Are Mitt’s money men putting away the checkbooks?

From Fox Business News:

The Romney campaign is experiencing what some officials believe could be the beginning of a mass exodus of big money donors diverting their cash away from the Republican presidential hopeful and toward Republican candidates for the House and Senate races more likely to win in November, the FOX Business Network has learned.

The trend isn’t at the acute stage, at least not yet, said one person with direct knowledge of the matter. This person, a major player in Romney’s New York fundraising circles, confirmed to FOX Business that a few New York donors have backed away from financial commitments to the Romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the Republicans hold on to the House of Representatives, and pick up seats in the Senate.

But another person with direct knowledge of the matter says the trend, though nascent, is more geographically broad based, and reflects an increasing degree of anxiety both with what they believe is the tentative nature of the Romney campaign, and recent poll numbers that show President Obama with a lead, particularly in key battleground states, that some Republican contributors are starting to believe is insurmountable.

“This isn’t just a New York trend,” this person said. “It’s beginning to occur all over the place.”

If Romney does well in tomorrow night’s debate, that trend may be stopped dead in its tracks. On the other hand, if he achieves a draw or less, the disenchantment is likely to deepen, with important consequences for fundraising efforts.

A mediocre performance in Denver would also inspire another, more aggressive round of anti-Romney sniping and backstabbing from conservative media and politicians, which has the potential to do a lot more damage to the Romney cause than a withdrawal of financial support. I’ve already been struck by the fact that many conservative pundits and media figures have been even more dismissive of Romney’s chances than have their counterparts on the left. Given the right opening, they seem quite ready to bury him and move on.

– Jay Bookman

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jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
3:37 pm

Quick! Someone tell those wealthy donors those polls are skewed!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
3:38 pm

I’ve already been struck by the fact that many conservative pundits and media figures have been even more dismissive of Romney’s chances than have their counterparts on the left. Given the right opening, they seem quite ready to bury him and move on.

They eat their own.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 2nd, 2012
3:39 pm

Sounds like a smart strategy. Save as many House and Senate seats as you can.

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
3:39 pm

They’re gearing up for their “swan songs”. If he doesn’t win, (thank god), they’ll say he wasn’t “conservative enough”; which basically mean that he wasn’t as bat shite crazy as Perry, Bachmann, or Sanitarium.

The only good Con, is a Con away from money, politics, and small children.

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
3:41 pm

“They eat their own.”

It isn’t pretty…but it is quite entertaining.

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
3:43 pm

They’re gearing up for their “swan songs”. If he doesn’t win, (thank god), they’ll say he wasn’t “conservative enough”; which basically mean that he wasn’t as bat sh####t crazy as Perry, Bachmann, or Sanitarium.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
3:43 pm

The donors are skewed. The REAL donation figures are at least five to seven percent higher. :D

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
3:45 pm

Well, considering most of Mitt’s financial backers are all well-to-do businessmen, they know the foolishness of throwing good money after bad investments.

Just sayin’

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
3:45 pm

Oops I double dipped by double posting! Sorry. :oops:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
3:46 pm

jewcowboy

Schadenfreude

stands for decibels

October 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm

Schadenfreude

“Those Germans have a word for everything!”
–Homer Simpson

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm

Oh well, I missed the obvious in this article – Jay said he got his info from “Fox _____ News”.

Everyone knows that Fox +News is an oxymoron.

Zebra

October 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm

The hay is in the barn on this one. I just hope ol’ Mitt has negative coattails. Cantor’s race in Va. is closer than it should be.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
3:49 pm

Boortz said last week that if their is such as thing called “political Viagra”………… Romney needs a double shot……..

As he pisses vinegar and feigns outrage about Obama for his audience in his last few months, you can tell he thinks it is over unless Romney knocks out Obama in the debates or some huge game changing event…….

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
3:50 pm

Zebra, I’d say two things about the current state of the race:

1.) Obama’s current position is about as strong as he could have expected;
2.) Romney’s still not out of it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
3:51 pm

Alternet has this same story with this caveat: Karl Rove’s “Crossroads” SuperPACs are preparing a spending blitz, their “deepest saturation” yet, according to POLITICO:

American Crossroads and its affiliate Crossroads GPS are going up today with their biggest paid media push so far in the 2012 cycle, with a $16 million one-week buy on TV and radio in eight presidential battlegrounds and four Senate contests, POLITICO has learned.

St Simons

October 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm

Don’t give up the (Cayman) ship yet cons!
Obama is soooo over!
Your most popular bumpersticker says Don’t Re-Nig, cons
I mean, anybody breathing can beat this guy!
He’s a one-term Jimmah Cahter!
Its so obvious heheh

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm

They BOTH

Any candidate that would have gotten the nomination was doomed to fail. The current GOP apparatus is set up for failure. They’ve gone so far to the right that any candidate has to step into make-believe land in order to satisfy the base. When they do that, it is harder and harder to move back to the center.

Before we had instant access to each and every speech, a candidate could do base stirring speeches in one area and then pull to the middle in some other area the next day. It’s next to impossible to do that now with cellphone cameras and youtube.

stands for decibels

October 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm

2.) Romney’s still not out of it.

of course not. Nate has him with the same odds as a team that’s down by a touchdown going into the 4th quarter–a 15% chance is still a chance, after all.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm

I mean, anybody breathing can beat this guy!

Or not breathing.

It was just a few months ago there claims that Elmer Fudd could beat Obama.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm

Kam

I’m sure the Super Pacs are getting ready to empty out the cupboards…….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm

there *were* claims

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
3:58 pm

“$16 million one-week buy on TV and radio”

As someone who watches very little television, only satellite radio (music) or NPR and gets all his entertainment from the internet can someone tell me if these ads actually work? It would seem to me that most people tune them out or ignore them, but I’m not most people.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
3:58 pm

Bro

Good point. Candidates still do it, but not as easy to cater a different message for every state, region, etc……….

You can do it, but as you say, you will get caught before long.

Of course, Romney is not out, yet, but I believe many on the right took 2010 as some sort of mandate. The Democrats probably would have feel into the same trap.

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
3:59 pm

Ok, here’s a rare moment when I come on this forum and slam the republicans. Romney is a fairly weak candidate. He was the best of the bunch that ran this cycle and I think he will be tremendously better than Obama if elected. But he was merely the best of a weak field this cycle.

Worse yet, some of the conservative talk show hosts have been extremely critical of him from the beginning of the primary season. Part of that is because he was a moderate in MA, but I honestly think some of it has to to with his Mormon religion, and that reflects very poorly on them.

Now back to my regularly scheduled democrat bashing.

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm

It would seem to me that most people tune them out or ignore them, but I’m not most people.

Most people claim to tune them out, and sincerely believe they’re not influenced. Reality says otherwise.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm

jewcowboy

I doubt that you are seeing many ads in Ga., but up here in the N.C. Mtns we’re getting blitzed with ‘em.

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
4:02 pm

“but I believe many on the right took 2010 as some sort of mandate. ”

And it was…to create jobs. Which the GOP took to mean abortion rights, gay rights, contraception etc. Basically, everything BUT jobs.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm

The evil part of me hopes that Mitt “wins” this debate.

Why?

Because I love the smell of desperate neocon hope in the morning.

Romney cannot win this election.

Obama could lose it.

With a series of missteps and self-inflicted wounds.

But in reality, who is more prone to that?

Mitt Romney’s “47 percent” remarks are still reverberating in the presidential campaign, with a new poll showing that two-thirds of Americans have heard about the comments and a majority of them saying it could affect their vote, Politico reported.

The Pew Research Center poll found that 55 percent had a negative reaction to the remarks and 23 percent had a positive one, with a fifth had no reaction or a neutral reaction.

Only 54 percent of Republicans had a positive reaction. Romney, who is trailing in swing states such as Ohio and Florida, needs independents to win the White House.

But among independents, only 18 percent had a positive reaction to the remarks and 55 percent had a negative one.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-pew-47-percent/2012/10/02/id/458391

Better luck in 2016, cons…

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:05 pm

You can do it, but as you say, you will get caught before long.

As the old saying goes, “It’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks.” What Romney’s doing is classic campaigning. He has not adapted the old technique to fit today’s technology. As a result, he seems way out of touch. Until the GOP moderates the fringe, they are going to get the same results as this election.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
4:05 pm

Be on the lookout!

There is a new All Points Bulletin for the missing Elmer Fudd!

He was last seen hanging out at a club in Atlanta with Herman Cain eying co-workers…

Rightwing Troll

October 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm

” He was the best of the bunch that ran this cycle and I think he will be tremendously better than Obama if elected. But he was merely the best of a weak field this cycle.”

Incorrect sir!… Huntsman was a viable candidate who would’ve at this very moment been enjoying a substantial lead, but he was “not conservative enough” for the batshiite crazy “base” because he didn’t etch-a-sketch hisself into a severely conservative candidate. So you all let the one who would’ve (almost certainly) walked away with this thing fade away, and chose the insincere empty suit.

jconservative

October 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm

I would agree that Romney has received more negative talk from self-styled conservatives than from the “liberal media”. “It is a vast right wing conspiracy.”

If the “liberal media” is the ogre is is portrayed to be, someone needs to account for the election of Republican moderates such as Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 in light of the poor showing of the moderate Romney.

Romney’s problem is that he knows more about political campaigning than his political staff and demands that they listen to him.

Georgia, The " New Mississippi "

October 2nd, 2012
4:07 pm

Don’t count R-money and his sidekick Eddie Munster out. No telling how well the GOP voter suppression machine will run until election day.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm

alittlecommonsense — “Romney is a fairly weak candidate. He was the best of the bunch that ran this cycle and I think he will be tremendously better than Obama if elected. But he was merely the best of a weak field this cycle.”

Personally, I think y’all would have done better with Buddy Roemer or Jon Huntsman, but they weren’t far enough right for the GOP, IMO.

indigo

October 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm

For sometime now, American politics has been fueled by big money. Generally, the most well-funded candidates, not neceserally the most competent, wind up running for office and being elected.

How did we get into this kind of sad situation?

How do we get out of it?

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:09 pm

Romney is a fairly weak candidate. He was the best of the bunch that ran this cycle and I think he will be tremendously better than Obama if elected.

I completely disagree with that. Romney, if elected, would be nothing more than a puppet figure in DC. We have all seen how the Far Right will completely steamroll him if he gets elected. The GOP’s best chance to unseat Obama was Huntsman, but unfortunately he has more sense than to play the “rabid right” character that you have to portray in order to get traction.

If you look at Huntsman’s accomplishments as governor, he has a far more conservative record than Romney, yet he’s also shown that he’s capable of dealing with the Dems without abandoning his conservatism. I think Huntsman would have easily pulled independents and moderates from Obama, but we’ll never know if that’s right or not.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
3:50 pm

Zebra, I’d say two things about the current state of the race:

1.) Obama’s current position is about as strong as he could have expected;
2.) Romney’s still not out of it.
++++++++++++++++++++

LOL Are you SURE you aren’t writing Romney’s position papers? Talk about a post that didn’t say anything……………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8

Jeffrey

October 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm

I was surprised that wall street money backed Romney in the first place. Did they really think he could control the loonies in congress?

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm

Aquagirl,

“Reality says otherwise.”

But is it just a reinforcement of their predisposed preference? For instance, I don’t out of the blue go to say Burberry’s website, but when Facebook puts up an ad I will click it. If that ad is for Pepboys, I don’t click it. Are political ads the same? We tune into the ones we want to hear and reinforce our beliefs and ignore those we don’t want to hear or challenge what we want to believe?

How effective are political ads as far as a ROI on either turning out people who may stay home or changing minds?

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm

And it was…to create jobs. Which the GOP took to mean abortion rights, gay rights, contraception etc. Basically, everything BUT jobs

word.

hiya jewcowboy how’ve ya been? haven’t seen you “around” lately. Hope you and yours are fine.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm

After a brief bow to matters of substance in the election downstairs, I see Big Daddy has given us a thread sure to bring out all the inanities associated with this third rate “campaign.” It shouldn’t take long for the campaign slogans to drown out and push into the background that to which we really should be paying attention.

As for the GOP implosion, Fareed Zakharia had an interesting take on it Sunday. Boiled down, Romney can’t say anything definite because what the base and the lunatic fringe are claiming they’ll do in office has no basis in reality and, given the office, Romney’s “plan” will fly in the face of “all that” if he expects to accomplish anything at all.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm

Completely off-topic:

Bikini basketball is coming (pun intended) to the ATL

According to the league’s Twitter account, you’ve got your Chicago Desire, Orlando LadyCats, Miami Spice, Los Angeles Ice, New York Knockouts, Hollywood Hotties and Atlanta Fleet Angels.

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:14 pm

Any candidate that would have gotten the nomination was doomed to fail. The current GOP apparatus is set up for failure. They’ve gone so far to the right that any candidate has to step into make-believe land in order to satisfy the base. When they do that, it is harder and harder to move back to the center.

Couldn’t you say the same about the Dems? Look at the recent presidential races. I can’t even remember the last time the Dems ran a more centrist candidate than the Republicans did. Maybe Clinton vs Dole, but I would call that one pretty much a tie.

Romney = Moderate
McCain = Moderate
Bush Jr = Socially conservative, Fiscally Moderate
Dole = Moderate
Bush Sr = Moderate
Reagan = conservative (ran twice against liberals just as liberal as he was conservative)

Probably the only moderate on the Dem side in all that time was Clinton on fiscal issues. And he wasn’t really that fiscally moderate until he took a spanking in his first midterm election and had to deal with a Republican congress.

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm

Howdy DebbieDoRight,

Work keeps me rather busy…you know…all those non-existent shovel-ready jobs. ;) But all is good. I trust it is all copacetic in your world.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm

K’Chak — “Bikini basketball is coming (pun intended) to the ATL”

Is this like that lingerie football league thing? It’s okay, but IMO it needs more redheads. :D

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
4:18 pm

<i.How did we get into this kind of sad situation?

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010)

How do we get out of it?

In about 10 years, after some of the old folks on the USSC die out, we can revisit the ruling. Until then, Corporations are entitled to “free speech”.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:18 pm

The New Mississippi

I see you’re here with your idiot monniker, too bad Georgia ain’t…the Magnolia State was number 6 of the 50 in increase in personal income in the last report…

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm

JAY,

Agree with your assessment..

Appropos of nothing, I was trying to identify adjusted unemployment number since 2008…adjusted for those underemployed or stopped looking…What I found could be great fodder for Romney..

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Not a good picture for President Trillions…if anyone has more credible data I’d love to see it..

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm

“I can’t even remember the last time the Dems ran a more centrist candidate than the Republicans did.”

Funny considering Obama pushed to pass legislation that was a Republican idea concocted by the Heritage Society and implemented in a state run by a Republican Gov.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm

Dang Kam,couldn’t you find a link with pics?

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:14 pm
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What a bunch of partisan tripe. Bush was about as far right as one can get. He PRETENDED to be moderate and a “compromiser” in 2000, but as soon as he was elected he ran as far right as he could.

You ruin all credibility with posts like that one.

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm

Huntsman seemed perfectly capable but got no one fired up. He got no traction because he was a weak candidate – not because he wasn’t a capable guy, nor because he was too moderate. If that was a disqualifier, McCain would have never gotten the nomination. And Romney’s credibility among conservatives isn’t great either.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm

Bro @ 4:05

Exactly. Gerrymandering, which both parties do, has helped the Republicans on the Congressional level. They have won a ton of seats and have fooled themselves that the country “really” is majority far right. That is not the case, but gerrymandering districts gives that appearance.

Two things to add to that:

1. Demographics will eventually catch up and surpass any sort of gerrymandering that can be done. Will not take place at the same time because the demographic changes are changing at different rates in each state. Republicans appear to be making more efforts at outreach, which is a good thing. Better late than never, but the inevitable is coming. Hopefully that has an impact as to what you stated: Repubs moving more “Center right” as opposed to so many being “far right”.

2. That appearance could have been a short term gain, but could lead to long term loses if they continue down the same path. Even with the outreach I mentioned, at least in the Congress, there seems to be a push to go further right…….. even knowing what the demographic trends are showing.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm

If these rich bisturds would pay into the federal taxes the amount of money they are throwing into the election, we could probably have a balanced budget and retire the debt in a decade or 2.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:21 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

Yes it is like the lingerie football league, but the article goes on to state that the Bikini Hockey League didn’t fare too well.

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
4:21 pm

Work keeps me rather busy…you know…all those non-existent shovel-ready jobs. ;) But all is good. I trust it is all copacetic in your world.

Everyone is fine — my daddy’s rich and my mama’s good looking! Catfish are jumping and the water is high! :)

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:21 pm

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:18 pm

The New Mississippi

I see you’re here with your idiot monniker, too bad Georgia ain’t…the Magnolia State was number 6 of the 50 in increase in personal income in the last report…
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You tell him josef. Georgia ain’t a pimple on a good Mississippians butt.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm

Couldn’t you say the same about the Dems?

Nowhere near the extent of the GOP. Hillary Clinton is proof of that with her vote related to the Iraq War. You also have to consider that what people perceive as “centrist” is actually center-right. The GOP has pulled the entire political spectrum to the right, but that still doesn’t change the center, regardless of what people think.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm

jewcowboy

Howdy!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
4:24 pm

alittlecommonsense

Outside of the fact that he is running against Obama, where does Romney get his credibility from?

I would assume from the economics side. He has changed many positions on social issues just to get the social conservative vote……….

I can see where the social conservative voter would give him the nod over Obama, but not sure if he is “credible” on many of those issues.

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:24 pm

Fred – you say “What a bunch of partisan tripe” because I called Bush a fiscal moderate. But didn’t Obama slam him for how much he spent? When a liberal democrat slams you for spending too much, you certainly aren’t a fiscal conservative.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 2nd, 2012
4:25 pm

DEBBIE,

Better yet, let’s amend the constitution to provide only public money for campaigns…too bad the system renders this political suicide therefor neutering our elected and otherwise professional, career politicians…

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:25 pm

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:24 pm

Fred – you say “What a bunch of partisan tripe” because I called Bush a fiscal moderate. But didn’t Obama slam him for how much he spent? When a liberal democrat slams you for spending too much, you certainly aren’t a fiscal conservative.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I stand correct. My apologies.

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

Howdy josef!

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

FRED
Just doing my job being fair and balanced vis a vis Mississippi (or was it Louisiana!) :-)

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

corrected not correct lol.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

“Yes it is like the lingerie football league, but the article goes on to state that the Bikini Hockey League didn’t fare too well.”

May be this will fare better…..

http://lingeriebasketball.com/

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm

josef: We’uns on the South and West edges of Mississippi had the best of both States.

joe

October 2nd, 2012
4:28 pm

I guess we’ll see about 5-10 bash Mitt posts per day from Bookman the closer the election gets and the closer the polls get. Whatsamatter Bookman, you feeling the heat today? LOL

Obama is toast!!

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:28 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm

THAT’S what I’m talkin bout! whew!

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:28 pm

LOL East Cobb. The Bikini Basketball league doesn’t have THEIR site up yet.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

Dangit Kamchak, now I gotta walk around the office holding a strategically placed notepad.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

They BOTH @ 4:20

I completely agree with you on that. Graham has already seen the demographic bomb that’s about to explode on them. At some point, you have to adapt to the changing world or get left behind.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

K’Chak — “Yes it is like the lingerie football league, but the article goes on to state that the Bikini Hockey League didn’t fare too well.”

OooOOOoooOOOooo. Goose-pimply! :D

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
4:30 pm

Stevie — I think everyone in America would probably be served better if the cost of campaigning wasn’t so expensive. I think with the consultants, the pollsters, etc.; the costs have just skyrocketed.

And then when you add special interest groups into the mix, — it becomes outlandish. I don’t know if there’s ever been a “clean” campaign in US History; but ever since the United ruling, the campaigns have gotten dirtier and dirtier.

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm

josef

“Just doing my job being fair and balanced vis a vis Mississippi (or was it Louisiana!) :-)

And they (Mississippi) make one hell of a range.

http://www.vikingrange.com/consumer/product/products/cooking/freestanding-ranges/d3-series-ranges/30–freestanding-ranges/30–dual-fuel-self-clean-burner-range—rdscd?skuPassthru=false

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

Is that an iphone in your pocket, or are you just glad to see Alex Morgan?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm

E. C. RINO — “http://lingeriebasketball.com/”

“Where beauty meets the hardwood.”

LMAO. :D

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm

Here are some promo shots for the bikini league……..

http://twitter.com/i/?url=pic.twitter.com%2F4xtf2QsJ#!/BikiniBall/media/slideshow

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:32 pm

FRED
True, that. French colonial-Choctaw Mississippi’s still got it over Chickasaw-English colonial Mississippi… :-)

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:34 pm

alittlecommonsense

The problem with labeling Bush as a fiscal moderate is the fact that he ran Supply-Side Playbook 2000 from the time he settled down in DC. He was no fiscal moderate in the widest stretch of the definition.

To give you an idea of how much the GOP has shifted the political spectrum, righties try to label Obama as far right, yet his signature legislation was

1) A healthcare plan that sold us out to business. He basically put our healthcare system at the mercy of the free market with little to no government control over costs.

2) A stimulus plan that was 1/3 supply side tax cuts.

That’s why I don’t believe hardly any of the labeling that’s applied from the right. Their perspective is flawed because of their outlying positioning.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:34 pm

Somebody needs to wake up joe,he’s dreaming! lol

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:34 pm

” At some point, you have to adapt to the changing world or get left behind”

That has not been the GOP strategy. As far as they are concerned, the problem is not the message, it is how the message is being delivered and the people are at fault for not getting it. That is fine with me as it keeps the downward spiral going.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
4:34 pm

josef: It sounds so tawdry when you put it like that. So French supporting……….

LOl Gotta go do the only thing the french do good……… cook.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
4:35 pm

R. Scootter — “Somebody needs to wake up joe,he’s dreaming! lol”

Dreamin’ of redheads playin’ bassetball in their undies, yeah. :D

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm

Tip of the hat Fred. I think that’s the first time in the history of this blog that anyone has ever conceded a point. Lol.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm

Is that an iphone in your pocket

Yes the Samsung Galaxy S3 with the largest display because size matters.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:37 pm

jewcowboy

Not long ago I was looking at what the manufacturing sector therebouts was focusing on, it was amazing how much had to do with food and cooking…

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

October 2nd, 2012
4:37 pm

Have a happy Tuesday fellows — and remember………….

Friends don’t let friends watch bikini basketball……………….

:)

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:38 pm

Dreamin’ of redheads playin’ bassetball in their undies, yeah

Me too Joe,but I was talking about the joe that said Obama is toast. lol

Rightwing Troll

October 2nd, 2012
4:39 pm

“Huntsman seemed perfectly capable but got no one fired up. He got no traction because he was a weak candidate – not because he wasn’t a capable guy, nor because he was too moderate. If that was a disqualifier, McCain would have never gotten the nomination. And Romney’s credibility among conservatives isn’t great either.”

No… he didn’t excite the batshiite crazies who rule in the primaries, the responses here indicate that he was a very viable and palatable choice for those of us in the middle. When you have a primary season that begins with a buzz about Rick Perry entering the fray, hits it’s stride with Cain, Bachman, and Newt neck in neck, and fizzles out with Mitten’s ultimately outlasting them all… what does that say for your party? Meanwhile, Huntsman refused to play to the crazies and got no traction.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:41 pm

FRED

Well, they do run a pretty good Ho House! :-)

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:41 pm

East Cobb

I think this is the motivational direction of many of the messengers, or at least it seems that way…

http://www.piratesplunder.com/images/products/flags/Beatings_450.jpg

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
4:42 pm

“Friends don’t let friends watch bikini basketball……………”

Oh yes they do………

;-)

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
4:42 pm

Rightwing Troll @ 4:39 pm

Can I co-sign that post??? Spot on!!!

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:43 pm

My Daddy told me to stay clear of redheads…nothing but trouble…and he should know, he married one!

Rightwing Troll

October 2nd, 2012
4:43 pm

Can’t imagine why ladies, in bikinis, on the ice, wouldn’t do well…

GT

October 2nd, 2012
4:45 pm

Republican are a negative bunch, it is the glue that keeps them together. The further right you go the darker the brooding, the greater the fears, it is just not in their DNA to be happy. They are always seceding, taking their balls and going home. They have the showmanship of a criminal attorney defending a guilty man where only the lawyer’s theatrics can divert the attention of the jury from the devil he defends to another subject that may confuse the jury so much they forget the facts. Facts are the vampire cross to Republicans, it is the reason they are always unhappy. The facts are all around them, it makes lying harder. It is like be soaking wet from rain and telling your neighbor it is sunny and bright. Oh to be a fly on the wall, to watch a military coo in the land of make believe. To try to figure what lie sunk the ship and who to believe enough to do an autopsy. There may be honor among thieves but there is none among liars.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:47 pm

Brosephus™, I think that is their mission statement or at least somewhere in the core values.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 2nd, 2012
4:48 pm

Don’t be surprised if those same “New York financial guys” start pouring money into the Obama campaign hoping that it’ll help get them access sometime in the next four years. They’re nothing if not craven.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:49 pm

Can’t imagine why ladies, in bikinis, on the ice, wouldn’t do well

What the puck,me either!

St Simons

October 2nd, 2012
4:49 pm

E. C. RINO — “http://lingeriebasketball.com/”

Joe – “Where beauty meets the hardwood.”

ok, you KNOW the name for the Portland team……

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 2nd, 2012
4:49 pm

BTW, the Obama campaign celebrated their 10 millionth contributor yesterday. 10 million individual contributors to the campaign. Think about how many votes that will turn into compared to Romney’s huge donors only strategy.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:50 pm

“Friends don’t let friends watch bikini basketball……………”

Oh yes they do………

I think we’ve just found our blog get-together spot.

There is still no announcement where the Atlanta Fleet Angels will play, though….

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:50 pm

GT, that almost sounds like Republicans are goth with the brooding and all. Considering goth is into vampires and blood sucking, it all makes sense now.

bman

October 2nd, 2012
4:52 pm

Bikini Basketball?? What??

Will Aquagirl be playing ?

willydoit?

October 2nd, 2012
4:53 pm

I think it is pretty smart to donate to the Republican candidates for the House and Senate races, if those guys are reelected, those are also votes for Romney.
Work on keeping the house, get the presidential votes for free!

Most Americans vote down the party line anyway.

How many of you Dims will vote for John Lewis, but not vote for Obama?

pogo

October 2nd, 2012
4:53 pm

With his absolute loyalty to Obama and everything leftist, Jay continues to destroy what our founding fathers meant when they granted freedom of speech for the press. They meant for the press to be the last line of defense for the American people in their hope that the press would be unwavering in their pursuit of the truth about politicians no matter which party they were covering. We all now know that this was a naive hope. Jay, in a small way, is proof of it. He, like most journalists now cannot find one single fault with Obama. Yes, Romney has his faults but Obama is pushing this country towards absolute destruction with his ineptness and lack of leadership and these things are proven. Our country is in a death spiral and still all Jay and the Obama lackey’s in the press can talk about is Romney. Your children and your grand children will one day thank you Jay for selling out their freedom because once the government takes over basically every facet of their lives, they will live as slaves. Personal achievement will be dead and there will be no need to exceed in anything. In just the pass few weeks the extent of Obama’s total ineptitude as a leader have been shown and Jay and the liberal press simply chose to ignore it because of the election. You should be proud Jay. You stand for nothing.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
4:54 pm

Portland ?????????????????????

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
4:55 pm

ogop, did you turn that wascally wetailer in to the police for selling lottery tickets to people using plastic?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
4:55 pm

Our country is in a death spiral and still all Jay and the Obama lackey’s in the press can talk about is Romney.

No, we’re talking about bikini basketball.

Do try to keep up.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:55 pm

Think about how many votes that will turn into compared to Romney’s huge donors only strategy.

Had nothing to do with strategy,ByteMe.He just knew that us 47%ers weren’t going to send him any money. :grin:

St Simons

October 2nd, 2012
4:55 pm

Portland Beavers

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
4:57 pm

George W. Bush was a fiscal conservative????????????????

Oh my goodness.

Life in the parallel reality called RepubliLaLaLand…

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
4:59 pm

No, we’re talking about bikini basketball.

Do try to keep up.

:lol:

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
4:59 pm

No… he didn’t excite the batshiite crazies who rule in the primaries, the responses here indicate that he was a very viable and palatable choice for those of us in the middle.

Do you really expect anyone to believe you are “in the middle”? Middle of what – Mussolini and Marx?

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
5:00 pm

Romney has deep pockets.
The donors may be slowing
because he is slowing. If
he was confident he’d
spend the hundred million
in the 401k.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:00 pm

Portland Beavers

Now that is funny right there. No matter who you are. Bless the pygmies.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:00 pm

Portland Beavers

OMG!!!!!

alittlecommonsense

October 2nd, 2012
5:03 pm

George W. Bush was a fiscal conservative????????????????

Actually I think we have all agreed that he wasn’t fiscally conservative. I personally found that highly disappointing with his presidency.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:03 pm

Portland Beavers

And my wife’s from Oregon! :D

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:04 pm

josef

October 2nd, 2012
4:41 pm

FRED

Well, they do run a pretty good Ho House! :-)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

And you would know HOW? :lol:

They DO have some of the best drag shows around on New Orleans don’t they?

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:06 pm

FRED

Got family in the bidness! :-)

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:06 pm

There is still no announcement where the Atlanta Fleet Angels will play, though….

I offer my backyard. I’ll build a court…….

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:08 pm

And my wife’s from Oregon!

I sure hope she didn’t see you type about those redheads in underware! :grin:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:08 pm

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:09 pm

Not only was he not fiscally conservative, he was not remotely fiscally responsible. Or even competent. Eclipsing even Reagan as the worst of the worst in that regard.

Because of him and his gang of warmongering idiots, the GOP brand is now HIGHLY toxic.

And I suspect that the Republicans will not see the inside of the White house for another 12 years.

At a minimum.

Primarily because they have demonstrated that they are utterly unwilling to learn from their endless debacles and change one iota.

Which is fine by me…

A Simple Man

October 2nd, 2012
5:09 pm

*sigh*

I keep waiting for the article that says, “Vote Obama! Here’s the great things he’s done!”

Insert cricket noise….

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:10 pm

pogo

October 2nd, 2012
4:53 pm

With his absolute loyalty to Obama and everything leftist, Jay continues to destroy what our founding fathers meant when they granted freedom of speech for the press. They meant for the press to be the last line of defense for the American people in their hope that the press would be unwavering in their pursuit of the truth about politicians no matter which party they were covering. We all now know that this was a naive hope. Jay, in a small way, is proof of it. He, like most journalists now cannot find one single fault with Obama. Yes, Romney has his faults but Obama is pushing this country towards absolute destruction with his ineptness and lack of leadership and these things are proven. Our country is in a death spiral and still all Jay and the Obama lackey’s in the press can talk about is Romney. Your children and your grand children will one day thank you Jay for selling out their freedom because once the government takes over basically every facet of their lives, they will live as slaves. Personal achievement will be dead and there will be no need to exceed in anything. In just the pass few weeks the extent of Obama’s total ineptitude as a leader have been shown and Jay and the liberal press simply chose to ignore it because of the election. You should be proud Jay. You stand for nothing.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You on the other hand stand for a whole bunch. You stand for every other ignorant poster who comes here who doesn’t know what in the hell the term, “Opinion Blog” means.

Is it tough going through life being so simple? How would you describe Kyle? Or Neal? Or Rush? Or Sean?

I want the 30 seconds of my life back that I just wasted on you.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:11 pm

Sorry, but from what I’ve seen of most women bballers, I’m not that interested.

Now, women’s tennis in bikinis and I might actually watch a match…

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:11 pm

FRED
Speaking of, did you ever see the Black Birds back in the day?

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:11 pm

A Simple Man

October 2nd, 2012
5:09 pm

*sigh*

I keep waiting for the article that says, “Vote ObamaRomney! Here’s the great things he’s done!”

Insert cricket noise….
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

There. I fixed that for you.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:11 pm

Scootter — “I sure hope she didn’t see you type about those redheads in underware!”

Wifey is aware of my . . . ah . . . interest in readheads. She says I can read the menu, but I’m not allowed to order anything. :D

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:12 pm

Enter your comments hereI offer my backyard. I’ll build a court…….

If I can get Kam to come down and help I will build the bleachers! Let’s do this!!!

bman

October 2nd, 2012
5:12 pm

“I offer my backyard. I’ll build a court”

I’ll serve hotdogs and be the waterboy…all for free. In fact, I’ll pay to do it

Rightwing Troll

October 2nd, 2012
5:12 pm

“Do you really expect anyone to believe you are “in the middle”? Middle of what – Mussolini and Marx?”

An idiot like yourself will believe what you want to believe, never mind the truth. It’s morons like you who have dragged the party so far to the right that a good old fashioned centrist now simply appears to be far left… it’s a illusion perpetrated by cro-magnon troglodytes such as yourself who choose to live in a Faux news augmented reality…

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:13 pm

josef: It doesn’t ring a bell, but if they were in the French Quarter in the late 70’s early 80’s I did.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:13 pm

K’Chak — “About our discussion yesterday on the cost of the ID card compared to what is spent”

I know that cost and expense of such a program is a big concern for you. Assuming that the $6-8 billion figure is correct, what’s your opinion on that? Outrageous and indefensible? Unbelievable bargain? Somewhere in between?

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:15 pm

Wifey is aware of my . . . ah . . . interest in readheads. She says I can read the menu, but I’m not allowed to order anything.

You lucky devil,My wife wouldn’t even let me read the menu without getting mad. lol

Rightwing Troll

October 2nd, 2012
5:15 pm

“I keep waiting for the article that says, “Vote Obama! Here’s the great things he’s done!”

Insert cricket noise….”

Even more telling, is the fact that he’s winning WITHOUT having to produce such an ad…

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:17 pm

You lucky devil,My wife wouldn’t even let me read the menu without getting mad.

Does she change the channel when a Wendy’s commercial comes on?

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:18 pm

Rightwing Troll

October 2nd, 2012
5:12 pm

Why don’t you tell us how you REALLY feel! :shock:

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
5:18 pm

Does she change the channel when a Wendy’s commercial comes on?

_____________________________

That was “badabing” good

too funny

:-)

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:18 pm

FRED

Coast, late 60s to mid 70s…they did their own material…real cabaret style…

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:19 pm

I’d also note that not only was GWB not anything within the Hubble telescope of being fiscally responsible, those other descriptions were equally ludicrous.

Lesson number one – Neocons are NOT conservatives.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:20 pm

Does she change the channel when a Wendy’s commercial comes on?

Yes,cause she knew I was a pedophykle also! :shock:

USMC

October 2nd, 2012
5:20 pm

“I guess we’ll see about 5-10 bash Mitt posts per day from Bookman the closer the election gets and the closer the polls get. Whatsamatter Bookman, you feeling the heat today? LOL”–Joe

No, Jay Bookman is too far under the ETHER to feel anything, let alone heat.

He is merely following the Party’s Marching orders passed down to him from the Party’s Political Operatives.

Jay is told to spread as much negative and deceptive Propaganda on Mitt Romney as possible. :-)

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

E. C. Rino — “Does she change the channel when a Wendy’s commercial comes on?”

That little cutie is easy on the eyes. I sure wouldn’t have minded a GF that looked like her when I was an undergrad.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

I’m of the opinion that ID card is gonna be in the neighborhood of $100 per head to produce and distribute, which puts the cost at $20.7 billion.

Like you, I have qualms about the giving-up-the-data-loss-of-freedom issue, but if it means fair elections….well, I dunno.

What I do know is that faced with this kind of expenditure (2-3 times what the cost of ad buys for the entire 2012 election cycle), taxpayers are gonna scream, NO, F*CK NO!

Krystal'sBalls

October 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

I hope for a Romney defeat, if for no other reason (and I have more than a few) than to send a message that the office of the President cannot be bought. I think it would work wonders for the electoral process and empowering the American public to realize that information and civic engagement can trump sheer dollars every time.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

Jay is told to spread as much negative and deceptive Propaganda on Mitt Romney as possible.

And what’s sad is that there is so MUCH to tell that he can’t get it all in before the election. He started too late……..

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:27 pm

“………… the office of the President cannot be bought…………….”

Until congress grows a pair and passes a law which effectively overturns a little SCOTUS ruling you may have heard about, that will continue to be the case. And the price will go way higher next time around. I am certain Obama would sign such a law and Romney would veto it.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:28 pm

Off Topic: (like I hadn’t already been there) but I am hopeing someone can help me.
Every time I hit refresh a message comes on at tha bottom of the page saying”Internet Explorer has modified this page to prevent cross-cite scripting”. Anyone please!!!

pogo

October 2nd, 2012
5:28 pm

If Jay and his buddies in the liberal press can’t find one thing to criticize or even investigate about Obama, then everyone of you should be scared. They are rapidly becoming nothing but an arm of a propaganda machine for the federal government who only tell you what you want to hear.

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

“ready to ditch him and move on”…… Pray tell, dear host, give us some concrete examples of people who have “ditched” our candidate. Links to their comments and who said it.

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

Bikini Basketball?? What??

Will Aquagirl be playing ?

You wish. :)

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

kayaker, maybe you should read more carefully.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm

Every time I hit refresh a message comes on at tha bottom of the page saying”Internet Explorer has modified this page to prevent cross-cite scripting”. Anyone please!!!

Download and switch to FireFox or Google Chrome

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Real Scootter? Have you upgraded to IE 9?

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Okay, Romney folks…I’m gay, I’m doing okay financially, and my big concern is foreign policy…tell me why I should vote for Romney…

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Real Scootter, I used to have all kinds of weirdness refreshing these pages (they should auto refresh but I digress), then someone suggested I turn off compatibility mode and it works much better.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

Will Aquagirl be playing ?

You wish.

Maybe your signature red tie-dyed?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

K’Chak — “Like you, I have qualms about the giving-up-the-data-loss-of-freedom issue, but if it means fair elections….well, I dunno.”

I know. It irritates me, too, but I just can’t think of another way to do it.

“What I do know is that faced with this kind of expenditure (2-3 times what the cost of ad buys for the entire 2012 election cycle), taxpayers are gonna scream, NO, F*CK NO!”

At the same time, we’ll hear some of the Cro-Magnons on the other political side screaming DEPORT THEM ALL, and I’ve got to ask — how the eff much do they think THAT will cost? And it *still* won’t secure our voting system and our labor markets.

Back when I was a enterprise systems consultant, a very wise lady explained to me that every major IT project has three dimensions along which it can be measured. Those dimensions are Speed, Cost and Quality. It’s not possible to max the scale on all three, but you can max the scale on *two.*

She explained that if the client wants the product to be Fast and Good, it won’t be Cheap.

If the client wants Cheap and Good, they can’t have it Fast.

And if the client wants Fast and Cheap, it won’t be any Good.

I think we can agree that we want a high-quality system to secure our voting system, our job market, and our Federal benefits system. Quality is a high priority, otherwise we wouldn’t be spending the money.

So do we do it Cheap and Slow, or Expensive and Fast? What are your thoughts?

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm

Bookman, 5:29,

I am reading just fine. You don’t specifically say who this mystery GOP person is or give us a link to what he said. You are always demanding that persons that post “certain knowledge” of an event prove it. So prove it.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

Read ‘em and weep, 71… (There are plenty more.)

Nervousness first surfaced publicly among Republican Senate candidates two weeks ago, with the disclosure of a video of Romney saying 47 percent of Americans pay no income taxes and a like percentage view themselves as victims who are entitled to government benefits. As a candidate, he said, “my job is not to worry” about them.

Linda McMahon, making a second try for a Senate seat from Connecticut, quickly expressed a different opinion. “I disagree with Governor Romney’s insinuation that 47 percent of Americans believe they are victims who must depend on the government for their care,” she said in a statement released by her campaign.

Republican Rep. Dean Heller, in a competitive race for a Senate seat in Nevada, said, “My mom was a school cafeteria cook, so I have a very different view of the world than the one Romney expressed.”

Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson, running for the Senate, said, “The presidential thing is bound to have an impact on every election.”

From that liberal rag:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/GOP-Romney-Worries/2012/10/02/id/458411

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

Bikini Basketball?? What??

Will Aquagirl be playing ?

You wish.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

No kidding right? I mean come on it’s all in the name, AQUAgirl. She does water polo………..

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:34 pm

Real Scootter — “Every time I hit refresh a message comes on at tha bottom of the page saying”Internet Explorer has modified this page to prevent cross-cite scripting”. Anyone please!!!”

It’s most likely a script embedded in the banner ad at the top of your page. Sometimes I get Stack Overflow errors on the AJC’s home page when one of those ugly, graphics-heavy monsters comes lumbering onto my screen.

Erwin's cat

October 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

ByteMe – BTW, the Obama campaign celebrated their 10 millionth contributor yesterday. 10 million individual contributors to the campaign. Think about how many votes that will turn into compared to Romney’s huge donors only strategy

foreigners can’t vote silly :D

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:36 pm

WASHINGTON — Two Republicans in tight Senate races went a long way to distance themselves from GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney Wednesday — all the way back to their childhoods.

Sens. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.) both disparaged Romney’s recently revealed opinions that he wasn’t worried about 47 percent of Americans because they don’t pay federal income taxes and would only support President Barack Obama.

Brown is challenged by former consumer advocate Elizabeth Warren, who has been running as a champion of the middle class. Heller is facing Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley in a state that’s been among the hardest hit by the Great Recession and most dependent on federal aid.

In an effort to prove they are not like the wealthy Romney and far more understanding of people suffering misfortune, both pointed to hardscrabble upbringings.

“I think that people who are in those situations are not there by choice. They want to work,” Brown told reporters. “My mom and dad were married and divorced four times each. [I] lived in 17 houses by the time I was 18.

“My mom did get assistance, and it’s something I remember very clearly,” Brown said, linking his trip down memory lane to his current service. “That’s why I’ve been fighting for LIHEAP [Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program], and food stamps, and unemployment benefits for people to give them that helping hand that they need.”

BTW, is Brown still a RINO?

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm

Rightwing Troll

If I were not laughing so hard, I’d have to throw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag on you for your 5:12 post. You led with the helmet, grabbed the facemask, and horse collar tackled with that one. I’d hate to know how you really felt. :)

—————-

USMC

He is merely following the Party’s Marching orders passed down to him from the Party’s Political Operatives.

The only way you would know of such a thing is if you received and responded to the same marching orders. Ao, if you know he’s answering to marching orders, why are you trying to pretend to be a Conservative here?

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

Thanks Kam and Fred! Well maybe I shouldn’t thank you Fred.You went waaaay over my head!
I have no idea what EI 9 is.lol

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

She does water polo………..

Thank god you didn’t say “synchronized swimming.”

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

Now they all want to be like me. I was RINO when RINO wasn’t cool.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

So do we do it Cheap and Slow, or Expensive and Fast? What are your thoughts?

Well, being a carpenter, the saying is “measure twice, cut once.”

I’m willing to pay for it and would consider it money well spent if only it would quit the damned whining about those very issue you cited — voting, jobs market and fed benefits — but it won’t. Some people just need to bitch about something.

So I say spend the money and take the time to get it right the first time, ’cause god knows I hate to pay for something multiple times.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm

BIG DADDY

Who’s bright idea was this 100 posts per page thingie? I don’t like it. I don’t like that new layout on the home page either…

Erwin's cat

October 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

sorry (sorta) for the drive by…on the road again

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

No, kayaker. You are NOT reading fine. And your insistence otherwise compounds your problem.

When did I allege that any conservatives “have ditched our candidate”? I did write that “Given the right opening, they seem quite ready to bury him and move on,” but I never claimed they had already done so.

I think you’ve just gone on my “do not reply to” list.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:41 pm

Even the nasty George “Macaca” Allen is jumping off the USS Mittitanic…

In addition to Lingle, former Virginia Sen. George Allen, running against former Gov. Tim Kaine in a bid to return to the Senate, also distanced himself from Romney’s remarks in a debate Thursday, saying that he has “his own point of view” on the matter, and that Americans “don’t look at themselves as victims.”

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:41 pm

tell me why I should vote for Romney

Cause he will bomb Iran and help the Jews!

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

Josef, the 100-posts-per-page decision is mine, and can be changed if we get a consensus of users against it.

Home-page design, on the other hand, is a decision made above my pay grade.

A Simple Man

October 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

Fred

Obama is the President. He should be the one touting the great things he’s done. Romney is not. He should be saying what he will do. Neither side is following the script. Wonder why??

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

I hate to ask this but can you tell me how to turn off copatability mode?

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

Oops. i left out the person referenced in my last…

‘I am not a rubber stamp for the national party and I am not responsible for the statements of Mitt Romney,’ Linda Lingle, GOP Senate candidate from Hawaii said in an email. ‘With that said, I do not agree with his characterization of all individuals who are receiving government assistance, as I know many of them are driven, hard-working individuals who are actively working to better the situation of their ‘ohana. It is not fair to place these individuals into any one category. The people of Hawaii know I don’t believe in labels and I know they don’t either.’

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

“Internet Explorer”

That would be your answer.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:44 pm

REAL SCOOTER

He got a time line on that? Bibi and Barak do…it’s right there in black, white and red! :-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

Josef, the 100-posts-per-page decision is mine, and can be changed if we get a consensus of users against it.

NO!

I hated the 50 per page thingie, especially if it has an embed video.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

K’Chak — “So I say spend the money and take the time to get it right the first time, ’cause god knows I hate to pay for something multiple times.”

That’s pretty much how I feel about it. get it done right the first time and take the time to ensure that we can get those cards into every actual citizen’s hands by the go-live date. And that’s not something that can be done in weeks or months, like the Republicans seem to think.

They’re doing it fast (weeks or months). They’re doing it cheaply (not spending much or any money on it). Ergo, their solutions won’t be any good. QED.

Krystal'sBalls

October 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

@East Cobb

I think a Romney and (big bucks) defeat could most certainly give teeth to an effort to go after CU.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm

Scootter — “I hate to ask this but can you tell me how to turn off copatability mode?”

Depending on your browser, there might be a little button to the immediate right of your URL window (the place where the long web address appears) that looks like a sheet of paper torn into two halves.

If you have such a button, click it.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm

Rightwing Troll

If I were not laughing so hard, I’d have to throw an unsportsmanlike conduct flag on you for your 5:12 post. You led with the helmet, grabbed the facemask, and horse collar tackled with that one. I’d hate to know how you really felt. :)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Really? And here I thought it was a three pointer that hit nothing but net………

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

“Internet Explorer”

Internet Exploder

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

“100-posts-per-page”

Not that it counts for much…but me likee.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

JAY
Thanks for the answer…two reasons I don’t like it…it makes it hard to go scrolling up and down and I kinda like that 50 break…it makes it easier to step back for a few minutes, say, and be able to catch up…it’s easier, for me anyway, to remember something say, from p 8 and then go back and find it out of 50 than out of 100. On the other hand, when coming in like downstairs where I really AM interested in what folks had to say, the 100 works better…

bman

October 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Sorry AG .. .. Didn’t know you were around !

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:48 pm

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

Thanks Kam and Fred! Well maybe I shouldn’t thank you Fred.You went waaaay over my head!
I have no idea what EI 9 is.lol
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually that was IE9 not EI 9. That stands for Internet Explorer version 9, the latest one.

I hate to do this but since you lacked even that most basic of computer knowledge skills I’m forced to.

Stand up and back SLOWLY away from your computer with your hands up. I’ve programmed it to self destruct in 15 seconds

14

13………

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
5:49 pm

Cause he will bomb Iran and help the Jews!

Including the fake Jews?

Doggone/GA

October 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

“Josef, the 100-posts-per-page decision is mine, and can be changed if we get a consensus of users against it”

I prefer it to the 50 per page format

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

Well, being a carpenter, the saying is “measure twice, cut once.”

Well that don’t work. I mean I cut this thing twice and it’s STILL too short…….

josef

October 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

K’CHAK

I’ll have to agree with you on it working for FNM…

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

Funny to see. 10 years ago IE was 85% of the browser market…now 16%. Hmmmm…

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

IE…the Mitt of internet browsers.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

Real Scootter, assuming you are using IE. There is a tools menu and under that drop-down list there are option to turn on/off compatibility view and if on the what the setting would be. I have IE 8 and the tools menu was over near the upper right.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

Kamchak

Re ID cards… I’d suggest a careful study of South Africa over the next year or so to see how it would work.

http://www.southafrica.info/services/government/smart-id-081512.htm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

Actually that was IE9 not EI 9. That stands for Internet Explorer version 9, the latest one.

IE 10 will be out soon, but it will require an upgrade to Windows 8.

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
5:53 pm

Sorry AG .. .. Didn’t know you were around !

That’s okay, nobody expects the Spanish Inquis….uh, Aquagirl. That’s what secret identities are for.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm

Well so far I think it’s me josef and dog against Kam and and the Cowboy. Not a clear majority but it’s a start. I liked 50 as well, but I see why Kam likes 100. With his slow ass download speed he gets double the posts per page for the same wait.

I can put up with 100 to help a brother out Kam, but I still don’t like it as much.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 2nd, 2012
5:55 pm

Well, you know it’s a bad day for us Republicans when in the a.m. you learn that a court has scotched the voter ID law in PA and in the p.m. you learn that Romney’s big money people are ready to throw him to the wolves. I’m just glad my Mama and Pappy never lived long enough to see this. Then the Pelousy woman shows up on TV today saying that George W. and his pals were trying to keep the economy crashing a secret till after the election when one Friday Bernanke calls and says there won’t be a economy on Monday if the House and Senate don’t act to bail out the big boys over the weekend.

#1 Foxy Lady ain’t said much yet but I hear she’s warming up to issue us all a invite on November 7. Me, I’m getting in a little practice by sucking my cheeks in and out. The ones on my face at least. As for Romney, all I can say is, This sucker could go down.

Have a good night everybody.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

K’Chak — “IE 10 will be out soon, but it will require an upgrade to Windows 8.”

That particular IE stands for Internet Exploiter, since it’s going to cost you money in order to upgrade.

Moderate Line

October 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

Brosephus™
October 2nd, 2012
3:45 pm

Well, considering most of Mitt’s financial backers are all well-to-do businessmen, they know the foolishness of throwing good money after bad investments.

Just sayin’
+++++
Interesting considering that Obama has raised $432,197,459 to Romney’s $279,343,000. Of that $432+ million $272,868,651 is from large individual contributions which is almost as much as Romney’s total.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

Well that don’t work. I mean I cut this thing twice and it’s STILL too short…….

You’re doing it wrong, Fred.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

Fred @ 5:46

I’d agree with your assessment. However, hitting someone with the brutal truth like that highly resembles unsportsmanlike conduct. There is the exception to the rule though, and that would be you. I don’t think there are enough flags in production to throw a flag every time you rough the passer or kicker. :)

bman

October 2nd, 2012
5:56 pm

“Voters say the presidential debates will be important in deciding whom to vote for in this year’s election, according to a new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll released

The poll found that voters say the importance of this year’s debate is greater than it was in 2004 or 2000.”

Other than trying to make sauce for pasta with goat cheese, I haven’t been wrong in a year.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
5:57 pm

He got a time line on that

Yes josef but it is on his Etch-a-Skethch and I ain’t privy to it cause I’m on a need to know basis only! :grin:

jewcowboy

October 2nd, 2012
5:57 pm

100 posts work better for a mobile devices, as you don’t have to click so many different links. And mobile is the future, baby.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

R. Convert — “Bernanke calls and says there won’t be a economy on Monday”

OMGWTFLOLBBQ :D

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
5:58 pm

Including the fake Jews?

Damn straight! We need all the help we can get!

Cuz jonix and the Zionist banking cabal sure ain’t strokin’ us any fat checks!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
5:59 pm

Well that don’t work. I mean I cut this thing twice and it’s STILL too short…….

Okay, I know I am late but I think I know a rabbi who used this line. :D

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:00 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
6:02 pm

josef, Fred

For some reason going to the next page with an embed video seemed to glitch more often than refreshing the same page with the same video, and it only happens with this aircard, and not Xfinity or Uverse.

I say seemed, ’cause I now have 4G service, where I had 2G before.

But I don’t know if this 4G is permanent or a short lived dream.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
6:02 pm

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

Thanks! I don’t anything about EI 8 or 9 but will try that before I try Kam’s advice and switch to google chrome!

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
6:02 pm

I use Firefox 15.0.1.

Free.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:02 pm

GOOD FIGHT

:-)

ZamVet

Gotta be a real Jew to get in that line!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
6:03 pm

Jay, you have got to make this your next blog:

Without any hint of irony, Rumsfeld said last night on Fox News that he was amazed that she [Ambassador Rice] could be so wrong, adding, that “has got to be embarrassing”:

RUMSFELD: I watched the presentation, and I thought it was amazing that someone in her position would go on with that degree of certainty, that fast and that authoritatively and be that wrong.

Someone dial 911, I can’t stop laughing.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

October 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm

Other than trying to make sauce for pasta with goat cheese, I haven’t been wrong in a year.

What did you do wrong? You ever check out USinUK’s recipe blog?

As to the debates you may be right. I ran into another independent buddy I haven’t seen in a long time. He hasn’t decided yet and said the debates would be important to him.

I don’t know WHY Obama is debating. Doesn’t the conventional election wisdom state that the incumbent NEVER debates unless he is way behind as he has nothing to gain and everything to lose?

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:08 pm

Okay, I know I am late but I think I know a rabbi who used this line. :D

I didn’t know you were Jewish Keep. Your bris must have been monumental……..

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:10 pm

Where the hell be’s them wimmins? They should been home 30 minutes ago. Is traffic bad on the connector north? Oh wait, how would any of YOU folks know. Like me you are HOME…….. or still at work.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
6:11 pm

Be prepared everyone.

After he decimates the teleprompter boy on Wednesday night, Mitt is gonna launch his October surprise!

George, Dick and Donnie are gonna be brought out of mothballs and go on the stump for the Mittster!

That is sure to bring in the needed independents!

Game, set and match, you Uppity Kenyan Muslim fans!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_wm17FnMmE

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm

Interesting considering that Obama has raised $432,197,459 to Romney’s $279,343,000. Of that $432+ million $272,868,651 is from large individual contributions which is almost as much as Romney’s total.

Also interesting that Obama is getting close to 10 million donations too. Seems that the big money people are simply hedging their bets between the two.

Why not mention the fact that Obama’s small individual donation amount is amost 37% of his total contributions vs Romney’s small individual donation amount accounting for almost 17% of his campaign contributions. Seems like general, small money America has a 2-1 preference when it comes to making donations.

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
6:16 pm

Don’t think the polls are skewed.
It’s Mitt that’s skewed.

That’s the problem.

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
6:17 pm

JamVet

______

October surprise.

I thought that was a special cake served on Halloween.

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
6:17 pm

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
6:02 pm

Do you mind telling me how to get that getalife? Kam mentioned that also.Sorry to be so much trouble

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:17 pm

Bro

I mentioned that last night. While it is obvious that both sides are raising money from the “powers that be”, the small donations are possibly much more revealing.

Is Obama resonating with the middle and lower middle classes much more than Romney?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

AmVet, wait you mean Obama is not using a teleprompter….my god how will he talk. I mean I know Elmer Fudd could beat him in this election (if its in this blog, it must be true right?) but no teleprompter……wow that is dangerous :lol:

Fred, I am not Jewish but I know one that lives on the plantation (they are on plantations right….voting for the dems? :D )

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

Real Scooter

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

Follow the directions and you will be on your way……….

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
6:20 pm

“RYAN CAUGHT ON TAPE: 30% OF AMERICANS WANT WELFARE” Aol.

Which is it 30% or 47%?

That is the gop focusing on jobs and the economy.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
6:22 pm

100 posts per page is fine. Would not object to a change to 93 however.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:22 pm

Fred, I am not Jewish but I know one that lives on the plantation

Ah so it wasn’t YOU who was cut twice. Probably would have been nice for you to have had an excuse though……….

:mrgreen:

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm

Thanks!!!
Never mind getalife TBS gave me the link!

Thulsa Doom

October 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

Respect Saban. Do it now!

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:24 pm

Real Scootter: Make sure you check automatic updates on your firefox download…….

Joe Hussein Mama

October 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Doom — “Respect Saban. Do it now!”

Saban needs to bring me a sammich first.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Real Scooter,

Both’s link will get the download and it works pretty much like IE but faster.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

Bro/Josef

Romney and Ryan remind me of these guys :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjkdynBFHuQ

F. Sinkwich

October 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

““This isn’t just a New York trend,” this person said. “It’s beginning to occur all over the place.””

This person!

Bwaahahahahahahaha

Psssst, Jay, some person told me that O’bozo is a euro-socialist Marxist bent on destroying America. How ’bouts a blog on that?

Oh, have you finished your “Obama Won The Debate Hands Down” blog yet?

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

Thulsa Doom

October 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm

Respect Saban. Do it now!
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Spawn of Satan. You are on a Highway to Hell. BOTH of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMfh4WQuGc8

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm

Psssst, Jay, some person told me that O’bozo is a euro-socialist Marxist bent on destroying America. How ’bouts a blog on that?

____________________________

Sink has been talking to himself again………

Nothing new

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm

They BOTH: Is Obama resonating with the middle and lower middle classes much more than Romney?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php

“Barack Obama (D)

Raised $432,197,459
Small Indiv Contrib. $162,976,325

Mitt Romney (R)

Raised $279,343,000
Small Indiv. Contrib. $46,759,889″

I can only go by what’s reported and disclosed, but I’d have to say that it appears that Obama is resonating much better than Romney when it comes to contributions. Maybe it’s because Obama’s donors are concerned that he might not win. Or, it could be that Romney’s donors are short on cash after taking care of their charitable contributions. :)

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm

OSCAR

:-)
**************

Split the difference and compromise on 75? :-)

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

F. Sinkwich

October 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm

““This isn’t just a New York trend,” this person said. “It’s beginning to occur all over the place.””

This person!

Bwaahahahahahahaha

Psssst, Jay, some person told me that O’bozo is a euro-socialist Marxist bent on destroying America. How ’bouts a blog on that?

Oh, have you finished your “Obama Won The Debate Hands Down” blog yet?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hey Stinkie. Welcome to the party.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

Fred, I may be small but I make up for it with a hair trigger. :D

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

mitt will say our President wants socialism like Europe and our President will say no we need to work on jobs.

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

So, we are to believe that “all” of those running for some federal elected office, either in the Senate or the House are shunning Romney and that his GOP support base is deserting him. Also, we are to believe that all his funding is going up in smoke and that he doesn’t have a chance. That’s what Bookman would have us believe, along with all of the main stream media liberals that spout out all of this poll BS. Trustworthy information? Not on your life. They are so far in the tank for Bozo that they can’t see above the bullsh*t and wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the arse. If you want us to believe that any GOP candidate is not of the firm belief that Romney would make a better president than this social experiment that you liberals have elected, you are sadly mistaken. This clown is going to lose. Count on it.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

Bro

It might not be the reason, but it begs the question imo.

Obama collects a lot of dough from some of those he likes to raise hell about, however when you look into the donation breakdown, it seems to show a broader picture……

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:24 pm

Thanks Fred,I will do that in the morning cause I ain’t gona try it while I’m drinking! :lol:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm

mitt will say our President wants socialism like Europe and our President will say no we need to work on jobs.

F*ck this jobs crap. For thirty years it’s been about jobs.

What we need are careers.

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm

I am probably a little late with this, but I grew up in Oregon. The Portland Beavers is/was the name of our baseball team. Must confess I never thought about the implications until I read it here.. Yeah, well, I did go to convent school. :)

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm

Common Sense…

Thass too funny!

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:33 pm

kayaker

So you basically asked Jay to put up or shut up…. You are shown numerous quotes to back up what you basically implied wasn’t true and you fly off the handle?

Really?

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
6:35 pm

NoCom

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I’ve said that Romney, with this campaign, reminds me of this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNOvNrZ6S_E&feature=related

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
6:36 pm

Drudge exactly like porn: wait frantically for gratification, get it, immediately close tab, hate yourself and vow never to do it again.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
6:36 pm

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm

Thanks dude! You are ok,no matter what the cons say about you. :grin:

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

K’CHAK

@ 6:32

AMEN!

G’MARE

Are you a red head though? :-)

F. Sinkwich

October 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

Pssssst, Jay, “some person” just said that Romney beat up some hippie 50 years ago.

Oooops, old news. Nevermind.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm

So, we are to believe that “all” of those running for some federal elected office, either in the Senate or the House are shunning Romney

I’m not certain what “we” believe, but you can choose to ignore at least five Republicans running for high office who have that I provided direct evidence thereof.

And the dozens in GOP power who won’t say boo about Mr Gaffe a Minute’s foot in mouth disease.

The best quote on his matter?

We have a long line of people who are running from Romney as if the Olympics are still on.

Would that be the same Olympics that Mitt the Mouth embarrassed the United States and himself by going to London and insulting the British in advance of the Olympics?

LOL!

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:40 pm

BROSEPHUS

I had forgotten that Isuzu guy…one of the best ad campaigns ev-uh!

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
6:40 pm

Shalom; jonix

Gotta be a real Jew to get in that line!

No, you don’t!

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:41 pm

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
6:31 pm

So, we are to believe that “all” of those running for some federal elected office, either in the Senate or the House are shunning Romney and that his GOP support base is deserting him. Also, we are to believe that all his funding is going up in smoke and that he doesn’t have a chance. That’s what Bookman would have us believe, along with all of the main stream media liberals that spout out all of this poll BS. Trustworthy information? Not on your life. They are so far in the tank for Bozo that they can’t see above the bullsh*t and wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the arse. If you want us to believe that any GOP candidate is not of the firm belief that Romney would make a better president than this social experiment that you liberals have elected, you are sadly mistaken. This clown is going to lose. Count on it.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Dude, you are SO delusional and so lost in the talk radio mantra that is actually kind of scary. That post above was quite irrational.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:42 pm

Jam

Guess it is a given that kayaker was unable to come to grips with the quotes you posted for him

;-)

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
6:44 pm

Suck,6:33,

No, I’m not really that upset with Bookman. He’s just doing his job. I am mostly upset with those who report what is important in an election. The truth. And we haven’t seen much of it this time around. The media is doing this country a disservice that it has never done prior to this election to this degree. Their bias and refusal to report events such as Fast and Furious, the failed stimulus, the Bengazi debacle, the real facts about Bozocare….. all of this has a profound effect on the future of American citizens. Why should it take a Congressional committee to drag out the truth from Clinton about Bengazi? Why does this president cover up not only this but convey an executive order to hide all of the facts about Fast and Furious? And the media, including Bookman and most of the liberal posters on this blog just give it a pass. Oh, no problem. Well, it is a problem. And if you can’t see it as a problem, not matter who is running or who wins, you are part of the slide of this great country into something none of us want.

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
6:45 pm

Kayaker:
“If you want us to believe that any GOP candidate is not of the firm belief that Romney would make a better president than this social experiment that you liberals have elected, you are sadly mistaken. ”

Nobody is claiming that down-ticket office seekers don’t believe that Romney is the better of the two choices. That why they call themselves “Republicans.” It’s just that many of them are beginning to recognize a loser when they see one.

F. Sinkwich

October 2nd, 2012
6:45 pm

Hey, Jay, I’m looking forward to your “Mormonism is an Evil Cult” blog next week.

Any previews?

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

Mr B

Shalom! Heh, heh…

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

Kayaker

Hang tough until you “see the white of their eyes” or the “Koran in their hand”………

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm

DAILY CALLER PLANS EXCLUSIVE RELEASE OF ‘UNSCRUBBED’ OBAMA VIDEO… DEVELOPING…

Except that it’s been on youtube since 2007.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
6:47 pm

Of course not, BOTH.

That is why, when caught, he plays his fifth grade all or nothing at all move the goal posts game.

You’ve heard of not thinking before one speaks?

Our cons here have taken that malady to a whole new level.

Not thinking while taking minutes to make a post!

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:48 pm

SINKWICH

That’s not Jay’s style…matter of fact, he’s called out those, left and right, taking swipes at Romney’s religion…

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
6:44 pm

Suck,6:33,

No, I’m not really that upset with Bookman. He’s just doing his job. I am mostly upset with those who report what is important in an election. The truth. And we haven’t seen much of it this time around. The media is doing this country a disservice that it has never done prior to this election to this degree. Their bias and refusal to report events such as Fast and Furious, the failed stimulus, the Bengazi debacle, the real facts about Bozocare….. all of this has a profound effect on the future of American citizens. Why should it take a Congressional committee to drag out the truth from Clinton about Bengazi? Why does this president cover up not only this but convey an executive order to hide all of the facts about Fast and Furious? And the media, including Bookman and most of the liberal posters on this blog just give it a pass. Oh, no problem. Well, it is a problem. And if you can’t see it as a problem, not matter who is running or who wins, you are part of the slide of this great country into something none of us want.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

But none of that IS truth. It’s the delusional crap spewed forth from FOX “News” and talk radio liars. Get a grip man.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm

And watch for an exponential rise in the number of posts in the next five weeks that blame the evil liberal media for Mitt’s demise.

(Mitt being in no way responsible for being a no talent assclown of a candidate or a principled human being.)

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

They BOTH

It really gets interesting when you start breaking down demographics and amounts…

Obama
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/donordemCID.php?cycle=2012&id=N00009638

Ronmey
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/donordemCID.php?cycle=2012&id=N00000286

With the exception of female donations of more than $5000, there’s a clear distinction on the number of contributors that gave less than $2500 to each candidate vs those who gave more.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm

Is Mr_B the poster formerly known as Bruno?

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm

kayaker

I am not here to defend the media, including Fox news, talk radio, Drudge, the blaze, World Net Daily and of course the “librul media”, but just because something isn’t reported in a manner that meets your narrative doesn’t mean it was under reported or falsely reported.

Do you ever think that there are times when your narrative and ideology on things just doesn’t match the facts?

No way in hell that everything that goes down in life is going to neatly fit any given individual’s view point. And that goes for me and everyone else on this blog or elsewhere

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

josef: (To the tune of “when Johnny Comes Marching Home.)

“When I was eight days old, my boys hurrah, hurrah….


But all he took was a little bit of the top!”

Welcome to the Occupation

October 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

The Romney campaign is experiencing what some officials believe could be the beginning of a mass exodus of big money donors diverting their cash away …

What? They’re not even waiting until the first 20 min of the debate to pull the plug? How rude!

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

t the difference and compromise on 75?

________

75 would be fine.

I can compromise. I’m not a conservative.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

FRED

Nope…Mr. B and Bruno ain’t even related!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm

So Drudge/Hannity/Tucker all have the same video with the same 9 pm ET embargo the night before the debate? Who’s calling the shots?

Heh, heh, heh.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm

Alrighty then……..

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:54 pm

josef

Sinkwich knows exactly what you just posted, but desperate times call for desperate measures……….

He has been nervous but is getting more so as the election gets closer.

Not over yet, but certainly Romney needs a momentum changer…….. and fast

Even Sink knows that

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
6:55 pm

Fred: Not on a bet, although I respect Bruno as one of the few conservative posters here with whom one could, at times, carry on a rational discussion. out politics are polar opposites. I am a (somewhat) reformed socialist/communist and and I don’t feel the need to call myself a “progressive” like that was something other than a liberal.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
6:56 pm

Bro

Thanks for the information. I haven’t been to that website in several months. Always found it to be very informative.

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
6:57 pm

Sorry, Fred. Should read “Our politics.” Washed my hands this morning, and now I can’t do a thing with ‘em.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

Well Mr_B I don’t recall seeing you before. I’m a rude asshat independent who will NEVER reform lol.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

I forgot to say Hi. Mr_B.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
6:58 pm

Mr B….

What’s the difference between a Bris and a Get*?
With a Get, you’re rid of the whole schmuck.

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
6:59 pm

josef: “Nope…Mr. B and Bruno ain’t even related!”

Hell, we might be. I know I am related to people I like a lot less.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
6:59 pm

Mr_B: It’s funnyb how the eyes and brain see what they want sometimes. I “saw” Our politics not out. I had to go back to see what you were talking about :lol:

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:00 pm

FRED

Mr. B is one of those slackards sucking at the public teat… a teacher!

F. Sinkwich

October 2nd, 2012
7:02 pm

Jim Lehrer, lib ilk PBS commentator, is moderating the first debate. Of course only lib ilks are moderating the debates this cycle so I apologize for pointing out the obvious. However, “some person” has leaked to me what Jim’s first questions to the candidates will be:

To Romney:

Governor, some people have maintained that you only beat your wife, Ann, only every other month or so, but others insist it’s a weekly occurrence. Who is right?

To Obama:

Mr. President, you’ve done an incredible job over the past four years dealing with republican obstructionists who criticize your every effort to make America more fair. As difficult as it is to take any time off from your oppressive schedule as president, when you go out for ice cream, what’s your favorite flavor?

You heard it here first…

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Fred: Been around for a little over a year, I think. Sometime just lurking, if I don’t find the conversation too interesting. I tend to stay away from issues related to Atlanta, because I tend to stay away from Atlanta if at all possible.

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm

George Will had an interesting post today that might appeal even to the liberal sycophants on this blog. He wonders why, even with the abysmal record that this president has over the last four years, why anyone would vote for him. He has reasons that seem worth considering. First, this guy is our first black president if you throw Slick Willy out. Liberals suffer from a certain amount of white guilt that doesn’t seem to have much of an effect on people who are good at thinking. Why should we we abandon this social experiment (my words)? Why not give him a second chance. Even though he has been a disaster in foreign policy, domestic spending, domestic policy and most everything else he has tried, maybe if we just give him four more years, he can pull it off and guess how much better that would make us feel about ourselves. After all, he is black, a minority, someone who we can relate to. Forget about the country, forget about where we are in this mindless non-existent “recovery”…… let’s just forget about all of that and make ourselves feel a little better about “someone special”. Except for that idiot in Cleveland that is braying on about her Obama phone, there are a lot of pretty smart liberals out there. Why in the hell is this clown so special to you? He is ripping this country apart at the seams and you don’t seem a bit concerned. The media gives him a pass on virtually everything and you are silent. No one says anything except some media contrived story about what a jerk Romney is. And you let it go. Maybe I’ll take back the comment about smart liberals.

St Simons

October 2nd, 2012
7:04 pm

really? a coordinated ‘release’ of a whitey tape by collective
wingnuttia, on the night before the debate? the one that’s been
out on youtube for 5 years now? that’s IT?

a window into how today’s fetid con mind works.

and what they have left to offer ‘merka.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:04 pm

Sink

Guess it is a little late to tell you………”Never let them see you sweat”………

You are drenched dude. Have bitten your nails down to the wick and are pacing the floor like a mad man……………

If you do not get help at Charter, please get help

lynnie gal

October 2nd, 2012
7:04 pm

Nobody wants to financially back a loser–and even Sheldon Adelson won’t open his checkbook anymore.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

Romney and technology are not a good match. Kinda like this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj5dbEUnEBg

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm

Josef, not a redhead anymore, but just because there’s snow on the roof…. :)

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

Wow. Kay has officially lost it. RIP Kayaker71’s brain……….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z314pQhLb2Q&feature=related

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm

Hey josef! Did you guys up around hotlanta get all the boxes of free Obamaphones to pass out to all the illegal Hispanic kiddies yet? Ours came in yesterday! 4G and everything!

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

They BOTH

That’s one of my bookmarked websites.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

George “Take It Somewhere Else, Buster” Will?

Too funny!

td

October 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

It appears that the October surprise is going to be released tonight on Hannity. Obama showing the country his true community organizing self.

“THE ACCENT… THE ANGER… THE ACCUSATIONS… THE SERMON…
THE SHOUT OUT TO REV. WRIGHT, WHO IS IN AUDIENCE…
‘My pastor, the guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to my wife complain about me. He’s a friend and a great leader. Not just in Chicago, but all across the country’..
FOXNEWS 9 PM ET…
‘We don’t need to build more highways out in the suburbs. We should be investing in minority-owned businesses, in our neighborhoods’… ”

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm

It appears that the October surprise is going to be released tonight on Hannity. Obama showing the country his true community organizing self.

It appears that video has been on youtube since 2007.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:11 pm

td

I hope it is better than the “bombshell” that AHEM predicted was going to be on Univision the other night. I asked him about it and he would reply…………………….

By the way, what is little Dick….. Morris telling you about the election?

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

Why in the hell is this clown so special to you? He is ripping this country apart at the seams and you don’t seem a bit concerned.

That’s because we don’t inhabit your reality. Thank goodness.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

Yeah Kam but that’s NEW to the Faux News sheep……….

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm

I’ve always heard there is no problem with snow on the roof as long as there is still a fire in the furnace. Jus sayin……. :smile:

kayaker 71

October 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm

“Vote like your lady parts depend on it”…………. a Bozo campaign message that all of us can relate to.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:14 pm

Real Scootter: Just because you are to old to cut the mustard doesn’t mean you can’t lick the jar.

Jus’ sayin’

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 2nd, 2012
7:14 pm

A few posters on here remind me of this guy :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipTwjwrQYQ

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm

td

Maybe the night before the 2nd debate, Fox can run a few Rev Wright tapes…….

What do you think?

It worked so well in 08…………… well, never mind

:-)

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

Damn. I’m sitting hear listening to this live version of one of the best songs Elston ever did. I would LOVE to Jam with that dude. Although he doesn’t know it, he was one of my main piano teachers……..

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

Wow. This tape thing … saying it reeks of desperation doesn’t begin to do this mass insanity justice.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:16 pm

Fred

There’s a serious amount of mocking going on right now in the twitterverse about said video.

So much so that a new twitter account has been set up.

https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/?q=%23othernewsfrom2007&src=hash

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm

Mr B

:-)

GMARE

So I’ve heard…so I’ve heard! :-)

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

“Vote like your lady parts depend on it”…………. a Bozo campaign message that all of us can relate to.

Kayaker busts out of the intersex closet.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

Kamchak

The money shot from Will, is his closing passage…

Perhaps a pleasant paradox defines this political season: That Obama is African American may be important, but in a way quite unlike that darkly suggested by, for example, MSNBC’s excitable boys and girls who, with their (at most) one-track minds and exquisitely sensitive olfactory receptors, sniff racism in any criticism of their pin-up. Instead, the nation, which is generally reluctant to declare a president a failure — thereby admitting that it made a mistake in choosing him — seems especially reluctant to give up on the first African American president. If so, the 2012 election speaks well of the nation’s heart, if not its head.

In other words, if Obama wins, it’s because White people don’t want to feel guilt for giving up on the Knee Grow, lest they be called racist. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the alternative that was put forth by the GOP was substandard to the current Marxist, Socialist, anti-colonial, spend happy, Muslim that’s currently in office. :lol:

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm

Common Sense isn’t Very Common: You owe me about 19 seconds of life. I don’t know how you can pay it back but that’s howe long I spent clicking, seeing what I clicked and getting back to reality. Here is some REAL “Winning.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od9FkRvvnrg

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm

Good evening, G mare. Don’t sweat the operation thing too much, most of those guys are REALLY
good.

Anyway, keep us posted as to dates: Prayers work well too.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm

Bro

Romney still has a chance, yet the right already have a list of excuses 5 miles long

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Real scooter, I figured someone here would remember the last part of that line. :)

As for the lady parts, yes we ARE voting as if our lady parts depend on it, because they do, & Romney et al want to take away our rights to our own bodies. Ryan has been quoted as saying he is against birth control, so I have to wonder how come he only has 3 children?????

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:21 pm

Obama isn’t ripping the country apart at the seams, but a lot of his detractors are doing their damnedest to do what they can…seriously…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the alternative that was put forth by the GOP was substandard to the current Marxist, Socialist, anti-colonial, spend happy, Muslim that’s currently in office.

Abso-freakin’-lutely!

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm

A nurse applied ice packs to Nash’s groin to reduce pain and swelling. The problem arose when the medical staff allowed the ice packs to remain in place for about 19 hours.

Jones described it as “non-stop ice replacement.”

“Any doctor who is monitoring the care of their patient is not going to allow someone to have constant treatment with ice … for more than 2-3 hours,” Jones said.

Gangrene set it in within a few weeks, causing doctors to remove a five-inch section of Nash’s penis – a procedure for which he continues to receive medical care, Jones said. Nash will need reconstructive surgery that will allow him to urinate, Jones said. Associated Press

Well, good thing the VA done this in KY, not here. Else JamVet would be another one of our female bloggers.

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

Saying these people have gone off the deep end is accurate only if the deep end in question is the Marianas Trench.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

TBS: Thanks. I had forgotten that song. I can’t remember the last time I listened to that CD. (yep I have it on CD lol, got it in Germany in ‘87). As a matter of fact I think I will put the CD on and listen to it now. And for some reason it makes me want to hear so Tull as well. Either Thick as a Brick or Passion Play.

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

Thanks, Mister_B. I’m counting on prayers from all y’all.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm

GMARE

“…so I have to wonder how come he only has 3 children?????”

Aren’t some things obvious…? She was only able to get him drunk enough three times…

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
7:24 pm

Just because you are to old to cut the mustard doesn’t mean you can’t lick the jar.

That’s what I told my ex-wife and she still traded me in for a newer model. :shock:

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:24 pm

Ryan has been quoted as saying he is against birth control, so I have to wonder how come he only has 3 children?????

Because the postman only knocks once?

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm

LOl I went with this version of Tull. If you click on it tell me with a straight face he isn’t tripping his balls of on some REAL acid lol.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:28 pm

“..causing doctors to remove a five-inch section of Nash’s penis..”

Is he bragging or complaining?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

Huckabee looking like a strong sleeper candidate #othernewsfrom2007

Heh, heh, heh.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:28 pm

“..causing doctors to remove a five-inch section of Nash’s penis..”

Is he bragging or complaining?
++++++++++++++++++

Did you ACTUALLY comment on an RC post?

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

Fred: Got to see Tull on stage in Athens around 1970. I always hated the idea of going to see a concert: music has to listened too, not “watched.” But watching Ian Anderson on stage was absolutely unbelievable!

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

KAM: I don’t tweet so I can’t see that stuff.

td

October 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

“OBAMA DECLARES HOW POOR PEOPLE: ‘Need help with basic skills, how to shop, how to show up for work on time, how to wear the right clothes, how to act appropriately in an office’… ”

And these people need to be voting?

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:32 pm

josef @ 7:21

And that is exactly why a mediocre President is looking better each day to the electorate…………

It is the choice and a percentage of who is backing that choice that will probably keep the majority of voters away……..

If they lose, they only have themselves to blame

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
7:32 pm

good thing the VA done this in KY, not here. Else JamVet would be another one of our female bloggers.

PSA for you menz: ignore the nurse. Remove the icepack from your groin before your bits fall off.

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
7:32 pm

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
7:19 pm

_______

George Will is highly intelligent, articulate and knows a large number of facts, but his problem is he always puts them together and comes to the wrong conclusion.
Intelligent people often do that. (Speaking of Bruno . . . )

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

Ryan has been quoted as saying he is against birth control, so I have to wonder how come he only has 3 children?????

They quit delivering milk years ago? (Even in Wisconsin.)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

fred

Neither do I.

Just copy/paste the whole thing — https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/?q=%23othernewsfrom2007&src=hash — in a new tab and it should come up

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

FRED,

Hope you don’t mind,but is there something I need to unload from my computer before I download firefox?

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

“And these people need to be voting?”

So lay out what the voting criteria should be, Mr Liberty and Justice for all…….

Memory Lane

October 2nd, 2012
7:34 pm

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 2nd, 2012
7:34 pm

Is he bragging or complaining?

Well, I don’t know about you, but if a Dr. removed 5 inches of my Tallywacker I’d have a serious inside gash.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm

The October surprise?

The Romney campaign produces a live Osama bin Laden!!!

Proving that the second Seal 6 gunman on the grassy knoll did NOT get Public Enemy Number One!

(OK, OK. So it’s just some Colombian dude look-a-like…)

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/photos/meet-osama-bin-laden-s-colombian-lookalike-398016.html

Great tunes, guys…

For our modern day McCarthy Party gang…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YymGJKhGgY

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm

“And these people need to be voting?’

Yes, td, they do need to be voting. Are their lives somehow exempt from the impact of political decisions?

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm

td

Not sure if you have heard or read, but we have moved past the white male, land owner thing……………

That might not set well with you, but we are moving on

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
7:36 pm

Bro, interestingly enough to counter Will’s play of hte race card, credible academic estimates suggest Obama lost a net 3 to 5 percent of the national vote in 2008 as a consequence of his race

Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a doctoral candidate in economics at Harvard, is studying how racial animus may have cost Obama votes in 2008. First, Stephens-­Davidowitz ranked areas of the country according to how often people there typed racist search terms into Google. (The areas with the highest rates of racially charged search terms were West Virginia, western Pennsylvania, eastern Ohio, upstate New York, and southern Mississippi.) Then he compared Obama’s voting results in those areas with John Kerry’s four years earlier. So, for instance, in 2004 Kerry received 50 percent of the vote in the media markets of both Denver and Wheeling (which straddles the Ohio–West Virginia border). Based on the Democratic groundswell in 2008, Obama should have received about 57 percent of the popular vote in both regions. But that’s not what happened. In the Denver area, which had one of the nation’s lowest rates of racially charged Google searching, Obama received the predicted 57 percent. But in Wheeling, which had a high rate of racially charged Google searching, Obama’s share of the popular vote was only 48 percent. Of course, Obama also picked up some votes because he is black. But, aggregating his findings nationally, Stephens-Davidowitz has concluded that Obama lost between 3 and 5 percentage points of the popular vote to racism.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/09/fear-of-a-black-president/309064/?single_page=true

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:37 pm

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm

Fred: Got to see Tull on stage in Athens around 1970. I always hated the idea of going to see a concert: music has to listened too, not “watched.” But watching Ian Anderson on stage was absolutely unbelievable!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Oh now as someone who has been to about 6 trillion shows I can not even begin to agree. Music needs to be FELT not listened to. It permeates every pore and leaves you mesmerized. Your whole soul resonates with it. You can’t get that from an album. If you never saw the Grateful; Dead then you never “heard” the Dead.

Concerts today in huge arenas? I agree, why bother………. you need binoculars to see the big screen unless you pay off a scalper or someone at ticket master. And forget about sound.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:37 pm

FRED

I didn’t address it to the Du-k-sha-nee, though. I DO have a reputation to worry about…

td

“And these people need to be voting?”

Yep. It’s called universal adult franchise…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:37 pm

And these people need to be voting?

Well, you set up a “Let’s all get together and listen to Rush Limbaugh on the radio” circle jerk at Kenn. St. and we don’t begrudge you that right.

Fair is fair.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:38 pm

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

FRED,

Hope you don’t mind,but is there something I need to unload from my computer before I download firefox?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nope. As a matter of fact you can “ask” it to import all your crap from Internet Explorer and it will. Make it your default browser when it asks.

td

October 2nd, 2012
7:38 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm

“And these people need to be voting?”

So lay out what the voting criteria should be, Mr Liberty and Justice for all…….

I have always been an elitist when it comes to taking on the serious responsibility of voting. Personally (and I know you libs will not agree) I believe that a person should pass the same test that all legal immigrants have to pass to become citizens before they are allowed to vote.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
7:39 pm

What the???

That reminds me of the George Carlin observation about how it is good that men don’t have boobs. Otherwise we’d just sit around and play with them all day.

Hmmmm, now that I think about it….

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm

Later. I have been summoned.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm

They BOTH

And the excuse makers are helping to blow holes into the hull of the SS Romney.

—————

Oscar

I read that piece last night, as I’m always split between news outlets. I was waiting to see if any of it would make it onto this blog, and I was only disappointed in that it took almost 24 hourse from the time it was posted before it got mentioned. :)

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm

td

Maybe we can narrow it down to KSU, Limbaugh listening groupies…………………..

As for being an “elitist”……. You come across more as being an a$$hole to be frank. But then again, that could be one in the same depending on the topic

td

October 2nd, 2012
7:42 pm

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:35 pm

“And these people need to be voting?’

Yes, td, they do need to be voting. Are their lives somehow exempt from the impact of political decisions?

If you are receiving a means tested entitlement from the government then for you to vote for a government that increases said entitlement by taking money from the producers is the same as being a bank robber.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

td

But don’t worry too much….. I can be an a$$ as well, but the “elitist” thing does come across being a punk, really

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

Surprise, td, I actually don’t think that would be a bad idea, if it was applied to everyone equally.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

td

Qualifications? 18 years old, a citizen and not a convicted felon…

And elitist? You REALLY don’t want to go there with ME…

Right, Brosephus? :-)

Real Scootter

October 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
7:38 pm

Thanks again Fred! And all you other folks that helped also!

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
7:46 pm

The gop “buried the middle class” but now are going to help the middle class.

Yeah, right.

Doggone/GA

October 2nd, 2012
7:47 pm

“Aren’t some things obvious…? She was only able to get him drunk enough three times…”

Or sober enough?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
7:50 pm

If you are receiving a means tested entitlement from the government then for you to vote for a government that increases said entitlement by taking money from the producers is the same as being a bank robber.

So those bailed out bankers on wall street and Bain Capital are just bank robbers?

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:52 pm

DOGGONE

Well, that, too…I hear they serve some STIFF drinks in them bars! :-)

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
7:52 pm

td,

You should be worried about Americans getting jobs.

Mr_B

October 2nd, 2012
7:52 pm

If you are receiving a means tested entitlement from the government then for you to vote for a government that increases said entitlement by taking money from the producers is the same as being a bank robber.

Hardly. I, through my elected representatives have determined, along with my fellow citizens that bank robbery is a felony, punishable by an extended incarceration.

I, through my elected representatives, and along with my fellow citizens have determined that it is in my best interests (and the best interests of the “producers”) to provide some economic assistance to some citizens for various reasons.

We call this “representative democracy.” You should check it out sometime.

td

October 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:45 pm

td

But don’t worry too much….. I can be an a$$ as well, but the “elitist” thing does come across being a punk, really

Elitist is what others have called me when discussing my personal opinion about people having some knowledge about who and what they are voting for before being able to vote. I know there are very few people that feel the same way (on either side) but I think the responsibility of being an informed voter is more important.

Doggone/GA

October 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

“Well, that, too”

And then there’s his fitness level. Not being a man myself, I don’t know the answer to this…but in women it’s possible to be so fit that your bodyfat level is too low for you to menstruate normally. Don’t do that, it’s highly unlikely that you also ovulate normally. Can men affect their sterility by being too fit?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

Real Scootter

I’ve got IE, FireFox, Google Chrome, Safari, and Opera browsers and I find that I use FireFox the most.

You can get different plug-ins and add-ons to customize it to suit your needs.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

Denying ANY citizen not legally precluded their god given right of franchise is flat out anti-American.

But tyrants love it.

Voting is the key to democracy. A word that terrifies you Republicans.

But I understand why you quasi-fascist freaks want to limit suffrage instead of trying to get ALL American citizens involved in having a voice.

(It works against your Lily White Party.)

Long Live Jim Crow!!

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:56 pm

td

I’m sure there are “wealthy elitist”, you are NOT one of them, of all political stripes who would have no problem with you not voting……..

So what is your point?

You are just coming across as a punk

next topic

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:57 pm

Jam

BINGO……………..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
7:57 pm

After previewing the Obama tape, Hannity has had to drink a six pack of 5-Hour Energy’s to get amped about it.

Heh, heh, heh.

td

October 2nd, 2012
7:57 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
7:50 pm

“So those bailed out bankers on wall street and Bain Capital are just bank robbers?”

Now I for one thought those banks were not to big to fail and did not agree with the bailouts, there is a huge difference in bailing out and getting paid back or just taking and taking from the government for nothing in return.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:59 pm

td

I’m sure you are middle class guy with a nice income, but if you think you are informed because you follow Dick Morris, theblaze.com and WND…………………………….

I can only laugh………………..

:-)

But I would never want you not to vote……. If nothing else, it is going to sting a little harder come November because you did vote and work to push your propaganda

:-)

josef

October 2nd, 2012
7:59 pm

td

You’re an elite wannabe…

Doggone…

Never really thought about that, sterility not being at issue in these quarters!

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
8:00 pm

Elitist is what others have called me when discussing my personal opinion about people having some knowledge about who and what they are voting for before being able to vote.

“Elitist” is probably not the most common term they apply.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
8:02 pm

“td

You’re an elite wannabe…”

And a weak “wannabe” at that

td

October 2nd, 2012
8:02 pm

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
7:54 pm

First, we do not live in a democracy.

Second, please show me where in the Constitution it states you have the right to vote for the President? I guess you forgot that we do not directly vote for the President.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:03 pm

“Elitist” is probably not the most common term they apply.

Especially not if you have bragged on these blogs that you scored the highest in the Newterator’s class at KSU.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:04 pm

First, we do not live in a democracy.

Yes, we do.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
8:04 pm

there is a huge difference in bailing out and getting paid back or just taking and taking from the government for nothing in return.

You mean like paying zero taxes…..and getting a lower tax rate for certain “income” vs. others labor income…. nothing in return…..

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

BOTH

“Those who think they’re superior are very annoying to those of us who are.”
—Granny Thomas Jefferson

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Kam

I guess him being the President, Vice President, Treasurer and only member of the KSU – Limbaugh groupie club does put you in somewhat of an “elite” group……………… I guess you could call it that………

:-)

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Yes, we do.

Smartypants Neal Boortz lecture we’ve heard a million times in 3…2…1….

RAMZAD

October 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

God forbid; when the Left Wing Media gets a hold of this story. Big check writers pulling out…? It is part of an Obama conspiracy, negotiated by Newt Gingrich and VP Joe Biden. It is being funded by ABC and the Florida democratic legislature. Republicans- they have been a joke since Abraham Lincoln died.

td

October 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
7:59 pm

td

I’m sure you are middle class guy with a nice income, but if you think you are informed because you follow Dick Morris, theblaze.com and WND…

You really need to add Morning Joe, Hardball, NY Time and Washington post to your list. I unlike most on this blog choose to hear both sides of the debate and make a well informed decision.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
8:07 pm

josef @ 8:06

:-)

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:07 pm

K’CHAK

Somebody actually admitted THAT? Oy to the max!

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
8:08 pm

td,

What do you think those unlimited bribes are for?

nelson

October 2nd, 2012
8:09 pm

. You got most of the story right Jay, as usual, not the whole 9 yards. Mitt’s money men will be putting their check book away if Obama is returned to office, they will freeze their hiring, even going so far as curtailing their personal luxuries like traveling.
They are going to do this because of Prez O’s assertion that he will be taxing the rich[big time]. The sock it to the rich attitude plays well on main street but not at corporate headquarters that keep the expenses in line.
Sooooo the check book is still out for Mitt, it will be snapped shut when the President returns[if he wins reelection.] Mother Nature says, “you can’t mess with the fortune 400.” They do the hiring.

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
8:09 pm

I unlike most on this blog choose to hear both sides of the debate and make a well informed decision.

You owe me a Pepsi and some screen cleaner.

Wilbur

October 2nd, 2012
8:10 pm

Are dems and the media in a coordinated voter suppression effort? It’s not like we don’t know where Jay gets his orders from.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:11 pm

Somebody actually admitted THAT?

Not just “somebody”, but somebody that is here right now being all elitist-y.

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:12 pm

“You owe me a Pepsi and some screen cleaner.”

Originality: 0 points

bman

October 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

Anyone want to guess the tie color each will choose for the debate ?

td

October 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:04 pm

First, we do not live in a democracy.

Yes, we do.

You really need to educate yourself about the style of government you live in. We live in a Representative Republic. If we lived in a democracy then we would vote for or against the people that makes the rules that we live by or we would vote for or against each and every law itself.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

td

I must say, you always bring laughs to the blog………

You may not be the funniest clown on the blog, but if this blog was a circus, you surely would be getting out of the car……….

http://tinyurl.com/9onbcsq

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:14 pm

Yep

The Obama team was trying to spin a terrorist attack failure

How pathetic

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/02/us-usa-libya-intelligence-idUSBRE8911BY20121002

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:15 pm

You really need to educate yourself about the style of government you live in.

Aquagirl called it a 8:06

Get Real

October 2nd, 2012
8:15 pm

Interesting and frustrating, but like most folks have been saying the debates are going to matter for about 20% of the folks that are going to vote; the other 80% have already made up their minds. I do not believe anyone on this blog is “swayable”

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
8:17 pm

Jm

Not sure if you saw td’s post, but Hanitty is going to reveal the Oct surprise tonight

Going to be the game changer

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
8:18 pm

Keep

That’s some interesting research there. I saw echoes of that meme in a story the WaPo did on the Koch Brothers funding campaigns in Arkansas in an attempt to turn their legislature red for the first time since the Civil War.

—————

And elitist? You REALLY don’t want to go there with ME…

Right, Brosephus? :)

Talking about opening a can of worms… :)

—————

Second, please show me where in the Constitution it states you have the right to vote for the President?

That must have been this week’s talking point as there have been a few other posters who have stated the same thing on Jay’s blog this week. I love it when people follow directions to the letter. It makes them look like real soldiers on the front lines to combat the creeping liberalism that’s eating away the fabric of America.

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:19 pm

Tbs

I don’t care about Hannity or touchdowns

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
8:21 pm

That must have been this week’s talking point as there have been a few other posters who have stated the same thing on Jay’s blog this week.

Along with I don’t know why showing a photo ID to vote should be a problem for anyone

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
8:21 pm

Jm

It is going to be the clip that turned the tide

You might want to be there when it runs…………..

That clip that td is talking about is going to impact the Presidential race as much as the Braves game is going to impact it…………..

He is desperate for anything to hang on to………

Pretty funny indeed

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:22 pm

BROSEPHUS

You know what I’m thinking, though! :-)

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
8:22 pm

Aquagirl
October 2nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Yes, we do.

Smartypants Neal Boortz lecture we’ve heard a million times in 3…2…1….

—————

td
October 2nd, 2012
8:13 pm

You really need to educate yourself about the style of government you live in. We live in a Representative Republic. If we lived in a democracy then we would vote for or against the people that makes the rules that we live by or we would vote for or against each and every law itself.

I’m guessing the lecture that was given failed to mention that whole Democratic Republic thingie from civics 101.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 2nd, 2012
8:22 pm

Can somebody please tell me one thing:

What has Jeremiah Wright ever said that was even the slightest bit wrong, excessive, exaggerated?

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
8:22 pm

Brosephus
“real
soldiers on the front lines
to combat the creeping
liberalism that’s eating
away the fabric of America”
……
holey levis batman!

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm

jm,

But it’s a game changer.

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Is Gitmo closed yet?

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Keep

That’s from the monthly report. ;)

————–

josef

Yes, I do!!!! And I’m sitting here laughing my ass off too… :)

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:25 pm

WELCOME

He took the name of the L-rd G-d in vain from the pulpit…is he the first? No. Will he be the last? No. Do I hold him against Obama? Not really, but he doesn’t get a free card for that bit of sacrilege either…

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:25 pm

Getalife

Mitt will have to win or lose on his own

Slim chance perhaps, but I’m still backing the underdog

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
8:25 pm

frog

I also listen to the rhetoric and ideology from both side. Unlike some, I take notes and educate myself to the truth behind the mumbles. ;)

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
8:28 pm

Reverend Wright, next to
Romney, is the most misquoted man in America.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

First, we do not live in a democracy.

The great irony of course, is that YOU are not qualified to vote, based on such a staggeringly stupid statement. Seriously, if you cannot grasp what a friggin democracy is, then you should stay home November 6.

Like I said, you neocons are terrified of that word.

Democracy. That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation, as distinguished from a monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy. Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, pp. 388-389.

Note: Black’s Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, can be found in any law library and most law offices.

The good news is that the less empowered you faux conservatives willingly become, the better off the nation is…

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:30 pm

Is Romney going to reinstate habeas corpus?

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
8:30 pm

hannity will probably attack on Libya.

“We’re supposed to be in session this week, but they’ve canceled it rather than passing a middle income tax cut, passing a jobs bill, passing the Violence Against Women Act, passing the farm bill–any of those things,” Pelosi said. “But yet they have time to say we want information, when they know it’s premature.”

Asked if she was suggesting the hearing was called for political purposes, Pelosi replied: “One might suspect that.”

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
8:32 pm

That must have been this week’s talking point as there have been a few other posters who have stated the same thing on Jay’s blog this week.

That’s the talking point every week from Neal Boortz. He used to be funny but now he repeats the same 4-5 points over, and over, and over…..

Obama is the biggest danger ever to the US.

Nobody votes for the president.

Racism is not prejudice.

47% of people don’t pay taxes. (Yes, that’s where that idiocy came from. Or at least the first place I heard it.)

Blah, blah, blah. Some of it is just plain dumb, some is @$$hole hairsplitting lectures like you’d get from a Star Trek fan if you said “Dr. Spock.” Followed by preening about How Much Smarter Than You They Is.

bman

October 2nd, 2012
8:32 pm

Keep up .. .. Did you google all day and night so you could finally form some sort of an opinion on the issue? You have a google-driven mind.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
8:33 pm

josef
October 2nd, 2012
8:30 pm
Is Romney going to
reinstate habeas corpus?
………..
not for terrorists and
neither will Obama.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
8:33 pm

All this talk about Democracy and Republics…. someone tell me when I am suppose to yell “Freedom”

Bro, a monthly report?…. in that part of the elitist plan with the daily calls telling us that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and giving us Ryan’s race times?

Welcome to the Occupation

October 2nd, 2012
8:35 pm

josef,

Well that’s an interesting take. I had always thought it was the perceived slander of the country that was most explosive, not the taking lord’s name in vain per se.

Frankly, these days I don’t see anyone CAN preach a sermon on the state of the world today without taking his name vain. After all, these are Old Testament days.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:36 pm

frog

Exactly and so long as it’s MIA the very basis of our freedom from tyranny is a moot point…

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
8:36 pm

Reverend Wright is retired.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:36 pm

All this talk about Democracy and Republics…. someone tell me when I am suppose to yell “Freedom”

That would be now — WOLVERINES!

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:37 pm

Aqua girl

Why do you listen to boortz silly?

Jm

October 2nd, 2012
8:38 pm

“getalife
October 2nd, 2012
8:36 pm

Reverend Wright is retired.

LinkReport this comment”

Obama payoff

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
8:40 pm

He said America invented aides.

Months later the government admits injecting std’s in Guatemalans “for study”.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
8:41 pm

josef
I’m not real impressed with
Congress but I think the
President should have a
free hand to deal with the
enemies of the USA here
or elsewhere.

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:41 pm

Welcome

That was and still is my objection to Wright’s hyperbole…vanity in extremis…the politics are one thing, the theology is another…

And it’s very much the left taking the same tact as the right in mixing religion and politics…

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
8:42 pm

Why do you listen to boortz silly?

I don’t any more, unless I’m waiting for traffic, weather, or actual news. But in that four minutes or so I’ll hear numerous upcoming posts from our cons.

td

October 2nd, 2012
8:42 pm

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

republic [Lat. res publica,=public affair], today understood to be a sovereign state ruled by representatives of a widely inclusive electorate. The term republic formerly denoted a form of government that was both free from hereditary or monarchical rule and had popular control of the state and a conception of public welfare. It is in this sense that we speak of the ancient Roman republic. Today, in addition to the above characteristics, a republic is a state in which all segments of society are enfranchised and in which the state’s power is constitutionally limited. Traditionally a republic is distinguished from a true democracy
in that the republic operates through a representative assembly chosen by the citizenry, while in a democracy the populace participates directly in governmental affairs. In actual practice, however, most modern representative governments are closer to a republic than a democracy. The United States is an example of a federal republic, in which the powers of the central government are limited and the component parts of the nation, the states, exercise some measure of home rule. France is an example of a centralized republic, in which the component parts have more limited powers. The USSR, though in theory a grouping of federated republics and autonomous regions, was in fact a centralized republic until its breakup in 1991.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Definition+of+Republic

Again you prove you know not what you speak. Civics 101 my friend.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
8:42 pm

oh no. the bchild is here…. still unable to distinguish “facts” from opinion. I’ve already told you, I am a bing guy…… Once again, my opinion on your worthlessness in posting, go pout away

josef

October 2nd, 2012
8:45 pm

frog

Not when it comes to habeas corpus. There’s a limit to the “free hand.” It’s a slippery slope to Chile’s and Argentina’s desaparecidos and dirty war…

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
8:45 pm

JamVet
a democratic republic is
a democracy in about any
sense of the word.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
8:46 pm

Kam, now you leave Michigan out of this! :roll: :lol:

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
8:50 pm

josef
combatants to the US are
the constitutional responsibility of the POTUS
not the courts or the
congress.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
8:50 pm

in that part of the elitist plan with the daily calls telling us that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and giving us Ryan’s race times?

Yeah, in last month’s report, it was in Section K, Sub-section 11, Paragraph 4, Clause G. :)

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
8:52 pm

congress is playing politics with the attack in Libya.

bman

October 2nd, 2012
8:52 pm

Keep .. .. You silly old man. I never pout. However, I do laugh. You still didn’t understand my original question.

If Kamchak can’t ruffle my feathers, no one can. I kill him with kindness. Heck, I have Aquagirl considering a tryout for Bikini Basketball.

The force is with me.

td

October 2nd, 2012
8:53 pm

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
8:29 pm

I guess you did not learn a great deal while serving this nation either. Explains a lot how a man of service turned out to be a progressive.

Prepared under the direction of the Chief of Staff.

CITIZENSHIP

This manual supersedes Manual of Citizenship Training The use of the publication “The Constitution of the United States,” by Harry Atwood, is by permission and courtesy of the author.

CITIZENSHIP Democracy:

A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of “direct” expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic–negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy

CITIZENSHIP Republic:

Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the “standard form” of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of

(1) an executive and (2) a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create (3) a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their government acts and to recognize (4) certain inherent individual rights.

Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy.

Atwood. Superior to all others.–Autocracy declares the divine right of kings; its authority can not be questioned; its powers are arbitrarily or unjustly administered. Democracy is the “direct” rule of the people and has been repeatedly tried without success. Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They “made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy * * * and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic.”

“By order of the Secretary of War: C.P. Summerall, Major General, Chief of Staff. Official: Lutz Wahl, Major General, The Adjutant General.

Get Real

October 2nd, 2012
8:54 pm

Kammie with the Red Dawn quote…nice

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

frog, tell that to the obtuse one.

Neocons have this new collective dementia, whereby the words republic and democracy are mutually exclusive. It boggles the even the astute ninth grade mind.

I ____ you not. That is how utterly insane and feckless they have become. Nobody outside the GOP’s globally cooled lunatic fringe even argues that we don’t live in a representative democracy. Or as you note a democratic republic.

And of all of their simplistic, absolutist sophistry that they have concocted over the past thirty years, that claptrap is right near the very top.

And though I really don’t care, I kinda wonder who started this mindless anti-American cr@p? Limbaugh? Hannity?

The servile ones don’t want we the people to have any power. They are absolutely terrified of an informed and engaged citizenry. Unless by we the people you mean we the corporations.

Corporations are people my friend.

td, by his own words should disqualify himself from voting…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

If Kamchak can’t ruffle my feathers, no one can.

There’s your sign.

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
8:56 pm

Next up: td freaks out when somebody calls a tomato a vegetable.

Get Real

October 2nd, 2012
8:57 pm

congress is playing politics with the attack in Libya

You mean to complete cover up as the reality did not fit the slogan “GM is alive and so is al-Qaeda” apparently……another inconvenient truth that the liberal media refuse to discuss

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
8:58 pm

“This isn’t just a New York trend,” this person said. “It’s beginning to occur all over the place.”
“said one person with direct knowledge of the matter. This person,”

“this person”, that’s it? “one person”, just one? Maybe the same person that told Harry Reid that Romney paid no taxes. Damn, Jay, has it come to this with you? “this person”…”one person”, really?

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
8:59 pm

combatants to the US are
the constitutional responsibility of the POTUS
not the courts or the
congress.

The POTUS, Congress, and all fed employees (military included) take an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

1 minute to the “game changer”

Is everyone is excited as I am?

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

We stand for freedom and democracy in the world.

bman

October 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

lol Kam .. .. My personal favorite is when you go fishing.

Tall

October 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

Romney doesn’t need to campaign. Just let Vice President Biden do the talking. Get that resume ready Mr. Bookman.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:01 pm

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
9:01 pm

Is everyone is excited as I am?

Yeah! I never miss “Face Off!”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 2nd, 2012
9:01 pm

Someone has probably already posted this but “Arf, Arf” !!!

Headline: “Biden: Middle Class ‘Buried’ Since ‘08″

“This is deadly earnest,” Biden said. “How they can justify — how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that’s been buried the last four years.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/02/biden-says-middle-class-buried-last-4-years-republicans-pounce/#ixzz28C3WfZis

Tall

October 2nd, 2012
9:02 pm

I can’t wait for the debates featuring Vice President Biden and Rep. Ryan.

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
9:04 pm

Biden tells audience middle class has been ‘buried’ last four years

Vice President Biden said Tuesday that the middle class has been “buried” for the last four years.

Biden made the remark at a campaign rally while arguing that Republicans would raise taxes on the middle class. He said the tax hike would be especially bad given what the middle class has been through over the last four years.

“This is deadly earnest, man. This is deadly earnest,” the vice president said. “How they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years — how in Lord’s name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts.”

Biden slipped up and told the truth

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
9:04 pm

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
9:04 pm

Aquagirl, you want a real laugh?

Ask td about the bet he concocted and made with me over at Kyle’s.

He even tried to involve Wingfield, who had the good sense to ignore his pleas to be the “moderator”.

It is beyond amusing…

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October 2nd, 2012
9:05 pm

Text of “Wizard of ID” cartoon:

Court official to Obama, “What are you offering the peasants in your election speech today?”

Obama, “Nothing they can afford to refuse; free housing, free clothing, food stamps, and jobs for everybody. Any questions?”

Peasants, “What do we need jobs for?”

bman

October 2nd, 2012
9:06 pm

“I can’t wait for the debates featuring Vice President Biden and Rep. Ryan.”

I think Ryan will probably do better. But, Biden isnt bad at debating the issues. It’s when he gets off-track that he makes himself look silly.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
9:06 pm

Brosephus,
POTUS deals with combatants to the US.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:07 pm

Ahem

How was the Univision “bombshell”? You think it is impacting the polls already?

Maybe the Electoral College?

hahahahaha

:-)

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:08 pm

tucker carlson’s hit piece.

Fail.

ahem,

The gop did bury the middle class.

Now they lie about helping the,

Do you but that lie?

Seriously.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
9:09 pm

1 minute to the “game changer”

Are you talking about NCIS: Los Angeles??? I wouldn’t really call that show a game changer although it is quite interesting in the plots they present.

:)

Welcome to the Occupation

October 2nd, 2012
9:09 pm

josef: “And it’s very much the left taking the same tact as the right in mixing religion and politics…”

Examples?

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
9:09 pm

Tall, the “debates” are for rubes.

They are not even debates, they are parallel interviews.

Whereby the pansy host tosses out softball questions and doesn’t even insist on actual answers!

They serve no real purpose from what I can tell, other than to line the pockets of the corporate/MSM machinery and further the Soviet-like goals of the Commission on Presidential Debates.

But the millions of TV addicts in this country pretend that they are relevant, so the sponsors love it…

Tall

October 2nd, 2012
9:10 pm

bman: See we will. If you use Mr. Bookman’s columns as a litmus test…….we will have a new president
in January.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:10 pm

Scout

You watching the “game changer” on Fox…………..

This one is going to take Obama down……….

Could be a Reagan / Carter election that you have been touting……… but coincidentally not so much lately, but that is beside the point

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:11 pm

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
9:11 pm

POTUS deals with combatants to the US.

That may be the case. It still doesn’t change the fact that we all took the same oath to do the same thing.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 2nd, 2012
9:12 pm

getalife: “tucker carlson’s hit piece.”

Lol. At first a thought I read “huckster carlson”.

Appropriate.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:13 pm

They are out of poo to sling. Finally.

ahem believes the gop are going to vote to help the middle class.

That is hilarious.

Aquagirl

October 2nd, 2012
9:13 pm

Ask td about the bet he concocted and made with me over at Kyle’s.

Let me guess: he won….a faceplant.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:14 pm

Well, well…it appears that Mother Jones isn’t the only news source that can play dirty pool. I guess everyone gets their 15 minutes of fame and 47 minutes of infamy:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/obama-speech-jeremiah-wright-new-orleans

This is going to leave a mark.

td

October 2nd, 2012
9:14 pm

Well, Well well, Obama now has been busted being nothing more then a race pimp like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

““The people down in New Orleans they don’t care about as much!” Obama shouts in the video, which was shot in June of 2007 at Hampton University in Virginia. By contrast, survivors of Sept. 11 and Hurricane Andrew received generous amounts of aid, Obama explains. The reason? Unlike residents of majority-black New Orleans, the federal government considers those victims “part of the American family.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/obama-speech-jeremiah-wright-new-orleans/#ixzz28C6hrtgD

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
9:16 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:07 pm
Ahem

How was the Univision “bombshell”? You think it is impacting the polls already?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Actually, I missed it and it is too soon to know how it will impact the hispanic vote. Do you have anything of substance you can share on that topic?

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

October 2nd, 2012
9:16 pm

Sounds like a pretty classic “sandbag”. Good work, Republicans.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

It got the fist fish.

td took the bait.

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October 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

They BOTH suck:

Time will tell ………… time will tell.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

Brosephus
POTUS and his employees
are authorized to take up
arms to ‘protect and defend’
not the courts or congress.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm

“This is going to leave a mark.”

In your underwear?

The election might be another issue

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
9:18 pm

getalife
i don’t think so.

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
9:18 pm

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:13 pm
They are out of poo to sling. Finally.

ahem believes the gop are going to vote to help the middle class.

That is hilarious.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Pick a fight with someone else, you booger-eating leech.

Josef

October 2nd, 2012
9:19 pm

Welcome

Claiming To have an inside line to G-d.. i.e. hellfire and damnation on the political adversaries…

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:21 pm

frog,

I was correcting my previous post that read fist and I meant first.

td swallowed the bait first on this blog.

It changed his game.

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
9:21 pm

Oblunda= the angry black man clinging to his hand mirror and smokes

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:22 pm

ahem,

You do believe the gop will vote to help the middle class don’t you?

Tall

October 2nd, 2012
9:23 pm

JamVet: I will be honest: I have never watched a debate between politicians because it is too hard to stomach. However, this President has skillfully exploited the soft underbelly of political correctness over the course of his career to get where he is. The progressive media – Jay Bookman, et.al – has hitched their wagons to him and can’t afford to lose. Mr. Bookman has yet to publish one logical reason why he should be re-elected. Every one of his columns has been about the ineptness of the Republicans.

In my heart, I believe it will be tragic if Barack Obama is reelected to a second term Our enemies are waiting for him. On the other hand, the cynic in me will cheer the destruction of the Democratic party if they do win. The wave of problems headed our way is simply too much for the incompetent buffoons of the Democratic party to handle.

The currency and interest rate markets are cruel masters….as you will see.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
9:24 pm

getalife
i know.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
9:24 pm

frog

I know that, and I have the holster to prove it. Congress defends the Constitution through legislation. The pen is mightier than the sword. Our current Congress just happens to not be so agile with the pen.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:25 pm

“In your underwear?”

Very weak refutation, but a great deflection!

“The election might be another issue”

Let’s see how frantically the DNC rushes to control the damage. Though the video has been “out” for years, I never was aware of it and I suspect that is the case for most people. Obama’s campaign apparently released a “transcript” of the prepared speech, but…well…Obama kinda went off script. I bet he wished now he had used a teleprompter ;-)

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:26 pm

TC

You are another one in desperation mode……….

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:26 pm

“enemies are waiting for him”

They are looking for drones or helicopters.

Ask obl.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:27 pm

You let me know at the end of the weak when the polls are tightened and it is attributed to this “bombshell”……..

Josef

October 2nd, 2012
9:27 pm

Gotta run…g’night

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:27 pm

crier takes the bait.

He is number two.

Jack

October 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm

Over 500 posts from only six people.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm

getalife

Don’t even need to set the drag. They are practically jumping in the boat

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm

Do we have to drink whenever Romney throws in a “zinger”…

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:29 pm

end of the week………

excuse me

td

October 2nd, 2012
9:29 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:26 pm

TC

You are another one in desperation mode…

It appears someone is on the official DNC tweet list.

gm

October 2nd, 2012
9:29 pm

Here we go again 3 times college drop out scum bag Sean Hannity claims he will show a video of Obama in 2007 telling black audience the gov dont care about them, certain scum bags on the right like hannity are a disgrace to this country he will say or do anything against the President of the United States.

Amazing this guy is worst then any terrorist ever been, and his low eye que viewing audience really follow this scum bag loser”””

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:30 pm

“You are another one in desperation mode…”

Time is going to tell a lot of things, TBS. I am just not eager to have a conflicted racist (because he is mulatto) in the White House any longer.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:31 pm

It will be interesting to see if romney uses this attack and it shows up on corporate media.

The point that New Orleans had to match 10% and other cities did not is a good point.

So, play the tape.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
9:31 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm
Do we have to drink
whenever Romney throws
in a “zinger”…
…………….
No, but it might help..

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:31 pm

TC

Call him what you will, but if the general consensus is not a knockout for Romney over the 3 debates, you going to have to get used to it…………..

one way or another

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:33 pm

td

Give us the synopsis of the game changer or has Hanitty ran the clip yet…………

You are it wasn’t a Hail Mary from Romney’s own 10 yd line?

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
9:33 pm

Trying to figure out why conservatives are so adamant that we don’t live in a democracy, when it is clear that a republic and a democracy are not mutually exclusive. Nobody ever claimed we live in a true democracy. Democracy includes representative democracy, which is what we have, as well as it includes a true democracy, which we don’t have.
Only reason I can come up with is that conservatives want to govern themselves without having to answer the majority of the people in this country. So they hide behind the word republic as if it will protect them from changes wanted by the vast majority of the people.
We are a government of the people, for the people and by the people.
Arguing semantics will not change that.
Everything in the constitution can be changed by a vote of enough people. That makes our government included within the definition of a democracy.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:34 pm

“It appears someone is on the official DNC tweet list.”

Wrong, td…TBS “claims” both parties “suck” and so could not be on that tweet list. It’s just that great minds think alike ;-)

gm

October 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

To all the angery white male conservatives Romney will have plenty of time to ship more jobs overseas after he is defeated.

Obama has 60% of jews, 90% blacks, 80% latinos, 60% sane women, 60% seniors, so that leaves the rest of conservatives angery white males in the south except Florida, and you wonder why these states are dirt poor, go figure”””’

td

October 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:33 pm

td

Give us the synopsis of the game changer or has Hanitty ran the clip yet…………

Myself and TC posted the a link to watch the speech in its entirety. Go watch it yourself and come back and tell us how it is nothing.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:37 pm

Both,

They will swallow any lie to get our President.

If we could change that laser like focus on getting jobs for Americans, we would have them by now.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:38 pm

Pick a fight with someone else, you booger-eating leech.

Red-card, or yellow?

td

October 2nd, 2012
9:39 pm

gm

October 2nd, 2012
9:36 pm

Your numbers are a little off but let us see if these suburban white women stick of leave Obama’s side in the next week or so after they see the real messiah.

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October 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

Jack:

“Over 500 posts from only six people.”

I am SO glad you posted that !

Actually, there are about a dozen regulars (including myself) on Jay’s illustrious AJC threads day in and day out ………. and a couple of those don’t even live in the U.S. !!

About eight are liberal and four of us are conservative.

Every once in awhile a fresh voice will jump in but it’s rare and they don’t stay (or Jay bans them).

In effect, these threads are a “mini-facebook” for us “dirty dozen” …………. :o

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

I am just not eager to have a conflicted racist (because he is mulatto) in the White House any longer

:roll: So I guess Obama is not winning because he is black then. :roll:

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:41 pm

Juan said it is much ado about nothing.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:41 pm

getalife

Let me guess, Van Sustren will have a segment on it then it will be on to Fox and Friends in the morning and talk radio……

Going to spread like wildfire. Romney may be declared the winner by noon tomorrow

Tall

October 2nd, 2012
9:41 pm

…”To all the angery white male conservatives Romney will have plenty of time to ship more jobs overseas after he is defeated….

GM:

Got proof? No. Keep babbling…..you’re the Obama voter. Obama thinks you’re stupid. And he’s right.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm

hannity went crazy after Juan said it was nothing. Too funny.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm

“Call him what you will, but if the general consensus is not a knockout for Romney over the 3 debates, you going to have to get used to it…”

Here’s an interesting observation for you, TBS:

If Silver had decided to look at what polls from NYT and CBS were saying before their final poll in 2008, he would see that they had Obama winning by 14 early in October. That number would then drop to 13 in mid-October, and then 11 by the end of the month. The final CBS poll would settle in at 9 points, two points higher than Obama’s final margin of victory. So yes, the “final” poll was within 2 points of getting the vote right. But the one taken less than 4 weeks earlier had estimated his lead by more than double what actually happened. I’m guessing Nate Silver would have a great explanation about the McCain surge no one else experienced…

Cillizza declared Pew Research the “gold-standard in non-partisan polling” and said that the WaPo samples are correct because Pew’s non-voting adult samples back up the argument. How good is Pew? In their final poll in 2008, Pew Research just about nailed the 2008 result when they predicted a 6 point win for Obama. But what’s even more astonishing is that just a week before the election, on October 26th, the Pew poll had Obama up on McCain by an amazing 15 points. So in one week, McCain went from trailing Obama by 15 points to just 6 by election day. That was one heck of a surge for McCain at a time he was getting hammered and it was clearly over. But hey, Pew “nailed it.” Or, perhaps, the last poll got a little extra tweaking so they wouldn’t be embarrassed.

=http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/01/Media-Respond-to-Being-Challenged-on-Poll-Data

I have not had time really to investigate whether or not this happened in reverse for Republicans in the last, say, 30 years – but if the polls have consistently overstated Democratic favorability in the months before the final poll (which THEN can only be “wrong” at the pollsters own peril) – that would almost prove bias. Does anyone know if such a study has been conducted?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 2nd, 2012
9:43 pm

Only poor people have numbers in their budget! #RomneyZingers#RomneyEncore

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
9:43 pm

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October 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm

_______

Don’t tell me you have been taking names.
You must have been the kid who would take names of those who talked while the teacher was out of the room and turn the list in when she got back.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:44 pm

TC and td

I didn’t watch the Romney 47%, so I doubt I will watch the “game changer” either.

I’m sure when Obama is polling at 35% by the end of the week, I will then now just how effective it was on the minds of the electorate

:-)

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:44 pm

Both,

Looks like Juan ended it so they will attack on the Libya attack like patriotic real Americans.

Tall

October 2nd, 2012
9:44 pm

Good night. ….Sorry GM..too late to joust. Maybe another time.

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
9:45 pm

Just watched last night’s debate between Elizabeth Warren & Scott Brown. My opinion, FWIW, toss-up. I am rooting for her, but he is no pushover.
Yeah, I am a politics junkie.

In light of earlier discussion, may have to add to my blog name: snow on the roof.

barking frog

October 2nd, 2012
9:45 pm

getalife
they should give juan more
time.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:45 pm

In my heart, I believe it will be tragic if Barack Obama is reelected to a second term

In my heart, I believe that I will win next year’s Oscar for best director.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:47 pm

“Myself and TC posted the a link to watch the speech in its entirety. Go watch it yourself and come back and tell us how it is nothing.”

You know you have hit an artery when liberals say that. Their behavior is SO predictable at times. The either 1) deflect or 2) dismiss when they have been nailed. It is an inbred defense mechanism.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:47 pm

TC

If they are as wrong as you desperately want to believe, we will see on election day.

If so, I will say they were wrong and I was wrong as well.

If they are right, you will make excuse after excuse as to why Romney lost the election.

Don’t forget one of the folks touting how wrong the polls are is none other then Dick “McCain is going to walk away with this election” Morris. He was touting the exact same thing in 08.

just saying

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
9:50 pm

“Myself and TC posted the a link to watch the speech in its entirety. Go watch it yourself and come back and tell us how it is nothing.”

You did not. If you’re referring to that daily caller link, the video in your link is less than 5 minutes long. Here’s the entire video which is more than 9 minutes. I guess we’re witnessing another case of selective video editing….

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/this-might-be-the-drudge-obama-video-the-internet-is-buzzing-about/263172/

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm

TC

Rush and Hanitty were doing the same as well………..

Let google be your friend and go check out their predictions from 08

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm

They call it a cover up.

Now if the Dems played politics right after 9/11 and refused to unite to get obl, “liberal media would go crazy.

They have liz cheney attacking but Ari said it was wrong on cnn.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:52 pm

Boortz on the other hand is saying that conservatives are fools if they think all the polls are incorrect.

Of course he does his Obama is a commie diatribe, but says how weak Romney is and if things don’t change………… don’t expect him to win

But this video you guys are latching on it, might just do it

:-)

td

October 2nd, 2012
9:53 pm

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
9:50 pm

If you would have bothered to go to page three then you could have watched the entire 47 minute speech.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:53 pm

“If they are right, you will make excuse after excuse as to why Romney lost the election.”

No, brother, I will admit I was wrong. But, (apparently) like 60% of the American populace, I am distrustful of the “mainstream” (long established and ostensibly “objective”) media which has been shown time and again to have a liberal bias. They pay the bills for these pollsters. Besides that, as I have said in earlier blogs, new telephone technology (cell-only households and VoiP) and rules are making polling both much harder and more expensive. I read recently that it is estimated only 9% of the population answers polls – down from close to 40% two decades ago. THAT is a problem. Google it and you will see.

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October 2nd, 2012
9:54 pm

Oscar:

“Don’t tell me you have been taking names.”

You mean “handles” …………….. :o

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:54 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Spice Girls announce their reunion at the O2

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:55 pm

“Boortz on the other hand is saying that conservatives are fools if they think all the polls are incorrect.”

FYI, I NEVER listen to Boortz…to me he is not unlike Limbaugh – pompous, cold-hearted and frequently wrong.

Lord Help Us

October 2nd, 2012
9:55 pm

That’s it…it’s over. I have changed my vote. No way I am voting for someone that plays to their audience.

Tucker Carlson is cute when he is angry.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
9:56 pm

What is up with our democracy averse cons here?

They are getting less and less truthful and more and more inane as this year rolls along.

This is going to be a dreadful next five weeks for them. It can’t be easy on the faux conservatives as they watching the worst GOP candidate in a lifetime embarrass himself every other day.

Speaking of which, td do you have a team of writers working on your blog concession speech, re your Wingfield bet with me?

LOL.

And NO teleprompters!

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:56 pm

Oscar

Don’t forget that Scout did investigative work. That handle will lead him right to your front door……..

He will track you down

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:57 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: BREAKING: Orange Revolution sweeps Ukraine

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
9:57 pm

“…other news from 2007: Spice Girls announce their reunion at the O2″

What did I tell you? Liberals either 1) deflect or 2) dismiss when they have been nailed. It is an inbred defense mechanism. Thanks KamChuck for the additional proof ;-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:58 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: White House aide Lewis Libby, Jr. is found guilty on four of five counts of perjury and obstruction of justice trial.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
9:58 pm

Really?

You GOPers safe room/last fall back is to blame the evil liberal media for your gawdawful right wing ideology and nominee???

Weak as water…(And I am unanimous in that opinion!)

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm

TC

Sort of like you dismissing those numbers in that article that both Jay and Bro shout down yesterday, huh?

You sure dismissed them when you couldn’t defend them

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: “Crank Dat” by Soulja Boy tops the charts

Lord Help Us

October 2nd, 2012
10:00 pm

Speaking of Tucker Carlson…he just said something to affect of, ‘ I covered this story in 2007 and I can tell you this wasn’t reported…’

Wow…

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
10:01 pm

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
10:01 pm

“I didn’t watch the Romney 47%, so I doubt I will watch the “game changer” either.”

Well, I didn’t go to MJ to watch the tape either, TBS. But, unfortunately, I was shown parts of it repeatedly by mainstream news channels (even on ET tonight – LOL!!!). If THAT doesn’t strongly suggest liberal bias, I am not sure what does.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:02 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Breaking: Apple to release revolutionary smartphone

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:03 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Internet start-up called Twitter to spin off into its own company

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
10:04 pm

Liberal bias – the new Republican laxative…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:05 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Tony Dungy becomes first African-American coach to win a Super Bowl, with the Colts

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:05 pm

The Dems should call out the gop on this attack on Libya like Pelosi did today.

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
10:05 pm

Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow……..

With this “explosive new video”, I assume they might just have Romney’s inauguration as earlier as tomorrow, but no latter than Friday…….

:-)

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
10:07 pm

“You sure dismissed them when you couldn’t defend them…”

Where? I never DISMISSED their alternative figures. I asked for proof and then went on to say that lower figures did not change my argument (if you read my first post to the last, you will see that is true). You can tell when Jay is unsettled because he gets testy. He just didn’t like what I was saying. He did NOT challenge the other figures I supplied – only the one he knew had been modified.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:08 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Radiohead is changing the music industry forever

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:09 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Conservatives touting Mitt Romney and his private health insurance plan.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
10:10 pm

Just like us Hebes, the Latinos are still overwhelmingly on the mooching Dem plantation.

Obama enjoys the backing of 70% of likely Latino voters, according to the CNN/ORC International survey, slightly higher than the 67% of Latinos who voted for him in 2008. Republican nominee John McCain garnered 31% of the 2008 Latino vote. Romney wins support from 26% of Latino voters questioned.

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
10:10 pm

“This has been a test of the right-wing emergency bombshell network. If this had been a real bombshell, you would have been instructed where to turn ….”

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:11 pm

Though the video has been “out” for years…

other news from 2007: Huckabee looking like a strong sleeper candidate

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
10:12 pm

If you would have bothered to go to page three then you could have watched the entire 47 minute speech.

If Carlson wanted me to watch that, then he should have put it on page 1. First rule of keeping a reader interested, don’t make me go to the end of the article to see what you want me to see.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
10:18 pm

Kamchak

I have to admit that I looked at that Twitter feed. I will have to go and cleanse my brain for even accessing Twitter, but for tonight only, I went there. The one question that I have in relation to this bombshell is that, if this video was recorded in 2007 and placed on youtube, what does it say about the GOP’s opponent research when nary a peep was made about this video in 2008?

As I’ve often said here, if y’all were offended by what was said on that video, you really would not want to hear what is said in barber shops and other places where Black men congregate and talk amongst themselves. Some of us do the exact same thing that some of y’all White men do when you’re amongst yourselves… you let loose with how you really feel about those who are unlike you and don’t have a clue as to what it’s like to be like you.

One of these days, I’ll have to record some of that stuff and post it on youtube. I can already see y’all clutching your purses and wallets when we walk by you after you hear some of that stuff.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

St Simons - he-ne-ha

October 2nd, 2012
10:20 pm

As explosive as opening Al.Capone’s vault!

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:20 pm

Bro,

Just checked it and it is the headline.

Caught this gem on this blog:

” Report: Cut energy subsidies to trim deficit – TheDCNF”

Ya think. Duh.

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
10:20 pm

They BOTH suck

October 2nd, 2012
9:56 pm
______

Thanks for the tip. Always glad to have someone watching my back.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:21 pm

Billybob

October 2nd, 2012
10:22 pm

this column is pure conjecture and i love how leftist libs like you jay always try to tell republicans who they should run and what they are thinking and what they should be doing……you are funny…..how about a column on the ambassador terrorist attack cover up by blaming it on a video…..how about a column on why the white house is urging contractors to ignore the law and not send out layoff notices and then the labor relations board will reimburse their legal fees based on that……this guy ignores the law and more people are seeing this ideology for what it is……keep talking jay……please……

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:24 pm

It means they are out of poo, out of money and out of luck.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:24 pm

SoCo/Bro

I was following TBogg’s twitter when I read that retweet about drudge being porn, so I knew something was in the pipeline.

Someone then set up that othernewsform2007 twitter account and it’s been nonstop mocking

Billybob

October 2nd, 2012
10:25 pm

the newest videos only prove once again that obama is a divider, not the uniter that he and the media marketed in 08′…..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:26 pm

As explosive as opening Al.Capone’s vault!

Or

Dude. It’s not a bombshell. It’s barely a popcorn fart.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:27 pm

“keep talking jay……please……”

It is his job and he gets paid for talking silly.

What do you do bibob?l

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
10:27 pm

getalife

Did you read the entire piece?

Cutting certain research and development programs would also yield savings, including $6 billion over a decade after eliminating Department of Energy funding for “Biomass and Biorefinery R&D.”

“The government spends billions every year doing research that should be done by private industry,” writes TCS. “Taxpayers should and do pay for basic research into the most nascent and least understood energy technologies, but these mature industries should pay for the research from which they will ultimately benefit.”

I guess that taxpayer group didn’t read where the currently popular fracking came to be popular because of extended research over a course of several decades that was funded by government dollars. I think we started funding fracking research in 1975 and it didn’t pay off until the late 2000’s.

td

October 2nd, 2012
10:28 pm

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
10:10 pm

“This has been a test of the right-wing emergency bombshell network. If this had been a real bombshell, you would have been instructed where to turn ….”

You sure were having a little fun a couple weeks ago when the MJ tape came out. I guess this one hurts a little by reading the remarks.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
10:28 pm

How about you manning up and addressing the theme of the thread, bb?

No ideas as to why your nominee is in trouble with his own political party?

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:29 pm

Jam,

He did eat at Tex-Mex today and promised Latinos he would follow our President’s leadership on deportation.

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
10:29 pm

Kamchak

I’m probably one of the few that do not twitter, facebook, or any other stuff. The AJC and WaPo blogs are about the extent of my social networking. I prefer to talk to people face to face when at all possible, and I’m not that interested in other people to follow what they see, eat, and think all day. :)

Brosephus™

October 2nd, 2012
10:32 pm

Y’all have fun.. I’m out.

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
10:32 pm

Brosephus™

________

I do facebook. It’s good to help keep up with children, nieces and nephews and get pictures. That’s about it.
Twitter. What’s a twitter. Can’t figure out why you tweet on twitter instead of twit on twitter. Twitt sound more correct.

Billybob

October 2nd, 2012
10:35 pm

jam,
the rino’s are no different that the entrenched dems…..conservatives will be changing that in the republican party over the next few years…..hopefully the dem party will purge itself of all the career politicians who are screwing things up as well…..
fyi…the theme of the thread is wishful thinking more than anything else….how about that jam

bman

October 2nd, 2012
10:37 pm

“He did eat at Tex-Mex today and promised Latinos he would follow our President’s leadership on deportation.”

LOL

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
10:40 pm

bman,

Chipotle .

Jay

October 2nd, 2012
10:42 pm

“You sure were having a little fun a couple weeks ago when the MJ tape came out. I guess this one hurts a little by reading the remarks.”

Ummm… no. I mean it sincerely when I say that mostly I just feel sorry for those who have been taken in by such nonsense, who have allowed their hopes to be manipulated like this. I understand that you very badly WANT this five-year-old video that was reported on in 2008 to become the magic counterpart to Romney’s 47 percent video.

But wanting doesn’t make it so.

The rest of America is going to look at this video and shake its head at what the right wing has come to think of as relevant. And when this video fails to shake up the race as you believe it must, you will attribute that failure to the media conspiracy against you. That conspiracy theory allows you to evade the real truth, which is that you have been sold a bill of goods by those eager to make a buck off you.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:42 pm

Twitter. What’s a twitter. Can’t figure out why you tweet on twitter instead of twit on twitter. Twitt sound more correct.

Our host tweets.

gm

October 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm

Please right wing desperate nut jobs please keep showing the video of Obama what 5 years ago?, and the left will show golden boy Ryan video of last year saying 30% of the country wants to be on welfare.
Obama has proved he is for Americans without class or color ask 75% of whites in Ohio , Mich, who jobs were saved, I mean come on scum bag Hannity and right wing nut jobs dont you have anything in the last 4 years? we have Gordon Gekko(Mitt) within the last year.

Desperate

Desperate

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm

Bluto’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these b-st-rds. Now we could do it with conventional weapons. But that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
10:46 pm

Whoa there, cowboy.

You’ve already purged the RINOs, right?

Can you name even a dozen in the US Congress? I don’t think so.

Liberal/moderate Republicans are your smallest problem.

Sounds like any big changes in the GOP are gonna have to happen in a more substantive, policy driven way.

Any ideas?

Oscar

October 2nd, 2012
10:48 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:42 pm
______

I meant that as a compliment, of course.

To be taken in the best possible light possible.

Billybob

October 2nd, 2012
10:49 pm

jam,
quid pro quo……dems can show something first….
gm,
did you get your obama phone……easy

Midori

October 2nd, 2012
10:50 pm

omg!!!

obama was talking to *GASP* black people!!!

burn him!!!

he’s a witch!!!!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:52 pm

Oscar

To a certain extent SoCo/Bro is right in his disdain for much of the twitterverse where celebs are tweeting about every breath they take, but those with blogs like our host and TBogg can make a point in 40 characters without creating an entire thread.

Billybob

October 2nd, 2012
10:52 pm

jam,
the policy way has been happening for almost two years, but no one knows about it because harry reid is the biggest failure as leader of the senate in the history of our country…..the media hides what he is doing as well and people like jay turn their head the other way when reid doesn’t pass a budget for 1200+ days

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
10:53 pm

MIDORI!

How the hell are you?!

Billybob

October 2nd, 2012
10:53 pm

jay,
biden says he and obama have buried the middle class these last four years…..do you agree with him?

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
10:54 pm

Obama pulled a bubba

Midori

October 2nd, 2012
10:55 pm

Tommy Maddox

October 2nd, 2012
11:00 pm

Try “The Government is putting away the checkbooks”. Then maybe we can talk.

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:02 pm

“omg!!!

obama was talking to *GASP* black people!!!

burn him!!!

he’s a witch!!!!!”

Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Tommy Maddox

October 2nd, 2012
11:02 pm

Holy smokes!

Midori

October 2nd, 2012
11:05 pm

Well, AP –

stupid is as stupid does.

bet you’re an expert, huh?

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:10 pm

Midori.

A question for you. How does it feel to be an a-hole?

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
11:12 pm

BB, why are you having a parallel conversation with yourself?

Can you not answer a simple question written in standard written English?

Where are these RINOs that are causing so much distress for you vis a vis your beloved, Purity Tested GOP?

YOU are the one who said the rino’s are no different that the entrenched dems…..conservatives will be changing that in the republican party over the next few years…

C’mon here is your chance to put your money where your so-called conservative mouth is.

Give me a number.

Are there eighty one RINOs in congress?

Or is that just eighty one commies? (Per the deranged Alan West.)

BTW, he is trailing badly in his reelection race in Florida.

Hoozah…

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
11:13 pm

American politics,

Good one :)

Midori

October 2nd, 2012
11:13 pm

more important question is when are you leaving your mom’s basement?

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
11:16 pm

“Bluto’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these b-st-rds. Now we could do it with conventional weapons. But that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.”

Still a classic.

You should have stopped there ap.

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
11:22 pm

Kam@9:38, a red card. Eeeww.

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:25 pm

Getalife. I call em as I see ‘em.

The “October surprise” was, um, less than a surprise.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
11:26 pm

Apologize to Midori.

Istillcantshutupaboutbush

October 2nd, 2012
11:26 pm

Here we go again 3 times college drop out scum bag Sean Hannity claims he will show a video of Obama in 2007 telling black audience the gov dont care about them, certain scum bags on the right like hannity are a disgrace to this country he will say or do anything against the President of the United States.

Amazing this guy is worst then any terrorist ever been, and his low eye que viewing audience really follow this scum bag loser”””

Lol – You’ve gotta love a guy who slams someone for dropping out of college and writes at a third grade level. Sometimes you libs just make this too easy.

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
11:30 pm

Hi Midori if you are still here. We were asking after you yesterday. josef especially. Hope all is well with you.

Ol' Timer

October 2nd, 2012
11:33 pm

George Will had it right when he said, “Conservatives define themselves in terms of what they oppose” and that includes everything the POTUS has proposed since 2010.

I’m very concern about the future as many of those who rode the Tea Party to vicotry ran on the promise not to give an inch, not to compromise with the Dems and to sign the Norquist Pledge. Unless the POTUS just completely capitulates on every GOTP proposal, we’ll see gridlock and that could send the economy into a double dip recession — and it’s all uncalled for if these yahoos would put the country ahead of their political aspirations.

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
11:33 pm

YOU GO, JAY!!

Fred ™

October 2nd, 2012
11:33 pm

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:02 pm

“omg!!!

obama was talking to *GASP* black people!!!

burn him!!!

he’s a witch!!!!!”

Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually Midori is a she so she can hardly be a “son.” I also doubt you are near old enough for her to be your “daughter.”

Now crawl back into your mom’s basement please and quit harassing your betters.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
11:34 pm

“Ummm… no. I mean it sincerely when I say that mostly I just feel sorry for those who have been taken in by such nonsense, who have allowed their hopes to be manipulated like this. I understand that you very badly WANT this five-year-old video that was reported on in 2008 to become the magic counterpart to Romney’s 47 percent video…

The rest of America is going to look at this video and shake its head at what the right wing has come to think of as relevant. And when this video fails to shake up the race as you believe it must, you will attribute that failure to the media conspiracy against you. That conspiracy theory allows you to evade the real truth, which is that you have been sold a bill of goods by those eager to make a buck off you.”

What did I tell you? Liberals either 1) deflect or 2) dismiss when they have been nailed. It is an inbred defense mechanism. Thanks, Jay, for the additional proof.

You must be tone deaf or dumb, Jay, to imagine there is NOT a racist tinge in some of the things Obama says. He is a racist, plain and simple – but “white” liberals like yourself are eager to dismiss that in another attempt at self-flagellation and atonement for guilt you feel you must own (even though, like me, you probably had NOTHING to do with despicable acts of white racists decades ago). If you had ever bothered to really mix it up with our black fellow Americans – you know, like going into inner cities to help in a charitable cause or by actually getting to know them through friendships and deep discussions about race and stuff like that – you would know that blacks can be and often are as racist as any white person. Indeed, racism knows no racial boundaries – I have known some Hispanics who dislike blacks and Asians.

I have never seen this tape before (even the snippets that were previously released). I am betting I am not the only one. I guess you better hope otherwise. It’s now on Fox so there is going to be DNC damage control, which will make everyone know about it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/02/video-surfaces-obama-in-2007-suggesting-racism-slowed-aid-to-post-katrina-new/

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:36 pm

Getalife 11:26

She didn’t get the joke. I was making fun of the apoplectic peeps. I don’t know why she hates Obama.

So she elected to insult me. I’m sure she’ll apologize one day.

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
11:37 pm

MSNBC’s RACHEL MADDOW: “This is supposed to make you believe that in this tape from before he was president, Barack Obama is revealing his secret plan to be way more black than he seems to you now. This is how he snuck into the White House, right? People didn’t know he was this black and if they would have known he was this black, they never would have elected. That’s the idea here, right?”

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Don’t blame me libertards; she is a foot soldier in your army.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
11:39 pm

“You’ve gotta love a guy who slams someone for dropping out of college and writes at a third grade level. Sometimes you libs just make this too easy.”

There is a lot of unintended irony in many of the statements made by liberals on this blog. Sometimes it is funny, other times sad.

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:39 pm

Fred 11:33, perhaps you can ponder this: was I making fun of Midori, or echoing her sentiments?

Since she can’t be a son, you may have a clue.

G Mare

October 2nd, 2012
11:41 pm

Hi, Midori, good to see you here. I continue to hold you close in my heart.

Getalife@11:26, yeah, that poster NEEDS to apologize to Midori.

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:41 pm

Towncrier. What was racist about what the mulatto said?

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
11:42 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 2nd, 2012
9:38 pm
Pick a fight with someone else, you booger-eating leech.

Red-card, or yellow?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Trying to bait Jay is soooooooooo unbecoming. Besides that, can you conclusively point out anything untrue in my post?

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
11:43 pm

ap,

Like I said, you should have stopped after your first comment.

I like Animal House too but don’t insult people like ahem or you look like a con.

That is fat, drunk and stupid.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
11:43 pm

“Don’t blame me libertards; she is a foot soldier in your army.”

I expect that tomorrow we will see a whole lot of mainstream media journalists DNC operatives rushing to dismiss and deflect away Obama’s racism – Matthews, Brokaw, Jones and the regular cast of characters. Heck, I bet Jay even rushes to do the same.

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
11:44 pm

William, how about this for some irony?

You are not even a real Christian.

LOL.

iRun

October 2nd, 2012
11:44 pm

Wait, there’s actually a video? I thought it was 2008 myth.

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:45 pm

Getalife

I’m sorry if my posts are cryptic. My dog whistle is broken.

getalife

October 2nd, 2012
11:46 pm

ap,

Apologize to Midori not me.

Classic Conservative

October 2nd, 2012
11:46 pm

‘Boortz said last week that……..’

Like anyone with half a 55 year old retired linebacker’s brain would give a rat’s…. what he thinks.

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
11:48 pm

Obviously not dismissed as “old news” by the DNC, otherwise why the mad dash to herd up the sycophant media and blog hosts? Even ahead of the airing. Hmmmm?

The Democratic National Committee — armed with the help of dismissive tweets from a variety of journalists — scrambled Tuesday night to attack The Daily Caller for its videos of President Obama’s controversial race comments in 2007 before the story was even published.

Using comments from reporters speculating on TheDC’s report, the Democrats quickly worked to dismiss the story it hadn’t seen yet — which was teased Tuesday afternoon on Sean Hannity’s radio show and on the Drudge Report — by calling it “lame.”

At about 7:30 p.m. ET, the DNC Rapid Response team sent an email to reporters titled “That was Lame,” listing “instant reaction to the latest lame Drudge/Hannity desperation tactics.”

The email merely included tweets from journalists — before the story was published — expressing skepticism and disinterest and the mistaken claim that the video had been published before.

The tweets used by the Democratic National Committee came from reporters at organizations including Politico, BuzzFeed, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, New York Magazine and the Atlantic.

The mere prospect that videos of Obama talking about race and his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, would be published had the committee quickly working to kill the story.

In an attempt to link the story to Republican nominee Mitt Romney, the DNC also sent out an old story about Romney saying he would not make Wright a campaign issue.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/dnc-scrambles-to-deflate-obama-video-before-daily-caller-story-published/#ixzz28Cj5rnui

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
11:48 pm

Five year old rabid red meat videos are going to right the ship for Mitt Custer’s Last Stand Party?

Riiiiight…

American Politics

October 2nd, 2012
11:49 pm

Sorry Midori. Please don’t call me stupid if you don’t understand my post.

I think I saw Obama praising Jesus. What will the Muslim-o-phoebes think now?

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
11:50 pm

The mooching Kneel Boy is so typical of our feckless Republicans he absolutely refuses to debate Bookman.

What a hoot…

JamVet

October 2nd, 2012
11:52 pm

Five more weeks of hell, neocons.

Enjoy! And sweet dreams…

Ahem

October 2nd, 2012
11:54 pm

If the MSM had done their job in 2008 and properly vetted the ManChild Oblunda, this video would indeed be “old news”. But that is not what happened and now the failure has a record and now there are some things seeing the light of day. The president is a sham; a fake ; a huckster; and above all; a failure.

Towncrier

October 2nd, 2012
11:57 pm

“Towncrier. What was racist about what the mulatto said?”

Oh…something about the blacks in New Orleans being “not part of the American family” in the eyes of the Bush administration (even though he – not Clinton or Carter or LBJ – appointed the first black person to Secretary of State and considered her one of his most important advisers…oh…wait…she was an Aunt Jemimah), something about the government investing in “minority-owned businesses” instead of building “more highways out in the suburbs” and something about a pregnant woman being shot and her baby being born with a bullet in her arm as a metaphor for racism against blacks.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
12:12 am

Alright … I watched the video. It isn’t the worse thing I’ve ever seen & it doesn’t look like some “game changer”. But, the game is pretty close and it doesn’t take much to change it.
If this video were to get the national press that Romney recently was given, it could change things.

If anyone believes Obama will actuly gain votes with this video, I have a vowel or 2 I’d like to sell you.

Marty Huggins'

October 3rd, 2012
12:17 am

Welp just want to first say how angry I am at all of you.

I have just now watched part of Hannity in my own home for the first time.
All because of you folks talking about this stupid video.

So far Hannity is what I expected,

However I thought this was supposed to be a video of a speech by Barak Obama?

Who is this guy with the odd kinda old time southern blacksplotation film accent speaking?

Kinda looks like a young President Obama.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
12:17 am

Yep…it’s getting air play:

=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/full-2007-video-of-obama-emerges-of-then-senator-obama-claiming-federal-discrimination-against-new-orleans/

=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57524924/obama-video-october-surprise-or-old-news/?tag=AverageMixRelated

=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/81946.html?hp=f2

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
12:23 am

Marty Huggins’

October 3rd, 2012
12:17 am

Welp just want to first say how angry I am at all of you.

I have just now watched part of Hannity in my own home for the first time.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I’ll send Stanley Steemer tomorrow.

G Mare

October 3rd, 2012
12:26 am

Towncrier, I really hope I did not understand your last post.

bman

October 3rd, 2012
12:28 am

“Kinda looks like a young President Obama.”

Sure. That was a typical Obama campaign speech in 2007. Picking your brain would take all of 2 seconds….

Marty Huggins'

October 3rd, 2012
12:29 am

Fred ™
October 3rd, 2012
12:23 am

No messes yet!

But getting dizzy from the confusion!
The video is confusing
The guy who just spoke with the deep voice is freaking me out!
Hannity is disturbing at the least! He needs to get laid too angry.
We’re gonna need hookers, expensive escorts may say no.

By far though Hannity’s hair is confusing me!
What the hell is that on top his head?
Is it alive or dead?

Marty Huggins'

October 3rd, 2012
12:31 am

bman
October 3rd, 2012
12:28 am

Hey I’m about two tall glasses into a bottle right now so could you please be more specific?

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
12:35 am

Marty: I can’t get over Hannity’s grating New York accent. I never could. I tried listening to him when he was on air here at WGST, couldn’t do it. I feel the same way about Fran Dresher, (The Nanny). I don’t care HOW fine she was, that nasty ass New York accent is like scraping nails down a chalk board.

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
12:36 am

Time for bed. Guess I missed Midori…….

Marty Huggins'

October 3rd, 2012
12:43 am

Fred ™
October 3rd, 2012
12:35 am

Oh I’m a southern to the core. Most northern accents kinda give me mini chills.
Except hardcore Boston accents.
But if you don’t like or appreciate Boston well you ain’t American!

Update!
Not as angry at y’all anymore……

Watching this video has me rolling on the floor!
I can’t get over the accent!
Hell I can’t make a judgement cause I have no idea what he has said

Should I feel bad for giving him ratings.

Reverend Wright, did I just hear Reverend Wright!
Holy Shlt

Ken

October 3rd, 2012
12:43 am

40 minutes of hate speech.. Should have been vetted properly 4 yrs ago.

Marty Huggins'

October 3rd, 2012
12:46 am

Ken
October 3rd, 2012
12:43 am

You’re telling me!

I had no idea President Obama did impersonations, not very good impersonations but impersonations just the same.

Have you figured out who he is trying to be yet?
Is it a harecter from Roots?

Ken

October 3rd, 2012
12:55 am

I will never understand why mainstream covers for him. sickening !!!!!!

Fred ™

October 3rd, 2012
1:04 am

Ken

October 3rd, 2012
12:55 am

I will never understand why mainstream covers for him. sickening !!!!!!
+++++++++++++++++

Anyone who talks about “mainstream media” is a Rushbot or a FOX sheeple and has zero credibility.

LeRoi2

October 3rd, 2012
2:17 am

I just sent Mitt $250K last week, and will contribute another $1M between now and Election Day.

Working Woman

October 3rd, 2012
5:43 am

Attention ALL women: it is now your time to shine…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuBRwhomv7w&feature=related

stands for decibels - race traitor

October 3rd, 2012
6:03 am

“This has been a test of the right-wing emergency bombshell network. If this had been a real bombshell, you would have been instructed where to turn ….”

I couldn’t be bothered reading all the comments, but as to this “bombshell” I have to ask once again–is there a living, breathing American who DIDN’T already hear “no no no not God bless America, God damn America” at least 70 times, already, in March 2008?

WTF do these right wingers think they have up their sleeve?

weetamoe

October 3rd, 2012
6:07 am

With campaign ads like *vote like your lady parts depend on it* how could president shifty shiftless lose? No wonder the republicans have thrown in the towel.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
6:12 am

Good morning to all y’all…

A game card for tonight’s debate…

http://cheezburger.com/6631877888

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
6:14 am

How our Middle Class sees ol’ Mitt…

http://cheezburger.com/6629514752

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
6:16 am

Mitt in a meeting with his knowledgeable staff…

http://cheezburger.com/6563258624

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
6:17 am

I’m done, gotta work… :)

Frederick Douglass

October 3rd, 2012
6:40 am

So this new bombshell video is the Republicans idea of the “October” surprise? I hope to hell they’re not thinking of replacing Halloween with that bullsheet!

hiram

October 3rd, 2012
6:57 am

I attended a party over the weekend, where one of the guest was a personal friend of Ann Romney. She related that she told Ann that she couldn’t vote for Mitt because of his position on women’s issues, like right to choose. Ann informed her that she need not worry, because he is only pandering to the right wing nuts to get elected, and doesn’t really think that way – true story.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 3rd, 2012
7:18 am

Bombshell?

Listened to it again…..as I did 4 years ago…

And still,

Nobody said

“whitey”

Can’t that damn Hannity get anything right?

American Politics

October 3rd, 2012
7:25 am

Town crier

Possibly incendiary? Maybe.

Racist? Um, nope.

Rightwing Troll

October 3rd, 2012
7:26 am

“He is ripping this country apart at the seams and you don’t seem a bit concerned. ”

Actually it’s all you teee baggerzzz and racist klansmen “ripping the country apart”…

And your remedy for this is to go back to the policies of 2000-2008. That’s why smart liberals are not inclined to vote for Mittens… Look at yourselves man, I came out in support of Huntsman yesterday and was called a marxist by one of your ilk. Liking Huntsman makes me a marxist??!?

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
7:27 am

Apparently the “October Surprise” is that the Republicans have learned nothing from this campaign season and continue to grasp at straws. A 5 year old video, that anyone not using a “dial up” modem could easily view since 2007 is their “ace in the hole”? Really?

American Politics

October 3rd, 2012
7:27 am

“white honkeys are dumb and always vote Republican” – Imaginary Obama

That was racist. Did Obama say that?

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
7:30 am

With todays technology, I don’t understand why Hannity doesn’t just manufacture some footage of Obama standing outside a warehouse and personally handing out brownshirts and jackboots to his “secret army”.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
7:31 am

Have Sean and Tucker uncovered the secret legislation in which Obama plans to replace Lincoln on the 5 dollar bill with an image of Reverend Wright?

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
7:34 am

Liking Huntsman makes me a marxist?

Crazy, huh?

When I refer to some self-identifying conservatives here and in the right-blogosphere as “nutters” or “wingnuts” or suchlike, just for the record–I am referring to the sort of person who would actually think such a thing.

I recognize that there are plenty of somewhat rational right-leaners, who (for example) might want to have rational discussions about what degree of involvement the federal government should have in personal lives, who can discuss these things calmly and on a macro level.

uh huh

October 3rd, 2012
7:39 am

RT@7:26

“I came out in support of Huntsman yesterday and was called a marxist by one of your ilk.”

Supporting Huntsman’s flat tax policy makes you a right-wing “regressive” tax supporter. Libruls hate your kind.

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
7:44 am

I want to address a sub-plot getting some play in all this.

Word got out after the 2008 election that Team McCain considered using the Rev. Wright angle to attack Obama; I guess this came to light, mostly after some Romney SuperPAC was considering Going There a few months back. (Rachel was talking a bit about that last night, as well, which reminded me about it.)

Here’s what I don’t get. Why are we uncritically buying the notion that Team McCain decided not to Go There because it would be decisive, wrong, Bad for the Country, etc.?

Isn’t it a lot more likely they didn’t Go There because it would be pointless, ineffective, not something about which the vast majority of voters could possibly give a good crap? As I have said countless times–our so-called Liberal Media played the “God Damn America” clip from the Scary Colored Minister over and over and over again in March 2008. There’s no way anyone missed that connection to Obama. The right wing echo chamber had people spreading the stupid “Obama belonged to a ‘racist’ church!” bit for months and months; you continue to see “racist church!” flags hoisted aloft in online discussions and, I imagine, AM talk radio.

It obviously didn’t make a difference among anyone who wasn’t already pre-disposed not to vote for Obama based on discomfort with his race, or with his past associations. This stuff had been out there for forever–for crying out loud, the title of his bestselling book, “The Audacity of Hope,” was a catchphrase he’d taken from Rev. Wright!

Why people continue to cling to this notion that Obama still hasn’t been “vetted”, or that McCain going dirtier than they did, would’ve made a plug nickel’s worth of difference, is something that truly mystifies me.

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
7:45 am

(”it would be DIVISIVE, wrong, Bad for the Country,” I meant to type, obviously, above.)

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 3rd, 2012
7:49 am

uh huh

October 3rd, 2012
7:51 am

Obama claimed to be post-racial. Accusations of federal discrimination against Katrina victims (because they’re black) is anything but…….

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
7:53 am

Thanks to Food Stamps

Finn, that’ll be filed with “We’d have 7%, not 8%, nationwide unemployment if not for tightwad Goopers in the House” in the “Stuff too difficult to explain in a general election soundbite” file, I’m afraid.

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
7:55 am

Accusations of federal discrimination against Katrina victims (because they’re black) is anything but…

“Post-racial”?

I can’t recall Obama actually using that term. Care to provide a cite?

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
7:57 am

stands – “The right wing echo chamber had people spreading the stupid “Obama belonged to a ‘racist’ church!”

Interesting how that talking point then morphed into Obama being a Muslim. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe that Rev. Wright was preaching in a mosque.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
7:57 am

If Huntsman were the Republican nominee, you guys would be saying almost the exact same things about him

Magic underpants
Greedy businessman
Job destroyer
Outsourcer

You guys are pretty sick in the head

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
7:58 am

Oh I left off

Awkward
Bad politician
Flip flopper

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:01 am

Jm – “If Huntsman were the Republican nominee, you guys would be saying almost the exact same things about him”

Actually , if Huntsman were running, I’d be supporting him and he would be winning. He was an excellent Governor of Utah, and having grown up in that state, I know first hand of the excellent reputation the man has. Not everyone votes along party lines.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:04 am

And for huntsman you turkeys would add “manchurian candidate”

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 3rd, 2012
8:04 am

uh huh

October 3rd, 2012
7:51 am
Obama claimed to be post-racial. Accusations of federal discrimination against Katrina victims (because they’re black) is anything but…….

.
.
.
.

which echo the same complaints by then Congressman now Governor Bobby Jindahl

uh oh

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
8:04 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe that Rev. Wright was preaching in a mosque.

yeah, what are you gonna do?

This is the same bunch of dead-enders that almost to a person accepts the notion that “liberation theology” equals some kind of violent black-separatist ideology.

(That’s where this stupid “racist church” meme comes from, of course.)

Lord Help Us

October 3rd, 2012
8:04 am

When is the last time Romney mentioned he was planning to repeal Obamacare on his first day in office?

He’s gone squishy, that’s why he is behind…

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 3rd, 2012
8:05 am

Gotta keep chipping away at it, SFD. It’s called the “ground game” or the “short game” or the “trenches”.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:06 am

Jm – “Greedy businessman
Job destroyer
Outsourcer
Awkward
Bad politician
Flip flopper”

You’ve done a great job of describing Romney. None of those would apply to Jon Hunstman. It’s a shame that the GOP decided to go with the worst candidate possible. Had they stuck with Huntsman, they more than likely would have won by a landslide.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:08 am

Butch hogwash

If that was your criteria you’d be voting for Romney

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:09 am

Oh, and by the way, you think romney is a bad politician?

I guy who can’t poll above 1% or so is even worse

You guys are a joke

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 3rd, 2012
8:10 am

Jm

Bless your heart.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:11 am

Jm – “Butch hogwash

If that was your criteria you’d be voting for Romney”

No, I don’t support Romney, because he’s a horrible candidate. I did however support Huntsman for Governor and as a Presidential candidate. Once he was eliminated from the race, my loyalty to the cause was eliminated with him. It takes more than just being the “last man standing” to earn my support in an election. Sadly, the same cannot be said about many who post on this board.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:11 am

Butch 8:05 more BS

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:12 am

If Huntsman were the Republican nominee, you guys would be saying almost the exact same things about him

I wouldn’t. I’d be saying “He did a really good job in that movie with Kristen Stewart.”

(think about it)

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:12 am

Jm – “Butch 8:05 more BS”

Please explain.

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
8:13 am

Jm, my major problem with Huntsman is his inability to support reproductive rights, and a presumption that he would appoint judges that would continue to erode them (along with, probably, more corporate-friendly judges, although I don’t know that they’d all be Federalist Society stooges.)

As far as his fiscal conservatism, I have no reason to think he’d be terribly different than Obama. He had, after all, opined that the original Recovery Act money probably wasn’t big enough. And he’s demonstrated time and again that he isn’t part of the nutball climate-change denier crowd.

(as far as his 2012 campaigning, obviously he missed an opportunity to stand out when he sheepishly raised his hand and went along with the primary debate crowd in saying he’d walk away from a hypothetical 10:1 spending cuts:tax increase deal. Obviously, he just didn’t have the guts to have that fight, at that time, which spoke poorly for him. I’d hope he’ll know better if he decides to run again in 2016.)

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:13 am

BREAKING NEWS ON FOX:

Obama is BLACK!!!

:lol:

And that’s what passes for news in Rightwingnutistan.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:14 am

Granny

Bless you too

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
8:14 am

It’s called the “ground game” or the “short game” or the “trenches”.

all it’s doing is providing a little warmth and comfort for the already-confirmed. It doesn’t move the needle a hair for Romney, I don’t think.

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:16 am

<i.If Huntsman were the Republican nominee, you guys would be saying almost the exact same things about him

Magic underpants
Greedy businessman
Job destroyer
Outsourcer

You guys are pretty sick in the head

As I haven’t said that about Romney, even though I don’t support him, why in the hell would you suggest that I would say that about Huntsman, when that was the one candidate that I would have supported from the GOP’s cast of Clown Circus 2012?

Put away your broad brush and use the fine brush. You can paint better trees that way. Only Bob Ross is good enough to paint trees with the broad brush.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:17 am

Lord Help Us – “When is the last time Romney mentioned he was planning to repeal Obamacare on his first day in office?”

I think it was right before someone explained to him that he couldn’t actually repeal a law on day one. And, that it would take a great deal of debate and support from the House and Senate. Otherwise, continuing to say that you will makes you seem uninformed at best, and a liar at worst.

Lord Help Us

October 3rd, 2012
8:21 am

Private payrolls up 162k in Sept…

Good news…right?

barking frog

October 3rd, 2012
8:22 am

Inter your comments here

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:24 am

As I haven’t said that about Romney, even though I don’t support him, why in the hell would you suggest that I would say that about Huntsman, when that was the one candidate that I would have supported from the GOP’s cast of Clown Circus 2012?

I haven’t said those things either. What I’ve said is that someone who is running for president of THIS country shouldn’t hide his money in some other country to avoid paying taxes. And he shouldn’t avoid paying taxes by declaring an asset has substantially less value than it really does so that he can hide it away in an IRA tax-free… that’s called tax evasion and it’s not a trait I want in someone who is running for president. He also doesn’t have any real core convictions other than “I want to be President”, which means I have no idea how he’ll govern once he gets into office.

Obama ain’t the best, but he’s MUCH better than Romney. And elections are about choices between two viable candidates. Jm continues to pick the wrong candidate.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:25 am

Private payrolls up 162k in Sept…

Yes, that’s good news, provided that the previous numbers were not all decreased (it’s the follow-up numbers that indicate whether the birth/death adjustment is too large or too small; too small means the economy is growing faster than expected, too large means it’s growing slower or shrinking).

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:26 am

Butch 8:06 (actually)

Those pithy sound bit descriptions no more describe Romney than huntsman

Huntsman more than one utterly failed to deliver a bad joke

That doesn’t make him a flawed person, only a flawed politician

Same is true for Romney. The guy is somewhat awkward, but that has no relevance for me as to his qualification to be prez

And I could go on and on

Oh, Huntsman has 20 some odd facilities in China? Why don’t they make everything in America? He outsourced jobs!

Lib logic. It’s dumb.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
8:27 am

Stepped in for an early morning break and I see jm has become a mind reader…don’t give up the day job, jm…

And…for what it’s worth…if Huntsman was the GOP candidate, I’d be conflicted right now. I really did (do) respect him.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 3rd, 2012
8:28 am

Obama ain’t the best, but he’s MUCH better than Romney. And elections are about choices between two viable candidates.

This election, like any other, ByteMe, is one between two candidates pre-approved by the two monopoly parties, which represent two faces of the ruling elite, and who represent minimal effort to address the true problems of working people who make up the bulk of the population. But you’re right: Obama is better than Romney. At least in the short term. In the long term, there’s no way to stop a slide into serfdom for millions of people without breaking up this entire sham electoral system.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:29 am

And…for what it’s worth…if Huntsman was the GOP candidate, I’d be conflicted right now. I really did (do) respect him.

Me too, but I think his approach to reproductive rights would bother me enough to cast a vote the other way.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:30 am

In the long term, there’s no way to stop a slide into serfdom for millions of people without breaking up this entire sham electoral system.

Optimism is sexier than pessimism. Just sayin’.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
8:31 am

Nobody has yet convinced me anything will change regardless who is in the WH or congress…is the argument that the same special interests that control the agenda and cash flow will change in some fashion?

I posted this yesterday but got no action….interesting analytical angle on actual unemployment which is, including those who have left the job force is up from around 13% to…possibly over 20%..great play for Romney..

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

independent thinker

October 3rd, 2012
8:33 am

The issue is how many whoppers is Romney going to blurt out tonight that are patently untrue?

Doggone/GA

October 3rd, 2012
8:34 am

“two monopoly parties”

Contradiction in terms. “mono” means one

Welcome to the Occupation

October 3rd, 2012
8:34 am

ByteMe: “Optimism is sexier than pessimism”

A stern and honest facing of the true facts of a situation, however painful, is more effective than re-arranging words and passively accepting what’s doled out to you like a good serf. And in the end, probably sexier, too, actually.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:35 am

Jm – “Oh, Huntsman has 20 some odd facilities in China? Why don’t they make everything in America? He outsourced jobs!”

Yes, and he did business with Bain back in the early 2000’s. He was also a great Governor, Ambassador to China (our primary creditor), and a successful businessman. Everything that the the party “claims” to crave in the next POTUS. The problem is that Romney has very little substance, and has been running for tha last 5 years. If Romney was so awesome, wht wasn’t he the one debating Obama in 2008? I don’t vote party, I vote candidate. I’m not voting for Obama, and I’m not voting for Romney. When my candidate of choice lost the primary, I no longer had a stake in the race. As I previously stated, my loyalties do not change based on the “flavor of the week”. If I show up to the dealership, and the Corvette I wanted is gone, I do not automatically settle for the Fiesta and then try to convince everyone that it’s the greatest car ever made.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:36 am

Bro. I’d have preferred to vote for Michael Bloomberg

It’s irrelevant

Shoulda woulda coulda

Romney or Obama?

Who will deliver a better economy, better jobs, more intelligent policy?

My money is on Romney.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
8:38 am

I find it interesting that on this thread and others, people who’ve self-identified (or been pegged as) moderate, independent or liberal would have either strongly considered, or have supported, Huntsman if he were the Republican nominee. Says a lot about who the Republican process weeds out vs who would have the broadest appeal to the majority of voters.

Then again, if Republicans wish to continue standing on ideological, litmus-test purity vs electability, we’ll continue to see a Democrat in the White House.

Great strategy you have there, Republicans.

Frederick Douglass

October 3rd, 2012
8:38 am

The ” trenches” for Romney are commonly referred to as moats; as in the one that surrounded the castle that he hid out in to escape the Vietnam war.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 3rd, 2012
8:41 am

Doggone/GA: ““two monopoly parties”

Not so actually. Two parties can monopolize a political field by monopolizing the resources in that field, squeezing out competitors. In this case both political parties ultimately serve the same class of interests, despite putting forward a face of holding different views on key policies, hence the monopoly.

It’s the interests and the class that stands behind and rules these two parties that makes up the ONE of the monopoly in this case, not the two parties themselves. But go ahead and call it a cartel system if you like, that’s fine too.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:43 am

Butch I’m sorry, you do realize the absurdity of this statement I hope

“If Romney was so awesome, wht wasn’t he the one debating Obama in 2008?”

A- Romney won this time and is now debating Obama. Primaries are contests

B- if Huntsman is so great, why isn’t he debating Obama in 2012?

Come on man. Juice the circuits.

Doggone/GA

October 3rd, 2012
8:43 am

“Two parties can monopolize a political field”

It doesn’t matter how many political parties there are…in name. When it comes time to vote there are only two anyway: those who vote Yes and those who vote No

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 3rd, 2012
8:43 am

I WOULD have been conflicted about now?
.
lol

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
8:44 am

Byte Me @ 8:24

I concur!!

—————————

Romney or Obama?

Who will deliver a better economy, better jobs, more intelligent policy?

My money is on Romney.

That’s your opinion, and the good thing about opinions is that they are not required to be factual at all. I don’t think Romney has the spine necessary to stand up to the Far Right. That would negate any possible benefit that he might bring to the table. That’s how I see it.

curious

October 3rd, 2012
8:44 am

Romney is a chameleon. He changes color (position) depending on the environment (audience).

That isn’t good when judging a person’s character.

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 am

Welcome

Doggone is right doofus

Just add duopoly to your repertoire

independent thinker

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 am

When Mitt Romney talks about prejudice in the Mormon church and their baptising of dead Holocaust victims, and his personal beliefs on Mormon practices, I will get all excited about Obama giving a shout out to Rev, Wright where he clearly is not endorsing Wright’s views. In fact in 2008 he publicly condemned them. Unlike Obama, Mitt says his religious views are off limits. Big difference cons Suck it up. .Sean Hannity hasn’t changed from his race baiting tactics that got him kicked off WGST here in Atlanta.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
8:45 am

The jobs report suggesting we are up 162,000 jobs as a measure, like any, has it’s shortcomings..namely, this is based on ADP…a payroll company, and doesn’t count or substantiate net new jobs…It is a projection based on the growth in payroll so it’s simply a guess. Second, don’t forget, every single monthly jobs report has been corrected at a couple months as the data tightens…anyone ever saw the revised number go in reverse…virtually none of the growth was in manufacturing which suffered a reduction…

Assuming 25,000,000 unemployed (attached graph is interesting) this is an increase of .60% which will be downsized slightly in a couple months..

Woo F’ing HOO…lets rush out and re-elect the arrogant one…
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t11.htm

Tundra Dude

October 3rd, 2012
8:46 am

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
great play for Romney..

Right….he should bring that up in the debate: “According to ShadowStats….blah, blah”

Obama:
Oh, Shadowstats, eh…. is that part of the Shadow Government…? Where are they located….in Area 51….??

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 3rd, 2012
8:47 am

Gospel according to Government, first book of Politicians, Chapter 3, Verses 17-19(King Obama version 2012)———–

“The foolish man builds his house upon consensus, cooperation, and voluntary interaction, but the wise man builds his house upon political promises, state coercion, and the lust for power over others. Free will, self-determination, and peaceful coexistence are the devil’s work, and lead only to fire and brimstone, suffering and torment. But blind obedience, unthinking loyalty, and unwavering subservience are the path to salvation.”

“You have heard that it hath been said, love your neighbor, and do unto others as you would have done unto you. But we, the politicians, say unto you, pray for the incarceration or extermination of those who are not like you. But pray also for your neighbors to be taxed and regulated, petition for your friends to be controlled and enslaved, devote your heart and soul to the rituals of the cult of politics, so that we, the high priests of government, may dominate all of mankind, for its own good. Only then shall you have everlasting peace.”

Welcome to the Occupation

October 3rd, 2012
8:49 am

ByteMe, others:

The way that you can tell that our two parties work in tandem to silence debate on some of the most critical issues (most of them in fact) for the people and for the long-term morality of our societies is perfectly illustrated by the fact that there has been ZERO public debate of the morality of drone strikes and the advancing security state during this election.

When you consider the enormous significance of these issues, which strike at the very root of the principles that the society purports to hold to as ultimate ideals – ideals of due process, rule of law, etc. – that speaks volumes about the utter corruption of our political system and of the DUAL and complicit nature of our two-party system in furthering that corruption.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
8:49 am

TUNDRA,

When you come back with data that credibly counters what I have posited, then you will be worth listening to…

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 3rd, 2012
8:50 am

Vegas odds to win:
Obama 1/6
Romney 7/2

Romney needs a home run tonight.

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 3rd, 2012
8:51 am

Blessed are the blindly obedient, for the politicians shall reward them.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:51 am

Jm – “A- Romney won this time and is now debating Obama. Primaries are contests

B- if Huntsman is so great, why isn’t he debating Obama in 2012?

A – Congrats to Romney for finally making it to the show. I still consider him to be an inferior candidate.

B – You would have to ask the GOP that question. If their intention was to beat Obama and reclaim the Whitehouse, they should have given Huntsman more support. Maybe they just felt that Romney was due a shot after losing to McCain before McCain lost to Obama. Who knows?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 3rd, 2012
8:51 am

If Friday’s job report is positive then the whole thing is rigged.
If the report is negative then the Cons won’t be able to utter a word without mentioning it.

Women Urge Candidates To Address Paid Sick Leave

October 3rd, 2012
8:52 am

At women’s town hall event for Virginia Senate candidate Tim Kaine (D) on Monday, the former governor came prepared to address several issues of import to women. He discussed Virginia’s mandatory ultrasound legislation, equal pay for women, birth control access and even a state law that prevents women who were previously incarcerated from being able to vote. But when a personal care assistant in the third row asked Kaine how he was going to address the fact that many workers like her have no paid family or sick leave, he was taken by surprise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/paid-sick-leave_n_1933379.html

Welcome to the Occupation

October 3rd, 2012
8:52 am

Jm: “Doggone is right doofus”

Sorry, not convinced.

My whole point is that the two-ness of the system has the character of a sham. It’s the interests behind the two parties which are key, and they form a single bloc. Hence the MONO. Point stands therefore, in my view.

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
8:53 am

The problem is that Romney has very little substance, and has been running for tha last 5 years.

Reminds me…

not that Jon Huntsman is going to pay me a dime for my advice, but if I were he, I’d find some nontrivial public-service position to fill for a couple of years, so that when I found myself driving around Iowa in 2015 I’d have something to run on besides relatively ancient history.

I really do think that’s an underappreciated Romney problem, actually. I’m sure he’s been busy enough, all these years, but what’s he really done, of substance? Nothing I’ve heard of, and I’m a freakin’ political junkie.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
8:53 am

BRO,

Something I am not capable of grasping…if BO can’t impact gas prices, middle east uprisings, jobs, deficit (the latter all Bush’s fault or course)…what exactly can he impact that is of any value today?

He made a decision any of us would have made and that was developed by the Bush re-construction intelligence network and “got” OBL…Pelosicare also happened under his watch however, he had very little, if nothing to do with it…Pelosi et al kept him away for the most part…So he “got” OBL and passed a bill that will cost us $2.8 trillion over 10 years..

What else can we expect?

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
8:54 am

jm,
Look, if Huntsman was the GOP guy running against President Obama, it would mean that the GOP had turned back to a more center stance in its views. That alone would have meant a victory for the GOP. It’s their far right stance that is killing them now because Romney can’t pull it off…and if they keep it up, they will be defeated again in 2016.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
8:54 am

Finn,

Weather vane Flip needs several tape measure home runs tonight, but the guy is a punch and Judy hitter…

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
8:56 am

STANDS,

They are both are men who lack substance……on relies on visceral, celebrity, “you really like me” support, the other relies on dogma of right extremist (but has at least a modicum of leadership experience)…

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
8:56 am

Bro yes of course it is my opinion

I think Romney’s spine is fine

He is doing what it takes to win in this day and age

So is Obama

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:56 am

If Friday’s job report is positive then the whole thing is rigged.
If the report is negative then the Cons won’t be able to utter a word without mentioning it.

True dat.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:57 am

Stevie Ray – “What else can we expect?”

Haven’t you heard? Free cell phones, EBT cards for all, the “secret army”, death panels, federal agents used for cartel target practice, and a nation ruled by Sharia Law. Keep up man. ;)

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
8:57 am

MORE BAD NEWS DEVELOPING FOR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN…

New Model to Predict Unemployment Sees Rate at 8.1%
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/10/02/new-model-to-predict-unemployment-sees-rate-at-8-1/

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
8:58 am

**What else can we expect?**

Less chance of us getting into another war, leave social security and medicare as is, keep hammering away at creating jobs, we are on the right track with no help from the house on the jobs bill. Higher taxes for those making over 250k – no more tax cuts for the wealthy thank you…

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
8:59 am

USMC – “MORE BAD NEWS DEVELOPING FOR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN…”

You mean it gets worse than the release of a 5 year old video that’s been available for 5 years? How is that possible?

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
8:59 am

But when a personal care assistant in the third row asked Kaine how he was going to address the fact that many workers like her have no paid family or sick leave, he was taken by surprise.

I’m not surprised. I don’t have it either and I own the company :) A lot of firms will provide UNPAID family leave or provide short-term disability politicies, but most firms just don’t offer paid family leave or more than a set number of days off per year.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
9:00 am

MORE BAD NEWS DEVELOPING FOR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN…

Did you hear he’s BLACK too?

When are some people going to figure out that the “magic 8%” number isn’t so magical?

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:00 am

MORE CORRUPTION FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION…

At White House Request, Lockheed Martin Drops Plan to Issue Layoff Notices
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/at-white-house-request-lockheed-martin-drops-plan-to-issue-layoff-notices/

Jm

October 3rd, 2012
9:01 am

Normal

So Mr Romneycare, pro choice, economically, not foreign war focused isn’t centrist enough for you?

I guess we know where you lie on the political spectrum

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:02 am

USMC – … in other words, unchanged.

ooooooooooo … scary.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:05 am

USMC – “MORE CORRUPTION FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION…”

How can you believe a story from ABC News? I thought that all the media outlets were “in the tank” for Obama and that reporting is always “biased”. No?

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

Jm,
I know you are not that naive. Romney was all for those things before he was against them. That’s why he won’t win. He won’t stand up to the Right Wing money. He doesn’t have the strength of character to espouse his beliefs and stand by them. To me, that makes him a moral coward and I don’t want that kind of man in office of any kind.

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

“The problem is that Romney has very little substance, and has been running for tha last 5 years.”

Yes Romney is so stupid that he can not be elected President by the libs but the strange thing is these same libs have entrusted him with all their money over the years and Romney has made them a great deal of money.

Mick

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

Sorry, but the repubs seem a bit desperate and are grasping at straws. The problem is your candidate and the bigger problem is the republican brand itself, for most voters it’s DOA…

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

MORE CORRUPTION FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION…

At White House Request, Lockheed Martin Drops Plan to Issue Layoff Notices

I’ll bet you don’t even understand what it’s all about, but the headline looks bad to you, so you fling poo and hope it sticks to something. Who do you think cares at this point??

curious

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

USMC
October 3rd, 2012
9:00 am
MORE CORRUPTION FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

Who uncovered this?

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
9:07 am

independent thinker

“When Mitt Romney talks about prejudice in the Mormon church and their baptising of dead Holocaust victims, and his personal beliefs on Mormon practices,”

I believe you’ll have difficulty finding any cites on any of those ‘facts’ about Candidate Romney.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:07 am

“So Mr Romneycare, pro choice, economically, not foreign war focused isn’t centrist enough for you?”

:lol:

that was “Romney Then” … next month, you’ll be voting on “Romney Now” – who has renounced all those things.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
9:08 am

Yes Romney is so stupid that he can not be elected President by the libs but the strange thing is these same libs have entrusted him with all their money over the years and Romney has made them a great deal of money.

We’re not laughing with you, td. We’re laughing at you.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
9:08 am

BUTCH,

Wassup? All those things you mentioned, are of course, all GOP BS rhetoric…I understand the “free cellphones” program has been around a long time and is sponsored by cell phone companies…

MICK,

Who knows if we will get into another meritless war? I don’t…our odds do increase with lack of any semblance of cogent foreign policy..Social Security and Medicare are completely insolvent and will not remotely serve those of us who expect benefits in the next couple decades without material increases in tax our kids will pay.the tax increases (250k and up or are we really talking 1 mil and up) won’t put much a dent in deficit…won’t even offset the additional amount he has spent in HC alone. What jobs bill has he presented (see immigration bill…oh there is none)

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:09 am

td – “Yes Romney is so stupid that he can not be elected President by the libs but the strange thing is these same libs have entrusted him with all their money over the years and Romney has made them a great deal of money.”

Wow, that’s amazing. And here I thought my ability to retire before the age of 50 was based on my 25 years working in finance, investing and my family trust fund. Here I find out that I owe it all to Romney. Gosh, thanks td.

DannyX

October 3rd, 2012
9:10 am

Lol! Last night td was all over the big 5 year old “October surprise” predicting a game changer. You got punked td.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 am

wow – talk about a bunch of sound and fury over nothing:

“We will not issue sequestration-related WARN notices this year,” Lockheed announced in a written statement. “The additional guidance offered important new information about the potential timing of DOD actions under sequestration, indicating that DOD anticipates no contract actions on or about 2 January, 2013, and that any action to adjust funding levels on contracts as a result of sequestration would likely not occur for several months after 2 Jan. The additional guidance further ensures that, if contract actions due to sequestration were to occur, our employees would be provided the protection of the WARN Act and that the costs of this protection would be allowable and recoverable.”

in other words … nevermind …

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 am

Jm is so intellectually dishonest that he refers to Mitt Romney as a pro-choice candidate?????

Incredible…

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 am

USMC

“MORE CORRUPTION FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION…”

Did you think that up all by yourself or did you lift it from somewhere?

You’re sounding an awful lot like In The News – just link to a bunch of sensationalistic headlines and articles, never ever offer any thoughts about them. Do you have any original thoughts about that story?

If so, perhaps you can tell us why companies would have to lay off workers in Nov or Dec when programs won’t be affected for many months down the road? Some a year out? Or why companies have to lay off workers up front on program A when program A’s going to remain fully funded and it’s program B that’s going to see some reductions? Or maybe it’s an option year on a multi-year contract that won’t be picked up?

Surely you can tell us what’s corrupt? Maybe it’s corporations wanting to unnecessarily send out pending layoff notices right before the election to give a better shot for the Republican candidates?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 am

” these same libs have entrusted him with all their money over the years and Romney has made them a great deal of money.”

we have???

news to me.

Doggone/GA

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 am

“Yes Romney is so stupid that he can not be elected President by the libs but the strange thing is these same libs have entrusted him with all their money over the years and Romney has made them a great deal of money.”

My Dentist did a great job of curing my abcessed tooth. That doesn’t neccessarily mean I would vote for him for President.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 am

“When are some people going to figure out that the “magic 8%” number isn’t so magical?”

Yes, great point, the true unemployment rate is closer to 16% when factor in the people who have STOPPED looking for a job. :-)

larry

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 am

So Mr Romneycare, pro choice, economically, not foreign war focused isn’t centrist enough for you?

Problem is , thats not the Romney that is running.

Its the repeal Obamacare, anti-choice, supply side economics, bomb Iran and have Isreal dictate our foreign policy Romney that is running.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:17 am

MORE BAD NEWS BREAKING FOR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN…

Obama, Romney Tied Among Likely Voters
http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/obama-romney-tied-among-likely-voters-20121002

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 am

JamVet

Jm didn’t say who’s making the choice for whom -

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 am

Oh USinUK, you are sooooo clueless not to see the fire and hear the fire alarms….. just because the thought is that after the election the congress can work out the sequestration issues does not mean that Obama is not corrupt for requiring strict compliance with notices that would panic many. ;)

OMG its like they are actually breaking the law…. like ACORN… (but, but don’t look at that Sprull guy the GOP used).

DannyX

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 am

“Yes, great point, the true unemployment rate is closer to 16% when factor in the people who have STOPPED looking for a job.”

And yet you just linked to a story that used the 8.1% figure. Make up your mind.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 am

USNUK,

The suggestion of the article is that the WH made overtures..if this is true, it’s more fodder to confirm all this dope does if for personal political gain….he probably threatened a reduction in future purchase orders…

At least he is leading an exceptional investigation on behalf of the families of our folks in Libya…Has UN appointee RICE or Clinton made any more comments about the advance warnings?

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 am

ex-pat, if you are referring to the nonsense posted by the ex-marine, the guy does not even read the articles that he posts links to. He sees a titillating (for him) headline and runs with it!

But his depth of knowledge on any of these matters is like the Platte River, an inch deep.

And why he makes such a good Republican – unread and uninformed and fiercely proud of it!

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

we have???

personally, I wouldn’t entrust the slimy 2012 model Romney to break a twenty.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

USMC

Nevermind my 9:15. USinUK answered for you at 9:11

Another lib rescues a con from the fact-free zone.

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

DEACON OBAMA DELIVERS A DOOZY ala reverend Wright!

Video surfaces of Obama in 2007 suggesting racism slowed aid to post-Katrina New OrleansRead more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/02/video-surfaces-obama-in-2007-suggesting-racism-slowed-aid-to-post-katrina-new/#ixzz28F32io5u

Oh wait! It’s from Faux News! :lol:

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

Doggone – dammit, now I have an image of Steve Martin from Little Shop of Horrors running for office … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:09 am

I thought you were a independent? I was talking about all the money Romney and Bain made for teachers pension funds, government workers retirement funds, colleges and other huge lib organizations and you piped into that conversation. I guess your true colors are showing.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

PAUL,

All adminstrations practice this sort of self serving tactics.

Take a good look at the boards and investors in all the “green” investments using our money that have taken place to wit..

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 am

USMC – “MORE BAD NEWS BREAKING FOR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN…”

Yeah, this is horrible. http://www.electoral-vote.com/

curious

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 am

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 am
“When are some people going to figure out that the “magic 8%” number isn’t so magical?”
“Yes, great point, the true unemployment rate is closer to 16% when factor in the people who have STOPPED looking for a job”

Why are you so worried about some slug that has stopped looking for a job when all of us know there are jobs available; maybe not their “dream” job, but a job nevertheless?

USMC

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 am

DannyX

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 am

This link is not only bad news for Romney, Republicans in general aren’t doing so well.

http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

bookman parrot

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 am

Terrible unemployment and underemployment! $3.50 – $4.00 gas! Much higher food prices! Likes to be a “rock star”! but… but… but… i’m voting for him… cause i drank the kool-aid.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 am

“DEACON OBAMA DELIVERS A DOOZY ala reverend Wright!”

darlin, all that tells me is that you guys are sooooooooo desperate, that you’ll fling any kind of poo

(and you might want to read the article in question – he was right – they DIDN’T treat NO the same way they treated Florida)

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 am

USMC says “BREAKING NEWS! OBAMA IS BLACK!” and then posts a link to Drudge.

:roll:

Stupid is as stupid does.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 am

” $3.50 – $4.00 gas!”

and again I ask … why do Republicans hate the free market?

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

td – “I guess your true colors are showing.”

I am an independent. However, your comment would seem to indicate that anyone working as a teacher or as a public servant must be “libs”.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

USMC

Have you been infected by Ben Shockley? You know, that ‘troll for attention’ virus?

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:19 am

“But his depth of knowledge on any of these matters is like the Platte River, an inch deep.”

Wow, this is the pot calling the kettle black moment after claiming we live in a democracy last night.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

USMC – “Video surfaces of Obama in 2007 suggesting racism slowed aid to post-Katrina New OrleansRead more:”

Already covered that chief.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
9:25 am

USMC,

I note that more than a few media outlets picked up on this..I saw the tape and his feigned southern accent is a scream…sophomoric indeed…it was clearly a racist commentary although I don’t see it making a difference…won’t change any votes..

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 am

Yes, great point, the true unemployment rate is closer to 16% when factor in the people who have STOPPED looking for a job.

Not that you’ll listen, but yes, this same kind of point was raised years ago, during GWB’s administration, when they would claim that we were at something approaching full employment. There were always dirty effing hippies out there on the left pointing out that the typically quoted percentages didn’t include this or that category, and they’d beg people to notice that there were more Americans who were permanently discouraged or under employed, and that this was symptomatic of deeper, systematic issues…

And nobody much gave a crap then. So pardon me if I ignore your bleating today.

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 am

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

All libs. NO, run by libs, YES. Federal government workers are the top contributors to the Obama campaign.

Paul

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 am

Stevie Ray

Yeah. While back I cited the number of union pension funds, teacher funds, etc who invest in Bain Capital. Now. Not years ago. Now. One of the spokesmen said something to the effect of ‘we don’t care about the politics, we want the best return for our members.”

I’ll see if I can dig it up later if anyone wants. I’m about to head out for the gym.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 am

bookman parrot – “$3.50 – $4.00 gas!”

Since the price of fuel is controlled by the market, the only way to guarntee cost would be to nationalize the oil wells. Why are you advocating a power grab of this kind by our government? Do you actually want to live in a dictatorship?

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 am

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

USMC – “Video surfaces of Obama in 2007 suggesting racism slowed aid to post-Katrina New OrleansRead more:”

Already covered that chief.

And how long was 47% covered?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

OBAMA: THE “DAVID DUKE” PRESIDENT.

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

Video surfaces….

[Evil laugh] yes, because it was hidden on youtube before yesterday. :lol:

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 am

CURIOUS,

The numbers of underemployed and those who stopped looking are very much indeed valid variables..think about the income taxes lost as a result of those folks giving up?

I once again enjoyed Biden’s idiotic gaffe…Ryans response was spot on..

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 am

“And how long was 47% covered?”

been covering that for ages here, yet numpties still bring it up like it’s a legitimate issue.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 am

td, doubling down on the stupid this morning?

OK, it seems to “work” for you!

But please do not vote on November 6.

Just work on paying off your bet/your blog concession speech in which you tell the forum that I am smarter than you.

Seriously, gang. This is what the clown wanted , so I obliged him. He has Romney winning the election and I have BHO.

Like taking candy from a baby…

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 am

td – “And how long was 47% covered?

?????

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

USMC

Keep up….

The bombshell fizzles…..and folks are laughing (again) at Drudge and Sean.

Peadawg

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

“fling any kind of poo”

Meh…in politics, don’t dish it out if you can’t take it. The whining from both sides is hilarious.

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

Like taking candy from a baby

What if that baby is a job creator….do you have to give it back as a tax cut?

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

FWIW, I do look forward to John and Jane Q. Public scratching their heads and saying “Racism? You Republicans keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” in response to this sorry-ass October Surprise from the right.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:31 am

David Duke, now there was a guy that Mister Digits could LOVE!

A KKK background and a rabid McCarthy “I see commies everywhere!” nutjob who went to prison.

The perfect Republican!

Rosita

October 3rd, 2012
9:32 am

To the poster who quoted from Porgy and Bess: It’s the COTTON that’s high, not the water. . . .Just sayin’. ;-)

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
9:33 am

OBAMA: THE “DAVID DUKE” PRESIDENT.

Scout hit the “Post Something Retarded” key on his TRS-80 again, I see.

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
9:33 am

It’s the COTTON that’s high

and here I thought it was Sean Hannity.

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:33 am

td and TC

Is the Romney inauguration set for today? That clip really has Romney rising in the polls, right?

Figured it would be so meteoric that Obama would concede this morning and the inauguration would be on……….. Maybe it will be tomorrow or Friday.

:-)

Peadawg

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 am

“they DIDN’T treat NO the same way they treated Florida” – Exactly. It’s not racist, profiling, stereotyping, etc. if it’s true.

The comments about Rev Wright are disturbing though.

larry

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 am

yes, because it was hidden on youtube before yesterday.

Actually, it was played on MSNBC on Tucker Carlson’s show way back in 2007.

It would be laughable , if it wasnt so sad. Repubs are grasping at straws. Bless their hearts.

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 am

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

Video surfaces….

[Evil laugh] yes, because it was hidden on youtube before yesterday. :lol:

Lib Spin. Only 9 minutes (all the parts that made Obama look good) was available until yesterday. The DC has put out the unedited version and shows how Obama is playing the race pimp (Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton) and sounds a great deal like Louis Farrakhan in his statement about the white Federal Government does not care about the black NO.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 am

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 am

Stevie Ray

what exactly can he impact that is of any value today?

Anything directly related to the employment or operations of federal employees in the Executive Branch. That’s the only area he has actual impact. All other impact is either implied or non-existent IMHO.

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 am

td – “Obama is playing the race pimp (Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton) and sounds a great deal like Louis Farrakhan in his statement about the white Federal Government does not care about the black NO.”

It’s a shame that this wasn’t released 5 years ago when Obama was runing for President. Might have given McCain the boost he needed. Having said that, do we have anything CURRENT on the POTUS that might actually do some damage? Maybe Obama speaking in the last month referring to half the population as “crackers”? Now that might be a game changer.

St Simons

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 am

The Republicans should ditch the neocons, the teapotties

and the Tebow wing. cmon man. Get some dignity back. Or not

larry

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 am

HEADLINE: Stock futures rises as economy adds jobs.

Nooooooooooooo!! That’s not in the script.

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:39 am

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:29 am

Dam son you are so narcissistic and arrogant that you can not admit that you are wrong ever. I took the dang military version of the difference between a democracy and Republic and posted it for your knowledge and you still refuse to admit that you were WRONG.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 am

“Meh…in politics, don’t dish it out if you can’t take it. The whining from both sides is hilarious.”

I don’t think accusing someone of flinging poo is whining, strictly speaking

Jay

October 3rd, 2012
9:41 am

Keep Up the Good Fight! (and only seeing conned poutrage)

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 am

Lib Spin. Only 9 minutes (all the parts that made Obama look good) was available until yesterday,

Nonsense. Obama was a presidential candidate….so Fox did not have anyone covering his speech? No other reporters?

But it’s another low point in GOP campaign history smear attempts….

They BOTH suck

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 am

“Dam son you are so narcissistic and arrogant that you can not admit that you are wrong ever.”

td: you could use a dose of looking in the mirror and repeating that to yourself 10 times each morning………………….before you call others out

stands for decibels

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 am

The DC has put out the unedited version and shows how Obama is playing the race pimp

do you have any idea how batsh-t crazy terms like “race pimp” are among actual not-in-the-bag-with-the-right-wing voters?

anyway, headin’ upstairs, for more of this, looks like…

td

October 3rd, 2012
9:44 am

Butch Cassidy (I)

October 3rd, 2012
9:38 am

No need for a “game changer” moment. The race is very close and giving just 1% of the vote that different view and pushing the likeability down would be huge.

Now the real question is will 1% change their mind through social media only because the LSM seems to not be carrying the story at all (predictable)

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 am

td

Obama plays race pimp?

Pardon me…looks like you and the GOP doing the race pimping.

Again…bombshell fizzles.

Towncrier

October 3rd, 2012
9:45 am

“FWIW, I do look forward to John and Jane Q. Public scratching their heads and saying “Racism? You Republicans keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” in response to this sorry-ass October Surprise from the right.”

Another white liberal who is oblivious to the fact that there is a racist mentality among many blacks in America, and to which Obama was speaking (because he knows it). Doubt it? Let me give you one clear piece of evidence. Tavis Smiley a few years back was interviewing a young black girl who was training to be (as I recall) a boxer in the Olympics. But she was also a straight A student. Tavis asked her did she catch a lot of flack for “being white” (referring to her academic success). She replied yes, she did. So I asked a few of my closer black friends about this – did blacks really see academic success as a racial thing, as “being white”. One of them – a single mom – said “Oh, yeah…I gave up a scholarship to NYU because they were picking on me so bad”. Imagine that…forfeiting a college education at a really good school due to peer pressure.

Mighty Righty

October 3rd, 2012
9:46 am

Meanwhile, back at the White House, the Obama team of liars is discussing a need during the next term (if there is one) for a “Cover Up Czar”. The number of mis information problems this administration has is out of control. There is a definite need for more white house spokesmen to lie to the gillible. Fast and Furious, Israeli Relations, School Lunch Program, 51 new taxes under Obama Care, complete economic collapse, no new jobs, green projects all failures, Secret Whispers caught on Microphones with Russian President, a video of Racist Remarks by Senator Obama regarding New Orleans, Racist remarks regarding Cambridge, Mass. Police by Obama, Joe Biden saying the last four years have been a disaster for the middle class, More Murders by Fast and Furious Weapons in Mexico, A Foreign Polcy in collapse, the middle east on verge of all out war, Every Administration Official caught in lies about our Libyan Security, Hundreds killed in Afghanistan caused by our ignorant rules of engagement, an Administration unable to identify a “terrorist” attack, inability to identify who our enemies are, and a possibility we will have four more years of these imbeciles. Yes they need more liars to spread their mis information.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:47 am

td, you are a hopeless sophist. (look it up if you have to)

The United States of America is BOTH a democracy and republic.

What is wrong with you?

This ain’t that hard to figure out.

Ninth graders know this for godssakes.

Why do you globally cooled, anti-intellectual Republicans have such HUGE problems with this elementary concept?

It is beyond explanation, when an entire group like yours can let their perverse ideology overrun their mental faculties.

But that is where you feckless neocons are.

Tiny vocabularies, a lack of critical thinking skills and absolutist, simplistic claptrap that makes ZERO sense.

Now get busy on that speech. I want a thousand word expose on how I am intellectually superior! It was all your idea!

Brosephus™

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

Tavis Smiley a few years back was interviewing a young black girl who was training to be (as I recall) a boxer in the Olympics. But she was also a straight A student. Tavis asked her did she catch a lot of flack for “being white” (referring to her academic success). She replied yes, she did. So I asked a few of my closer black friends about this – did blacks really see academic success as a racial thing, as “being white”. One of them – a single mom – said “Oh, yeah…I gave up a scholarship to NYU because they were picking on me so bad”.

And attempting to paint an entire race/culture because of two different stories is?????? I went to a majority Black high school and college, and nobody ever talked about “being White”. We all busted our asses to get the best grades possible.

JamVet

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

The race is very close…

LOL! Except where it counts.

Are you familiar with the electoral college, democracy hater?

Your guy is getting his ass kicked there.

Better luck in 2016…

Obama Kills

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

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Smokewagon

October 3rd, 2012
10:24 am

Jamvet (O intellectually superior one)

Romney will drop Obama like a bad habit in tonight’s debates.