Romney’s ‘takeback’ of ‘47 percent’ diatribe unconvincing

Before we move on, I think it’s important to focus directly on Mitt Romney’s statement on Fox News last night in which he belatedly tried to retract his comments about the “47 percent.”

This is what he told Fox:

“Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you’re gonna say something that doesn’t come out right. In this case I said something that’s just completely wrong.”

Listening to Romney, you might be led to believe that his original “47 percent” comments were just a garbled misstatement taken out of context, like his own “I’m not concerned about the very poor” or Barack Obama’s “You didn’t build that.” But listen again to the original statement in the video above. Or, if you prefer, you can read it here:

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn’t connect. And he’ll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that’s what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

That is not a statement ripped out of context. It is not Romney saying one thing but meaning another. In those remarks, Romney makes a sustained, passionate and seemingly heartfelt argument about what he truly believes. He is damn clear about it

But don’t take my word for it. Take Romney’s word for it. On the night that video was released, Romney appeared at a hastily called press conference. He was asked explicitly whether he was backing away from the statements, and he made it quite clear that he was not. While his remarks were “not elegantly stated,” he said, he doubled down on the basic message.

“It’s a message which I’m going to carry and continue to carry which is, look, the president’s approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because frankly my discussion about lowering taxes isn’t as attractive to them so I’m not likely to atrract them into my campaign.”

(As an aside, note Romney’s mention about his support for lowering taxes, a position that he explicitly denied in Wednesday’s debate in Denver.)

In the days that followed, Romney continued to defend his remarks and continued to press that argument. So did Paul Ryan, his running mate. That is what they truly believe; the passionate, dismissive statements about the 47 percent that Romney made to a roomful of people contributing $50,000 each to his campaign reflect his true value system.

His attempt to come out more than two weeks later and try to claim that his statements were “just completely wrong” and “didn’t come out right” is ludicrous and devoid of credibility.

Believe him at your peril.

– Jay Bookman

765 comments Add your comment

Doggone/GA

October 5th, 2012
11:29 am

“On the night that video was released, Romney appeared that night at a hastily called press conference”

And it’s EXTREMELY interesing to listen to him speak at that press conference and then contrast it with the smooth, unhesitating statement he made on that video.

Loretta Paraguassu

October 5th, 2012
11:33 am

Thank you, Jay. It should be obvious, but apparently it isn’t.

M

October 5th, 2012
11:33 am

His debate performance, while admittedly stronger than Obama’s on face value, is nothing more than evidence that his campaign both knows and relies on the fact that there are a substantial number of people who don’t care a bit that he lies.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:34 am

dammit, you caught me saying what I actually MEANT … we can’t have that!!

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 5th, 2012
11:36 am

Mitt Romney campaign surrogate Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) admitted that the GOP presidential candidates was changing his positions and moving towards the middle in order to win over voters, during an appearance on CNN’s Starting Point on Friday morning. Gingrey’s comments, reminiscent of Romney advisor Eric Fehrnstrom’s claim that Romney would “Etch-A-Sketch” his positions after the GOP primary, came in response to the candidate’s recent claim that his 47% remarks were “completely wrong.”

Mitt: What do I need to SAY in order to win? I have got my own house, my own plane….. I don’t need facts, integrity or honesty…. please…please…tell me what to SAY.

southpaw

October 5th, 2012
11:39 am

“Listening to Romney, you might be led to believe that his original “47 percent” comments were just a garbled misstatement taken out of context, like his own “I’m not concerned about the very poor” or Barack Obama’s “You didn’t build that.””

Sorry, Jay, that isn’t what “I said something that’s just completely wrong.” sounds like. Romney finally realized he made a mistake, and he’s (gasp) trying to learn from it and repair the damage from it. (Turn on irony meter) How dare he try to do such things! (Turn off irony meter) It sounds a good bit like “Shovel-ready was not as … uh .. shovel-ready as we expected.”

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:39 am

Secretly recorded video of OBAMA practicing for debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpufoZeLLU&feature=player_embedded

Oscar

October 5th, 2012
11:39 am

In the debate, Romney loudly made a lot of unsubstantuated statements which turned out to be untrue. It’s easy to do that in a debate and look convincing. But, in the aftermath, when people realize he was not telling the truth, those tactics will work against him.

He wants to go back to pre-existing conditions in health insurance, he wants to increase military spending when we need to be reducing the budget, he is against cutting waste in medicare, he is against raising taxes on the top one per cent. He is for cutting deductions which the middle classs depend on. All bad ideas.

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
11:42 am

Todd Rundgren made a not for the faint of heart album in 2004 that was spot on perfect for George (W)orst Ever Bush and the deadly, incompetent and immoral Republicans.

Not surprisingly it is also apropos for Mitt 6.4 and his soon to be voters…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQfmCjmnZuQ

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
11:42 am

So he’s flip-flopping from his press conference statements where he clarified his previous statements?

When can we expect his next clarification? Does Vegas have odds on where he’ll finally land?

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:43 am

“Just took a look out of curiosity: In Ohio, the jobless rate has fallen from 10.6 to 7.2 percent in the last three years.” Bookman

Ohio, did someone tout Ohio?

Ohio poll: Romney leads 51-48 among those certain to vote

The first post-presidential debate poll in critical Ohio shows that Mitt Romney blunted President Obama’s momentum with his winning performance and is now leading the president among Ohioans who say that they are “certain” to vote.

Overall, the race is deadlocked with Obama over Romney 50 percent to 49 percent, according to the poll taken Thursday night.

But among the stunning 92 percent of all voters in the state who say that they are certain to go to the polls on Election Day, Romney leads 51 percent to 48 percent. And among the 83 percent who have already made up their minds how they will vote, Romney is ahead 52 percent to 48 percent.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-poll-romney-leads-51-48-among-those-certain-to-
vote/article/2509947#.UG7vQU3A-gR

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
11:44 am

I don’t believe you, Mr. Romney.

I appreciate that you’re willing to apologize, but I don’t believe you’re being sincere, and I think the only reason you’re apologizing is because you know the comments are hurting you and ruining your election chances.

You and your campaign are Bain damaged, Mr. Romney.

TaxPayer

October 5th, 2012
11:45 am

Awww, come on, Jay! Mitt just made a southern gaffe. One with a distinctive drawl. That’s why it went on and on and on like it did. He was just talking the talk to a room full of southern wealth. Speaking their language. The language of slow and drawn out, for emphasis. And when you have a gaffe while speaking to a room full of southern wealth, it naturally comes out as appearing a bit winded to a northerner. :lol:

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 5th, 2012
11:46 am

I used to think obama supporters were ridiculous.
.
sheesh

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:46 am

Romney’s ‘takeback’ of ‘47 percent’ diatribe unconvincing

Unconvincing as in the BLS unemployment BS?

Jm

October 5th, 2012
11:47 am

“That is what they truly believe; the passionate, dismissive statements about the 47 percent that Romney made to a roomful of people contributing $50,000 each to his campaign reflect his true value system”

THIS from the guy who says mitt is a flip flopper and can’t decide what he means. Well now Jay has seen the light an knows EXACTLY what Romney believes.

What a hack job.

Jay, where did you get your tarot card license?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:47 am

yes. ahem, we saw your note about the CERTAIN voters downstairs. funny how you ignore the LIKELY voters – heck, even Rasmussen (god love ‘em) have it as a statistical tie

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
11:48 am

Ahem — “Ohio poll: Romney leads 51-48 among those certain to vote”

Absolutely meaningless. Nobody — including Rasmussen — can know what turnout will be on Election Day. However, that doesn’t stop Rasmussen from claiming to know or from using that number to fudge his polling results.

If Rasmussen can actually tell us what Election Day turnout will be, then why doesn’t he just look another 24 hours into the future and tell us who’s going to win the election? :roll:

Soldier Mom

October 5th, 2012
11:48 am

Just exactly WHO is Mitt Romney? I have never seen somebody change their stance on everything he believes in. What exactly is his stand?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:49 am

shorter Jm:

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! pay attention to MEEEEEEEEEEEEE Jay!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZHe3GYQp_8

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
11:50 am

US in UK — “MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!”

Oh, I gettit.

That;s where that high-pitched Republican SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE noise comes from. :D

Regnad Kcin

October 5th, 2012
11:50 am

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:43 am
“Just took a look out of curiosity: In Ohio, the jobless rate has fallen from 10.6 to 7.2 percent in the last three years.” Bookman

Ohio, did someone tout Ohio
=================

Translation: “Look over there, quick! No, no, over there! Aw, you missed it. Now, we were talking about how Romney’s winning, right?”

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
11:50 am

…who don’t care a bit that he lies.

For gawdssakes look no further than our Rush-led parrot, Republican bloggers here for proof.

Hell, they have their own made up language these days! Republican ebonics, if you will.

Talk about having massive veracity problems!

This severely faux conservative candidate is PERFECT for them.

And when their lies are exposed here on a daily basis they don’t even have the basic adult wherewithal to admit them and make retractions.

These Masters of Misinformation just shamelessly move onto the next made up bit of nonsense and pretend that their lies are truth.

And in that language, Christianity is not a religion…

stands for decibels

October 5th, 2012
11:50 am

Unconvincing as in the BLS unemployment BS?

I don’t wanna grow up,
I’m a Conspiracies R Us Kid
They’ve got the best for so much less
you’ll really flip your lid

.

.

(sing along, won’t we?)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:52 am

“That;s where that high-pitched Republican SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE noise comes from”

yes. only whinier.

alex

October 5th, 2012
11:52 am

I’ve got to get to work to cover for the 47%…..

Seriously, jay we are going to put you and rush in a small room,lights out , each armed with dull knives, the winner gets to whine for 4 more weeks….

Jay

October 5th, 2012
11:52 am

Hater, that’s a damn silly statement.

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
11:52 am

yes. ahem, we saw your note about the CERTAIN voters downstairs.

Ahem just can’t contain himself over the prospect of Romney only losing by 314-224 electoral votes instead of 332-206.

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
11:53 am

Abomb. You are desperate.

In all likelihood, the anti-worker party with Romney at the helm has already lost Ohio.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:53 am

“…who don’t care a bit that he lies.

For gawdssakes look no further than our Rush-led parrot, Republican bloggers here for proof.”

heck, I’m old enough to remember the GOP telling us “it WASN’T the sex that was the problem, it was the LIES” …

Jm

October 5th, 2012
11:54 am

Jay Bookman, the seer of seers, Sage of Sages, the prognosticator of prognosticators, Aka Punxsutawney Phil

(see Groundhog Day for reference)

How long will Winter be this year Jay?

Ronald Reagan Parkway

October 5th, 2012
11:54 am

Mr. Bookman, you are becoming more like a tornado that no one saw coming. Keep hitting them hard!!! “FACTS” will prevail!

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
11:55 am

Friday, October 05, 2012
Election 2012: Virginia President

Virginia: Romney 49%, Obama 48%

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Virginia Voters, taken last night, shows Romney earning 49% support to Obama’s 48%. Three percent (3%) remain undecided.

(To see survey question wording, click below.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/virginia/questions/questions_virginia_president_october_4_2012

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
11:55 am

Jm — “How long will Winter be this year Jay?”

Mighty long, if you’re a Republican zillionaire waiting for another tax cut.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 5th, 2012
11:55 am

Birthers and jobbers and percenters — OH MY!

Patrick

October 5th, 2012
11:56 am

I am pretty certain that Romney is living proof of that “infinite universe” theory of physics.

He can be on all sides of all arguments at all times.

They BOTH suck

October 5th, 2012
11:56 am

Jam

It isn’t just Abomb (Mr Unvision himself) but Jm is slightly agitated and starved for attention as well

Pretty damn funny

Jay

October 5th, 2012
11:57 am

In a small room, alone, in the dark, with Limbaugh?

You are one sick puppy, alex…. :>)

Regnad Kcin

October 5th, 2012
11:58 am

Nate Silver has VA @ 79.1% chance for Obama. OH @ 87.5% for Obama. He takes Rasmussen into account…

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
11:58 am

JHM, the beyond filthy rich, money-hiding RINO is going continue to overtax the evil rich by not lowering their taxes!

And these fans of his are not going to raise hell.

Quit punishing the successful, Mr. Romney!

Lower their tax burden so poor women and children can start paying their fair share!!

Jeffrey

October 5th, 2012
11:58 am

I would call Romney a wh*re, but that would be defaming hard working prostitutes everywhere!

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
11:58 am

Ahem — “(To see survey question wording, click below.)”

I did. And I see this:

NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence

I don’t know if you’ve ever done any survey research, but an MOE of +/- 4.5% is *crap,* I don’t even *cite* polls myself unless their MOE is +/- 3.0%.

With an MOE of 4.5, you might as well take an educated guess. It’d be quicker and easier, and give you about the same results.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:59 am

Ahem – you do realize that VA is a red state – the only reason it went blue in 2008 was because of the DC suburbs – and even then, just barely

they have a redder than red governor and state leg – frankly, the fact taht Obama is tied is a good sign!

Brad Steel

October 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

Even Romney and Ryan’s so called “stupid masses” and “moochers” recognize the lack of subtlety in this rhetorical gem. It is straight out of the Ayn Rand cult:

I got mine. F.U!

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:47 am
“yes. ahem, we saw your note about the CERTAIN voters downstairs. funny how you ignore the LIKELY voters – heck, even Rasmussen (god love ‘em) have it as a statistical tie”

xxxxxxxxxxxx

So, if your point is that CERTAIN leaves more to doubt than LIKELY, that seems foolish.

Refugee

October 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

Jay, check out the geography of the 47% in this map of the states. The reddest of red states are the reason Romney (publicly) backtracks:

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2012/09/geography-47/3323/

excerpt:

Three states had more than 40 percent nonpayers — Mississippi (44.5 percent), followed by Georgia (42.5 percent), and Alabama (40.3 percent) — and all three were solidly for McCain in 2008. The remaining top ten were largely in the Sunbelt: Florida (39.0 percent), Arkansas (38.8 percent), South Carolina (38.8 percent), New Mexico (38.7 percent), Idaho (38.6 percent), Texas (38.5 percent), and Utah (38.3 percent). All but two of the top ten — Florida and New Mexico — went for McCain. At least a third of the filers in about half of the states (26) were non-taxpayers.

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

Jm is more confused than a heifer on astroturf…

independent thinker

October 5th, 2012
12:00 pm

This is conclusive evidence this guy is bipolar and has a split personality. We got Mitt the seriously conservative who hates the have nots, embrace every wingnut neo con, praises the Ryan budget, hates the GM bailout and outsourcer of American jobs to make a buck and we have Mitt the seriously moderate who loves socialized medicine, loves bailouts, embraces government regulations and champ[ion of bipartisan compromise whose whole life has been dedicated to job creation and is a propounder of women and minority rights . No telling which one will be in the Oval office -does it really matter if you dislike Obama and love Limbaugh and Hannity?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

“I would call Romney a wh*re, but that would be defaming hard working prostitutes everywhere!”

not to mention, I don’t think he’s going to give the GOP the “happy ending” they’d like in November

:-)

Jay

October 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

I think that would be birthers, skewers and jobbers.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

Gilligan, where are my Oysters Rockefeller?

–Mitt Romney

alex

October 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

Hater, damn silly, and I thought you would have liked it, oh well humor does not prevail,seriously ,(hater-sheesh,thin skinned whiner, can’t stand a comeback-pathetic commentator0 . Rush will meet you at 1600 hrs. go dull your knife…

Jay

October 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

I imagine if you drew Venn diagrams of the three groups, there would be a LOT of overlap.

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

As I noted before, Abomb needs to quit relying on Sabado Gigante to be the game changer for Willard…

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

Jay, any word yet on whether Ryan is going to back off his 30% claims (whatever the % was). It will be interesting to see if Ryan also backs away from Mitt.

Jm

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

Jhm 11:55 :) probably

Jay

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

In fact, if you sub out Donald Trump for Jack Welch, it might approach 100 percent.

willie lynch

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

It’s politics plain and simple. If he didn’t repudiate these comments it would be tantamount to political suicide. The problem still remains that he is having to back off his OWN comments. He wasn’t being inarticulate and it wasn’t something that could have been “stated more “artfully”, he was being truthful. He was being true to his feelings and he felt safe among those he could share these true sentiments with. Now he is not only backing off the comments but he’s showing his true colors as a liar. So now he’s trying to convince the 47% that he really didn’t mean it? He spent two weeks claiming it was just the wording and not the validity of his claims made to his cronies that was the problem.

This guy is so full of s*** he makes a toilet jealous. To anyone with half a brain this apology is about as useful as a bottle of diet poison. I have more respect for someone who at least stands by what they said. Especially if they believe it to be the truth.

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
11:59 am

Your premise is less than convincing.

They BOTH suck

October 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

Did the luster of the Romney win in the debate already wear off?

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
12:03 pm

It is straight out of the Ayn Rand cult:

As perfected by the Union Thug President, Ronald Reagan…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
12:04 pm

yes, ahem – polling a smaller segment of society DOES give you a less likely result.

Road Scholar

October 5th, 2012
12:04 pm

Jamvet: Isn’t Ebonics that African American magazine?

Jm — “How long will Winter be this year Jay?”
Extremely long for you and your fellow repubs when President Obama is reelected!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

ahem – “Your premise is less than convincing.”

ohfercryingoutloud, ahem, whatever you do, don’t let the facts get in your way …

Jm

October 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

Any chance jay will back away from empty suit Obama?

Nosireebob

barking frog

October 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

President Obama is a
political genius but he
has been totally taken
aback when confronted
by a political idiot.

bullwinkle

October 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

Romney can say whatever he wants through his Fox News pr department. He can win all the debates he wants. The truth is that, when he thought no one else was listening, he told a roomful of fatcats that the 47 percent of Americans who don’t make enough to pay income tax by definition do not take ‘personal responsibility’ for their lives. He didn’t stutter or equivocate or qualify. It was clear as a bell and I take him at his word.

JamVet

October 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

So the combat tested Rush is going to stand in for Neil Boortz, alex?

DannyX

October 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

“Did the luster of the Romney win in the debate already wear off?”

No doubt. Must be the Romney hangover.

Jm, why are you so unhinged today?

Regnad Kcin

October 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

Ahem – did they have to “promise” to vote, before Rasmussen would count them? WTH are “certain” voters?

Rasmussen is “unskewed”, and the rest are “skewed”, right?

Sheesh…

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

southpaw – “Romney finally realized he made a mistake, and he’s (gasp) trying to learn from it and repair the damage from it.”

Yes, he realized that by pushing that belief, he would never get elected.

Oscar

October 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

I watched the debate between Obama and Romney. I was struck be the difference in attitudes. I thought Obama was relaxed and made intelligent, reasoned answers. On the other hand, Romney seemed angry and preformed more like a school yard bully. It’s hard to tell how to deal with a bully making a lot of loud statements that are obviously not true. You can try to shout him down, or let him continue, knowing that the people listening will realize the absurdity of what he was saying. There are no fact checkers on the scene to say who is telling the truth. In this case, it seems as if much of the media has taken the position that the one who was the loudest carried the day. I don’t see it that way. Seems to me, the person who has the most reasonable positions carrieds the day.

In the debate, Romney loudly made a lot of unsubstantiated statements which turned out to be untrue. It’s easy to do that in a debate and look convincing. But, in the aftermath, when people realize he was not telling the truth, those tactics will work against him.

He wants to repeal the Health Care Act which will mean going back to pre-existing conditions in health insurance, he wants to increase military spending when we need to be reducing the budget, he was critical of Obama for cutting waste in medicare, he is against raising taxes on the top one per cent. He is for cutting deductions which the middle class depend on. He wants to convert medicare to a voucher system. All bad ideas.

We will see what happens in the two future debates.

Ronald Reagan Parkway

October 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

My grandmother told me a long time ago…a person’s “word” is ALL they have. All Mitt has is “lies” and can not be trusted.

Jm

October 5th, 2012
12:07 pm

Tbs nope

Romney kicked Obama’s butt

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 5th, 2012
12:07 pm

Jay – Be fair my man! If we have forgiven Obama’s statement about ” you did not build that(referring to small business), then we should due the same for Romney’s boo-boo about the “47%” comment? See, apparently libs and cons will never live together peacefully.

Sagegirl

October 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

This is a re-post from yesterday. It’s a little long but quite honest.

Mr. Romney:

I have watched as you campaigned around the country saying that you understand the pain that its citizens are in today. I believe that’s a lie because you’ll never understand. It’s not in your DNA.

My mother retired after working for 25 years making auto tires. She received her small retirement of $285 per month for her hard work and dedication; an amount so small you wouldn’t scoff at it, but it was hers, (she would not have received that if not for belonging to a union). Too young for social security, she went to work as a Walmart greeter, for minimum wage of course, the only thing she could find at her age. When her knees finally gave out she applied for SSI at the age of 62. With combined incomes she received just under $1200 a month. Over the years, due to the increasing cost of medical coverage her retirement has been reduced. She now receives $125 in retirement, thus her total income is just below $1100 a month. Out of that, she pays auto, home, and life insurance, electric, phone, and cable bills, property and car taxes, mail-order prescriptions, buys gas for her car, and hopes nothing breaks because she can’t afford to call a repairman. Groceries are frugal so she applied for EBT assistance. She was told that she makes too much money, but she did qualify for $16 a month due to being over 65. That $16 will buy a gallon of milk and a cheap loaf of bread for the month or put a little meat in her freezer. She gets to choose.

My uncle was in the Korean War. He was the only survivor when his company was attacked. He was somehow overlooked and he watched as all the other men were shot, stabbed, choked, had their throats slit or were bludgeoned to death. He was eventually honorably discharged, but the army never acknowledged his PTSD. He had nightmares for years, breaking out in cold sweats, never forgetting what his friends, the look in their eyes or what they went through as they breathed their last breath. He spent his life suffering with the memory of that day and went to the VA for medical services, as he could not hold down a job. Years later they did acknowledge the PTSD and he received $1700 a month for his service and he found a facility that would take care of him, but that was short lived as was his medical care and he went into a nursing home, all due to his mental illness. At that point, the VA would no longer pay for his care and Medicaid stepped in, but only after he gave any money he had accumulated away. He lived out the remainder of his life in a low grade nursing facility with minimal staff and care, where he died a slow, agonizing death, because no one cared enough to find out what happened to the man back in Korea.

Would you chose to send your sons into a conflict? We know the answer to that.

My sister and her husband are both self-employed. He recently had a heart attack and now has a pre-existing condition. The cost of their insurance premium per month rose from $600 to $1900. They are torn. They don’t know what they can afford… their house note or insurance. Again, someone has to choose.

My neighbor worked for 20 years as a sales rep. He was diagnosed with colon cancer 2 years ago. His insurance through his job paid him a disability of 60% of his pay. Out of that he must pay his insurance premiums. He has gone through his savings, his 401k, and now his employer has the right to let him go since he has been gone for 24 months on medical leave. He can get Cobra, but only if he can afford it. That’s estimated to cost $600 a month. He doesn’t qualify for Medicaid since he has a home and his wife works or Medicare since he is too young. She makes a paltry $30 thousand a year, not enough to cover the Cobra. They can barely pay the bills and are beginning to think that he was worth more dead than alive. If they let the house go, can they make it? He stills has much more to go through as the cancer has spread again. Too many questions, and not any answers.

Listening to my friends and relatives, watching the suffering that they are going through, I’ve come to the conclusion that all this came from the top down. There are too many corporations lining their pockets off the sweat and fear and tears of the everyday person; people who are struggling, literally, to survive. I have zero confidence in you to do anything but continue to take part in your own shenanigans. Even as you wander across the country spreading your lies, you are still a corporate raider. A leopard doesn’t change its spots. Corporations are raiding the American people and laughing at us at the same time and you all think no one notices. You are wrong. Wrong to think that we are stupid or naïve. We see you. And you, Mitt, do not belong anywhere near Pennsylvania Ave.

barking frog

October 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

92.2 % of Americans
are employed

bullwinkle

October 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

The only thing more chilling and revealing about Romney than what he told the fatcats in private is his ability now to look right into a camera and deny that what he said is what he meant.

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
12:09 pm

Drudge links to weaskamerica.com, which apparently has Romney up in Florida.

(I think they were accurate on the Scott Walker recall election, but it seems their server is overwhelmed right now)

Karl Rove

October 5th, 2012
12:09 pm

Bookman – you do not get it. Mitt is allowed to change his view on everything once every news cycle. Keeps you guys and Obummer guessing what his views really are. That way Mitt can never get cornered by the liberal left wing scum media like you or in a debate. Notice how he made Obummer into the liar the other night with my zingers like you can have your house and airplane but not your facts or that one about Mitt’s sons being pathological liars just like Obummer. Made you ignore all those blatant lies and misstatements Mitt was stating.You guys will never know which Mitt you are electing until we get him elected. Does it really matter?

Peter

October 5th, 2012
12:10 pm

The Republican’s don’t care about lies……… here are a few examples.

Deficits don’t matter…… Cost plus contracts…… Mission Accomplished…….

And here in Georgia.they voted for a guy who lied to the state of Georgia about his personal finances…then of course when he was under fire….. he decided to fire the person who was giving him trouble about his lies.

To a Republican lies are a way of life…… example there are Republican’s who still believe the Cheney lie……… Bin Laden was working with Saddam…….

Ron White said it best……. You just can’t fix Stupid.

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
12:10 pm

Your premise is less than convincing.

Mostly because it falls outside the bounds of your reality, where only the “certain” voters will show up.

I suggest we leave Ahem to his security blankie and join him in his celebration of a 314-224 Romney loss. That way everyone can be happy.

Road Scholar

October 5th, 2012
12:10 pm

jm: Who’s bob?

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
12:11 pm

It’s a little long but …

It wasn’t widely read then, and won’t be now. Try to do some editing or something. There just isn’t time.

Zebra

October 5th, 2012
12:11 pm

Theodore White, the presidential historian, said once the American electorate was like concrete. Around Labor Day, it was wet and could still be molded but by October it had hardened.

To our friends on the right, ask yourself this- is there anything Romney or Obama could have said to change your vote? What in the world makes you think the left is any different? The few undecideds left are all idiots. How can anyone not know who they are for at this point?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

Ahem — “I think they were accurate on the Scott Walker recall election”

There’s a difference between being *correct* and being *accurate.* Many people have trouble with that diffference.

That said, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

willie lynch

October 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

barking frog

October 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

Knowledge that surpasses all understanding, it seems. Fascinating!

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

I suggest we leave Ahem …

And just who is “we” if I may ask.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

It would be interesting to go back and see if any of those defending Mitt’s “takeback” today were cheering him on in total agreement with his “47 percent” attack in the initial blogposts on the subject.

Just Saying..

October 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

So, if one believes everything Mitt has said,

100% of voters will be happy.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

“92.2 % of Americans
are employed ”

um. no. that’s not quite how it works

Joe Hussein Mama

October 5th, 2012
12:14 pm

Ahem — “And just who is “we” if I may ask.”

The people on the other side of the Plexiglas barrier, of course. :D

DannyX

October 5th, 2012
12:14 pm

Sybil/Lyan 2012

bullwinkle

October 5th, 2012
12:15 pm

Tom, spare us please. The ‘you didn’t built that’ was a sentence fragment used misleadingly. (He was referring to infrastructure, in case you’ve been in a coma or only watch Fox.) Romney’s statement went on at length, has been quoted in full context and only gets more damning with each retelling. It was no boo-boo. He said what he meant.

Dan

October 5th, 2012
12:15 pm

Wow. He really said that. I like the governor but no way am I voting for that guy.

Ahem

October 5th, 2012
12:15 pm

“It would be interesting to go back …”

My guess is that any analysis done concerning blogposts generally, would tell one that there is an abundance of crow to be eaten by some on all sides of every issue.

Not a scientific conclusion, but just a gut thing.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
12:16 pm

“It would be interesting to go back and see if any of those defending Mitt’s “takeback” today were cheering him on in total agreement with his “47 percent” attack in the initial blogposts on the subject.”

is FOX cheering it?

kayaker 71

October 5th, 2012
12:16 pm

What???? No official thread on these great employment numbers??

NA

October 5th, 2012
12:16 pm

Jay
do you find fault with the words or the numbers in his statement.
are you saying no one fits the words he says or are you just pointing out that 47% is the wrong number??
Also Obama meant it when he said you did not build it……….. He believe no one deserves credit for their accomplishments.
He got that from Frank his communist trainer. It is in his book.

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
12:16 pm

And just who is “we” if I may ask.

Sane people who have even a rudimentary grasp of polling.