An unprepared, unfocused Obama pays the price

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Remember the classic nightmare in which you show up unprepared for a test in a class that you completely forgot you had?

That’s what Barack Obama looked like last night. From the opening question, he came off as unprepared, unsteady and almost uninterested in the task at hand. He found himself on defense throughout the debate, and when opportunities arose, he failed to recognize them.

As I noted last night during the live blog, Obama seemed overconfident coming in, as if he had underestimated both his opponent and the occasion. By the end of the evening, overconfidence should no longer have been a problem. As CNN noted, 67 percent of those polled who had watched the debate declared Mitt Romney the victor.

“No presidential candidate has topped 60 percent in that question since it was first asked in 1984,” CNN polling director Keating Holland pointed out.

And a good part of that was caused by Mitt Romney. He came in hungry, needing a win, and it showed in his focus and preparation. He got the better of almost every exchange, in part because at some point in his debate prep he decided to finally make the transition from “severely conservative” GOP primary candidate to general-election candidate.

The new Romney endorsed regulation of business. He dismissed tax cuts as an economic policy. He embraced his own Massachusetts health-care plan. He talked of compromise and working together. A surprised Obama wasn’t ready to handle this latest Romney incarnation and repeatedly failed to tie the moderate, genial GOP candidate on that stage in Denver to the GOP candidate on the campaign trail.

Will the outcome of this debate, the first of three between Obama and Romney, create a ripple in the polls? It almost certainly will. I doubt it will cost Obama his lead, but it should shrink it and introduce doubt in many minds that had not previously doubted. Romney had the night that he needed to keep his funders happy and his base engaged.

The next debate, covering foreign and domestic policy in a townhall forum, will be Oct. 16 at Hofstra University in New York. I suspect that they’ll be scrambling at the White House this morning to clear more time from the president’s calendar for prep work between now and then. He can’t afford a repeat of what happened last night in Denver.

– Jay Bookman

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TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:09 am

Is everyone more confident that they know what Mitt stands for now. :lol:

Donovan

October 4th, 2012
7:11 am

67%? You mean to tell me that 33% of you Liberals actually thought that Obama Bin Lying won this debate?

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:12 am

Yeah for sure. Mitt whipped the President’s butt. I liked the way they joked around and were polite to each other though.

What’s funny is that in my opinion the moderator gave Obama more time and was more “critical” of Romney, yet Romney was for sure the “winner.”

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:13 am

Donovan

October 4th, 2012
7:11 am

67%? You mean to tell me that 33% of you Liberals actually thought that Obama Bin Lying won this debate?
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This lying vitriol is why the Republicans won’t win. America is tired of your talk radio masters and the puppets like you spewing your lies and hate everywhere.

Call It Like It Is

October 4th, 2012
7:17 am

Well I think I will just set here drink my coffee and read the excuses the bookanites are going to post. Should be entertaining at the least. Let it begin

Drudge

October 4th, 2012
7:17 am

Oh Fred, what lies did you hear last night? I’ll get another cup of coffee while you write some down. Basically, Romney won on facts and honesty – there was no hatred or vitriol in the debate, it was very civil, Obama was not prepared and the subjects got away from him.

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:18 am

Mitt. The extreme conservative or the moderate? Only Mitt’s hairdresser’s hidden camera knows for sure. :lol:

Classic "deer in the headlights"...

October 4th, 2012
7:19 am

“…Bewildered and lost without his teleprompter, President Obama flailed all around the debate stage last night. He was stuttering, nervous and petulant. It was like he had been called in front of the principal after goofing around for four years and blowing off all his homework.

Not since Jimmy Carter faced Ronald Reagan has the U.S. presidency been so embarrassingly represented in public. Actually, that’s an insult to Jimmy Carter.

The split screen was most devastating. Mitt Romney spoke forthrightly, with carefully studied facts and details at the ready. He looked right at the president and accused him of being miles out of his depth.

Mr. Obama? His eyes were glued to his lectern, looking guilty and angry and impatient with all the vagaries of Democracy. This debate was seriously chaffing him…”

Read more: HURT: Obama the debater: Making Jimmy Carter look awesome – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/3/hurt-obama-debater-making-jimmy-carter-look-awesom/#ixzz28KNUV2Eh

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:21 am

I didn’t watch the debate but I heard Mitt is now a moderate, in public.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
7:21 am

Romney definitely came out on top in the debate. However, if Obama is smart, he now has an understanding of how Romney wants to play the game and could use it against him in the next 2 debates. I’m anticipating a much more lively round 2.

Screwball

October 4th, 2012
7:22 am

Relax, incumbents always get ambushed in the first debate.
I say this as a pleased Romney supporter.
Obama will recover, the people who write the stuff for his teleprompter will prep him better for the next two debate.
But the economy and jobs and “the middle class” etc were supposed to be Obama’s strengths. How did Obama not even mention Bain in 90 minutes.
Maybe he was too focused on their anniversary.

ron

October 4th, 2012
7:23 am

Note to Oblama: Private sector leaders like Romney work very hard and prepare very well. They don’t play golf all the time or use teleprompters in the board room. Of course, your abysmal record was pretty easy for him to prepare for

JDW

October 4th, 2012
7:24 am

@Taxpayer…”Is everyone more confident that they know what Mitt stands for now”

Uhhh…no….so would the real Romney please stand up…

Is it the moderate MA Governor…so has he been lying for the last 18 months?

Is it the Right Wing nut we have seen for the last 18 months…so was he lying last night?

Is it the moderate GOP candidate, still math challenged, but now a compassionate conservative…so has he been lying all these years?

Only one thing is for sure, at some point he has been lying.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:25 am

Drudge

October 4th, 2012
7:17 am

Oh Fred, what lies did you hear last night?
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And where on this blog did you read me say he lied?

Verbal Kint

October 4th, 2012
7:25 am

Call it like it is – I just sat down myself with a cup of java and looking forward to the range of excuses from the regular crew in here..Should be fun.

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:26 am

Did Mitt say that the wealthy need to pay more taxes instead of less taxes or did he say they just needed to pay the same taxes or perhaps less taxes and how much will the deficit and debt be reduced as a result. What did Mitt say anyway. Did he really say we need regulations. How does that affect his thoughts regarding free markets. Did Mitt mention the 47% that pay no taxes. :roll:

Independent

October 4th, 2012
7:26 am

Obama played the role of Bobby in the Denver Deliverance. Jay’s comment of “an unprepared, unfocused Obama”, described not just the debate but his handling of the economy over the last four years.

stands for decibels

October 4th, 2012
7:26 am

Basically, Romney won on facts and honesty

I didn’t see much of it, but I think about two minutes in to my viewing I was given the usual GOP BS about “cutting 700 billion from Medicaid” and the death panels nonsense.

and of course lies about the evil green energy initiatives, which they’re already hacking apart

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/fact-check-green-energy/index.html

and that’s just the first of many to come, I’m sure.

SwamiDave

October 4th, 2012
7:26 am

Last night was embarrassingly bad for an incumbent President. The more frustrating realization for Democrats may be how Romney just destroyed the image that they’ve spent millions in ads to create! Moment that stood out was Obama making a joke about how “busy Romney will be on his 1st day”. If the Obama campaign does not right their ship quick; that joke could be on Obama himself!

-SD

Simple Truths

October 4th, 2012
7:27 am

The media spent days lowering the bar for the President. He still missed the bar.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
7:29 am

For the Left Wingers, just remember that John Kerry won the first debate in 2004. I’m sure you remember how that election turned out.

Brosephus™

October 4th, 2012
7:30 am

I didn’t listen to the entire debate as I felt sleep was more important, but Romney must have really impressed the crowd to come out with such overwhelming approval. I am glad for him. That must mean that he didn’t sell his soul to the far right last night. I’ll go back and look for video later on today to see if that’s the case.

I have one question about one of Romney’s points on his tax plan, but other than that one question, he did seem better prepared to discuss his ideas than he ever has before. Obama appeared to be trying to think on his feet, which is never, ever a good strategy for a debate.

Oh well, one infomercial down and three to go.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:30 am

It’s funny how after one debate the hard core Republican fanatics are acting like he changed from Clark Kent into Superman lol.

Oh And Drudge: Brush up on your reading comprehension skills while you are selecting your next new name for your next post.

Mick

October 4th, 2012
7:31 am

If you just watched the debate, shut out the pundits, then you came away with two guys meandering around a point and disagreeing with each other. No earth shattering new information was presented. I still do not trust mitt romney, it seems he will say anything to become president, how can you believe what he says???

Ken

October 4th, 2012
7:32 am

Beat him like a drum. GO mitt !!!!!!!!!!!!
Go spin libbys.

Marty Huggins'

October 4th, 2012
7:32 am

TaxPayer
October 4th, 2012
7:21 am

“I didn’t watch the debate but I heard Mitt is now a moderate, in public.”

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Well if you actually paid attention to how he governed in Mass you would already know he was a moderate.

Always better to judge politicians by their actions and not just their words.

O'Really

October 4th, 2012
7:33 am

So, I’m disappointed in Obama’s performance/delivery and failure to counter when he obviously could have. He tends to give a phrase for counterpunch but does not spell out for the general public what those phrases are backed up with as he and his backers understand from months of hearing them. A debate is not a place for summary statements. That said, I still support his positions and oppose those that Romney has and still does hold.

ron

October 4th, 2012
7:34 am

Yes, the unprepared, stammering goof is a true picture of who is occupying the Oval Office. Without
his speechmakers and teleprompter have fashioned him as cool and slick. Strip that away and you have what we saw last night. No wonder the country is such a mess.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:34 am

Brosephus™

October 4th, 2012
7:30 am

I didn’t listen to the entire debate as I felt sleep was more important, but Romney must have really impressed the crowd to come out with such overwhelming approval.
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Dude he was awesome. He channeled Bill Clinton for one night lol. He was warn and personable and the words rolled off his tongue like pure honey. He never complained when the moderator gave the President more time or cut into his time. It was masterful.

He didn’t convince me, but he was masterful. Unlike the Fanatical far rightwing talk radio indoctrinated nutcases, it takes more than pretty melodic words to sway me………….

stands for decibels

October 4th, 2012
7:34 am

remember that John Kerry won the first debate in 2004.

and he didn’t just win (whatever “winning” actually means–it’s not like one guy is literally on the canvas getting an eight-count during these these things, after all), Kerry had people wondering what was wrong with Bush.

Has everyone forgotten that weird frowny-face Bush wore, seemingly throughout the entire debate? How stiff he was?

I could write a few grafs about the likely effect of living in the White House bubble that contributes to such poor showings, but I think most people already know about that. and I think it certainly applies here.

I’ll also say that I’m sure Jimmy Carter wishes that he’d done three, and not just one, debate with Reagan.

tacpilot

October 4th, 2012
7:36 am

I believe the reason for the President’s lack luster performance is due to the fact that the news media, the View, Letterman, 60 minutes, etc, have not asked him the tough questions. I think Univision is the only new organization that asked tough questions, and the President did not do very well during that interview as well… Truth be told, the President has received numerous free passes…

As many times that Romney has been blasted by the news media,,, he was prepared……

TiredOfIt

October 4th, 2012
7:36 am

How will Willard’s base handle the moderate we saw last night. He seemed at odds with the ideas of his VP? President Obama gave a lack luster performance and did not call out several of Willard’s lies.

Paul

October 4th, 2012
7:37 am

That’s going to be some multiscenario debate prep: “here’s what we say if Romney says he believes A. Or B. Or C. Or D.” But they can likely save some time by just prepping against a moderate, middle of the road, pre-Tea Pary Republican candidate.

“The new Romney endorsed regulation of business. He dismissed tax cuts as an economic policy. He embraced his own Massachusetts health-care plan. He talked of compromise and working together. A surprised Obama wasn’t ready to handle this latest Romney incarnation”

Last night was like watching the Pope campaigning for the leadership post of the Southern Baptist Convention and saying to his opponent “Who said anything about the Virgin Mary? I never said I believe in original sin. Anybody who wants to call themselves a minister can be a minister. What’s the problem? Vote for me!”

Ken

October 4th, 2012
7:37 am

Where’s my teleprompter ?????????????

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:40 am

Off topic: What in the hell is a “Mitt” anyway? I mean it’s better than Willard, but come on. What were his parents thinking? I hope he just one time went up to his dad and kicked him square in the ass and said, ‘Thanks for the money, but this is for the stupid moniker you gave me.”

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:40 am

How would Mitt’s cap on tax deductions affect Mitt’s charitable contributions?

TBone

October 4th, 2012
7:41 am

Obasma’s preparation was on par with his preparation to hold the office he now holds. No wonder this country is in such a mess and don’t give me that line about it’s Bush’s fault; that won’t fly any longer. Vote for the MORMON!

cobbmom

October 4th, 2012
7:41 am

I don’t know about anyone else but I sat with an ipad and fact checked their statements during the debate. Mitt Romney definitely won it, but most of his prize winning statements were lies according to politifact and the ABCNews fact check. It would be nice in debates if both parties had access to real time fact checking to actually call the other out on lies. I also didn’t like that both of them referred to “studies”, a study said this and a study said that without actually naming the specific study. I actually check the source of information before believing it. If a source is a right wing or a left wing group I don’t believe anything they say as complete fact, both sides skew data and take comments out of context to serve their own purpose. Having said this and being a person with pre-existing health care issues I will vote for Obama because he has a health care plan for me while Romney will only say he has a better plan but is unable to give details. Mitt, Type A personalities such as myself like DETAILS.

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 4th, 2012
7:42 am

There was a debate?

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:42 am

Ken

October 4th, 2012
7:37 am

Where’s my teleprompter ?????????????
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Wow. Your talk radio puppet masters stole the teleprompter mantra that the left wingers hung on Bush and YOU act like it’s something new? Don’t republicans have ANY original thoughts? You can’t even come up with original insults. How pathetic.

Ken

October 4th, 2012
7:42 am

Tax Payer, Joe B can styill give his $300 a year !!!

Marty Huggins'

October 4th, 2012
7:43 am

JDW
October 4th, 2012
7:24 am

Usually a better idea to go on the record of the politician as they govern.

That goes for all politicians, they all lie to some degree or the other.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:43 am

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:40 am

How would Mitt’s cap on tax deductions affect Mitt’s charitable contributions?
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If he truly follows his Mormon religion, and I think he does doesn’t he, then it won’t effect it at all.

JKL2

October 4th, 2012
7:43 am

Jay- From the opening question, he came off as unprepared, unsteady and almost uninterested in the task at hand

ROFL! Guess you haven’t seen him the last four years. Nothing new here.

Vote obama: It was the teleprompter’s fault!

A Simple Man

October 4th, 2012
7:44 am

It’s much easier, if your Romney, to prepare. Obama has never had to defend himself or a record. With the media, he’s never even had to explain himself. He was called out and, due to his arrogance, he didn’t prepare.

As for why no 47% comments, I can only guess it’s because of the Obama videos out there he would rather not discuss. Bringing up the 47% opens a can of worms for him. I am Romney was actually hoping he would bring those up. It might be in poor taste for Romney to bring it up, but if the President opens the door…

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:44 am

What sort of compromises would Mitt make with the Congressional Republicans.

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
7:45 am

Would Mitt give me a tax cut or not.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
7:46 am

I did find it interesting how many times the candidates agreed that they agreed with each other.

Jay

October 4th, 2012
7:46 am

How would Mitt’s cap on tax deductions affect Mitt’s charitable contributions?

That’s an interesting question. If the charitable deduction is capped at $17,000, as Mitt appears to propose, rich Americans suddenly have a lot less incentive to make major philanthropical contributions.

A Simple Man

October 4th, 2012
7:47 am

Oh, as for the so-called fact check services, give me a break. Most of those are liberal biased and say things are “wrong” when they don’t agree with opinion.

As Debbie Wasserman Schultz said when caught lying on behalf of Obama, “It doesn’t matter.”

Peadawg

October 4th, 2012
7:47 am

“The new Romney endorsed regulation of business. He dismissed tax cuts as an economic policy. He embraced his own Massachusetts health-care plan. He talked of compromise and working together.”

He had the etch-a-sketch going before the debate. How does anyone believe a word this man says? He changes his position more than I change my underwear.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:47 am

Butch: I noticed that as well. They agreed and were very cordial to each other as they swapped lies :mrgreen:

Verbal Kint

October 4th, 2012
7:48 am

fred: “Off topic: What in the hell is a “Mitt” anyway? I mean it’s better than Willard, but come on. What were his parents thinking? I hope he just one time went up to his dad and kicked him square in the ass and said, ‘Thanks for the money, but this is for the stupid moniker you gave me.”

Yeah…that’s original.

clem

October 4th, 2012
7:48 am

having one party rule is nuts…..the house is foursquare repub, the senate because of fillibuster is a wash, and thus the prez needs to stay democratic; otherwise the already rich and powerful will dominate that much more. it’s like telling alabama they can have more football scholarships than other sec schools

Citizen of the World

October 4th, 2012
7:49 am

While I agree that President Obama could have been stronger in the debate, Romney’s foaming at the mouth, smarmy approach did not play well with me. I also felt like Romney was trying to hammer Obama, when here was his chance to talk to us.

Romney seemed like the fast-out-of-the-gate hare and Obama seemed like the slow and steady tortoise, and we know how that one ends.

GT

October 4th, 2012
7:49 am

There has got to be a strategy here. One of the things I have notice about Obama is he picks up on the full picture quicker than even the pundits, he never does things on a whim. Even I knew Romney was not going into this thing with the Confederate flag he was waving in the Republican debates. It is the first time Romney has led the discussion instead of being the sniper. Let watch this play out. If there was one debate Romney should have won this one was it on the economy. What I hate is he has done it still not detailing what he will do, and getting away with major flip flops. Romney also took control of the talking points with no respect to the moderator, while O stared at the moderator waiting his overdue time to speak.

Notice in the Republican debate Romney let the other candidate have the lead and being the snipers. Every week there were dramatic swings in the polls as the bum of the week would be leading the polls. At the end Romney out spent most of them, and gathered in his votes to become the candidate. Somewhere in this Obama does a Romney to Romney, letting him led early and then the press drags down Romney, and O comes out ahead.

AUfan

October 4th, 2012
7:49 am

Barack Obama killed Osama bin Laden. Romney promised to kill Big Bird. As for the rest, it is pretty easy to win on style when you make up facts on the spot and throw out all your previous positions. That being said, Jay is right. The president needs to call Mr. Etch a Sketch out on his flip flops & empty platitudes. His fairy tales that he can wave his privileged silver spoon and we can all eat cake and lose weight and “Trust me”, I’ve got a secret plan should not cut it.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:50 am

Oh, as for the so-called fact check services, give me a break. Most of those are liberal biased and say things are “wrong” when they don’t agree with opinion.

You know it’s really sad how delusional you talk radio/FOX news fanatics are. ANYTHING that deviates from what FOX or the Talk Radio lies are is “run by libruls so what do you think they will say.”

Pray tell, have you any examples to share?

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
7:51 am

and his base engaged.

I doubt that. He definitely will get some kudos from the moneychangers for his performance, but “Romney 5.0, Moderate Edition” is not someone who will energize the base at all. He might sway some undecided MEN (the women seemed to like many of Obama’s answers better).

Relax, incumbents always get ambushed in the first debate.

This is true. The visiting team always plates a few runs in the first debate. Then the home team comes up to bat. I expect the exchanges to be a lot sharper in the Town Hall debate. And I expect the crowd will ask questions that target Romney’s weaknesses (questions about where he hides his money, why he hates gays, etc.) and knock Romney off his game plan.

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 4th, 2012
7:51 am

From what I can gather, I guess Romney is the master-debater.
But he will never be in Obama’s league of Master-Race-Baitor.

Marty Huggins'

October 4th, 2012
7:51 am

Paul
October 4th, 2012
7:37 am

Your analogy would only hold true if the Pope had indeed been a southern baptist at some point.

Again each and every politician stretches the truth of reality to their base.

Always a better idea to judge politicians off of their record and no their words.

Who Romney was during the debate last night is exactly who he was when he was Govenor.

BOB FROM ACCOUNT TEMPS

October 4th, 2012
7:52 am

at some point the obama camp will float the idea that the potus was preoccupied with some grave, urgent national security issue and was unable to give the debate his full attention.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:52 am

“Yeah…that’s original.”

Why thank you. Something different than your usual fare of talk radio and FOX eh. It’s SO original that you couldn’t answer my question. I’m not surprised………. Your talk radio gods haven’t told you what it means……..

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
7:53 am

Oh, as for the so-called fact check services, give me a break. Most of those are liberal biased and say things are “wrong” when they don’t agree with opinion.

Sure, because “facts” are just a liberal construct anyway. :roll:

People who embrace falsehoods get what they deserve in life.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
7:54 am

Fred – “They agreed and were very cordial to each other as they swapped lies”

LOL. :) Again, I definitely think Romney came out on top, but I was surprised at how many times he backed up Obama policies. Instead of pushing the repeal of Obamacare, as he’s done since the primaries, he just said that he liks a lot of whats in it and will only change what he feels is wrong. A far cry from repeal. Also, his comments on taxes and regulation were just a shade removed from what Obama has said. It was like Romney was trying to say ” Hey, I’m not that different from Obama, but I’m just different enough that you should vote for me”.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
7:55 am

at some point the obama camp will float the idea that the potus was preoccupied with some grave, urgent national security issue and was unable to give the debate his full attention.

Nah. Can’t use that when you’re able to roast Trump while waiting for word on bin Laden’s death.

stands for decibels

October 4th, 2012
7:55 am

at some point the obama camp will float the idea that the potus was preoccupied with some grave, urgent national security issue and was unable to give the debate his full attention.

which is, of course, a totally unrealistic possibility. I mean, it’s not like there’s usually grave national security issues being discussed on any given day at the White House, or incredibly important policy decisions that need to be made.

(As opposed to the weighty demands of a guy who has been a full-time campaigner for the past 5-plus years.)

J. Leher

October 4th, 2012
7:55 am

AUfan

October 4th, 2012
7:49 am
Barack Obama killed Osama bin Laden. Romney promised to kill Big Bird.

FACT CHECK: OBAMA GAVE THE OK TO KILL BIN LADEN, ROMNEY COULD ACTUALLY KILL BIG BIRD.

Doggone/GA

October 4th, 2012
7:56 am

“he just said that he liks a lot of whats in it and will only change what he feels is wrong.”

Did he ever bother to say what those “wrong” things are?

Brosephus™

October 4th, 2012
7:56 am

Fred

Thanks for the synopsis. I’ll have to do some video review. I see the fact checkers were quite busy last night and this morning in their reviews.

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Peadawg: He had the etch-a-sketch going before the debate. How does anyone believe a word this man says? He changes his position more than I change my underwear.

So, you’re saying Romney shook on stage last night? That could be the case as well. If he came out like the moderate that I’m hearing about, I’m sure the far right will let us hear about it in some form.

Bill Orvis White

October 4th, 2012
7:56 am

The “president” simply showed “his” true colors – that he is incredibly incompetent without “his” TelePrompTer and/or socialistic support staff like sour grapes, mad and mean Stephanie Cutter.

The honorable Governor Willard “Mitt” Romney properly displayed his business acumen and his love of country, family and free markets.

The choice here is clear, folks. Do you want a real man and leader who WILL create 12 million new jobs or do you wish to have a failed “leader” who was clearly never prepared for any job that “he” ever held.

The fact is that this installed-”president” is the worst “leader” that this once-free nation has ever had in its entire history. There is plenty of time to save the Republic and that is voting for the honorable Governor Willard “Mitt” Romney and his honorable running mate Rep. Paul D. Ryan. Please remind your undecided family members and friends to do the right thing and vote for common sense and fiscal responsibility on November 6. This is really a no-brainer folks! DO THE RIGHT THING!

I’m encourage to see that the honorable Governor Romney is now well ahead of the failed president and is CLEARLY ON THE PATH TO VICTORY!

Amen,
Bill

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
7:56 am

It was like Romney was trying to say ” Hey, I’m not that different from Obama, but I’m just different enough that you should vote for me”.

Which is where the problem with his base will come in the next few days. His base are going to start wondering who they’re buying… and so will people who listen to what he said three days ago in his stump speech and what he said last night… and expect some ads to that effect to go up today.

Mary Elizabeth

October 4th, 2012
7:57 am

Before I had mentioned body language. The first glimpse I had of the president walking out on stage, I did not think he was confident enough, not that he was overconfident. He looked tired. And I imagine that he was. That is no excuse, just an observation.

I, also, think that after what he has done to save this nation from a major depression, and to try to bring respect back for the U.S. from abroad through a diplomatic style, while constantly battling those who would not be content until he was out of office, that the debate seemed almost frivolous in his mind. I am not saying that that is how he should have approached the debate. His answers were not embarrassing to hear in terms of content; he was still trying to be rationale and persuade to some degree, but his energy (and therefore his focus) was way, way down. It was almost as if he were thinking, “If the American people cannot see what I have tried to do for this nation and its people, how will turning up the ‘fighting spirit’ in the “show” of a debate convince them?” Moreover, he probably did not have the hours on end, or even the inclination, to spend hours practicing debating with a sparring partner, as Romney had done, when pressing presidential decisions were at hand for him to contend with daily. When you think about it, his game was not up at the Democratic Convention. It was Clinton who had the pizzazz there, not Obama. Obama has worked very hard in substantive ways for this nation, he has been constantly embattled, and his energy and spirits are probably lower than they have been in some time. He needs a good rest, imo.

Whatever the reasons, he did lose the debate. I am not sure his frame of mind will rise to the same level of “fighting for the job” that Romney has. If that is the case, and if Romney wins this election, then “fait accompli” for those ultraconservative forces that have set up a huge deficit for their president, a President Romney it appears, to come in for the “kill of the beast of government.” Then, we will see an America without a substantive social safety net, in which money is king, and those who have wealth not only will rule but will be valued as worthy. A greater harshness and judgment without reflection toward others, especially those less fortunate, will prevail. Those who don’t have money will be further victimized and looked down upon as inferior. So much for “all are created equal. . .” not to mention “I am my brother’s keeper.” That would not be an America I would like, and I wouldn’t like the president who helped to create that America, regardless of how great his debating skills might be.

Jay

October 4th, 2012
7:59 am

“So, you’re saying Romney shook on stage last night? That could be the case as well. If he came out like the moderate that I’m hearing about, I’m sure the far right will let us hear about it in some form.”

I suspect that they’re too delighted by the victory to raise any real stink about it.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
7:59 am

at some point the obama camp will float the idea that the potus was preoccupied with some grave, urgent national security issue and was unable to give the debate his full attention.

Nope. His best tack is to pretend it never happened lol. “Debate? What Debate? Wasn’t me. How about them Bears……..”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEovJYZsiDY

by any means necessary

October 4th, 2012
8:00 am

Romney won as being aggressive and Obama lost because he was too passive. What about the “FACTS” how much truth poured into the overall deliverance of what was not fabricated?

GT

October 4th, 2012
8:01 am

“That’s an interesting question. If the charitable deduction is capped at $17,000, as Mitt appears to propose, rich Americans suddenly have a lot less incentive to make major philanthropical contributions.”

Now the plot thickens. You don’t have government and you don’t have contributions, no safty net. This should get the base that has sat this one out in the Democratic party back on their feet. Last night should have been a wake up call.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
8:02 am

Not to pick on Jim Leher, but the moderators I had in High School debate were better than he was. They should have just given him a white towel to throw on to the floor.

stands for decibels

October 4th, 2012
8:02 am

His base are going to start wondering who they’re buying…

oh please. The Republican base are a bunch of easily-led suckers. They’re Charlie Brown, trying to kick the football, and Lucy is telling them “go ahead.” They’ll fall in line like they always do.

or, put more nicely:

I suspect that they’re too delighted by the victory to raise any real stink about it.

(this is why Jay makes the big bucks.)

independent thinker

October 4th, 2012
8:02 am

And I assume everyone knows what Romney’s real tax plan is after last night?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 4th, 2012
8:02 am

10:20 — Romney tells Obama, “The place you put your money is a pretty good indication of where your heart is.” The obvious rejoinder, ready-made for a DNC attack, is that Romney’s heart must be in the Cayman Island, Bermuda or Switzerland, where Romney has put his money.

salon.com

HDB

October 4th, 2012
8:03 am

I had hoped that Obama would challenge Romney….but Obama has to walk a FINER line that any other President because of who he is!! If Obama came at Romney like I would have, he’d be deemed the “angry black man”…and another backlash would have ensued (as one hasn’t done so already!). Obama’s debating style was low-key whereas Romney came out!! What really got to me is when Romney tried to flip the script by AGREEING with Obama on so many issues!! IF Romney agreed with Obama so much, why is he wanting to CHANGE what’s been done!!

The truth behind Romney is what he said in Florida about the 47%….THAT should be played nationwide for the next six weeks!!!

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
8:03 am

From what I can gather, I guess Romney is the master-debater.
But he will never be in Obama’s league of Master-Race-Baitor.

If you mean that Mitt can never be black and therefore the 99% aged white Republican party cannot use race as a talking point against him, then yes, you are correct.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
8:03 am

If the charitable deduction is capped at $17,000, as Mitt appears to propose, rich Americans suddenly have a lot less incentive to make major philanthropical contributions

There are always ways invented around that for rich folks. For example, having them put their money in a charitable trust, which then makes the donation. The transfer of the money into the trust is then a deduction, although not a charitable contribution. And there’s no cap on that. See how that works?

Adam

October 4th, 2012
8:03 am

What makes me sick is that Romney basically just lied to everyone and went back on any plan he was able to determine was unpopular, while calling OBAMA a liar for accurately pointing out Romney’s plans. Then Romney pointed out the flaws in Obama’s plans with a stunned Obama not sticking up for himself very well, if at all.

It’s a schoolyard bully tactic. Romney (the bully) lies to those who haven’t been paying attention (the teacher) enough to know that the bully (Romney) is lying. So the teacher has a 50/50 chance of taking the bully’s word, and the person being bullied (Obama) was too shy or stunned to stick up for himself, giving more credence to the lies of the bully (Romney).

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
8:04 am

BYTEME: Romney doesn’t have to worry about the far right fanatical nutcases any more now that he has the nomination. They are already in the “Anybody but Obama” camp so they’ll vote for Romney now no matter what. Romney NOW has to convince the independents and the people who so far haven’t really been paying any attention.

He does that and he wins.

MiltonMan

October 4th, 2012
8:05 am

“Obama seemed overconfident coming in, as if he had underestimated both his opponent and the occasion.”

Yes just like the libs were confident that they would not see voter revolt in 2010 turn against them, that they would keep control of GA politics like they had for 130+ years before Sonny cam along, etc., etc.

Nothing like that liberal “confidence.”

Adam

October 4th, 2012
8:05 am

I suspect that they’re too delighted by the victory to raise any real stink about it.

Exactly. Romney got what he wanted: People who weren’t paying attention think he’s a moderate, and people who have been seized on him talking about the tenth amendment with reverence and how Obamacare was a government takeover.

Brosephus™

October 4th, 2012
8:05 am

I suspect that they’re too delighted by the victory to raise any real stink about it.

So, should we expect to see one of those sugary bounces that melts away when the rays of truth begin to shine light upon them?

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
8:05 am

The truth behind Romney is what he said in Florida about the 47%….THAT should be played nationwide for the next six weeks!!!

Nope. Just in the four states that are close right now: Florida, NC, VA, and CO. Obama’s lead in the other states is much larger.

Adam

October 4th, 2012
8:05 am

So, who wants to take my bet now? I am putting up $100 dollar for dollar person for person that Obama will still win. Any takers?

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
8:05 am

ByteMe -”For example, having them put their money in a charitable trust, which then makes the donation. The transfer of the money into the trust is then a deduction, although not a charitable contribution. And there’s no cap on that.”

Which is exactly what I have done with my investments for the last 10 years.

TaxPayer

October 4th, 2012
8:06 am

How far left can Mitt move and still be “extremely conservative”.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 4th, 2012
8:06 am

I’m glad Romney did well – it shows he didn’t totally waste 5 years of campaigning and debate preparation.

Obama, on the other hand, has been a bit busy the past 3.5 years.

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
8:07 am

How far left can Mitt move and still be “extremely conservative”.

He doesn’t have to be anymore. See my 8:04.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 4th, 2012
8:08 am

Romney doesn’t have to worry about the far right fanatical nutcases any more now that he has the nomination.

He does. The next phase of the election is about turnout. If your base doesn’t turnout in large enough numbers, you lose.

lynnie gal

October 4th, 2012
8:08 am

Obama made the mistake of playing too nice and not mentioning the 47% remarks or asking for explanation. Dems always make the same mistake–underestimating the viciousness of their opponent. Message to Obama–forget about “gentlemanliness” and remember what this con is trying to do to vulnerable Americans. Find your mojo and come out swinging next time.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
8:08 am

Jay, this a fair response from you. And I’m proud also that both men kept it Civil for the most part. And yes jay, when you a 2 touchdowns down, you have to throw into the end zone. Obama was in a prevent trying to run out the clock. Two of the Presidents biggest problems last night. Romney has the luxury of picking apart the Presidents record without being specific himself…….And the country was able to hear Obama get torn about his record without Jay,Gibbs,Axlerod running interference with double talk political speak. He was unfiltered.

Verbal Kint

October 4th, 2012
8:08 am

“Obama, on the other hand, has been a bit busy the past 3.5 years.”

Going on The View, Letterman…..yep. Real busy.

jacket

October 4th, 2012
8:09 am

I predict the stock market will spike way up today after Romney’s drubbing of the President. The Wall street investors will be trying to get ahead of a major rise in the Dow and Nasdaq if Romney wins.