An unprepared, unfocused Obama pays the price
Remember the classic nightmare in which you show up unprepared for a test in a class that you completely forgot you had?
That’s what Barack Obama looked like last night. From the opening question, he came off as unprepared, unsteady and almost uninterested in the task at hand. He found himself on defense throughout the debate, and when opportunities arose, he failed to recognize them.
As I noted last night during the live blog, Obama seemed overconfident coming in, as if he had underestimated both his opponent and the occasion. By the end of the evening, overconfidence should no longer have been a problem. As CNN noted, 67 percent of those polled who had watched the debate declared Mitt Romney the victor.
“No presidential candidate has topped 60 percent in that question since it was first asked in 1984,” CNN polling director Keating Holland pointed out.
And a good part of that was caused by Mitt Romney. He came in hungry, needing a win, and it showed in his focus and preparation. He got the better of almost every exchange, in part because at some point in his debate prep he decided to finally make the transition from “severely conservative” GOP primary candidate to general-election candidate.
The new Romney endorsed regulation of business. He dismissed tax cuts as an economic policy. He embraced his own Massachusetts health-care plan. He talked of compromise and working together. A surprised Obama wasn’t ready to handle this latest Romney incarnation and repeatedly failed to tie the moderate, genial GOP candidate on that stage in Denver to the GOP candidate on the campaign trail.
Will the outcome of this debate, the first of three between Obama and Romney, create a ripple in the polls? It almost certainly will. I doubt it will cost Obama his lead, but it should shrink it and introduce doubt in many minds that had not previously doubted. Romney had the night that he needed to keep his funders happy and his base engaged.
The next debate, covering foreign and domestic policy in a townhall forum, will be Oct. 16 at Hofstra University in New York. I suspect that they’ll be scrambling at the White House this morning to clear more time from the president’s calendar for prep work between now and then. He can’t afford a repeat of what happened last night in Denver.
– Jay Bookman
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td
October 4th, 2012
1:46 pm
David Axelrod, President Barack Obama’s top strategist, has said that the campaign will take a ‘hard look’ at how to approach future debates and admitted that ‘I’m sure that we will make adjustments’.
All but stating that Mitt Romney had won the Denver debate, Axelrod conceded that the performance aspect was ‘not the President’s strong suit in these events’ but insisted that ‘I don’t see us adding huge amounts of additional prep time’.
Axelrod, speaking on a campaign conference call, made an appeal to reporters to make the points that Obama himself had failed to make in the debate
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2212961/Top-Obama-aide-say-debate-performance-Presidents-strong-suit-asks-medias-help-Mitt-Romney.html#ixzz28LyoWqZN
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USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:46 pm
A sordid trek through the Left-wing fantasy swamps…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
1:46 pm
JHM
I’m sure that DHS has enough to do with less and less resources without adding this to their plate, but yeah, I would be for that provided they hire the additional personnel.
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
1:46 pm
Obama and Carter – separated at birth…
Here visualizing Carter’s lips and Oblunda’s ears and smooth brown skin and it occurred to me that we have us a Mr. Potatohead kit, just in time for the Christmas toy shopping season.
Ben Shockley
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
“What an imbecile you are Benji”
As I suggested to Joe, it’s curious how it’s the imbecile conservatives who land good jobs, earn good salaries, save their own money, invest for their own retirement, and provide their own health care, while you intellectually superior libbies find all that stuff just a little too hard.
Keep putting all your eggs in the government basket. All you’reever going to get is food stamps and a free cell phone, but maybe that’s living well where you come from.
Really not my problem.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
“Gomer the lesser is having some paris island flashbacks and thinks the mittsiah was his DI…knock, knock – wakeup and give me fifty!!!”–MICKEY MOUSE
Hey Mick,
How is South Florida treating you? Hope all is well. I am still envious of that South Florida climate/Lifestyle of yours.
JamVet
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
td, ask your Democratic party why. Then ask your GOP why.
Missing the point/playing stupid to perfection.
Ben Shlockley = 1
td = 1
ITS ALL BUSHIES FAULT
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
Hey CONS dont get your panties all in a wad. Flip Robme was in desparation mode last night, Rock Bama is just laying the trap…….LOSERS….
Soldier Mom
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
So what happens when after a few days, reality sets in that the numbers Mitt had last night, and all his arguments were based on lies? What will the undecided’s say then? If you are an undecided voter, (not many of them here, myself included) it is because you are looking really, really deep into what the candidates are saying. Now undecided’s pretty much know what Obama has said because he hasn’t changed his stance in the four years he has been our President. Mitt on the other hand, changes his stance depeneding on who he is sitting in front of. If you are undecided, I suspect you are not happy with the results of last night’s debate because if you thought you knew where Mitt stood, your totally confused now. Even his campaign today is walking back some of what he said, like pre=extising conditions are NOT covered under whatever plan he has.
Logical Dude
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
Jamvet:
A longer answer is here: http://www.sciencedebate.org/debate12/
quoting: Mitt Romney:
I am not a scientist myself, but my best assessment of the data is that the world is getting warmer, that human activity contributes to that warming,
That Black Guy
October 4th, 2012
1:49 pm
Normal Free…Pro Human Rights Thug…And liking it!
October 4th, 2012
8:55 am
And I will never get over the fact that a man who says he wants to be the President of The United States won’t fly an American flag on his yacht because he would rather save a few bucks. It shows that his first thought are not for his country, but for his bank account. That is not how I want my President to think. Nope, no debate is going to change my mind.
____________________________________
But you will OBVIOUSLY let a LIE make up your mind.
That was NOT Romney’s yacht.
The yacht is owned by Gary Morse, CEO of The Villages.
Once again, it was NOT romney’s yacht. Romney does NOT own the yacht.
http://www.dailycommercial.com/083112yacht
Mick
October 4th, 2012
1:49 pm
So, let me get the picture here; according to wingers and the press, romney obliiterated all his miscues, blunders, and obfuscations in an hour and thirty minute debate? Talk about fantasy…
independent thinker
October 4th, 2012
1:49 pm
“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"Number two, I will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. I know that you and your running mate keep saying that and I know it’s a popular thing to say with a lot of people, but it’s just not the case. Look, I’ve got five boys. I’m used to people saying something that’s not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping I’ll believe it. But that — that is not the case. All right? I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
I will believe this when i see pigs flie. He already said he will repeal Obama Care because of the tax increases built into it like capital gains. Lyin Ryan and the GOP have been screaming about those taxes how they will repeal them day one.
Apparently his sons are pathological liars just like him. Sounds great if you are one of the sheep.
Go Navy
October 4th, 2012
1:49 pm
Save Georgia’s Schools from the Charter Amendment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ACS4PgDFA
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
1:49 pm
getalife
SoCo/bro provided a link yesterday that South Africa was working on this very thing, also.
RB from Gwinnett
October 4th, 2012
1:50 pm
Obama is on the campaign trail today chastising Romney for not knowing about the tax breaks that “encourage” outsourcing. Anybody care to show Romney what legislation Obama is talking about?
He’s yours, defend him if you can.
Bloomberg Troll
October 4th, 2012
1:50 pm
“He stands for nothing and is a fairy tale.”
Getalife, the fairy tale won last time.
getalife
October 4th, 2012
1:51 pm
No tax cut for the wealthy is never mind about what he said this whole campaign.
The whopper this cycle but” helping the middle class” is a close second.
td
October 4th, 2012
1:51 pm
JamVet
October 4th, 2012
1:48 pm
td, ask your Democratic party why. Then ask your GOP why.
Missing the point/playing stupid to perfection.
Ben Shlockley = 1
td = 1
Trying to pretend you are not a diehard progressive (socialist) Democrat.
Thanks for the laugh.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:51 pm
“Hey CONS dont get your panties all in a wad. Flip Robme was in desparation mode last night, Rock Bama is just laying the trap…….LOSERS….”–Delusional Leftwing-nut
LOL! SCREEN CLEANER, Please! That is hilarious!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
1:51 pm
Oblunda’s ears and smooth brown skin…
There’s your sign.
TaxPayer
October 4th, 2012
1:51 pm
We can arrange for some more hidden cameras if that’s the only way for voters to get to know the real Mitt Romney. As if they don’t know him already.
I think the one hidden camera was more than sufficient. But for the doubters out there, just compare and contrast Mitt’s positions on every single topic. 
TBone
October 4th, 2012
1:51 pm
Yeah that’s the ticket; Obasma was just sandbagging and is gonna slip the sucker punch on Mitt the next go around. Your guy just ain’t that bright and it really showed last night.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:52 pm
“visualizing Carter’s lips”
there’s your sign…
Regnad Kcin
October 4th, 2012
1:52 pm
“Obama Supporters Concede Debate Defeat”
A difference – you never see Romney supporters concede anything. I think it’s that inside-the-bubble vs. reality worldview thing…
JamVet
October 4th, 2012
1:52 pm
Ben, you are an intellectual lightweight. (Don’t shoot the messenger.)
Your opinions are relevant. There is absolutely nothing in ANY of your posts that is verifiable or can be corroborated. And why you don’t even try to include data, facts, links quotes etc that can be confirmed. You just spitball Rush talking points all day.
Like virtually every other con here, empirical data just ain’t your deal. And why you are the perfect Bush voting neocon.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:53 pm
Smile, Barrak Obama. You’re on Candid Camera!
getalife
October 4th, 2012
1:53 pm
Kam,
I think it is an interesting and progressive idea.
I have to read up on it more but believe we should use ideas that work in other countries.
Mick
October 4th, 2012
1:53 pm
usmc
My world is just fine and dandy; I give obama credit for a very definitive line that romney failed to answer concerning medicare, what if your 54 or 53 said obama to romney? I will be 55 in february and that always seems to be the magic cutoff number for the cons plans concerning medicare, so, technically I’ll be safe but…my brothers and sisters under me sure don’t like it…
They BOTH suck
October 4th, 2012
1:55 pm
td
Jamvet doesn’t vote Repub or Dem
I know you are stuck on stupid at times with the talk radio and Dick Morris shtick, but there are people that do not vote for either of the majority parties
Has no one told you that before or are you so stuck in stupidville that you are unable to comprehend that FACT?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 4th, 2012
1:55 pm
Doom — ““Foolish fabulism”? Just what I’ve come to expect from Joe. How unfortunate.”
It’s precisely what you did. You posited that I was going to bring up that guy from the commercial when I had no intention of doing anything of the sort. It was a pathetic and dishonest tactic on your part and you should be ashamed of it.
“Ownership does not imply leadership???”
Yes. Bain *owned* companies. Bain did not *control and direct their daily operations.*
“Bumper sticker sloganeering is not a credible response in my book.”
Good. That’s why I didn’t engage in it.
“Try again sir.”
No. Bain did not control and direct the day-to-day operations of those companies. Therefore, there was no “leadership” on Romney’s part going on there.
“And if you would like to demonstrate how Romney’s advice, capital, and consulting didn’t help turn around and make many of these companies successful then I would be happy to reconsider.”
I don’t need you to reconsider. I’ve already stated my opinion on the matter. If you want me to reconsider, then I’ve told you what you need to do.
“The track record of success is there. And your feeble attempts to tear down his successful track record aint gonna change that.”
One can’t tear down what doesn’t exist.
“Only a fool would believe that Romney didn’t have a hand in helping to bring in or hire outside consultants or executive leadership in any of these companies.”
Since you apparently didn’t catch my question, I’ll ask again. How many hiring decisions did Romney personally get involved in? If you think Romney did so much hiring, then you should be able to show me some hiring that he actually performed.
“Ah yes. I wondered when Joe was going to get to the part about closing facilities and plants.”
Shorter Doom: I got nothin.
“As you well know Joe when you are a venture capitalist or private equity capitalist you are not going to be able to save every company you take over. Some of them are going to fail no matter how hard you try to turn them around.”
I’m aware of that.
“But like I said go ahead and focus on the few failures since it fits the pre conceived narrative that you are trying to lay out. It doesn’t change the big picture. And the big picture is that while there were some inevitable failures along the way Bain capital helped turn around and grow some remarkable business enterprises such as target, sports authority, and other companies.”
No, there’s no big picture here. Another poster (USMC) made a specific assertion. I responded *specifically* to that assertion. You have no effective refutation *to* my response, and so you appear to be trying to broaden the argument.
Romney isn’t, IMO a “captain of industry” since he’s got no *industrial* experience. And he’s not, IMO, a “leader of men” because he didn’t actually *lead* the companies that Bain owned — whether we’re talking about ones that succeeded or ones that failed.
You simply leapt into the middle of a discussion with *your* preconceived notions and narrative, and didn’t bother paying close attention to what I was saying and responding too. Typical Doom.
“Your attacks on Romney and Bain”
I didn’t attack Romney or Bain. I simply refuted a couple of incorrect assertions about Romney. Pay attention, Doom.
“aren’t going to change the enormous overall successes that they had. But keep shooting your spitballs at that battleship of success if it makes ya feel better.”
(laughing, pointing)
“Joe mama trying to tear down an American success story like Bain capital and all the companies they helped make successful. Sad.”
Don’t cry, Doomie. It’ll all be over soon.
ragnar danneskjold
October 4th, 2012
1:55 pm
Dear Black Guy @ 1:18, I heard that line attributed to Dennis Miller.
I respectfully disagree with one element of our host’s thesis, “at some point in his debate prep he decided to finally make the transition from “severely conservative” GOP primary candidate to general-election candidate” All of Mr. Romney’s winning arguments (as opposed to “sound bites”) sounded like they were taken from the chapter “John Galt Speaks.” The debate was won by a full-throated rebuke of leftism, the ferocity of which was seemingly outside the scope of Mr. Obama’s preparation. The real change in the evening was that, perhaps for the first time, Mr. Romney looked presidential, and Chauncey did not. POTUS will have to raise his game above sound bites and platitudes against the republican.
Best I recall, the 2008 debates were a push between Chauncey and Captain Queeg. Romney is no dunce.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:56 pm
Like virtually every other con here, empirical data just ain’t your deal. And why you are the perfect Bush voting neocon.
As usual, Jamvet is clueless and not very intelligent, what else is new…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
1:56 pm
High-School Teacher Threatens To Assault Student For Wearing Romney T-Shirt, Likens It To KKK Sheet
Racism has again raised its ugly head in this presidential election and it has filtered all the way down to the classroom level where, in Philadelphia, a high school student was threatened with assault by her geometry teacher last Friday for wearing a Mitt Romney t-shirt.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, last Friday was dress-down day for students at Charles Carroll High School in Port Richmond. One female student decided that she would show her support for Republican presidential candidate a Mitt Romney by wearing a Romney t-shirt.
That’s when things turned ugly for her in the “Democratic school.”
The teacher allegedly told the girl to take off the shirt, saying it was like wearing a Ku Klux Klan sheet. The teacher allegedly threatened to use a marker to cross out Romney’s name and that of Rep. Paul Ryan, his running mate. The teacher also allegedly tried to throw the student out of class.
The teacher also allegedly said that Carroll was “a Democratic” school.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
October 4th, 2012
1:56 pm
If I am going to be offered a Medicare Voucher, I want ALL of the money that I have paid into medicare refunded back to my IRA.
They BOTH suck
October 4th, 2012
1:57 pm
Romney was clearly the winner last night
When the EC projections change or not, we will know the impact……….
Peace
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
1:57 pm
Smile, Barrak Obama. You’re on Candid Camera!
Now where have I read a similar line recently?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 4th, 2012
1:58 pm
Madmax — “So Bain Capital is not a company?”
Didn’t say that. I said that Romney has no *industrial* experience.
“I believe his managerial experience there involved him hiring and firing people.”
Can you show me evidence of specific personnel decisions made by Romney, then? In the companies owned by Bain?
“Anybody who has worked in the consulting industry picks up a lot of business knowledge in the work that is done. If you don’t you won’t succeed.”
You apparently missed the first few posts in this exchange.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
1:58 pm
“How do DNC’s ‘pro-growth’ policies work? A quick review”
They Don’t!
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 4th, 2012
1:58 pm
As much as enjoyed last night, The reality is this President has a strong following from all areas and has the advantage of the electoral college still working to his favor as Ohio, Virgina and Fla all neck and neck, even tilting slightly for the president. The hill is much steeper for Romney than the President.
I see people who really root for him and want to believe him and like him……But He’s trying to turn a nice restaurant into a taco food truck and people don’t like it.
Paul
October 4th, 2012
1:59 pm
Anther crop of conservative bloggers in this afternoon, and just like the morning crowd, they’re all ignoring Romney’s cutting the floor out from under what they’ve been spouting on here.
The rich are doing just fine, the Job Creators are not getting a tax cut and the economy will grow just fine without one.
No cuts to education. Period. None.
Regulations are necessary for free markets to function effectively.
Instead, they continue on with ‘our guy won!!” posts.
Never, ever admitting that those positions would have had them branding Romney as a RINO, a liberal, a heretic, just a few months ago.
And they don’t even see (or refuse to even look at) what it says about the arguments they’ve been putting out.
But intellectual consistency has never really been an issue, has it?
kayaker 71
October 4th, 2012
1:59 pm
I really wonder how Bookman feels about this debacle. For the last two or more years, he has been so far in Bozo’s hip pocket that reality was a myth. Now, after all of this blind ideological support, this is what we end up with. That goes for the main stream media as well. They have sandbagged, glossed over the truth, left out countless things that the electorate should know and what do they have to show for it? A narcissistic buffoon who thinks that all this debate business is really below his station and that people like Romney shouldn’t even bother to call him to task because, for Christ’s sake, HE IS THE PRESIDENT. The media invests all of this effort into running interference for a pathetic loser and all we can do is shake our heads and wonder why.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 4th, 2012
2:00 pm
Obama will probably do better next time ……….. but oh my goodness if he doesn’t !
The pressure is on !
A TAT
October 4th, 2012
2:00 pm
Axelrod, speaking on a campaign conference call, made an appeal to reporters to make the points that Obama himself had failed to make in the debate
Does this WH not get it? The American people have little trust in the media as it is.
So what….is Obama now part of the WH’s “too big to fail plan?”
How “udderly” embarrassing!
He’s like the media’s prop or sump’n.
Thulsa Doom
October 4th, 2012
2:00 pm
“Come across like a Richard, and I’ll just deal it right back at you.”- Joe mama
Rejected. I didn’t come across like a Richard today. You did. And as you well know I’m quite capable of blog beating you down and making you submit- today is just your latest beatdown. Yesterday TC had to humiliate you and send you into your ususal semantics and tap dancing retreat. Its how you roll I guess. Hell you had to resort to the petty insults today in a nanosecond because once again you got taken to school Joe. You let your anger come across way too easily when you are being bested.
“Further proof that once you have to resort to insults you’ve already lost.”- Doom
“Denied; you have no proof at all.”
I’m afraid not. I posted your silly insult. That is proof right there. The fact that you choose to stubbornly ignore the proof posted right there in your face is not unusual.
” I am not obliged to argue the points you think I should be making.”-Joe mama
And apparently you are not obliged to make sense either.
“You need to pay attention the the arguments I’m actually making.”- JHM
I’m paying attention. You’re just not making any sense and rambling on about irrlevant nonsense.
” If you’re not going to respond substantively to my points and you’re going to instead go ‘yebbut this is what you libruls all think,’ -JHM
Rejected. I’ve responded and destroyed your points quite well. And that is what really has you upset.
“I don’t know why you’re going off on this tangent. It has little if any relevance to our conversation.”
“”Well, maybe you think that because you don’t actually appear to be paying attention to my argument, Doom.”-JHM
Again. Because its irrelevant. Pointless too.
“And you’re not dispelling any new economic knowledge that most of us don’t already know. But since you know so much about what constitutes *responsible growth* perhaps you can advise them and help them out a bit.”-Doom
Maybe so.-JHM
No maybe about it.
“With all due respect Joe please quit going off on tangents that have little if any relevance to what we speak.”
With all due respect, Doom, please stop trying to tell me what my argument is. And if you’re not going to pay attention to my arguments before you post in response to them, then please stop making a fuss.-JHM
Make a logical, relevant point and I will respond. Ramble off on some irrelevance just to hear yourself and you’re just wasting my time.
“You’re but one poster and I don’t have time to answer essays all day from one poster. Please keep it short if you wish to converse.”
I will post how I please, within the bounds set by our host. You are free to respond (or not) as you wish.-JHM
Yep. And you’ve been warned. Make sense, keep it relevant and to the point and I will school you in short order. Keep rambling and I won’t pay you no mind.
“Now to the point about regulation. I don’t know anyone who opposes common sense regulation. It is the reason why I will not eat farm raised seafood from southeast Asia. Our stuff is safe because of regulation. Theirs is not. Your meme that cons believe that all regulation is bad is not only inaccurate but tiresome.”
I raised no meme on that point. Once again, you misunderstood my point and then presumed that your incorrect understanding was exactly what I was trying to get across. It’s not.- Joe mama
My interpretation was quite accurate- that you’re rambling again about some irrelevant and pointless nonsense.
You posited that I was arguing that government and the citizenry were working at cross purposes (e.g. “Looks like you and big gubment know better than these *unsophisticated consumers* that you deride.”) I was *actually* trying to point out that government regulation can and does make the lives of the citizenry better and that regulation isn’t by definition a bad thing. For your part, you erroneously presumed that I was mocking “unsophisticated consumers” (I wasn’t — I was pointing out that they need and deserve this sort of help) and you erroneously mocked government by calling it “gubment” when it is, in fact, a key player in this dynamic.- Joe mama
There was nothing erroneous about it. You were mocking people you deem to be *unsophisticated consumers*. Its right there in black and white. And it shows your arrogance sir.
“Yes. But again. The point has little if any relevance to what we’re talking about.”
It’s got plenty of relevance. You just keep missing my point-JHM
Nope. You keep going off on a tangent that has little if any validity.
“And again. You’re not dispelling any new wisdom on anyone but are simply adding more stuff to read.”
Evelyn Wood is ready when you are, Doom. -JHM
Is that all ya got? Can’t respond to the fact that you’re just posting a bunch of meaningless crap?
“If you want to debate then fine. But keep it short to 1 or 2 points for the sake of brevity if you would. That way we can both address other posters and points as well.”
Work harder. Work faster. Try to keep up. -JHM
Why? So I can waste my time addressing rambling gobbledeegook that has no pertinence? No thanks. And don’t bother with any more essays.
Go ahead and get in the last word so that you can feel like you’ve one upped someone today.
getalife
October 4th, 2012
2:00 pm
I will stay with the one and only President Obama and not the new romney.
The new newer romney in the second debate should be fun to watch.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 4th, 2012
2:01 pm
This is what happens when the Jr. Varsity actually has to play the Varsity.
southpaw
October 4th, 2012
2:01 pm
Mr. Obama looked like Napoleon Dynamite in a boxing ring versus Rocky Balboa.
———————————————
Did you hear about the planned sequel to “Napoleon Dynamite?” The title is expected to be “Napoleon Blownaparte.”
Joe Hussein Mama
October 4th, 2012
2:02 pm
Ahem — “The teacher allegedly told the girl to take off the shirt, saying it was like wearing a Ku Klux Klan sheet. The teacher allegedly threatened to use a marker to cross out Romney’s name and that of Rep. Paul Ryan, his running mate. The teacher also allegedly tried to throw the student out of class.”
If this is true and if it happened in the way that you’ve recounted, then IMO that teacher should be out of a job.
However, I would like to see a link, please.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
2:02 pm
Philly student says teacher compared her Romney shirt to ‘wearing KKK shirt’…
drudgey spam.
Liberal Chicks are UGLY
October 4th, 2012
2:02 pm
Na na na-boo boo….
independent thinker
October 4th, 2012
2:05 pm
ROMNEY: But the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across America, telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have.That’s the wrong way to go. The private market and individual responsibility always work best.”"”"”"”
So Romney is now in favor of the individual mandate and will repeal free emergency room care -ie. EMTALA -Reagan’s federally unfunded mandate that creates a drain on private paying patients and insurers???????????Tell me that is so cons.Or was this just another lie?
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:06 pm
Why did Romney seem like a crazed clown on meth? Sedriously
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
2:06 pm
Making a point on voter enthusiasm as it relates to conservatives and conservative leaners:
Over 65 million television sets were tuned to the debate. I think that set a record for debates.
Between the 9:00 until 10:30 slot, FOX NEWS, yes FOX NEWS had the most viewers at 10.4 million, which was more than either NBC; CBS; ABC; CNN; or any other network, either broadcast or cable.
That is notable and when combined with the pathetic performance given by the president one could reasonably conclude this race is far from over, contrary to what the MSM has been peddling lately.
kayaker 71
October 4th, 2012
2:07 pm
Joe, 2:02,
News One for Black America…… Thursday, Oct 4, 2012. Google up “Philadelphia KKK shirt”……
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:07 pm
Just because one can be a good debator and a lying bully does not mean they are whom I want to vote for for President.
They BOTH suck
October 4th, 2012
2:08 pm
Thusla
Speaking of essays, you just typed a novel
You must admit the irony of when JHM has a post that is very long then you call him out about how long it was with a post that is as long and in some cases maybe longer than his post.
hhahahaahahha
Pretty funny
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
2:08 pm
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:06 pm
Why did Romney seem like a crazed clown on meth? Sedriously
Could it have been that you were standing at the basin facing the mirror?
Ken
October 4th, 2012
2:08 pm
We have forgotten what a real President sounds like. Thank you Mitt.
bob
October 4th, 2012
2:09 pm
george stephanopoulos called it a draw, what was he watching ?
getalife
October 4th, 2012
2:09 pm
independent thinker,
Not sure.
The new romney or the old romney?
Doubt the cons know but they are giddy today.
Rightwing Troll
October 4th, 2012
2:09 pm
“No cuts to education. Period. None.
Regulations are necessary for free markets to function effectively.
Instead, they continue on with ‘our guy won!!” posts.
Never, ever admitting that those positions would have had them branding Romney as a RINO, a liberal, a heretic, just a few months ago.
And they don’t even see (or refuse to even look at) what it says about the arguments they’ve been putting out.
But intellectual consistency has never really been an issue, has it?”
They don’t care… he steps up and sings an entirely NEW song last night, with completely new verses and completely new positions on things, and not a single one of them stops and goes hmmm… ???
Imagine how easy it’ll be for Mittens to roll the wingnut rubes once he’s in office?
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:09 pm
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1280&bih=675&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsu&tbnid=5F6juVZr6OP4bM:&imgrefurl=http://saltcitysinner.blogspot.com/2012/09/mitt-romney-steps-on-rake-rakes-it-in.html&docid=b5mJhXNHF66D9M&imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-afIK-fTm4zk/UFoy1h5iHtI/AAAAAAAAC8Q/bXIFfnqoSO0/s1600/romney-smirk-6.JPG&w=450&h=314&ei=w9BtUKGeH4v88QS3moGoDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=199&vpy=84&dur=2206&hovh=187&hovw=269&tx=83&ty=205&sig=118020766848398064226&page=1&tbnh=149&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0,i:121
Blue
October 4th, 2012
2:09 pm
Fred; are you REALLY calling someone else pathetic because they “couldn’t come up with an original insult”, just a couple of minutes after you were making fun of a guy’s name??? Yeah, saying “what’s a Mitt” is SO original and thought provoking. Kind of like “what is a Barack?” You’ll want to call me a poopy head now…because that’s the level on which you debate.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
2:10 pm
Well last night was surly a wake up call for President Obama and his handlers; however, the sad reality is that it is going to take more than one great debate to win the election given that most democRats are not very intelligent or free thinking.
DemocRats are usually of lower intelligence and easily fooled and led to the trough by their leaders as exampled by this typical democRat follower:
Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
2:10 pm
News One for Black America…… Thursday, Oct 4, 2012. Google up “Philadelphia KKK shirt”……
Or just go to drudgey, a one-stop shopping experience for all the rw talking points.
Rightwing Troll
October 4th, 2012
2:10 pm
“We have forgotten what a real President sounds like. Thank you Mitt.”
Which Mitt?
Paul
October 4th, 2012
2:10 pm
getalife 2pm
Last night Romney said those red-meat words again: “We have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in maintaining the strength of America’s military. ”
The moderator needs to ask Romney if we’re second to any country now. If not, are we close to second? If not, then why give the military $2 TRILLION for which they haven’t shown any need? If he thinks every program in the military is vital and can’t be cut? So (and this is one our cons on Jay’s blog won’t go near) he will keep the military biofuels program for ships and aircraft?
But people who get red meat don’t stop to think about what’s being tossed to them.
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:11 pm
Watch the debates with the sound off, and watch both of them. Romney comes across as a smirking, hyper, eye-blinking used car salesman. Obama comes across as tired and pissed off.
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
2:11 pm
If this is true and if it happened in the way that you’ve recounted, then IMO that teacher should be out of a job.
I agree, but then there may be a Union angle to deal with…
jobless
October 4th, 2012
2:11 pm
I need a job, I am experienced and skilled and willing to work very hard for a company that will employ me. I am one of many people who is seeking employment. I am networking and I would
appreciate any assistance that I may receive. Unfortunately, we have a president that is overwhelmed and too upset that his Anniversary is being interupted!
TaxPayer
October 4th, 2012
2:12 pm
Based on Mitt’s stated policy positions from the “debate”, I believe President Obama is now farther right of center than Mitt is.
getalife
October 4th, 2012
2:12 pm
President Obama’s campaign said he won because he lied.
I remember when blatantly lying was losing.
I guess that changed.
A TAT
October 4th, 2012
2:12 pm
’twasn’t me you asked, but…
Philly Student Told to Lose Romney T-Shirt or Get Out
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Romney-High-School-T-Shirt-Flap-172627871.html
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:13 pm
So, jobless, you want to stay that way? We’re right back into a recession again (or worse) with Robme at the helm following Bush era failed policies.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Or just go to Jay Bookman’s blog; a one-stop shopping experience for all the Leftwing talking points.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
2:13 pm
Good news for Romney: he has moved up to a 3.1% chance of winning from a 2.2% chance in Nate Silver’s Now-cast.
Heh, heh, heh.
USMC
October 4th, 2012
2:14 pm
“An unprepared, unfocused Obama pays the price”–Jay Bookman
Simply, The Emperor Has No Clothes. Nuff said.
Regnad Kcin
October 4th, 2012
2:14 pm
Interesting how Romney moved to the center, largely co-opting Obama’s positions on taxes (no tax cuts for the rich, protect the middle class), education (no cuts), healthcare (I’m not sure what part of the ACA he’s against, since his campaign says he’ll cover pre-existing conditions).
Obama sure didn’t expect “vote for me, I’m just like Obama!”
Paul
October 4th, 2012
2:14 pm
Rightwing Troll
“Imagine how easy it’ll be for Mittens to roll the wingnut rubes once he’s in office?”
That is, quite frankly, what causes a lot of Obama supporters a bit of comfort when contemplating what might be if Romney won.
The thought that he may turn out closer to their views on many issues than to the views of the Party that put him into office.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 4th, 2012
2:14 pm
Doom — “Rejected. I didn’t come across like a Richard today.”
Denied. You did. And you got it dealt right back at you.
“You did. And as you well know I’m quite capable of blog beating you down and making you submit”
(laughing, pointing)
Sonny, if you *ever* manage to do that — even once — I’ll leave for good.
“today is just your latest beatdown.”
Punkin, what you term a “beatdown” isn’t much different from me having to change your diaper while you’re squalling and pitching a fit. (giggling)
“Yesterday TC had to humiliate you and send you into your ususal semantics and tap dancing retreat.”
Yesterday, you and TC both got embarrassed because your collective reading comprehension is so poor.
“Hell you had to resort to the petty insults today in a nanosecond because”
Because you started off with them yourself, Doom.
“once again you got taken to school Joe.”
And once again, your delusions of superiority mislead you.
“You let your anger come across way too easily when you are being bested.”
Oh, Doomie, you’re too CUTE for me to ever be angry at you. (laughing)
“I’m afraid not. I posted your silly insult. That is proof right there.”
Do you not even read the stuff you post? (laughing)
“The fact that you choose to stubbornly ignore the proof posted right there in your face is not unusual.”
Yes, I posted the insult you began with and which I responded to. It’s not surprising that you would ignore it.
“And apparently you are not obliged to make sense either.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“I’m paying attention. You’re just not making any sense and rambling on about irrlevant nonsense.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Rejected. I’ve responded and destroyed your points quite well. And that is what really has you upset.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Again. Because its irrelevant. Pointless too.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“No maybe about it.”
Then maybe I shall.
“Make a logical, relevant point and I will respond. Ramble off on some irrelevance just to hear yourself and you’re just wasting my time.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Yep. And you’ve been warned.”
Bring it then, tough guy. (giggling)
“Make sense, keep it relevant and to the point and I will school you in short order. Keep rambling and I won’t pay you no mind.”
Pull that trigger then, tough guy. Throw me in that briar patch. (laughing, pointing)
“My interpretation was quite accurate- that you’re rambling again about some irrelevant and pointless nonsense.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“There was nothing erroneous about it. You were mocking people you deem to be *unsophisticated consumers*.
Lying Doom lies again. I’ve already clarified my comments, and your interpretation today is — just as your interpretation was yesterday — incorrect.
“Its right there in black and white. And it shows your arrogance sir.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Nope. You keep going off on a tangent that has little if any validity.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Is that all ya got? Can’t respond to the fact that you’re just posting a bunch of meaningless crap?”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Why? So I can waste my time addressing rambling gobbledeegook that has no pertinence? No thanks. And don’t bother with any more essays.”
If you don’t understand me, then you should ask for clarification instead of presuming or instead of being a Richard about it. That would be the polite and adult thing to do.
“Go ahead and get in the last word so that you can feel like you’ve one upped someone today.”
Doesn’t matter if I do; you’re just going to bring it up again anyway. (laughing, pointing)
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:15 pm
Nate Silver has already forecasted a tightening of the race via the debates and still has Obama at around an 85% chance of winning via Electoral College. Sorry for the false hopes and expectations, cons.
td
October 4th, 2012
2:15 pm
I have been watching MSNBC all day to see what the spin for the Obama a$$ kicking will be put out. I have also been on this blog and have really noticed that we have some bloggers that do not have original thoughts but just spread the progressive talking heads on that networks points (almost word for word in some cases).
getalife
October 4th, 2012
2:16 pm
Paul,
mitt bullied the moderator but if he wants to increase military spending by 2 trillion, he is not serious about cutting spending. Of course, the newer romney can say something else and media will call that winning.
td
October 4th, 2012
2:16 pm
Regnad Kcin
October 4th, 2012
2:14 pm
Interesting how Romney moved to the center, largely co-opting Obama’s positions on taxes (no tax cuts for the rich, protect the middle class), education (no cuts), healthcare (I’m not sure what part of the ACA he’s against, since his campaign says he’ll cover pre-existing conditions).
Right off of MSNBC
kayaker 71
October 4th, 2012
2:16 pm
Kamchak,
They even have a video interview with the student and her mother and the student produces and shows the shirt in question. The teacher apparently has been transferred to another classroom while the school investigates the allegation. It if walks like a duck……
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
2:16 pm
“Or just go to Jay Bookman’s blog;
a one-stop shopping experience for all the Leftwing talking pointsa place where the same drudgey spam is posted over, and over and over and over…..”I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 4th, 2012
2:17 pm
Well I be damned. All of Europe in a flux over Romney’s success last night due to them privately cheering for the President. Why you say. His views are more in line with big government, big taxes and entitlements and fit their model……….Hell, that ought to be enough to throw him out.
Mick
October 4th, 2012
2:17 pm
Yes, after ONE debate, obama should pack his bags and go home, concede defeat, the mittsiah is the one, why hasn’t anyone noticed this before? Oh..yes…because now he is vying to be the santa president? Everything for everybody…what’s that, how is he going to pay for it all? Details, details, just vote him in then he’ll let you know. (sukkers)
Jm
October 4th, 2012
2:19 pm
Politico: “that Obama will not be seen in the next debate”
Etch a sketch / flip flop alert
Politico: “the freisty Obama returns in Denver” (aided by the ubiquitous teleprompter)
kayaker 71
October 4th, 2012
2:19 pm
I’ll bet Hugo Chavez is disappointed.
Steve
October 4th, 2012
2:19 pm
Cons – how do you justify voting for someone who doesn’t have a consistent stance on ANYTHING? Wears magic underwear? Was more liberal than Obama just a decade ago? Who is sold out to the wealthy (and you’re not wealthy), and flat out lies about pretty much everything? Obama is no hero but by comparison to this clown he is.
getalife
October 4th, 2012
2:19 pm
“Imagine how easy it’ll be for Mittens to roll the wingnut rubes once he’s in office?”
You will see the cons march lock step and be very patriotic.
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
2:21 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
October 4th, 2012
2:02 pm
However, I would like to see a link, please.
I couldn’t find it on The Drudge Report but here it is:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/Romney-High-School-T-Shirt-Flap-172627871.html
Regnad Kcin
October 4th, 2012
2:22 pm
“Regnad Kcin
October 4th, 2012
2:14 pm
Interesting how Romney moved to the center, largely co-opting Obama’s positions on taxes (no tax cuts for the rich, protect the middle class), education (no cuts), healthcare (I’m not sure what part of the ACA he’s against, since his campaign says he’ll cover pre-existing conditions).
Right off of MSNBC”
TD – I don’t watch tv news – these are my own thoughts.
However, if these same thoughts are occurring to others independently, maybe there’s some validity there?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 4th, 2012
2:22 pm
I have also been on this blog and have really noticed that we have some bloggers that do not have original thoughts but just spread the
progressive talking heads on that networks pointsdrudgey spam (almost word for word in some cases).kayaker 71
October 4th, 2012
2:22 pm
And I wonder how that Muslim Brotherhood thug from Egypt will react to a Romney victory?
USMC
October 4th, 2012
2:22 pm
Samantha Pawlucy, Philadelphia High School Student, Told By Teacher To Lose Romney Shirt, Likens To KKK …
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/samantha-pawlucy-philadel_n_1939632.html
The Leftwing Socialists are freaking out after last night’s “Obama Failure”.
(more “Huffy” spam, for Kamceck’s feminine side)
A TAT
October 4th, 2012
2:23 pm
Kamchak:
Would you please show Joe Hussein Mama how to do the (laughing) emoticon so he doesn’t have to type (laughing) followed by a smiling emoticon?
Ahem
October 4th, 2012
2:23 pm
kayaker 71
October 4th, 2012
2:19 pm
I’ll bet Hugo Chavez is disappointed
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Not the Clintons though. Hillary and Billary want Oblunda to lose knowing that Romney won’t be able to clean up the mess left behind fast enough, which sets Hillary up pretty nice for 2016.