Romney said he won’t cut education; Romney lied

UPDATE: In an extension of his attempt at re-invention, Mitt Romney is now proclaiming his “47 percent” comments as “just completely wrong.” That is a 180-degree reversal of his position on the night that infamous videotape was revealed, in which Romney said in a press conference that the statement was “not elegantly stated” but essentially correct.

In effect, Romney is acknowledging that a conservative Republican — conservative by today’s definition — cannot be elected president because the American people reject that mindset and the policies that go with it, so he is ditching that persona and once again attempting to reinvent himself on the fly.

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In Wednesday’s “Debacle in Denver,” I was struck by one telling exchange between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney regarding education. It began with this statement from Obama:

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“So when Governor Romney indicates that he wants to cut taxes and potentially benefit folks like me and him, and to pay for it, we’re having to initiate significant cuts in federal support for education, that makes a difference.

You know, his running mate, Congressman Ryan, put forward a budget that reflects many of the principles that Governor Romney’s talked about. And it wasn’t very detailed. This seems to be a trend. But — but what it did do is to — if you extrapolated how much money we’re talking about, you’d look at cutting the education budget by up to 20 percent. “

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To which Romney later responded:

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“Mr. President, you’re entitled, as the president, to your own airplane and to your own house, but not to your own facts — (laughter) — all right? I’m — I’m not going to cut education funding. I don’t have any plan to cut education funding and grants that go to people going to college. I’m planning on continuing to grow, so I’m not planning on making changes there.”

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That seemed a pretty stark difference: Obama claiming Romney will cut education by 20 percent; Romney claiming that he has no plans to cut education and in fact would continue to expand eduction spending. That exchange helped to set the tone of the evening and was one of the more specific areas in which the new, more moderate Romney — Romney 6.4 you might say — had emerged.

So I thought I’d start digging a little to get at the truth: Which man was correct. To start, I turned to Mitt Romney’s website, in which he outlines in broad detail his plans to cut federal spending. There we find two steps , published below in bold, that Romney promises to implement immediately upon taking office:

“– Send Congress a bill on Day One that cuts non-security discretionary spending by 5 percent across the board.” (Education is considered non-security discretionary spending. If we take him at his word, this is a Romney promise to immediately slash education spending across the board by 5 percent.)

– “Pass the House Republican Budget proposal, rolling back President Obama’s government expansion by capping non-security discretionary spending below 2008 levels.” (Rolling back non-security discretionary spending to the level of five years earlier would require significant cuts in education. And rather than exempt education from such cuts, House Republicans appear to target that area, particularly “education funding and grants that go to people going to college,” as Romney put it.)

We can, if you wish, give Romney the benefit of the doubt here. For now, let’s leave open the possibility that he disagrees with the House Republicans on this one issue. What does he himself have to say about education spending in general and college tuition-assistance in particular?

Let’s turn here to the 34-page “white paper” on education put out by the Romney campaign, titled “A Chance for Every Child”. And what do we find?

“Unfortunately, like a man with a hammer that sees every problem as a nail, President Obama’s policy response to every education challenge has been more federal spending. Increased spending on our K-12 public schools has failed to produce results, and increased spending is already one of higher education’s greatest problems….

Unlike President Obama, Mitt Romney understands that more spending is the last thing our schools need.”

Hmmm. “… increased (federal) spending is already one of higher education’s greatest problems”?

That doesn’t sound like a man committed to preserving let alone expanding spending in that area, now does it? Now let’s bring the focus in tighter still, to those “grants that go to people going to college” that Romney specifically referenced. Those would be Pell grants, a government program for which I have a particular fondness.

Back in my own college days, I was a poor, lazy member of the “47 percent” working nights and weekends and summer jobs to put myself through school because my parents lacked the resources to contribute much. To finance my education, I leaned heavily on what were known at the time as Basic Educational Opportunity Grants. Without them, I’m not sure I would have made it.

Today, most Pell grants go to students with a family income of $30,000 or less, which isn’t much. These are people for whom upward mobility is a real struggle. The maximum annual grant amount of $5,550 isn’t much either, but for those who receive it, I know from personal experience that it is essential. And what does Romney have to say about the Pell grant program in his white paper?

“… as a result of the expanding entitlement mentality, the Pell Grant program — the foundation of the federal investment in student financial aid — is on unsure financial footing. To keep up with the program’s massive increases, the government has been forced to take steps such as eliminating subsidized loans for graduate students. A Romney Administration will refocus Pell Grant dollars on the students that need them most and place the program on a responsible long-term path that avoids future funding cliffs and last-minute funding patches.”

Somehow, linking a program to “the entitlement mentality” and suggesting it has been overfunded does not sound particularly promising, now does it? It’s a linkage the paper makes not once but twice, arguing elsewhere that “America is fast becoming a society where … a government loan is an entitlement.” That’s GOP-speak for placement on the endangered list.

Now, what about actual numbers? As a policy statement, the education white paper contains no specific data about education spending levels, but do we have other ways of estimating what Romney has in mind?

Yes, we do. In documents focusing on spending, Romney has set certain overall budget-cutting goals as well as goals for discretionary, non-defense spending, which again is the category that includes k-12 education as well as higher ed. Assuming that Medicare is exempted from future spending cuts, as Romney seemed to indicate in the debate, spending on discretionary, non-defense spending would have to be slashed to 1.3 percent of GDP by 2022 to meet his targets.

I used the word “slashed” above. Is that justified by the extent of the cuts proposed? Yes, it is justified and then some.

As the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities notes, “spending for this category has averaged 3.9 percent of GDP over the past 50 years and has never fallen below 3.2 percent of GDP during this period.” So cutting it to 1.3 percent of GDP, as promised by Romney, would require a deep, deep slash.

In fact, assuming that Medicare, Social Security and defense are exempt from cuts, spending in non-defense discretionary programs would have to be cut by 32 percent by 2016 and 53 percent by 2022 to meet his goals.

And yes, you could argue theoretically that education might made be exempt from such cuts under Romney. Theoretically, that could be true. However, when you consider that other programs in that category include veterans health care, air traffic controllers, the FBI, highway and transit construction etc., exempting education from 50 percent cuts just isn’t likely.

Budget discussions are supposedly all about the bottom line. And here’s the bottom line in this particular discussion:

You cannot simultaneously be the genial, friendly, moderate Mitt Romney on the stage in Denver who claims that he has no intention of cutting education spending, but in fact plans to increase it, while also demanding credit as the severely conservative Mitt Romney out to wean America of that “entitlement mentality” by slashing social spending, including education, to the bone.

It doesn’t — or shouldn’t — work like that.

– Jay Bookman

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follow the money

October 5th, 2012
5:56 am

it is all about the “Southern Strategy” against minorities…Georgia wants the state to vote on an Amendment to give the Governor control of the Charter Schools. Deal also is trying to appointment someone to take over the lottery that has no experience running a lottery. Follow the money and see how minorities will be shut out again. Be aware people and vote NO to the Charther School Amendment on November 6. Some things in the South “Never” changes and racism is rearing its ugly head…Are the Koch Brothers contributing the the advertisement of the Charter School Amendment? Follow the money people…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ACS4PgDFA

Ben

October 5th, 2012
5:57 am

Romney is nothing more than a car salesman.

stands for decibels - race traitor

October 5th, 2012
6:00 am

To be honest, I don’t know why anyone would bother listening past a bit that starts with something as douche-baggy as “you’re entitled to your own airplane…”

But thanks for the takedown, Jay.

stands for decibels - race traitor

October 5th, 2012
6:00 am

Sure hope Teh Slanties get fixed…

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:04 am

Jack

October 5th, 2012
6:09 am

Rather than find fault with Romney, put some effort into cancelling the future debates; it’s only going to get worse for Obama.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:10 am

I also see where Romney, who once described his “47 percent” comments as “not elegant” but still correct, is now proclaiming them “just completely wrong.”

You expect flip-flopping from this guy. But they’ve called in the complete-makeover crew this time.

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
6:10 am

It’s the problem we’ve been having with the Romney campaign from the very beginning: At what point are we supposed to take what he’s saying seriously?

I mean, will the real Mitt Romney please stand up, or at least take that sh*t-eating grin off your face!

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
6:14 am

Blah, there goes breakfast. LOL

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
6:15 am

Who cares about details? He kicked Jim Lehrer’s @$$. And that’s what America REALLY needs, a guy who will show those PBS pansies who’s boss.

UPGRAYEDD

October 5th, 2012
6:19 am

I think the entire metamorphosis of Romney before our very eyes was a carefully crafted debate strategy. In this format, it is literally impossible to contradict an opponent’s statements with documented evidence. In this way, it’s much like right wing talk radio….the talking head can spew unsubstantiated notions, the listeners cheer each distortion or lie, and no venue exists to refute the legitimacy of each point.

Romney can say whatever he wants, with impunity. Jay nailed it with the education lie. There were many, many others.

Some dude

October 5th, 2012
6:19 am

Good work, Jay!

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:22 am

Basically, Romney is acknowledging that a conservative Republican cannot be elected because the American people reject that mindset and the policies that flow from them, so he is completely ditching that persona as fast as possible.

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October 5th, 2012
6:23 am

Good, good Friday morning to all y’all…

TOM,
“that sh*t-eating grin”…is just his “tell” that he thinks he’s got us fooled. As Bugs would say…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

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October 5th, 2012
6:28 am

UPGRAYEDD

October 5th, 2012
6:30 am

Jay, when will the right wingers realize that Romney is “ditching that persona” and what will their reaction be?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:35 am

Romney’s walking back the 47% comment??? my gawd, what will Scout and Thulsa and WillieB do now???

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:35 am

mmmmmmm … I kinda like being italicized … it’s slimming …

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:36 am

UPGRAYEDD, nobody knows, including Romney.

I suspect that he will push this reinvention as far as his base will allow him, hoping that they — like he — understand it is the only way he can win. He’s taking a gamble, but a necessary gamble from his point of view.

Kolob man

October 5th, 2012
6:37 am

He should have the nick name:

The Mormon Chameleon

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
6:38 am

Grover Norquist: “All we need is someone in the White House with enough working digits to hold a pen.”

Mitt Romney: Me, me, me, me , oh please let it be me!

A Simple Man

October 5th, 2012
6:38 am

It’s terrible. Right up there with “I’ll cut the deficit in half.” and “I barely knew Reverend Wright” and “I’ll close Gitmo” and the shovel ready job stuff and ….

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:39 am

“The Mormon Chameleon”

ah, dammit … now, I’ve got

Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon cham-eeeee-le-ooooon … you fliiiiip flooooooooop … you fliiip flooooooop …

in my head.

thanks for that.

malco

October 5th, 2012
6:39 am

Its like reading a blog of a family gathering. Goofy stuff. But its your stuff.

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October 5th, 2012
6:40 am

Off topic…sorta…but too funny!

http://cheezburger.com/6587118592

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:40 am

A simple man – yep, you’re right – an obstructionist congress IS a terrible thing.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:41 am

Normal – HA!

almost as good as this meme from yesterday http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27799898.jpg

joe fabitz

October 5th, 2012
6:43 am

4 years of Lies…and Failed Promises.

Hmmm — so this election should be about accountability?

Obama pledged to “cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office,”
– Deficit when he took office was $1.2 Trillion…CBO projected 2012 deficit is $1.25 Trillion

Obama pledged to “lift two million Americans from poverty”
– a record 46 million Americans are now living in poverty.

Obama predicted his stimulus bill would help push the unemployment rate to 5.6% by July 2012.
– 40+ months of unemployment above 8%

Granny Godzilla

October 5th, 2012
6:43 am

He lied.

Mitt happens.

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AliVonGoldberg

October 5th, 2012
6:45 am

There should be no surprise about Barack Obama. What we saw the otherr night night was a Barack Obama as he really is. It was not Jim Lehrer’s fault, it was not that Obama was tired or ill or some other excuse. He disrespected his supporters, his campaign team, and the American people by not digging in and preparing for the debate. He demonstrated he is lazy and aloof . He is that and nothing more. He will fare no better in the upcoming debates.

A Simple Man

October 5th, 2012
6:48 am

US in UK – Obstructionist congress?? Is that what you call Pelosi and Reed the first two years when they had total control of the government? They could have passed a “Drink only Vodka on Tuesday” law if they wanted. That would have been more productive by the way.

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BBro

October 5th, 2012
6:48 am

What is it with you media people? You avoid everything there is about the way the U.S. is crumbling at the hands of Obama and his administration and you pluck out a bigbird feather. Just so the readers know Romney was the governor of Massachusetts, where the schools are “ranked number one of all 50 states
It seems as if the media’s on the Obama payroll as well with all this bogus BS!

weetamoe

October 5th, 2012
6:49 am

Journolist was late in sending you the script this morning. Obama was out there yesterday like a cowardly bully who runs back to his gang to taunt and throw rocks at the guy who won the argument.

Madmax

October 5th, 2012
6:49 am

And you cannot be the friendly cool hip guy who gives everyone something. tells contractors to not follow the law and tell folks they are about to be laid off (and by the way don’t worry about it, the American taxpayer will pick up your legal fees), run 4 years of unprecedented deficits with increased spending levels and whose only solution (even though the math doesn’t work) is to raise taxes on the “perceived wealthy and expect people to believe you are serious about deficit reduction.

atlbizman

October 5th, 2012
6:50 am

The money you were given for college by the Federal government, was borrowed from the Chinese. Those that pay Federal Income tax, are still paying interest on it. Based on your research, Romney could cut education grants but only by 5%. Romney wants to restore a strong economy through smart Federal spending and that will help all Americans, especially those that need the most help.

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
6:50 am

New jobs report coming out today. This one should show 31 straight months of economic growth, with 5 million plus new private-sector jobs. Hey, that’s better that Dubya did in all eight years. O-bama, O-bama, O-bama!!!! :)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:50 am

Joe – wrong – the deficit isn’t halved, but it is down 3/4 according to the CBO

“At 7.3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), this year’s deficit will be three-quarters as large as the deficit in 2009 when measured relative to the size of the economy. ”

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43539

Obama said the stimulus would lift 2 million out of poverty – and considering that non-farm payrolls have been positive for the last 2 years, I think that pledge still stands.

as for unemployment over 8%, why don’t you place the blame where it belongs – on the corporations sitting on record profits and not hiring.

Derek w

October 5th, 2012
6:50 am

So out of your candidates terrible performance and inability to defend his record you idiots are now all just attacking Romney saying he lied. Democratic talking points, and you accuse the conservatives of being sheep to fox news. Face it your mesiah is a fake, a joke and woefully incapable of doing anything other than pandering to your 47 percenters. Enjoy your last few weeks of Obama’s reign of redistribution. Guess you are all going to have to go out and find a job like the rest of us. lol.

weetamoe

October 5th, 2012
6:51 am

My favorite comment of the week so far comes from Reason’s Nick Gillespie, who calls Obama a *Dime store Ozymandias.*

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:51 am

“Obstructionist congress?? Is that what you call Pelosi and Reed the first two years when they had total control of the government? ”

bollocks – when you had the GOP that required a 2/3 majority vote on everything except approving the previous day’s journal, they needed a super majority, which they didn’t have.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:52 am

Was he lying then or is he lying now?

Yes.

Leon Francis

October 5th, 2012
6:52 am

can you even spell yellow journalism? putz!

bob

October 5th, 2012
6:52 am

Can Obama do for America’s public schools what he and his party have done to Chicago schools ? Lets hope not. Lets cut through the bull here, Obama’s old neighborhood schools are terrible and Chicago dems own that system. Rham sends his kids to privates and 60% of the teachers do as well. If being a community activist is a launchpad to the presidency shouldn’t we be able to look how the activist helped his schools ? And is he actually going to cut or are we talking about a DC cut. A DC cut is where spending goes up but some politician claims he cut spending because it went up slower under him. Chicago schools are not serving the lower class at all and dems cannot point fingers at repubs. Shouldn’t Chicago be an example of democrat party influenced excellence ? Why can’t Obama point out his success in Chicago by taking America a tour through some of it’s schools.

old man

October 5th, 2012
6:53 am

@Ben

Romney’s plan–to let bankers and hedge fund managers run amok until another bubble bursts, with the middle class holding the bag–was used by Bush. So, to be precise, Romney is nothing but a USED car salesman.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:53 am

So Leon, you see a lengthy, exhaustive and well-documented analysis of Romney’s education policy as “yellow journalism”?

Would you care to take issue with any portion of it? Challenge the facts? Challenge the analysis?

No, I didn’t think so.

Jay

October 5th, 2012
6:56 am

Derek, I’ll pose the same challenge to you. If you think my analysis is wrong, show us how and where.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
6:56 am

“Can Obama do for America’s public schools what he and his party have done to Chicago schools ?”

Obama controlled Chicago schools??

who knew!

A Simple Man

October 5th, 2012
6:58 am

USinUK Really? If that were true then the health care bill would NEVER have passed. He did what he wanted to do. Also, the deficit is down 3/4 or 75%? Did that happen overnight?

Lord Help Us

October 5th, 2012
6:58 am

My fav was, ‘I’m gonna cut taxes, but the amount owed is gonna be the same.’

eddy

October 5th, 2012
7:00 am

And of course our supreme leader, Zippy, never lies in his speeches and campaign ads. Only pearls of wisdom flow across his golden tongue!!!! Keep spinning Jay. You might have a career at MSNBC or Current TV….remember, it is the altitude’s fault that Obama’s brain cells failed to fire!

A Simple Man

October 5th, 2012
7:01 am

In my simple way I find it fascinating that some people are “upset” over what MIGHT be a lie (yet to be seen) by Romney, but totally excuse the one’s by Obama.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz said when confronted about a lie Obama’s ad said regarding Romney, “It doesn’t matter.”

the cat

October 5th, 2012
7:01 am

I like feisty Jay! Keep it up.

Bud Wiser

October 5th, 2012
7:02 am

Oh yeah, throw money at the DOE, it has worked so very well in the past.

What has US education slipped to in world rankings? 17 overall? It was #1 before Carter came up with his DOE.

You dems always think throwing money at problems will solve them; well, how’s it working for you so far?

Solyndra? LBJ’s ‘Great Society’? General Motors? (requiring it is estimated another $22 billion to prop up the union’s pensions even further) Another stimulus anyone? Banks too big to fail funded so dozens of smaller ones around them can fail instead?

Obama’s staring down during the ‘debate’ was at least a good direction; he was looking at where his future is going.

Oh, and the “Romney lies” crap from the media stooges, fed no doubt from the notepads of pmsnbc and mediamatters and mother jones? This pathetic attempt is sickly laughable, and I don’t mean cough wheeze sick or funny haha laughable. It is the bleating of the media stooge-dom trying to defend that pathetic candidate that all America saw without his teleprompter and media-fitted insulated criticism-proof condom where they have kept him for the last 4 years.

Madmax

October 5th, 2012
7:02 am

You can’t claim that you will work for bi-partisan support and then tell the other side to get in the back of the bus. You can’t claim you will work for bi-partisan support and then pass Obamacare without any participation from the other side. You can’t claim transparency in government and swing back room deals that exempt certain segments of the population from Obamacare.. You can’t claim that you will have the most open administration ever and promise to allow 72 hours for review of all legislation and then not do it.

So who is the liar?

Mr. Snarky

October 5th, 2012
7:02 am

Wow! The dbag weasel is doing his thing. If you change positions enough, you’ll confuse your opponent. Quite the strategy.

Get Real

October 5th, 2012
7:06 am

Simple Man

You are spot on as there are only excuses from the left regarding the whoppers told by the snake oil salesman from Chicago

Fred ™

October 5th, 2012
7:06 am

Face it your mesiah is a fake, a joke and woefully incapable of doing anything other than pandering to your 47 percenters. Enjoy your last few weeks of Obama’s reign of redistribution

Thank you for your Hannity quotes. Have you any thoughts of your own to add?

Madmax

October 5th, 2012
7:07 am

Snarky – that’s not a nice thing to say about the President.

Get Real

October 5th, 2012
7:08 am

Bud Wiser

Go Bud Go…..

Lord Help Us

October 5th, 2012
7:08 am

Lots of braggadocio, but not even one challenge to your analysis. Looks like it stands.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:09 am

” If that were true then the health care bill would NEVER have passed. He did what he wanted to do”

the health care bill passed only because the Dems gave the store away to appease the GOP

as far as the deficit reduction, sorry you don’t like the facts, but facts they are.

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
7:09 am

A Simple Man

You know, sir, that if you were more like your candidate, you could be two simple men, possibly three!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:10 am

“You can’t claim you will work for bi-partisan support and then pass Obamacare without any participation from the other side.”

without any participation??? ffs, the Dems met EVERY GOP demand -

Jay

October 5th, 2012
7:10 am

“your 47 percenters …” Derek?

But, your own nominee says such talk is “just completely wrong.” He says YOU are “just completely wrong” to say such things.

old man

October 5th, 2012
7:13 am

I have listened over and over to Romney’s response to the criticism by Obama (quoting legions of economists) that his 20% tax cut will create a $5 trillion dollar deficit. Here is a hypothetical, but equally logical scenario:

OBAMA: Governor, you’re wearing a blue suit.

ROMNEY (wearing a blue suit): Mr. President, first of all, I promised to never wear a blue suit, Underline that. So no one can tell me that I’m wearing a blue suit.

I am also reminded of Joe Pesci in “My Cousin Vinny,” cross-examining the short order cook about his “magic grits.” Romney has cooked up some magic tax cuts, the kind where the deficit is not increased. Yeah, that’s the ticket, I think I’ll go out today and write some “magic checks,” the kind that never show up on my statement.

Lynn43

October 5th, 2012
7:14 am

Romney also said he would send Title I and IDEA money directly to parents in the form of vouchers. A voucher of this money will not pay for a private school for children with disabilities. How many parents of children with disabilities do you know who have the extra money laying around to make up the difference between the voucher and the cost of a private education. This either shows Mr. Romney’s bias for the few wealthy people who might have the extra money or that he just doesn’t understand the expense involved with a child with disabilities and the sacrifices parents have to make on a daily basis just to get by.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:14 am

“But, your own nominee says such talk is “just completely wrong.” He says YOU are “just completely wrong” to say such things”

or Romney is.

or he was.

or he might be again.

I dunno – his “deep political beliefs” are like a newborn’s diaps – changed frequently

Lord Help Us

October 5th, 2012
7:15 am

I can’t wait to see how liberal Romney gets on the foreign policy and domestic issues debates. Will continue to abandon his base?

A Simple Man

October 5th, 2012
7:15 am

US in UK

I see that the deficit in 2008 was 459 Billion.
I see that the deficit in 2012 is over one trillion.

It’s been a while since my high school math, but how is that a cut of 75%?

Jay

October 5th, 2012
7:16 am

“I dunno – his “deep political beliefs” are like a newborn’s diaps – changed frequently”

and for the same reason.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:16 am

“I can’t wait to see how liberal Romney gets on the foreign policy and domestic issues debates. Will continue to abandon his base?”

In honor of Skyfall’s debut … I like my Etch-a-Sketch shaken … not stirred …

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:17 am

“It’s been a while since my high school math, but how is that a cut of 75%?”

Obama was president in 2008?

really??? want to reconsider your assessment?

OedipusTax

October 5th, 2012
7:17 am

‘”I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years . . . A year from now, I think people are gonna see that we’re starting to make some progress, but there’s still gonna be some pain out there. If I don’t get this done in three years then there’s gonna be a one-term proposition.” Barack Obama, Today Show, Feb 2, 2009.

President Obama promised that if the stimulus was passed, unemployment would peak at only 8%. It peaked well over 10% nationwide, with many states, counties and metropolitan areas surpassing 26%.’

from wwww.imperfectparent.com

Unemployment was over 8% for 39 months from 1948-2008. Unemployment has been over 8% for the last 43 months of the Obama Presidency WITH the stimulus he was advocating on the Today Show when he made this promise.

If Jay Bookman was interested in the truth, and not spreading lies and his distortions, might he portray our President as betraying his word by running for a second term? Obama’s lies and failures are crippling our children’s future. Think Jay Bookman cares about the truth? He is just a liberal myrmidon and sycophant, a Cynthia Tucker wannabe mediocrity. But don’t for one minute think that Jay Bookman gives a damn about anyone else but himself, or the slightest damn about the truth.

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October 5th, 2012
7:17 am

If I could meet Romney face to face, I’d say…

http://cheezburger.com/6611099648

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:19 am

“President Obama promised that if the stimulus was passed, unemployment would peak at only 8%”

really?? show us the quote.

(here’s a hint: there isn’t one)

Peter

October 5th, 2012
7:23 am

He will out source education….. the best will be those who get sent to Dubai !

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USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:24 am

Jm

October 5th, 2012
7:24 am

Obama reinventing himself for the next debate

Or trying anyway

Jay

October 5th, 2012
7:24 am

All of these people dredging up Obama quotes and fake quotes pretend to forget the economic collapse of late 2008 — the greatest collapse in some 80 years — that occurred after these statements and that utterly transformed the economic and budgetary outlook.

The American people, however, do not forget that fact. Their memories are not that short, and they recognize that what Obama faced upon taking office in 2009 was nothing like what the world looked like during the campaign.

Jm

October 5th, 2012
7:27 am

Another hack job post from jay, not factual in any way

Madmax

October 5th, 2012
7:28 am

USINK – Bi-partisan support includes involving the other side, not putting out a 20,000 page document and saying we incorporated your ideas, go find them. Bi-partisan support is working with people from the other side. Bi-partisan support means you send the bill back to congress for resolution on the differences. So stop buying the talking points and look at how this man operates. After watching him in the debates the other day, I now realize why he doesn’t hold many press conferences or work with the other side – he is just not very quick of mind.

mike

October 5th, 2012
7:28 am

I find it interesting that folks of left leaning persuasion are appalled by Romney’s “flip-flops”, but look right past the many flip flops that our current President has had.

Jm

October 5th, 2012
7:28 am

One can cut discretionary without cutting education

It’s called priorities

And Romney views education as a priority

Jay lied

Jay

October 5th, 2012
7:28 am

I think the reason that we’re not seeing any challenges to the analysis presented here — beyond the fact that it is too well-documented to challenge anyway — is that conservatives don’t know which way to turn on this.

Do they argue that Romney really WILL cut education, and thus prove that he and they are honest about cutting the budget? Or do they argue that Romney really WON’T cut education, and by doing so endorse the RINO position?

They’re trapped in a snare of their own setting.

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
7:29 am

There it is, and thank you, Jay!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:29 am

oh, FFS, jm … blogger is ready when you are, if you think you can do any better.

Jay offers evidence to back up his claims – all you offer is a smelly, oily discharge.

stands for decibels

October 5th, 2012
7:30 am

So in summary, once again, American conservatives lie about who they’re going to screw over in hopes that people will be gullible enough to vote for them. Same verse, no different from the first.

The American people, however, do not forget that fact

Vast numbers of the American people, also, know what kind of dogwhistle is being blown when this d-bag decides to zing with “you’re entitled, as President, to your own airplane.”

And that is all I’ll say about that.

Jm

October 5th, 2012
7:30 am

Not one direct shred of evidence showing Romney would cut education spending

But jay says Romney lied

Whatever

indigo

October 5th, 2012
7:31 am

Romney has been flip-flopping, zig-zagging and doing 180’s since day one of this campaign. There seems to be an air of desperation around him in his zeal to become president. What could account for this?

An uncomfortable possibility suggests itself. Have the “prophets” of his Church told him God wants him to be president? Does he really believe this? If so, we need to run, not walk, away from him as fast as possible as the last thing we need is another man in the White House who believes “God wants me to be President”.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:31 am

“Bi-partisan support includes involving the other side, not putting out a 20,000 page document and saying we incorporated your ideas, go find them. Bi-partisan support is working with people from the other side. ”

since you obviously have no idea how Congress works, here’s a hint: republicans are members of the committees where these bills are marked up. They WERE involved every step of the way.

Jm

October 5th, 2012
7:31 am

“no challenges” yet to a 5am post

How silly

Liberal desperation

Aquagirl

October 5th, 2012
7:32 am

Not one direct shred of evidence showing Romney would cut education spending

Jm wins that point….all we have is Romney SAYING he’d cut education spending. And who would be dumb enough to believe his flipflop words?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 5th, 2012
7:33 am

“And who would be dumb enough to believe his flipflop words?”

Jm, evidently.

Tom Middleton

October 5th, 2012
7:34 am

Aquagirl

LOLOLOL

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 5th, 2012
7:36 am

It’s always fun to watch the party faithful debate which candidate is a better liar.

mike

October 5th, 2012
7:36 am

It is fun to watch the dynamic when a group becomes really scared of what might happen in the near future.