Man, this is so wrong on so many levels:
House Republicans in several tight races want voters to know that Democrats are the party of Wall Street.
The only problem: big banks are helping foot the bill for the ads.
The National Republican Congressional Committee’s ads in New York and North Carolina blast Democratic candidates for supporting the Wall Street bailout and allowing executives to pocket big-time bonuses, and in one case feature a banker burning money with his lit cigar.At the same time, the NRCC has taken in a record haul from investment, securities and commercial banks. So far this cycle, the industry has contributed $7.1 million — that’s up more than $2.7 million since the 2010 election, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Goldman Sachs and its employees are the top private-sector giver to the Republican Party committee, contributing $388,450 this cycle. Goldman Sachs declined to comment.
The levels of cynicism at work here are impressive. The Wall Street types, for example, clearly know who their friends are and who will protect them, and are saying so through their money. The Republicans in turn clearly know that their rich friends aren’t very popular with voters, who understandably blame Wall Street for creating the biggest financial collapse in some 80 years, and for managing to walk away with their own fortunes intact while millions of innocent people lose their jobs, homes, careers and futures. And together the GOP and its Wall Street sponsors conspire to blame it all on the Democrats, who are hardly blameless but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.
Amazing.
– Jay Bookman
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/81865.html#ixzz285goVIeh
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M
October 1st, 2012
7:06 pm
We’re post-truth.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:07 pm
…but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.
My biggest complaint against this administration.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:09 pm
“My biggest complaint against this administration”
Mine too…but I would add mishandling the bailout as well
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
7:10 pm
The bankers may be like
the teamsters, just pay
them all.
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
7:12 pm
“who are hardly blameless but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.”
Agreed. They folded when it came time to stand fast and do the hard work and heavy lifting.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:12 pm
Why not just let Wall Street run the country. WE could cut out the middlemen and end the charade altogether.
josef
October 1st, 2012
7:13 pm
What K’chak and Doggone said…mine, too…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:14 pm
From Jay’s linkee:
The situation is not sitting well with banking lobbyists in Washington. In several conversations, industry insiders and lobbyists reactions ranged from appalled to unsurprised to resigned at being the whipping boy for both Democrats and Republicans on the campaign trail.
Boo-freakin’-hoo.
Also, THIS!
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:14 pm
And together the GOP and its Wall Street sponsors conspire to blame it all on the Democrats, who are hardly blameless but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.
All the more reason that we should all be fighting tooth and nail to get money out of the election process. Next go around, the Dems will get the money and pin Wall Street on the GOP. All the while, we get screwed and they all get paid.
Orange12
October 1st, 2012
7:15 pm
I think both partys are equally guilty of the Wallstreet disaster.
The Navy is looking intto using seawater for jet fuel. I think algae was a little more believeable.
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/futureoftech/navy-aims-turn-seawater-jet-fuel-6206723
Fred ™
October 1st, 2012
7:15 pm
LOL Jay. The level of stupidity from the talk radio shows has shown that thye can and WILL get away with this. Look how many call me a Democrat when I call them on their lies JUST because I call them on their lies………
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
7:15 pm
Bro @ 7:12
They certainly have some “pull” to say the least.
To read what some of our regulars post, you would think they were powerless and almost penniless.
Granny Godzilla
October 1st, 2012
7:17 pm
And those knuckleheads think that will fly?
Sweet Lord Almighty, bless their hearts.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
7:18 pm
The President spent all his
political capital on health
care and then he was dealt
a stacked deck. He does
not seem to bluster so he
just kept quiet and took
what reform he could get.
JOSE
October 1st, 2012
7:18 pm
what do you expect when GOLDMAN SACHS people are put in positions of power by BOTH PARTIES…………..PROTECTING THE 1%
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
7:19 pm
Enter your comments here
Mr. Snarky
October 1st, 2012
7:19 pm
Wall Streeters only care about their paychecks…public opinion be damned. What a bunch of slimeballs.
Brad Steel
October 1st, 2012
7:20 pm
here is the same filthy-lucre notion represented graphically… literally. not figuratively.
Aquagirl
October 1st, 2012
7:22 pm
Why not just let Wall Street run the country.
Republicans cite Mitt’s bigshot capitalism as his #1 credential for the presidency, so why not just go right to the top of the capitalist heap?
I think you have a Republican bumper sticker there—- Wall Street/Wall Street 2016: Let’s Stop Screwing Around And Hand ‘Em The Keys
Fred ™
October 1st, 2012
7:23 pm
uh oh. With new sheets THIS late it means Jay is sleeping in. Nothing new tomorrow until WEDNESDAY lol.
arnold
October 1st, 2012
7:23 pm
Really simple solution. Some major prosecutions of Wall Street would go a long way.
Mary Elizabeth
October 1st, 2012
7:24 pm
There are only two choices – Romney or Obama.
Anyone who thinks Romney will attempt to establish policies to help the middle and lower classes more than Obama will attempt to do so is living in an upside down world of reality, and has believed Republican spin of truth for too long.
Well worth the read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/01/opinion/krugman-the-real-referendum.html?ref=paulkrugman
Last sentences from Krugman’s column in the link above: “This election is, as I said, shaping up as a referendum on our social insurance system, and it looks as if Mr. Obama will emerge with a clear mandate for preserving and extending that system. It would be a terrible mistake, both politically and for the nation’s future, for him to let himself be talked into snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.”
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:24 pm
“Republicans cite Mitt’s bigshot capitalism as his #1 credential for the presidency, so why not just go right to the top of the capitalist heap?”
Heck, he’s got a lot of money…he’s NOWHERE near the top. Those at the top probably consider him in the same light HE considers the “47%”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:24 pm
Mitt could just answer all debate questions with “If I told you, I’d have to kill you” and then do his creepy artificial laugh.
Heh, heh, heh.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
7:25 pm
Don’t like it, stop whining and change the game.
Good luck with that.
Not this generation.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:25 pm
“uh oh. With new sheets THIS late it means Jay is sleeping in”
I have a different theory. I think it means his wife is out for the evening and he’s got nothing better to do!
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
October 1st, 2012
7:25 pm
Wall Street is Democrats, Jay. You know that. If they are helping Republicans, they are only playing both sides of the market, a well known investing strategy. New York City is like Washington – hard to deviate from the liberal orthodoxy.
josef
October 1st, 2012
7:26 pm
Wall Street, Dems, GOP, banks, health care industry, insurance companies…thick as thieves literally and figuratively…money talks, and bullsh*t walks…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:27 pm
I have a different theory. I think it means his wife is out for the evening and he’s got nothing better to do!
He forgot that it was his wedding anniversary and he’s blogging from the doghouse — in the rain.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:27 pm
Aquagirl
I like that bumper sticker.
Aquagirl
October 1st, 2012
7:27 pm
Heck, he’s got a lot of money…he’s NOWHERE near the top.
Let’s pass that along for the Republicans if Mitt should lose. They’ll claim America rejected him because he wasn’t Wall-Streety enough.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
7:28 pm
Fred:
“uh oh. With new sheets THIS late it means Jay is sleeping in. Nothing new tomorrow until WEDNESDAY lol.”
Yes ……….. and then the thread will be about either “charter schools” or “MARTA/Georgia Transportation”.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
7:28 pm
P.S.
……………… or “Obama for President Campaign Thread # 244″.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:28 pm
The worst democratic republic that mountains of filthy bankster money can buy.
And dozens of brilliant men from Thomas Jefferson to FDR to Louis Brandeis warned of this very thing happening.
But neer-do-well suckers and Reganomics fools adored that character played by Michael Douglas in Wall Street and “Greed is good” won out over morality and common sense and decency…
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:29 pm
“Wall Street is
Democratsplutocrats, Jay.”Anybody that can read and think knows that they play both sides equally and really don’t give a sh*t about party affiliation. They merely play those who align with either party for suckers each and every election.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
7:31 pm
The billionaires claim they are being oppressed by this administration.
They control government with unlimited bribes then cry when a pol talks about changing it.
American politics is crazy like the gop nominee calling our President a terrorist sympathizer.
Corporate media is bought and paid for too and work for the gop.
This will not end well.
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
7:31 pm
Kinda reminds you of Louis closing up Rick’s place for gambling.
“I’m shocked, shocked I tell you…..”
Jay
October 1st, 2012
7:32 pm
Through the first three weeks of September, Knuckles, the money men had given more than twice as much to Romney than to Obama.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/us-business/in-us-campaign-an-embittered-wall-street-puts-its-money-on-romney/article4568188/?cmpid=rss1
As the post above documents, they’re also giving a lot more to congressional Republicans. And then there’s the Scott Brown/Elizabeth Warren race in Mass.:
“Scott Brown raked in more than $500,000 from employees and PACs in the financial sector in June, the most recent month of data available, a report compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics for POLITICO found. That’s more than he’s gotten from the industry in any month since the start of last year.
Brown has already received more than $3.3 million from the finance, insurance and real estate industries this cycle, according to CRP, more than any other member of Congress or congressional candidate.
Money talks, Knuckles. Money talks.
Granny Godzilla
October 1st, 2012
7:33 pm
Bro
Say it again, louder.
Thulsa Doom
October 1st, 2012
7:34 pm
“Goldman Sachs and its employees are the top private-sector giver to the Republican Party committee, contributing $388,450 this cycle. Goldman Sachs declined to comment.”
Wasn’t Goldman Obama’s single biggest contributor in 08? And didn’t Obama host a 35k a plate fundraiser at the home of the CEO of the largest equity capital firm in the world- Blackstone? Wall st. gives money to both parties all the time. And if memory serves me correctly I believe Obama got more money from Wall St. in 08 than McCain did. And btw Wall St is in a very blue city in a very blyue state
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:35 pm
“And dozens of brilliant men from Thomas Jefferson”
Well, TJ was brilliant…but not at economics. When he died he left ledgers full of spending and income, but he never bothered to total them and see what his true standing was. He was essentially a “rich” pauper when he died.
Granny Godzilla
October 1st, 2012
7:35 pm
You too Jay
Thulsa Doom
October 1st, 2012
7:38 pm
Another way of looking at it is that Wall St. has zero faith in the economy under Obama.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:38 pm
Bro, to your point, ask our so-called conservative friends what they think about the fact that BHO was the first Democrat EVER to outraise his GOP opponent in campaign contributions from BIG Business.
They won’t touch it, because they don’t care. Not one iota. They just want it to go back to the way it has always been – fat cat Republicans getting the biggest slice of that largesse from their monied “betters”.
THAT version of our perverted plutocracy is perfectly acceptable to these sell-outs.
The top six spots on Romney’s donor list are all financial firms, with Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), JPMorgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500), Morgan Stanley (MS, Fortune 500), Credit Suisse (CS) and Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) following Goldman.
…that government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations shall not perish from the earth…
Mary Elizabeth
October 1st, 2012
7:38 pm
Nevertheless, Thomas Jefferson brought down the U.S. governement’s national debt quite substantially while he held the office of President. And, that had been one of his committed goals.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:39 pm
“while millions of innocent people lose their jobs, homes, careers and futures”
No one is innocent
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:39 pm
Doom
See my 7:29
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:40 pm
HTML is a pain in my tookus…
Bro, to your point, ask our so-called conservative friends what they think about the fact that BHO was the first Democrat EVER to outraise his GOP opponent in campaign contributions from BIG Business.
They won’t touch it, because they don’t care. Not one iota. They just want it to go back to the way it has always been – fat cat Republicans getting the biggest slice of that largesse from their monied “betters”.
THAT version of our perverted plutocracy is perfectly acceptable to these sell-outs.
The top six spots on Romney’s donor list are all financial firms, with Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), JPMorgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500), Morgan Stanley (MS, Fortune 500), Credit Suisse (CS) and Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) following Goldman.
…that government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations shall not perish from the earth…
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:40 pm
“whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.”
Fannie Freddie. Nada. Before or after crisis. Bad democrats.
Orange12
October 1st, 2012
7:41 pm
Here’s another example of Bipartisan involvement and everybody blames the other guy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/01/vilvilsack-reacts-to-republican-concerns-about-mexican-nutrition-awareness/
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
7:42 pm
Thulsa: I’d have to guess that Goldman-Sachs was on board with Obama because it was evident that the McCain campaign was a walking corpse within weeks of Palin’s nomination for VP. As far as Wall Street coloration goes NYC ain’t all that blue (see Rudy Giuliani, Michael Bloomberg, and the Donald) and Wall Street itself is only one color: green. Well, except for the hard metal crowd, anyway.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:42 pm
Fannie Freddie.
Lame.
Debunked countless times.
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
7:43 pm
“And together the GOP and its Wall Street sponsors conspire to blame it all on the Democrats, who are hardly blameless but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.”
Sowell predictably sees it a little differently than you, Jay. But he’s a uncle Thomas, right? Guess what? You can both be wrong, but you can’t both be right.
But the people I would blame the most in the sense that without their interference other problems would have been within manageable means are the politicians—people in Congress and the president and regulators—who pushed the lenders and the banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into lending and buying mortgages based on people who didn’t meet standards that evolved in the marketplace and which had worked. Those politicians, in addition to that initial mistake, ignored all sorts of warnings from all sorts of sources. As I list in the book, the Economist in London, Fortune, Barron’s, people at the American Enterprise Institute, all over the map, saw that this policy of encouraging homeownership at all costs was leading to trouble.”
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:43 pm
Doggone, I make that assertion based on statements such as this one…
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
And the polar opposite of the intellectual and moral spectrum…
Don’t blame him (Bush) nobody saw it (the economic implosion of 2008) coming. ~Dick Cheney
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
7:43 pm
“ADVICE FROM THE HINDU KUSH”
Dear Governor Romney:
” ……………. I proffer a few lines you may want to use in the upcoming debates. Full disclosure here: These aren’t my ideas. This is what the brightest and bravest of this generation now in uniform hope to hear from our next president:
“If you make me your commander in chief, I will bow to God Almighty — but never to a foreign potentate.”
“I will never apologize for the blood and treasure our country has sacrificed in offering others the hope of freedom.”
“I will never send young Americans to fight in difficult and dangerous places without telling them who our enemy is and without providing them what they need for victory.”
“I will never call an act of terrorism ‘workplace violence.’”
“I will never abandon America’s steadfast allies — or demand they surrender territory essential to their very survival.”
“I will be unequivocal about ensuring that Iran cannot acquire nuclear weapons, and I assure you we will build and deploy ballistic missile defenses to defend our homeland and the American people.”
“I will never announce an arbitrary deadline for withdrawing from battle and give advantage to our adversaries.”
“I will rebuild our intelligence capabilities and won’t tolerate leaks of classified information that puts brave Americans or those who work with us at greater risk.”
“I won’t beg the Russians — or anyone else — for more “space,” saying I can be more “flexible” after an election.”
“Though I am committed to reducing the size and cost of the federal government, I will insist that Congress provide funds necessary to deter aggression, keep America’s military number one in the world and keep faith with all who have served and who now look — often in vain — for a good job.”
“Trust me; if you elect me as our next president, I will never allow our flag to be defiled with a campaign logo, nor will I ever attempt to balance our budget on the backs of those who defend our country.”
Governor, the words above are some of what America’s heroes serving far from home hope to hear you say. Please feel free to use any or all of them as your own. We’ll be watching the debates from the shadows of the Hindu Kush.”
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,250482,00.html#.UGoP6jBg7j8.hotmail
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:43 pm
This jay post is such a WATB post
Who repealed glass steagall?
Oy yeah, Clinton and Goldman partner Rubin
Thulsa Doom
October 1st, 2012
7:44 pm
Brocephus @ 7:29,
Well that about sums it all up.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:44 pm
And if you are a new age Republican, no one is guilty…
NO ONE.
(What corporate crime wave?!)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:44 pm
…who pushed the lenders and the banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into lending and buying mortgages based on people who didn’t meet standards that evolved in the marketplace and which had worked.
Lame.
Again — debunked countless times
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
7:44 pm
“Money talks, Knuckles. Money talks.”
As (presumably) it did when Obama greatly outspent McCain in 2008. Pray tell, did you pitch a fit then?
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
7:45 pm
“Another way of looking at it is that Wall St. has zero faith in the economy under Obama.”
Sure wouldn’t guess that by looking at the markets.
Thulsa Doom
October 1st, 2012
7:46 pm
Mr_B,
And you’re probably right. Obama was the horse to bet on in 08 and the Wall Streeters just bet on the right horse that year.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:46 pm
Who headed the biggest failed bank?
Oh yes, Clinton Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin was co-head of Citigroup
What a bunch of whining from libs.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:47 pm
“…who pushed the lenders and the banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into lending and buying mortgages based on people who didn’t meet standards that evolved in the marketplace and which had worked”
Never let a good lie die
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
7:47 pm
“All the more reason that we should all be fighting tooth and nail to get money out of the election process. Next go around, the Dems will get the money and pin Wall Street on the GOP. All the while, we get screwed and they all get paid.”
Agreed, Brosephus. Money and politics is an EVIL. I think that is something both liberals and conservatives could agree upon.
Thulsa Doom
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
Mr_B,
The markets took off after the announcement of QE3 because all that money has to go somewhere- equities. That’s the reason most given for the rise right after QE3 was announced anyways.
Thulsa Doom
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
Din din. This non plutocrat gonna eat.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
Democrats do love them some subprime mortgages.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
Pray tell, are you pitching a fit now?
Or Bush in 2004?
Or Bush in 2000?
Or Dole in 1996?
Or GHWB in 1992?
Or GHWB in 1988?
Or Reagan in 1984?
Or Reagan in 1980?
Of course not.
Hypocrisy, they name is Republican…
Tealiban Party
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
7:28 pm
“uh oh. With new sheets THIS late it means Jay is sleeping in. Nothing new tomorrow until WEDNESDAY lol.”
Yes ……….. and then the thread will be about either “charter schools” or “MARTA/Georgia Transportation”.
And you certainly will post some unrelated regurgitated dribble from RW talk radio or copy/paste false FWD emails…
Jay
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
“Agreed, Brosephus. Money and politics is an EVIL. I think that is something both liberals and conservatives could agree upon.
We could, except for the unfortunate fact that conservatives won’t.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:51 pm
“Money and politics is an EVIL. I think that is something both liberals and conservatives could agree upon.”
I wouldn’t. Money and politics are tools. Tools cannot be evil. Only the people who make use of them can be evil. You won’t EVER get money out of politics, or politics out of money. The trick we face is to make it as difficult as we can to keep the people who use them from corrupting them.
Tealiban Party
October 1st, 2012
7:51 pm
make that dribble – *drivel*….. lol….
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:51 pm
Jay7:48
Maybe
I think it was Obama who violated that public financing for elections pledge of his
Oh, must be my wild imagination
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
7:52 pm
“And you certainly will post some unrelated regurgitated dribble from RW talk radio or copy/paste false FWD emails…”
Well that probably is going to occur regardless of what the topic of any given article.
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
7:52 pm
“Never let a good lie die.”
I have said there are NO intellectuals on this blog. The statement you refer to as a lie was made by someone who at least could be considered to be an intellectual. He has also said other things liberals do not like, such as that gun control laws do not work. But they are lies as well I guess.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:53 pm
Let’s see.
Obama took Wall St money.
McCain took public financing.
And you think republicans are hypocrites?
Hahahaha
What a joke
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:53 pm
But the people I would blame the most in the sense that without their interference other problems would have been within manageable means are the politicians—people in Congress and the president and regulators
And I guess Mr. Sowell doesn’t want to own up to who pays the campaign bills and lobbyist bills that persuades Congress and Presidents to act as they do. As the old saying goes, follow the money.
—————
Money and politics is an EVIL. I think that is something both liberals and conservatives could agree upon.
Not all. Conservatives on the Supreme Court seem to think that money + politics = free speech. Until that mindset changes, nothing else will.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
7:55 pm
“The statement you refer to as a lie was made by someone who at least could be considered to be an intellectual.”
An intellectually acute liar is still a liar.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
7:56 pm
Bro 7:53
Sorry you don’t believe in free speech
1st amendment silly
getalife
October 1st, 2012
7:56 pm
They have to keep the military industrial complex happy too with more war.
Don’t want our military to turn on our government.
Does it end with Revolution to get socialism like Europe?
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
7:56 pm
Thulsa: QE1,2, and 3 won’t account for the steady rise since Jan.09.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
That doesn’t mean that I think that it’s all Obama’s doing either. But it doesn’t look like his presidency has been exactly bad for business.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:57 pm
jm
Quit living in 2008 and step up to 2012 with the rest of us. Damn right Republicans are hypocrites if they’re using Wall Street money to blame Democrats for the problems caused by Wall Street. Don’t forget who fought all attempts at regulating Wall Street to avoid any other catastrophic collapses.
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
7:57 pm
“We could, except for the unfortunate fact that conservatives won’t.”
I am a conservative and know more than a couple of other conservatives who feel strongly that money is corrupting of politics. Now, I bet I could find a WHOLE lot of Democrats in Congress who would be LOATHE to part with the monetary perks they are afforded in office (if their reluctance to outlaw their ability to conduct insider trading is any indication). The question is: how do WE THE PEOPLE get money out of politics without making serving in office a missionary trip?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
7:57 pm
The statement you refer to as a lie was made by someone who at least could be considered to be an intellectual.
The only “intellectual” offering little Tommy Sowell could give is where he buys his Deluxe Edition Ayn Rand Blow-Up Dolls.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
7:57 pm
There certainly are a few anti-intellectuals here!
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
7:57 pm
jm
Sorry you don’t think. Guess that makes us even.
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
7:58 pm
“The trick we face is to make it as difficult as we can to keep the people who use them from corrupting them.”
Good luck with that.
USMC
October 1st, 2012
7:59 pm
“We could, except for the unfortunate fact that conservatives won’t.”-Jay Bookman
Yeah, just ask CHRIS DODD and BAWNEY FRANK.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
Bro 7:57
I look forward to the end of 2012
As long as those Mayans or the Mayan interpreters are wrong
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:01 pm
Bro 7:57
Weak groundless insult
Try again
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
8:02 pm
“The only “intellectual” offering little Tommy Sowell could give is where he buys his Deluxe Edition Ayn Rand Blow-Up Dolls.”
Typical liberal ad hominen response (because a rational one is beyond their means). And this from a clown who self identifies as a “thug” on a political blog.
stands for decibels - race traitor
October 1st, 2012
8:03 pm
And together the GOP and its Wall Street sponsors conspire to blame it all on the Democrats, who are hardly blameless but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.
Goddess help us if the Dems’ takeaway from this clusterfoxtrot is the need for a Grand Bargain with the thievin’ bast@rds.
stands for decibels - race traitor
October 1st, 2012
8:03 pm
TC, Sowell deserves a place in Hell just for the “death panels” bullsh-t.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
8:04 pm
You want to take the HUGE corporate and shadow money out of elections?
First order of business, overturn the repulsive Citizens United ruling.
It is truly tragic to see our Supreme Court become little more than hustlers for the grifters in our new American corporatocracy…
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:04 pm
Democrats
Bought and owned by the Wall St moochers
Rubin. Orszag. Geithner. Dimon.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:04 pm
What do they want for those donations USMC?
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
8:05 pm
“Good luck with that.”
And if you think it can’t be reformed…well, that’s a self-fulfilling prophecy
Towncrier
October 1st, 2012
8:05 pm
Well, guys…hate to say it, but The Voice is a whole lot more interesting than this blog
Have a good night all.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:06 pm
Jam,
They don’t have the votes.
You will have to elect pols that promise to do that.
Orange12
October 1st, 2012
8:07 pm
When there’s money to be made, both parties are involved.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:07 pm
Libs lost again
So sad
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:08 pm
“And if you think it can’t be reformed…well, that’s a self-fulfilling prophecy”
I think we need to see many scandals before it is reformed.
Not this me generation.
Perhaps the next one.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:09 pm
Democrats would e more interesting if they were not complete and utter hypocrites, and more in favor of good government and smart regulation
Instead of big government and all regulation
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
8:10 pm
“Now, I bet I could find a WHOLE lot of Democrats in Congress who would be LOATHE to part with the monetary perks they are afforded in office ”
I’ll certainly agree with that one, TC.
One place to start would be making sure that a future Supreme Court can tell the difference between people and corporations. Another would be getting control of the costs of political advertising and equalizing them with advertising prices for other “products”. Another would be the elimination of the false distinction between campaign and issue spending.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
8:11 pm
Weak groundless insult
Try again
And if anybody here knows weak, that would be you, jm. That post was not groundless. You asserted pure bullsh*t @ 7:56, so I figured I’d post in your same mindset. If you think it’s weak, then quit posting weak stuff yourself.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
8:13 pm
“One place to start would be making sure that a future Supreme Court can tell the difference between people and corporations”
The Supreme Court is not where that needs to come from. It needs to come from Congress.
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
8:13 pm
“Yeah, just ask CHRIS DODD and BAWNEY FRANK. ”
OK, that one had to win the non-sequitur award for the evening.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:14 pm
jm thinks corporations are people.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:16 pm
Bro 8:11 getting warmer
Getalife
I believe in free speech. You not so much
Orange12
October 1st, 2012
8:16 pm
Back to the economy and bias.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/01/what-media-isnt-telling-about-our-economy/
Mr_B
October 1st, 2012
8:17 pm
Doggone: I’m not sure a congressional remedy could get past the Supremes. I think a better shot is breaking the 5-4 pro-corporate tilt in the court makeup. Which would take a Democratically controlled Senate.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:18 pm
Oj12
Definitely media bias
Just got to vote and volunteer
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
8:18 pm
“I believe in free speech. You not so much”
Translation: I would prefer you not call out my bs……….
You post it, it is up for comment
Period
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
8:19 pm
“Doggone: I’m not sure a congressional remedy could get past the Supremes.”
I could if they target it defining “personhood” properly.
Paul
October 1st, 2012
8:19 pm
As Pres Clinton said in his speech, it takes a lot of brass to blame the other guy for what you’re doing. As Jay noted, this clearly shows who Wall Street expects to protect their interests. As if the actions against Dodd-Frank weren’t evidence enough.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:19 pm
jm,
I know you are for citizen united with the rest cons.
I am against legal unlimited bribes.
It will not end well.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:20 pm
Tbs 8:18 u r silly
Talk all you want
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:20 pm
Doggone/GA
You are correct. Change
must come from Congress.
Especially the House. They
are the personal representatives of the people and can be changed
every two years. If we
continue in the same vein
our country will be fascist
in six years.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:20 pm
Tbs
Remember, I am pro free speech doofus
Fred ™
October 1st, 2012
8:20 pm
I sense Jay didn’t find my last comment amusing……… I reckon it’s a GOOD thing he doesn’t find me funny, or amusing…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
8:22 pm
Jm
Then quit crying
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:22 pm
Getalife
I have no easy solution to the problem
Banning free speech is not a solution
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:23 pm
Tbs I’m smiling twitter head
You’re funny
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
Jm
where do you find free
speech ? Singapore ?
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
Paul,
The first thing the gop will do is end Dodd Frank and cut taxes.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
Then quit crying
As if.
nelson
October 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
Now,now, now, let us not be too hard on Wall St. They want to protect the American way of investing and growing with America. Democrats simply do not understand, that all the over the top stimulus money allowed the CEOs to bail out with a golden parachute supplied by PrezO. Republicans believe in the work ethic, a good days wage for a good days work. Not this sit back and share the wealth with everybody, republicans like to work and get ahead not just wait for, should I say it[socialism].
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
Doggone/GA @ 7;51
“Money and politics is an EVIL. I think that is something both liberals and conservatives could agree upon.”
“I wouldn’t. Money and politics are tools. Tools cannot be evil. Only the people who make use of them can be evil.”
I think we “may” have found something to agree on.
Money is just like a car or a handgun. Nothing evil about it ………… unless it falls in the wrong hands.
“For the LOVE (emphasis added) of money is a root of all kinds of evil.” I Timothy 6:10
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
Frog 8:24 nope
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
8:25 pm
Jm
You are right. I forgot, Jay burped you. You are good for at least a week
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
8:26 pm
Fred
That was a great scene.
Boris Badnoff
October 1st, 2012
8:26 pm
Breaking News! Reports of The Messiah Phone in the US have spread to Venezuela where their citizens are demanding their Hugo Phones.
http://www.noticias24.com/fotos/noticia/2277/impactantes-fotos-aereas-de-la-avenida-bolivar/
Hugo has endorsed Our Beloved Messiah. This is the key to the election. I love my Messiah Phone. I just called the White House and got a recorded message from Our Beloved Messiah: This is Your Beloved Messiah. I can’t talk right now because I’m either playing golf, causing the seas to recede, or getting my shoes shined by Jay Bookman. But, if you’ll leave your number, I have one of my czars send you another Messiah Phone. Ain’t life great!
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
8:26 pm
Republicans believe in the work ethic…
Hands down the chuckle of the evening.
Kudos, satirist…
National Anthem
October 1st, 2012
8:27 pm
I’m a moocher, you’re a moocher, we’re all moochers, so the status quo is all good!
Wheeeee.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:27 pm
Jm
no free speech in Singapore?
may be their secret to
success.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:29 pm
Frog, they have free speech, not as much as America though
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
8:30 pm
As Jay noted, this clearly shows who Wall Street expects to protect their interests. As if the actions against Dodd-Frank weren’t evidence enough.
Yuuuuuupppppp!!!!!
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:31 pm
frog,
jm does not even want to be an American so his opinion does not matter.
Not sure why he even blogs when he want to live in another country.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:31 pm
Jm
where is speech free in the
US ?
TaxPayer
October 1st, 2012
8:31 pm
Nothing the cons do is “amazing”. They lack the intellect required to do something amazing. They’re predictably boring, in fact.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:31 pm
Jay needs to get out in the woods more
I think he was more center-left after his fishing trip, more happy go lucky
Atlanta would make most people unhappy
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:32 pm
Frog 8:31
Look at your screen silly
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:33 pm
getalife
I don’t think Jm wants to
leave America.
Jay
October 1st, 2012
8:33 pm
“As (presumably) it did when Obama greatly outspent McCain in 2008. Pray tell, did you pitch a fit then?”
So let me get this straight: You’re trying to cite Wall Street’s reversal of financial support in the four years since 2008 AGAINST the Democrats as evidence that the Dems do Wall Street’s bidding?
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:35 pm
Jm
speech on this blog is
regulated by Jay, the AJC
and some government
agencies.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:36 pm
Jay 8:33
Ain’t it great
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:37 pm
“They’re predictably boring, in fact”
True.
frog,
He probably can’t afford Singapore so he is stuck in Florida.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:39 pm
getalife
he may live near an asian
buffet.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:39 pm
Frog 8:35 meh. Laissez faire
You can buy a printer and write whatever you want
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:40 pm
getalife
he may occasionally drink
a singapore sling.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:42 pm
frog,
All you can eat for 9.99.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:42 pm
Frog
Asian buffet everywhere now
China has invaded
Via general Tso chicken
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:42 pm
Jm
try that. say the wrong thing
and the courts will change
your mind. shout on the
street corner and go to
jail.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:45 pm
Jm
General Tso has hot chicken.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:46 pm
Frog
If street corner shouting was a problem, woodruff would be a lot emptier
Thomas
October 1st, 2012
8:47 pm
Money talks, Knuckles. Money talks
Yes it does says George Soros and the liberal super pacs
Take a breath Bookman – keep working- actually start working- and you could be Bill Maher and donate a million to your super hero
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:47 pm
getalife
9.99 with crab legs too.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:47 pm
frog,
I had that for dinner.
Marty Huggins'
October 1st, 2012
8:48 pm
Jay,
Didn’t you cite Wall Street giving more money to Obama in ‘08 as a sign that wall street had confidence in Obama and all?
Why is it now not an endorsement of who would be better for the economy?
Like it was in ‘08?
Seems to me wall street plays both sides of the fence.
But like everything else it is only bad when the other side does it or benefits from it.
Mary Elizabeth
October 1st, 2012
8:50 pm
About money and “evil.” The problem with money is that sometimes those who have much of it – and sometimes even those who do not have it – sometimes think that those who have money are superior to others because of their having money. I cannot accept that as truth.
FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt, each, had inherited money, yet they did not appear to perceive that they were superior to others because of their wealth or status (Warms Springs/ polio victims, S.S. for all, Eleanor’s leaving the DAR/Marian Anderson ), yet President George W. Bush (”the haves and the have mores”), and Govenor Romney (”47% feel they are ‘entitled’ “) appear to perceive that they are superior to the less “fortunate” because of their wealth and accompanying status.
To me, the innate quality of each person, mentioned above, shows in his or her perception of what makes people equal.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
8:51 pm
Thomas,
Maher did not ask for anything in return.
We know they got a bailout and lower taxes.
What else do they want from those donations for a return on that investment?
What is their end game?
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:51 pm
Getalife, if you had frog for dinner, barking is probably upset
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:53 pm
getalife
on the Russian Chinese
Border when the locusts
came the Russians starved
the Chinese ate locusts.
They cook everything. No
raw food.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:54 pm
“FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt, each, had inherited money, yet they did not appear to perceive that they were superior to others”
Oh hogwash
And Obama is the crown prince of the superiority complex
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:56 pm
Jm
frog is bad for you.
G Mare
October 1st, 2012
8:57 pm
Re last topic: I have an absentee ballot. In order to get it, I had to download an application form from GA Board of Elections, fill it out, & mail it back. I did that, & received my ballot. I surmise (never assume) that my voting registration & record here since 1975 was proof enough. Could one of my kids have done this & voted fraudulently in my name? Yes.
Point being, there are flaws in the system, BUT are the flaws really serious enough to warrant disenfranchising thousands of voters? My answer: NO.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
8:57 pm
Frog
“eat more chicken”?
Tundra Dude
October 1st, 2012
8:58 pm
Don’t blame him (Bush) nobody saw it (the economic implosion of 2008) coming. ~Dick Cheney
Actually, those who did got very little publicity. Peter Schiff wrote his book on the upcoming crash in 2005.
In ‘06 he was roundly ridiculed by a panel of pom-pom waving morons on Faux News.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
8:58 pm
Jm
General Tso is a good man.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
9:00 pm
And Obama is the crown prince of the superiority complex
And we all know that the king would be the one to recognize the prince.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:00 pm
Frog
He makes good food
Related to Colonel Sanders
MRE’s must inspire soldiers
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:02 pm
Bro 9
Yes, the media as a superiority complex too
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:03 pm
Jm
Nevet had an MRE but C
rations in Japan inspired
me to eat more local food.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 1st, 2012
9:03 pm
Well, all I know is my 401k is going up, up, up. Must be the GOP House or maybe people are drinking alot more beer to get steadied up for 4 more years of Obama. So I say leave Wall Street alone. They get a new mansion as a bonus and I get a couple more percent return on my 401k. Sounds fair to me. Just tell me when to drop my pants and how far to bend over. Everything’s about the same as it always was.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
9:05 pm
jm
I wasn’t referring to the media. I was referring to you. Anybody reading your posts can see that you never see yourself as having a remote possibility of being wrong. You’re so right so often that you probably can take a dump and think your turds smell like strawberries.
You, of all people, should never talk of superiority complexes or hubris without taking a look in the mirror.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:07 pm
RC,
Sorry Romney didn’t pick
you. You would have been
much better than Ryan.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:09 pm
“You’re so right so often that you probably can take a dump and think your turds smell like strawberries.”
That was funny. Cause they do.
Brosephus™
October 1st, 2012
9:10 pm
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
9:11 pm
“Yes, the media as a superiority complex too”
Fox news, talk radio, the numerous write leaning sites as well or just the “librul” media?
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:11 pm
Let’s see. Who has more chutzpah?
The guy who says the supreme court is wrong, or the one who says there are no easy answers to the free speech – politics – money issue?
I’d go with the former (bro).
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:13 pm
Tbs 9:11 all dem fourth estate yuppies
Don't Tread
October 1st, 2012
9:13 pm
Democrats get their fair share of cash from Wall Street and Big Business. The alphabet media and celebrities kick in the difference, both in cash contributions and non-cash contributions (endorsements, free press, etc.), which may be worth more than the cash contributions.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:17 pm
Wall Street speculation has
caused most if not all the
US financial crises. Yet we
cut them loose again.
Re-regulate. Keep the
traders. Boot the raiders.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 1st, 2012
9:19 pm
RC,
Sorry Romney didn’t pick
you. You would have been
much better than Ryan.
Well, it’s just as well, frog. I wouldn’t fit in up there. No one wants a VP that wears coveralls and looks around for a spittoon when he goes someplace. Besides, if Romney wanted me to show up for a White House dinner I’d show up around noon, and they don’t even eat supper up there. And I’d be worse than Cheney in telling senators what to kiss and where. Besides, I’d have to abandon a fine
bunch of drunksclientele here to go take a office somebody said wasn’t worth a bucket of warm spit.Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
9:20 pm
celebrities kick in the difference, both in cash contributions and non-cash contributions (endorsements, free press, etc.), which may be worth more than the cash contributions.
Icon envy.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:21 pm
Frog 9:17
I’m in favor of intelligent banking regs
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
9:21 pm
Don’t Tread
While Obama does get huge donations from some of the very people he cries about, I believe he leads in smaller donations as well………
So I would say his donor’s economic level demographics is more evenly dispersed than Romney’s donors. Note: more evenly is not even.
Both candidates get huge sums from the “big boys”…….
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
9:25 pm
Dont Tread
What I am trying to say is that Obama appears to be doing a better job at reaching the “masses” and not just the “moochers” as the narrative is expressed by many on the right.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:25 pm
Jm
Without them chaos is what
you get.
Don't Tread
October 1st, 2012
9:26 pm
“I would say his donor’s economic level demographics is more evenly dispersed than Romney’s donors”
Well I guess I should send Romney $10 just to even that out a little.
They BOTH suck
October 1st, 2012
9:29 pm
Don’t Tread
I do not donate to any candidate or party. I never miss voting, however they all seem to raise plenty of money without my assistance, but you go right ahead.
I prefer to donate to charities and a Christmas fund for the needy sponsored by the church my mom attends
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:29 pm
Frog
Chaos is the natural state
There is only the illusion of order
That said, banking is the economic equivalent of a utility and deserves to be well regulated
Ironically, Obama has done several things to make the banking system riskier in the future
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:31 pm
Most of the political donations
go to the media.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 1st, 2012
9:32 pm
Well I guess I should send Romney $10 just to even that out a little.
Why don’t you go the celebrity endorsement route, since as you say, it may be worth more.
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:34 pm
Jm
The Investment bankers
regulated themselves when
they accepted the bank
charters to get TARP.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:38 pm
Frog 9:34 agreed
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:42 pm
Jm
you in florida ?
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:43 pm
Frog yawp
Was on the ATL last weekend tho
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:43 pm
In
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
9:45 pm
“A new survey shows Mitt Romney with a commanding lead over President Barack Obama among doctors, with Obamacare helping to sway their votes.”
Oh those “eeeevilllll” doctors !
barking frog
October 1st, 2012
9:48 pm
I’m in holiday 5 miles from
Tarpon Springs and it is
pouring rain. Think i’ll say
so long from the frog on
the blog at the bottom of
the AJC.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
9:51 pm
Frog
I’m on the east coast N of Miami
Batten down the hatches.
USMC
October 1st, 2012
9:55 pm
“You, of all people, should never talk of superiority complexes or hubris without taking a look in the mirror.”–That Bama Fan
-Says the Alabama Crimson Tide Fan!
Replicant
October 1st, 2012
9:56 pm
Nukes are bad.
RAMZAD
October 1st, 2012
9:57 pm
Democrats are just so wimpish. They allow Republican propaganda to run unchecked, and sit back and jut allow these things to happen. The story about Republicans caught voter registering only Romney supporters is suppose to be on every network every day, but there is almost no mention of
it.
I am delighted that Republicans are so desperate that they are resorting to bribes, cheating, crookery, voter suppression, the Liberal Media conspiracy, attacks on pollsters for imaginary skewed surveys and sampling.
I wish Democrats would wake up and smell the Revolution.
G Mare
October 1st, 2012
10:02 pm
Redneck convert@9:19, smile!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
10:03 pm
Replicant:
Nukes have kept us from WW III, WW IV and probably WW V.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
10:04 pm
USMC:
The August 2012 issue of VFW Magazine had a great article about the “last” Infantry Unit to leave Vietnam.
The article noted it was a unit from the 3rd Bn., 21st Infantry, 25th Infantry Division (U.S. Army) which left in August of 1972.
We know the Marines were the first “infantry” when they landed in Da Nang in 1965. Now check out this letter from the October
2012 issue of VFW Magazine:
“I was a Marine infantry platoon leader with “K” Co., 3rd Bn., 9th Marines, based on Okinawa. From May to August 1972, we
(a Marine infantry company) were stationed at Bien Hoa Air Base in a support mode. Because no Marine riflemen were supposed
to be in Vietnam then, my MOS (0369) was changed to air wing security. E.A. Sulweski, Toledo, Ohio”
It figures ………………..
Anyway, we all know Marines were the last to lift off the roof of the embassy on April 30, 1975.
Semper Fi !!
Replicant
October 1st, 2012
10:08 pm
Número 0311
In the wrong hands, they could end the world. They should be reduced and or eliminated.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
10:10 pm
Replicant:
Reduced is fine but never eliminated.
They keep the barbarians at the gate !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
10:10 pm
Headline: “Egyptian women fear regression on rights”
Come on ladies …………… take a big, deep breath of that “Arab Spring” !!!
getalife
October 1st, 2012
10:12 pm
scout lives him some dictators but not freedom.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
10:15 pm
We stand for freedom not dictators scout.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
10:15 pm
“scout lives him some dictators but not freedom.”
getalife: Where did you go to school? That’s not even a correct/complete sentence !
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
10:15 pm
here kitty kitty
meow meoooow
cat lovers must see:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-47912034001/the_presidents_of_the_united_states_of_america_kitty_official_music_video/
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:16 pm
313 MPG, production VW. Detroit, you’re behind again.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/01/vw-bulli-production-hopes-dead-313-mpg-xl1-coming-next-year/
Mary Elizabeth
October 1st, 2012
10:17 pm
Continuation of thoughts on money and “evil.”
Once societal norms are accepted that those who have money are superior, then it follows that CEO’s and mangement of corporations are superior to workers as human beings, or that the powerful in governmental circles are superior to voters. Both of these perceptions are not consistent with this nation’s original tenets that “all are created equal.”
These perceptions of superiority of CEOs in the business world, or of the powerful in governments must be refuted by public declaration of ordinary people, as I am doing this evening.
“I have often inquired of myself what great principle or idea it was that kept this Confederacy so long together. It was not the mere matter of separation of the colonies from the motherland, but that sentiment in the Declaration of Independence which gave liberty not alone to the people of this country, but hope to all the world, for all future time.”
Abraham Lincoln, Extemporaneous Address in Philadephia, February 22, 1861
Source: “The American Creed: A Biography of the Declaration of Independence,” by Forrest Church
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:22 pm
Mary Elizabeth
No one has stated CEO’s are “superior”, as you so indelicately state.
“Created equal” does not mean we must all live out life the same way as Liberals see fit.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:24 pm
“I have often inquired of myself what great principle or idea it was that kept this Confederacy so long together. It was not the mere matter of separation of the colonies from the motherland, but that sentiment in the Declaration of Independence which gave liberty not alone to the people of this country, but hope to all the world, for all future time.”
If only Obama understood these words
Wilbur
October 1st, 2012
10:26 pm
Obama and the dems took FAR more money from big wall street bankers in 2008 than the republicans even as they bashed the republicans for being in the pockets of the banks. The irony of Jay’s complaint is as rich as his hypocrisy.
The good news is that Jay is familiar with the position.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:31 pm
VA oopsie
http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2012/10/01/va-wasted-762000-on-training-conferences/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
10:31 pm
Jm:
“Created equal” to libs. simply means “shared misery” ………… except of course for the wealthy elite libs.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
10:33 pm
Obama and the dems took FAR more money from big wall street bankers in 2008 and the GOP took FAR more money from big wall street bankers in 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984 and 1980. And will do so again in 2012.
Now what was that about hypocrisy, Wilbur?
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
10:34 pm
Geeze,welcome to the 21st century.
Money is not evil.
People are evil.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:35 pm
Scout
Yes, created equal does not mean we all end up the same
Silly liberals
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:36 pm
Jammies
VA money to part it down….. Wheeee
getalife
October 1st, 2012
10:36 pm
“Second AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight Returns To JFK After Row Of Seats Comes Loose.” drusgey spam.
.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:37 pm
Party
getalife
October 1st, 2012
10:38 pm
con logic, the dems do it so it is okay.
Brilliant cons.
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
10:40 pm
I only speak English. Not Billboardese.
Tell it to your bumper sticker buddy. He’ll get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8iUI_ayuo
getalife
October 1st, 2012
10:41 pm
I will take you to school scout.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:41 pm
” , the dems do it”
Of course they do
Bill C does anyway
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
10:42 pm
““Second AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight Returns To JFK After Row Of Seats Comes Loose.” drusgey spam”
I’m curious…why do you do that for legitimate news stories? I heard that one just this evening on Atlanta channel 9
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:44 pm
“I will take you to school scout”
I think scout has already graduated and has a car of his own (I’d guess)
But that’s nice of you….
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 1st, 2012
10:46 pm
“…but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.”
***********************
As if it would have mattered with Mitch McConnell & House republicans vowing to see to it Obama is a 1 term president at all costs. They would have effectively blocked anything more meaningful than what did get done. Even if it meant more people loss their jobs, homes, careers and futures. This is not in dispute. McConnell is there on youtube for all to see.
That for me was the moment I gave up on the GOP. I voted for McCain in 2008. But the idea of the GOP to put this as the number 1 agenda above all else was so repulsive I finally said enough. The GOP is not working for me. Their unwillingness to compromise to the point of harming those they are supposed to serve is all I need to know about the GOP and the rich bisturds that control them. Never again. I am gone and will not be back.
Jm
October 1st, 2012
10:48 pm
Getalife and scout carpooling
That’s a visual….
JamVet
October 1st, 2012
10:49 pm
I remember when Republicans did not so outwardly hate this country and they occasionally had something good to say about her, her people and her government.
But now?
No way.
The worst of the worst…
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
10:55 pm
Off topic, but, does anyone remember like 2 years ago when Jay lost a bet to a poster “jt” and they were supposed to have lunch on Jay?
Did Jay ever take jt “jumping turtle” out to lunch?
That would be hilarious to hear that conversation.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:01 pm
“I’m curious…why do you do that for legitimate news stories?”
Just messing with Scout.
I tried to stop him from just posting drudge and use original thought on the topic but he refused.
jm,
“Bill C does anyway.”
He needs donations for his foundation to help people in the world.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:03 pm
What was the bet moonbat?
Ahem
October 1st, 2012
11:04 pm
Bookman: “Through the first three weeks of September, Knuckles, the money men had given more than twice as much to Romney than to Obama.”
They know who is going to win.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
11:08 pm
“I tried to stop him from just posting drudge and use original thought on the topic but he refused”
Yeah? Well you should have learned a LONG time ago that you’re wasting you time and effort. All you are REALLY accomplishing is to annoy the rest of us. I skip over posters I don’t like. As far as I’m concerned you’re getting real close to joining that list.
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
11:08 pm
getalife:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zjADAK4ODg
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:08 pm
“I remember when Republicans did not so outwardly hate this country and they occasionally had something good to say about her, her people and her government.”
I remember too.
Imagine if the Dems played politics right after 9/11 like the gop are doing with Libya.
You would hear them screaming about being unpatriotic and anti American.
I guess they peaked being Americans back then and now are just a hate group.
Ahem
October 1st, 2012
11:09 pm
Did Jay ever take jt “jumping turtle” out to lunch?
Doubtful. Jay is a liberal and they usually lie; welch; or both.
Nothing personal, Jay.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
11:09 pm
getalife:
“I will take you to school scout.”
Now “that’s” a complete sentence. You are improving.
P.S. I can’t help it if you sometimes don’t like the MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, CBS headlines that Drudgeypoo posts. But rest assured, I will continue to make sure you have the opportunity to read them !
Still raining here …………. Wow !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
11:12 pm
getalife:
It should be gop “is” doing.
You need a question mark after Libya.
It should be anti-American.
Ahem
October 1st, 2012
11:12 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
11:09 pm
Ain’t it fun pushing their buttons. Keep the heat on, Brother. They are facing certain defeat.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:12 pm
“As far as I’m concerned you’re getting real close to joining that list”
Didn’t know you had a list but after the election I won’t post much.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:14 pm
scout,
Feel free to grade my posts.
It beats your mindless drudgy spam.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
11:14 pm
“Didn’t know you had a list but after the election I won’t post much”
That doesn’t do much to make your “message” any less annoying NOW.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
11:15 pm
Headline: “Black mob hijacks store: ‘We own this’ ”
Well, here you go. Class warfare in action.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/black-mob-hijacks-store-we-own-this/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
11:16 pm
Ahem:
…………………….
)
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 1st, 2012
11:16 pm
Jay is probably in bed. Like I will be shortly. Not in the same bed in case anyone would want to go there. But it would seem a better time to query him on whether or not he fulfilled a bet obligation would be in the morning. I suspect he would have as I also suspect Kyle would. Guys like Jay and Kyle probably enjoy a civil debate.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 1st, 2012
11:16 pm
getalife:
“Feel free to grade my posts.”
Oh, I will.
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
11:16 pm
getalife:
I thought the bet was lunch.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:17 pm
Doggone/GA ,
How am I annoying you?
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:18 pm
moonbat,
That explains it.
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
11:19 pm
“How am I annoying you?”
If you can’t figure that out from what I’ve said in the last few minutes you aren’t as smart as I’ve been giving you credit for.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:21 pm
Doggone/GA ,
That is not a reason. Please explain yourself.
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
11:23 pm
getalife, let LSU humiliate the Gators in the Swamp.
Hope to see you in the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwPRm5UMe1A
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
11:24 pm
“That is not a reason. Please explain yourself”
I guess you aren’t as smart as I thought.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:25 pm
Doggone/GA ,
If you are going to insult me give a reason
Doggone/GA
October 1st, 2012
11:29 pm
“If you are going to insult me give a reason”
No
Oscar
October 1st, 2012
11:30 pm
I always thought being called annoying by someone who disagrees with me to be a compliment.
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
11:33 pm
how sweet.
getalife and Doggone are playing cutesy wootsey games. lol!
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
11:33 pm
Has anyone seen WALL-E?
Oscar
October 1st, 2012
11:34 pm
As far as Jay’s pi9ece is concerned. What else would anyone expect. Par for the course.
This is a high stakes election year.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:35 pm
Oscar,
Well, that was the point and the reason Kam does it too.
Oscar
October 1st, 2012
11:35 pm
Don’t remember ever seeing Wall-E. We must have different schedules.
Oscar
October 1st, 2012
11:37 pm
Don’t really understand Kam and why he does what he does. Don’t see it being productive. Only counter productive.
getalife
October 1st, 2012
11:38 pm
It is annoying .
moonbat.
Who is wall e?
Oscar
October 1st, 2012
11:39 pm
I know what a Wall-eye is.
moonbat betty
October 1st, 2012
11:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVzXYEU3Bk
Oscar
October 1st, 2012
11:44 pm
moonbat
__
Now I find that music annoying.
Towncrier
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 am
“So let me get this straight: You’re trying to cite Wall Street’s reversal of financial support in the four years since 2008 AGAINST the Democrats as evidence that the Dems do Wall Street’s bidding?”
No…I was responding to your general assertion that “money talks”. You do remember saying that don’t you? Liberals need to stop whining about how much Romney has “raked in” compared to Obama if they are not going to acknowledge that Obama, BY CHOICE, took a path that allowed him to outspend McCain. Since you liberals love “fact checkers” so much, maybe citing one on this point will obviate any potential deflection:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/06/obama_reneges_on_public_financ.html
Just say NO to the Charter School Amendment
October 2nd, 2012
1:09 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ACS4PgDFA
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 2nd, 2012
4:00 am
Oscar@11:37
+1
seabeau
October 2nd, 2012
4:55 am
And all this time I thought that the real cause for the collapse was Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac and Barney Frank,a Democrat!
Jimmy62
October 2nd, 2012
6:02 am
Funny, I don’t remember you complaining when Goldman Sachs gave Obama lots of money.
I and many other Tea Party types have been calling Goldman Sachs one of the biggest villians in all of this, and pointed out how many former Goldman Sachs people were behind the bailouts and current fiscal policy. But it’s only when they donate money to Romney that you notice.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 2nd, 2012
6:53 am
Good Tuesday morning to all y’all! Well wishes all around!
Off topic but this is sorta cool…I wonder how the GOP Christians feel about this…
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20121002/US.Souls.to.the.Polls/
AU Liberal in ATL
October 2nd, 2012
6:58 am
No surprises in this story. The glaring, blatant hypocrisy of the GOP has been their mainstay for years. As long as they continue to tow the ideological line their supporters are fine with. It doesn’t really matter what they do as long as they say what the sheep want to hear. Sheep aren’t the smartest animals in the barnyard.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
7:17 am
Nukes have kept us from WW III, WW IV and probably WW V.
Nukes don’t kill, people kill.
Jack
October 2nd, 2012
7:19 am
Money talks: An entirely new concept. Thanks, Bookman, I’d've never guessed that.
hiram
October 2nd, 2012
7:20 am
Chance of Winning if Election held today (Now-cast)
Obama – 97.8%
Romney – 2.2%
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/
“Nate Silver’s November 2008 presidential election predictions—he correctly predicted the winner of 49 of the 50 states. The only state he missed was Indiana, which went for Barack Obama by 1%. He also correctly predicted the winner of all 35 Senate races that year.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Silver
hiram
October 2nd, 2012
7:25 am
Further discussion is not necessary – it’s over.
Now the seats are all empty
Let the roadies take the stage
Pack it up and tear it down…
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
7:27 am
Lyin’ Eric. Well what did you expect. After all, he is a Republican.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
7:31 am
It will be interesting to see after the debates if Obama continues to beat Romney like a drum, or if the debates will lessen the blows to a simple smack up side the head. http://www.electoral-vote.com/
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
7:37 am
I wish Democrats would wake up and smell the Revolution.
As I’ve said a gazillion times: it doesn’t work that way, because that’s not where the money is.
When the Republicans make a harder right turn, the Democrats aren’t incentivized to stick to their stated progressive principles. They instead become more corporate and wh0rish. To expect them to behave differently is childish.
So when the Goopers go farther to the right, the Dems go right as well, because it is a) more profitable to them, and b) more socially acceptable.
This ain’t rocket science.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
7:40 am
Taxpayer
Good Morning!
I saw that Eric Cantor thing.
It’s an entirely new addition to the Republi-speak dictionary.
Voting for something you really don’t like is – according to the GOP -
not voting for it.
Greg
October 2nd, 2012
7:40 am
I do not understand the military voting problem. The military had no problem getting me to buy a U.S. Savings bond each month. They had no problem getting me to attend a politiical correctness meeting . They had no problem getting me to do anything. But they cannot seem to find a way to get ALL votes in on time . I don’t get it.
DownInAlbany
October 2nd, 2012
7:46 am
I guess it would be too much to ask that you report on the fact that JP Morgan has collected $100’s of million to process EBT cards (food stamp debit cards)? Oh yeah, JPM supports Democratic candidates…never mind.
Family First
October 2nd, 2012
7:52 am
Thanks for keeping us informed Mr. Bookman. Recently I have had to travel several miles away to take care of a sick relative. I enjoy reading your columns and staying abreast of current events!!
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
7:55 am
DownInAlbany @ 7.46, blogspot.com is, as always, ready when you are.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
7:57 am
Somehow I’d missed this heartwarming tale of compassionate conservatism:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/cindy-nerger-kroger-food-stamps_n_1911069.html?utm_hp_ref=business
One Georgia woman is on the front lines of the battle for the 47 percent.
Kroger, America’s largest grocery chain, has transferred one of its store managers after customer Cindy Nerger accused the manager of mocking her for using food stamps, local news outlet 13WMAZ reports. Last week, she says, the manager told Nerger that her purchases weren’t covered by food stamps. The manager later acknowledged that food stamps covered all the items in Nergers’ cart, but reportedly went on to say, “Well excuse me that I work for a living and don’t rely on food stamps like you.”
Nerger spends 12 hours a day on dialysis and has been waiting for a kidney transplant for years, according to an earlier 13WMAZ article. Her family relies on the income of her husband, who only works part time so he can care for her.
She’s just one example of the many Americans propped up by the U.S. food stamp program, one of many government safety net options to become a hot button issue during the election season. Food stamp use has spiked 51 percent since October 2008, hitting an all-time high in June, according to a Department of Agriculture report released earlier this month.
Despite the growing number of Americans relying on government assistance to feed their families, Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan has proposed slashing food stamp spending and turning it into a block grant program.
one and only
October 2nd, 2012
7:57 am
your up and at them early, bet we beat you, getting up at 4am. crazy
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:00 am
And all this time I thought that the real cause for the collapse was Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac and Barney Frank,a Democrat!
Help is available if you’re willing to seek it, seabeau.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:02 am
DownInAlbany
October 2nd, 2012
7:46 am
I guess it would be too much to ask that you report on the fact that JP Morgan has collected $100’s of million to process EBT cards (food stamp debit cards)? Oh yeah, JPM supports Democratic candidates…never mind.
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WELL isn’t that ironic.
AS most recepients are caucasian and most of it goes to red states….
You folks down in Albany must love ya’ some JPM, ey what?
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:06 am
Granny, 8:02,
“most recipients are caucasian “…… what the hell does that have to do with the discussion?
Tall
October 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
….”Goldman Sachs and its employees are the top private-sector giver to the Republican Party committee, contributing $388,450 this cycle. Goldman Sachs declined to comment….”
That’s still about $600k less than President Obama raised from GS in the last election. By the way, has anyone seen Jon Corzine?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
Kayaker 71
What the hell do YOU think it has to do with a discussion on EBT
prompted by a snotty post?
GT
October 2nd, 2012
8:11 am
This is where the debates center, no rehearsing in the world can right this untruth.
I love how the press set both parties as liar against liar in this debate. Romney has taken to the mats for the last month preparing for these debates. His handlers are saying he is memorizing facts and arguments, I think he is trying to learn to control the flow of the conversation. At the end of this debate, similar to Newt Gingrich controlling the South Carolina debates and John King, the conclusion will be a draw, which for Romney is a win. Both candidates will regurgitate their lines and the American public will be left to decide not what is true but what they wish was true. The GOP wins that contest every time because they are given equal weight with their mistruth as the Democrats are given with the truth. The public is left to decide, usually with little other information, than what is filtered though these debates. Romney is training to deliver noise and as little truth and facts as possible the same way he runs his campaign. The old bar fly talking to a pick up candidate, lets not talk about me I am interested in you.
I am hoping instead, very much like Clinton did in the convention speech, that Obama articulates Wall Street contribution to this mess. Obama needs to tell the American public that the GOP has a lot of brass producing a mess and blaming it on the next man in the kitchen. Romney will take O’s breath away lying directly to the camera and daring Obama to challenge it. I have great faith in my president but the GOP have a half of billion dollars riding on Romney being able to lie to the American public and get away with it.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
So if I read these comments correctly, the “Obama is a socialst” mantra must have been a lie. Or, are the party faithful suggesting that capitalistic corporations make it a habit of supporting socialist candidates? Which is it kids?
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
Just some food for thought. Would we be better off if we didn’t encourage adults to wear bike helmets?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunday-review/to-encourage-biking-cities-forget-about-helmets.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
I did something extraordinary, something I’ve not done in a quarter-century of regular bike riding in the United States: I rode off without a helmet.
I rode all day at a modest clip, on both sides of the Seine, in the Latin Quarter, past the Louvre and along the Champs-Élysées, feeling exhilarated, not fearful. And I had tons of bareheaded bicycling company amid the Parisian traffic. One common denominator of successful bike programs around the world — from Paris to Barcelona to Guangzhou — is that almost no one wears a helmet, and there is no pressure to do so.
In the United States the notion that bike helmets promote health and safety by preventing head injuries is taken as pretty near God’s truth. Un-helmeted cyclists are regarded as irresponsible, like people who smoke. Cities are aggressive in helmet promotion.
But many European health experts have taken a very different view: Yes, there are studies that show that if you fall off a bicycle at a certain speed and hit your head, a helmet can reduce your risk of serious head injury. But such falls off bikes are rare — exceedingly so in mature urban cycling systems.
On the other hand, many researchers say, if you force or pressure people to wear helmets, you discourage them from riding bicycles. That means more obesity, heart disease and diabetes. And — Catch-22 — a result is fewer ordinary cyclists on the road, which makes it harder to develop a safe bicycling network. The safest biking cities are places like Amsterdam and Copenhagen, where middle-aged commuters are mainstay riders and the fraction of adults in helmets is minuscule.
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:13 am
Granny, 8:10,
So, “snotty posts” are a sign that someone is pulling the race card? Albany didn’t mention race in this post……. you did. Looks like your skin is a little thin on this issue, nes-ce-pas?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:16 am
Bottom line
Wall Street supported President Obama because they took McCain at his word, “* “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” (December 2007)
They understood McCain would not be able to stop the economy from falling over the cliff.
Jump ahead 4 years and with the economy improving, Wall Street switches their loyalties – because they take Romney at his word. “Corporations are people my friends”
Wall street is wise enough to know which side of the bread has their
rich creamy butter.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
Kayaker 71
I get you don’t do nuance, but the race card was already on the table.
Mr. Silly Pants.
indigo
October 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
Anyone who has a reasonable amount of common sense and keeps up with current events knows the Republicans are the party of the rich and will do anything to protect their patrons.
Among the Republican electorate, common sense is as rare as hens teeth.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:19 am
The Republican “argument” in this case, in order to maintain their oppositeness, is “but… but… Obama is a bigger capitalist.”
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:19 am
stands
I bike 8 miles every day and never wear a helmut. However, if I ride a motorcycle, I always wear a helmut…
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:22 am
Mick, alas, I rarely have a chance to ride a bike at all.
The last few times I did, though, I went without a helmet, and it felt very strange, since (like you) I won’t get on any motorized two-wheeled vehicle without a helmet–full-face, if you please.
Obviously, this is one of those critical mass things which we Americans don’t do very well. You have to get masses of grown-ups using bikes to run errands and get to work, in order to a) get the accessibility needed via wider shoulders, bike lanes, etc. and b) overall driver awareness of the self-propellers in their midst.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
8:24 am
Jon Tanasborn sums it up nicely——–
“By chance or circumstance, Obama was the perfect man to have at the White House… perfect for this band of thugs that had raped the nation. They were safe from prosecution knowing that neither the president nor his chosen attorney general, Eric Holden, had the stomach to conduct a criminal investigation against the very people who had provided major help in getting Obama elected to the high office.
Elected Obama became the perfect shield/defender for past criminality in acts of war (Bush-son, Cheney and their lackeys) and in acts of financial defalcation (Wall Street blue-bloods)… he seemed believable when he claimed that apparent business misconduct, or misuse of US bullying power, could not make it in a court of criminal law. A “President McCain,” without a lily-white personal and business background, would not have held the same credibility throughout the nation.
We could say that Obama, by not having the Justice Department bring to trial key members of the Thug-elite, became the patron saint of “gentler capitalism”; that’s probably what he will prefer to be known, using the pretext of further endangering an already divided nation. But that is precisely where he is wrong. It isn’t “gentler capitalism” that he has helped. By his lack of courageous action, he has interceded on behalf of the Thug-elite… and, although we are sure such was not his intention, he has become, de facto, St. Barack Obama, Patron Saint of Predatory Capitalism.”
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People who STILL support Obama are…………………………….souless.
Jay Bugger
October 2nd, 2012
8:26 am
Bite Me Jay
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Biggest WS donors for Bozo in 2008….
Goldman Sachs 1,013, 091
JP Morgan Chase 808,799
Citigroup 736,711
Morgan Stanley 512,232
Bozo raised almost twice as much WS money in 2008 as did McCain. Democrats didn’t seem to be too upset by that, now did they? Democrats hate WS but they do love WS money.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
Thomas
His name is Ben, not Jon.
And his resume is…underwhelming.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
Do you corporatist stooges and neocons never get worn out lips and tongues?
Constantly kissing BIG business arses has got to get old after a few decades.
Maybe you Trickle Downers and Donald Dump can create a new TV show – Bankster Bootlickers – Lick Your way to the Top!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Biggest WS donors for Bozo in 2008….
Goldman Sachs 1,013, 091
JP Morgan Chase 808,799
Citigroup 736,711
Morgan Stanley 512,232
Bozo raised almost twice as much WS money in 2008 as did McCain. Democrats didn’t seem to be too upset by that, now did they? Democrats hate WS but they do love WS money.
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Wall Street supported President Obama because they took McCain at his word, “* “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” (December 2007)
They understood McCain would not be able to stop the economy from falling over the cliff.
Jump ahead 4 years and with the economy improving, Wall Street switches their loyalties – because they take Romney at his word. “Corporations are people my friends”
Wall street is wise enough to know which side of the bread has their
rich creamy butter.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
Breaking News-Wall Street funding Bozo the Clown. They’re just suckers for the red hair.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
“The President spent all his
political capital on health
care and then he was dealt
a stacked deck.”
I disagree… you have it out of order. He was dealt a pretty crappy hand from the stacked deck and he chose to go all in on Healthcare when jobs should’ve been his first bet.
Jeffrey
October 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
I think we should let wall street secede. They won’t have to pay taxes or be regulated but they won’t be part of the USA nor backed by the USA. Then we can see how many people will still want to invest with the. My guess is very few.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
Thomas
His name is Ben, not Jon.
And his resume is…underwhelming.
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Thank you for the correction.
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You were still duped.
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Hard.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
Oh, now I get it. Our Gooper brethren are feeling very feisty this morning, having learned that Romney’s chances of winning via an electoral vote tie have risen all the way to .6%
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/01/new-polls-raise-chance-of-electoral-college-tie/
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
Through the first three weeks of September, Knuckles, the money men had given more than twice as much to Romney than to Obama.
It was a different story in ‘08 of course. To what do you attribute the shift, Jay?
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
Granny, 8:34,
Unemployment still at over 8%, more like 13-15% if you count everyone, our debt almost equals our GDP, growth stalled at a paltry 1.7%, our credit rating world wide in the tank, record foreclosures and short sales of residential property, record trade imbalances…… yeah, we’re doin’ fine. This economy is already over the cliff, Granny. And McCain had nothing to do with it.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
Democrats using tax dollars garnered almost exclusively from the top 10% of wage earners to blame all this country’s problems on the greedy top 10% who don’t “pay their fair share.”
Ben laughs at silly liberals…….
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
Oh Noes! kayaker’s world sounds like it is caving in on him. He’s probably not better off than he was four years ago.
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
stands
One other thing that I do concerning biking; I ride on the sidewalks, not on the street with traffic and my reasoning is this: Two hundred pounds of flesh versus 2000 lbs of metal and I’m the loser every time. Plus, people are way to agressive in their driving today, they would just as soon run me over and let me die on the side of the road then stop and try to help. That doesn’t happen here in s. florida with all these third world drivers…
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
kayaker71 – “yeah, we’re doin’ fine”
It would seem that these people agree that we are doing better than we would under a Romney adminstration. http://www.electoral-vote.com/. But don’t worry , you still have 2016 to look forward to, even though I’m sure you’ll miss the cutsie names for the POTUS.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, ‘ the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
Thomas
Duped? I think not.
But your thinking that makes it much easier for us to win.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
I see the NY AG is taking JPM to court over those AAA-rated MBS’s. Republicans must surely be pleased to see that.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:45 am
“America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
Irony sure can be ironic.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
8:46 am
Towncrier / T. Sowell — “But the people I would blame the most in the sense that without their interference other problems would have been within manageable means are the politicians—people in Congress and the president and regulators—who pushed the lenders and the banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into lending and buying mortgages based on people who didn’t meet standards that evolved in the marketplace and which had worked.”
The Freddie-Fannie responsibility argument has been debunked *repeatedly* in the last four years. IMO, anyone who’s still using it is either woefully ignorant, incredibly poorly informed or willfully dishonest. Or a combination of all three.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders? Which version of the story are we on now, number 13? From the most open and transparent administration in our nation’s history?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
Granny, 8:34,
Unemployment still at over 8%, more like 13-15% if you count everyone, our debt almost equals our GDP, growth stalled at a paltry 1.7%, our credit rating world wide in the tank, record foreclosures and short sales of residential property, record trade imbalances…… yeah, we’re doin’ fine. This economy is already over the cliff, Granny. And McCain had nothing to do with it.
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Except we are not over the cliff….Mr. Silly Pants.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:48 am
Ben Shockley – ““The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, ‘ the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006″
Wow, no matter how many times I see this posted on this board, the lack of creativity and originality displayed by the party faithful never ceases to amaze me. He Ben, why don’t you put up some stats about 8% unemployment and the price of gas when Obama was elected while your scraping the bottom of that barrel.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
Obama foreign policy – “We got Bin Laden!”
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.
BuckeyeInGa
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
kayacker 8:39
Unemployment still at over 8%, more like 13-15% if you count everyone
What’s type of calculation is being used to count 13-15 as opposed to 8? Everything I seen reported
has it at 8.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:50 am
Hey Butch…why don’t you tell us why $500 billion deficits were horrible under Bush and $1.5 trillion deficits under Obama are awesome.
Thanks in advance.
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
ben
Every administration comes in touting transparency then reality hits and now that you actually have to deal with COMPLEX problems, it’s a lot harder. Keep trying to bend this libyan incident into something that it is not; they still are investigating, what’s your rush???
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
Ben Shockley – “Hey Butch…why don’t you tell us why $500 billion deficits were horrible under Bush and $1.5 trillion deficits under Obama are awesome.”
I never said $1.5 trillion deficits were awesome. Why would I need to defend a position that I never took?
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
Thomas
Duped? I think not.
But your thinking that makes it much easier for us to win.
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We all get duped..It’s part of life.
Even I…………..believe or not…………have been duped(Bush Boi the first time).
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But to be duped twice by the SAME man?
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Something is wrong.
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Terribly.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:53 am
Ben Shockley: “Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders?”
No I think management would look askance at Jay veering into Kyle Wingman’s beat.
Division of labor you know.
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
BuckeyeInGa, 8:49,
The 8% is after the numbers have been massaged. For most every job that Bozo has “created”, someone has left the workplace. We have few people working now than we did in 2008. That BS about creating millions of jobs is nothing but campaign rhetoric.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
Mick,
Obama has taking the art of lying to dizzying new heights. even Bill Clinton is impressed.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
0311 — “Replicant: Nukes have kept us from WW III, WW IV and probably WW V.”
Kamchak’s Corollary at work again, I see. Why don’t you just give them credit for stopping a new world war every week since the Trinity test?
The Chinese version of this is that a young newlywed couple gets 1000 renminbi for the first child they don’t have, then another 500 renminbi for each additional child they don’t have.
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
Butch!
How’s NYC?
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
**Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush**
Not intended to be a factual statement. Bush disbanded the search for bin laden in 2006 because he did not no where he was, nor did he care remember???
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
How’s that 2010 Republican jobs campaign coming along?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Ben Shockley: “America has a debt problem..”
Well, looks like you’re SOL on that one pal. Nobody that either of the two big corporate capitalist parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, just two faces of the ruling class, has put forward will make one bit of difference in the debt. So if that’s your main concern — tough luck for you.
But really, what you ought to be more worried about is the increasing social unrest and a breakdown of the already strained social fabric and cohesion due to the skyrocketing wealth inequalities under oligarchic rule. THAT’s what you really ought to be worried about.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Butch,
If $500 billion deficits are a “failure of leadership” (Obama’s own words) what should we call $1.5 trillion deficits?
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Ben Shockley – “even Bill Clinton is impressed.”
He must be, look how much he’s helping Obama beat Romney. http://www.electoral-vote.com/.
St Simons
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
True, we have firmly in power two factions of the capitalist party,
and no one to represent workers, students, old, sick, children, etc.
Do not mistake my support for Obama as endorsement.
It is a step, one of many, in a direction. in a long journey.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Ahem — “They know who is going to win.”
If he’s “going to win,” then why bother helping him?
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Hey, Welcome to the Occupation….
Have you tried occupying a job?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
TaxPayer: “How’s that 2010 Republican jobs campaign coming along?”
JOEBBBS? WEDONNEEED NO STINKIN JOBBZ!!!! HEEEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
ben
Also, the cost of the wars was kept off the books, then obama put them on the books, hence the deficit of 1.5 trillion – math…
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Breaking News: A red-headed clown named Bozo has created more jobs than the Republicans have since their 2010 jobs campaign.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:59 am
Thomas
Yes, most of us get duped and I suspect you’ve been duped by the GOP countless times.
I’m quite sure that I have never been duped by any Presidential candidate. EVER.
With all the data available current and historical somebody would have to be a huge imbecile to fall for somebody like Mitt, or McCain, or Ryan, or Bush (either one) or Cheney or Palin or Nixon or Agnew….
That’s epic fail stupid.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
Jm – “Butch!
How’s NYC?
Hey Jm, right now it’s just rainy. Hoping to get out on the Can Am on Friday and take a ride to the upper Hudson . How’s Florida?
TiredOfIt
October 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
Obama foreign policy – “We got Bin Laden!”
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.
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What part of “We” do you not understand?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:01 am
Ben Shockley: “Have you tried occupying a job?”
We don’t occupy jobs my friend. Capitalists occupy jobs and give them out stingily, like the cold misers that they are. Got to get the direction of the transitive verb right bud.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:01 am
Ben Shockley – “If $500 billion deficits are a “failure of leadership” (Obama’s own words) what should we call $1.5 trillion deficits?”
I’d call them crappy. However, I haven’t commented on them before.
BuckeyeInGa
October 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
kayaker 71 8:54
Did Reagen, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II massage those same numbers as well? If so what was the non massaged unemployment numbers?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:03 am
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.
Wow. These loons, never much for shame, are completely beside themselves. Robbed of their rah rah! foreign policy thus talking points, they shrivel into a puddle of incoherence. Lol
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
Butch 9am
Rainy as well, but nice weekend weather, was out on the water on Saturday
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
This description of Romney by John Kass of Chicago Trib, hardly a bleeding leftie, is so hilarious, I just had to share:
Let’s admit it. Romney is a stiff, the guy in the Kohl’s Father’s Day catalog, the fellow with the hard grin and the hard crease in the pleated khakis.
joe
October 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
Fixed your headline:
Obama lying, distorting and breaking laws just to get re-elected
Sub-header– so he can turn our freedom/capitalism into security/socialism
When Obozo says he envisions greater security for our country, that is code for greater government control by any means necessary.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
“Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders? Which version of the story are we on now, number 13? From the most open and transparent administration in our nation’s history?”
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Two points:
\First, blogspot is ready when you are.
\Second, this “Libya conspiracy disaster” thing only plays inside your bubble, not in the real world.
Cosby
October 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
It is all a scam – Dems and Repubs..but Jay only thinks the Repubs and the rich are to blame..Hmmm Barney fife keeping Fannie and Freddie out of the reform act while his lover makes millions in bonuses, Holder – the Obama Attorney General – not going after executives at Goldman’s sacks due to their influence and contributions to Obama, Fannie and Freddie pushing banks to provide stupid loans to people who could not afford them – IE the reason for the recession – The Dems in charge of both houses of congress in 2007 – before the big recession that is still going on and then having charge for two (2) more years…but wait, according to Jay it is the evil rich and the evil Republicans causing all the tough times on the middle class….how about the full story Jay..oh and how about Obama giving almost a trillion dollars to green energy while they back doored contributions to him, or how about the taxes to the poor and middle class inside the Avordable Health Care Act..Yep Jay, lets just tell one side of the story….
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
Has anyone ever noticed that Hannitys on air time could be reduced to 1 hour a week? It’s not that I don’t enjoy watching him, it’s just that every night he says exactly the same thing. Look Sean, we get that you don’t like Obama and you enjoy pummeling Juan Williams. Do you really need 5 nights a week to demonstrate this?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
9:10 am
BuckeyeInGa
October 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
kayaker 71 8:54
Did Reagen, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II massage those same numbers as well? If so what was the non massaged unemployment numbers?
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Pardon me, but I thought you’d like the real answer.
UE numbers are calculated 2 ways.
Un employed and Under employed. – hence the two numbers.
K71 and other conspiracy fans have started to claim that the
government is somehow falsifying the numbers.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders?
No. We rely on you and the other non thinkers to post the talk radio lies here. Thanks for your tireless dedication to lies and disinformation. You get the Rush gold star to take home to mommy. 30 more lies and you’ll get the Dr. Goebbels award of lying excellency.
Paul
October 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
Morning, all.
Nice illustration this morning: there’s simple trolling, then there’s an obvious, desperate need for attention.
Look kindly on those with such special needs.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
joe: “Sub-header– so he can turn our freedom/capitalism into security/socialism”
Sorry, dude. Your precious ‘freedom/capitalism’ was already rotted out from the inside before the Obamster ever set foot at Penn Ave, as any careful analysis will show.
It’s oligarchy now. Freedom and capitalism now have no more to do with each other than feudalism and Christian virtue.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
Cosby@9:09 am
You post this: “lets just tell one side of the story….” In the same paragraph as this: “Fannie and Freddie pushing banks to provide stupid loans to people who could not afford them – IE the reason for the recession”
Ever heard of the word ironic?
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
“The 8% is after the numbers have been massaged”
It’s so cute that, when they don’t have a REAL point, the cons move the goalposts with stuff like this. We only measure unemployment numbers in one consistent way, so it’s fair to compare between administrations, UNLESS it’s Obama – then we have to make up some way for him to look worse, whether it’s reality-based, or not.
Seriously, you got nothin’, right?
bman
October 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
Butch .. .. Isn’t that true with nearly every show, articles, editorials or blog posts?
Southern Pride
October 2nd, 2012
9:13 am
So the Democratic administration bailed out Wall Street, but now Wall Street is supporting the Republicans instead of the people who bailed them out? That doesn’t make any sense. There are some parts and pieces missing from this viewpoint. I’m not trying to judge Republicans or Democrats here; I’m just saying something about the logic doesn’t fit and there are some facts missing one way or the other.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:14 am
Yo Butch: The same could have been said about Boortz for the last 4 years. His show is nothing but “I hate Obama” and “Obama is a communists and libruls suck.”
It’s sad because before that, whether or not you agreed with his politics, Boortz’s show was funny and entertaining.
OBIWAN
October 2nd, 2012
9:15 am
What a joke, democrats are delusional if they think that ONLY the republicans are getting Wall Street $$$….But only an uneducated, biased loser would believe that, right libs?
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:15 am
LOL Paul. I love it. We’ll try to be nice to our short bus participants, just because you asked us.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:16 am
bman – “Butch .. .. Isn’t that true with nearly every show, articles, editorials or blog posts?”
To a degree, yes. However, Hannity literally says the exact same thing, night after night after night verbatim. At least in the examples you provided, the individuals try to somewhat keep it interesting and change up the dialogue from time to time.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:17 am
“Obama foreign policy – “We got Bin Laden!”
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.”
The hypocrisy and duplicity of wingnuts is simply staggering…
Obama is personally responsible for maintaining the guard’s schedules and duty rosters in our foreign embassies but gets no credit for killing public enemy #1 (you know, OBL, the guy W and Rummy allowed to ride away from Tora Bora on the back of a donkey…)
This is but one of the many reasons wingnuts have no credibility… Simply stunning…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
9:17 am
Southern Pride
October 2nd, 2012
9:13 am
So the Democratic administration bailed out Wall Street, but now Wall Street is supporting the Republicans instead of the people who bailed them out? That doesn’t make any sense. There are some parts and pieces missing from this viewpoint. I’m not trying to judge Republicans or Democrats here; I’m just saying something about the logic doesn’t fit and there are some facts missing one way or the other.
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You are making more complicated than it is.
Wall street supported President Obama so he could save the economy.
They support Romney now so he can save their life styles.
Easy. Peasy.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:18 am
OBIWAN – “What a joke, democrats are delusional if they think that ONLY the republicans are getting Wall Street $$$….But only an uneducated, biased loser would believe that, right libs?”
Agreed, but please show us where anyone on this board has said that ONLY Republicans get donations from Wall Street.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:19 am
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
Butch 9am
Rainy as well, but nice weekend weather, was out on the water on Saturday
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It’s just an Obama librul lie that you can’t breath under water. You should try it next time you are out.
Thomas
October 2nd, 2012
9:19 am
From the NYT
The sophisticated tax strategies of Bain and other private equity firms begin with the basic architecture of their funds
sophisticated is code (no pun intended) for tax attorney full employment products.
Simplify and expand simplify and expand Why have an estate tax that 99% of the folks simply legally avoid (see your boy Buffett)
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:21 am
So if W has no reponsibility for the state of the economy he left us when he scurried back under his rock 3 years in, why does he get credit for military actions undertaken 3 years in?
W, Rummy, and Cheney have the blood of each and every military casualty incurred in Afghanistan since the night Osama Bin Laden rode out from under their noses on the back of a donkey… As well they are responsible for EVERY casualty incurred in Iraq, their war of choice based on their outright lies and fabrications.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:22 am
joe — “When Obozo says he envisions greater security for our country, that is code for greater government control by any means necessary.”
The fish wears a red tie. The hamster is out of its cage. The second fish wears a blue tie. Banana! Banana! The sandwich has been left in the street.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:23 am
OBIWAN: “What a joke, democrats are delusional if they think that ONLY the republicans are getting Wall Street $$$….But only an uneducated, biased loser would believe that, right libs?”
C’mon buddy, catch up. The whole premise of this discussion was that Obama took large sums from Wall Street in ‘08. No one’s denying that.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
…set in motion under Bush…
As was the most devastating economic implosion in nearly a hundred years.
That knife cuts both ways, bushlicker…
St Simons
October 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
count the number of times they say ‘duped’ today.
-if you’re into counting.
-i mean, if counting is your thing….
man, that one must have focus-polled thru the roof
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
Cosby — “Fannie and Freddie pushing banks to provide stupid loans to people who could not afford them – IE the reason for the recession”
Good job. That’s the second time on this thread that debunked bulldada has been yanked from the grave.
It’s still bulldada, though.
Yo!
October 2nd, 2012
9:25 am
In 2008, only one candidate spoke out against Wall Street while taking their money—Obama. I know Romney’s a Wall Street guy.
Who knew Obama was?
bwahahahaha
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 2nd, 2012
9:25 am
I forget who it was (Fred I think) but you were sure right !
Jay’s late thread last night means he is sleeping in this morning …………….
Peadawg
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:21 am
You forgot to add Obama to that list since we’re still over there 3 1/2 years into his term.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
B. Cassidy — “Has anyone ever noticed that Hannitys on air time could be reduced to 1 hour a week? It’s not that I don’t enjoy watching him, it’s just that every night he says exactly the same thing. Look Sean, we get that you don’t like Obama and you enjoy pummeling Juan Williams. Do you really need 5 nights a week to demonstrate this?”
His radio show’s much the same, except with less Juan Williams pummeling and more faux indignation and “it’s outrageous” and “it’s unbelievable” pronouncements from him.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with Fast and Furious weapons
When Mexican authorities took Juarez drug cartel carnage king Jose Antonio Acosta Hernandez — better known as “El Diego” — into custody, he had weapons from Operation Fast and Furious on his person, the English-language transcript of the Spanish-language television network Univision’s special investigation into the scandal shows.
“According to investigations, ‘El Diego’ forms the link between this massacre and Fast and Furious,” an anchor read on air in Spanish Sunday evening, referring to two different mass killings drug cartel operatives used Fast and Furious weapons to conduct as Univision reported.
“When he [El Diego] was captured in Chihuahua in the summer of 2011, he was found with weapons that the American government had allowed to enter Mexico,” the anchor added.
alittlecommonsense
October 2nd, 2012
9:28 am
Jay – Was it equally repugnant to you in 2008 when the bulk of financial sector money went to the Democrats who were (and still are) bashing Wall Steet?
Your beloved party is just as guilty here if not more so. Open your eyes Jay.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:30 am
“C’mon buddy, catch up. The whole premise of this discussion was that Obama took large sums from Wall Street in ‘08. No one’s denying that.”
Awwwww – and for a minute, Obi felt so good about himself.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:30 am
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
B. Cassidy — “Has anyone ever noticed that Hannitys on air time could be reduced to 1 hour a week? It’s not that I don’t enjoy watching him, it’s just that every night he says exactly the same thing. Look Sean, we get that you don’t like Obama and you enjoy pummeling Juan Williams. Do you really need 5 nights a week to demonstrate this?”
His radio show’s much the same, except with less Juan Williams pummeling and more faux indignation and “it’s outrageous” and “it’s unbelievable” pronouncements from him.
I think Sean and his advertising sales department are happy to know that you are listening and watching. It would not surprise me to learn that a huge percentage of the listeners and viewers of conservative programming are actually liberals that have grown frustrated with the inferior product foisted by the counterparts.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:31 am
GG — “Wall street supported President Obama so he could save the economy. They support Romney now so he can save their life styles.”
Japanese Lizard Woman speaks truth.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:33 am
Ahem – “It would not surprise me to learn that a huge percentage of the listeners and viewers of conservative programming are actually liberals that have grown frustrated with the inferior product foisted by the counterparts.”
Yes, just as commuters, frustrated with gridlock, are drawn to watching car wrecks on the freeway.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
9:33 am
It would not surprise me to learn that a huge percentage of the listeners and viewers of conservative programming are actually liberals that have grown frustrated with the inferior product foisted by the counterparts.
A huge percentage???
Occasionally someone comes up with so insanely off base that it actually makes sense.
To them.
And no one else.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
Ahem@9:30am
Actually, the reason I watch Fox is because I already know what the other more left leaning stations are going to say. What I’m looking for is a reason to return to the Republican party I abandoned during GW’s 2nd term. To date, Fox News and the supposedly Republican commentors on this blog, have given me no reason to re-think my membership in the GOP.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
A poll about the polls. Well,it is the “silly season”…
Poll: Plurality say polls biased for Obama
A plurality of Americans and more than seven in 10 Republicans say pollsters are intentionally skewing results to benefit President Obama, according to a new poll released Tuesday.
Some 42 percent of voters surveyed by Daily Kos and SEIU believe pollsters were manipulating their sample sizes to benefit the incumbent president, while 40 percent do not. An additional 18 percent said they were not sure. That’s evidence that Republican claims that Democrats and minority voters are being oversampled in national polls could be resonating — and potentially undermining the momentum of the president’s early lead.
They BOTH suck
October 2nd, 2012
9:39 am
Ahem
How was that Univision “bombshell”?
hahahahahaha
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
alittlecommonsense
October 2nd, 2012
9:28 am
Jay – Was it equally repugnant to you in 2008 when the bulk of financial sector money went to the Democrats who were (and still are) bashing Wall Steet?
Your beloved party is just as guilty here if not more so. Open your eyes Jay.
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you could use a little more than a little more common sense to be sure!
Once more for this thread…
Wall street supported President Obama so he could save the economy. They support Romney now so he can save their life styles.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
Ahem — “I think Sean and his advertising sales department are happy to know that you are listening and watching.”
I’ve been listening to Sean since he was still a local talker here on WGST. That said, I don’t listen to him nearly as much as I did before the Iraq invasion. He got as shrill as a teenage girl who just spotted her worst enemy at the prom, wearing the EXACT SAME DRESS ZOMG. Consequently, I listen only occasionally now, and Sean’s shtick hasn’t changed since 2003.
“It would not surprise me to learn that a huge percentage of the listeners and viewers of conservative programming are actually liberals that have grown frustrated with the inferior product foisted by the counterparts.”
Who said I’m frustrated? Listening to Sean and Rush falls under “know your enemy” as far as I’m concerned. Don’t worry, there’s no danger of me switching back to the GOP any time soon, Punkin.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:43 am
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Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
I feel your pain. I am certainly not a member of the (R) party either. I have been disappointed time and again by too many of the (R)s. What I know for certain is that I am not a liberal and therefore I will vote for the lesser of the two evils. Four more years of “Oblunda the Destroyer” is not sustainable. FOX sells advertising, just like CNN and all the others, so I expect things to be “jacked up” for viewer consumption. FOX rules in that roost and the others look enemic.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:43 am
Ahem — “Some 42 percent of voters surveyed by Daily Kos and SEIU believe pollsters were manipulating their sample sizes to benefit the incumbent president, while 40 percent do not. An additional 18 percent said they were not sure. That’s evidence that Republican claims that Democrats and minority voters are being oversampled in national polls could be resonating — and potentially undermining the momentum of the president’s early lead.”
Really? People’s *beliefs* about the polls are somehow going to change the poll *results?* So if I believe hard enough that the silver coins in my safety deposit box are actually gold, they’ll change for me? (laughing)
Maaaaan, the sheer level of statistical ignorance and outright innumeracy displayed here by our cons is absolutely staggering IMO.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:44 am
Don’t worry, there’s no danger of me switching back to the GOP any time soon, Punkin.
Like you ever were a GOPer, Jackazz.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:46 am
Really? People’s *beliefs* about the polls are somehow going to change the poll *results?*
And who on here said beliefs would change polls, Jackazz?
lovelyliz
October 2nd, 2012
9:48 am
“But this year, 60% of Wall Street’s contributions went to Republicans”
“While the Romney campaign has refused to release the names of its bundlers, lists published by the media and analyzed by researchers show that the financial industry comprises the largest single sector of his support”
“Romney and the Super PAC supporting him have pulled in a combined $37.1 million, easily eclipsing the $4.8 million Wall Street has bestowed upon Obama.”
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:55 am
Ahem — “Like you ever were a GOPer, Jackazz.”
For over 20 years, fellow Jackazz. Voted, donated and volunteered for the GOP. Left in 2003. And I don’t see myself coming back any time soon, given the way the GOP faithful are behaving of late.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:56 am
Ahem — “And who on here said beliefs would change polls, Jackazz?”
Learn to read what you post before posting it, Jackazz. It’s right there in the text that you posted and that I quoted.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:58 am
Something has to give at some point, and it must be spending. Oblunda promised to do something about this, but that was pure campaign rhetoric. It won’t make a tinker’s damn who gets elected president IF the congress is not reset and on a path to fiscal responsibilty.
Debt Jumped $1.2759T in FY 2012; Up $10,855 Per Household in Just 12 Months; Beats 2011
(CNSNews.com) – According to the U.S. Treasury, the debt of the U.S. government climbed by a total of $1,275,901,078,828.74 in fiscal 2012, which ended yesterday.
That means the federal government borrowed approximately an additional $10,855 for each household in the United States just over the past twelve months.
The total debt of the United States now equals approximately $136,690 per household.
Here is how much the debt has increased in each of the last six fiscal years:
Fiscal 2007: $500,679,473,047.25
Fiscal 2008: $1,017,071,524,650.01
Fiscal 2009: $1,885,104,106,599.26
Fiscal 2010: $1,651,794,027,380.04
Fiscal 2011: $1,228,717,297,665.36
Fiscal 2012: $1,275,901,078,828.74.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
10:02 am
Ahem — “Something has to give at some point, and it must be spending. Oblunda promised to do something about this, but that was pure campaign rhetoric. It won’t make a tinker’s damn who gets elected president IF the congress is not reset and on a path to fiscal responsibilty.”
Not to worry. The automatic spending cuts will just kick in once January rolls around.
If Congress can’t come up with an agreement to meet the spending cut targets, then the automatic cuts will do the job for them.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
10:05 am
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:56 am
Ahem — “And who on here said beliefs would change polls, Jackazz?”
Learn to read what you post before posting it, Jackazz. It’s right there in the text that you posted and that I quoted.
Well, I read MY posted text three times and still do not understand how you get where you are trying to go. If you can clearly illustrate where in MY posted text I, or anyone for that matter, suggest or even hint at your premise, then bring it on.
Furthermore, I will take the moniker Jackazz if you agree to the more appropriate Horse’s Azz for yourself.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
10:07 am
I have to go earn some taxes.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
10:08 am
Looks like someone is getting his extensive list of
reasonsexcuses as to why the weakest GOP candidate in a hundred years is going to lose this election.1) The evil liberal media is against Willard
2) Wall St. is secretly bankrolling Barry
3) Voter fraud including dead people and felons by the millions in the tank for Barry (is this where ACORN fits in?)
4) The Muslim terrorists are financing Barry
5) The misunderstood GOP is not doing a good enough job of getting their message out
6) The 47% mooching class and black Dem Plantation crowd
7) Liberals hate success and Mitt is the epitome of success
And on and on and on…
Yet the biggest reason is right in front of their noses.
Romney is unfit to lead.
And even they know it.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
10:15 am
Ahem — “Well, I read MY posted text three times and still do not understand how you get where you are trying to go. If you can clearly illustrate where in MY posted text I, or anyone for that matter, suggest or even hint at your premise, then bring it on.”
Sure. Here you go:
Some 42 percent of voters surveyed by Daily Kos and SEIU believe pollsters were manipulating their sample sizes to benefit the incumbent president, while 40 percent do not. An additional 18 percent said they were not sure. That’s evidence that Republican claims that Democrats and minority voters are being oversampled in national polls could be resonating — and potentially undermining the momentum of the president’s early lead.
Let’s break that down so you can see where I’m coming from.
Some 42 percent of voters surveyed by Daily Kos and SEIU believe pollsters were manipulating their sample sizes to benefit the incumbent president, while 40 percent do not. An additional 18 percent said they were not sure.
Fine. That result speaks to what people *believe about the polls,* but not *how they’re going to vote.* You can’t poll on one question and then claim that the answers are responsive to *another* question that you didn’t even ask. That’s called “conflation,” which is where you take two unrelated things (in this case, two different poll topics) and claim that somehow, one equals the other.
That’s evidence that Republican claims that Democrats and minority voters are being oversampled in national polls could be resonating
Which means what, exactly? That people are going to change how they vote? Can you seriously picture a situation in which a voter thinks wow, it looks like some pollsters were really monkeying with their poll results. Guess I better vote for Romney instead of Obama. Seriously, who makes their voting decision based on something like that?
— and potentially undermining the momentum of the president’s early lead.”
And here’s where the connection is made, that the *beliefs* of those who were polled are going to somehow change the actual poll and election *results.* The writer that you quoted is *conflating* the cited poll with the actual Presidential polling and Presidential election *results.*
Is that more clear?
“Furthermore, I will take the moniker Jackazz if you agree to the more appropriate Horse’s Azz for yourself.”
You can take whatever you like; it won’t change anything from my perspective. And you can call me whatever you like; it doesn’t matter because it won’t change my positions or give your arguments any traction.
In short, I’m unaffected by names. You, however, clearly get upset when they’re applied to you. That’s good to know.
DownInAlbany
October 2nd, 2012
10:19 am
You Obama defenders just slay me! Unemployment, debt (it’s 16 trillion, Mr. President, not 10), Fast & Furious, the absolute deceit regarding the murder of our ambassador, executive orders, defacating on the Constitution, instructing businesses to disregard federal law (with the taxpayers potentially picking up the legal tab), the fact that 90% of us face a tax increase in January, giving $450 million to Egypt, Pigford III. Dang, I could go on all day, but, I think you get the point.