Obama vs. Romney, head to head in Denver

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9:03: And … they’re off, from the Magnus Arena in Denver. May the best candidate win.

9:15: Obama’s off-base on the claim that Romney proposes another $5 trillion in tax cuts. Romney’s right — with deductions reduced, the tax cut would not be anywhere near that large. Of course, Romney hasn’t explained WHICH deductions, and the deductions in play could not eliminate all or close to all of that $5 trillion …

9:22: Romney doing well, I think. Obama on the defensive.

9:31: Obama brings up Romney’s position in the primary that he would not accept $10 in budget cuts for $1 in revenue increases. A telling point.

9:34: Romney again rules out revenue increases absolutely. That makes progress against the deficit and the debt impossible. It makes the scale of cuts in Medicare and Medicaid and other programs, including defense, impossible to sustain. But Obama is not making that argument well.

9:48: Romney put more time into preparation, and it shows. Obama is missing opportunities.

9:51: Romney endorses the need for regulation. He is making the transition from primary to general election that he had not previously made.

9:57: Romney hints at the “death panel” argument, then lauds his own state version of ObamaCare.

10:04: Obama continues to leave opportunities on the table.

10:09: Romney beating on the “death panel” angle. All Obama needs to say is: “Governor, the plan that you implemented in Massachusetts has an identical panel that does the exact same thing.” But he does not.

10:18: Again, Romney better prepared and Obama is oddly passive, failing to strike at his opponent’s vulnerabilities. A strong night for the former governor of Massachusetts. A weak performance by the incumbent.

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With Barack Obama holding a sturdy if somewhat narrow lead of three to four points in the polls, and a broader lead in most electoral college projections, he and Republican challenger Mitt Romney meet tonight in Denver for the first of three presidential debates.

Typically, these events have the air of a Vegas prize fight. But having covered a few of those fights, I can tell you that there’s one big difference. In boxing, both camps boast endlessly beforehand about the whupping that their guy is going to put on the unlucky sap across the ring. Political handlers play just the opposite game, trying to underplay their man’s chances.

In recent days, it’s also been interesting to see Romney start to add some details to a previous vacuum of specifics, revealing that as president he would honor the two-year waiver granted to illegal immigrants brought here as children, and that he would limit more affluent taxpayers to $17,000 in deductions to at least partially offset his proposed 20 percent reduction in tax rates. I suspect that debate preparations convinced his camp that going into tonight without such details would have left him too exposed.

So stay tuned.

– Jay Bookman

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Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
8:04 pm

Jay

You will tell who we think wins, won’t you :-)

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:05 pm

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:05 pm

President Obama will win.

King of Hearts

October 3rd, 2012
8:06 pm

People are still waiting for Mitt to do tonight what he couldn’t do since the primaries concluded. Hold your breath Cons. It’s coming!

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:06 pm

It’s like the super bowl!

Obama 2008 and 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5UgimK3vrI

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
8:07 pm

“You will tell who we think wins, won’t you”

I already know, but I don’t want to spoil the suspense.

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:07 pm

Josef

October 3rd, 2012
8:05 pm

Well, this is a helluva way to spend your 20th anniversary…
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

I have links where you can see romantic moments with Barry and Michele and send a donation.

NOTE: To all you asshats, I said ROMANTIC moments, not pornographics ones so get your minds out of the gutter.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm

jm

Boom

How can we trust romney or the republican brand for that matter? It’s a problem…

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:10 pm

LOL moonbat betty. I love that song but I never realized Starship did it.

Anyway, here is MY favorite “Miracle” song. I think you’ll like it, it’s harder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jseTa7HUIDU

King of Hearts

October 3rd, 2012
8:10 pm

“Romney start to add some details to a previous vacuum of specifics”
So Libs will only have a few weeks to attack them.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
8:10 pm

can you work out a deal with Dominos to get us a $1 off?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:11 pm

Running on helping the middle class is lie so his whole campaign is a lie.

A fairy tale, if you will.

The gop will not vote to help the middle class. Period.

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
8:11 pm

Mano a Mano is more macho.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:12 pm

” I suspect that debate preparations convinced his camp that going into tonight without such details would have left him too exposed.”

Or he’s releasing specifics deliberately at the time when voters finally start to tune in.

Any Obama specifics other than “forward”? Not really

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:12 pm

bman: Just stiff the delivery driver a buck on the tip. I mean you ARE a Romney supporter aren’t you?

Oh wait, that would mean you don’t tip the driver in the first place…….

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:12 pm

Bam….which candidate is most likely to plunge us into another senseless war? Who do you trust on that score?

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
8:13 pm

Get the zingers ready Womney.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:13 pm

he would limit more affluent taxpayers to $17,000 in deductions to at least partially offset his proposed 20 percent reduction in tax rates

Interesting…. can we apply that to corporations (people, ya know) too?

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:14 pm

Romney has plenty of specifics.

If you watch something other than MSNBC and read something other than bookman, you too can learn about them.

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:15 pm

“Romney start to add some details to a previous vacuum of specifics”
So Libs will only have a few weeks to attack them.

If his plans are sound and viable, why would he worry about somebody attacking them? Facts are facts, just as opinions are opinions. He should have been laying details like his name was Johnny Appleseed.

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
8:15 pm

Will either candidate talk
about the war we are
sliding into in North Africa?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:15 pm

Fred,

After he finishes mitt, the Lincoln bedroom will be rockin so don’t bother knockin :)

He will have a bigger smile than usual tomorrow.

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:15 pm

“Any Obama specifics other than “forward”? Not really”

None required. He is hope and change…er, at least hope, sorta…

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
8:16 pm

Get to it already! I figure it’ll be over in a few minutes…maybe Barry “ropes a dope”. I forgot that making money part…sorry.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:16 pm

Keep, Romney fully plans to reform and overhaul the corporate tax code including a massive elimination of tax breaks

bman

October 3rd, 2012
8:17 pm

Fred lolol

Well, I don’t financially support the Romney ticket, but i wish he could pull it off. Of course, it’s low on my wish-list. Besides, I have to tip the delivery drivers because they know where I work : )

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 3rd, 2012
8:17 pm

he would limit more affluent taxpayers to $17,000 in deductions to at least partially offset his proposed 20 percent reduction in tax rates

Well, seems to me that might could still be a Tax Increase and that goes against what the Big Guy wants.

Grover, where are you?

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:17 pm

jm

Great job cheerleading but….romney’s plan doesn’t really add up and I have a feeling you know it too; your on the anyone but obama team…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:18 pm

Bro 8:15

He already has. Tune in

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:19 pm

bman: Domino’s doesn’t deliver to my neighborhood………..

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm

Lib ilks want to see the Mittster’s plans down to the 7th decimal point yet they pass a $2.8 trillion Obamacare bill just so we can find out what’s in it afterwards.

Go figure.

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:18 pm

Bro 8:15

He already has. Tune in
++++++++++++++++++++

Wow. Another Jm lie. They just all blend together after a while until all one reads is blah blah blah………

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm

Yes, Jm, so I have heard….but not how he plans to do all of that and make the numbers work by not adding to the deficit.

I also heard he plans to cure cancer, walk on water and create jobs for every American, each paying $1 million. You got those details too or just swallowing the hook?

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm

Romney has plenty of specifics.

Obviously not enough for Bloomberg. From your own posted linkee…

How generous this makes Romney’s proposal depends crucially on how he treats health benefits…

This is something the Romney campaign should flesh out. Romney also did not address whether the $17,000 cap is adjusted for filing status. If married couples get a substantially higher allotment than singles, that could adjust for the health care issue.

5. There are some details that should be fleshed out. Particularly, many tax preferences do not take the form of deductions, but of credits or exclusions….

In order to determine how much money this plan would raise, we need to know whether a wide variety of tax preferences would be impacted, or only below-the-line deductions. I hope Romney will indicate that his plan also hits tax exclusions, as that would raise a lot more revenue and do more to eliminate distortions in the tax code….

Seems like the person writing that article is looking for specifics that Romney still has not detailed. He did state, however, that Romney gave enough specifics to actually be scored this time. I guess he gets an A for effort in that aspect.

:)

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm

jm

Even your Bloomberg writer thinks Johnny Appleseed is still shooting blanks….

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm

sink

You forgot redistribution, golf, telemprompter , 57, and american apologizer..there feel better?

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm

“bman: Domino’s doesn’t deliver to my neighborhood………..”

If I had a pizza place I wouldn’t deliver to Section 8 either, Fred.

Brandt Hardin

October 3rd, 2012
8:24 pm

Obama is simply going to wipe the floor with him. Romney is a rich pariah who simply can’t identify with ANY average American through his fog of lies and network of havened money. He’ll only continue to get booed out of the room by every group of minority and middle class voters he comes across. His religion and wealth is highly elitist and everyone in this country has had it with his kind. We’re telling Mitt he can’t buy this election! Read about the role of his money and his Magic Mormon Underwear are playing in the polls at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/05/mitt-romneys-magic-mormon-underwear.html

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm

Obama has to be nervous as $hit.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm

“Romney fully plans to reform and overhaul the corporate tax code including a massive elimination of tax breaks”

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/799378/original.jpg

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm

sink

You actually raise a good point, shouldn’t it really be called pelosicare? I mean the congress makes the laws, correct?

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm

Bro

The phrase “more to come” must be over your head.

And even so, the guy’s not going to write a full all encompassing tax bill before he’s prez doofus

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:26 pm

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm

“bman: Domino’s doesn’t deliver to my neighborhood………..”

If I had a pizza place I wouldn’t deliver to Section 8 either, Fred.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

:lol: Good one Stinkie.

And with THAT, I’m out. Later folks. Enjoy the debate. Wish I could blog with you but she who must be obeyed wants me to watch it with her.

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:26 pm

“You forgot redistribution, golf, telemprompter , 57, and american apologizer..there feel better?”

Nope.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

If I had a pizza place I wouldn’t deliver to Section 8 either, Fred

Because of course, the color of their money is different or spends differently? Is this the type of brainless “zingers” to expect from Romney tonight to satisfy the conned?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

filky.

You are likable like mitt.

Josef

October 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

Fred…

They didn’t send us nuthin for our anniversary, why should we send them anything? :-)

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

Ok. As I was leaving I just got an email from Barry. I have to admit that the cynical side of me finds this amusing.

In just a little while, I’ll go on stage to meet Mitt Romney in the first presidential debate here in Denver.

I couldn’t be prouder to represent you out there.

Fred, it’s because of you that affordable health care is within reach for millions more Americans. It’s because of you that we’ve seen 30 straight months of job growth and middle-class families have seen their taxes cut.

Together, we’ve done a lot — but there is so much more to do to keep this country moving forward. That only happens if we win this election.

Before tonight’s debate, will you chip in $5 or more to help finish this campaign strong?

https://donate.barackobama.com/Stand-With-Me

Can’t wait to see what you do tonight.

Barack

Why do I think he didn’t really send that himself to ME lol? And why do I think I’ll get another email begging for cash AFTER the debate?

Later

bman

October 3rd, 2012
8:29 pm

“If I had a pizza place I wouldn’t deliver to Section 8 either, Fred.”

There are 2 people you shouldn’t poke at … Fred and Jamvet

They make people look stupid. Steer clear of those 2

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:30 pm

Good stuff, Fredro.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
8:31 pm

How pathetic is this candidate?

Even the cons can’t stand Mitt.

Two straight primaries of six or more laughable lunatic fringers and both times the droolers can’t get any of them past the sixth inning, so the RINO gets nominated.

What a clusterflub of a political party…

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:31 pm

Economists liked our President’s plan better than mitt’s by a large margin. Fact.

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
8:31 pm

Josef

October 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm

Fred…

They didn’t send us nuthin for our anniversary, why should we send them anything? :-)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

But yours wasn’t legal lol. You are just “shacked up.” :mrgreen:

You know what? That is obviously a joke, but it just doesn’t look right. Why do you think? Maybe because while it’s true it ISN’T “right?”

And now I HAVE to go. Give unmentionable a hug.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:32 pm

the guy’s not going to write a full all encompassing tax bill before he’s prez doofus

To simplify… “You must elect me first to know what I will do”… This is acceptable to the same people who mock Pelosi with a lie.

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:33 pm

“Because of course, the color of their money is different or spends differently?”

No, just allergic to lead.

Donovan

October 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm

Can we dispense with the chest beating, libs? Let’s see how your community organizer weasels out of explaining his miserable track record.

You guys remind me of the nerd who comes to the dance with a skank and tries to convince everyone that she is the home coming queen. Please, enough!

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm

Yeah, it is sad JV,

Obama can’t bury the worst challenger EVER?

I don’t know, John Kerry was pretty bad!!

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
8:35 pm

Brandt Hardin

October 3rd, 2012
8:24 pm
Read about the role of his money and his Magic Mormon Underwear are playing in the polls
__________________________________________________________________________
OH GOODY!

Can we now make jokes about;

Harry Reids “magic drawers”
Leibermans mystic beanie and candleholder
Edleson’s(?) enchanted flying carpet prayer rug

You DO plan to be religious BIGOT about them all, right?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:36 pm

No, just allergic to lead.

Because all people receiving Section 8 assistance are criminals, violent or live in bad neighborhoods? :roll:

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:37 pm

**Good stuff, Fredro.**

Now thats friggin funny :lol:

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
8:38 pm

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm

Obama has to be nervous as $hit.
____________________________
Why?

Obama has an EC lead and he is debating Romney.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm

You guys remind me of the nerd who comes to the dance with a skank and tries to convince everyone that she is the home coming queen. Please, enough!

Someone has apparently never seen revenge of the nerds…

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm

moonbat

Sorry but I think kerry smoked ole georgie three times and we never really got a clear explanation of that mysterious hump in the prez back…..guess he was just a handicap hunchback, who knew?

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm

To the GOP; middle class is second class.

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm

The phrase “more to come” must be over your head.

And how long have we been waiting for “more to come”???

And even so, the guy’s not going to write a full all encompassing tax bill before he’s prez doofus

Well, even if he becomes Prez Doofus, he’s not going to write full, all encompassing tax legislation then, and only a brainless bloombot would assume that I even expect him to do so now.

When you “announce” a plan, you usually actually have a fairly detailed plan already established and can generally brief people on the important points without leaving them with so many questions to ask. You would think that a “captain of industry” such as Romney would be quite aware of such a thing. If someone who was a store manager in retail knows that (me), don’t you think a CEO of a Global Financial Firm would know as much, if not more?

David Granger

October 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm

I just hope Jim Lehrer will treat both candidates equally. If he asks President Obama about his college transcripts, then he should ask Mitt Romney about his tax returns…and vice-versa. Don’t press one candidate for a BS spin-type answer, while letting the other one get away with it.
Frankly, I wish they’d let E. J. Dionne question Romney, and let George Will question Obama…with instant fact-checking on the spot. That way we’d have a REAL debate, not this charade that we usually wind up with.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm

don and filky hate everybody except the wealthy just like mitt.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm

Wow

Mitt knows how to write a tax plan, but hires the best high priced accountants to do his?

I wonder who REALLY wrote what he is calling his tax plan, may be like the Romney Budget plan written by Ryan LOL

:-)

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm

betty, this race is not close. Sure conservative outlets like CNN are saying “polls are narrowing!” but the last thing that they need is a cakewalk. So what do you expect them to write?

So, the deranged neocons pretend it is close, but where it counts, Flip is gonna get splattered.

I’m having a hard time believing that Flip gets even 220 EC votes…

bman

October 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm

Keep up …

“Boulevard is notable for being a center of high crime and drug activity in Atlanta, as well as the location of the highest concentration of Section 8 housing in the Southeastern United States.”

It’s a nice evening for a stroll.

F. Sinkwich

October 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm

“Because all people receiving Section 8 assistance are criminals, violent or live in bad neighborhoods?”

Nope.

Just don’t like the odds.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:43 pm

David,

He will be fair and doubt he will ask mitt about his crazy “terrorist sympathizer” attack.

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 pm

JV, This race will be very close.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 pm

BIG govt vs SMALL govt, take your choice? You decide?

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 pm

Its funny, but my polls still have Romney up 10 points or so. Wonder who is correct?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 pm

filky is scared.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm

bman, sorry pal, you are moving the goalposts.. prove that ALL people receiving Section 8 assistance are criminals, violent or live in bad neighborhoods.

PS– you are also saying apparently that people who are not receiving Section 8 assistance also are criminals, violent or live in bad neighborhoods.

Enjoy your walk… remember the eyeholes go in front.

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm

And once it’s close, you and your ilk will call for re-count, after re-count, after re-count….

Until you win.

Count on it folks, entitilement city.

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm

Y’all have fun with this… Gotta call it an early night tonight.

Catch y’all later

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm

Cano gets another long dong.

17th postseason in 18 years for NYY.

Sorry Jay, but Boston fans gotta feel like Romney fans tonight…

bman

October 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm

Keep up .. .. I didn’t say any of that. You did. I simply posted a link. That’s all.

Pour yourself another drink, old timer. :-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm

Jim said be quiet or I will humiliate you in front of the world.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm

Moonbat .. .. If Romney doesn’t do well tonight, do you believe it will still be close ?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:53 pm

bman, yep you did. We learned today all about the power of “my interpretation of your words” from your conned friends. :) Watch your eyeholes.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm

“You guys remind me of the nerd who comes to the dance with a skank and tries to convince everyone that she is the home coming queen. Please, enough!”

Pleasant or unpleasant meomories Donovan?

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm

It’s not close.

Romney’s lost Florida, Ohio and probably Virginia.

He’s deader than Ronald Reagan…

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:56 pm

moonbat,

Why do you worry so much about programs Americans paid for?

You cons should be focused on jobs not that crap.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
8:56 pm

Tom

Wrong debate

Stupid government (bush policies on steroids per Romney campaign)

Or better government

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
8:57 pm

C-Span is much better than hearing that corporate media bs.

Jim is telling jokes.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
8:58 pm

Keep, I’ve seen it before.

My response never changes.

When I have on my NYY hat and BoSox fans yell “Yankees suck!!”, I just smile and say, “No, you just wish they did.”

That pretty much ends the discussion..

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
8:59 pm

Lets all hope Romney doesn’t have a shirt on with such a bad crease that is so prominent that it also causes a visible crease in the jacket

:-)

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:01 pm

“And once it’s close, you and your ilk will call for re-count, after re-count, after re-count….”

And if Romney does lose, regardless of the count, you will have excuse after excuse after excuse

“Count on it, folks”

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:01 pm

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
8:07 pm

“You will tell who we think wins, won’t you”

I already know, but I don’t want to spoil the suspense.

I am sure you have already wrote the Obama wins debate column. Just have to fill in a few blanks and hit the submit key.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:01 pm

Keep up .. .. Who are my “conned friends”?

Admitting that Obama is a failure doesn’t neccisarily make me a republican. Don’t blame me, my choice was Hillary.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:02 pm

Oh lawd……….

he didn’t say Ronald Reagan……….. Oh lawd

Where are you Thulsa?

It is times for the Reagan diatribe………

Oh lawd

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm

Decisions decisions…

Debate
Eagles vs Giants replay (Eagles win)
South Park.

Eagles and South Park looking GOOD!

Time for another drink.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm

td

Romney could say nothing and you would say he won the debate

What is your point?

moonbat betty

October 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm

Everyone pull out their game cards.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
9:04 pm

JamVet….. oh yeah…. bite me. :D

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:04 pm

Is anyone able to see he video on the blog? Not working here

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:04 pm

Romney wore the red tie so he won round one.

Eleanor Eisenberg

October 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm

“I wish they’d let E. J. Dionne question Romney, and let George Will question Obama…with instant fact-checking on the spot.”

That would be a great debate format, especially the fact-checking part.
I bet that neither candidate would agree to a format like that, since they both spend an entire campaign trying to duck the questions that they know they would be asked.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm

TBS, what’s good?

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm

One term proposition. Enough said

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm

Is it just granny and her iPad or are things with the live feed not going well?

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm

Ohio is red and white if I recall correctly, td.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:08 pm

No vidideo…

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
9:08 pm

Womney can help all of them!

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm

Is Mitt gonna channel Tricky Dick and tell the nation that he is not a crook?

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm

Layoff people and close businesses

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm

TBG

What’s shaking?

Bro and TBG: chk you email. I am game

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
9:10 pm

The live event has ended

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:10 pm

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm

Ohio is red and white if I recall correctly, td.

Romney’s is red with white and black strips OSU and UGA colors.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm

Everytime Obama says “Uh”, take a drink.

Drunk in 10 minutes :lol:

Relax libs, it’s a joke (he does say “Uh” A LOT).

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm

8 trillion spending increase for mitt romney.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm

what obama says he wants to do for business is NOTHING of what he has done the last 4 years…..lie # 1

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
9:12 pm

“High income people are doing fine”

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm

TBS, just checked and replied.

No Fred?

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
9:14 pm

Great, Romney is saying that workers need to pay for their own education?

That’s going to work so well when they either aren’t working and Pell Grants get cut?

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:14 pm

Mitt is kicking his teeth in right now

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:14 pm

Wow, Romney is actually laying out the poor Obama record at the same time giving details as to how he will improve the economy. Taking notes Jay?

Elmer Fudd's son

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm

Mitt likes coal, I wonder if he uses it?

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm

I think the video is working now… it’s actually ahead of the TV broadcast.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

TBG

I forgot to follow up with Jay to see if he sent Fred my email address or if he did send it, did Fred receive it.

My bad on that one.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

obama is in WAYYYYY over his head. Barack…this isn’t Mccain you are dealing with now.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

Obama seems nervous

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

Mit’s getting into specifics of his NON tax cuts?

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

Obama is stumbling all over his own tongue.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

2000 tax increase for the middle class if you vote for mitt.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm

Mitt is getting riled already

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm

Boom

Romney hammering away

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm

getalife….and what will the tax increase be for middle class under statusquo? crickets…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm

Romney, the miracle guy. My plans will do this, but i wont tell you how

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm

obama just cannot handle the facts.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm

Tax cuts do not increases revenue mitt.

Nevermind mitt says.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm

Jm

Yeah, he is nervous like last time

:-)

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm

TBG

I forgot to follow up with Jay to see if he sent Fred my email address or if he did send it, did Fred receive it.
______________________________________
Jay, you lazy lib living off the gub’met teat, did you send Fred the address?

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm

obama lowered tax rates…..uh, obamacare….lie

G Mare

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm

I apologize. I rarely call out a blogger re grammatical errors, but td @ 9:01: “have already wrote”? From this, I surmise you are not a supporter of our very well educated president. Yes, I could go on, but will refrain, realizing that not all of us have had the benefit of a good education. SIGH.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm

His tax plan has NOT lowered tac rate for 98%. He extended the bush tax cuts and then gave us a tax holiday that is just bankrupting social security….something we will pay for later on. Holy crap.

oldguy

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm

Well, i see the cheering section is all ready with the rah-rah go O. Keep that coolaide handy. Jay has already said it all for the Choir “Obama wins”. so save yourself some effort and watch a movie.
I, for one, am watching something that has substance “SpongeBob”.. Although Barnacle Boy does remind me of a current sitting president.
Why watch that old boring debate I already got my free healthcare, foodstamps and “Bamaphone”, What else is there?

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm

Obama just challenged Romney’s MATH skills LOL.

Cons don’t do MATH

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm

Obama a mess

Bad joke

lynnie gal

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm

Romney’s eyebrows are dyed too dark.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm

blowing up our deficit….like i obama have done for 4 years

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm

scott,

Listen to our President.

He tried another tax cut for the middle class but the gop voted no and blocked it. Fact.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm

He’s agitated.

He does not like being challenged.

.
.
.

Romneys plan is nevermind

Trump…small business

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm

G Mare
kin u reed an unnerstan
dis ?

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm

Romney can’t stand still

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm

TBS, look at the comments already.

Do you see any objectivity so far?

All I see is “My guy is killing your guy “.

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm

Willard has a bigger flag on his jacket, he must be a true American.

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm

Willard looks like he is 7 feet tall in that shot from the right.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm

What’s the spot on romneys flag?

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm

Hey G Mare. Hope the tests went well.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm

Obama just did a call out for COMMON SENSE, Thanks Mr. President LOL

cons don’t do COMMON SENSE

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm

Obama is attempting to tie himself to Clinton.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm

“You might want to move onto another topic” Translation. I just go smoked in this part. Please move onto something i was more successful with…Jobs.. Oh nope… How about economic growth? Oh nope. I can talk about travel, campaigning, and hanging out with celebrities. Maybe I can talk about how bad I am at golf.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm

Funny how Mitt says what his plan isn’t. What in the heck is it? What reductions? What exemptions do you chop?

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm

TBG

And you expected any different?

:-)

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm

Bill Clinton….Bill clinton. If I mention his name enough, maybe all the stupid libs will think he is running again..

lynnie gal

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm

Obama’s not letting up on the math quiz–how do you lower taxes, spend more on military and cut the deficit? Romney’s answer–let me repeat. My tax cut won’t add to the deficit. Really?

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm

Mister Bookman .. .. How do you grade the candidates so far?

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm

Roud 1 – Romney

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm

this moderator is terrible. Start drilling down on both of them. all these guys do is speak in generalities

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm

b-man, updating above on the blog entry.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm

Romney clearly won that round.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm

oldguy

are you swimming in such a deep pool of Romney koolaide that you are wearing floaties and have a mask and snorkel on?

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm

Mitt’s is starting to melt down he is becoming condensing with Jim if he doesn’t get his way.

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

Is the program worth borrowing money from China?

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

I’d agree with Orange, Round 1 to Romney.

lynnie gal

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

Romney just promised to cut Big Bird even though he likes him.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

What spending cuts?

PBS, ACA, what other specific cuts Romney…..

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

Downsize government.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

wow. Jay actually gives props to Romney. holy crap

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

He agrees with our President a lot cons.

I thought our President was a failure cons.

What’s up with that?

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm

Obama looks extremely RATTLED and CONFUSED without his teleprompter!
OBAMA is trying to grab onto Bill Clinton’s Coat tails out of pure desperation. :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm

Oy vey, a Romney lie… as much deficit as all other Presidents combined. :roll:

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm

Thanks Mister B …didn’t see that up there

lynnie gal

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm

Round One to Romney? I don’t think so…

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm

You did NOT go after medicare fraud. That is a complete LIE

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm

Obama sounds no more intelligent or articulate than the average Leftwing Bookman Blogger.
(no offense, Jay. :-) )

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm

Mitt is savaging Obama. He is kicking his ass all over the stage. Obama looks helpless without his teleprompter. All he can do is blame W and try to tie Romney to W. Sad that that is all he has.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm

bowles simpson commission that you completely ignored

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm

TBG

And you expected any different?
___________________________

Yeah

After all the drinking games proposed, I expected a lot more…

iugtuyiohpy0iyohik pssssssssst!

Hunnie do do :lol:

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm

uh uh um um Bill clinton bill clinton bushes fault. um uh

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm

killing obama. Just mention the “1-term proposition”

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm

Scott .. .. Mister Bookman is honest. If Romney performs better, he will say so. It’s Romney’s policies he disagrees with..

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm

Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
Mitt is savaging Obama. He is kicking his ass all over the stage. Obama looks helpless without his teleprompter. All he can do is blame W and try to tie Romney to W. Sad that that is all he has.

We’ll just ignore the fact all of Romney’s economic and foreign policy advisors are from the Bush administration.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm

The fact checkers will be busy with romey’s lies.

Not sure how you give him round 1 for that.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:33 pm

Oh Lord. Obama is really reaching now. He is using that emotionalism crap that Romney wants to cut medicaid for crippled kids. Oh and the Obama putdown of Trump earlier was just plain weak- not to mention it lowered the dignity of the office. Mitt is killing him!

oldguy

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

My god Jay (sorry for the religious reference) Have you gone bonkers?
You gave something to Romney. Have another glass of the coolaide and get a hold. If you keep this up I will begin to believe you might be going “fair and whatever!” .

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

Melt down on taxes.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

getalife….the fact checkers have been asleep for the last 4 years. Nobody gives crap about them.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

“Not sure how you give him round 1 for that.”–Getalife

That’s okay, everyone else understands. :-)

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

I will be damned. Romney may actual be a conservative.

lynnie gal

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

Romney–During a recession, gov’t shouldn’t raise taxes. Every economist: During a recession gov’t shouldn’t cut spending.

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm

Are we all watching the same debate?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm

Cut corporate welfare.

mitt says no.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm

Oh my God. Obama is whining about 4 billion a year to big oil. As if that 4 billion is going to balance the budget. Same with the break for corporate jets. Same ole crap with Obama. This shyte from him is tiresome. That’s why mitt is cleaning his clock right now.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm

More supply side……..

Nothing new…….

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm

Tax breaks for offshoring.

mitt say keep them.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm

Question “Obama, Why is gas over twice the price than when you came into office? You had a supermajority to get stuff done. What happened?”

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm

Uhoh, Obama just opened himself up with his rant about Corporate taxes… Romney is about to eat his lunch! This is getting good! :-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm

Wiping the floor with his greasy head.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm

get rid of the teleprompters and the softball questions he was fed last election and this guy is clueless. libs you were much better off with Hillary.

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm

That’s a silly question, Scott. Gas prices were much higher than today under Bush before they collapsed as part of the economic collapse. And presidents don’t have control over that anyway. The market does — supply and demand does. Are you advocating giving the government control over that?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm

doomy,

It’s a start not a solution.

Why can’t you cons get that?

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm

ouch. take that obama

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm

So Mitt thinks is okay to borrow money from China to get oil tax breaks. :lol:

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm

Boom. Mitt hammered him on the 90 billion in tax credits for green energy vs 2.8 billion in big oil tax credits. WOW. He just made Obama look like a damn fool.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm

Great line from Romney

Obama picks the losers :)

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm

Mitt is slaughtering him

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm

Romney slams Obama on all the failed energy companies.

oldguy

October 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm

An getting behind on SpongeBob …. see you later.
Take care Jay, I do wish you well.
This to sweep the jungle for targets.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm

“Wiping the floor with his greasy head.”

Yeah that Afro sheen is mighty slick! :-)

Geaux Dawgs!

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm

Somebody did their homework and somebody didn’t. Round 2 – Romney

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm

Structurally sound? Bankrupt because of intergovernmental transfers you idiot

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm

Round two to Romney.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm

Obama has got butthurt over the 90 billion green energy tax credits vs 2.8 billion for oil. He is definitely rattled.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm

Doom 9:38 yawp

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm

dude…bringing up stories about your family just will not work anymore

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm

Obama is losing it! OMG! This is the buffoon the White House! :-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm

SS and Medicare is up.

mitt wants to end them.

RB from Gwinnett

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

“You don’t just pick the winners and loses, you pick the losers”

LMAO

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

you know his grandmother….. a ‘typical white women’….medicare is about to be a loser for obama…..wait for it

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

Move over Yaz and make room for Miguel Cabrera.

First Triple Crown since 1967…

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Oh my God. Obama is whining about 4 billion a year to big oil. As if that 4 billion is going to balance the budget. Same with the break for corporate jets. Same ole crap with Obama. This shyte from him is tiresome. That’s why mitt is cleaning his clock right now.

That really puts some perspective on Mitt’s whining about $281 million to PBS.

Tall

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

…”The oil companies get $ four billion…”….

Stammer..stammer….$4 billion in what?

LIAR!!!! He’s losing and losing badly. Lairs can’t speak with conviction. Stammer and backpedal.

Corporate Jet? What on earth is Air Force One?

Obama still thinks he can wing it, because you’re stupid. Are you?

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

i have never heard obama sound so bad before. He is rattled. Rather surprised

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm

Oh good lord. Obama thinks govt and not competition lowered prescription drug costs. God help this man.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm

sry $422 MILLION, my mistake.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm

“WOW. He just made Obama look like a damn fool.”–Doomy

Actually Obama is doing a fine job of that all by himself. NO TELEPROMPTER! :-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm

mitt is all over the place .

Not ready for prime time.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm

The $716 billion medicare lie from Romney….. :roll:

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm

Mitt pounding him on the 716 billion he stole from Medicare. I’m starting to feel sorry for Obama.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm

mitt does not understand anything.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm

Owned voucher care.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm

“Not ready for prime time.”–getalife

Put the Brown down Brother, he is trouncing your candidate! :-)

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm

The Crown down…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm

Lehrer seems like he’s feeding Obama his answers

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm

When is Romney going to give his ideas and not play off of Obama? Still waiting.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm

i cannot believe how delusional getalife is. Obama is doing terrible

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm

Notice Obama isn’t even denying that he took 716 billion from Medicare. Why???? Could it be because its true??????? He didn’t even attempt to fight back. Surrender on the 716 billion medicare question. We will take that white flag.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm

Obama is all mover the place. The isn’t John McCain, Obama! :-)

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

Same ole crap with Obama. So now the bad guys are the insurance companies. First it was big oil, then millionaires and billionaires, and now insurance companies. This crap is old. Stale too.

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

Why won’t Romney answer any questions?

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

He explained it doomy.

Your mind is closed.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

From reading over the comments here, they’re dominating each other. So, either everyone here is brainwashed, or it’s a pretty close debate.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

Corporate Jet? What on earth is Air Force One?

just wow..

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

Romney
Cut tax rates,
cut deductions,
increase revenue from
growth. Laffer rerun.

Simple Truths

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm

I’ve listened to enough. My hip waders won’t cover anymore!

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm

bman,

Partisans never admit they lose.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm

Uhoh, Romney just took Clinton away from Obama. BAM!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm

“May the best candidate win.”

Nooooooo ……………. may the candidate that’s best “for the country” win !

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm

Medicare has lower administrative costs according to Obama? Nope. The reason is that the private sector is the one that is doing the main administration in the medicare advantage plans. So that is an easily disproven LIE.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm

USMC:

I wish they would just give them “pugle sticks” !

Simple Truths

October 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm

The moderator has no control of the show…

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm

UhOh, now here comes the discussion on the economy… Obama is in real trouble! :-)

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm

Round 3 very close and one could argue a tie or slight edge to Romney.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm

Aside from some weird Lehrer comments, format is awesome, good job PBS

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm

Wow! Round 3 – Romney, with respects to Obama’s Grandma.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm

Yeah, this format is bad. Jim L. has zero control over the debate. Both running ramshod all over the place…

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm

Repeal regulations on Wall Street means another collapse people.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm

“I wish they would just give them “pugle sticks” !”

Yut Yut! Semper Fi!

bman

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm

getalife
October 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm

bman,

Partisans never admit they lose.

lol I know. Still, it would be nice to know how the candidates are really doing. I’m at work forpetesakes

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm

bman, even Jay is pretty much saying Romney is winning. Given his bias, I think it is safe to say that he kicking the crap out of Obama

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:53 pm

There he goes again. Blaming others for the economy. Like a broken record. Everything 4 years later is W’s fault or someone elses’s fault. Does this president accept any responsibility? Any???

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm

and WHY were they giving loans. Because they were told to. We all know why. Look not further than Clinton.

Simple Truths

October 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm

I’ve hit my limit. I’m going to go plunge my toilets…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm

Tealiban

It’s great

Back and forth free flow is good

More in depth answers than usual

Which isn’t saying much, but it is progress

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm

ONE TERM PROPOSITION!!!!

Dan

October 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm

Romney is giving new meaning to term broken record “growing our way out of a deficit” everyone gets tax cut and the deficit will disappear

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

2 observations:

1. Obama does not look like the great orator as described.
2. Romney seems to be trying to bully the moderator
3. Very few posters here are able/willing to ACTUALLY hear what EITHER candidate is saying.
4. Did you catch my Bidenism?

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

lehrer is leading obama a bit

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

Air Force One is NOT a corporate jet, you numbnuts.

Jesus, Joseph and Mary…

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

“even Jay is pretty much saying Romney is winning. Given his bias, I think it is safe to say that he kicking the crap out of Obama”

That pretty much sums it up.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

Lehrer is doing a horrible job. He’s not holding either candidate’s feet to the fire.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm

bman,

mitt agres with our President on most things but our President got him on regulating Wall Street.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm

How about this Obama….Does anybody think that unemployment over 10% and gas over $4/gallons and low GDP growth, and a decreased value of the dollar, then Obama is your candidate.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm

uh-oh jay….

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm

bman, even Jay is pretty much saying Romney is winning.

No, misquoter, he said he won round one.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm

Jay is awfully quiet… :-)

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm

Romney has been very well-prepared

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm

Obama keeps smirking. He’s getting bashed and he knows it. Watch that continous smirk when from Obama when Mitt is speaking.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm

Romney, how are you going to lower healthcare costs?

Silent so far

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm

getalife, getaclue….wow

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm

9:48: Romney put more time into preparation, and it shows. Obama is missing opportunities.

This we agree on 100%.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm

Repeal ObamaCare is a losing argument.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm

here is the lib boogeyman template….easy

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm

“1. Obama does not look like the great orator as described.”–That Bama Fan

Not being allowed to use a teleprompter is a B!tch! :-)

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm

Doesn’t matter who actually wins, if you listen to Fox after the debate Romney won, if you tune in MSNBC than Obama won. Didn’t you guys read Jay’s last blog?

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm

jamvet…no wonder why you probably think obama is doing a great job. If OBama was doing well, Jay would be chirping away man.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm

that takeover will take effect after this election

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm

Obama just said you can keep your own doctor under obamacare. LIE LIE LIE!

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm

proven that many can not keep their doctor….the truth escapes your guy jay

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm

bman, even Jay is pretty much saying Romney is winning.

No, misquoter, he said he won round one.

Read the points he is adding at the top of the blog. Obama is getting a pretty good butt kicking right now 70% of the time.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm

It bored many Americans and they changed the channel.

Too much policy arguments and no zingers.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm

Obama is very passive personally and it comes through in the debate

Romney fought for the last word in round 1

Obama totally passed on the last word in round 2

America needs fixing and can’t have a pacificifist, empty seat prez

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm

steve,
that’s why i suggested turning off tv after debate

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm

and THAT was a STATE-run healthcare system….NOT a FEDERAL government system

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm

Beat him on health care.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm

The rammed down our throat lies by Mitt…..

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm

doing a good job of communcating the differences. Mitt should have said he did it from a state level because it is a STATE’S right constitutionally

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm

Romney + on delivery
Obama + on content

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm

OBAMA… The Great Divider!

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm

What time does the end?

Yes…I could Google it but cut me a break. :)

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm

Mitt is right. Sears just dropped coverage and the parent of Red lobster, Applebees, and other restaurants just dropped coverage yesterday. Lots of people are going to lose coverage under Obamacare. Plain and simple.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 pm

how is a FEDERAL plan the same as a STATE’S plan?

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 pm

I forget debate….when does the debate end. Ooops.

Simple Truths

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 pm

I’ll give Jay credit if he just hangs in until the end of this crap debate.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 pm

‘how to cooperate’…translation means do what i say…..statist alert
here comes social darwinism…..it’s getting ugly for obama….over his head people

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm

Listen to the fact checkers after the debate.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm

Steve .. .. I believe it’s 90 minutes

Mark in mid-town

October 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm

I think Obama is doing fine, but Romney is clearly on another level. This is the real Mitt Romney that most of the country has been shielded from by the corrupt liberal msm. In essence, Romney’s overseas trip performance a while back was near as impressive if viewed in totality, but because the msm had the ability to just near completely bury that, they created a narrative that it was one gaffe after another by Romney. Impossible for them to do that with tonight’s debate as they’re unable to filter what the American people see the way they did with regard to Romney’s foreign trip. Even Bookman is at a loss to try and spin Romney’s performance in a negative way. I suspect that will change once instructions are received from Party Central.

Erik veteran

October 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm

Mitt is overwhelmingly winning this debate, he is using facts and speaks very well and consistent, as were obama pauses and doesnt answer most questions directly hes too buisy wasting time trying to relay stories about people he met for 5 minutes and his poor dear grandmother. obama is a millionare why is is grandmother poor..? doesnt he care..? just saying he makes it seem like his granny is living in a straw hut surviving on breadcrumbs.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm

Libs have evacuated

Libs lost

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm

Obama is digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole… He is all over the place. What the heck is he saying? Disheveled, stuttering, definitely very uncomfortable. Tick tock, Tick tock, Tick tock…

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm

Steve

Bman is correct: 90 minutes, so 10:30

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm

I’m glad that Romney got the truth out there about Obamacare being passed with virtually no Republican support. Obama divisive as usual and the truth has come out regarding how Obamacare was passed.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm

Thank you bman. I appreciate it.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm

Thank you TBS. :)

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm

All my plans have too lengthy descriptions to get into….

It will take too long to explain the math…..

Hollow, vague plans is all Romney has.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm

Getalife’s 10:05

“retreat!”

Divide and Conquer

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm

Who cares? Cat turd versus dog turd; both are still animal feces. Eat up partisans.

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm

Come on Pres. get something right. Maybe lehrer can ask him how many dimples are on a golf ball. I bet he would get that one right.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm

mitt will outsource his job to the States.

Why does he want to be President then?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
10:09 pm

The private market always works best? what nonsense.

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:09 pm

Romney lies. Insurance companies covers children 22-26 only because it was legislated.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:09 pm

Where are the libs?

Jeep ers

Getalife, go find your friends

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

“Why does he want to be President then?”–Getalife

So he can play as much Golf as Obama… :-)

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

I’ve never seen Obama stutter this much.

Romney tossing out “grey” truths.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

Too complicated for many con bloggers to understand.

They cut and ran.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

obama is getting weaker…..now the lib boogeyman….easy

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

Man…Mitt is killing him. Imagine if Newt was debating him. Obama would not even know what hit him

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

Golf.

Drink.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

Obama whining that he has a record now.

And his record stinks.

Picks losers.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm

BABOOM!

Are Romney’s plans to good to be true??? Why no details Mitt?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm

Mitt is no Ronald Regan.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm

I get the sense that the Liberal Bloggers here on Bookman’s blog are freaking out right about now. Obama is getting exposed as the unqualified Lackey that he is.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

Now Mitt is making up deduction numbers. $25,000 or $50,000, just pick a number. HE HAS NO PLAN!

bman

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

Obama had the momentum and the polling (if you believe polls) to put Romney away in the first debate. If he allows Romney to outperform him and shifts that momentum and confidence to the other side, he’s going to be in a lot of trouble.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

mitt thinks he is reagan.

reagan raised taxes and granted amnesty .

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

Romney is doing a great job at interjecting Obama’s own words in his statements.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

USMC,

No doubt. Look at Obama’s facial expressions. The man is clearly perturbed and agitated. Can’t no teleprompter save him here.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

Mitt just admits he has no plan, only “objectives”. :lol:

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm

Reduce rates, broaden the base

Amen

Clinton treasury team said same thing

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm

Lehrer is funny

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm

Golf.

Drink.

and watch College Football!

Geaux Dawgs!

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm

Romney in a shutout thus far.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm

BOOM…..obama’s smirks are getting more pronounced…..even more independents and more reagan dems moving to romney as we speak

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:14 pm

Why is Lehrer giving Obama so much time and then cutting romney off more. That’s fine because obama is doing a great job at making himself look dumb. Hell Biden prob would have done better at this point

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

Romney SMACKED Obama on Obama saying Romney had no details on the pre existing plan.
Romney pointed out that Obama was detailing Romneys plan in his rebuttal.

Obama does not look smooth.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

Great point Doomy! Obama’s Facial expressions are telling us who the winner of this debate is.

Obama is taking his daily Intel from an IPAD… Great. Mr. Video Game President!

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

Obama talking about Lincoln?

Oh come on

Obama would’ve lost the civil war and may cause a new one with the deficit

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

I am disappointed. Obama should have requested details each and every time Mitt referred to his “plan”

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

mitt looks crazy.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

everybody wants better education….obama now repeating himself about mindless stats he wants…romney doesn’t want more teachers….ie boogeyman….this is fun

Divide and Conquer

October 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm

So…the sock puppet is not doing so well?

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:09 pm

Romney lies. Insurance companies covers children 22-26 only because it was legislated

22-26 year olds are children? Must be a liberal belief.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm

in other news…the Yankees are stomping the BoSOX

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm

“Obama would’ve lost the civil war and may cause a new one with the deficit”

And I am sure you will be leading to the charge to the back…………….

:-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm

mitt solutions are let States worry about it.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm

Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
22-26 year olds are children? Must be a liberal belief.

Is your son or daughter not your child?

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm

Some help getalife. I think he is watching Housewives of Atlanta or something besides the debate. :)

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm

I was nervous about this debate. I thought Romney would get spanked because I thought Obama was supposedly a great debater. That nervousness was unfounded.

Divide and Conquer

October 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm

getalife…you need some meds? Just go stand in the corner and scream CONS, CONS, CONS! Then you’ll feel better.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm

Trickle down government

Yuck

Elect Romney

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:18 pm

Trickle down government. It is not working. Mitt laying down the BOOM with those stats on the economy and the proof.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:18 pm

“I am disappointed. Obama should have requested details each and every time Mitt referred to his “plan””

Obama has NO details, so I don’t think he wants to even breathe the word “details”. :-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm

jim wants specifics mitt said let the local and states worry about it.

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm

Bring on the vouchers.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm

getalife “mitt solutions are let States worry about it.” Yup. If the states want unversal healthcare, let them do it. If states want better education, let them manage the money the dept of education gets. seems pretty clear to me

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm

I think Bookman probably changed the channel to the baseball game. :-)

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm

Tbs 10:16. Gobbledygook

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm

No details zinger.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm

Mr. Romney you are no John Kennedy, hell you aren’t even a DAN Quayle

:-)

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm

“Not very detailed, seems to be a trend.” That pretty much sums up Romney’s campaign.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

The factcheckers will let us know who lied more than the other, but Romney wins rd 1…..

We will see how that impacts the polls in the swing states over the next 4 to 5 days.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

Tbs showed up!

A lib!

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

Doom,
In my case I’m referring to graduate students.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

Obama’s TRICKLE UP POVERTY is failing our country miserably.

Obama acts as though he knows NOTHING about business. No wonder our economy is in the tank. :-)

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

scott,

His solution for everything is let states worry about it.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

“I think Bookman probably changed the channel to the baseball game”

I think Jay wishes he was counter punching in this debate instead of POTUS.

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

All Obama can say is how much he has given away as President.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

Jm

It is true………. You wont do anything…………..

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm

Why is it that what I hear from Obama and Romney does not match what certain bloggers here are saying they said?

Could these bloggers be LYING? :roll:

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm

college boogeyman again

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm

Tealiban,

She didn’t say son or daughter. She said children. I don’t have kids but if I did have a 26 year old I would refer to him as my son and not my child.

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm

Mass has good schools because those citizens are willing to pay for it.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm

Ooooh….”not your own facts” one of them zingers? Romney has been making up his own “facts” all night. :lol:

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm

$90 billion in failed green jobs would have hired 2 million teachers.

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm

The US has the best Health Record in the world? WRONG Romney.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm

Romney just dropped some fast math on Obama

$90billion

2 million teachers

Obama head spinning

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm

If you want States to worry about everything you run for governor not President mitt.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm

Low expectations are helping Romney and high expectations are hurting the President.

JMHO

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm

Good last question

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

big gov’t smackdown libs…
paralysis as a result of harry reid in the senate….that is the biggest problem….BAM

bman

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

TBG .. .. From what I’m reading here, Romney is doing better.

My question is : is he coming across as likeable?

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

Collaboration Mitt

Boom

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

“$90 billion in failed green jobs would have hired 2 million teachers.”

Ouch

Ahem

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

Common Sense isn’t very Common

October 3rd, 2012
8:04 pm
Jay

You will tell who we think wins, won’t you

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Any comment after this opening truth is not worth offering. The TRUTH commands.

But, I couldn’t be strong enough to be silent, so:
Obama looked sick; pissed off; arrogant; and outclassed.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

getalife…that is your problem. You do not understand what states rights are versus what the role of federal government is

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

Our President did meet with leaders mitt.

He is freaking out.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

Romney is eating Obama alive!
OBAMA is toast. :-)

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

Good line from Obama

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

Obama actually got in a zinger.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

yeah obama….maybe he can handle it like you did and say “I won you lost…too bad”

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

going to be a civil war…………

hahahahhaha

clown

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

Wham on meeting with Dems after repealing ObamaCare.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm

obama is flustered and the contempt on the obamacare 1st day comment was enlightening….people are seeing this and nothing jay can spin can change it……

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm

Atlanta mom,

Are you aware of the fact that when ACA was passed that insurance companies then quit issuing child only health insurance policies? Did you know that?

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm

“Our President did meet with leaders mitt.”

No he did not.
Caesar Obama had the DemocRat Congress PUSH through Obamacare without ONE republican vote.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm

Tbs

Have anything of substance to say? Guess not.

Divide and Conquer

October 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm

TBS, are you done pretending you are not a lefty? Obama might be a disappointment to you, but still you lean hard left. I understand, Romney sucks, but still – Obama for 4 more…. Hee heee hee.

I actually want to see that. Maybe he will change his name to Benito.

Ahem

October 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm

9:48: Romney put more time into preparation, and it shows. Obama is missing opportunities

Oblunda is known to be arrogantly LAZY.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm

scoot,

States run State government not federal government.

Is politics too complicated for you?

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm

Have they gotten to the swimsuit competition yet?

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm

the extreme wing of the dems is running things and has said no to anybody that disagrees with them for 4 years now……he has pitted one person against the other….his words in last minute do not mirror his words as he speaks across this country day after day

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm

Obama is fumbling and getting angry as hell. Watch him “flash” only for a millisecond, but he is angry and frustrated as hell.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm

Obama pitches himself pretty well as a reasonable levelheaded guy

Many of his policies just suck

And Romney is clearly a better option

Ahem

October 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm

The Oblunda campaign would have been better served by offering either an empty chair or a KIA hamster. :-)

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm

I think the polls might change a little towards Romney.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

usmc,

Liar,. gop were in the meetings .

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

Still waiting on Romney’s details. Not much leadership there.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

I wish I had a dollar for every time Obama says FOUR YEARS AGO(read it’s all George Bush’s fault) when I took over I would be a millionaire over and over again… :-)

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

Doom, yes I know that. I also know that students/young adults can also now have coverage that they previously might not have had.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

getalife…he is making the point that he would give up the federal government takeover of states rights. It is obvious that you have no clue about how this major concept was built into our constitution and the bill of rights. Why don’t you pick up a copy and read it. Tell us where you see that it is a federal government’s job to take on healthcare.

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm

Your President just took a butt whipping my friend.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

Oh my god. Obama is talking about closing the deficit when the govt has added another 5 trillion in debt. Is the guy for real?

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

weak last line by obama….he is begging for people to keep buying obamaphones and vote for him

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

Weak prez close.

Romney- prez tuning in? ?

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm

Funny how Romney wasn’t worried abou the direction of the economy 4+ years ago…

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

miit never told us how he will get the gop to vote for the middle class.

He can’t change the gop.

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

trickle down economy,
trickle down government,
whole lotta tricklin goin on…

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

“Liar,. gop were in the meetings”

They were shut out Getalife. Oh wait, Romney is getting ready to lower the BOOM!

LOOK AT THE RECORD!

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

Jm

you are the dumb ass talking civil war………

speaking of substance…………. YOU LOSE

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

I’ll get incomes up again. HOW

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

Romey’s concerned about America and Obama is concerned about his Grandma.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm

Mitt is only concerned about the direction of America in the last 4 yrs? He was okay with the Bush recession and the direction under Bush.

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

Doom,
My original point stands. Romney said those students/young people were always able to be covered. That was not true.

scott

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

getalife…he met with them. oh that’s right…i remember seeing all of those promised meetings on CSPAN to see who stood for what. you are clueless my friend

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

Ill create 12 million jobs. HOW?

(BTW estimates already say that will happen anyway).

tireofit

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

How Mr. Willard?

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

“I also know that students/young adults can also now have coverage that they previously might not have had.”

Really? And how is that? How can they get coverage today that they supposedly couldn’t get 4 years ago? How?

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

Obama’s TRICKLE UP POVERTY has destroyed our economy!
Americans are tired of Obama’s Food Stamp economy… :-)

Ahem

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Oblunda’s facial expressions told it all.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

I wouldn’t restore the $716 billion to Medicare

Good promise

Bad policy

Romney won

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

Just my opinion but since Obama was hasn’t had a debate in such a long time he should have scheduled press conferences to get sharper on thinking on his feet.

JMHO

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

As I note above:

My verdict would be a Romney victory. Maybe it was overconfidence on Obama’s part, but whatever the cause, he performed poorly. If overconfidence was indeed the issue, I doubt that will be the case next time. There’s certainly no cause for it.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

2 decent guys

Romney better prez

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

We don’t outsource federal government to State government.

mitt will collapse our economy again by deregulating the banks.

Stock up on supplies if he wins.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

bman

October 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm

TBG .. .. From what I’m reading here, Romney is doing better.

My question is : is he coming across as likeable?
____________________________________
Bad question for me.

I don’t need to like you (have a beer with you) to vote for you.

The neighborhood drug dealer is likeable when he is trying to get your money.
The lounge lizard at the singles bar is likeable to that woman he’s trying to take home.
The sleazy car dealer is likeable while he sells you that lemon.

Ahem

October 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm
trickle down economy,
trickle down government,
whole lotta tricklin goin on…

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Pass the tissues, please.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
10:34 pm

Romney took this debate. President Obama was way too passive.

Get Real

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

Geez…..get a friggin life people

bman

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

TBG lol I get ya

But you know, Newt Gingrich is never likeable.

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

Jay, President Obama just was not prepared for this one.

Divide and Conquer

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

Tealiban, did he specify which country? Income is up in India. ;-)

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

PBS Commentators – Romney presented too much detail

:) .

Well I guess that settles that

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

Polls will show Romney won Rd 1

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

msnbc looks like they want to cry…..priceless

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm

Well I take back my previous post about your prepared Obama victory column and just say your credibility just went up in my book.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

“Romney said those students/young people were always able to be covered.”

I did not hear him say that. But if he was referring to group plans then those 22-26 year old “children” could have their own coverage via either individual plans which are cheaper than a parent’s group plan or they could get coverage through their own group plan at work. You do expect a 22-26 year “child” to have a job right?

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

Orange, I fully agree.

Ahem

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

10:18: Again, Romney better prepared and Obama is oddly passive, failing to strike at his opponent’s vulnerabilities. A strong night for the former governor of Massachusetts. A weak performance by the incumbent.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

As I stated earlier today in response to a member of the loyal opposition: Well, Sumbi+ch.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

Romney pointed out need for regulation

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
10:37 pm

Thudd…..didn’t like the format, neither candidate gained or lost…

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:37 pm

Obama picked the energy losers. Funny!

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:37 pm

“My verdict would be a Romney victory. Maybe it was overconfidence on Obama’s part, but whatever the cause, he performed poorly. If overconfidence was indeed the issue, I doubt that will be the case next time. There’s certainly no cause for it.”–JAY BOOKMAN

I applaud your honesty Jay. By the way, CNN is agreeing with you. :-)

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
10:38 pm

Ahem
tissues or paper towels,
tears or trickles ?

Tealiban Party

October 3rd, 2012
10:38 pm

too much detail??? HA!

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:37 pm

“CNN is agreeing with you.”

So does most of the MSNBC reporters.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm

I don’t think polls will move much though

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm

How do you win a debate with no specific plans?

That does not make sense Jay.

mitt looked at our President with a crazy look in his eyes.

Our President was creeped out.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm

Lets hand out the crying towels to the left side of the aisle and demonstrate we can be good winners.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm

Obama also looked tired and listless. The office does take its toll on people. I just heard a commentator talking about Obama constantly looking down and having a smirk on his face- the same smirk I was referring to that looked bad.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm

UNSHACKLE WALLSTREET, but not all the way

–Mitt Romney

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm

Doom that age group has had a problem finding full time jobs with the mess with the economy.

Divide and Conquer

October 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm

Holy crap! I need to go to bed. I must rest in order to facilitate the transfer of wealth from the slag heap of Dems to the D-bag Repubs via the working class(those of us that still have jobs).

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm

That was fun. Goodnight everyone.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm

Jm,

Unfortunately you are probably right. Way to many disconnected people out there who just don’t give a shyte. And that’s a shame.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm

OMG, The Liberals on CNN are piling on.
They are unanimous that ROMNEY WON the debate!

Mary Elizabeth

October 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm

I agree with Jay’s running assessment of the debate from 9:03 to 10:18 and I agree that from the standpoint of aggressiveness toward his positions, Romney was better than Obama

I also think that Romney correctly stated at the end of the debate that this election will be a choice between two different directions that the country will take. This was not a boxing match. Even if the president lost to Romney, the direction that Romney would take the country would be hurtful to the working and middle class people of this nation.

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm

Chris Matthews is about to explode.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm

bman

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

TBG lol I get ya

But you know, Newt Gingrich is never likeable.
____________________________________
True. Newt just looked smarmy. Is that a real word? :lol:

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm

Chris Matthews is having a meltdown, as is Ed from The Ed Show.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm

“TRICKLE DOWN” government doesn’t work! :-)

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm

Jay 9:48 up above

Being prez does reduce debate prep time

Maybe less time on the golf course :)

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm

“Doom that age group has had a problem finding full time jobs with the mess with the economy”

Exactly. Thank you for making that point.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm

Ryan is gonna smash Biden…I cant wait.

rivercard

October 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm

Not only an ass kicking, but capitulation bordering on outright surrender. Watching Obama morph into George Herbert Bush was painful.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
10:44 pm

“Chris Matthews is having a meltdown, as is Ed from The Ed Show.”

The TRUTH hurts.

Obama LOST the debate and furthermore did not look as Presidential as Mitt Romney.

curious

October 3rd, 2012
10:44 pm

Round 1 to Romney.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm

Romney gets this debate

Obama should not have been soassive.

Still would cut off a body part rather vote Romney

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm

Our President started out slow but woke up in the middle and crushed him at the end.

No specific to mitt’s plans was hammered over and over and mitt’s solutions are let States worry about it.

He agreed with our President too much to win a debate.

Perhaps Jay can write a piece in the morning to detail how mitt won this debate.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm

You know its bad when the folks at CNN are piling on the potus.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm

The most pitiful thing about this whole debate is that these are your choices.

TaxPayer

October 3rd, 2012
10:46 pm

Oops! I missed the debate.

Did Mitt explain how he is going to create 12 milllion jobs. Let me guess. He’s going to get rid of government regulations that are restricting Wall Street from doing what it does best–pawn off mortgage backed securities with faux AAA ratings on an unsuspecting public, etc. And then there’s the horrible regulations against polluting. Those just have to go since we all know that cheap coal and gas are much more valuable to us than our health or life.

Maybe I didn’t really miss anything at all.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Doom

300 million people

Electorate of 240 million or so

Viewership of eligible likely voters: small

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Smarmy
: revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Romney on delivery.
Obama on content.
Romney wins.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Madow making excuses.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

I wonder about the Republican bases’s view of their candidate.

Regulations are good, they are needed, they’re essential to a successful free market.

He won’t cut the education budget.

He’s not cutting top-tier income taxes. He thinks they should keep paying the lion’s share of the taxes.

He likes a lot of the provisions of Obamacare and will keep them.

After all the hoopla dies about ‘our guy won’ they’ll be asking themselves ‘are we sure this is our guy??

Krystal'sBalls

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Romney had the better performance. He was clearly on the attack (and yes a bit angry) with it at times. Obama has gotten his wake up call and will rebound the next. A lot of ground still left to cover. I guess wingnuts might find it hard to believe that Jay and others who support the President could be HONEST and not delusional about this. But then again, that’s the difference between rabid wingnuts and rational people.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm

I meant

Passive

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm

Paul, I agree. As I noted above, Romney made a sudden transition from primary to general-election candidate, and Obama was unprepared for that.

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm

Romney in a walk. Bozo handled this debate like he has handled the presidency…… a cross between the Peter Principle and Affirmative Action. Romney 320….. Bozo 218.

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm

Getalife,
“How do you win a debate with no specific plans?

That does not make sense Jay.

mitt looked at our President with a crazy look in his eyes.

Our President was creeped out.”

Yeah, We don’t want him to do something really hard, like running the country.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm

Obama will probably come back in the next debates….

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

Doom,
My point was that Romney lied about coverage previously available to 22-26 year olds.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

I think that point about 90 billion in tax giveaways to the green industry by American taxpayers was Romney throwing a body blow to Obama. Obama looked like a deer in headlights after that one.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

Sharpton “he lied, its gonna come out, he lied, he is lying, its all lies, look at the lies”.

Madow is congratulating a good performance during the 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter.

LOL…The PMSNBC commentators may break out into a fist fight….

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

Fact checkers said mitt lied and no specifics.

President Obama told the truth.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

Atlanta mom,

I never heard him say that. I believe you may have misheard or misinterpreted him.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

I think Romney was almost “pitch perfect”

Romney missed a few opportunities, but they were minor

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm

Wow…that was a whole lot better than I expected. It actually resembled more of an actual debate than a Q&A session. I have to think a lot of people were happy about that. And I see why Lehrer has retired. I always kind of liked him even though I “knew” he leaned left. I wish him well and good health.

RAMZAD

October 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm

I am a liberal who don’t like a fiber of Romney, but I must admit that Romney made hamburger out of Obama tonight.

The danger for the American voter is that Romney “had all the answers; a sign that the American people is getting lubed up.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm

iggy,

Yeah I was watching Al Sharpton and Rachel. No pretense of fairness there. I watched Fox and there’s no gloating there. They seemed pretty reasoned. The MSNBC folks should just give up any pretense of fairness.

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm

The President took the butt whipping because he is more dignified. LMFAO

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm

Bozo just does not like to have anyone disagree with him. He was clearly not comfortable in this format. Narcissists are like that……. continually looking down and not at his opponent with that smirk on his face. He is too used to having sycophants around him agreeing with his every word. Tonight, it showed.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm

Obama’s close was awful

Most of America did not seeit

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Taxpayer,

You missed the debate? That was pretty clear. Because you certainly missed Mitt state the need for regulations and drone on that we do need regulations.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

I haven’t heard any talk about the bias of the moderator. I wonder will that continue.

wahoo

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

This was a somewhat weird debate. The first third of it almost felt like Romney was the incumbent and Obama the challenger. When Obama talked about things for the future I kept asking myself “why haven’t you tried to do this already – you already are the President”. It was like he was running for office. Romney demonstrated knowledge and grasp of the issues despite the fact that he’s not in the office. I don’t know if it was lack of preparation (Romney was clearly prepared) or distraction, but Obama was not on his A game tonight. Talking heads have commented on this but i definitely caught during the debate that Romney directly talked to Obama but Obama talked at Lehrer. Overall, I thought Romney really helped himself tonight and it seems as though he needed to. Very enjoyable debate overall.

Shane

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Lets talk about healthcare. I pay $5000.00 yr just for me on our current plan and it’s going up and cant afford it. Going to have to cancel my healthcare as of next month. Tell me we are better off this presidential term!

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Smarmy
: revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness

Yup, that’s Newt.

Recon 0311 2533

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Bill Maher says Obama lost and probably needs a teleprompter. Hate to admit that I agree with Maher, but he’s right… or left but right.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm

“Narcissists are like that……. continually looking down and not at his opponent with that smirk on his face”

kayaker,

You hit the nail on the head with that one. But you left out thin skinned.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

“My verdict would be a Romney victory. Maybe it was overconfidence on Obama’s part, but whatever the cause, he performed poorly. If overconfidence was indeed the issue, I doubt that will be the case next time. There’s certainly no cause for it.”

On style and forcefulness more so than on substance. I guess we will need to evaluate the statements of both men over the next few days to determine the latter. But I am just elated the debate was actually somewhat substantive (ironically probably due in part to Lehrer’s inability to control it). I hope the next 2 debates are similarly robust.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

After all the hoopla dies about ‘our guy won’ they’ll be asking themselves ‘are we sure this is our guy??
________________________________________________________________________

Yes, because to them “our guy” = NOT Obama.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

I like this election much more than Bush v Kerry

God that one was absolutely awful

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

TC

I’m sure they both told a few whoppers, but polls will show that the people think Romney won this debate.

Donovan

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

Unfortunately, I can’t convince some people who would cut off a body part rather than vote for Romney, but it’s still not to late to jump on the winning team for the rest of you people.

The man looked more presidential than the president, had more informational understanding of the world, and hit a huge home run .

This is the man who will lead us out of doom and the same man you attack.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

“The President took the butt whipping because he is more dignified..” LMFAO

I heard that one too…hilarious.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

prediction for next debate…..obama listens to msnbc media and comes out attacking romney and shows that he actually isn’t the nice guy the media has been touting and loses even more voters…..eh

Mike in Stone Mtn

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

First time post here. For what’s it worth… as an independent, I thought Mitt was the “winner”. I have paid attention to the campaigns and will listen to the rest of the debates. However, if I had to pick tonight, I would definitely select “R”.

RW-(the original)

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

Maybe this computer isn’t banned so I’ll try a quick comment. Diane Sawyer is either toasted or she’s gone into Obamafail dt’s.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

Obama wasn’t entirely embarrassed. Jay said Obama left too many issues on the table.

Romney left more on the table though. 1. Did he mention the murdered ambassador? 2. Did he mention Obama’s complete inability to pass a budget during the entire course of his life? 3. Did he mention that his own Democrat congress was afraid to even vote on Obama’s budgets?

Romney could have gone for the jugular, gutted and fileted the President.

Even so, the debate was more than sufficient to kick the President’s skinny butt.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

Even the Republicans are getting it wrong here. Romney didn’t do better because Obama performed poorly during the debate. Obama has performed poorly for the last 4 years. 

This isn’t 2008 where he can simply state what he will do if elected President. Its 2012 and he has to defend what he has done, where the country is, and how it got to where it is today. 

If Obama was fumbling and unable to answer questions effectively, it’s because he doesn’t have the answers. 

Donovan

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

P.S. Would you rather cut off a body part or take your chance and move forward with Mitt?

Krystal'sBalls

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

@kayaker

Just curious. How does it feel to know you will go to your grave and rot for eternity while your spirirt lives with the memory that this man Obama was the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, regardless of how much for 4-8 years of your miserable little life you carried around irrational anger because you deemed him not worthy of the office so you felt to reference him in constant contemptuous insult? That will be poetic justice.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

“As I noted above, Romney made a sudden transition from primary to general-election candidate, and Obama was unprepared for that.”

Is that the same as, ‘okay, we’re in the general. What do I have to say to win this thing?”

See you all in the morning.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

Krystal’sBalls

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Romney had the better performance. He was clearly on the attack (and yes a bit angry) – Didn’t they tell us that *angry* was racist?

Obama has gotten his wake up call and will rebound the next. – I agree

A lot of ground still left to cover. I guess wingnuts might find it hard to believe that Jay and others who support the President could be HONEST and not delusional about this. – Did you read some of the comments from those on the left on this very blog? Are you saying they are delusional?

But then again, that’s the difference between rabid wingnuts and rational people. – See above.

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

This is going to get more ugly as the debates progress. One of the best ones will be Ryan and Hairless Joe. Can’t wait to hear Biden defend Bozo’s economic policies against Ryan If Ryan will keep his cool like Romney did tonight, he is a clear winner.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

msnbc’s maddow is blaming the moderator and the debate structure……they are completely stunned

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

“Yeah I was watching Al Sharpton and Rachel. No pretense of fairness there.”

ABC’s analysis was pretty good. I couldn’t stand that on any other channel – including Fox (Shepperd is not the man for this job; should have had Baier or Wallace, but I am guessing they may be moderators in future debates). I have to say: ABC is turning out to be more objective than CBS and, of course, NBC or Fox a lot of the time.

Recon 0311 2533

October 3rd, 2012
11:05 pm

Jm, just goes to show you can never say die.

independent thinker

October 3rd, 2012
11:06 pm

Two reactions that show what a dufus Romney is:
1. There is no guaranty of “pursuit of happiness” in the Constitution as he stated
2. His whole lie about the $716 billion stolen from Medicare fell apart when he said Obama is destroying Medicare Advanatage- the program Bush started that gives profits to private insurers and free gym memberships to seniors but hits them with excessive co-pays and bills Medicare excessive charges.

Anybody know after tonight what tax deductions Romney will cut?
and where exactly are these twelve million jobs being created?Anybody have a better idea?
How come if Romneycare was so fantastic all the other states did not voluntarily adopt it before Obamacare? So now if it is left to the states what magic dust will cause all of them to model Romneycare?

Aside from that Romney did well.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:06 pm

Buckeye,

When I first heard Lehrer interrupt Romney, trying to stop him from rebutting something critical early in the debate, I was glad that Romney commanded the room and went right ahead with his point, saying essentially: “he had the first statement on this question; now you need to let me have the last…” –or something like that.

Romney was in control tonight.

It was very good to see.

As much as he won, I think he still left the debate with several rounds in the chamber. Obama? I don’t think he has much ammo left besides “tax cuts for the rich.” Thanks to the liberal media, the entire country is sick of that incessant cant.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:07 pm

“One of the best ones will be Ryan and Hairless Joe.”

I predict Ryan is going steamroll Biden – he’s a lot quicker on his feet mentally and does not make embarrassing gaffes. It will not be pretty.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:07 pm

The President acted like a President and let mitt lie and did not want to stoop down to mitt’s level.

He had enough about half way through and called out the lies and stooped down to his level.

How many times to mitt say let the States worry about it?

Deregulating the banks got crushed by our President.

Repealing health care got crushed by our President.

The fact checkers crushed mitt’s performance.

You call that winning?

I call it the same ole mitt bs.

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 pm

Krystan’s Balls, 11:02,

I hope to go to my grave knowing that the American electorate was smart enough to ditch this narcissistic buffoon who pretends to be president of this country and replace him with someone who can put this country back to work and restore American confidence in itself. You must not have watched the debate tonight.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 pm

Romney is the winner? Romney was santa claus tonight, everything for for everybody, if you believe that then…

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

Dennis Miller :Obama better hope a Kicked A$$ is covered under Obamacare.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

Recon amen

If Romney wins all three debates this decisively, he MIGHT have a chance to win

If he loses, then one of three things are true

America has tuned out

The voting base has been chopped up and locked up

Obama successfully defined Romney early, and Romney ran an incredibly ineffective ground game

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

“There is no guaranty of “pursuit of happiness” in the Constitution as he stated.”

Just a quick correction, there, it: Romney was explicitly referencing BOTH the DoI and the C when he made those remarks. Go back and review the video.

GT

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

I cannot imagine O was not prepared for the change, but he wasn’t, and I think even more O was guarding a lead, prevent defense. Usually when Romney talks that long he screws up. I also think Romney’s general personality put 40 of the 50 million Americans to sleep. I think you are going to find a huge number of the audience will not like Romney no matter how much energy. Let’s see.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:10 pm

LOL…yup…Ryan will jerk out Joes hairplugs and force feed them to him. Ryan will smash Biden. It will be a total and complete embarrasment for The Obama Whitehouse.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

“Dennis Miller :Obama better hope a Kicked A$$ is covered under Obamacare.”

Miller is a quick wit. Former raving liberal turned moderate.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

Independent thinker,

Guarantee of “pursuit of happiness”? ??

First, it’s in the Declaration of Independence, and that document is inseparable from the Constitution rhetorically. Legally, there is no guarantee of “pursuit of happiness” true, but what kind of crazy point are you trying to make here?

That drug dealers can’t pursue their happiness by selling crack to kids?

We all agree on that one, I would hope.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

jm

Congratulations! While everyone on the right is measuring up the drapes, you are the voice of reason and on point analysis…

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:12 pm

Towncrier:

“…a kicked A$$…”

Best line of the week, month, maybe the year…..

Thanks TC & Dennnis.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
11:12 pm

Obambarrassment
As much as he won, I think he still left the debate with several rounds in the chamber. Obama? I don’t think he has much ammo left besides “tax cuts for the rich.” Thanks to the liberal media, the entire country is sick of that incessant cant.

I disagree. I do feel Romney is more prepared that ANYONE(right, left and middle) realized. But President Obama left a lot on the table by not challenging Romney on specifics..

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

Getalife – You are in Denial. The President did not have a clue tonight.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

Dennis Miller :Obama better hope a Kicked A$$ is covered under Obamacare.
____________________________________________________________
Thass funny as hell, I don’t care who you are. :lol:

St Simons

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

yep, looked like rounds 1-4 of Foreman-Ali.

let’s see how rounds 5-8 go

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

Romney came across as an idiot. Nothing he said added up. Like Obama said, it’s about math and Romeny’s didn’t add up.
No plan, nothing of substance.

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

Doom,
Here you go:
“ROMNEY: Well, actually it’s — it’s — it’s a lengthy description. But, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. Number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. That’s already offered in the private marketplace. You don’t have to have the government mandate that for that to occur.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/presidential-debate-transcript-denver-colo-oct/story?id=17390260&page=6

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

Romney was disrespectful to my president and just spewed a bunch of lies. PBS is racist and so is Jim Leher. Romney was given much more time and just plane lied. Romney is a wolf in sheeps wool. Obama needs to smack him down with all those lies. Lies lies lies. I am so tired to these racist repubs. I am glad Obama is going to cut PBS. Goodbye you bunch of racists at PBS.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

“I’m sure they both told a few whoppers, but polls will show that the people think Romney won this debate.”

Yeah…on a “touchy feely” basis. But emotion can die quickly. That’s when the reliable fact checking will come into play (and be used in the 2nd debate).

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

I love the spin, there was no clear winner, just a lot of back and forth with an over caffienated romney…

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

LMAO!!

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

getalife,

The narcotics and smoke skewed your viewing of the debate.

Proven by the fact you believe prez embarrassment won on bank deregulation.

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:16 pm

Doom,
And my point was yes we did “have to have the government mandate that for that to occur.”

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

individual liberty, individual responsibility, and limited gov’t is what won tonight and what, i hope, wins in nov

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

“I love the spin, there was no clear winner, just a lot of back and forth with an over caffienated romney…”

DId you watch the debate? NBC, PMSNBC, CNN are reeling over Obamas lackluster performance.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

Over the Jay Bookman picture (which ain’t eye candy anyway), there is a picture of Katie Couric.

Blech!

I’d rather look at Bookman to be honest.

I hope they’re paying you lots for that ad, ajc management. Get her off my computer!

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

keep believing that mick

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:18 pm

Acting like a President is not allowed in debates now.

You have to go crazy and attack with lies to “win”.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:18 pm

Mick 11:11 I’m sure that was difficult for yu to say

Duly noted

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 pm

Katie Couric, the miserable little troll…I think Im gonna vomit.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 pm

Train Wreck,

Go stand in line for your government cheese and free phone.

And be very very glad Romney didn’t pull out the big hammer.

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 pm

individual liberty, individual responsibility, and limited gov’t is what won tonight and what, i hope, wins in nov

____________

Limited government? Romney was critical of Wall Street reform because it did not have enough regulation of Wall Street. That’s not less government.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:20 pm

david plouffe doesn’t even believe what he is saying on mbnbc right now and sharpton is saying romeny should be charged with purjury and saying obama is ‘rope-a-doping him’……amazing he has an relevancy left, iguess just in the far left wing…..classic

Old Goober

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

But President Obama left a lot on the table by not challenging Romney on specifics.

And the biggest round left in the chamber was Obama’s failure to point out that insurance companies also have medical “boards” to determine what treatments are covered and even what pharmaceuticals will be given preferential treatment by being included in Tier I, which features the lowest co-pays. Why Obama stood there and allowed Romney to beat him over the head with this “unelected board” nonsense simply baffles me. If you think that insurance companies have no say in how physicians treat ailments, you’re delusional.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

Sharpton is licking his wounds and stating Obama, like Muhammed Ali, was playing “rope a dope”.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

Acting like a President is not allowed in debates now.

You have to go crazy and attack with lies to “win”.

getalife,

You swallowed the bong water maybe?

What in the hell are you talking about?

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

Romney was disrespectful to my president and just spewed a bunch of lies. PBS is racist and so is Jim Leher. Romney was given much more time and just plane lied.

Ooops, MSNBC just announced Obama spoke for four more minutes then Romney.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

david plouffe, what a spinner…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

Obama got steam rolled

Poll movement? Tbd

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

“trickle down economy,
trickle down government,
whole lotta tricklin goin on…”

Even “trickle down” posts…

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

comparing apples to oranges oscar…..the collapse was due to housing derivatives and guess what wasn’t in the financial reform……wait for it…..derivatives…..regulations are needed, but the right direction is not the same as more gov’t and if you are arguing that obama will provide less gov’t than romney, no one will believ you including me right now……try again

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

“Ooops, MSNBC just announced Obama spoke for four more minutes then Romney.”

He wanted 4 more than that to make it 8 ;-)

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:24 pm

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

___

Don’t think you were listening to what they were saying.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:24 pm

” I am glad Obama is going to cut PBS. Goodbye you bunch of racists at PBS.”

LMFAO!!!! Still funny!

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:24 pm

td,

I think it was that Romney’s plane lied, not that he plain lied.

Must be a transportation issue.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:25 pm

“getalife, You swallowed the bong water maybe? What in the hell are you talking about?”

ROFL. Fast times at Ridgemont High…

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:25 pm

CNN Poll: Who won the debate?

65% Romney 25% Obama.

Fact checking caught Obama in several lies.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:26 pm

Obama spoke four more minutes.

And was 1/2 as effective.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:26 pm

Oops, 67% Romney 25% Obama

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:26 pm

“Sharpton is licking his wounds and stating Obama, like Muhammed Ali, was playing “rope a dope”.

No way. For real???

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:26 pm

Racists at PBS??

Now that’s funny.

You know Obama loses when the race card starts getting played–and not just one racist but bunches of them. Oh boy!

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:26 pm

Obambarrassment
Funny

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 pm

PMSNBC Poll, who won the debate

Romney 46%
Obama 32%
Tie 22%

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 pm

Bernie Marcus ad in FL

Hammering at Obama very hard

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 pm

Obambarrassment
Funny at 11:24, I meant

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:28 pm

“No way. For real???”

Yah Way…turn over to PMSNBC…its hilarious. They only let Sharpton “chime-in” occassionally and now we see why. Swear to God…Sharpton said it…Obama playin rope a dope…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 pm

Rope a dope?

I’d say Obama was the dope

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 pm

Yeah, romney will get the gop to vote to help the middle class.

He will change the gop.

Good luck with that.

He is lying thru his false teeth.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 pm

This is hilarious; it’s kinda like when you go fishing and you catch a three pound bass but by the time you start talking about it people would assume its a ten pounder! Romney was not that great, more animated for sure but what about the substance? Severely lacking…

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 pm

“I guess wingnuts might find it hard to believe that Jay and [some] others who support the President could be HONEST and not delusional about this.”

Take note, getalife. Talking to you, I think ;-)

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:31 pm

Romney’s statement that he will repeal the health care act without bringing back pre-existing conditions is just incorrect. It would put us back where we were. Going backwards is not the way to go.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:31 pm

“Jim Lehr was useless, practically criminally negligent”

Howard Fineman PMSNBC policitcal analyst. LMAO!!

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:32 pm

“Racists at PBS?? Now that’s funny. You know Obama loses when the race card starts getting played–and not just one racist but bunches of them. Oh boy!”

I think the post you are referring to was an amateurish attempt at satire or else the post of someone really not smart enough to write.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:32 pm

$17,000 in deductions to at least partially offset his proposed 20 percent reduction in tax rates. I suspect that debate preparations convinced his camp that going into tonight without such details would have left him too exposed…

Now this is funny stuff from our host, Mr. Bookman.

Where in the world were Obama’s statistics today, yesterday or …. ever?

He was going to cut the deficit, heal all international wounds, end wars, lower the sea levels, cure disease, and what did anyone ever ask Barry about? “How do you handle all of the fawning admiration, Mr. President?”

It’s good to have a debate, because the light of reason can finally be force-fed to the “mainstream” press.

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:32 pm

Romney’s statement that he would not reduce the defense budget does not make sense. We spend more that the next eleven nations combined. We can’t afford the defense budget we have now, much less adding to it.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:32 pm

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 pm

This is hilarious; it’s kinda like when you go fishing and you catch a three pound bass but by the time you start talking about it people would assume its a ten pounder! Romney was not that great, more animated for sure but what about the substance? Severely lacking…
___________________________________________________________
Mick, are you saying that they ALL are wrong?

Obama won the debate?

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 pm

Andrew Sullivan:

Look: you know how much I love the guy, and you know how much of a high information viewer I am, and I can see the logic of some of Obama’s meandering, weak, professorial arguments. But this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach, and his effete, wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving Romney a second look.

Obama looked tired, even bored; he kept looking down; he had no crisp statements of passion or argument; he wasn’t there. He was entirely defensive, which may have been the strategy. But it was the wrong strategy. At the wrong moment.

The person with authority on that stage was Romney – offered it by one of the lamest moderators ever, and seized with relish. This was Romney the salesman. And my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. It’s beyond depressing. But it’s true.

littpunk

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 pm

with how corrupt government is I thnk we can all say with government less is more. Obama will take us further down the road to total socialism. Google the cycle of Democracy some time before the election Socialism is what creates dependency and puts a country over the edge, pushes it to far to return to where it was.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 pm

I remember when mondale came out and caught reagan on a bad night; there are two more of these debate things…I guess the cons have been starved for any kind of good news for so long they are lapping up the crumbs…

bman

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 pm

The good news for Romney : the first debate is the most watched.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 pm

“Going backwards is not the way to go.”

Forward, baby (with 4 more years of 8 or more percent unemployment and so on and so on)!

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 pm

Romney’s lack of interest in education was also apparent. We need to train more in science and engineering. Romney would cut back on education and training drastically. We can’t allow that to happen.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
11:34 pm

Mick .. .. I thought there were 4 debates. Only 3?

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:35 pm

What Romney basically said is that he has no health care plan. And he would repeal the plan we have. And replace it with nothing.

Old timer

October 3rd, 2012
11:35 pm

Ok..round one…Romney..he looked at folks..did..not look down andnqctmsmug..

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
11:35 pm

bman

VP debate is probably not a huge decider………..

There is 4, but 3 with Romney and Obama

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:36 pm

that black guy

No, there was no winner…just a meandering back and forth…

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:36 pm

“Yah Way…turn over to PMSNBC…its hilarious.”

Barack “rope-a-dope” Obama – I like that. He is going to say in press conferences leading up to the next debate that he will “sting like a bee”.

Old timer

October 3rd, 2012
11:37 pm

ForWard =Marx….

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:38 pm

“VP debate is probably not a huge decider…”

Unless, of course, Biden really steps in it with a bad gaffe. That will leave a mark.

Rightwing Troll

October 3rd, 2012
11:38 pm

Romney won. Can’t put any other way than that…

Rightwing Troll

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 pm

It’s quite sad how Romney managed to win with so little substance, other than a lot of numbered steps…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 pm

Best lines

My friend talks about picking winner and losers, but you just pick the losers

Your policies are trickle down government

:D

bman

October 3rd, 2012
11:40 pm

TBS .. .. Oh, thanks.

People think Ryan will dominate Biden. I predict Ryan will do well, but Biden will do okay. He is not bad at debating the issues….not at all.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

**Romney won. Can’t put any other way than that…**

What exactly did he win? Nobody still knows the truth of his “plan”. I suspect its just say yes to everything a republican house comes up with…

Lecresha

October 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

I thought both gentlemen were extremely impressive tonight. I have been watching televised presidential debates since Nixon/Kennedy and this one was far and away the most cerebral. You really had to pay attention, they sounded like a couple of policy wonks.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:36 pm

that black guy

No, there was no winner…just a meandering back and forth…
________________________________________________
So all those reporting, on BOTH sides, are wrong?
Along with the polls?

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:41 pm

Seventy per cent of our budget is defense, medicare and social security. And Romeny wants to increase spending for defense, and does not want to cut medicare or social security, and wants to cut taxes so we will have less revenue.
And he was critical of Obama for cutting medicare.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:42 pm

“What Romney basically said is that he has no health care plan. And he would repeal the plan we have. And replace it with nothing.”

I have no problem with that.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:43 pm

Matthews:

“Where was Obama tonight? He should watch — well, not just Hardball, Rachel, he should watch you, he should watch the Reverend Al [Sharpton], he should watch Lawrence. He would learn something about this debate. There’s a hot debate going on in this country. You know where it’s been held? Here on this network is where we’re having the debate,” Matthews said.

“We have our knives out,” Matthews said, admitting his network is trying their best to defend Obama and his policies. “We go after the people and the facts. What was he doing tonight? He went in their disarmed.”

ROFL. Wow…objective journalism at its best.

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:43 pm

I have no problem with that.

______

You like the pre-existing conditions clauses in insurance. Seventy five per cent of Americans don’t.

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:44 pm

Yeah laugh it up now cons, Obama still wins hands down in the only thing that counts, election nite baby! Give Obama his 4 minutes and he,d bury that idiot Romney. No I don’t have a phone or cheese from Obama you racist pigs, I pay for everything I have because ill work just as hard as you.

I especially like the “I will repeal Obama care”, ” but I have no idea what I would do instead”. Hey cons, Obama care is Romney care, it was a copy of Rom nuts own idea. Now he is going to repeal it. Just classic. He loses on this alone.

Mo O in o’12!

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:44 pm

“I thought both gentlemen were extremely impressive tonight. I have been watching televised presidential debates since Nixon/Kennedy and this one was far and away the most cerebral. You really had to pay attention, they sounded like a couple of policy wonks.”

Agreed. It was a good debate.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:44 pm

This debate was a snorer….give mitt credit, he seemed much more juiced up but….like I said before the santa claus willard is just not a believable alternative…

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:45 pm

I thought Obama looked disinterested.

As if he would win by sheer Obamaness.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:46 pm

I don’t believe a word mitt say.

I listened to all his lies before and know it is bs because I checked them out.

I am consistent.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:47 pm

Mick

Several commentators: policy wonk Romney had too many specifics

Dude, you’ve consumed too much koolaid

The same people whining about Romney specifics have asked nothing of Obama

And this is politics

There is only going to be so much detail

Get over it

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:47 pm

Regarding Romney being exposed:

If Obama had really tried to push the issue about Romney’s supposed tax cuts not jiving with budget deficits, I could only imagine my dream reply coming from Romney’s mouth:

“You know what Mr. President, you’re right. It’s going to take a bipartisan effort to get this done and it will be difficult in Washington, as you already know. But what are you talking about here? Me not being able to cut the deficit? You sir, have shown that not only do you not have the skills, ability or desire to cut the deficit, but neither does your party. In witness to this, you and your party’s congressional leaders have not passed a budget since you took office. In fact, my running mate’s budget received more bipartisan support in both houses of Congress in one year than any of your unrealistic budgets have in four.

We’ve tried it your way, Mr. President, but on this subject, you have shown yourself to be entirely capable of leading from the front or from behind. It seems, Mr. President that you are simply sitting on the sidelines, watching the deficit inflate and trying to pick apart any earnest plan authored by anyone who disagrees with you.

Whap, Bam!

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:47 pm

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:44 pm

LMAO!! You crackin me up!! Keep em coming.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:48 pm

The President said his big tax plan is now nevermind.

Fact check that.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:48 pm

Micks reaction will be typical for the left

That’s ok, Romney needs the independents

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:49 pm

Towncrier
“Unless, of course, Biden really steps in it with a bad gaffe. That will leave a mark”
And goodness knows, it’s quite possible.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

Those PMSers are making more excuses and getting more giddy by the minute.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

Mick,

I could feel Americans changing the channel after 5 minutes.

They had no idea who won and it was boring.

Some crazy guy with crazy eyes lying.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

Ok lights out

Good job Romney

gm

October 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

Wow, Romney fooled the wing nuts on the right all year with I will appeal Obama care, yet loves most of Obama care, then he embrace Obama care bragging how he helped Mass.

If I was a right winger I would say Rick S. was right about this guy, one thing about Obama hate or love him he has been consistant in what he believes in, I hope the people in the swing states got a good look at Mitt, especially if you are under 65 and worried about medicade this guy will turn the program up side down.

Obama let this guy put his foot in his mouth, while he continued to speak to seniors, students, minorties, and these right winger believe they really won, ha, ha,

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:51 pm

bman,

Biden’s not bad at debating the issues, huh?

That’s an unqualified statement if I ever saw one.

We’ll see if he is, especially if he’s even debating the issues the moderator or Ryan are asking about.

Biden is the gift that keeps on giving… It’s like Obama’s present to conservatives.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:52 pm

“thought Obama looked disinterested.”

Yeah, he does have a job.

Probably thinking about engaging Syria or something bigger than a debate.

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:52 pm

Romney said more than once, he’s reducing tax rates and reducing deductions. WHAT DEDUCTIONS?
I can tell you as a middle class American (with no mortgage deduction because we had a 15 yr mortgage and paid it off), I will break even under Romney’s plan (such as folks can figure out what it is).
If I have a mortgage interest deduction, I would be paying a lot more under Romney’s plan

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:53 pm

“Hey cons, Obama care is Romney care, it was a copy of Rom nuts own idea.”

You have clearly eaten too much cheese.

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:53 pm

Romney duped no one but the cons he already had in his corner. The racist slant of PBS is only going to sway undecided people his way. Big bird is racist and a right wing nut. Boycott PBS! Leher needs to go back to his casket.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:53 pm

jm

My reaction is that romney still didn’t say what he would cut, that’s a fact. If an independent still hasn’t made up their mind, then so be it. There are two more of these and the testosterone lovefest for romney here is a bit over the top, but hey he’s your guy, have some fun with it while it lasts…

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:54 pm

Well, Jay….I guess you are turning out to have been wrong about the attention the 07 Obama tape would get:

=http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/us/politics/07-talk-by-obama-resurfaces-renewing-questions-on-race.html?hp&_r=0

=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/81973.html

Sorry, but it is going to matter some. Maybe not as much as the Romney tape, but I suspect it will leave a mark nonetheless.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:54 pm

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:52 pm

You dont know what you are talking about.

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:56 pm

Iggy you con hannity drudge loving fool, crawl back under your trailer and listen to some country music!

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:56 pm

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:53 pm

Big Bird a racist….I KNEW IT!!! DAMN U BIG BIRD!!!

LMAO!!!

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:56 pm

“And goodness knows, it’s quite possible.”

To this very day, I have not understood why Obama chose Biden as his running mate. In some respects, he strikes me as bad a choice as Palin was.

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:57 pm

Towncrier,
I watched that entire tape, and all that God talk bothered me a lot more than any of that other nonsense the right wing wants me to be bothered about.

Hoover is my hero

October 3rd, 2012
11:58 pm

Was the contest about who could interupt the moderator the most times? Romney wins that one. I guess it’s ok to be arrogant if you’re not black (then it would be “uppity”).

gm

October 3rd, 2012
11:58 pm

There is no way lib would let a person during primary say one thing to the base then get on stage in general and support the things he hated, this shows the mentality of the right voters.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
11:59 pm

Atl mom,

You clearly misunderstood Romney. He was talking about his plan. He wasn’t saying that kids nowadays can get individual coverage with pre-existing conditions throughout the country. It looks like you were hearing what you wanted to hear.

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:59 pm

What’s wrong iggy, night shift at the porn parlor going slow tonight? Obama wins in a landslide….guaranteed. Dudnt that piss u off?

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:59 pm

igggy,
Maybe you could elucidate? As a CPA in my former life, I feel I’m on pretty comfortable grounds here.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:00 am

Atlanta Mom,

Tomorrow Team Obama is going to be in full panic mode. I’ll bet they have an emergency sedative to pump into Biden’s arm on debate night if Biden starts to go into full Biden-mode.

One difficulty Ryan has is that you just can’t prepare for the load of fabricated whole-crap that’s going to come out of Biden’s mouth. I think it was all Sarah Palin could do to appear unruffled when he argued his complete nonsense last year, and I really look forward myself to giving here on this blog, concrete examples of the absurdity that is Joe Biden next week after that debate.

Barack Obama isn’t a stupid fellow, at least not seemingly, but one mark against someone, a mark that indicates that they are a poor leader or manager is to hire an inept individual and give that person real authority to really screw up something huge. Joe Biden is that indication–and Eric Holder may be too, time will tell. Van Jones was.

I love Biden because he’s the reliable and visible signpost that says, “Obama’s really not that good a President” if he selected this guy from all other Americans to be his veep.

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:00 am

“I guess it’s ok to be arrogant if you’re not black (then it would be “uppity”).”

You knew they could only go so long before injecting race into it.

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:02 am

Very smart Obama during the whole debate he kept saying how he would defend seniors and students and the middle class, sure Mitt you won the debate but Obama won with the middle class””””’

They BOTH suck

October 4th, 2012
12:04 am

Train Wreck

I will be voting for Obama, but you are a putz……………..

Damn man. Quit the crying. I still think it is Obama’s race to lose, but he he did lose this round.

Get over it

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:04 am

Yo Iggy the twiggy racist con job – notice this is a blog for free thinkers and intelligent people? Take your crap to faux news or pbs and be with your own deplorable kind. What are you, leher’s baby daddy or Something?

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:04 am

Chris Matthews is still having seizures.

Atlanta Mom

October 4th, 2012
12:05 am

Doom,
I don’t get it. I’m not talking about pre-existing conditions. I am talking about children (that’s some much easier to say than sons and daughters) who may not otherwise have coverage. In my case, three daughters (okay, I admit it) in graduate school. Romney said “Number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. That’s already offered in the private marketplace. You don’t have to have the government mandate that for that to occur.”
That was not offered in the market place until it was mandated.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:05 am

Towncrier,

100 times worse than Palin.

Palin was merely a fresh and capable hand brought into a national spotlight she wasn’t ready for. Biden’s a crusty old barnacle who’s outlived whatever usefulness he had existing as a Washington man all of his adult working life. …. and he’s at least 100 times more gaffe happy and 10 times as stupid as Sarah Palin was ever portrayed to be.

If McCain was a good candidate, Sarah Palin would have been a non-issue.

The great thing about Biden is that he is a screaming, glaring crack in the imperious facade that is the Obama administration–that neither the media nor Obama himself seem to take notice of.

My guess is that Obama kept Biden around only because Valerie Jarrett and Michelle and Barack aren’t threatened by such a dim-witted fellow in their hip pocket.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:06 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:04 am

LMAO!!!! Too funny!!

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:06 am

Now they are going back to figure out what mitt said and it does not make any sense.

Duh.

They BOTH suck

October 4th, 2012
12:06 am

“notice this is a blog for free thinkers and intelligent people?”

Then it is time for you to ban yourself based on that criteria……

Thanks for acknowledging that.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:06 am

Put another way, Biden is always undressing the emperor, until a little boy notices and starts laughing at the whole spectacle.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:08 am

gm 1202,

Dream on. Dream until your dreams come true, man.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:08 am

Yet our President was consistent.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:08 am

56% say their opinion of non-commited voters have changed their views on Romney – Chris Matthews.

Towncrier

October 4th, 2012
12:09 am

“One difficulty Ryan has is that you just can’t prepare for the load of fabricated whole-crap that’s going to come out of Biden’s mouth.”

Here is what you might get from VP Biden in his debate:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2012/08/11/ryan_vs_biden

It is scary, really.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:09 am

Both suck troll- Obama lost? Where’s your facts? He didn’t lose he was treated unfairly and the disrespect by PBS was near criminal. He is the president. It was and is clear Jim Leher was pro Romney. Obama tried to be respectful and even looked at him with a finger raised and he got no response. This was rigged. Rewatch for yourself and turn off faux news.

Mo O in 0′12!

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:10 am

56% of non-committed voters say their opinion of Romney has changed. Chris Matthews.

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:11 am

That was not offered in the market place until it was mandated.

________

That’s exactly right. I had two daughters in graduate school and had to buy each of them individual policies that were not cheap. Just glad they had no pre-existing conditions that I couldn’t cover out of my pocket.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:11 am

PBS is chock full of criminals, or so I hear. And they are racist criminals…LMAO!!

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:11 am

He will not reduce taxes on the wealthy was a whopper.

I think everything he said in this debate was a lie.

The economist

October 4th, 2012
12:11 am

Tell me again how Romney’s repeating of GW Bush’s economic ideas is going to work out better this time. I’m sure it will help certain people, but most investors and many workers were crushed back in 2008. Tell me why I want to give those guys another 4 years to finish what they started?

They BOTH suck

October 4th, 2012
12:11 am

Train Wreck

You probably do not even vote……….. You are just a troll

Atlanta Mom

October 4th, 2012
12:12 am

” a crusty old barnacle ”
I love it. Describes my father in law.

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:12 am

56% of non-committed voters say their opinion of Romney has changed. Chris Matthews.

______

My opinion of him changed too. He is much worse than I thought or imagined.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:13 am

Like Teddy Kennedy, Obama doesnt wanna be President, he just doesnt want anyone else being President.

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:13 am

“Romney’s statement that he would not reduce the defense budget does not make sense. We spend more that the next eleven nations combined. We can’t afford the defense budget we have now, much less adding to it”

Oscar,

I agree with you on this. I don’t see how we are going to make serious dents in the deficit without cutting into defense. My theory is that Romney is playing possum on the defense issue and will realize if he gets in that we cannot get to a balanced budget without cutting some serious stuff in defense.

But I do disagree with you on education spending. We are spending more per pupil on an inflation adjusted basis then we ever have- and getting poorer results. The problem is not money related.

Additionally ever since the govt got in the business of subsidizing college costs have escalated. If you study the economics of higher education you will see that the more the govt subsidizes higher education the more expensive it gets. 600 colleges and universities now have rock climbing walls. The subsidizing of education is in effect not going into a better product but into more amenities as colleges compete for students. Quit subsidizing it and the costs will fall. Last on that subject the student loan fiasco is the next great bubble with roughly a trillion in student loan debt owed.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:13 am

The economist,

They will finish the job.

If they win, stock up on supplies.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:14 am

Mathews is now raggin on Obama…Wow.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:16 am

TBS, Train Wreck is, well…a Brain Wreck. :lol:

Sometime all you can say is “Just Damn”.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:17 am

Iggy twiggy- come back mid November when O has handed it to romnuts and see how clever you are? $uck it B1tch!

Usmc

October 4th, 2012
12:17 am

Can’t wait to see how Jay spins the dradle in tomorrow’s blog article… Should be a doozy! :-)

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:17 am

The economist,

And please tell me again how a top down centralized approach and govt printing press is going to work? It not only hasn’t worked the last 4 years but real incomes have been reduced almost 10% because of the money printing press. And the debt has run up 5 trillion. And btw under W the economy grew along with low unemployment until the housing bubble burst. And the speculative housing bubble is a separate issue altogether and is not something that started under W. Go do some research on it and you will see that it was a phenomenon that goes way back and has plenty of blame to go around.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:18 am

Our President was consistent and mitt lied the whole debate.

They will go back and look at what mitt said to see it was all bs.

I already know because I heard it before.

Declaring mitt the winner for lying is bizarre but so is American politics.

Towncrier

October 4th, 2012
12:18 am

“The great thing about Biden is that he is a screaming, glaring crack in the imperious facade that is the Obama administration–that neither the media nor Obama himself seem to take notice of.”

His debate is going to hurt Obama’s chances a little. And neither of these candidates can afford to be hurt even a little. If the ME blows up, the Libyan attack on the consulate turns out to be something of a cover-up, the new F&F Univision story gains wings or Spain goes under in the next few weeks, then it is probably all over for Obama (unless Romney screws up very badly).

And, as I have suggested, the polls may have been intentionally skewed the past month or so but cannot afford to be much longer (to maintain credibility). See this article for some interesting thoughts on this:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/01/Media-Respond-to-Being-Challenged-on-Poll-Data

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:19 am

CNN

67% Romney won
22% Obama won

ld

October 4th, 2012
12:19 am

Obama lost; Romney dominated to the point of being the schoolyard bully beating up on the moderator with Obama not having much success in his own efforts to be equally rude.

Romney, I believe, does understand the economy enough to “fix it”; however, despite his effort at building a broad tent tonight (economicly speaking) everything Romney said during the GOP primary indicates he would “fix” the rat race for the ongoing benefit of the wealthiest among us to the substantial detriment of the employee class. Some stink you cannot wash off.

We REALLY do need a VIABLE third party candidate in 2016..

Usmc

October 4th, 2012
12:19 am

Obama looked VERY weak. It’s tough for Obama to speak Without a teleprompter. :-)

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:20 am

Black guy- only thing black on you is your sox. Troll.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:20 am

My Favorite Bidenism’s (from that list) has got to be :

“When the stock market crashed and… Roosevelt went on TV.”

How do you debate that? I suppose Ryan’s got to have a good laugh up his sleeve just in case Biden says something really dopey like, “Barack America!”

And the press standing around analyzing this guy like he’s serious is just too too funny. It’s open season on the liberal media too with JB around.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:21 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:17 am

Iggy twiggy- come back mid November when O has handed it to romnuts and see how clever you are? $uck it B1tch!
________________________________________
Dems, take note.

This is one of yours.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:21 am

” the polls may have been intentionally skewed the past month”

Agree 100%!! The polls dont reflect those who state they will vote for the Prez and have no intention of showing up at the voting booth.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:22 am

Train Wreck,

Only think American about you is your license for free speech–well, for yourself, anyway.

Only thing civil about you is….
..

….. well, evidence has yet to be found.

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:23 am

Idiots on the right take the poll now with seniors, students and the middle class, Obama game plan was perfect, no matter how hyper Mitt was Obama kept saying I am here to help the middle class.

They BOTH suck

October 4th, 2012
12:23 am

“And btw under W the economy grew along with low unemployment until the housing bubble burst.”

Because a huge part of that economy was that bubble: directly and indirectly

PERIOD

Not his fault, but it was the bubble

With that: Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow

Usmc

October 4th, 2012
12:23 am

The left wing Loonies on msnbc are freaking out! The liberals saw the writing on the wall tonight!

Towncrier

October 4th, 2012
12:23 am

“I agree with you on this. I don’t see how we are going to make serious dents in the deficit without cutting into defense. My theory is that Romney is playing possum on the defense issue and will realize if he gets in that we cannot get to a balanced budget without cutting some serious stuff in defense.”

Agreed, TD. But there is plenty of fat to cut out of the military complex – PLENTY – and still keep it strong. Defense contractors RAPE the government many times and that has to stop.

“But I do disagree with you on education spending. We are spending more per pupil on an inflation adjusted basis then we ever have- and getting poorer results. The problem is not money related. ”

Agreed again. Good thoughts.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:24 am

“Iggy twiggy- come back mid November when O has handed it to romnuts and see how clever you are? $uck it B1tch!”

LMAO!

Mathews is getting pissed at his cohorts who continue with the spinning.

Sid

October 4th, 2012
12:24 am

Not a big fan of Romney, but he HAS to win next month. Ryan will mop the floor with Biden, that goes without saying. I was shocked at the lack of courage Obama showed in standing his ground for his principles and his view of what America should be. Let his record speak for itself. There was no liberal media producing him in good fashion, and there was no teleprompter telling him what to say as the great orator he is…when reading words. A paper tiger president if there ever were one. And we are all paying for it dearly.

They BOTH suck

October 4th, 2012
12:24 am

TBG

The left will claim him, like many on the right that claim some of the right leaning loons that pass through

Not at all.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:24 am

“The left wing Loonies on msnbc are freaking out! The liberals saw the writing on the wall tonight!”

Yeah they are and yeah they do.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:24 am

That black guy,

It may be that tomorrow Mr. Bookman bans Train Wreck for saying so many stupid, vapid and vulgar things.

He really should–if for no other reason than the evidence that leftists are out of their minds.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:25 am

Watched 11 alive after debate. They showed some bar in Roswell with rap music in the background. I was at a Democratic Party and no rap music with several white people. Media goes to some random bar for Obama supporter comments. Atlanta media sucks!

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:25 am

“I am talking about children (that’s some much easier to say than sons and daughters) who may not otherwise have coverage. In my case, three daughters (okay, I admit it) in graduate school. Romney said “Number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. That’s already offered in the private marketplace. You don’t have to have the government mandate that for that to occur.”

Atl mom,

Now I see what you are saying. Still doesn’t make much sense to me though. What’s to stop a child from going out and getting his or her own individual insurance policy which is darn cheap for a 25 year old? And in the past I know that students up to 22 years old were covered under their parent’s plan as long as they were full time students. At least that’s the way it was when I was in college. And when you’re 25 or 26 usually you are working full time. And there are lots of people getting masters degrees while working full time which I thought was kinda normal. Those people would be covered by the group plans where they work. I mean at what point does a 20 something become an adult and responsible for their own bills like health insurance which is dirt cheap for a 20 something anyway.

Usmc

October 4th, 2012
12:25 am

Sid, you nailed it! Obama is a paper Tiger, etc.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:26 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:20 am

Black guy- only thing black on you is your sox. Troll.
___________________________________________
What are sox? Are you talking about the Red Sox or the White Sox?
Sorry, I don’t do baseball. Boring.

Do you know what a troll is?

Towncrier

October 4th, 2012
12:26 am

“Mathews is getting pissed at his cohorts who continue with the spinning.”

He gets a bit too angry at times; I sometimes think if he had a gun, he might use it. Very unprofessional much of the time. Hannity is a hack, but I never feel he is on the verge of losing self control. Does anyone else feel that way about Matthews?

Sid

October 4th, 2012
12:27 am

“Yet our President was consistent” – getalife

Consistent at being a failure.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:27 am

The line of the night was “nevermind”.

Hilarious.

They BOTH suck

October 4th, 2012
12:28 am

TC

I doubt that much will be cut out of the militarty budget…….

One it is back door Keynesian economics that produces jobs via the contractors and the military directly. Neither party wants to call it that, but it is that exactly……

Two: Those contractors spend a ton of money lobbying

It will be cut, but I doubt as much as needed

And with that, I’m gone

Towncrier

October 4th, 2012
12:29 am

“Watched 11 alive after debate. They showed some bar in Roswell with rap music in the background. I was at a Democratic Party and no rap music with several white people. Media goes to some random bar for Obama supporter comments. Atlanta media sucks!”

Yeah, I saw that too. I didn’t see a single white or Hispanic or Asian person in the place. Not the best impression given the release of the full 07 Obama video. It should have been a mixed crowd.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:29 am

I said nothing vulgar. Oops I did say Romney- now that is vulgar. I should be banned….lmfao

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:29 am

Why do 20 to 25 year olds even need insurance, other the catastrophic, if that. They are usually the most healthy group around, injured the least, least deaths, sickness, disabilities etc. Obama has duped his own supporters and conned them into believing insurance for this select group is out of reach.

I will admit its a good way for his sheep to pay assist in paying for ObamaCare.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:30 am

sid,

No, consistent in his positions.

Read what mitt actually said, if you are a true conservative you should be upset.

He took a had left .

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 4th, 2012
12:30 am

Getalife – You are such a poor loser? Why not pat the other guy on the back and say good job. Instead of whining like a little girl? Maybe the Pres could sing and dance a little to off-set tonite’s debate?

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:31 am

I hope Train Wreck isnt banned cuz he is cracking me up. “Lehr needs to crawl back into his casket”.

LMAO!!

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:32 am

Sox – thanks for taking the bait black guy….if were black you’d understand the reference. Consider yourself outed.

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:33 am

Ohio, Mich and Florida those are the people Obama was talking to and he nailed it, Mitt did nothing in those states to change the race, those 47% ads will still be showing from now till Nov.

Who care about the conservatives voters in Ga, Ky, Miss, Al, la, Wv Obama does not even campaign in these red neck states”””””

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:33 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:33 am

Iggy- still no customers at Con-porn inc? Lmao!

St Simons

October 4th, 2012
12:34 am

The pushy loud rude bully down here at the yacht club

‘wins’ all the debates here, too. He can’t get elected to ANYthing.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:35 am

Now a cast of idiots on PMS…Mostly young stupid voters.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:35 am

Gm- nailed it brother. These hicks celebrating and don’t even know the game. Love it!

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

Yo, St Simons, I am a neighbor across the way on B street!

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

“Obama does not even campaign in these red neck states”

We can always predictably count on gm for some good ole fashioned racial hatred.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

FL, OH, VA, WI will go to the Reps…Sorry, YOU LOSE!!

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

Whats amazing is you have all these hypocrite veterans who are enjoying the progams Obama put in place yet hate him, W did nothing for vetrans yet these mental people licked his behind oh, I forgot he was white and it was ok to be stupid”””’

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

And a fellow jacket fan!

Towncrier

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

Okay, guys. I am probably going to take a break from this blog for a bit – maybe until after the election. Thanks to everyone who deigned to debate me at any length on any issue (given my impulsiveness and rudeness at times). And thanks Jay for hosting a really free blog. May the best man win!

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:38 am

Dont know about Redneck States, however, in GA I see Obama commercials everyday.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:38 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:32 am

Sox – thanks for taking the bait black guy….if were black you’d understand the reference. Consider yourself outed.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Yes, because ALL Black people know what that means.
ALL Black people act the same.
ALL Black people think the same.
ALL Black people use ALL the references.

We are ALL the same…

To bigots.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:39 am

Iggy- lay off the crack pipe. Fl OH and MI ain’t redneck GA! Landslide Obama!

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:39 am

My favorite Obamabasm that is now coming undone:

“He’s sort of like god.”

St Simons

October 4th, 2012
12:39 am

the 6 mil undecideds have to be won over, not bullied or talked down to.

cons do not seem to understand this. oh well

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:39 am

Tom,

I actually listen to the words not the style.

He was more rested and a bit overcaffinated and he bullied Jim.

He did change some of his positions to move left but used many of the same lies already debunked.

He does not care about fact checkers.

I thought the highlight of the night was a trailer I saw about the new Lincoln movie with Lewis playing Lincoln. That looked very good. This debate was the same ole crap.

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:40 am

Surprise – black guy outed as racist redneck!

Atlanta Mom

October 4th, 2012
12:40 am

Doom,
In my case, two of children are working on their doctorates (in STEM studies-yes, they will have a job when they finish), the third is working on her undergraduate and will then go on to graduate school. The way health insurance works, there’s no difference if you cover 1 or 3 children, the price is the same.
But, my children aren’t the point. It’s the children who do not have jobs that offer benefits, for whatever reason.
And, my original point stands. A government mandate was necessary.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:41 am

Same here TCrier. Im out.

Train Wreck, its gonna be cold so sleep extra close to Mommy, tonite. ;)

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:41 am

Thulsa Doom

guilty as charged

FL, OH, VA, WI will go to the Reps

News flash, Obama has a 10 point lead in Ohio, these people unlike the southern conservates hate filled idiots, appreciate the fact their jobs were saved, count how many times Obama used the word middle class”””””

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:41 am

“I forgot he was white and it was ok to be stupid”

Undeterred gm doubles down on the racial hate.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:42 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:37 am

Yo, St Simons, I am a neighbor across the way on B street!
______________________________________________
St Simons, I guess they haven’t gotten around to spraying B street yet, huh?

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:43 am

Listening to MSNBC.

Fizzle, fizzle, crap, *spark*, zap,

ssssssssssssss………..

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:44 am

guilty as charged- gm

Well gm I’ll admit this. I at least I have a little respect for someone who admits to being an open racist as opposed to someone who is but acts like he isn’t. At least we know where you’re coming from.

iggy

October 4th, 2012
12:44 am

And please AJC, take down the pics of that miserable, ugly little troll, Katie Couric.

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:45 am

Al Sharpton looks like one of those fish from Finding Nemo

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:45 am

Obama 2012. Peace out folks. I am outa here! For the cons, hope you can sleep on that guilty conscious!

Atlanta Mom

October 4th, 2012
12:45 am

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:45 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:40 am

Surprise – black guy outed as racist redneck!
_____________________________________
Please tell me what makes you think that I am not Black.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
12:45 am

crier,

That is what everybody says but they always come back.

Blogging is addictive.

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:46 am

Thulsa Doom

I have accepted the fact that with you people anyone who tells you the truth are a racist it is your ecape card from the truth””’

St Simons

October 4th, 2012
12:47 am

they cut out (funding) mosquito spraying for about a month,

then quickly realized what a stupid con idea that was

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:47 am

Oh and for black guy- you wish you could live on st Simons. Back to the trailer park Barney.

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:50 am

Thulsa Doom

________

College costs are a problem. And student loans have been missused and do correlate with the increasing costs of college.
Kids borrow hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to private colleges. Just does not make sense.
It’s a problem that needs working own. I would limit student loans. No one should be loaned money to go to a private college.
Govt. can help direct training in computers, math and science. We need more trained people for highly skilled jobs.

gm

October 4th, 2012
12:50 am

Obambarrassment

Please tell me what causes ,march or even going to the streets for anything has ex druger, high school drop out Rush Limbaugh has ever done?, oh, I know he spew up hate to lower, middle class whites while he sits behind his desk and make millions off you idiots

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
12:50 am

I definitely think New York should ban Mr. Matthews from gun ownership. He’s unhinged for sure.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:50 am

Train Wreck

October 4th, 2012
12:47 am

Oh and for black guy- you wish you could live on st Simons. Back to the trailer park Barney.
___________________________________________
Yes I do. St Simons is beautiful.

But for now I’m cool in the house I am in.

But please tell me why you think I am not Black.

Ray Tardinski

October 4th, 2012
12:52 am

Where the heck is Jay? Even he would be embarrassed at the Wreck. Oh wait a minute, Jay would defend him as a victim of republican policies.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:52 am

St Simons

October 4th, 2012
12:47 am

they cut out (funding) mosquito spraying for about a month,

then quickly realized what a stupid con idea that was
__________________________________________
That is a stupid idea.

You should do like me and not vote for “cons”.

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:53 am

Black Guy

We are ALL the same…

_______
\

If you are not all the same why is it that I can’t tell you apart?

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
12:53 am

Atlanta mom,

That’s great that you want pre-existing covered. But you better understand that there is a cost for it. And that the law of unintended consequences is at work. I’m an insurance agent and have written lots of individual health insurance policies in the past though I specialize now in Medicare plans and am branching more into the financial side- going back to get my series 7. But I digress. The thing is that what a lot of people don’t know is that 5 states- Ny, Nj, Vermont, Mass, and 1 other have had mandatory coverage for pre-existing conditions for quite a while now. And guess what? Overall premiums for those states is if I remember correctly 200-300% higher and are community rating oriented. I can look up some sample quotes for those states when I get back on Friday- today I’m out of town. And the thing about is that the younger folks starting out pay inflated premiums while the seniors pay lower premiums because of the younger workers. So the reality is that for the young people that you speak of rates are going to be substantially higher when Aca kicksin in 2014. The previous examples of the other 5 states proves what will inevitably happen. So if rates are going to go up for young people how many are going to be able to afford it in 2014 when they can’t afford it now at the substantially lower rates of today? This was not very carefully thought through and most people don’t know that we already have evidence of what it will do to premiums. If you or others think rates are going to be cheaper then I’m here to let you know that the empirical evidence says you got sold a bill of goods.

St Simons

October 4th, 2012
12:54 am

dude, these are EVERY Georgian’s Golden Isles

everyone can come here – We’re All in This Together mon

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:56 am

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:53 am

Black Guy

We are ALL the same…

_______
\

If you are not all the same why is it that I can’t tell you apart?
___________________________________________
Sorry, not following.

Can you be more specific?

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:57 am

n GA I see Obama commercials everyday.

_____________

I never see any. What channels do you watch? Wait, I watch mostly movies where they don’t have commericals. That could explain it.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:58 am

Oscar, I think I get it.

That was a joke, right?

Ken

October 4th, 2012
12:58 am

Muhammad Ali punch. Go Mitt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Obamas defence, Obama was an easy target.

Oscar

October 4th, 2012
12:59 am

Sorry, not following.

Can you be more specific?

___________

That was a joke. Just trying to be funny. You never heard anyone say “They look all the same to me.” Blacks say it about whites as well. All races have problems with other races in identifying individuals. Studies have verified that.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
12:59 am

Obambarrassment

October 4th, 2012
1:00 am

Train wreck,

I’ll point our your invective to Mr. Bookman tomorrow. You’re repulsive, and if you want to come back here, you need a new name, a new email and most of all, a new attitude.

Just get out. You have no place debating, because what you are doing is pure personal, racist, hateful insults.

Just quit.

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
1:01 am

Atl mom,

One other thing that I forgot to mention. I told everyone a year ago that what is going to happen is rates are going to rise to about 20k for a family of 4 per year for an employer and that a lot of employers will simply drop their group coverage. Its already started to happen. Yesterday Sears and a large restaurant parent company dropped group health coverage and instead will just give a monthly amount to employees to go get their own coverage. The result which we are already starting to see is that many adults are going to lose their group coverage. Another unintended consequence of the law.

Last one of my good friends asked me to write a policy a few days ago for him and his 2 daughters, He has to provide insurnance for them as part of his divorce decree. But he already has coverage through the VA. But because of ACA the health insurnace companies quit selling child only policies so now he cannot get coverage for his 2 kids due to this unintended consequence. So his only option is to get coverage for himself and include his kids even though he already has coverage. The problem with that is that he has diabetes and is an automatic decline. He won’t be covered till 2014. And the reason they scheduled it for 2014 is because they wanted the sticker shock to hit Americans AFTER the 2012 elections. I hope you will consider all these unintended consequences when you reconsider your enthusiasm for ACA.

That Black Guy

October 4th, 2012
1:01 am

Yeah Oscar, I got it. Just took me a minute. Way after my bed time and 3 glasses of Flor De Cana will do that to ya. :lol:

Thulsa Doom

October 4th, 2012
1:02 am

Cant keep my eyes open any longer. I’m out. Good night all.

St Simons

October 4th, 2012
1:02 am

I’m voting for Obama, only because Bernie Sanders & Che Guevara

aren’t running.

Ken

October 4th, 2012
1:05 am

“The President and his rhetoric has never been challenged the way Governor Romeny challenged him tonight.”

Atlanta Mom

October 4th, 2012
1:14 am

Doom,
I have NEVER said anything about pre-existing conditions. Maybe, 5 pages ago I included that as part of Romney’s quote, but that has never been the issue. Maybe that’s your hot button, not mine.
And don’t cry to me about health insurance costs. As both my husband and I are self- employed we are now paying $24,000 a year with $3,000 deductible per person. I really can’t imagine paying any more under Obamacare.
And truly, goodnite.

getalife

October 4th, 2012
1:33 am

Here is what romney promised in this debate:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/us/politics/transcript-of-the-first-presidential-debate-in-denver.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Count how many whoppers like not cutting taxes on the wealthy and how many time he outsourced his job to States.

Appleseed

October 4th, 2012
1:38 am

Romney was much better prepaired for this debate.Obama failed,appeared he was submiting to his master.Most of what Romney said was out of porportion

Obama failed.Appeared he was submittting to his master.He was not prepared.

Appleseed

October 4th, 2012
1:41 am

proportionxxxxxxxxxxxxneed be in bed.

choong kim

October 4th, 2012
2:13 am

Mr. Romney talks like he really cares about 8% unemployed, which is over 20 millions.
I wonder How many did he help to find jobs to those who were laid off from his bain management company?
“he is an example of religious leaders who cares(words) and fools simple minded followers”
I also wonder how good mormon leaders really think of him.
Our media should get some inside info.

Jack

October 4th, 2012
5:02 am

Obama was unprepared and off balance from the beginning and he hand his hand in my pocket from the beginning.

cc

October 4th, 2012
5:38 am

Romney is on track and on schedule. Obama looked and acted like the little kid who has been sent to the principal’s office, knows he is guilty and is awaiting his punishment. The taxpaying citizens of this country have been punished for nearly four years now, and punished for sins they haven’t committed!

At long last America’s long national nightmare is nearly over.

stands for decibels - race traitor

October 4th, 2012
5:55 am

Mornin’.

I missed the first half or so (was out, got back late-ish, hadn’t been listening to the debate on the radio–wonder how it sounded?).

Looks like the general consensus is what I’d observed, that Mitt was slick and Barack was stiff.

It ought to improve Mitt’s odds, but who knows how the respective candidates’ content will be spun over the next few days.

stands for decibels - race traitor

October 4th, 2012
5:57 am

the little kid who has been sent to the principal’s office, knows he is guilty and is awaiting his punishment.

…and I see that many people are projecting their own fears, neuroses, etc., to that of a public figure, here. per usual.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 4th, 2012
5:59 am

Watching the debates, I conceded early that if you didn’t know much about Mitt Romney, he won the debate. If you did know him, you know it was just more of the same…say what your audience wants to hear. These debates favor the challenger and tonight was no exception. I’m also reminded by my history that the South won a lot of battles early in the war, but what did it get them?

Will this change my vote? No, I still dislike the man for very personal, and to my mind, very patriotic reasons,

On to the next!

JohnnyReb

October 4th, 2012
6:18 am

Obama loosing the debate; very satisfying. Watching Chris Matthews melt down afterwards; priceless.

The good news for Moonbats today; an ulimited supply of virtual crying towels.

BTW – I interrupted my work that started around 4AM to make these comments. That’s the way one gets ahead – work – versus expecting the government to hand you prosperity.

JamVet

October 4th, 2012
6:19 am

Good morning brother Normal. (Off to an early meeting in a few minutes.)

Like all neocons, Mitt is pro-war and pro-Northrup Grumman.

But by no stretch of the imagination is he pro-troops or pro-veterans.

http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6676/images/emails/ROMNEYDEBATE.jpeg

Unfit to lead.

And why he is never going to…

Fred ™

October 4th, 2012
6:30 am

dB: I missed the last few minutes but basically Mitt kicked the Presidents ass. He looked relaxed and calm. They were both joking back and forth, and swapping lies, but the upshot was that Mitt did a better job. Doesn’t mean he GOT any better as a candidate lol but he whupped that butt last night.

Peadawg

October 4th, 2012
6:51 am

“say what your audience wants to hear”

Both of them do that, seabiscuit. Take your blinders off.

I’m torn between writing in Hillary and Gurshall on the ballot. (google Gurshall to see who that is)

Herschel Walker's Revenge

October 4th, 2012
7:03 am

Jay, the best candidate did win. Your wish came true.

We need to elect Presidents who have leadership ability, who treat the government like a business (which cannot continue to run deficits and survive), and who has leadership EXPERIENCE. Obama had/has none of those traits. He was/is just a light-skinned brother who speaks well with a teleprompter.

The Free World cannot be run by through speeches on a teleprompter and by a person who has never really had an executive job in his life. Obama even won a sham-election to get into the US Senate, and then spent two of his four years in office running for President, not serving the people of Illinois.

Get this looney Socialist out of office, and let’s get someone in there who can cut our deficit and get us back on a solid financial footing, not borrowing $$ from China every day. Though it might sound good, we cannot afford to take over other parts of our medical system through Obamacare. That is not the answer. We need to make it easier and more affordable for insurance companies to operate across state lines and to make premiums in reach of all of the middle class.

Glad your wish came true, Jay.

Jay in Roswell

cc

October 4th, 2012
7:03 am

“…and I see that many people are projecting their own fears, neuroses, etc., to that of a public figure, here. per usual.”

You only wish . . .

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 4th, 2012
7:08 am

Golly I hate to agree, but Romney won that debate.

He was aggressive, President Obama was passive.

I see some very interesting campaign commercials being
made in the next few days. The Romney campaign has already walked back
the comments by Romney on covering Americans with pre-existing
conditions.

I’m not a happy camper, but the debate changed nothing for this
Obama voter.

Orange12

October 4th, 2012
7:09 am

“Jim, you may want to move on to another topic”

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:12 am

Boy, just like the Rocky movie, I thought they were going to have to stop it and cut Obama’s eye open.
What a contrast…..And finally, an unfilterd,uncensored score card for the American people to hear on this pitiful administration. Maybe they will let him put his Greek Columns on stage in the next one to comfort him. I think the independents got their answer. last night, at least according to polling this AM 75% Romney, 25% for the bumbling empty suit. It was almost hard to watch. All the guy can do is give a speech…….And last night proved it. It’s morning in America.

Turn out the lights...!!!!

October 4th, 2012
7:12 am

“…Bewildered and lost without his teleprompter, President Obama flailed all around the debate stage last night. He was stuttering, nervous and petulant. It was like he had been called in front of the principal after goofing around for four years and blowing off all his homework.

Not since Jimmy Carter faced Ronald Reagan has the U.S. presidency been so embarrassingly represented in public. Actually, that’s an insult to Jimmy Carter.

The split screen was most devastating. Mitt Romney spoke forthrightly, with carefully studied facts and details at the ready. He looked right at the president and accused him of being miles out of his depth.

Mr. Obama? His eyes were glued to his lectern, looking guilty and angry and impatient with all the vagaries of Democracy. This debate was seriously chaffing him…”

Read more: HURT: Obama the debater: Making Jimmy Carter look awesome – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/3/hurt-obama-debater-making-jimmy-carter-look-awesom/#ixzz28KNUV2Eh
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Butch Cassidy (I)

October 4th, 2012
7:15 am

Romney definitely came out on top in the debate. However, if Obama is smart, he now has an understanding of how Romney wants to play the game and could use it against him in the next 2 debates. I’m anticipating a much more lively round 2.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:16 am

Granny…..Last night was not for you …or me…..but for the 8-12% who will decide this election. 40-42% both sides would not be changed with 100 debates with a real time fact checker. I don’t have to listen to my sources to know how bad it was for the President….I’m listening to yours this morning…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 4th, 2012
7:19 am

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/10/03/162263539/romney-goes-on-offense-pays-for-it-in-first-wave-of-fact-checks

Overall, it was a debate packed with facts, a wonk’s delight. From the very first remarks, with President Obama saying 5 million jobs have been created in the private sector over the last 30 months, the debate was very number focused. So there were some things to check. And because Romney made more factual assertions, he’s getting dinged more — at least in the early hours after the debate — by the fact checkers.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:20 am

Obama will just have to LIE to do better in the next debates. He’s standing on sand with his record. The facts are the facts. It’s a horrible record. AND I don’t think I heard Bush’s name one time by Obama. I’m sure he was prepped not to use it. Romney would have been ready.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 4th, 2012
7:22 am

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/03/fact-checking-denver-presidential-debate/

Mr. President,” Romney said, “you’re entitled as the president to your own airplane and to your own house, but not to your own facts.”

Romney also would have benefited from that advice.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:23 am

Main stream in full overload this AM in meeting to clean this train wreck up. You will hear some unbelievable excuses this morning. The war rooms are in full panic

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 4th, 2012
7:24 am

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-denver-debate-declarations/

Summary
We found exaggerations and false claims flying thick and fast during the first debate between President Obama and his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 4th, 2012
7:26 am

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 4th, 2012
7:28 am

Love to see other “fact checks” anybody elses finds….

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:30 am

Granny…..We have 4 years of ” fact Check” for your man…..It’s called reality….And it sux.

Madmax

October 4th, 2012
7:32 am

Jay – Thanks for an honest assessment of the results. Romney was better prepared and didn’t let Obama paint him as the second coming of George.. Too bad some of your followers can’t accept the truth. The campaign has started and the President has to live with his record. I actually liked the way the moderator handled it last night – he lost control but did it in a non partisan way that allowed us to see how both men react in a confrontation. I agree Obama will be better prepared next time but at what cost. He may have to give up his “Mr Nice Guy” facade and show us who he really is. Should be an interesting month.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:32 am

I’m desperately looking for the first story this AM that it’s not fair because he has to campaign…..AND be President…..and he was tired…..

A TAT

October 4th, 2012
7:32 am

A pitiful performance by the President.

Were his socks mismatched or what?

His supporters boosted his ego but not his confidence.

Hillary was right…”Ready on day one?”

NO!

In over his head from day one?

YES!

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:34 am

Round 2……The lying starts…..

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:36 am

The only fact check I need from last night is that this man is over his head……and it shows. He’s a well spoken left Ideolog….not a leader.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:39 am

And do any of you think he’s going to come off any better on the foreign affairs debate? Really. Romney will lay that out for the folks also. That won’t be good for the President either. You can’t talk about killing Osama for 90 minutes…….

Tundra Dude

October 4th, 2012
7:39 am

Jay in Roswell wrote, in part:
We need to elect Presidents who have leadership ability, who treat the government like a business

Your assignment is to write an essay on why Government is not a business.

Huntsman on Romney, at Brookings Institution panel in Washington, D.C.,10/03/2012:
“I haven’t seen a good example yet of a businessperson come into government and make it run like a business,” he continued.
“We forget that the cultures are very different, and I think the presumed outcomes are different as well.”

Bill Kristol said:
“He has a thin resume for a presidential candidate,” “He’s a one-term governor in an atypical state.
He didn’t really run on much of an agenda to change things for Massachusetts.”

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:41 am

Maybe he can get that ” Obama phone” woman to do an ad for him….LOL

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:42 am

Maybe Joe will pick him up next Thursday….LOL

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:45 am

Tundra……keep hanging on it….THE problem YOU have is not that Mitt is the answer all……It’s that your guy IS THAT BAD…..Think about it. Most Americans don’t dig deep like you. They respond to THEIR life right now……And it ain’t good. Start with almost $100 to fill up their car….Maybe not all Obama’s fault………BUT, They gotta look somewhere.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:48 am

The handlers for Obama remind me of ” Baghdad Bob”….When being interviewed live telling us there was no war, no enemy here…..as bombs were going off behind him on live TV…LOL

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:52 am

Jay at home now spinning hard for you guys with his take to comfort you…..Can’t wait to read it. He’ll start with Romney is still Romney and the President and his people are in total control and the 1 or 2 point bump will go away quickly……just trying to help you Jay with an opening…..

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

October 4th, 2012
7:56 am

Maybe Biden ought to come on stage in chains….and Have a black man in a red,white and blue outfit wearing a sign that say’s “American Voter” come on stage before the debate and unlock the chains and take them of Joe and Say, You are set free to tell the truth…..how cool would that be. Really set the tone for the evening….

skydog

October 4th, 2012
8:20 am

Dang lib, you got drool on your chin.

patrick

October 4th, 2012
10:39 am

les go rodney kick his ass

patrick

October 4th, 2012
10:40 am

les go rodney

Ross Ellefson

October 5th, 2012
7:27 am

I read one of the comments before and I can tell you as a person who works in a tip industry (Dealing Cards) that Republicans as a group tip much more than Democrats. I also found that when I delivered Pizzas in 1984 people who displayed Reagan signs tipped twice as much as those who displayed Mondale. In general I believe that many Dems feel they don’t have to be nice (by tipping) to people because that is the job of the Government, whereas GOP supporters help a kid (or adult in my current job)so long as the person shows an effort. It is common to misrepresent GOP supporters and rich people as uncaring and greedy but my experience has not shown that to be accurate. Do not fall for class warfare, the vast majority of the wealthy are rich because they create wealth, not because they rip off the poor and middle class. We need someone who can create, and not just redistribute and that man won the debate round 1!