Romney has many plans; you get to hear none of them
A tight-lipped Mitt Romney won't tell America his intentions as president. You see, it's on a need-to-know basis ... and you don't need to know
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Mitt Romney’s inability to close the gap with Barack Obama can be explained in many ways, from his stiff persona to his general disdain for working Americans to doubts about the Republican Party’s mad dash to the right. But at root, I think, it comes down to a lack of trust. Voters have no sense of who this guy is and how he intends to govern, and his continued flip flops and refusal to provide details only feeds those suspicions.
Of course, every politician tries to avoid getting nailed down on the campaign trail. But even with that as a given, Romney’s aversion to specifics has gained legendary status. For example, just yesterday Romney finally announced that if elected, he would not attempt to revoke special two-year visas granted to young immigrants brought here illegally as children.
“The people who have received the special visa that the president has put in place, which is a two-year visa, should expect that the visa would continue to be valid. I’m not going to take something that they’ve purchased,” Romney told the Denver Post. “Before those visas have expired we will have the full immigration reform plan that I’ve proposed.”
The problem, of course, is that Romney hasn’t proposed a “full immigration reform plan.” He hasn’t even proposed small pieces of such a plan. He has merely promised to produce such a plan at some later date after the election, as if “that’s all you people need to know.”
Even conservatives find his refusal to engage frustrating. As the Wall Street Journal editorial board put it, “Mr. Romney’s pre-existing political calculation seems to be that he can win the election without having to explain the economic moment or even his own policies.” It drily notes that “such vagueness carries its own political risks.”
And as conservative writer Matt Lewis notes at The Daily Caller:
“Romney is keeping his tax plan a secret for many of the same calculating reasons he is keeping his personal taxes a secret. The problem is that his tax reform plan is of much greater interest to the public than his personal taxes. What is more, it’s not just the dreaded media he should be afraid of. It feels like Romney is hiding his real plans from even his base.”
The problem is epitomized by an op-ed published under Romney’s byline in the Wall Street Journal Monday. The Romney campaign has decided to make foreign policy a major focus, and this 760-word critique of the Obama record is intended to launch that effort.
I urge you to go read it. Like the rest of the Romney campaign, it is all noise and absolutely no content. It does not criticize a single Obama decision on foreign policy, other than his decision not to meet personally with Bibi Netanyahu. It also does not suggest a single new policy that a President Romney would undertake. When you have finished reading the piece, you will have learned absolutely nothing about how Romney would handle foreign policy.
And again, that’s by design, not by accident.
Romney’s problem is obvious. Policy specifics that would pass muster with his party’s right-wing base would alarm the general-election voter, while policies that would please the general electorate would outrage his base. So Romney and his staff have decided to sidestep the problem by avoiding any discussion of specifics whatsoever.
However, it will be interesting to see how Romney handles that problem in the debate tomorrow night in Denver (we’ll be live-blogging it here, by the way.) Obama has a four-year record as president to be analyzed and attacked, and Romney will no doubt attempt to make the most of that opportunity. But in a debate format, his refusal to deal in any way with specifics or details can’t be brushed aside easily, and it’s not a problem that extensive debate preparations is likely to fix.
– Jay Bookman
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Mike
October 2nd, 2012
9:33 am
President Obama had many plans. Only we do not get to see them. We only hear about them.
Remember the old adage” don’t tell me, show me”?
Mike
October 2nd, 2012
9:34 am
Ha! numero uno!!!
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:35 am
it will be interesting to see how Romney handles that problem in the debate tomorrow night in Denver
With zingers, of course.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:36 am
We DO know:
He will honor the two-year sprcial visas;
he intends to offer an immigration reform proposal;
he intends to offer a tax reform proposal.
What else? Anything?
Simple Truths
October 2nd, 2012
9:36 am
2008: Lack of specifics + broad platitudes = good.
2012: We need specific plans and details
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
and it’s not a problem that extensive debate preparations is likely to fix.
Depends. If he uses the same technique you outlined above — asserting that something is explained in full in his plan, while simultaneously not having done any of that.. or worse, just making up stuff in the moment that contradicts something he said hours earlier — then the average low-information voter might buy it.
Bullseye
October 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
We just need some shock and awe and an order of freedom fries.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:38 am
2008: Lack of specifics + broad platitudes = good.
I’ll bet you’re the only one here who didn’t know about the specific Obama plans, including universal health care, closing Gitmo, and saving the country from financial Armaggedon.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:39 am
an order of freedom fries.
Do those come without salt? I’m on a diet.
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
9:39 am
He can’t really get too specific, the people have already been telling pollsters that it’s ok to raise taxes on the wealthy and for romney thats a non-starter which everything flows from. The republican brand is in free fall and with good reason; there’s nothing for the middle class and everything for the wealthy. Guess which class is outnumbered???
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
Well, I’m sure Romney will let us know what he’s going to do once he’s in office. I guess it’s kind of a double secret. I love suprizes, specially at Christmas time but after-election suprizes are OK too. It’s kinda exciting to have that big political present all wrapped up and ready to be opened but you know you can’t yet. Heck, maybe it’s another big Tax Cut! Or a war or hauling all the illegals out of the country. There could be anything in that box!
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
Guess which class is outnumbered???
Depends on whether the number comes with a currency sign in front of it.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:41 am
Jay – “But in a debate format, his refusal to deal in any way with specifics or details can’t be brushed aside easily”
Have we forgotten the Sarah Palin debate style? Forget the questions, just rant on incessently about how awesome you and your running mate are. Oh, and whenever possible, try to get in at least a couple of winks.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
9:42 am
If I am elected president, I promise to be… or not to be. Of that I have no question. – The Mitt, It fits like a glove except it doesn’t.
Bullseye
October 2nd, 2012
9:43 am
Romney: “I’ll make sure this sucker goes down.”
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
9:44 am
“an order of freedom fries.”
It is an enduring source of sad amusement to me that Walter Jones of North Carolina, the guy who coined that phrase out of anger with the French for not joining the invasion of Iraq later did a 180 on the war and confessed it was a major mistake.
It just says so much.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
9:45 am
Robme’s plan is to increase corporate welfare on the backs of the 47% , clear as a bell. 4 more for 44.
JOE COOL............
October 2nd, 2012
9:46 am
YES!! 20% tax cut for everyone says the Romney camp….. Soooo how do we pay for it?
Ummmmm, we’ll tell you later. Vote for us!
Martin the Calvinist
October 2nd, 2012
9:46 am
I know Obama’s plan for the next four years, raise taxes on the rich, (though his tax increases will hit middle class business owners and will also affect upper middle class individuals) cut national defense spending; (I personally have called for that as well), eliminate nuclear arms, completely shut down the public oil industry aka no oil drilling on public lands, completely shut down the coal industry, give more poor people food stamps and cell phones, borrow more money to redistribute to poor people and “pay” for the AHCPA aka Obamacare….
oh, he did say he was going to raise the corporate tax rate but give a cut to those who invested in the US, does he mean like GM, which announce over a billion dollars worth of investments in Russia, China, and Mexico? Or like GE who makes windmill turbines in China? and pays no corporate taxes at all?
larry
October 2nd, 2012
9:47 am
No specifics, but plenty of zingers, unless the zingers are the specifics of his plan.
I wouldn’t be suprised.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:48 am
I know Obama’s plan for the next four years, raise taxes on the rich, (though his tax increases will hit middle class business owners and will also affect upper middle class individuals) cut national defense spending; (I personally have called for that as well), eliminate nuclear arms, completely shut down the public oil industry aka no oil drilling on public lands, completely shut down the coal industry, give more poor people food stamps and cell phones, borrow more money to redistribute to poor people and “pay” for the AHCPA aka Obamacare….
clearly you’re just making stuff up. Sad, because reality is so much more interesting.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
9:49 am
If Romney doesn’t have specifics, expect him to wave around shiny objects and $10,000 bets.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
9:49 am
Robme is the problem not the solution. 4 more for 44
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
9:50 am
” The days of lobbyist controlling the agenda in DC are over”
“We will have an immigration policy during the early months of my administration”
“We will cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term”
“Our standing among the outside world will improve simply by my election”
I may be paraphrasing but I think you get my drift…I guess I missed the specifics of the above plans..although I really was interested in the first one…
Jay..we all know that it matters not what they say in this election (even lies like Romney offshored jobs…) it matters only that there are two types of voters..those who want Obama and those who want him gone..
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:51 am
“I know Obama’s plan for the next four years, raise taxes on the rich, (though his tax increases will hit middle class business owners and will also affect upper middle class individuals) cut national defense spending; (I personally have called for that as well), eliminate nuclear arms, completely shut down the public oil industry aka no oil drilling on public lands, completely shut down the coal industry, give more poor people food stamps and cell phones, borrow more money to redistribute to poor people and “pay” for the AHCPA aka Obamacare….”
YOU LIE!!!… (like a cheap rug…)
Ray Tardinski
October 2nd, 2012
9:51 am
I can’t believe you could seriously write this drivel. The Odumber will be the one side-stepping the issues. You know, the ones you don’t write about like Fast and Furious, blatant denial of islamic extremism and the terrorist attack/assassination, hidden truths about Obummer Care, the deficit, jobs growth, the housing collapse…I could go on and on but you get the picture. No matter how inept Odumbo cums across, I would bet your fat liberal arse will be on here touting what a grand victory he made…….. Oh, and get an updated profile pic Jay.
lovelyliz
October 2nd, 2012
9:51 am
The last man who said trust me was my sister’s then-husband, two girlfriends before he filed for divorce and I trust most politicians less than even her ex-husband.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
9:52 am
Marvin,
OK, I need to know if President Trillions actually allowed taxpayers to pay for cell phones for the needy?
Bullseye
October 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
Ray Tard….says it all, eh?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
TROLL,
We can take your comments more seriously if you offered meaningful support for your allegation…this is not the sandbox…
BlahBlahBlah
October 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
Obama’s lack of specifics on economic issues, especially entitlements, is equally baffling.
His tax plan doesn’t shore up the deficit. No one knows his bright ideas on Social Security and Medicare. Of course, in leftyland that’s Boehner’s fault.
For all of Paul Ryan’s faults, at least he put a detailed plan out there. Where’s Obama’s detailed plan? All I see are trillion dollar deficits in perpetuity.
#1 Foxy Lady
October 2nd, 2012
9:54 am
as my popularity with gentlemen proves, all he need is a catch phrase. he can’t have mines. it is trademarks.
perhaps he should pimp this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ&feature=fvwrel
it seems to fit his attitude toward at least 47% of us.
Greg
October 2nd, 2012
9:54 am
Well, you have to pass the bills before we know what is in them.
Martin the Calvinist
October 2nd, 2012
9:54 am
byte me, are you kidding….hasn’t obama called for the Buffet rule on millionaires? hasn’t he said he wants to raise taxes on those who make 200,000/250,000….isn’t it true that there are not any land leases to drill for oil on public land, isn’t it true that Obama said in Campaign stops that coal was dirty energy and it needed to go….hasn’t he said that the cuts for National defense made by the super committee should stick, what part am I saying is fiction…..hasn’t the number of people on food stamps increased for 8 consecutive months, hasn’t the state of Ohio alone received over a million new cell phones paid by that Universal tax on your phone bill….I’m not making this up. Obama believes that America is great because of what Government does? His actions has shown to me he is serious about growing the size of government and only wants those who make 200,000/250,000 to pay for it’s expansion….
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
9:54 am
Such a gentleman, that Ray Tardinski. Mild-mannered, well-informed …
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:54 am
Wow! Odumber, Obummer, and Odumbo in one post! Makes you look so intelligent and clever! I bet your Mom is REAL proud of you – but should you be playing on her computer?
mm
October 2nd, 2012
9:55 am
How’s that Smoke/Mirrors ticket working out for you cons?
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
9:55 am
Off topic,
Two more border agents shot south of Tucson today by drug smugglers. Wonder if they were using Eric Holder’s weapons?
They BOTH suck
October 2nd, 2012
9:56 am
Stevie
Program started under Reagan.
“It is a Federal program, but no tax dollars are used. Instead, telecom companies pay for it, but most of them pass along the cost to their customers, so really they don’t pay for it, paying customers pay for it. You’ll see the charges on your cell bill as the Universal Service Fee or the Universal Connectivity Fee.”
Don’t be so lazy next time. If you want to know something; look it up.
Donovan
October 2nd, 2012
9:56 am
Well now. Obama got elected on something as hollow as, Hope & Change, didn’t he?
There were promises of good days ahead and transformations for America’s way of doing business. Nothing concrete and nothing substantive, but always a silver lining for the future of Obamaland. As crazy as it sounded, it worked for a no-name Chicago Marxist community organizer.
Fast forward to 2012 and we have a left wing journalist posting how the same tactics used by a political opponent are detrimental to his success in defeating Obama. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Don’t you love the hypocrisy? Don’t you love the worry on the left that someone else is using their same gun to kill them? Do I smell fear? You bet!
Pay back is a beach.
mm
October 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
My, my. The thread is only 1 page deep and the cons have already spewed practically every talking point they’ve learned in the last 4 years.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
“Romney handles that problem in the debate tomorrow night in Denver (we’ll be live-blogging it here, by the way.)”
.
There’s no “debate” without a third or fourth Party to inject logic.
Only an auction.
OBIWAN
October 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
But we have to pass it to see what is in it..
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
I’d be willing to bet that Mitt will try to relate to people in the middle class by lowering his televised gentlemen’s wager from $10,000 to $10 while eating a bowl of grits at the same time. After all, the only thing wrong with his message before was it lacked eloquence and what says eloquence more than $10 and a bowl of grits. Of course if he slips up and puts sugar on them grits or asks for change for a hundred in order to place his ten dollar bet, that’s a game changer.
St Simons
October 2nd, 2012
9:58 am
“We’ve told you people all you need to know.”
“I didn’t ask you a question”
Use the service entrance when you leave
and don’t touch the silver.
There’s your pahhhty, cons.
while YOU shop at walmart for inferior chinese sh*, make less money
working harder (if you jerb didn’t get outsourced by a venture capitalist)
with your healthcare & pension ripped off.
and you vote for Them.
That’s masochism, cons & its hard to treat.
Don’t drive up my healthcare costs, cons – figure it out.
They BOTH suck
October 2nd, 2012
9:58 am
mm
The shrillness and vitriol will only increase. While the polls have tightened a little in the last few days, the EC projections have not changed much.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:59 am
“Thanks to the FCC-mandated, government-sponsored program, called LifeLine Assistance, the financially disadvantaged can receive a free government cell phone and up to 250 free minutes every month. An estimated 12.5 million other Americans already participate, and tens of millions more qualify to enroll. With the economy falling further and further behind, more and more Americans are finding themselves eligible for the Lifeline phone service program.
In the 90′s, the federal government set up the Lifeline phone service program via a mandate by the FCC. This program, funded by Universal Service Fund fees on telephone bills, provides qualified consumers with discounted (often free) monthly telephone service. It began as just a landline program and a few years ago made it’s debut with cell phones. It’s been commonly called the “Obama phone” but that’s an urban legend as free cell phones were added under the Bush Administration.”
Yet another outright lie repeated ad nauseum by lying liars… It started as Reagan phones, W added cell phones in 2008, so they should be called W phones… yet another case of willful attribution of blame or credit to the wrong person… shameful, sad, and pathetic…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
9:59 am
JAY,
At least he appears to be a scholar as well.
I was hoping you could compare and contrast the big picture promises by Romney in 2012 and BO in 2008….I can’t see that either don’t simply tell people what they want to hear…to be certain, BO’s lack of any remote follow thru on any of the mega-items I posted speaks volumes for both, as well as congress et al…
Can you help a brother understand the delta here?
OBIWAN
October 2nd, 2012
10:01 am
But Obama is so smart, just look at his collage transcripts, oh wait he sealed them, man that is transparency.
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
10:01 am
“isn’t it true that there are not any land leases to drill for oil on public land, isn’t it true that Obama said in Campaign stops that coal was dirty energy and it needed to go….hasn’t he said that the cuts for National defense made by the super committee should stick
That would be a no, followed by a no, followed by another no.
For example, at http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/01/10/oil-and-gas-leases-on-public-lands-up-20-percent-in-2011-feds-say/ , we find the following:
“Oil and gas lease sales on public lands grew 20 percent in 2011, a top official said today, as the Interior Department plans more sales in 2012 and mulls whether to boost the royalty rate.
In 32 lease sales, the Bureau of Land Management brought in $256 million on sales of 1,296 parcels of land, up from $213 million in 2010 on sales of 1,090 parcels, the Interior Department said. Deputy Interior Secretary David Hayes told reporters the numbers for 2011 include a lease sale in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve-Alaska in December.
BLM has scheduled 32 additional lease sales on U.S. public lands in 2012, according to the agency.
“We intend to continue to build on that success [from 2011] this year,” Hayes said at a Platts Energy Podium event.
The conservative affinity for just making stuff up continues to amaze and dismay.
bob
October 2nd, 2012
10:01 am
We know Obama’s plan to fix the economy, raise taxes on the rich. everything will fall into place once that happens, easy as abc. Obama will win, taxes will go up on most and we should see the economy jump start as soon as the tax cuts expire. I would like to know why some dems are against some of the taxes going up when we are told taxes are a form of patriotism and we need more patriots. Don’t listen to repubs, the higher the tax, the higher the revenue and many more good paying jobs that will let those on the bottom ease into the system and then become taxpayers themselves, basic economics suggest this has always worked so ignore any effort to cut any tax on anybody.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
10:01 am
“Two more border agents shot south of Tucson today by drug smugglers. Wonder if they were using Eric Holder’s weapons?”
The NRA fully supports the right of the two “drug smugglers” to have those weapons and stand their ground…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:02 am
JAY,
Did you read this? Hard to dismiss Samuelson’s observations..this is a model outline that provides the reason behind my distain for both..check it out..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-samuelson-the-truth-deficit-from-obama-and-romney/2012/09/30/262c4602-09a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_story.html
Junior Samples
October 2nd, 2012
10:03 am
I will go record for saying that after the debates the media will tout what a grand success
Obama was in all areas and that he clearly won. Just like they did with Owl Gore and Kerry.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
10:03 am
“The conservative affinity for just making stuff up continues to amaze and dismay.”
I expect politicians to make stuff up and lie, what’s dismaying is the readiness and zeal exhibited by the wingnut faithful in both lapping up those lies and perpetuating them…
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:04 am
Wonder if they were using Eric Holder’s weapons?
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people, right? So why blame the weapons?
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
10:04 am
Stevie Ray,
I read it, and I agree. Sadly, we HAVE to choose one of them.
They BOTH suck
October 2nd, 2012
10:05 am
Junior Samples
Was it coincidence or just oversight that you skipped over the 08 debates?
killerj
October 2nd, 2012
10:05 am
By the way,what,s up with some airplane workers and the white house?,have a good day Jay.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:06 am
I urge you to go read it.
aww, Dad, do I hafta?
They BOTH suck
October 2nd, 2012
10:06 am
“Wonder if they were using Eric Holder’s weapons?”
Are you wondering if they were or are you hoping and would be all giddy if they were?
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:06 am
“Romney has many plans; you get to hear none of them”
Kind of like Obamacare
jconservative
October 2nd, 2012
10:06 am
Romney has said plenty. He will create a $5 trillion tax cut which will reduce the deficit and start paying off the National Debt. The same plan we had under Reagan in 1981 – 1988 with probably the same results, tripling the National Debt.
And he will do that in negotiation with a Republican House and a Democratic Senate.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
10:07 am
Jay, someone was inquiring last night if you fulfilled a bet from 2 years ago to buy lunch for one of the regulars on this blog. Do you remember ever making any bets?
bob
October 2nd, 2012
10:07 am
Jay, Obama did say that under his plan building a new coal plant could bankrupt the company building it so you had an extra “no” in your answer.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:07 am
Actually, I’m being unfair. Obama stated some very concrete plans. Like cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term.
Oops……..
Whatever
October 2nd, 2012
10:07 am
Romney 2012 = no plans. So in 2008 Obama runs on charisma plus Hope and Change. His plans were the oceans would stop rising and the earth would stop getting hotter, etc. Too funny.
I’m not a Romney guy but it is funny to see the libs demanding something from the right that they never got from Obama.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
10:08 am
““Romney has many plans; you get to hear none of them”
Kind of like Obamacare”
You can bet on the fact that Mitten’s plans include trickling on someone, and Obamacare includes giving everybody affordable healthcare and making the moochers who get healthcare for free pay for (at least) some of it.
#1 Foxy Lady
October 2nd, 2012
10:09 am
Martin the Calvinist, you just got pantsed. Please take your shame and skulk away.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:09 am
I’d be willing to bet that Mitt will try to relate to people in the middle class by lowering his televised gentlemen’s wager from $10,000 to $10 while eating a bowl of grits at the same time.
“Cheesy grits”, you mean.
mm
October 2nd, 2012
10:10 am
“A judge is postponing Pennsylvania’s tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.”
Now that’s gonna leave a mark.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:10 am
I think Obama also said something about closing Gitmo.
Oops………………
Martin the Calvinist
October 2nd, 2012
10:10 am
Stevie Ray, anyone who owns a private cell phone or has a company provided cell phone pays a universal service charge, those funds are being used to distribute for a gov’t plan that Obama increased it’s scope to give people who get ss disability, snap benefits, TANF, or have no income at all a cell phone.
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
“I think Obama also said something about closing Gitmo”
And he signed the order to do so. Congress refused to fund it.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
“A judge is postponing Pennsylvania’s tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.”
Ohhhh noooossss…. all those dead people and fraudulent voters will be allowed to vote…
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
I think Obama also said something about closing Gitmo.
Oops………………
And he tried… and Congress said “NO”. Or do you picture Obama as a dictator like other wingnuts?
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
East Cobb, it wasn’t a bet. I never bet with readers.
I did a lunch to the person who came closest to predicting the outcome of the presidential race, but the person who won — I forget his name, but he was a pretty hard-core libertarian as I recall, and no longer posts here — didn’t seem at all interested in collecting, despite offers and attempts to schedule it.
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
ROMNEY PLAN
BLAME OBAMA
then
BLAME WEATHER
BLAME EUROPE
BLAME THE MIDDLE EAST
BLAME DEMOCRATS
i heard he purchased this plan at obama.com
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
“Obamacare includes giving everybody affordable healthcare and making the moochers who get healthcare for free pay for (at least) some of it.”
Well you’re half right. Like everything else, Obama’s plan for health care is to make the top 10% pay for everything.
barking frog
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
Mitt refuses to reveal his
plans to keep the Democrats
from enacting them.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:13 am
Obama also promised to focus like a laser on jobs.
Apparently the laser focusing devices are all found on golf courses.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
10:13 am
Donovan – “Do I smell fear? You bet!”
Yes, and it’s coming from your own party. Give it up Donovan, you still have 2016 to look forward to. I’m assuming that 4 years will be enough for you guys to present a decent candidate to run in the next election?
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
10:13 am
“Mitt refuses to reveal his
plans to keep the Democrats
from enacting them.”
This in turn keeps Mittens from having to lie and distance hisself from those plans later… brilliant!!!
Greg
October 2nd, 2012
10:13 am
Obama in 2008 – “If somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”
I believe this implies that Obama thinks coal is a dirty energy and needs to go. Granted this wasn’t said in a 2012 campaign stop, but I doubt he has changed his mind.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:14 am
I gotta give credit where credit is due though. Obama’s energy czar stated that he wanted Americans to pay European prices for gasoline, and we are certainly zeroing in on that goal.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
10:15 am
Jay
It was jt, and I thought y’all did go to Manuel’s.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:15 am
Doggone,
According to liberal math, closing a prison camp costs more than keeping it open?
LMAO
bob
October 2nd, 2012
10:16 am
Righwing troll, it is easier to call someone a liar than refute what was said but do you really think Obama does not want to raise taxes on the rich ? That was no lie and he raised taxes on the middle as well but you can deny all you want. Obamacare has a 3.8% investment income tax and 2.3% med device tax. He also want to raise the cap on the pathetic ponzi Social Security which now is 10.2% but has been as high as 12.4%. The Bush cuts expiring is a tax increase as well.
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:16 am
“Obama also promised to focus like a laser on jobs”
and he did. It was Congress that looked the other way.
weetamoe
October 2nd, 2012
10:16 am
Do we have a president yet? Is he doing his job? Does he know what that job is? Want to eliminate low information voters so that only the smart people are allowed to vote? Literacy tests! (for everyone including sitting presidents).
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:16 am
Obama also promised to repair our relationships with foreign countries.
I guess the Libyans didn’t get that hope & change memo………
Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:16 am
Obama increased it’s scope to give people who get ss disability, snap benefits, TANF, or have no income at all a cell phone.
Like I needed another reason to get a SNAP card….I could run around the grocery store with my cart full of steak, beer, and junk food while talking on my government-issued Obamaphone.
Does anyone know where I can get a cellphone case that says ” FREE Obamaphone?” I guess I’d settle for “Welfare Phone” too.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:16 am
I believe this implies that Obama thinks coal is a dirty energy and needs to go.
Seems like a reasonable conclusion… on both your part AND Obams’s. Coal IS a very dirty energy. The only thing going for it is that we have a LOT of it here. Otherwise, it’s just bad for the environment to extract and burn it.
barking frog
October 2nd, 2012
10:17 am
If Mitt never gets elected
at least he gave us
Obamacare.
Martin the Calvinist
October 2nd, 2012
10:17 am
Jay, that’s news to me…fine I guess I’ll take that one back about oil and gas leases but our President sure isn’t so specific on how he’s gonna cut the deficit…all’s he’s mentioned are tax increases and military spending cuts……and he has grown the size of gov’t by signing the health care legislation in place, do you know how many people now will qualify for medicaid under obama care?
TGT
October 2nd, 2012
10:17 am
But at root, I think, it comes down to a lack of trust. Voters have no sense of who this guy is and how he intends to govern…
You mean this guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzMas1bVidw
godless heathen
October 2nd, 2012
10:17 am
In the 90′s, the federal government set up the Lifeline phone service program via a mandate by the FCC. This program, funded by Universal Service Fund fees on telephone bills, provides qualified consumers with discounted (often free) monthly telephone service.
It’s a tax disguised as something else. So the phrase “free cell phones paid for with taxpayers’ dollars” is an accurate description.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:17 am
TROLL,
I don’t have to choose either one…the only time i was more frustrated with the choices was in 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996…..etc.
Its’ too bad all of us fall into this Jerry Springeresque, reality TV, election process without recognizing it doesn’t really matter…DC simply does not work for us…so we get crap input and crap outcomes…
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:18 am
“According to liberal math, closing a prison camp costs more than keeping it open?”
You’ll have to ask Congress that question, not me. Congress refused to fund the closing.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:18 am
Obama’s energy czar stated that he wanted Americans to pay European prices for gasoline, and we are certainly zeroing in on that goal.
Yet another lie from Shockley. I’m shocked. Ok, not really shocked. More like resigned to it.
You haven’t been to Europe. What we pay per-gallon, they pay per-liter. We aren’t approaching each other’s price at all.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
10:18 am
Ben Shockley – “Obama’s energy czar stated that he wanted Americans to pay European prices for gasoline, and we are certainly zeroing in on that goal.”
Really? Please tell us which stations are currently selling fuel at $7.00 to $10.00 a gallon?
Adina Smith
October 2nd, 2012
10:19 am
Who was on THE VIEW instead of at the UN assembly? You can bet that would never be Mitt, Obama has brought this nation to it’s knees and is a complete joke, he’s done NOTHING he promised and 4 years later blames everybody else. How dense can you be.
jcinnga
October 2nd, 2012
10:19 am
“Romney has many plans; you get to hear none of them” That’s pretty funny right there, huh. Another article could have written titled “Obama has many plans; you get to see none of them work”.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:19 am
What does it mean that “MY COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION”?
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
10:20 am
Obama plans: none
At least romney has a plan
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:20 am
I think Obama also promised the most open and transparent administration in history. I think this also included posting new legislation on hte internet for 90 days or someting before it went up for a vote.
Another oops…………………………….
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:20 am
“I guess the Libyans didn’t get that hope & change memo”
I guess you didn’t see the reports about the arrests made, and the pictures of Libyans holding signs that said “We want justice for Stevens”
weetamoe
October 2nd, 2012
10:20 am
Ben, do you think the oval office buck stop is on the golf course along with those laser focusing devices ?
Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:21 am
What does it mean that “MY COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION”?
I’m guessing it means your comment is awaiting moderation.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:21 am
“Really? Please tell us which stations are currently selling fuel at $7.00 to $10.00 a gallon?”
I didn’t say we were there, I said we were zeroing in. Gas has gone from $1.85 at Barry’s inauguration to twice that today.
Reading is fundamental…..
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:21 am
Who was on THE VIEW instead of at the UN assembly?
Don’t know. who? Obama visited the VIEW and then went over an hour later and made an outstanding speech to the UN GA. Mitt was on the VIEW, but I don’t think the UN wants to hear from him so much.
curious
October 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
This talk about how Obama hasn’t cured the financial problems is similar to:
The patient on the verge of dying, being saved by the Doctors and Medical community, then complaining about the bill.
He would have been happier if he had just died.
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
the middleclass PAYS for all TAXES
the term is called PASS-THROUGH
corporations and the top 10% PASS THROUGH all tax increases to the consumer……… which is MAJORITY MIDDLE CLASS —- except for caviar, bentley cars etc.
it gets built into the cost of goods and services
we also pay the full FICA tax
the D&R’s learned that if you skim the $ off before receiving your check people don’t FEEL the tax
they also learned that if you say the EMPLOYER is paying HALF of the SS tax……….. then people wont realize that the tax is PART OF THEIR COMPENSATION and if not charged that it would be SALARY/INCOME
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
“What does it mean that “MY COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION”?”
It means that Jay only allows name-calling from his lefty parrots.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
I didn’t say we were there, I said we were zeroing in. Gas has gone from $1.85 at Barry’s inauguration to twice that today.
Stupidity in action. Just breathless the depth of stupidity on display.
mm
October 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
Don’t you love how the cons AND the media call the expiring tax cuts “increases”.
WRONG. They are simply returning to pre-existing levels.
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
“but our President sure isn’t so specific on how he’s gonna cut the deficit…all’s he’s mentioned are tax increases and military spending cuts……”
What is your definition of “specific”?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:23 am
Seems that the allegation of obamaphones is not exactly accurate…at least according to one source..
http://factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
10:23 am
How many policy specifics donee have from Obama? None
There is hope and change though
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
10:23 am
Ben Shcockley – “Reading is fundamental…..”
Yes, you should try doing it. The reason that fuel was so chep at the time Obama took office is because the global economy was imploding. Geez Ben, isn’t your recess over with yet?
jcinnga
October 2nd, 2012
10:24 am
Dang, I hate it when the democrat in me comes out. Like the AJC, I should have spent a second proof reading before I published my post. Here we go:
“Romney has many plans; you get to hear none of them” That’s pretty funny right there, huh. Another article could have been written and titled “Obama has many plans; you get to see none of them work”, and that one would have illustrated the past 4 years.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:25 am
Robme’s plan is very complex even he can’t explain it. The FAT Lady is warming up cons…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:25 am
MM,
If I’m paying $100 in taxes currently and my taxes go up to $200 as result of letting Bush cuts expire, how is my tax bill not increasing? Semantics can’t hide the actual outcome as seen in all of our paychecks..
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
10:25 am
…his refusal to deal in any way with specifics or details can’t be brushed aside easily, and it’s not a problem that extensive debate preparations is likely to fix.
What is your response to that, Gov. Romney?
Uh, wait…, there you go again.
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
10:25 am
Actually, Shockley, Libya is a very good example of that promise being kept. The terrorist leader Moammar Gadhafi is dead and gone, and the new government of Libya — and its people — are pro-American.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pro-american-rallies-benghazi-libya-gallery-1.1158457?pmSlide=1
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/09/does-not-represent-us-moving-photos-pro-american-rallies-libya/56803/
Greg
October 2nd, 2012
10:25 am
I don’t anybody disputes that coal is a pollutant. I just don’t know what you can replace it with. Nuclear energy terrifies a lot of people but how many accidents have there been in the last 50 years.(I live in Evans relatively close to where they are building a new reactor so I am not one of those who say talk about this as an alternative and then run for the hill when they want to build a reactor in my neck of the woods) The tech isn’t there for solar yet and wind isn’t an option in many places. Natural gas is probably the best bet, but it is expensive retrofitting all of these coal powered plants.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:26 am
Tax policy center: Robme’s tax plan is mathematiclly impossible..
barking frog
October 2nd, 2012
10:26 am
Adina Smith
“How dense can you be.”
…………
Not sure I understand the
question.
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
October 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
The conservative affinity for just making stuff up continues to amaze and dismay.
That is why Jesus invented AM radio.
curious
October 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:21 am
“Gas has gone from $1.85 at Barry’s inauguration to twice that today.”
Considering demand had dropped to record low levels due to the financial melt down leading up to Pres Obama entering office, any contimuation of the Pres. Bush plan would have lowered prices even more.
If we had just been willing to let “This sucker is going down” as Pres Bush said, they oil companies would have been paying us to use gas.
Reading is fundamental
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
Barack had to time to sit on The View couch while Whoopi swooned, but couldn’t make a meeting with the prime minister of Israel.
You really can’t make stuff like that up……….
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
AQUAGIRL/BEN
Thanks but I really didn’t make any real comments, just posted 3 fact check’s that cast Obama in a less than favorable light….
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
“Plan to save America? Barrack ain’t got no G.D. stinkin’ plan. I voted for him ’cause he’s black”. Quote from Samuel L.Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview. Ross Perot recently on Barrack. “He has no clue of how to turn this economy around or reduce the Fed deficit”. “We are headed over a fiscal deficit cliff to disaster”.
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
You’re right, Kam, it was jt. But no, we never did that lunch. He indicated that he had no intention of coming inside the Perimeter if he could ever avoid doing so, which made it difficult.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
“Actually, Shockley, Libya is a very good example of that promise being kept. ”
Yeah, I could tell from all the hate-filled demonstrations that muslims realy love us now.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
I tried, Jay, I really did. I got to this line:
These developments are not, as President Obama says, mere “bumps in the road.” They are major issues that put our security at risk.
and then I said… well, you know what I said, so I won’t repeat it.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
Natural gas is probably the best bet, but it is expensive retrofitting all of these coal powered plants.
So what’s the “cost” of the pollution on the rest of us that the for-profit utility is inflicting on us by using coal? And why can’t we recover that cost?
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
October 2nd, 2012
10:29 am
Crude oil peaked at $147/bbl in July 2008 then collapsed along with everything else by year end.
It is $100ish now.
They BOTH suck
October 2nd, 2012
10:29 am
Ben thinks because Bush waved a magic wand and said a few words that oil prices just went down…………
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:29 am
Ross Perot , seriously , go back to sleep dude.
Greg
October 2nd, 2012
10:29 am
MM – so would reducing spending back down to historical levels of GDP not be budget cuts?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:29 am
JAY
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/obamas-claim-that-90-percent-of-the-current-deficit-is-due-to-bush-policies/2012/09/26/e9bfbcd0-077e-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html
Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:29 am
Thanks but I really didn’t make any real comments
You probably ran afoul of the auto-filter by using a word like Swee+w@ter. Or included too many links.
The Thin Guy
October 2nd, 2012
10:30 am
Everyone certainly knows what we will get if we are cursed with another 4 years of The Indonesian Imbecile and The Delaware Dummy: zerø economic growth, massive unemployment, corruption that would embarrass US Grant, and a totally inept, feckless, incompetent foreign policy that means the only foreign country you can visit without risking your life is the Dekalb Farmers Market. Worst of all in 2014 we will lose our healthcare system and be forced into zerØcare. Want to know what it will be like? It won’t work as well as the one they currently have in England but this is what they have
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210221/Just-GP-500-000-patients-True-scale-crisis-hours-NHS-cover-revealed.html
There is one physician for every 500,000 patients. Imagine what it will be like to walk into the waiting room and find there are 499,999 people in front of you. Then you will be confronted with rationing and Death Panels. As Long John Silver said: Them that dies will be the lucky ones.
Meanwhile the left wing lapdogs like Jay Bookman are reduced to slinging mud at Mittens and blaming George Bush and those rascally Republicans for the West Nile virus and The French and Indian War.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:30 am
When gas was going up under Bush, it was because Bush was in cahoots with all his Texas oil buddies. gas goes up under Obama, now it’s a sign of improving economy.
Liberals are so funny……………………..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:30 am
JAY
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-obamas-newest-anti-romney-ad/2012/06/20/gJQAGux6qV_blog.html
http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/10/01/fact-checker-destroys-obamas-bush-tax-cut-claim
Hopefully no need to moderate this one..
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
10:31 am
OBAMA PLAN
the CAPT. EDWARD SMITH TITANIC BLUEPRINT
FORWARD!!!
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:31 am
Robme plan : ” I have some good Zingers”. priceless …. LMAO
Sagegirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:31 am
“With zingers, of course.”
Not a good idea for Romney. It would just make him look like the spoiled bully he is.
bob
October 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
Jay, Ambassador Chris Stevens called ! He said the embassy was attacked twice before the 9/11 anniversary. He didn’t blame the videos like Obama did, he knew the attacks were coming, unlike the obo admin that would still like us to think it was the fault of the video.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
Jose you better hope Robme loses amigo.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 am
” the only foreign country you can visit without risking your life is the Dekalb Farmers Market. ”
Dude, your entire post was hysterical (and true) but that part made me spit Coke out my nose.
And it was Coke the beverage, not the kind of Coke that Barry used to put up HIS nose……
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 am
THINGUY
It about time someone aside me is most concerned (beyond the currently estimated $2.8 trillion cost to taxpayers and projected premium increases to current insured families) about this excessively significant problem…heathcare supply shortage…especially re to doctors and nurses…
Reality
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 am
“I’m gonna vote for Mr. Obama.” He’s so nice looking and such a beautiful family. And lord he makes a great speech. And the ladies on the vent adore him along with Dave Letterman. What else could anyone want a President to do?
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 am
Wake up America! Obama is a big spending ($6,000,000,000,000 added to the Fed Debt since he arrived in office just 4short years ago) socialist. Reduce the debt, reduce the size of the over reaching Fed gub’ment……. send Obama back to the private sector. He gets a “F” in Economics 101. He is just to naive to be president. Obama is Jimmy Carter reincarnated.
Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 am
the only foreign country you can visit without risking your life is the Dekalb Farmers Market.
Clearly Thin Man hasn’t been there on a Saturday afternoon. Cart-related fatalities are not pretty.
midtownguy
October 2nd, 2012
10:34 am
I don’t know of a single person voting “for” Romney, the Republican leaning voters I encounter are voting against President Obama. He hides a lot from the right of the base, like the fact that he ran the most gay-inclusive olympics in modern history actively recruiting volunteers at Gay Pride events. He doesn’t exactly trumpet that achievement to his base.
I read this yesterday, Jay, and thought of you: “Journalism is printing what someone else doesn’t want printed. Everything else is public relations.”
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
10:34 am
STEVIE-
YOU CANT RELY ON WORDS FROM THAT EVIL CONSERVATIVE MEDIA DEVIL – FOX NEWS……… UHHHH I MEAN THE WASHINGTON POST??????
The Pinocchio Test
We are not trying to make excuses for the fiscal excesses of the Bush administration — and Congress — in the last decade. But at some point, a president has to take ownership of his own actions.
Obama certainly inherited an economic mess, and that accounts for a large part of the deficit. But Obama pushed for spending increases and tax cuts that also have contributed in important ways to the nation’s fiscal deterioration. He certainly could argue that these were necessary and important steps to take, but he can’t blithely suggest that 90 percent of the current deficit “is as a consequence” of his predecessor’s policies — and not his own.
As for the citing of the discredited MarketWatch column, we have repeatedly urged the administration to rely on estimates from official government agencies, such as the White House budget office. It is astonishing to see the president repeat this faulty claim once again, as if it were an established fact.
Four Pinocchios
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:35 am
Jay, do you deny writing numerous columns back in 2006-2008 bashing Bush for $500 billion deficits, saying that he was mortgaging our children’s future, bankrupting our country, etc, etc?
And now the deficits are triple that amount….and nary a peep from Jay…
Greg
October 2nd, 2012
10:35 am
Nobody knows what the “cost” is of coal powered plants (I assume you are referring to the enviromental impact as well as the monetary costs). But last I checked, most people like cheap electricity to power their HVAC’s, TV’s, fridges, and all of the other wonders of 21st century American life.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:35 am
Morality is killing american jobs and profiting from it moral? Is evading paying taxes moral.?
detritusUSA
October 2nd, 2012
10:35 am
Mr Romney, I suggest for American foreign policy to “speak softly and carry a big stick” and back it up with an occasional “Mountain Meadows” to show we mean business. For domestic policy, nationalize the entire oil industry, top to bottom, since it is clearly a national defense issue, and would make middle eastern policy so much easier.
If you get elected and you act as I’ve outlined, I’ll vote for you next time!
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
10:36 am
Half our country will vote for a man for President that went crazy after a attack and has no plan for their future.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:36 am
BOB,
I didn’t know that embassy had been attacked twice before 911…that’s a real problem for President Spineless…has his UN crony denied this yet?
BTW, has the FBI arrived yet? Perhaps a cover-up may be in play here…no, our president would never suppress information for political gain…
Whatever
October 2nd, 2012
10:36 am
Has anyone actually fact-checked to see if the oceans have stopped rising?
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:37 am
From a letter-writer in the Sunday paper:
Vote Romney/Ryan, because we don’t need 4 more years of Republican gloom and doom!
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:37 am
Ross Perot is a genius and you? Not so much……. dead zombies for Obama sleep full time.
St Simons
October 2nd, 2012
10:38 am
bu…bu…bu…Obama isn’t working cons, outside of your echo chamber
you need a knockout
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:38 am
I didn’t know that embassy had been attacked twice before 911
That’s because he made it up.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 2nd, 2012
10:38 am
Romney should just say his plan is “hope and change” that seemed to work last time.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
10:38 am
I just figured out who Willard is.
He is none other than Colonel Flagg on the old M*A*S*H series.
He COULD tell you his plans, but then he would have to kill you.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_isUvlzkZPIQ/S_674Qfa8PI/AAAAAAAAGZ0/LamsGp5pZBY/s1600/Flagg1.jpg
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:39 am
“What does it mean that “MY COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION”?”
here: http://www.dictionary.com
Educate yourself on the meaning of the words you read
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
October 2nd, 2012
10:39 am
Conservatives have forgotten that terrorists killed 241 US Marines and Reagan did nothing but cut and run.
Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
For domestic policy, nationalize the entire oil industry, top to bottom, since it is clearly a national defense issue, and would make middle eastern policy so much easier.
How do you propose to nationalize Royal Dutch Shell? Invade the Netherlands?
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
I suspect Ben is in that group of Republicans that are not better off than they were four years ago.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
Conservatives have forgotten that terrorists killed 241 US Marines and Reagan did nothing but cut and run.
History started on Jan 20, 2009, unless it was good history.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
JOSE,
I find it hilarious that the LEFT completely dismiss and in fact detest FOX news….IMO, it all has to do with ratings….I apply the same BS factor to everything I hear from MSNBC, major networks, and FOX..but the distain directly from LEFT posters, and MSNBC pundits as well as AMerica Left pundits is simply ratings envy…
Anyone who believes 100% of one side and 0% from the other really isn’t worth the time..
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
Wednesday night millions of people will watch the debate and then watch the pundit’s tell them who won.
TiredOfIt
October 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:30 am
When gas was going up under Bush, it was because Bush was in cahoots with all his Texas oil buddies. gas goes up under Obama, now it’s a sign of improving economy.
Liberals are so funny……………………..
++
No, it is going up because of your beloved free markets.
nelson
October 2nd, 2012
10:41 am
I think my comments are being censored before they see the light of the online news, am I being paranoid? There is a giant construction going on someplace in the west where all internet “musings” go to be analyzed . Does not sound like our 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech. The issue for the day, is Mitt Romney too distant, cold, unapproacable {sounds like hes married]. Not the huggable Prez that Mr. Obama is.
Do the populace want good ole fella sitting in the oval office, or a can do man that makes the tough decisions and makes them work. You can not have it both ways.
clem
October 2nd, 2012
10:41 am
nothing will change unless the extreme right in congress is voted out….which isn’t likely to happen espeicially in the south
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
10:41 am
ITS ALL BUSH’S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
Jose you better hope Robme loses amigo.
MY HOPE IS THE BOTH LOSE
but absent of that happening
THE PLUTONOMY CONTINUES
and the minions of the left and right squabble while they play us for fools
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:42 am
DOGGONE,
Wow, you done went and made a funny!! How impressive there…I guess you learned how to be funny and make a dictionary work during your stellar education?
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
October 2nd, 2012
10:42 am
Obama killed the Enron Loophole in 2009 and gas prices have fallen.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ai3AX4q7Xhn0
Don't Tread
October 2nd, 2012
10:43 am
“Romney’s aversion to specifics has gained legendary status”
Yeah, like “Hope and Change” was so specific. 4 years later, we’re learning the details. There’s something about that “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need” detail that freedom loving self-supporting people don’t like.
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:43 am
“I don’t know of a single person voting “for” Romney”
I don’t either, and what I see (don’t see) on my drive to work is extraordinarily revealing. When McCain & Palin were running the signs popped up all along my route like some kind of invasive new flower. I have seen exactly ONE Romney/Ryan sign on the same route this year.
Road Scholar
October 2nd, 2012
10:43 am
“And it means using the full spectrum of our soft power to encourage liberty and opportunity for those who have for too long known only corruption and oppression. ”
And President Obama is not doing this??????
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:44 am
Killing American jobs? Obama’s idea of “gub’ment job creation” is moving one person from the unemployment rolls to gub’ment disability. Voila! Obama has created another job in the private sector! Disability rolls have TRIPLED under the reign of Obama. I say Obama is so good for private sector job creation let’s send him back there REAL SOON.
Sagegirl
October 2nd, 2012
10:44 am
Jay,
Romney has announced his plans for Healthcare. It’s called “Stick It” to everyone, but the Rich.
WASHINGTON, Oct 2 (Reuters) – Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has a prescription for controlling soaring costs within the $2.8 trillion U.S. healthcare system, partly by making consumers pay more of their own medical bills.
Romney’s vow to repeal and replace President Barack Obama’s healthcare overhaul has played prominently in the campaign, even as Romney has offered few details about his alternative.
But as he prepares to face Obama in their first presidential debate on Wednesday, Romney is giving a few hints. The former Massachusetts governor’s advisers say he would accelerate the use of high-deductible insurance plans that offer lower premiums but require beneficiaries to pay thousands of dollars more in out-of-pocket expenses than they would face under conventional coverage.
Romney’s overriding aim is to create a much bigger retail market in healthcare, with transparency on pricing and services, more flexible insurance pools and interstate insurance markets.
That would allow consumers to choose up front what products and services to buy and from whom, according to the Romney campaign. But consumers would cover most routine medical expenses themselves, including annual check-ups, with assistance from health savings accounts and new tax breaks intended to align the private markets for group and individual insurance that cover more than 160 million people.
“The result,” Romney wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine, “will be patients who can confidently choose the coverage that is right for them, who know and care what healthcare costs.”
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/romney-health-care-plan_n_1931711.html?1349181074&utm_hp_ref=politics
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:44 am
Yeah, like “Hope and Change” was so specific. 4 years later, we’re learning the details.
I’m sure that, like most guys who put yellow snake stickers on the back of their car, you carefully analyzed the candidate’s policy statements that were posted on his website and followed the progress of those proposals via some third-party analysis, like say the “Promises Kept/Broken” page over at Politifact, right?
Right?
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
10:44 am
“Has anyone actually fact-checked to see if the oceans have stopped rising?”
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The last time I was at the ocean, it rose twice a day. Then it fell twice a day.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:46 am
BYTEME
This is gonna hurt and I expect no retraction of your post but check it out..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/02/u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-bombed-twice-in-run-up-to-9-11-anniversary.html
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
10:46 am
Republicans should put back up their McCain/Palin signs. It might help them deal with their depression.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 2nd, 2012
10:46 am
“The last time I was at the ocean, it rose twice a day. Then it fell twice a day.”
That made me laugh, good one.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
10:47 am
There is one physician for every 500,000 patients. Imagine what it will be like to walk into the waiting room and find there are 499,999 people in front of you. Then you will be confronted with rationing and Death Panels. As Long John Silver said: Them that dies will be the lucky ones.
Lol. That’s a hoot.
Courtesy of the Daily Mail no less.
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
10:47 am
stevie
what i find hilarious is that they can’t distinguish from NEWS programs and from ENTERTAINMENT programs……………
i find it funny too that the AJC is dwindling into oblivion……….. COX’s cashcow is Autotrader NOW
but it goes to show TWAIN was right…..i paraphrase him
I USE TO NOT READ AND WATCH THE MEDIA—— I WAS UNINFORMED
I KNOW READ AND WATCH THE MEDIA——– NOW I AM MISINFORMED
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:48 am
Gas prices have fallen? You must not be in Georgia. $3.67 a gallon for regular yesterday. Cut and run? Can you say “Black Hawk Down”…… on Slick Willie’s watch.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
10:48 am
From one of Jay’s linkees, the WSJ op-ed thingie from Romney:
This means restoring our credibility with Iran. When we say an Iranian nuclear-weapons capability—and the regional instability that comes with it—is unacceptable, the ayatollahs must be made to believe us.
How will he make the ayatollahs believe this?
With a tax cut, of course.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:48 am
“I suspect Ben is in that group of Republicans that are not better off than they were four years ago.”
Wrong, but thanks for playing.
You do bring up an intersting point though. The people celebrating Obama the longest and the loudest are the ones who are the most screwed by his policies.
Guys like me, I’m in my late 40’s, I’ve had some success, I’m comfortable. Obama and you libs THINK you can screw me, but you can’t.
It’s all the young people who haven’t already started a good career and/or started accumulating wealth who will never have a chance to do so under Obama’s world view.
Enjoy!!!!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:49 am
STANDS,
If there is a source that suggests that the deficit was cut in half, it was all due to Bush’s tax cuts, lobbyist no longer control DC, immigration reform as introduced by BO becomes law (or that he proposed anything in the first place), his foreign policy resulted in outsiders liking us more on day one of his presidency, please point me in that direction.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:50 am
ok, ok, I went back and read the “Mitt Romney” (it reads more like it was written by a C-average 11th grade social studies pupil) WSJ piece.
This graf in particular moved me:
The 20th century became an American Century because we were steadfast in defense of freedom. We made the painful sacrifices necessary to defeat totalitarianism in all of its guises. To defend ourselves and our allies, we paid the price in treasure and in soldiers who never came home.
Oy. Is even one word of that made-up history even remotely true?
Oh well, putting some naif in the White House who has no clue of what even SOUNDS stupid with regard to foreign policy (see also “jawboning OPEC”) and handing him the keys–what could go wrong? Probably shouldn’t fret so much.
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:50 am
Jimmy Carter – the 1st Obama.
JKL2
October 2nd, 2012
10:50 am
- But in a debate format, his refusal to deal in any way with specifics or details can’t be brushed aside easily, and it’s not a problem that extensive debate preparations is likely to fix.
The only specific plans obama has made in his four years are tee times. If he was any good as president, we wouldn’t have to try and figure out his what his plans for the future are. Funny how so many on here consider hope & change a plan. Who can argue with specifics like that…
Vote obama: You were dumb enough to fall for it last time!
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:50 am
“No, it is going up because of your beloved free markets.”
We don’t have a free market when Barry vetoes new pipelines and defies federal court orders to open the gulf back up for drilling.
But as always, thanks for playing.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 2nd, 2012
10:51 am
Perhaps he is taking his cue from Nancy Pelosi. Remember when she said ” we have to pass it, before we can find out what is in it”! Only San Francisco voters would elected someone like her!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
10:51 am
I think Mitt’s looking at the campaign as if it were a business negotiation. Here’s why I think that.
When negotiating for something, be it raw materials, equipment, professional services, a job — particularly where the cost is not fixed and can be haggled over — the first person to show his hand usually loses because they set the benchmark to be wrestled over. If a job applicant says — for example — that they’re expecting $75K in pay, then the company can try to work him down from that figure. It doesn’t matter that the company *budgeted* $85K for that position — because the candidate just revealed that he’d take the job for less than the company was anticipating having to pay. So if the company can negotiate the applicant down to $70K, then they’ve just saved $15K per year — and the candidate is happy because he got the job. It’s a win-win, from the company’s perspective.
In this example, the company doesn’t *want* to tell the job applicant that they’ve budgeted $85K for the position — because then the candidate will WANT the $85K whether he’s worth it or not and whether he’d actually do the job for less or not. The company wants the candidate on the job for the LEAST amount they can pay, and so they won’t show their cards if they can possibly avoid it.
This is what I think Romney’s doing. I think he’s trying to win the election by applying that employer-jobseeker dynamic. However, what he doesn’t seem to get is that HE is the jobseeker — and so he’s expected to put his cards on the table. It’s not what he’s used to and it’s not a position I think he’s accustomed to being in, and so I get the distinct impression that he’s trying to get us to agree to ‘hire’ him without having to give us any specifics.
I don’t think that would work for any jobseeker, least of all someone trying to become President.
joe
October 2nd, 2012
10:52 am
Another liberal attempt to bash Mitt without giving Obozo his due. You want to know what Obama is going to do, God forbid he wins a second term?
Raise taxes on everyone…kill small businesses, due to obozocare, spend spend spend, crash the dollar, turn us into Greece, etc.
If you think you are having trouble finding a job now, just wait…unless Mitt wins. That is the only way out of this mess.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 2nd, 2012
10:52 am
What does it mean that “MY COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION”?
Well, young feller, I’m no Norman Einsteen but I run into this a couple times. The way to fix it is take out every four-letter word in your post. Don’t worry if the post don’t make no sense no more. It’ll go thru. There’s lots of posts on here that don’t make no sense.
Then go wash your mouth and your hands with soap—I recommend Lifebuoy. It has a flavor that can’t be beat. I would invite you to go with me to the Church of Holiness but they don’t put up with potty-mouth.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:52 am
BEN
Bingo…the hand-jive that “we are better off” versus “you are better off” is ridiculous…the very people who are most screwed by this failed presidency are definitely not remotely better off..
When I post this, I get several posts from LIBS suggesting that they are better off and now own 3 rental properties, have increased their pay or bought a new house at a foreclosure price….shows the intellect of what we are dealing with here..
Most of BO’s voting base who buy this are suckers…
Rafe Hollister
October 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
At least he is not lying about what he plans to do. No specifics is better than deceptive intentions. Obama had all these specifics and obviously never intended to honor any of them, like I will tackle comprehensive immigration in my first term. I will cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term. I will close Gitmo. I will have the most transparent administration ever. I will have no lobbyist in my WH. blah, blah, blah, to anything Obama promises.
Mystery or out right lies? I think America knows how President Romney is going to govern, i.e., effective, competent, fiscally sound, and strong on defense. Since Obama has demonstrated little of those characteristics, there is your choice, a lousy campaigner or a lousy President, Freedom or Free Stuff.
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
Jimmy Carter – the 1st Obama – “I’m going to save the world with YOUR money”. Can you spell S O C I A L I S T ? Also know as “The redistribution of wealth”. …. AKA stealing from those that earned it and giving it to those that vote Obama.
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
bush policies is his plan.
He will say it in the debate.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
Bookman, has Debbie Wasserman Shultz texted you the blog topic for this afternoon yet? I’d like to get a head start.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
The only specific plans obama has made in his four years are tee times.
Got that zinger at the ready, Team Romney?
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
“When gas was going up under Bush, it was because Bush was in cahoots with all his Texas oil buddies”
Now see…I did not know that! Thanks for showing me something that is new to me.
Citizen of the World
October 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
Romney knows the Republican base will vote for him without specifics — in fact the fewer specifics he bores them with the better since they like to keep it simple (minded). Just spoon feed them some anti-Obama soundbites and reassure them that the remedy for America’s challenges is a Republican in the White House, simple as that.
His problem is underestimating the rest of the electorate. They don’t a pep talk, they want a plan.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
Remember when she said ” we have to pass it, before we can find out what is in it”!
No one can remember a quote that was never made, sport.
An 8th grade english text book can inform you on the proper use of quotation marks.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
America has a choice, do they want to continue with the former Community Organizer or give a successful businessman a shot? Maybe it would be better, or not, no one really knows!
Jack
October 2nd, 2012
10:55 am
Bookman voted for Romney in the primary. It’s likely he knew some of the Obama plans.
ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!
October 2nd, 2012
10:55 am
This is gonna hurt and I expect no retraction of your post but check it out.
Doesn’t hurt. I do rectract what I wrote earlier. He made it sound worse than it was, but a couple of drive-by bombthrowers did attack the embassy… nothing at all like the coordinated attack on 9/11.
jeffrey
October 2nd, 2012
10:55 am
I read the wsj piece it was underwhelming to say the least. Anyone who read it and thought otherwise can I sell you stone mountain.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:56 am
REDNECK,
Amen…I actually went and posted the links separately and they went just fine and dandy..it does however sadden my heart that not a single LIB here has stood up for their hero, President Trillions in the face of my postings about his BS political statments about Bush’s contribution to deficit and Romney’s alledged offshoring of jobs…
BO’s mindless blue sheep followers don’t know what to do with the truth about his lies and related innuendos…
Do they JAY?
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
10:57 am
but a couple of drive-by bombthrowers did attack the embassy…
Byte, please don’t fall into the trap of conflating this ad-hoc consulate building with an “embassy.”
The real issue here is that there was a well fortified embassy where the Ambassador could’ve stayed on 9/11/12, but he chose not to. Far as I’m concerned, that’s what ought to be properly determined.
The rest is mostly right-wing bullsh-t.
JKL2
October 2nd, 2012
10:57 am
Jay- the new government of Libya — and its people — are pro-American.
Burn an embassy, get a check! What’s not to love about this obama guy?
We’ll destroy America after we destroy Israel does sound very pro-American to me…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
10:58 am
BYTEME,
Sorry about my suggestion you are not stand up…I’m cutting off my caffeine intake as we speak:-)
Seems to me that two attempted bombings, which I presume are an anomoly relative to other embassies ( I may be wrong) suggest attention to security was either lacking or non-existent..
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
What I expect to hear from Governor Romney tomorrow night
Can one play the debate drinking game with 2% milk?
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
“Perhaps he is taking his cue from Nancy Pelosi. Remember when she said ” we have to pass it, before we can find out what is in it”!”
You can’t remember what didn’t happen.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
S. Ray — “not a single LIB here has stood up for their hero, President Trillions”
Dude, what is it with y’all constantly referring to the President as our hero/messiah/whatever?
I’ve never heard a single liberal refer to the President with language like that, but it seems to be an article of faith with conservatives that every last one of us thinks that way about him.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
October 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
Can you spell S O C I A L I S T ? Also know[sic] as “The redistribution of wealth”
F E A R — M O N G E R I N G
Socialism — BOO!
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:00 am
We need a president that is loyal to the U.S.A. Country first. Obama is loyal to the socialist left wing of the Dem Party. – Not so much to our country’s future. TERM LIMITS for Congress and a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution is the only way to limit this over reaching Fed gub’ment give away of the U.S.A. and our future.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 2nd, 2012
11:00 am
Kamchak – Are you being serious or just defensive? It was on the news, many, many times about the bill in question. I would not say anything that is not truthful, good or bad, on these blogs. If the Conservative side says something stupid, its theirs as far as I am concerned. You libs apparently chose not to acknowledge boo-boos from your side. Guess that is one of our differences in thoughts.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
11:00 am
Rafe Hollister: “Mystery or out right lies? I think America knows how President Romney is going to govern, i.e., effective, competent, fiscally sound, and strong on defense”
Ha, love it. You cite a laundry list of all the ways Obama’s ‘hope and change’ was a fraud, then turn around and assert a firm belief in — Romneyhope! Lol.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:01 am
KAMCHAK
How’s it going sportster,
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/15/republican-party-texas/texas-gop-says-speaker-nancy-pelosi-said-people-wi/
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:03 am
Morality — “We need a president that is loyal to the U.S.A. Country first. Obama is loyal to the socialist left wing of the Dem Party. – Not so much to our country’s future.”
There’s only one actual Socialist in Congress, and I don’t see President Obama hugging up to him. Ever.
MAC
October 2nd, 2012
11:03 am
The plan is to replace the current incompetence with someone with proven experience, proven competence and proven results. If this were an interview for the US CEO, it would be a no-brainer for choosing Romney.
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
October 2nd, 2012
11:03 am
The two biggest socialist programs in my life were TARP and the Medicare Drug Bill – both Bush.
Obamacare makes me buy PRIVATE insurance – which is not socialism.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:03 am
JOE,
I put more stock in actions as opposed to words..the particular shepherds flock for the most part, believes everything he says regardless of merit…kinda like say……Jesus…
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:04 am
MAC — “proven experience, proven competence and proven results”
Releasing his tax returns would go an awful long way towards establishing that your claims are factual. Absent that, such statements are just unsupported claims.
midtownguy
October 2nd, 2012
11:05 am
Obama is loyal to the left wing of the Democratic party but Romney isn’t loyal to the right wing of the Republican party?
Mary Elizabeth
October 2nd, 2012
11:05 am
“But in a debate format, his refusal to deal in any way with specifics or details can’t be brushed aside easily, and it’s not a problem that extensive debate preparations is likely to fix.”
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Good analysis.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
October 2nd, 2012
11:06 am
Kamchak – Are you being serious or just defensive?
Do you know the proper use of quotation marks?
In order to use quotation marks, you must quote — word for word — what another person said, and you were woefully short of that goal.
“F” for you today in English.
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http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/15/republican-party-texas/texas-gop-says-speaker-nancy-pelosi-said-people-wi/
And another “F” for Stevie-poo for lack of reading comprehension.
Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
11:06 am
The real issue here is that there was a well fortified embassy where the Ambassador could’ve stayed on 9/11/12, but he chose not to.
Didn’t the story say the Ambassador resumed his jogging route after one of the attacks? He obviously knew the danger and chose to man up. I can respect that. It’s a foreign idea to some of our posters, who just don’t understand why he wasn’t cowering in a huge compound with hundreds of armed guards.
OBIWAN
October 2nd, 2012
11:06 am
“Actually, Shockley, Libya is a very good example of that promise being kept. The terrorist leader Moammar Gadhafi is dead and gone, and the new government of Libya — and its people — are pro-American.”
Jay I am glad you cleared that up, but can you please tell that to the ambassador, or maybe the Muslim Brotherhood?
TiredOfIt
October 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
10:48 am
It’s all the young people who haven’t already started a good career and/or started accumulating wealth who will never have a chance to do so under Obama’s world view.
++
Theit most important reason to support President Obama is the Supreme Court selections.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
JOE,
Regarding socialististic leaning of BO, to suggests that a material amount of his social and tax policy platform does not lean socialist doesn’t make much sense to me…
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
Immorality, you do make me laugh.
Even when trying to insult Barry, you screw it up.
If you had any intellectually honesty, you would have written – BHO, the second GWB.
(Hint, James Earl Carter was light years ahead of your bungling, deadly Crusader…)
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
S. Ray — “I put more stock in actions as opposed to words..”
So do I, and I don’t see liberals *treating* Obama as a hero or messiah, either. So what gives? Wishful thinking on your part?
“the particular shepherds flock for the most part, believes everything he says regardless of merit…”
Really? How do you know what people *believe?* I don’t see you asking that very often, but I do see you *asserting* what people believe. Maybe you’re mistaken.
“kinda like say……Jesus…”
You know, MANY liberal posters here have criticized Obama at one time or another. I’ve criticized him for considering a release of petroleum from the SPR, among many other things. I don’t think that criticism is indicative of a messiah mindset, but YMMV.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
11:09 am
JKL2: “Burn an embassy, get a check! What’s not to love about this obama guy?”
Are you really so ignorant that you’re not aware of how the US paid off violent insurgents at different points throughout the Bush adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan?
But something tells me we won’t hear you bringing attention to those little inconvenient details when they cast your Bushie in a bad light, only when similar transactions occur under Obama.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:09 am
…a successful businessman a shot?
Like that last incompetent boob that you rubes elected? Twice.
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
I agree S O C I A L I S T boooooooooooo! Send Obama back to the private sector. As President Obama makes a good cut throat class action suit trial lawyer. I can see him on T.V. now. ” Call me at 1- 800 – SUPER SIZE YO PAYMENT and get the money you “deserve” from the gub’ment. I can get you on disability today or your money back – let me supersize the payment you “deserve”. And I will do this for ONLY 50 % of what the gub’ment pays you for the next ten years.
Rafe Hollister
October 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
Welcome to the Occupation
I didn’t expect bloggers here at the Popular Front to get it.
Vote for a proven liar or take a chance on something better. Romney not making a laundry list of promises he plans to break is a refreshing change. He is saying I am for fiscal sanity, smaller government, and strong defense, give me a chance. Your answering, NAH, we will try the proven liar again.
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
PELOUSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
It’s ok, JKL2, I like you alright, but I had to call you on that one.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:11 am
S. Ray — “Regarding socialististic leaning of BO, to suggests that a material amount of his social and tax policy platform does not lean socialist doesn’t make much sense to me…”
Any Congressman or Senator who votes to continue funding Medicare or the VA who ALSO rails about ZOMG SOSHULIZM is, IMO, a farking hypocrite. If conservative lawmakers are going to crap so hard about socialism, then why did so many of them vote for Medicare Part D?
Frankly, I think that conservatives have a blind spot when it comes to socialism that they themselves actually supported and voted for.
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
11:11 am
“If this were an interview for the US CEO, it would be a no-brainer for choosing Romney.
Probably true. On the other hand, if this were an interview for playing third base for the Braves, it would be a no-brainer to choose Chipper Jones. But this is neither — it’s an interview to choose a president.
If you were interviewing a potential CEO, for example, it wouldn’t matter how much he cared about workers in the company. In fact, a willingness to fire workers, cut their benefits and slash their pay would be considered attributes in such an applicant.
In an applicant to be president, not so much.
southpaw
October 2nd, 2012
11:11 am
Kamchak/Doggone
OK, let’s try this instead. Instead of “we have to pass it before we can find out what’s in it,” let’s make one slight change to “we have to pass it so that YOU can find out what’s in it (emphasis mine).” In the same way, we would need to hire Romney as President so that YOU can find out what he’ll do. I realize that you’ll consider that an extremely bad idea, but it does echo the sentiments of then-Speaker Pelosi.
Listen for yourselves:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
11:13 am
PELOUSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU
YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO
BEFORE YOU CAN DENY THAT SHE SAID IT
Mary Elizabeth
October 2nd, 2012
11:14 am
About the debate tomorrow evening, I will, particularly, be interested in observing Romney’s nonverbal communicatin in how he will try to mask his lack of empathy for the 47% – either through his facial expressions or through his intonation, such as the “entitled” inflection emphasis when he spoke, without a mask, regarding the 47%.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:14 am
Apparently Kamchak is old enough to have known Winston Churchill. Certainly Churchill knew Kamchak…
“Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy.”
– Winston Churchill
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 2nd, 2012
11:15 am
Stevie Ray – Thanks man!! Kamchak will never admit he’s incorrect, whether it be 100%, 75% or 50%.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:15 am
…and strong defense…
Man, that silly sound bite never gets old.
(And the tens of thousands of commie labor union thugs at Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics et al thank you!)
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
11:16 am
“Bookman voted for Romney in the primary”
************************
In the spirit of former AI contestant Sanjaya Malakar and the vote-for-the-worst campaign, I wanted to cast a primary vote for Bachman. But had to settle for Newt. It would have been so fun to see one of those nut jobs in a general election.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:16 am
Jeez -WHEN DOES KYLE GET BACK? All this name-calling, bomb-throwing, lying! Man, don’t you folks have somewhere to go where your Rushisms are appreciated?
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:16 am
Looks like the libs got gobsmacked on the Pelosi quote
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:16 am
KAMCHAK,
I apologize if I understood you to suggest Pelosi didn’t say what she was accused of saying..appears that your real suggestion that she actually said that is correct..
JOE,
I’m not sure how to respond to your response other than to point out the voting actions, particularly of those most ill-affected by this ineffective president who continue to show support…as well as those young who follow him like a celebrity superstar…buying his hope and change BS…does suggest that many if not most are guilty of practicing faith without the support of facts…
Unlike you, most of the liberal posters here, including Jay, will defend anything BO says or does regardless of credibility…
Here’s where I stand..if you haven’t already read this..I trust we can agree on this particular thought..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-samuelson-the-truth-deficit-from-obama-and-romney/2012/09/30/262c4602-09a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_story.html?hpid=z2
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:17 am
“Kamchak will never admit he’s incorrect”
He’ll never admit he’s a socialist either.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
11:18 am
Apparently Kamchak is old enough to have known Winston Churchill. Certainly Churchill knew Kamchak…
And Hairy is young enough to date Honey boo-boo
midtownguy
October 2nd, 2012
11:18 am
The debates will change little to nothing. Those inclined to vote for Obama will claim he “won” the debate. FOX news will claim that Romney won. It won’t change enough votes to make a difference. Debates, like conventions, have become so rehearsed and polished that they are boring.
Citizen of the World
October 2nd, 2012
11:18 am
I bet one of the specifics Romney will offer tomorrow night is that under his plan Americans are going to be able to keep more of their hard-earned money. Why should the government be able to take your money and turn around and give it to someone else who didn’t work for it? You should be the one who gets to decide what to do with your money!
Oh, great! Once we all get to keep our money, we won’t have big government to worry about anymore.
But after that, I’m wondering if some of us should get together and pool our resources so we can start doing some of the things big government can’t afford to do anymore. Like maybe build some roads and bridges and stuff. Anybody want to go in on an army with me? How about we all chip in and see if we can bribe the coal plants to quit polluting the air and water so bad. And something really needs to be done about helping to feed those poor people on the other side of town who are living in a tent and starving because there aren’t any jobs or the jobs don’t pay enough money. Anyone willing to volunteer to be in charge of some of these things? Maybe we can pay you a little something.
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:18 am
Just for the record one more time. I did not vote for “W” or Obama. I am a fiscal conservative which neither of them is. Spending your way out of debt as a policy never worked for me. I am for TERM LIMITS for Congress. I am for a BALANCED BUDGET amendment to the Constitution to reign in this alarming give away of the U.S.A. by Obama and other SOCIALISTS that want to, not just redistribute the wealth, but to give away our future.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 2nd, 2012
11:20 am
Kamchak – You get an “F” for being unpleasant and rude. But I guess that is the liberal way of saying things to people who do not agree with you. I would normally say bite me, but I will not say it, because that is being crude on my part.
Ken
October 2nd, 2012
11:20 am
If Obama would have told the people what he was going to do he would have never been elected.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:21 am
midtownguy,
BINGO!
It is the bottom of the ninth, two out, nobody on and Mitt & the New Age Neocons are down by four runs.
And they think Mitt “the Mendoza Line” Romney is going to hit a five run homer tomorrow night.
Hysterical…
southpaw
October 2nd, 2012
11:21 am
midtownguy@11:18
Is your air conditioner in good shape, so that it can cool off some of the hot air coming up?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 2nd, 2012
11:21 am
Square one then. Obama had lot’s of promises and NONE came true.
To name a few:
1. Unemployment would never go over 8%. Lie
2. close Gitmo. lie
3. Reduce the deficit. WHOPPER.
4. Improve our standing in the world. Ha. Tell us about the last month in the middle east. Bush’s fault I guess
Some things he helped with
1. credit rating reduction
2. Gas prices doubled
3. Food stamps from 32 mil to 48 mil
4. Dumb Afghanistan policy. Announced we are leaving yet leave our men and women over there to be murdered…..
All good stuff. sign me up for 4 more years.
TBone
October 2nd, 2012
11:22 am
As I remember, your messiah was not forthcoming with any specificity at this time last election cycle. Now we have seen what his great plans were. Fire the dude and get someone responsible in office. Vote for the MORMON.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
11:23 am
“The debates will change little to nothing.”
*********************
There is an old baseball cliche that say you cannot win the pennant in April but you can lose it. Same for the debates. You probably cannot win the election in the debate but you can lose it.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:24 am
S. Ray — “JOE, I’m not sure how to respond to your response other than to point out the voting actions, particularly of those most ill-affected by this ineffective president who continue to show support…”
You seem to presume that supporting Obama means that an individual voter *approves* of every action and decision that Obama has made. I don’t think that’s accurate or reasonable. Speaking only for myself, I’ve criticized Obama many times and would prefer a better candidate, but I think Romney is not that better candidate. In fact, I think that Romney would perform significantly *worse* as President, perhaps on a par with President Bush.
“as well as those young who follow him like a celebrity superstar…buying his hope and change BS…”
Again you’re presuming to know the mindset of people you’ve never met and never spoken to. You’re doing exactly what I was objecting to in the first place.
“does suggest that many if not most are guilty of practicing faith without the support of facts…”
Just like you are. You don’t know what they think, but you’re apparently operating on faith that your guesses about it are completely accurate.
“Unlike you, most of the liberal posters here, including Jay, will defend anything BO says or does regardless of credibility…”
I don’t think that’s at all true. In fact, I think that’s quite wrong.
“Here’s where I stand..if you haven’t already read this..I trust we can agree on this particular thought..”
I’ve already read it, but I think you should pay special attention to the title: “The truth deficit from both campaigns.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
JAY,
Your allegations about the musings of CEO’s and their ” willingness to fire workers, cut their benefits and slash their pay would be considered attributes in such an applicant.” suggest you misunderstand, similar to your messiah, the concept of leadership…If it takes difficult decisions to change to a more profitable (or in our country’s case, sustainable) outcome and a resulting ability to be competitive and otherwise not kick the can down the road or let the liquidators in..the ability to make those difficult decisions regardless of what liberal writers think they know about leadership and success speaks volumes…
I guess when better technology or a more competitive landscape surface, your response is “let’s stay in the stone age to protect our workers….” who cares about being competitive.. the rich can afford this..”
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
I am a fiscal conservative which neither of them is.
Read, I am an economic liberal.
But that truth doesn’t sounds as good to the perpetually GOPed…
Economic liberalism is the ideological belief in organizing the economy on individualist lines, such that the greatest possible number of economic decisions are made by private individuals and not by collective institutions. It includes a spectrum of different economic policies, but it is always based on strong support for a market economy and private property in the means of production. Although economic liberalism can also be supportive of government regulation to a certain degree, it tends to oppose government intervention in the free market when it inhibits free trade and open competition.
Your made up Republican soundbites and slogans are senseless…
midtownguy
October 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
No need for air conditioning today. I have the windows open to save energy. You will probably find it shocking that I am an environmentalist.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 2nd, 2012
11:26 am
Jose – Good man. But guess what, they will say that video is doctored? They just chose to not accept their own boo-boos!
The Truth
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
Specific plans from Romney? Cons don’t care about specifics. They just care if the candidate is endorsed by the drug addict Rush Limbaugh and he has an ‘R’ next to his name. You know their not smart enough to vote for their own interests.
Get Real
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
Ahh more liberal drivel; the only true test of the supposed GAP will be 11/6…..also how hypocritical to talk about lack of substance regarding plans…wake me when Obama has one that is not crafted in fairyland …Axelrod on Sunday was hilarious with his talking points….truly sad
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
Tbone, reminds me of the best bumper sticker I’ve seen……. Fire the moron…Hire the morman
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
“No need for air conditioning today. I have the windows open to save energy. You will probably find it shocking that I am an environmentalist.”
Sounds like you’re a part-time environmentalist or you wouldn’t use your AC at all.
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
The “brains” behind Obama’s economic policy? Can you believe it? Nanny Pelosi and Hairy Weed .. ….. now that is true guidance from the blind. By the way Bernie Sanders (the admitted socialist in Congress) and Obama voted the same 97% of the time during the short time Obama was in Congress. The other 3% ? Obama was out playing golf.
midtownguy
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
I agree, East Cobb. You can hurt yourself badly if you say or do something that makes you look foolish. I am old enough to remember watching the Kennedy/Nixon debate with my father. Nixon lost the election at that debate he looked so uncomfortable and unpolished.
Rafe Hollister
October 2nd, 2012
11:28 am
Romney needs to point out that the middle class has been hurt by Obamanism. He should point out that all Barry’s talk has been comforting, while not doing squat to improve their lot in life. Their incomes have shrunk and his green energy obsession has increased energy and food prices. The chances that their children will achieve the American Dream have diminished, as economic conditions deteriorate. That Ronald Reagan had a much greater economic recession to deal with and had us in recovery in 3 years or so. That continuing for 4 years to blame GWB is not helping end this recession and is just wasted energy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
11:28 am
Instead of “we have to pass it before we can find out what’s in it,” let’s make one slight change to “we have to pass it so that YOU can find out what’s in it (emphasis mine).”
Slight change?
You’re moving the goalposts.
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
11:29 am
“but it does echo the sentiments of then-Speaker Pelosi. ”
No, it doesn’t. The reality of legislative processes is that the final version of a bill might not be known until right before the final vote..due to those pesky things known as “amendments”. So yes, a bill might have to be passed before the FINAL VERSION can be released to the public. But even then, the basic bill as proposed it known before any votes are taken.
In the case of Romney we don’t even know that. He hasn’t bothered (he’s afraid to?) tell us the basics of his “proposed” policies.
southpaw
October 2nd, 2012
11:30 am
midtownguy
Open windows sound good. Just be sure you have some fans pointed toward them, to blow out the hot air.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:30 am
JOE,
I don’t support either of these dopes nor do I support a vote for the status quo as a result…the article completely explains my position that they are all the same and it doesn’t matter…none of them have incentive to tell us the hard facts…
As for what other people think, yes I have spent lots of time with college students and the like who have no clue about the ramificantions of BO’s intentions but think he’s cool and believes everything he says…I also find the interviews with his supporters who don’t even know who is the competition or what party he represents…speak volumes.
I agree with you that a material number of folks either want BO to stay regardless of disagreement with some of his agenda as well as those who support Romney simply to get BO out of office..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:31 am
KAMCHAK(s)
Do there exists more than one of you???
Goldie
October 2nd, 2012
11:34 am
Bush’s Fault– 4 more for 44… me gusta mucho!
And the only thing that Mitt has guaranteed that he knows how to do is ship American jobs overseas and pocket million$ from the transaction — really, is that what America needs today???
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:34 am
DOGGONE,
Seriously? How can you defend a political blunder of a statement like that? Her arrogance speaks the real truth of how our elected officials think we are idiots…that bill is and will remain the biggest burden on the taxpayers for years to come and she suggests that we must wait to see the bill before a vote?
Ridiculous
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
11:35 am
“How can you defend a political blunder of a statement like that?”
Easily, since I don’t consider it a blunder. *I* understand the legislative process a lot better than YOU apparently do.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
11:35 am
Im a liberal – “All good stuff. sign me up for 4 more years.”
Looks like you will have plenty of company. http://www.electoral-vote.com/
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
It IS a anti Obama vote. He won the primaries for one fact. He seemed less toxic enough to have a chance in the general. The others all had media rich baggage. The left press has tried with Romney. The 5 page school yard bully story was a classic case…..But yet Obama got NO scrutiny and his back ground was borderline radioactive.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”
– Winston Churchill
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
I know you are an economic liberal ( aka socialist). That has gotten us $6,000,000,000,00 + added to the Fed debt in the last four years under the Obama reign. Now is just how much is that per job Obama has “created”? I didn’t vote “W” but you did vote “O” so blamer yourself for this debacle.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
Rafe, c’mon man, you neocons lamenting the plight of the middle class?????
This is one sudden epiphany!
In reality, you inexplicably LOVE that Reaganomics/voodoo economics/trickle down has been so damn effective.
i.e., most working class American families are no better off than they were back in 1980. Many are worse off. Lost decades of income, a minimum wage worth less than it was in 1968, gargantuan and growing income inequality gaps, wholesaled destruction of millions of American jobs, dozens of entire industries and middle class wages.
These are at the very core of Republicanism where the “job producers” win and the you lose.
But then again apparently NONE of our GOP bloggers, their children and grandchildren, their extended families, their neighbors, their communities, their counties or the state of Georgia are in that huge percentage!!
Must be magic…
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:37 am
“Socialists cry “Power to the people”, and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean – power over people, power to the State.”
– Margaret Thatcher
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
11:37 am
The gop attempt to cheat in Pa. has been blocked.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:37 am
“Socialism – BOO!!”
– Kamchak
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
11:38 am
KAMCHAK(s)
Do there exists more than one of you???
No.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
Apparently, in the World of Gore, “BOO!” qualifies as intellectual discussion.
JKL2
October 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
-In order to use quotation marks, you must quote — word for word — what another person said, and you were woefully short of that goal
Gold Star for Kamchak!
When you can’t win with substance, get them on spelling and punctuation…
All I need is a “47% don’t pay taxes” rant for my bingo now.
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
You voted for this loser – you got what you asked for – so quit whining and look to this bright future you helped create. We are ONLY $16 TRILLION in debt…… vote for “O” again and it will get worse…. I guarantee it!
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
It’s a foreign idea to some of our posters, who just don’t understand why he wasn’t cowering in a huge compound with hundreds of armed guards.
maybe it’s a foreign concept, but I suspect most of them are just lying a-holes who think they won’t be called out. who knows; who cares, really?
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
“Romney needs to point out that the middle class has been hurt by Obamanism.”
Cons still clinging to the “if only everybody knew what we in the bubble knew” meme.
Sad, really.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
Ben Shockley – ““The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”
– Winston Churchill
“You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing. After they have tried everything else.”
-Winston Churchill
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
The gop attempt to cheat in Pa. has been blocked.
And yesterday CA banned the quack science of praying-away-the-gay (on minors, anyway).
shaping up to be a good week.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
I was only a glimmer in my daddy’s eye during the Nixon/Kennedy debate, but it is my understanding Nixon refused to have make-up applied which contributed significantly to his appearance.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:42 am
DOGGONE,
You are right…I was thinking President Spineless made good on his promise to allow bills to enjoy sunlight prior to passing…another BS promise..Its too bad you are correct and confirmed another of BO”s BS promises gone unfulfilled…my bad and I should have appreciated the arrogance of that particular inside trader…
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/234/allow-five-days-of-public-comment-before-signing-b/
Morality?
October 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
This hallow’s eve I think I will go as “Obama”!
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
…but you did vote “O”…
Are you REALLY that stupid?
(Yes.)
On the following scale (old school) I’ve given Barry a score of 77.
A 100 – 92
B 91 – 84
C 83 – 76
D 75 – 68
F 67 – 0
I give the abysmal Mitt a score of 45. (And that is probably too generous)
I give you Bush/Mitt voters a 28.
Better luck in 2016…
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
“The gop attempt to cheat in Pa. has been blocked.”
…thus clearing the way for the Dem attempts to cheat…..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
STANDS,
Do the DEMs want people to be allowed to vote without proving age, citizenship etcetera?
Citizen of the World
October 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
Rafe @ 11:28, I’m sure Romney will point out those things, just like he’s been doing for months now. But the problem is, merely pointing those things out is not enough to fix them. What is his plan for fixing them? How is he going to help?
Oh, I forgot. He has said that he won’t even have to do anything, just get elected, and people will be so relieved and happy, the whole thing will just right itself!
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
“refused to have make-up applied which contributed significantly to his appearance”
Almost a Yogi-ism! LOL
I’m a bit older, RINO, but didn’t see the debate. I also remember “wiping sweat from brow with handkerchief”.
I wonder if Romney will go with the orange this time?
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
“I was thinking President Spineless made good on his promise to allow bills to enjoy sunlight prior to passing…another BS promise”
Of course it was, and *I* knew it at the time. The only bills the President could even hope to accomplish that with would be bills he, himself, wrote or had written. The President has no control over what Congress does with their bills. Why didn’t you know that? As I said, *I* understand the legislative process a lot better than you apparently to.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
This hallow’s eve I think I’ll go as Karl Marx and watch you pee your pants.
Doggone/GA
October 2nd, 2012
11:45 am
“Do the DEMs want people to be allowed to vote without proving age, citizenship etcetera?”
No. This has been another simple answer to a dumb question.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
11:45 am
Do the DEMs want people to be allowed to vote without proving age, citizenship etcetera?
Am I Spokesman for Democratic Self-Identifiers, now?
Because it was a major PitA being Spokesman for Black America last month, I tells ya.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:46 am
“Do the DEMs want people to be allowed to vote without proving age, citizenship etcetera?”
They want illegal aliens to vote Democrat. Let’s just call it what it is in plain English.
Oh wait, that’s discriminatory. They don’t speak english.
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Bring em home:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YiFh9DJJpPM
Rockerbabe
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Romney is an empty suit, so one can fill it with anything they like.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
S. Ray — “similar to your messiah”
There you go again.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
“This hallow’s eve I think I’ll go as Karl Marx and watch you pee your pants.”
Or maybe I’ll suggest you take responsibility for your own existence and watch you pee yours…..
curious
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Take an honest look at all previous adminstrations.
plenty of screw ups to go around.
Kennedy- Bay of Pigs,Vietnam
Johnson- Vienam, welfare, civil rights Pueblo Liberty
Nixon- Vietnam, Kent State,watergate,1/2 cabinet/advisors sent to jail.
Ford- Mayaquez,Poland, stumbling
Carter- iran hostage, panama canal, israel-Egypt peace, economy, inflation
Reagan-Debt, tax increases,Beruit,Contra, Arms to Iran, Arming Saddam
Bush- economy, economy. Didn’t kill saddam
Clinton-Embassy bombings,Monica, etc.
Bush- economy,Iraq, Afghanistan,4$ gallon gas, unfunded war, etc, harriet Myers, Alberto Gonzales,Katrina
Obama- ACA,Gitmo,economy, deficit, etc.
Where’s the hero in all this?
Don't Tread
October 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
“You know their not smart enough to vote for their own interests.”
If you’re going to call somebody stupid, at least choose the right word for the sentence.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
I didn’t vote “W” but you did vote “O” so blamer yourself for this debacle.
If this was directed at me then no.
For the umpteenth +1 time (and especially for those in the cheap seats):
I SUPPORTED JUAN McSAME AND SNOWBILLY SNOOKI IN THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:50 am
Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted (except for “inside-the- bubble” memes)? Folks repeating a Rushism, and congratulating themselves for being clever?
I’m curious – do any of you truly think Romney will be elected to the Presidency of the United States in 2012? A simple yes-or-no will do…
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
11:50 am
Stands,
It is still the law but not this election. The judge ruled there was not enough time for them to get id’s this time..
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
11:50 am
But yet Obama got NO scrutiny and his back ground was borderline radioactive.
Only to nutcase talk radio hosts and their mindless followers. To the REST of the population it was just a background.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:50 am
STANDS,
So where in the process do the voters prove who they are?
Doggone,
I’m ok with you having superior knowledge of the legislative process…he quote was a serious blunder…particularly in the eyes of the 65% or so of us that didn’t want that bill..does that fact have any traction with you? I mean are you ok with the government passing legislation that is against public opinion? Pelose et al took advantage of and insulted us all in one felt swoop….
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
11:51 am
S. Ray — “I agree with you that a material number of folks either want BO to stay regardless of disagreement with some of his agenda as well as those who support Romney simply to get BO out of office.”
Fair enough. We can agree on that point.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:51 am
“Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted ”
Kamchak blogs with Kyle?
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
11:52 am
It is still the law but not this election.
I know, I know. Baby steps.
Heretofore GOPers have been incapable of being shamed by their efforts to prevent citizens from voting. We need to work on that.
Latiqwenicia
October 2nd, 2012
11:52 am
“Voters have no sense of who this guy is and how he intends to govern,…”
That nicely describes the incumbent. After four years hardly anyone has figured out who the community organizer really is.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
“Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted ”
getalive blogs ove at Kyle’s place???
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
So where in the process do the voters prove who they are?
I don’t know PA’s voting laws well enough to know what kind of ID requirements they’d had before this measure; maybe someone else does.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
“Obama- ACA,Gitmo,economy, deficit, etc.”
ACA – big win, not a screw-up (except inside-the-bubble)
Gitmo – kept hi promise to try to close it – blocked by Republicans
Also, you are aware that all spending bills originate in the House, right?
I’m not saying Obama’s perfect, but we’re comparing him to Romney, so he looks much better in contrast…
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:50 am
Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted (except for “inside-the- bubble” memes)? Folks repeating a Rushism, and congratulating themselves for being clever?
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Yup. Especially Dusty.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
“Heretofore GOPers have been incapable of being shamed by their efforts to prevent citizens from voting. ”
LMAO. Brought to you by the party of illegal alien voter registration and walking around money…
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
““Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted ”
Kamchak blogs with Kyle?”
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See what I mean?
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
“Heretofore GOPers have been incapable of being shamed by their efforts to prevent citizens from voting. ”
Brought to you by the party that tried to disenfranchise absentee voters in Florida in 2000…..
JKL2
October 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
welcome- Are you really so ignorant that you’re not aware of how the US paid off violent insurgents at different points throughout the Bush adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Little difference between a couple thousand and a handful of viagra vs. obama and $500 million.
They love a weak America which is why obama is getting endorsements from around the world.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
Curious,
You left out Dan Quayle…is it true that he is in some fashion related to Joe Biden?
The similarities are striking:-)
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
“Heretofore GOPers have been incapable of being shamed by their efforts to prevent citizens from voting. ”
Brought to you by the party that refused to prosecute New Black Panthers for voter intimidation…..
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
Romney’s problem is obvious. Policy specifics that would pass muster with his party’s right-wing base would alarm the general-election voter, while policies that would please the general electorate would outrage his base. So Romney and his staff have decided to sidestep the problem by avoiding any discussion of specifics whatsoever.
This perfectly illustrates what the core problem is in the republican party. The hateful rightwing worldview disgusts mainstream Americans. If they don’t very quickly tell the rightwingers to get with mainstream 21st century America or get the hell out they won’t be around much longer. Mainstream America will never let white nationalists, evangelicals, and assorted other neanderthals control their everyday lives using the republican party as their vehicle.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
Regnad Kcin @ 11:54: This troll stays and drops inane comments all day, unfortunately he doesn’t run away. Folks STILL haven’t figured out that the way to deal with a troll is to ignore him so he gets a lot of attention with his crapbombs.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
11:57 am
Ford- Mayaquez,Poland, stumbling
I think you left out “allowing the head of a criminal enterprise to go unpunished because it’d be all butthurty for Americans to find out just how rotten the Executive Branch could become.”
(and he wasn’t particularly clumsy; rather, he was athletic. That was just a rep he had because of a well-publicized spill back in the day.)
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
11:57 am
“getalive blogs ove at Kyle’s place???”
Not very often because it is shut down most of the time.
curious
October 2nd, 2012
11:58 am
Regnad Kcin
I agree, but reading the posts here, it is apparent one person’s screwup is another’s great achievement.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 2nd, 2012
11:58 am
STANDS,
I don’t know either…I’m concerned that the push from the DEMS is to allow anyone to vote without id in the registration of at point of voting….that would of course be disasterous…I hope that is not the case however when I hear DEMS crying about all the disenfranchised voters who want to vote for BO and can’t, particularly those with a race angle..the outcomes strived get scary to me..
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:58 am
“Brought to you by the party that refused to prosecute New Black Panthers for voter intimidation…..”
Ben, you may be surprised to learn that political parties cannot prosecute people. Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?
Citizen of the World
October 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
When President Obama was elected I remember reading posts on this very blog to the effect that: I guess you Dems/Libs (whatever) are going to be pretty disappointed when your hero/messiah/savior doesn’t come in and just snap his fingers and make everything perfect!
But his supporters were not the ones who expected that — you projected that onto us so that you could then turn around and declare Obama a failure.
We knew he was up against a lot — not the least of which was the Republican roadblock to any and all of his goals, even they were ones that would benefit the country and create jobs. But he still got some key things done, to your dismay.
So don’t say he failed us. He didn’t fail us just because he didn’t perform miracles.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
Not very often because it is shut down most of the time.
It is telling that Kyle doesn’t trust his regulars not to crap all over the place.
curious
October 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
Too many screw ups to list. you get the drift, though.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
““Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted ”
Kamchak blogs with Kyle?”
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“See what I mean?”
Regnad, can you document an attempt at discussion by Kamchak?
Fred, same question.
Thanks in advance.
lynnie gal
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
Liars are never specific on details. They’re afraid of contradicting themselves. Opps. Too late. Robme already does that on the hour.
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
I believe we should make the process easier to vote not harder.
Of course we have to make sure the gop does not cheat.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
I’m concerned that the push from the DEMS is to allow anyone to vote without id in the registration of at point of voting….that would of course be disasterous…
why of course it would be. Just as it was “disasteruous” for scores of elections when you’d show up, tell them who you were/where you lived, the registrar would have you sign something and compare it to the signature on file, and that was good enough.
I don’t know the Republic survived.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
Fred – “Regnad Kcin @ 11:54: This troll stays and drops inane comments all day, unfortunately he doesn’t run away. Folks STILL haven’t figured out that the way to deal with a troll is to ignore him so he gets a lot of attention with his crapbombs.”
Fred I think you should show some compassion and tolerance for getalife. It is pretty obvious that he is housebound. Please don’t take away his only outlet to socialize with people. Thanks.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
“Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?”
I’d have to be wrong to know.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
“Regnad Kcin @ 11:54: This troll stays and drops inane comments all day, unfortunately he doesn’t run away. Folks STILL haven’t figured out that the way to deal with a troll is to ignore him so he gets a lot of attention with his crapbombs.”
Thanks, Fred – I’m not always this slow. Usually I know how to deal with trolls. I’m just not used to there being so MANY of them all at once.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
12:01 pm
curious
October 2nd, 2012
11:58 am
Regnad Kcin
I agree, but reading the posts here, it is apparent one person’s screwup is another’s great achievement.
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Other than a small minority of real asshats, the only time the regulars jump on a typo is to point out the irony. Like someone calling another poster an idot (idiot), or when someone decides to become the Grammar Police because they have been nailed to a wall and use improper grammar and spelling in their post. Stuff like that. Otherwise it’s usually ignored.
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:01 pm
“It is telling that Kyle doesn’t trust his regulars not to crap all over the place.”
True, I don’t think baby sitter is part of his job description.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:01 pm
Stop whining Ben Shockley . The republicans can always hire another “consulting” firm to accumulate fraudulent and forged voter registration forms. You gonna need a lot of them in Pennsylvania,Florida, Ohio, Virginia, California, and New York. You better get crackin though seeing as how the Mitt MIGHT get 156 electoral votes the way it stands now.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
12:02 pm
I’m just not used to there being so MANY of them all at once.
There’s a real good chance that it is only one posting under various names.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:02 pm
Let me share a definition from the Lib Dictionary;
TROLL – Anybody who posts facts that are inconvenient to liberal dogma.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
And Ben….if they can gerrymander a few more districts before election day you at least might hold the House. LMAO!
JKL2
October 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
East Cobb- I was only a glimmer in my daddy’s eye during the Nixon/Kennedy debate, but it is my understanding Nixon refused to have make-up applied which contributed significantly to his appearance.
People who watched thought Kennedy won while those who listened to the radio thought Nixon won. Visuals did make a difference.
That’s why Democrat’s think “good looking” and “articulate” is all you need to be a good president.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
“There’s a real good chance that it is only one posting under various names.”
Why don’t you get Bookman to document that for you?
Othewise, you’re just another lib liar.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
S. Ray — “I don’t know either…I’m concerned that the push from the DEMS is to allow anyone to vote without id in the registration of at point of voting….that would of course be disasterous…”
You must have missed the discussion yesterday. I presented (again) my idea for a secure national ID and quite a few liberals were interested in it.
This claim that liberals don’t want people to have to show ID is quite simply wrong. The main reason liberals oppose most current efforts to impose ID restrictions on voting is because conservatives’ plans to do that are usually late, disorganized, rushed and half-azzed — which leads to disenfranchisement of legitimate voters.
Let’s agree to get it together, figure out a plan that’s acceptable to both sides, announce a date certain FAR in advance (so that people have plenty of time to get the new IDs) and then work together to make it happen. Y’all want secure voting. So do we. And we want to make sure that no legitimate voters get screwed — which I think y’all do too. So why don’t we work together on that instead of working at cross purposes?
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
“See what I mean?”
Regnad, can you document an attempt at discussion by Kamchak?
Fred, same question.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes I can, but you are a troll so such an endeavor would be a waste of my time so I won’t. If you are too simple to see them I can’t help you.
RB from Gwinnett
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
Kamchak – “Can you spell S O C I A L I S T ? Also know[sic] as “The redistribution of wealth”
F E A R — M O N G E R I N G
Socialism — BOO!”
Kammie, I’d be willing to bet good money when Hitler was sending all the little 13 and 14 year old girls off to “education” camps and they were all coming back pregnant, there were people just like you saying “boo” and looking the other way.
The sad thing is, I really don’t think you have any idea how dangerous your lack of understanding really is to all of our freedoms and you have no intention of finding out.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
TROLL – Anybody who posts facts that are inconvenient to liberal dogma.
Then by that definition you don’t qualify for trollhood.
You would first have to post facts.
Socialism — BOO!
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
Hey Ben! A party that can’t beat this president probably should disband. At least that’s what Laura Ingraham says.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
“And Ben….if they can gerrymander a few more districts before election day you at least might hold the House. LMAO!”
That’s what Obama said in 2010. LMAO!
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
rb plays the hitler card.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
12:08 pm
RB — “Kammie, I’d be willing to bet good money when Hitler was sending all the little 13 and 14 year old girls off to “education” camps and they were all coming back pregnant, there were people just like you saying “boo” and looking the other way.”
Translation: Hitler did horrible, scary things. Liberals want to do things that I think are horrible and scary. Therefore, liberals = Hitler.
(laughing, clapping) More! More!
I love when trolls Godwin themselves all in one post.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:08 pm
“Yes I can, but you are a troll so such an endeavor would be a waste of my time so I won’t. If you are too simple to see them I can’t help you.”
TRANSLATION: No Ben, I can’t.
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:08 pm
ben,
How is that job thingie they ran on in 10 working out for you?
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Kammie, I’d be willing to bet good money when Hitler was sending all the little 13 and 14 year old girls off to “education” camps and they were all coming back pregnant, there were people just like you saying “boo” and looking the other way.
You lose. Godwin’s law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Fred, I liked it better when you ignored me.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
The sad thing is…
More passive/aggressive crap.
You are responsible for your own emotions, not me.
If you are “sad”, then own it outright and don’t assign the responsibility to me.
Professionals more qualified than you have tried and failed to play travel agent to get me to board the shame train for a guilt trip.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
Adding on to JHM’s post about national IDs: I’d like for us to make an effort to provide as many Americans as possible with valid passports. They should be a lot cheaper, for starters.
(It’s always going to take some time to process the appropriate background checks, so I’m not suggesting that Americans should get them any more *quickly* than they do now.)
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
“How is that job thingie they ran on in 10 working out for you?”
I’ve been working for the same company for 15 years. You???
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:11 pm
Yeah, it is all about you ben.
Me generation.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:11 pm
“Professionals more qualified than you have tried and failed to play travel agent to get me to board the shame train for a guilt trip.”
You’ll take that trip to World of Gor down in your mom’s basement though.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
12:12 pm
“Yeah, it is all about you ben.”
Your question was directed at me.
Debate really isn’t your forte (look it up)
ITS ALL BUSHIE'S FAULT
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
Judge halts Pa.’s tough new voter ID requirement
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
ben,
You are not debating.
You are trolling.
Look it up troll.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
“That’s why Democrat’s think “good looking” and “articulate” is all you need to be a good president.”
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Well if that is the criteria, then Romney is a lock. I mean central casting could not send someone more “presidential looking” than the Mittster. Tall, somewhat fit, with just the right amount of grey hair. A little more baritone in the voice and statues would be built. Maybe future presidential campaigns can be run like those new GoDaddy commercials with the who you see on the outside and who is working on the inside. You would have frumpy old geezers actually running things with Fabio models giving the speeches.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
RB from Gwinnett the gravest threat to the freedom and individual liberty in this country today is the rightwing of the republican party. Nobody in their right mind wants that bunch of fruits and nuts controlling social policy that affects the everyday life of all Americans. Smart people know that. The dumb ones, well…..they’re one of them.
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
ben
If you tell a lie but believe that the lie is the truth, then, it becomes the truth. That would be your modus operendi; quite pathetic and very one dimensional. My advice to you is either drink heavily or break on through to the other side…
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
Ben, stealing from you employer?
Tsk, tsk, tsk…
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
12:17 pm
Me English not so goodly in that last post.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
12:19 pm
Mitt is the biggest fraud to run for prez…………… ever.
And that says something!
The “real” (rabid) Republicans cannot get nominated, so they keep trotting out these pretend ones.
Dysfunctional with a capital D…
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
12:20 pm
Professionals more qualified than you have tried and failed to play travel agent to get me to board the shame train for a guilt trip.
I am SO stealing that line lol. Thanks Kam.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
Anytime, Fred.
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
Adding regulations to vote is not con ideology.
Adding a tax to vote is not con ideology.
cons are not too consistent in their ideology these days.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:22 pm
Fred…I hate to break this to you but Hitler was a Fascist. Funny how people that keep throwing the S word around the most are actually the ones that don’t know what a Socialist is.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 2nd, 2012
12:25 pm
Fred…I hate to break this to you but Hitler was a Fascist.
But…but…but…right there in the name, it says National Socialist.
It’s RIGHT THERE! SEE!
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
12:25 pm
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:22 pm
Fred…I hate to break this to you but Hitler was a Fascist. Funny how people that keep throwing the S word around the most are actually the ones that don’t know what a Socialist is.
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Why the hell are you addressing this to me dummy?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 2nd, 2012
12:25 pm
Headline (AJC): “Seat licenses for new stadium?”
“Personal seat licenses that could cost fans thousands of dollars would help pay for proposed stadium.”
Hey ! Maybe Obama could tax stadium seats ! Those “eeeeevilllll rich” attending those games you know !
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:25 pm
You got that right JamVet. Rick Santorum and Todd Akin will never be acceptable to anybody to the left of Adolph Hitler. Brilliant assessment JamVet. You’re on the money with that assessment. LMAO!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 2nd, 2012
12:26 pm
Now “this” is “El Jeffe” at his finest ………… to heck with the law !
“Republicans cry foul as Obama administration offers to pay — at taxpayer expense — legal costs for defense contractors as incentive for them delaying layoff notices in advance of looming Pentagon cuts.”
Jay
October 2nd, 2012
12:27 pm
sheets
Jose
October 2nd, 2012
12:28 pm
MARISOL
obama is an anti-colonialist…………… not a socialist
getalife
October 2nd, 2012
12:29 pm
Scout,
It is socialism.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Sorry Fred. Got you confused with someone else. My apologies.
Hoover is my hero
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
311 – so, Republicans cry foul at people keeping their jobs. Sounds about right. And, as far as the proposed (although, probably written in stone by now) new stadium goes, there’s a great example of taxing everyone to make the rich richer. Why, that’s how GWB made his money with his baseball team.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
12:32 pm
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Sorry Fred. Got you confused with someone else. My apologies.
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No problems
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
12:34 pm
“Man, is this what Kyle’s blog is like all day long? People dropping firecrackers and running away, with no discussion attempted (except for “inside-the- bubble” memes)? Folks repeating a Rushism, and congratulating themselves for being clever?”
No, in case you haven’t noticed Kyle has to turn on the moderator each night before he leaves the office because the resident wingnuts there are so nasty and unpleasant, even when they’re just talking amongst themselves…
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:35 pm
Whatever he is Jose, he’s better than a rightwinger. I’m voting against the right wing of the republican party not for Obama. Santorum and his “make birth control illegal” and Todd “legitimate rape” Akin was the last straw with me. I’m from Texas and I voted for GW every time he ran there. I voted for him in 2000 and for McCain (not Palin) in 08 but the rightwing of the party gets more disgusting every day. And with the Tea Party fruits and nuts with them now enough is enough.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 2nd, 2012
12:38 pm
“10 quotes that haunt Obama”
• “Washington is broken. My whole campaign has been premised from the start on the idea that we have to fundamentally change how Washington works.”
• “I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m gonna think I’m a better political director than my political director.”
• “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
• “Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not, and a way that Bill Clinton did not.”
• “Guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now.”
• “I think that health care, over time, is going to become more popular.”
• “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.”
• “It’s here that companies like Solyndra are leading the way toward a brighter and more prosperous future.”
• “I fought with you in the Senate for comprehensive immigration reform. And I will make it a top priority in my first year as President.”
• “What we have done is kicked this can down the road. We are now at the end of the road and are not in a position to kick it any further. We have to signal seriousness in this by making sure some of the hard decisions are made under my watch, not someone else’s.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/81895_Page4.html#ixzz28A0opA00
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
Welcome to the club Marisol. You could also add to that list Mitch McConnell stating that the #1 and only priority for the GOP for the next 4 years is to make sure Obama is a 1 term president. I have found setting reasonable obtainable goals better for the self-esteem. Maybe Mitch should revise that goal to be make sure Obama is only a 2 term president.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
(CNSNews.com) – “From fiscal 2008 to fiscal 2011, according to the U.S. Treasury, the federal government increased spending on foreign aid by 80 percent and, in fiscal 2011, spent 76 percent more on foreign aid than it did securing the borders of the United States.”
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:45 pm
Rightwing Troll that’s exactly what I’m talking about. That’s what that party is right now. A bunch of angry, bitter, terrified whiners that just can’t understand why everybody else doesn’t want to be just like them.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
12:48 pm
“From fiscal 2008 to fiscal 2011, according to the U.S. Treasury, the federal government increased spending on foreign aid by 80 percent and, in fiscal 2011, spent 76 percent more on foreign aid than it did securing the borders of the United States.”
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Still a drop in the ocean compared to what 2 Bush tax cuts and 2 unfinanced wars did to the debt.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
12:51 pm
East Cobb if they continue to let the rightwingwacks control that party they’ll get President Clinton in 16. They’re too dumb to know they’re actually shoveling the dirt into their own graves by not telling the wingnuts to just go away.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 2nd, 2012
12:52 pm
This is funny, considering…
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-nfl/20121001/20121001160647128684108/
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 2nd, 2012
12:57 pm
Hillary vs Sarah in 2016. That will be fun.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
1:05 pm
I know who my money’s on in that one East Cobb. If this election doesn’t do in the republican party that one is a lock to get er done.
Reality
October 2nd, 2012
1:08 pm
SALMA! SALMA! O’BAMA< BALONEY!!!!!!!! I got a feeling the silent majority will speak LOUD on election day.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
1:08 pm
Maybe I’ll run in 16. Sarah Pain thinks being “able to see Russia” from Alaska makes her a foreign policy wonk then why not? I can see Mexico from my Ranch in Eagle Pass Texas so there you have it. I’m qualified. LMAO!
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
1:10 pm
Reality is the electoral tally Reality. Mitt can’t make it.
Marisol
October 2nd, 2012
1:16 pm
But you may be right Reality. According to FOX news 25% more Latinos will vote in 12 than did in 08. According to Karl Rove Mitt can’t win without 40% of that vote. According to FOX news 75% percent of Latinos will not vote for Romney. So yes….maybe but the majority but the silent sure are going to roar on Nov. 6 and that’s bad news for you cons. And when it happens the cons will have earned every bit of the payback.
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
1:16 pm
Romney yard sign spotted
Dave Francis
October 2nd, 2012
8:54 pm
Is it even worth voting any more, when the proof is in on Voter Fraud across the country? Of course it’s the Democrats assisted by the Communists, Liberals and extreme Socialists as our President who wants to redistribute the wealth of people who have taken the risk and built businesses and hired people. It’s certainly not the parasites that live of the taxpayers, leeching out the monetary blood that the majority has slaved for all of our lives. I’m not referring to real handicapped people or those who are seriously inflicted with sickness. What I am talking about is the “Freeloaders”, the people that are some of the 47 percent of those that are cheating the welfare system. These are the ones who will definitely vote for this president that I have become suspicious of, as much of his background remains a mystery. When his university education, his military service papers are sealed to the public? I’m not what they call a “Birther” but something is very strange, with an individual who is accepted into an Indonesian school, when only citizens of that country are allowed too???
AFTER WHOEVER WINS THE PRESIDENCY—THE TEA PARTY WILL BE CHECKING THE VOTER ROLLS TO INVESTIGATE FOR VOTER FRAUD, SO THOSE WHO ILLEGALLY VOTE WILL BE REVEALED AND PROSECUTED—WHICH IS A FELONY.
Everything says something is wrong with this situation that has been wiped clean, by a national press purchased by such degenerate Socialists as George Soros. But I have joined the TEA PARTY because I have realized, only a third party or the growing ranks of millions of hard working citizens and legal residents can save America now from an Ultra Socialist takeover. The investigation is not over in his place of birth is still suspicious according to TEA PARTY.ORG. This once long term Democrat has seen the light and has no intentions of voting for this human enigma, who has issued orders that there should be no check on people applying for food stamps. My personal opinion that both political parties are corrupt, with a very few that try to hold true to their oath of allegiance. I know one thing for sure, if he happens to win this general elections, the really affluent of this country will head for pastures new, where taxes are low and where the government leaves them alone. This exodus is already happening when the new president of France was inauguration, when he stipulated a 76 percent rise in taxes.
Same with illegal immigration, because government policies going way back has never written laws to make entry into the U.S a felony? So to the prudent mind–it is obvious that no lawmaker has deliberately ignored any law to halt the illegal invasion. Even our next door Southern neighbor has stringent laws that if you enter illegally, you are in deep (What hits the fan) as it is a felony once you cross into their country. It’s a fair assumption in the states that have lax voting laws, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens will be voting for the “Give everything away” president. Tax everybody and then spend their ill-gotten gains on the 20 million plus illegal aliens already here. You wouldn’t believe it, unless you read the facts that the county of Los Angeles is spending $1.6 billion annually on these invaders, that’s to a majority Dem Liberal state capital is a good thing? Other overall blue states keep these types of records to themselves, and only by investigation of pro-sovereignty websites will you find the actual costs. Currently the unbiased organization “Free to Vote” have been researching Voter Fraud and unlike what the national media states, it really does exist. HOUSTON, TX.—True The Vote (TTV), the nonpartisan election integrity organization, today announces new research findings of voter fraud in Ohio, Florida, New York and Rhode Island. The Offices of Florida, Ohio and Rhode Island Secretaries of State, the New York State Board of Elections and the U.S. Department of Justice were formally notified of ballots cast simultaneously in both states for federal elections.
If you want sky high taxes; higher gas prices at the pump; an antiquated tax system that benefits the privileged in both parties; a ever growing federal government with rules and regulations that inhibit new business creation; and a president that is giving even more to the “freeloader” parasites that cohabit with the illegal alien invaders who are draining the state reservoirs of money. Obama’s “Political Correctness” is causing major problems and effecting foreign policy. He has alienated Israel to some extent with his Social ideology, he refuses to us the term “Terrorist” and he still wants to keep transmitting taxpayers money in huge amounts money to Egypt and many countries and not exclusively in the middle east that hate American guts. . IT ALSO SEEMS THAT OBAMA IS IN ACCORD WITH THE CORRUPT UNITED NATIONS. WHO NOT ONLY ALLOW TERRORIST AS THE ARCH ENEMY TO AMERICA AND ISRAEL, THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN TO SPEW OUT HIS VITRIOL GARBAGE, BUT ALSO WANT TO GLOBALLY TAX US ALL. What our Congress should demand by American voters is get the UN out of our face, and cut off the 10 billion dollars we send to them.
I am sure about is the plan of the CONSTITUTION TEA PARTY if they can eject many Democrats and Republican incumbents and substitute them? It’s already happening and by replacing incumbents in the Republican Party can politically persist that the “LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT (E-VERIFY) and the BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP LAW” finds passage and enacted to control more illegal alien invaders. They bring their unborn babies here, to live as parasites of the U.S. taxpayer. The children of illegal aliens had no say in coming to America, but by the enactment of the BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP BILL, this incredulous expensive issue for taxpayers is resolved. It’s wrong in the majority of Americans minds that people who wait for years with honest attentions to come to his sovereign country, while others violate our nations laws and not only walk scott free, and are able to use fraudulent Social Security numbers to be hired for jobs. This is especially significant when millions of citizens-residents live in poverty, because there is no work available.