Do debates and analysis alter viewpoint? Research says yes
In 2004, political science researchers at Arizona State University assembled three groups of people. One group watched that year’s third presidential debate between John Kerry and George W. Bush. A second group watched the debate plus 20 minutes of analysis on NBC. The third group watched the debate and were then given 20 minutes of access to written “instant analysis” posted on CNN.com.
Then they were asked the same obvious question: Who won? The results, via a graph by Kevin Drum, in turn borrowed from John Sides:
Those who watched the NBC analysis, which in the researchers’ opinion had been more favorable to Bush, were more than twice as likely to say that Bush had won compared to those who watched the debate without exposure to outside analysis. The contrast with those who read CNN’s analysis — judged more favorable to Kerry by researchers — was even more stark. Only 19 percent in that group felt that Bush had won, although overall, those who had read CNN coverage were most likely to say that neither man had won.
Researchers also took a look at whether partisan differences played any role. Democrats, they found, were much more open to changing their minds about the candidates based on what they had seen in the debates and subsequent analysis, while Republicans showed no such willingness to alter their perspective.
“In this case, Republicans are much less willing to be swayed by political information, compared with Democrats. Why are Republicans less receptive to the debate messages? It may be Republicans had more stable and strongly held attitudes about their nominee for the simple reason that their nominee was the incumbent president. Or, it may be the case that Republicans were less receptive to media messages because they are more suspicious of the “liberal bias” of the press. Or, maybe Democrats held ambivalent feelings about Senator Kerry because they had less information about him, making their attitudes about Senator Kerry more responsive to external stimuli. Whatever the mechanism, these results suggest that people’s party affiliation clearly affected their reaction to the messages emanating from the debate and subsequent news coverage.”
Keep all that in mind tonight, when we’ll be live-blogging the debate right here. I’ll put a debate post up around 8 p.m., with the debate scheduled to begin at 9 p.m. All major networks will provide coverage, and Jim Lehrer of PBS’ NewsHour will moderate.
– Jay Bookman
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Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
“So, the bottom line from these statistical analyses is simple–more Republicans are better off than they were four years ago than Democrats”
Well according to Joe Biden yesterday neither Rs or Ds in the middle class are doing well. According to his own words the middle class was “buried” the last 4 years. His words. Not mine. Not Mitten’s. Not Ryan’s. But Biden’s words on the middle class in the last 4 years. Joe is without a doubt the gift that just keeps on giving.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
Doom — “Now I was hard on Joe Mama in the previous thread because he got nailed hard by someone else”
Lie #1.
“and was proven to be dishonest”
Lie #2.
“and at that point he just went into his tap dancing and semantics games.”
Lie #3.
“But I didn’t call him names. I just pointed out his dishonesty”
Lie #4.
“and his poor attempts to BS his way out of it.”
Lie #5.
Poor Doomy. His hiney still stings, as do his hurt feefees.
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:27 pm
But, temme, why a GAY bar…?
Just to make you think up a new punchline. I need something new for the debate party tonight.
Rightwing Troll
October 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
I prefer twinkies over zingers… I don’t like the coconut…
curious
October 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Price of gas when Obama took office: $1.81
Gas Price july 2008: $4.12 (Highest ever)
Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
“Well…don’t most Democrats think they are smart asses?”
Well now this is the party that has an ass for its mascot.
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
“Sure you were crier
….. elitist funny… much like Mitt. Its “fun” in your world to put down others. 
Do you like firing people too? Need a passport for your money? Enjoy zingers?”
Do you mean like you at (for instance) 3:41 pm, 3:56 pm and 4:07 pm? I am not above ankle biting
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
TD
You mentioned not calling JHM names.
I didn’t call you one.
I did say I was called you were on the blog to keep us “informed”, so not sure what that had to do with me.
Either way, I am good with it
barking frog
October 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
So, Mitt could turn this into
a landslide, the Prez not so
much…don’t think i agree.
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
” I need something new for the debate party tonight”
Agreed..
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 3rd, 2012
4:32 pm
The recession caused by the previous Republican has buried the middle class. The middle class are the ones who lost jobs, homes, and broken families. Not the wealthy Wall Street goons who caused it. They got bonuses.
Tealiban Party
October 3rd, 2012
4:32 pm
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Price of gas when Obama took office: $1.81
GDP the quarter before Obama took office: -8.9%
“…this sucker could go down!”
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:17 pm
“Obama walks into a gay bar with a parrot on his shoulder…”
You mean at the wedding reception?
I am invited to attend a reception honoring my brother’s wedding to his male partner of 20+ years and expect the food to be delightful and the flowers to be stunningly beautiful, as usual. They are two great guys. They went somewhere up north to get hitched. So easy on the homosexual jokes, unless they are really funny.
moonbat betty
October 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm
Wow, seems to be a lot of cursing going in here.
Perhaps Jay can turn off the censor for tonight’s debate thread?
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm
I was glad, not called
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:36 pm
curious
October 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Price of gas when Obama took office: $1.81
Gas Price july 2008: $4.12 (Highest ever)
Is it now that I say something with “con” or should I declare “drudgery spam”
Jay
October 3rd, 2012
4:36 pm
“There were actually 6 groups. Did you read all 46 pages of the document you linked? Why did you leave three of them off?
Fred, I left off three of them because they had no bearing on the results discussed in the post and were used to analyze issues not discussed here.
Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)
October 3rd, 2012
4:37 pm
crier, oh no….. you didnt cite my past posts….. and the Whole Foods cite… check back tomorrow and see if I have stopped posting.
Enjoy the checkout line.
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
4:37 pm
I think with so many cons and other Americans disgusted with their parties call themselves Independents , you have to add them to your poll data.
I know mitt is lying about helping the middle class and that will be proven in this debate losing the main focus of his campaign.
I know mitt will use the same lies attacking our President that have been fact checked false.
I think this debate will end it for mitt.
moonbat betty
October 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
I’m sure Obama was given all the questions to the debate before hand so at this very moment he is frantically trying to memorize all the answers.
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
“Poor Doomy. His hiney still stings, as do his hurt feefees.”
ROFL. I guess the “last word” is not confined to a single column anymore. This is like a moving and interminable skirmish. It has now, at this point, become truly ridiculous.
“I was right”
“No, I was right.”
“No, you weren’t.”
“Yes, I was.”
I have to hand it to you, JHM. You are a persistent dawg.
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
I just got a call from UniVision and they advise that the bombshell is coming soon. I’ll let you know when it goes BOOM.
Jay
October 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
You better back WAY the hell off on your little Penn State college degree arrogance pal. I hold my own quite well with all the PhD professors and staff from Emory I have to deal with, with my self educationed ass, I can certainly deal with a Penn State history and journalism BBA
Not on the available evidence, you can’t. You have already confessed to condemning the research methods involved without even bothering to find out what they were. It doesn’t take an advanced degree to know THAT is wrong.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
Wow, seems to be a lot of cursing going in here.
And as yet, no one has demanded that another shove his/her head in a toilet.
But you are here and that can be remedied.
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
“So easy on the homosexual jokes, unless they are really funny.”
Sarcasm is not meant primarily to be funny.
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
moonbat betty
October 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
I’m sure Obama was given all the questions to the debate before hand so at this very moment he is frantically trying to memorize all the answers.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Now I know why Oblunda had his ears stretched; to conceal his inner-ear listening device
curious
October 3rd, 2012
4:41 pm
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:36 pm
curious
October 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Price of gas when Obama took office: $1.81
Gas Price july 2008: $4.12 (Highest ever)
Is it now that I say something with “con” or should I declare “drudgery spam”
Not sure what drudgery spam is. You bring up the subject of gas prices.
Any correlation between gas prices and the overall economy?
moonbat betty
October 3rd, 2012
4:42 pm
Kamchak,
I am sorry and I learned my lesson.
Please find it in your heart to forgive me.
Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
4:42 pm
Joe Mama,
My feelings weren’t hurt. I can’t imagine why you would even think that- you must be projecting with that one. You’re the one that TC put the hammer to- not me. Not my problem that you got laid to waste and had to resort to tap dancing and semantics games to try and wiggle your way out of it.
TaxPayer
October 3rd, 2012
4:43 pm
Here’s a most excellent study from Gallup. Quite telling.
Willydoit?
October 3rd, 2012
4:43 pm
Why don’t they actually debate each other rather than have a question and answer trivia show?
St Simons
October 3rd, 2012
4:43 pm
“Republicans are much less willing to be swayed by political information”
or science information
or statistical information
or accounting information
or information containing “Irony”
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:45 pm
Any correlation between gas prices and the overall economy?
My answer is that they are third cousins related by marriage and the offspring of one-legged dwarfs.
DannyX
October 3rd, 2012
4:45 pm
“…this sucker could go down!”
Lol at the person claiming Republicans are smarter than Democrats!
Republican fools voted in W. TWICE!!!
What’s the old saying, “Voted for Bush fool on me, voted for Bush twice I’m a freaking idiot.”
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
4:45 pm
I know the 12 million added jobs mitt uses is most economists prediction for the next four years if the gop do not screw it up.
I know we are using American energy more than ever before.
I know tax cuts and no regulations cause a collapse.
I know mitt offers nothing new or good for the American people.
Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
4:45 pm
“I have to hand it to you, JHM. You are a persistent dawg.”
Hell yeah he is. That’s why I always make sure to tell him to get his last word in. When you’re dealing with someone whose whole gig is about oneupmanship you just let him get in his last 2 cents and move on.
Willydoit?
October 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
“What’s the old saying, “Voted for Bush fool on me, voted for Bush twice I’m a freaking idiot.””
I guess the same could be said of the Dims that vote for Obama…again!
curious
October 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
Ahem
Thanks. You answered my question.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
Towncrier — “I have to hand it to you, JHM. You are a persistent dawg.”
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
“Don’t even try to make heads or tails of it. Just enjoy the ride.”
I would say that is an amateurish attempt at satire, JHM. I trust you weren’t taking it literally. It is funny, but not quite the stuff of Jonathan Swift.
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
@
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
I gave the expanded explanation for the benefit of josef, as I detected his feelings may have been hurt and I wanted him to know I hold no malice towards those “light in the loafers”.
JamVet
October 3rd, 2012
4:48 pm
self educationed?
Is that similar to being hoisted with one’s own petard?
Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Is it now that I say something with “con” or should I declare “drudgery spam”
Ahem,
Naw man. I think at this point you insert a fake Thomas Jefferson quote.
DannyX
October 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
“I guess the same could be said of the Dims that vote for Obama…again!
Are you crazy???? Democrats should be commended for keeping the keys out of the hands of the drunk driver.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Doom — “My feelings weren’t hurt.”
“I can’t imagine why you would even think that- you must be projecting with that one.”
As much as you must be projecting with your claims of my “dishonesty.”
“You’re the one that TC put the hammer to- not me.”
Clearly, you can’t tell the difference between a hammer and a feather duster.
“Not my problem that you got laid to waste and had to resort to tap dancing and semantics games to try and wiggle your way out of it.”
Have you ever considered a career as a fiction writer? You display quite a bit of aptitude for it!
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm
josef,
Just got this :
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?hp&_r=0
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
What’s the old saying, “Voted for Bush fool on me, voted for Bush twice I’m a freaking idiot.”
Actually, that statement has universal flexibilty by simply substituting the proper noun. The instructions do make clear that when inserting “Obama”, be sure to include “absolute” before “freaking”.
Willydoit?
October 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
“Are you crazy???? Democrats should be commended for keeping the keys out of the hands of the drunk driver.”
Actually, its the Republican controled house that keeps the keys of the hands of Obama. Things are starting to improve now that he has his hands tied.
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
“You have already confessed to condemning the research methods involved without even bothering to find out what they were.”
It would have been nice for you to summarize them for us, Jay. I really don’t want to slog through a 46 page document to ascertain what they were now. Nor do I have time to investigate the researchers – to see if they might possibly have a prejudicial bias. Obviously, the questions in the survey need to be scrutinized as well as the legitimacy of the control group. More importantly, has the study been replicated?
GT
October 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
Condemning the evidence is the argument of choice by the right. Sometimes they say things with no evidence to back them up and other times they condemn the other man’s evidence.
JamVet
October 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
Debates are deboring…
No one will be watching them
Why don’t we do it in the road?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM02WcvlKn0
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
“Is that similar to being hoisted with one’s own petard?”
Hats off to you one that one, JV
Joe Hussein Mama
October 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
Towncrier — “I would say that is an amateurish attempt at satire, JHM. I trust you weren’t taking it literally. It is funny, but not quite the stuff of Jonathan Swift.”
My wife and I enjoy playing Spot The Troll on various IBBs; boards like Free Republic and Daily Kos are fertile ground for trollspotting, especially with a hotly contested Presidential election approaching. Contentious politicking means more posts on those sorts of boards, and trolls seem to like hiding in that sort of tall grass.
Then again, sometimes jabbering rants like the one I linked to are fun as well.
Brosephus™
October 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
Towncrier
Every now and then, I make a funny or two.
—————-
Keep
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
4:56 pm
” voted for Bush twice I’m a freaking idiot.”
They pretend w never happened in con land.
Our President is to blame for everything w screwed up in con land.
They expect a different result from the gop in con land.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
Why don’t we do it in the road?
Funny you should mention that as I will be traveling and miss the debates.
josef
October 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
regnad
The linik..
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/world/middleeast/fighting-spreads-through-aleppo-as-services-vanish.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20121002&_r=0
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Is it now that I say something with “con” or should I declare “drudgery spam”
Ahem,
Naw man. I think at this point you insert a fake Thomas Jefferson quote.
Oh, okay.
Jefferson said: “I did not have sex with that woman…”
DannyX
October 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
“Actually, its the Republican controled house that keeps the keys of the hands of Obama.”
Yes, its all the work of the great Republican controlled House. Part of Congress with the lowest approval ratings in history. Just like George W Bush!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 3rd, 2012
4:58 pm
Towncrier — “It would have been nice for you to summarize them for us, Jay. I really don’t want to slog through a 46 page document to ascertain what they were now. Nor do I have time to investigate the researchers – to see if they might possibly have a prejudicial bias.”
You had no problem insisting that I perform that degree of research in one of our earlier discussions (which I did). It would certainly be sporting of you to do a bit of research and/or leg work yourself.
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
4:58 pm
Wonder if Romney and Ryan will win the debates in the same manner that some on this blog have indicated that McCain and Palin won……..
St Simons
October 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
Drink O’Douls for Romney
Drink Red Stripe for Obama
hooray beer mon
TaxPayer
October 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
So, once a person identifies himself or herself as a Republican, how long before they become better educated and wealthier than a Democrat, or an Independent, for that matter. I imagine some folks would like to have a time horizon to reference just to make sure they are on schedule. And if for some unknown reason a Republican decides to convert to a Democrat, what are the rules regarding becoming less educated and less wealthy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
“The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm
@
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
4:56 pm
You frequently seem to be confused
Willydoit?
October 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
“Yes, its all the work of the great Republican controlled House. Part of Congress with the lowest approval ratings in history. Just like George W Bush!”
Hey, Clinton was reelected for a second term and the Republican controlled house kept him in check….who knows, maybe it could work again for your guy!
Things seem to be better for John Q Public when neither party has control of both houses and the presidency.
DannyX
October 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
“Is it now that I say something with “con” or should I declare “drudgery spam”
I hate it when libs do that.
And I hate when…
…they shout “SCOREBOARD”… http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Libs are so mean.
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
ahem,
After blogging over a decade with you cons, I am know you cons very well.
barking frog
October 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
Debate analysis research
did not help me get elected
or tell me why i was elected.
- Thomas Jefferson
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
“I gave the expanded explanation for the benefit of josef, as I detected his feelings may have been hurt and I wanted him to know I hold no malice towards those “light in the loafers”.
I understand. And good for you being sensitive. I like and respect josef. And as I have said many times, I have NO ill feeling towards homosexuals as persons. But I am against them being married and raising children. I understand full well that most gays have not “chosen” to be so but were likely “imprinted” that way in early childhood (as one theory goes). That is not their fault and they should not be blamed for it. Yet I also know as a matter of fact that some have truly been able to overcome this imprinting and lead normal heterosexual lives. But it is far from easy for most of them. We ALL have things to overcome in life (my cousin died of bulimia and I was sexually abused as a child) and homosexuality is not different in that regard. Life is simply not fair or easy for most of us.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
It’s official…………………….Obamam CAN kidnap anyone—————–
.
Last month, a judge by name of Katherine Forrest, who clearly didn’t read the memo on the judiciary’s role, actually ruled that Obummer couldn’t denounce somebody as a terrorist, throw him in the pokey, and call it a day, as the NDAA permits. She delivered a blistering opinion, in fact, in which she discussed such old-fashioned, irrelevant concepts as the Constitution, habeas corpus, legislation left deliberately vague to confuse and imprison serfs, freedom (ha!) of speech and assembly, etc.
Obummer, the guy who so disagrees with the NDAA that he claimed to have “serious reservations” when signing it and promised never to use its power, vowed to appeal crazy Kate’s decision within mere hours. I know, I know: unseemly eagerness rather than the reluctance earlier professed. Well, were I a cynic, I’d say Obummer lies as often as he breathes. At any rate, another gowned clown has now come to the Feds’ defense and declared Kate wrong: Obummer may indeed jail anyone anywhere in the world for any or no reason whatever. (Hey, he already murders whomever he chooses: What’s a little kidnapping and imprisonment after that?) And now the other two clowns from that circus—sorry, bench—have solemnly agreed with Clown #1 that yes, it’s perfectly fine for Our Rulers to incarcerate anyone, anywhere without trial or evidence, a millennium of Anglo-American jurisprudential tradition to the contrary be damned.
.
http://rt.com/usa/news/ndaa-hedges-appeal-obama-339/
.
obama supporters=traitors
Thulsa Doom
October 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
“Have you ever considered a career as a fiction writer? You display quite a bit of aptitude for it!”
Yes. In fact I wrote the series of books on the World of Gor.
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
josef
Where do you think that the Syrian rebels are getting their weapons and ammo from?
Of course they do not have tanks an jets, but they seem to be harmed fairly well.
Saudis or maybe CIA, MI6 or DGSE thru back channels?
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:06 pm
You know, I could consider voting for Oblunda if a deal could be struck to get that Washermom Shultz loon to shut up plus get Harry Reid and Pelosi to leave town.
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
Where do you think that the Syrian rebels are getting their weapons and ammo from?
Probably down at the Damascus WalMart.
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
Ahem,
Yeah, they fight back.
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
Ahem
We do agree on something. I think the Democrats made huge errors by voting Pelosi and Reid to those positions.
I might agree with them on certain political issues, however I am not impressed with their ability to lead.
That Black Guy
October 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
Sorry, OT:
That Black Guy
October 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
Ray Tardinski
October 3rd, 2012
2:51 pm
@TBG – if stating the facts is racism – then call me a racist. I forgot libs hate facts.
____________________
And now I’m a lib.
Good God man, think for yourself.
For principles
October 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
No, they are both losers, totalitarians, big government neocons, war lovers, drug war lovers, Federal Reserve/fiat money lovers, wall street lovers, Israel lovers, and nothing about the debates is going to change that so my opinion certainly isn’t going to change. Anyone but Obamney/Rombama!
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
“Probably down at the Damascus WalMart.”
Maybe it was on the Univision clip and they are getting them via the “fast and furious” program
josef
October 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
AHEM
Okay, got it…no, my feelings weren’t hurt, I was just wondering why. Reasonable reason given,,,thanks for the answer…don’t have a relative punchline yet, but will give it some thought. My own response earlier was from a joke I heard several years back…
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:11 pm
@
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
I completely agree.
JamVet
October 3rd, 2012
5:11 pm
Be careful, out there, brother Kam!
Lotsa post-TSPLOST road rage!
Abomb, do yourself a big favor and stay home on November 6th! (Maybe by then, Univision will unleash their bombshell!)
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
5:11 pm
“You had no problem insisting that I perform that degree of research in one of our earlier discussions (which I did). It would certainly be sporting of you to do a bit of research and/or leg work yourself.”
The clear difference here, JHM, is that I am not getting paid to write and my livelihood does not depend on how well I frame my arguments (in a small HTML textarea) on this blog. I make stabs at arguments (as do you and Brosephus and some others), but let’s be clear: no one is posting any dissertations here. Indeed, though a couple of my degrees should warrant otherwise, I usually make little or no effort to edit what I (as a very poor typist) what I have written before I click on the Submit button. Hence all of my typos. Posting on blogs is like playing an instrument in a closet. It is hard to “stretch your legs” in such a format.
Paul
October 3rd, 2012
5:13 pm
Towncrier
Given all the examples from nature regarding gender within species, that’s a pretty remarkable opinion, seeing as how there are many, many examples from other life forms that contract it. There are even examples of sex changes occurring in mature life forms.
So, are you open to revising your opinion based upon analysis, or are you a Republican?
DannyX
October 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
“Abomb, do yourself a big favor and stay home on November 6th! (Maybe by then, Univision will unleash their bombshell!)”
Hold on a minute Jam Vet. You mean to tell me Univision hasn’t dropped that bomb yet? What’s up with that Ahem? Are they waiting for the Obama 2007 video hysterics to die down?
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
@
josef
October 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
I have always felt that the best jokes were those created by the “butt of the joke”. I will look forward to reading your most clever punchline.
Brosephus™
October 3rd, 2012
5:15 pm
TBG
So you’re a lib now?
Paul
October 3rd, 2012
5:15 pm
make that “that CONTRADICAT” it.
Please note: I’m not saying what you postulated cannot occur. What I am saying to use that as the sole reason for homosexuality vs heterosexuality is, in my opinion, incomplete.
The ilks have it
October 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm
Towncrier: “but let’s be clear: no one is posting any dissertations here”
Ahem. Sure about that?
DannyX
October 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm
” no one is posting any dissertations here. Indeed, though a couple of my degrees should warrant otherwise,…”
LMAO!!!!
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm
“We do agree on something. I think the Democrats made huge errors by voting Pelosi and Reid to those positions.”
In politics, TBS, and on both sides of the “aisle”, it seems that the proverbial cream always rises to the top, huh?
Paul
October 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
Oops, like to begin with an analysis of the topic.
Recommendation: do not rely upon one source for analysis. Examine multiple sources that challenge your thinking.
There. Now I’ve met my goal.
josef
October 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
getalife
Hate to say “that’s a relief” on something so out of control as this situation, but it was something of a relief to see it coming in Hatay province and not one of the Kurdish areas, but given the history of Hatay, it may NOT be so good after all…and that complicates just who, pro or anti, was behind the attack on Turkey…
BOTH
The arms are coming from the Sunni controlled Gulf Emirates and Saudi Arabia…at least the shekels to pay for them…I’m not sure just what the import route is, but Turkey seems to be at least one route now that they’ve turned on the Assad regime…
getalife
October 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
Thomas,
I stopped reading at Obummer.
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
“Ahem. Sure about that?”
Quite sure. But thanks for biting my ankle
Paul
October 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
BROCEPHUS!
Did you give him a calendar?
We don’t give those out to just anyone, you know -
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:18 pm
Abomb, do yourself a big favor and stay home on November 6th!
I’m voting absentee in my district so I can go vote in person in my old district, so staying at home is not an option. You should try pronouncing UnnaBission with your tongue in your cheek, like I did.
They BOTH suck
October 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm
josef
Didn’t think about Gulf Emirates, however did think the Saudis might be providing the cash, weapons or both.
Thanks
Ahem
October 3rd, 2012
5:20 pm
Towncrier
October 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
“Ahem. Sure about that?”
Quite sure. But thanks for biting my ankle
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I plead confused.