Obama vs. Romney, head to head in Denver

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9:03: And … they’re off, from the Magnus Arena in Denver. May the best candidate win.

9:15: Obama’s off-base on the claim that Romney proposes another $5 trillion in tax cuts. Romney’s right — with deductions reduced, the tax cut would not be anywhere near that large. Of course, Romney hasn’t explained WHICH deductions, and the deductions in play could not eliminate all or close to all of that $5 trillion …

9:22: Romney doing well, I think. Obama on the defensive.

9:31: Obama brings up Romney’s position in the primary that he would not accept $10 in budget cuts for $1 in revenue increases. A telling point.

9:34: Romney again rules out revenue increases absolutely. That makes progress against the deficit and the debt impossible. It makes the scale of cuts in Medicare and Medicaid and other programs, including defense, impossible to sustain. But Obama is not making that argument well.

9:48: Romney put more time into preparation, and it shows. Obama is missing opportunities.

9:51: Romney endorses the need for regulation. He is making the transition from primary to general election that he had not previously made.

9:57: Romney hints at the “death panel” argument, then lauds his own state version of ObamaCare.

10:04: Obama continues to leave opportunities on the table.

10:09: Romney beating on the “death panel” angle. All Obama needs to say is: “Governor, the plan that you implemented in Massachusetts has an identical panel that does the exact same thing.” But he does not.

10:18: Again, Romney better prepared and Obama is oddly passive, failing to strike at his opponent’s vulnerabilities. A strong night for the former governor of Massachusetts. A weak performance by the incumbent.

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With Barack Obama holding a sturdy if somewhat narrow lead of three to four points in the polls, and a broader lead in most electoral college projections, he and Republican challenger Mitt Romney meet tonight in Denver for the first of three presidential debates.

Typically, these events have the air of a Vegas prize fight. But having covered a few of those fights, I can tell you that there’s one big difference. In boxing, both camps boast endlessly beforehand about the whupping that their guy is going to put on the unlucky sap across the ring. Political handlers play just the opposite game, trying to underplay their man’s chances.

In recent days, it’s also been interesting to see Romney start to add some details to a previous vacuum of specifics, revealing that as president he would honor the two-year waiver granted to illegal immigrants brought here as children, and that he would limit more affluent taxpayers to $17,000 in deductions to at least partially offset his proposed 20 percent reduction in tax rates. I suspect that debate preparations convinced his camp that going into tonight without such details would have left him too exposed.

So stay tuned.

– Jay Bookman

850 comments Add your comment

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm

You know its bad when the folks at CNN are piling on the potus.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm

The most pitiful thing about this whole debate is that these are your choices.

TaxPayer

October 3rd, 2012
10:46 pm

Oops! I missed the debate.

Did Mitt explain how he is going to create 12 milllion jobs. Let me guess. He’s going to get rid of government regulations that are restricting Wall Street from doing what it does best–pawn off mortgage backed securities with faux AAA ratings on an unsuspecting public, etc. And then there’s the horrible regulations against polluting. Those just have to go since we all know that cheap coal and gas are much more valuable to us than our health or life.

Maybe I didn’t really miss anything at all.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Doom

300 million people

Electorate of 240 million or so

Viewership of eligible likely voters: small

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Smarmy
: revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Romney on delivery.
Obama on content.
Romney wins.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Madow making excuses.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

I wonder about the Republican bases’s view of their candidate.

Regulations are good, they are needed, they’re essential to a successful free market.

He won’t cut the education budget.

He’s not cutting top-tier income taxes. He thinks they should keep paying the lion’s share of the taxes.

He likes a lot of the provisions of Obamacare and will keep them.

After all the hoopla dies about ‘our guy won’ they’ll be asking themselves ‘are we sure this is our guy??

Krystal'sBalls

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Romney had the better performance. He was clearly on the attack (and yes a bit angry) with it at times. Obama has gotten his wake up call and will rebound the next. A lot of ground still left to cover. I guess wingnuts might find it hard to believe that Jay and others who support the President could be HONEST and not delusional about this. But then again, that’s the difference between rabid wingnuts and rational people.

Granny Godzilla

October 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm

I meant

Passive

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm

Paul, I agree. As I noted above, Romney made a sudden transition from primary to general-election candidate, and Obama was unprepared for that.

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm

Romney in a walk. Bozo handled this debate like he has handled the presidency…… a cross between the Peter Principle and Affirmative Action. Romney 320….. Bozo 218.

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm

Getalife,
“How do you win a debate with no specific plans?

That does not make sense Jay.

mitt looked at our President with a crazy look in his eyes.

Our President was creeped out.”

Yeah, We don’t want him to do something really hard, like running the country.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm

Obama will probably come back in the next debates….

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

Doom,
My point was that Romney lied about coverage previously available to 22-26 year olds.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

I think that point about 90 billion in tax giveaways to the green industry by American taxpayers was Romney throwing a body blow to Obama. Obama looked like a deer in headlights after that one.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm

Sharpton “he lied, its gonna come out, he lied, he is lying, its all lies, look at the lies”.

Madow is congratulating a good performance during the 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter.

LOL…The PMSNBC commentators may break out into a fist fight….

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

Fact checkers said mitt lied and no specifics.

President Obama told the truth.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

Atlanta mom,

I never heard him say that. I believe you may have misheard or misinterpreted him.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm

I think Romney was almost “pitch perfect”

Romney missed a few opportunities, but they were minor

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm

Wow…that was a whole lot better than I expected. It actually resembled more of an actual debate than a Q&A session. I have to think a lot of people were happy about that. And I see why Lehrer has retired. I always kind of liked him even though I “knew” he leaned left. I wish him well and good health.

RAMZAD

October 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm

I am a liberal who don’t like a fiber of Romney, but I must admit that Romney made hamburger out of Obama tonight.

The danger for the American voter is that Romney “had all the answers; a sign that the American people is getting lubed up.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm

iggy,

Yeah I was watching Al Sharpton and Rachel. No pretense of fairness there. I watched Fox and there’s no gloating there. They seemed pretty reasoned. The MSNBC folks should just give up any pretense of fairness.

td

October 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm

The President took the butt whipping because he is more dignified. LMFAO

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm

Bozo just does not like to have anyone disagree with him. He was clearly not comfortable in this format. Narcissists are like that……. continually looking down and not at his opponent with that smirk on his face. He is too used to having sycophants around him agreeing with his every word. Tonight, it showed.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm

Obama’s close was awful

Most of America did not seeit

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Taxpayer,

You missed the debate? That was pretty clear. Because you certainly missed Mitt state the need for regulations and drone on that we do need regulations.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

I haven’t heard any talk about the bias of the moderator. I wonder will that continue.

wahoo

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

This was a somewhat weird debate. The first third of it almost felt like Romney was the incumbent and Obama the challenger. When Obama talked about things for the future I kept asking myself “why haven’t you tried to do this already – you already are the President”. It was like he was running for office. Romney demonstrated knowledge and grasp of the issues despite the fact that he’s not in the office. I don’t know if it was lack of preparation (Romney was clearly prepared) or distraction, but Obama was not on his A game tonight. Talking heads have commented on this but i definitely caught during the debate that Romney directly talked to Obama but Obama talked at Lehrer. Overall, I thought Romney really helped himself tonight and it seems as though he needed to. Very enjoyable debate overall.

Shane

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Lets talk about healthcare. I pay $5000.00 yr just for me on our current plan and it’s going up and cant afford it. Going to have to cancel my healthcare as of next month. Tell me we are better off this presidential term!

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Atlanta mom

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Smarmy
: revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness

Yup, that’s Newt.

Recon 0311 2533

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm

Bill Maher says Obama lost and probably needs a teleprompter. Hate to admit that I agree with Maher, but he’s right… or left but right.

Thulsa Doom

October 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm

“Narcissists are like that……. continually looking down and not at his opponent with that smirk on his face”

kayaker,

You hit the nail on the head with that one. But you left out thin skinned.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

“My verdict would be a Romney victory. Maybe it was overconfidence on Obama’s part, but whatever the cause, he performed poorly. If overconfidence was indeed the issue, I doubt that will be the case next time. There’s certainly no cause for it.”

On style and forcefulness more so than on substance. I guess we will need to evaluate the statements of both men over the next few days to determine the latter. But I am just elated the debate was actually somewhat substantive (ironically probably due in part to Lehrer’s inability to control it). I hope the next 2 debates are similarly robust.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

After all the hoopla dies about ‘our guy won’ they’ll be asking themselves ‘are we sure this is our guy??
________________________________________________________________________

Yes, because to them “our guy” = NOT Obama.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm

I like this election much more than Bush v Kerry

God that one was absolutely awful

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

TC

I’m sure they both told a few whoppers, but polls will show that the people think Romney won this debate.

Donovan

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

Unfortunately, I can’t convince some people who would cut off a body part rather than vote for Romney, but it’s still not to late to jump on the winning team for the rest of you people.

The man looked more presidential than the president, had more informational understanding of the world, and hit a huge home run .

This is the man who will lead us out of doom and the same man you attack.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

“The President took the butt whipping because he is more dignified..” LMFAO

I heard that one too…hilarious.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

prediction for next debate…..obama listens to msnbc media and comes out attacking romney and shows that he actually isn’t the nice guy the media has been touting and loses even more voters…..eh

Mike in Stone Mtn

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

First time post here. For what’s it worth… as an independent, I thought Mitt was the “winner”. I have paid attention to the campaigns and will listen to the rest of the debates. However, if I had to pick tonight, I would definitely select “R”.

RW-(the original)

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

Maybe this computer isn’t banned so I’ll try a quick comment. Diane Sawyer is either toasted or she’s gone into Obamafail dt’s.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

Obama wasn’t entirely embarrassed. Jay said Obama left too many issues on the table.

Romney left more on the table though. 1. Did he mention the murdered ambassador? 2. Did he mention Obama’s complete inability to pass a budget during the entire course of his life? 3. Did he mention that his own Democrat congress was afraid to even vote on Obama’s budgets?

Romney could have gone for the jugular, gutted and fileted the President.

Even so, the debate was more than sufficient to kick the President’s skinny butt.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm

Even the Republicans are getting it wrong here. Romney didn’t do better because Obama performed poorly during the debate. Obama has performed poorly for the last 4 years. 

This isn’t 2008 where he can simply state what he will do if elected President. Its 2012 and he has to defend what he has done, where the country is, and how it got to where it is today. 

If Obama was fumbling and unable to answer questions effectively, it’s because he doesn’t have the answers. 

Donovan

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

P.S. Would you rather cut off a body part or take your chance and move forward with Mitt?

Krystal'sBalls

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

@kayaker

Just curious. How does it feel to know you will go to your grave and rot for eternity while your spirirt lives with the memory that this man Obama was the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, regardless of how much for 4-8 years of your miserable little life you carried around irrational anger because you deemed him not worthy of the office so you felt to reference him in constant contemptuous insult? That will be poetic justice.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm

“As I noted above, Romney made a sudden transition from primary to general-election candidate, and Obama was unprepared for that.”

Is that the same as, ‘okay, we’re in the general. What do I have to say to win this thing?”

See you all in the morning.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

Krystal’sBalls

October 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm

Romney had the better performance. He was clearly on the attack (and yes a bit angry) – Didn’t they tell us that *angry* was racist?

Obama has gotten his wake up call and will rebound the next. – I agree

A lot of ground still left to cover. I guess wingnuts might find it hard to believe that Jay and others who support the President could be HONEST and not delusional about this. – Did you read some of the comments from those on the left on this very blog? Are you saying they are delusional?

But then again, that’s the difference between rabid wingnuts and rational people. – See above.

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

This is going to get more ugly as the debates progress. One of the best ones will be Ryan and Hairless Joe. Can’t wait to hear Biden defend Bozo’s economic policies against Ryan If Ryan will keep his cool like Romney did tonight, he is a clear winner.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

msnbc’s maddow is blaming the moderator and the debate structure……they are completely stunned

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm

“Yeah I was watching Al Sharpton and Rachel. No pretense of fairness there.”

ABC’s analysis was pretty good. I couldn’t stand that on any other channel – including Fox (Shepperd is not the man for this job; should have had Baier or Wallace, but I am guessing they may be moderators in future debates). I have to say: ABC is turning out to be more objective than CBS and, of course, NBC or Fox a lot of the time.

Recon 0311 2533

October 3rd, 2012
11:05 pm

Jm, just goes to show you can never say die.

independent thinker

October 3rd, 2012
11:06 pm

Two reactions that show what a dufus Romney is:
1. There is no guaranty of “pursuit of happiness” in the Constitution as he stated
2. His whole lie about the $716 billion stolen from Medicare fell apart when he said Obama is destroying Medicare Advanatage- the program Bush started that gives profits to private insurers and free gym memberships to seniors but hits them with excessive co-pays and bills Medicare excessive charges.

Anybody know after tonight what tax deductions Romney will cut?
and where exactly are these twelve million jobs being created?Anybody have a better idea?
How come if Romneycare was so fantastic all the other states did not voluntarily adopt it before Obamacare? So now if it is left to the states what magic dust will cause all of them to model Romneycare?

Aside from that Romney did well.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:06 pm

Buckeye,

When I first heard Lehrer interrupt Romney, trying to stop him from rebutting something critical early in the debate, I was glad that Romney commanded the room and went right ahead with his point, saying essentially: “he had the first statement on this question; now you need to let me have the last…” –or something like that.

Romney was in control tonight.

It was very good to see.

As much as he won, I think he still left the debate with several rounds in the chamber. Obama? I don’t think he has much ammo left besides “tax cuts for the rich.” Thanks to the liberal media, the entire country is sick of that incessant cant.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:07 pm

“One of the best ones will be Ryan and Hairless Joe.”

I predict Ryan is going steamroll Biden – he’s a lot quicker on his feet mentally and does not make embarrassing gaffes. It will not be pretty.

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:07 pm

The President acted like a President and let mitt lie and did not want to stoop down to mitt’s level.

He had enough about half way through and called out the lies and stooped down to his level.

How many times to mitt say let the States worry about it?

Deregulating the banks got crushed by our President.

Repealing health care got crushed by our President.

The fact checkers crushed mitt’s performance.

You call that winning?

I call it the same ole mitt bs.

kayaker 71

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 pm

Krystan’s Balls, 11:02,

I hope to go to my grave knowing that the American electorate was smart enough to ditch this narcissistic buffoon who pretends to be president of this country and replace him with someone who can put this country back to work and restore American confidence in itself. You must not have watched the debate tonight.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 pm

Romney is the winner? Romney was santa claus tonight, everything for for everybody, if you believe that then…

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

Dennis Miller :Obama better hope a Kicked A$$ is covered under Obamacare.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

Recon amen

If Romney wins all three debates this decisively, he MIGHT have a chance to win

If he loses, then one of three things are true

America has tuned out

The voting base has been chopped up and locked up

Obama successfully defined Romney early, and Romney ran an incredibly ineffective ground game

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

“There is no guaranty of “pursuit of happiness” in the Constitution as he stated.”

Just a quick correction, there, it: Romney was explicitly referencing BOTH the DoI and the C when he made those remarks. Go back and review the video.

GT

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

I cannot imagine O was not prepared for the change, but he wasn’t, and I think even more O was guarding a lead, prevent defense. Usually when Romney talks that long he screws up. I also think Romney’s general personality put 40 of the 50 million Americans to sleep. I think you are going to find a huge number of the audience will not like Romney no matter how much energy. Let’s see.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:10 pm

LOL…yup…Ryan will jerk out Joes hairplugs and force feed them to him. Ryan will smash Biden. It will be a total and complete embarrasment for The Obama Whitehouse.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

“Dennis Miller :Obama better hope a Kicked A$$ is covered under Obamacare.”

Miller is a quick wit. Former raving liberal turned moderate.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

Independent thinker,

Guarantee of “pursuit of happiness”? ??

First, it’s in the Declaration of Independence, and that document is inseparable from the Constitution rhetorically. Legally, there is no guarantee of “pursuit of happiness” true, but what kind of crazy point are you trying to make here?

That drug dealers can’t pursue their happiness by selling crack to kids?

We all agree on that one, I would hope.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 pm

jm

Congratulations! While everyone on the right is measuring up the drapes, you are the voice of reason and on point analysis…

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:12 pm

Towncrier:

“…a kicked A$$…”

Best line of the week, month, maybe the year…..

Thanks TC & Dennnis.

BuckeyeInGa

October 3rd, 2012
11:12 pm

Obambarrassment
As much as he won, I think he still left the debate with several rounds in the chamber. Obama? I don’t think he has much ammo left besides “tax cuts for the rich.” Thanks to the liberal media, the entire country is sick of that incessant cant.

I disagree. I do feel Romney is more prepared that ANYONE(right, left and middle) realized. But President Obama left a lot on the table by not challenging Romney on specifics..

Orange12

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

Getalife – You are in Denial. The President did not have a clue tonight.

That Black Guy

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 pm

Dennis Miller :Obama better hope a Kicked A$$ is covered under Obamacare.
____________________________________________________________
Thass funny as hell, I don’t care who you are. :lol:

St Simons

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

yep, looked like rounds 1-4 of Foreman-Ali.

let’s see how rounds 5-8 go

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 pm

Romney came across as an idiot. Nothing he said added up. Like Obama said, it’s about math and Romeny’s didn’t add up.
No plan, nothing of substance.

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

Doom,
Here you go:
“ROMNEY: Well, actually it’s — it’s — it’s a lengthy description. But, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. Number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. That’s already offered in the private marketplace. You don’t have to have the government mandate that for that to occur.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/presidential-debate-transcript-denver-colo-oct/story?id=17390260&page=6

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

Romney was disrespectful to my president and just spewed a bunch of lies. PBS is racist and so is Jim Leher. Romney was given much more time and just plane lied. Romney is a wolf in sheeps wool. Obama needs to smack him down with all those lies. Lies lies lies. I am so tired to these racist repubs. I am glad Obama is going to cut PBS. Goodbye you bunch of racists at PBS.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

“I’m sure they both told a few whoppers, but polls will show that the people think Romney won this debate.”

Yeah…on a “touchy feely” basis. But emotion can die quickly. That’s when the reliable fact checking will come into play (and be used in the 2nd debate).

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

I love the spin, there was no clear winner, just a lot of back and forth with an over caffienated romney…

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

LMAO!!

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

getalife,

The narcotics and smoke skewed your viewing of the debate.

Proven by the fact you believe prez embarrassment won on bank deregulation.

Atlanta Mom

October 3rd, 2012
11:16 pm

Doom,
And my point was yes we did “have to have the government mandate that for that to occur.”

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

individual liberty, individual responsibility, and limited gov’t is what won tonight and what, i hope, wins in nov

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

“I love the spin, there was no clear winner, just a lot of back and forth with an over caffienated romney…”

DId you watch the debate? NBC, PMSNBC, CNN are reeling over Obamas lackluster performance.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

Over the Jay Bookman picture (which ain’t eye candy anyway), there is a picture of Katie Couric.

Blech!

I’d rather look at Bookman to be honest.

I hope they’re paying you lots for that ad, ajc management. Get her off my computer!

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 pm

keep believing that mick

getalife

October 3rd, 2012
11:18 pm

Acting like a President is not allowed in debates now.

You have to go crazy and attack with lies to “win”.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:18 pm

Mick 11:11 I’m sure that was difficult for yu to say

Duly noted

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 pm

Katie Couric, the miserable little troll…I think Im gonna vomit.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 pm

Train Wreck,

Go stand in line for your government cheese and free phone.

And be very very glad Romney didn’t pull out the big hammer.

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 pm

individual liberty, individual responsibility, and limited gov’t is what won tonight and what, i hope, wins in nov

____________

Limited government? Romney was critical of Wall Street reform because it did not have enough regulation of Wall Street. That’s not less government.

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:20 pm

david plouffe doesn’t even believe what he is saying on mbnbc right now and sharpton is saying romeny should be charged with purjury and saying obama is ‘rope-a-doping him’……amazing he has an relevancy left, iguess just in the far left wing…..classic

Old Goober

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

But President Obama left a lot on the table by not challenging Romney on specifics.

And the biggest round left in the chamber was Obama’s failure to point out that insurance companies also have medical “boards” to determine what treatments are covered and even what pharmaceuticals will be given preferential treatment by being included in Tier I, which features the lowest co-pays. Why Obama stood there and allowed Romney to beat him over the head with this “unelected board” nonsense simply baffles me. If you think that insurance companies have no say in how physicians treat ailments, you’re delusional.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

Sharpton is licking his wounds and stating Obama, like Muhammed Ali, was playing “rope a dope”.

Obambarrassment

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 pm

Acting like a President is not allowed in debates now.

You have to go crazy and attack with lies to “win”.

getalife,

You swallowed the bong water maybe?

What in the hell are you talking about?

td

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

Train Wreck

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 pm

Romney was disrespectful to my president and just spewed a bunch of lies. PBS is racist and so is Jim Leher. Romney was given much more time and just plane lied.

Ooops, MSNBC just announced Obama spoke for four more minutes then Romney.

iggy

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

david plouffe, what a spinner…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

Obama got steam rolled

Poll movement? Tbd

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 pm

“trickle down economy,
trickle down government,
whole lotta tricklin goin on…”

Even “trickle down” posts…

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

comparing apples to oranges oscar…..the collapse was due to housing derivatives and guess what wasn’t in the financial reform……wait for it…..derivatives…..regulations are needed, but the right direction is not the same as more gov’t and if you are arguing that obama will provide less gov’t than romney, no one will believ you including me right now……try again

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

“Ooops, MSNBC just announced Obama spoke for four more minutes then Romney.”

He wanted 4 more than that to make it 8 ;-)

Oscar

October 3rd, 2012
11:24 pm

Billybob

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm

___

Don’t think you were listening to what they were saying.