sure, I’ll gladly be a lemming…

T. Gaines

October 5th, 2012
5:58 pm

Up is down.

This week we’ve received snapshots of September job creation from payroll companies ADP and Intuit. ADP reported that the domestic economy added 162,000 jobs in September, which was slower than the 189,000 hired in August. By the way, that 189,000 figure was revised down from ADP’s initial estimate of 201,000.

By comparison, Intuit’s Small Business Index reading for September found only 40,000 jobs were created during the month, down from 50,000 in August. As with the ADP data, Intuit’s findings reinforce the notion of slower job creation in September.

Other readings on September job creation in the form of the Chicago Purchasing Mangers Index, the Empire Manufacturing Index, the Dallas Manufacturing Index, the Richmond ManufacturingIndex and the Institute for Supply Management’s Non-Manufacturing Survey results all turned in weak or slower job creation readings for the month.

Parsing the BLS report on the manufacturing front, September saw manufacturing employment edge down in September by 16,000. Taking a longer term perspective shows that manufacturing employment has been unchanged since April.

Changing perspectives from job creation to layoffs, the Challenger Gray Job Cuts Report found US-based employers announced plans to cut more jobs in September than in August. Employers have now announced 386,001 planned job cuts in 2012, marking one of the highest number of job cuts in the first nine months of the year since 1997.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/10/05/sizing-up-the-september-employment-report/

MITTENS

October 5th, 2012
6:15 pm

DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN….DAMN DAMN DAMN

MITTENS

October 5th, 2012
6:17 pm

WHY are “patriotic” republicansv mad that unemployment is going down?

wow

October 5th, 2012
6:18 pm

REPUBS ARE HAVING a hissy fit right now

wow

October 5th, 2012
6:19 pm

rich repubs are mad that folks are that AMERICANS are finding work…how heartless

i use to be a BIRTHER now i'm a JOBBER

October 5th, 2012
6:23 pm

my redneck imbred IQ says these job numbers are a lie…because they don’t say what i want them 2 say

MIKE

October 6th, 2012
8:58 am

AND YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS WHY THERE WERE NEW JOBS CREATED?

Stew Day

October 6th, 2012
10:45 am

If we are celebrating this report we are a sad nation who deserves this fool running it.

liberalefty

October 7th, 2012
1:13 am

stew day

another sad birther mad that the economy is getting better.