GOP using Wall Street $$ to blame Dems for Wall Street
Man, this is so wrong on so many levels:
House Republicans in several tight races want voters to know that Democrats are the party of Wall Street.
The only problem: big banks are helping foot the bill for the ads.
The National Republican Congressional Committee’s ads in New York and North Carolina blast Democratic candidates for supporting the Wall Street bailout and allowing executives to pocket big-time bonuses, and in one case feature a banker burning money with his lit cigar.At the same time, the NRCC has taken in a record haul from investment, securities and commercial banks. So far this cycle, the industry has contributed $7.1 million — that’s up more than $2.7 million since the 2010 election, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Goldman Sachs and its employees are the top private-sector giver to the Republican Party committee, contributing $388,450 this cycle. Goldman Sachs declined to comment.
The levels of cynicism at work here are impressive. The Wall Street types, for example, clearly know who their friends are and who will protect them, and are saying so through their money. The Republicans in turn clearly know that their rich friends aren’t very popular with voters, who understandably blame Wall Street for creating the biggest financial collapse in some 80 years, and for managing to walk away with their own fortunes intact while millions of innocent people lose their jobs, homes, careers and futures. And together the GOP and its Wall Street sponsors conspire to blame it all on the Democrats, who are hardly blameless but whose biggest failure in the wake of the crisis was to fail to press hard enough for real reform.
Amazing.
– Jay Bookman
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Tall
October 2nd, 2012
8:08 am
….”Goldman Sachs and its employees are the top private-sector giver to the Republican Party committee, contributing $388,450 this cycle. Goldman Sachs declined to comment….”
That’s still about $600k less than President Obama raised from GS in the last election. By the way, has anyone seen Jon Corzine?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
Kayaker 71
What the hell do YOU think it has to do with a discussion on EBT
prompted by a snotty post?
GT
October 2nd, 2012
8:11 am
This is where the debates center, no rehearsing in the world can right this untruth.
I love how the press set both parties as liar against liar in this debate. Romney has taken to the mats for the last month preparing for these debates. His handlers are saying he is memorizing facts and arguments, I think he is trying to learn to control the flow of the conversation. At the end of this debate, similar to Newt Gingrich controlling the South Carolina debates and John King, the conclusion will be a draw, which for Romney is a win. Both candidates will regurgitate their lines and the American public will be left to decide not what is true but what they wish was true. The GOP wins that contest every time because they are given equal weight with their mistruth as the Democrats are given with the truth. The public is left to decide, usually with little other information, than what is filtered though these debates. Romney is training to deliver noise and as little truth and facts as possible the same way he runs his campaign. The old bar fly talking to a pick up candidate, lets not talk about me I am interested in you.
I am hoping instead, very much like Clinton did in the convention speech, that Obama articulates Wall Street contribution to this mess. Obama needs to tell the American public that the GOP has a lot of brass producing a mess and blaming it on the next man in the kitchen. Romney will take O’s breath away lying directly to the camera and daring Obama to challenge it. I have great faith in my president but the GOP have a half of billion dollars riding on Romney being able to lie to the American public and get away with it.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
So if I read these comments correctly, the “Obama is a socialst” mantra must have been a lie. Or, are the party faithful suggesting that capitalistic corporations make it a habit of supporting socialist candidates? Which is it kids?
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:12 am
Just some food for thought. Would we be better off if we didn’t encourage adults to wear bike helmets?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunday-review/to-encourage-biking-cities-forget-about-helmets.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
I did something extraordinary, something I’ve not done in a quarter-century of regular bike riding in the United States: I rode off without a helmet.
I rode all day at a modest clip, on both sides of the Seine, in the Latin Quarter, past the Louvre and along the Champs-Élysées, feeling exhilarated, not fearful. And I had tons of bareheaded bicycling company amid the Parisian traffic. One common denominator of successful bike programs around the world — from Paris to Barcelona to Guangzhou — is that almost no one wears a helmet, and there is no pressure to do so.
In the United States the notion that bike helmets promote health and safety by preventing head injuries is taken as pretty near God’s truth. Un-helmeted cyclists are regarded as irresponsible, like people who smoke. Cities are aggressive in helmet promotion.
But many European health experts have taken a very different view: Yes, there are studies that show that if you fall off a bicycle at a certain speed and hit your head, a helmet can reduce your risk of serious head injury. But such falls off bikes are rare — exceedingly so in mature urban cycling systems.
On the other hand, many researchers say, if you force or pressure people to wear helmets, you discourage them from riding bicycles. That means more obesity, heart disease and diabetes. And — Catch-22 — a result is fewer ordinary cyclists on the road, which makes it harder to develop a safe bicycling network. The safest biking cities are places like Amsterdam and Copenhagen, where middle-aged commuters are mainstay riders and the fraction of adults in helmets is minuscule.
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:13 am
Granny, 8:10,
So, “snotty posts” are a sign that someone is pulling the race card? Albany didn’t mention race in this post……. you did. Looks like your skin is a little thin on this issue, nes-ce-pas?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:16 am
Bottom line
Wall Street supported President Obama because they took McCain at his word, “* “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” (December 2007)
They understood McCain would not be able to stop the economy from falling over the cliff.
Jump ahead 4 years and with the economy improving, Wall Street switches their loyalties – because they take Romney at his word. “Corporations are people my friends”
Wall street is wise enough to know which side of the bread has their
rich creamy butter.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
Kayaker 71
I get you don’t do nuance, but the race card was already on the table.
Mr. Silly Pants.
indigo
October 2nd, 2012
8:18 am
Anyone who has a reasonable amount of common sense and keeps up with current events knows the Republicans are the party of the rich and will do anything to protect their patrons.
Among the Republican electorate, common sense is as rare as hens teeth.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:19 am
The Republican “argument” in this case, in order to maintain their oppositeness, is “but… but… Obama is a bigger capitalist.”
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:19 am
stands
I bike 8 miles every day and never wear a helmut. However, if I ride a motorcycle, I always wear a helmut…
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:22 am
Mick, alas, I rarely have a chance to ride a bike at all.
The last few times I did, though, I went without a helmet, and it felt very strange, since (like you) I won’t get on any motorized two-wheeled vehicle without a helmet–full-face, if you please.
Obviously, this is one of those critical mass things which we Americans don’t do very well. You have to get masses of grown-ups using bikes to run errands and get to work, in order to a) get the accessibility needed via wider shoulders, bike lanes, etc. and b) overall driver awareness of the self-propellers in their midst.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
8:24 am
Jon Tanasborn sums it up nicely——–
“By chance or circumstance, Obama was the perfect man to have at the White House… perfect for this band of thugs that had raped the nation. They were safe from prosecution knowing that neither the president nor his chosen attorney general, Eric Holden, had the stomach to conduct a criminal investigation against the very people who had provided major help in getting Obama elected to the high office.
Elected Obama became the perfect shield/defender for past criminality in acts of war (Bush-son, Cheney and their lackeys) and in acts of financial defalcation (Wall Street blue-bloods)… he seemed believable when he claimed that apparent business misconduct, or misuse of US bullying power, could not make it in a court of criminal law. A “President McCain,” without a lily-white personal and business background, would not have held the same credibility throughout the nation.
We could say that Obama, by not having the Justice Department bring to trial key members of the Thug-elite, became the patron saint of “gentler capitalism”; that’s probably what he will prefer to be known, using the pretext of further endangering an already divided nation. But that is precisely where he is wrong. It isn’t “gentler capitalism” that he has helped. By his lack of courageous action, he has interceded on behalf of the Thug-elite… and, although we are sure such was not his intention, he has become, de facto, St. Barack Obama, Patron Saint of Predatory Capitalism.”
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People who STILL support Obama are…………………………….souless.
Jay Bugger
October 2nd, 2012
8:26 am
Bite Me Jay
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Biggest WS donors for Bozo in 2008….
Goldman Sachs 1,013, 091
JP Morgan Chase 808,799
Citigroup 736,711
Morgan Stanley 512,232
Bozo raised almost twice as much WS money in 2008 as did McCain. Democrats didn’t seem to be too upset by that, now did they? Democrats hate WS but they do love WS money.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
Thomas
His name is Ben, not Jon.
And his resume is…underwhelming.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
Do you corporatist stooges and neocons never get worn out lips and tongues?
Constantly kissing BIG business arses has got to get old after a few decades.
Maybe you Trickle Downers and Donald Dump can create a new TV show – Bankster Bootlickers – Lick Your way to the Top!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Biggest WS donors for Bozo in 2008….
Goldman Sachs 1,013, 091
JP Morgan Chase 808,799
Citigroup 736,711
Morgan Stanley 512,232
Bozo raised almost twice as much WS money in 2008 as did McCain. Democrats didn’t seem to be too upset by that, now did they? Democrats hate WS but they do love WS money.
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Wall Street supported President Obama because they took McCain at his word, “* “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” but “I’ve got Greenspan’s book.” (December 2007)
They understood McCain would not be able to stop the economy from falling over the cliff.
Jump ahead 4 years and with the economy improving, Wall Street switches their loyalties – because they take Romney at his word. “Corporations are people my friends”
Wall street is wise enough to know which side of the bread has their
rich creamy butter.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
Breaking News-Wall Street funding Bozo the Clown. They’re just suckers for the red hair.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
“The President spent all his
political capital on health
care and then he was dealt
a stacked deck.”
I disagree… you have it out of order. He was dealt a pretty crappy hand from the stacked deck and he chose to go all in on Healthcare when jobs should’ve been his first bet.
Jeffrey
October 2nd, 2012
8:35 am
I think we should let wall street secede. They won’t have to pay taxes or be regulated but they won’t be part of the USA nor backed by the USA. Then we can see how many people will still want to invest with the. My guess is very few.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
Thomas
His name is Ben, not Jon.
And his resume is…underwhelming.
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Thank you for the correction.
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You were still duped.
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Hard.
stands for decibels
October 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
Oh, now I get it. Our Gooper brethren are feeling very feisty this morning, having learned that Romney’s chances of winning via an electoral vote tie have risen all the way to .6%
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/01/new-polls-raise-chance-of-electoral-college-tie/
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
Through the first three weeks of September, Knuckles, the money men had given more than twice as much to Romney than to Obama.
It was a different story in ‘08 of course. To what do you attribute the shift, Jay?
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
Granny, 8:34,
Unemployment still at over 8%, more like 13-15% if you count everyone, our debt almost equals our GDP, growth stalled at a paltry 1.7%, our credit rating world wide in the tank, record foreclosures and short sales of residential property, record trade imbalances…… yeah, we’re doin’ fine. This economy is already over the cliff, Granny. And McCain had nothing to do with it.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:41 am
Democrats using tax dollars garnered almost exclusively from the top 10% of wage earners to blame all this country’s problems on the greedy top 10% who don’t “pay their fair share.”
Ben laughs at silly liberals…….
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
Oh Noes! kayaker’s world sounds like it is caving in on him. He’s probably not better off than he was four years ago.
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
stands
One other thing that I do concerning biking; I ride on the sidewalks, not on the street with traffic and my reasoning is this: Two hundred pounds of flesh versus 2000 lbs of metal and I’m the loser every time. Plus, people are way to agressive in their driving today, they would just as soon run me over and let me die on the side of the road then stop and try to help. That doesn’t happen here in s. florida with all these third world drivers…
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:43 am
kayaker71 – “yeah, we’re doin’ fine”
It would seem that these people agree that we are doing better than we would under a Romney adminstration. http://www.electoral-vote.com/. But don’t worry , you still have 2016 to look forward to, even though I’m sure you’ll miss the cutsie names for the POTUS.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, ‘ the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
Thomas
Duped? I think not.
But your thinking that makes it much easier for us to win.
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
I see the NY AG is taking JPM to court over those AAA-rated MBS’s. Republicans must surely be pleased to see that.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:45 am
“America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
Irony sure can be ironic.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
8:46 am
Towncrier / T. Sowell — “But the people I would blame the most in the sense that without their interference other problems would have been within manageable means are the politicians—people in Congress and the president and regulators—who pushed the lenders and the banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into lending and buying mortgages based on people who didn’t meet standards that evolved in the marketplace and which had worked.”
The Freddie-Fannie responsibility argument has been debunked *repeatedly* in the last four years. IMO, anyone who’s still using it is either woefully ignorant, incredibly poorly informed or willfully dishonest. Or a combination of all three.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders? Which version of the story are we on now, number 13? From the most open and transparent administration in our nation’s history?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:47 am
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
Granny, 8:34,
Unemployment still at over 8%, more like 13-15% if you count everyone, our debt almost equals our GDP, growth stalled at a paltry 1.7%, our credit rating world wide in the tank, record foreclosures and short sales of residential property, record trade imbalances…… yeah, we’re doin’ fine. This economy is already over the cliff, Granny. And McCain had nothing to do with it.
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Except we are not over the cliff….Mr. Silly Pants.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:48 am
Ben Shockley – ““The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, ‘ the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006″
Wow, no matter how many times I see this posted on this board, the lack of creativity and originality displayed by the party faithful never ceases to amaze me. He Ben, why don’t you put up some stats about 8% unemployment and the price of gas when Obama was elected while your scraping the bottom of that barrel.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
Obama foreign policy – “We got Bin Laden!”
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.
BuckeyeInGa
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
kayacker 8:39
Unemployment still at over 8%, more like 13-15% if you count everyone
What’s type of calculation is being used to count 13-15 as opposed to 8? Everything I seen reported
has it at 8.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:50 am
Hey Butch…why don’t you tell us why $500 billion deficits were horrible under Bush and $1.5 trillion deficits under Obama are awesome.
Thanks in advance.
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
ben
Every administration comes in touting transparency then reality hits and now that you actually have to deal with COMPLEX problems, it’s a lot harder. Keep trying to bend this libyan incident into something that it is not; they still are investigating, what’s your rush???
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
Ben Shockley – “Hey Butch…why don’t you tell us why $500 billion deficits were horrible under Bush and $1.5 trillion deficits under Obama are awesome.”
I never said $1.5 trillion deficits were awesome. Why would I need to defend a position that I never took?
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 2nd, 2012
8:52 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 am
Thomas
Duped? I think not.
But your thinking that makes it much easier for us to win.
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We all get duped..It’s part of life.
Even I…………..believe or not…………have been duped(Bush Boi the first time).
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But to be duped twice by the SAME man?
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Something is wrong.
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Terribly.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:53 am
Ben Shockley: “Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders?”
No I think management would look askance at Jay veering into Kyle Wingman’s beat.
Division of labor you know.
kayaker 71
October 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
BuckeyeInGa, 8:49,
The 8% is after the numbers have been massaged. For most every job that Bozo has “created”, someone has left the workplace. We have few people working now than we did in 2008. That BS about creating millions of jobs is nothing but campaign rhetoric.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
Mick,
Obama has taking the art of lying to dizzying new heights. even Bill Clinton is impressed.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
8:55 am
0311 — “Replicant: Nukes have kept us from WW III, WW IV and probably WW V.”
Kamchak’s Corollary at work again, I see. Why don’t you just give them credit for stopping a new world war every week since the Trinity test?
The Chinese version of this is that a young newlywed couple gets 1000 renminbi for the first child they don’t have, then another 500 renminbi for each additional child they don’t have.
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
Butch!
How’s NYC?
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
**Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush**
Not intended to be a factual statement. Bush disbanded the search for bin laden in 2006 because he did not no where he was, nor did he care remember???
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:56 am
How’s that 2010 Republican jobs campaign coming along?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Ben Shockley: “America has a debt problem..”
Well, looks like you’re SOL on that one pal. Nobody that either of the two big corporate capitalist parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, just two faces of the ruling class, has put forward will make one bit of difference in the debt. So if that’s your main concern — tough luck for you.
But really, what you ought to be more worried about is the increasing social unrest and a breakdown of the already strained social fabric and cohesion due to the skyrocketing wealth inequalities under oligarchic rule. THAT’s what you really ought to be worried about.
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Butch,
If $500 billion deficits are a “failure of leadership” (Obama’s own words) what should we call $1.5 trillion deficits?
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
Ben Shockley – “even Bill Clinton is impressed.”
He must be, look how much he’s helping Obama beat Romney. http://www.electoral-vote.com/.
St Simons
October 2nd, 2012
8:57 am
True, we have firmly in power two factions of the capitalist party,
and no one to represent workers, students, old, sick, children, etc.
Do not mistake my support for Obama as endorsement.
It is a step, one of many, in a direction. in a long journey.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Ahem — “They know who is going to win.”
If he’s “going to win,” then why bother helping him?
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Hey, Welcome to the Occupation….
Have you tried occupying a job?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
TaxPayer: “How’s that 2010 Republican jobs campaign coming along?”
JOEBBBS? WEDONNEEED NO STINKIN JOBBZ!!!! HEEEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
Mick
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
ben
Also, the cost of the wars was kept off the books, then obama put them on the books, hence the deficit of 1.5 trillion – math…
TaxPayer
October 2nd, 2012
8:58 am
Breaking News: A red-headed clown named Bozo has created more jobs than the Republicans have since their 2010 jobs campaign.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
8:59 am
Thomas
Yes, most of us get duped and I suspect you’ve been duped by the GOP countless times.
I’m quite sure that I have never been duped by any Presidential candidate. EVER.
With all the data available current and historical somebody would have to be a huge imbecile to fall for somebody like Mitt, or McCain, or Ryan, or Bush (either one) or Cheney or Palin or Nixon or Agnew….
That’s epic fail stupid.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
Jm – “Butch!
How’s NYC?
Hey Jm, right now it’s just rainy. Hoping to get out on the Can Am on Friday and take a ride to the upper Hudson . How’s Florida?
TiredOfIt
October 2nd, 2012
9:00 am
Ben Shockley
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
Obama foreign policy – “We got Bin Laden!”
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.
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What part of “We” do you not understand?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:01 am
Ben Shockley: “Have you tried occupying a job?”
We don’t occupy jobs my friend. Capitalists occupy jobs and give them out stingily, like the cold misers that they are. Got to get the direction of the transitive verb right bud.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:01 am
Ben Shockley – “If $500 billion deficits are a “failure of leadership” (Obama’s own words) what should we call $1.5 trillion deficits?”
I’d call them crappy. However, I haven’t commented on them before.
BuckeyeInGa
October 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
kayaker 71 8:54
Did Reagen, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II massage those same numbers as well? If so what was the non massaged unemployment numbers?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:03 am
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.
Wow. These loons, never much for shame, are completely beside themselves. Robbed of their rah rah! foreign policy thus talking points, they shrivel into a puddle of incoherence. Lol
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
Butch 9am
Rainy as well, but nice weekend weather, was out on the water on Saturday
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
This description of Romney by John Kass of Chicago Trib, hardly a bleeding leftie, is so hilarious, I just had to share:
Let’s admit it. Romney is a stiff, the guy in the Kohl’s Father’s Day catalog, the fellow with the hard grin and the hard crease in the pleated khakis.
joe
October 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
Fixed your headline:
Obama lying, distorting and breaking laws just to get re-elected
Sub-header– so he can turn our freedom/capitalism into security/socialism
When Obozo says he envisions greater security for our country, that is code for greater government control by any means necessary.
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
“Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders? Which version of the story are we on now, number 13? From the most open and transparent administration in our nation’s history?”
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Two points:
\First, blogspot is ready when you are.
\Second, this “Libya conspiracy disaster” thing only plays inside your bubble, not in the real world.
Cosby
October 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
It is all a scam – Dems and Repubs..but Jay only thinks the Repubs and the rich are to blame..Hmmm Barney fife keeping Fannie and Freddie out of the reform act while his lover makes millions in bonuses, Holder – the Obama Attorney General – not going after executives at Goldman’s sacks due to their influence and contributions to Obama, Fannie and Freddie pushing banks to provide stupid loans to people who could not afford them – IE the reason for the recession – The Dems in charge of both houses of congress in 2007 – before the big recession that is still going on and then having charge for two (2) more years…but wait, according to Jay it is the evil rich and the evil Republicans causing all the tough times on the middle class….how about the full story Jay..oh and how about Obama giving almost a trillion dollars to green energy while they back doored contributions to him, or how about the taxes to the poor and middle class inside the Avordable Health Care Act..Yep Jay, lets just tell one side of the story….
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
Has anyone ever noticed that Hannitys on air time could be reduced to 1 hour a week? It’s not that I don’t enjoy watching him, it’s just that every night he says exactly the same thing. Look Sean, we get that you don’t like Obama and you enjoy pummeling Juan Williams. Do you really need 5 nights a week to demonstrate this?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
9:10 am
BuckeyeInGa
October 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
kayaker 71 8:54
Did Reagen, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II massage those same numbers as well? If so what was the non massaged unemployment numbers?
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Pardon me, but I thought you’d like the real answer.
UE numbers are calculated 2 ways.
Un employed and Under employed. – hence the two numbers.
K71 and other conspiracy fans have started to claim that the
government is somehow falsifying the numbers.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
Has Bookman started a blog about all the lies coming from the Obama White House about the embassy terrorist attack/murders?
No. We rely on you and the other non thinkers to post the talk radio lies here. Thanks for your tireless dedication to lies and disinformation. You get the Rush gold star to take home to mommy. 30 more lies and you’ll get the Dr. Goebbels award of lying excellency.
Paul
October 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
Morning, all.
Nice illustration this morning: there’s simple trolling, then there’s an obvious, desperate need for attention.
Look kindly on those with such special needs.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
joe: “Sub-header– so he can turn our freedom/capitalism into security/socialism”
Sorry, dude. Your precious ‘freedom/capitalism’ was already rotted out from the inside before the Obamster ever set foot at Penn Ave, as any careful analysis will show.
It’s oligarchy now. Freedom and capitalism now have no more to do with each other than feudalism and Christian virtue.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
Cosby@9:09 am
You post this: “lets just tell one side of the story….” In the same paragraph as this: “Fannie and Freddie pushing banks to provide stupid loans to people who could not afford them – IE the reason for the recession”
Ever heard of the word ironic?
Regnad Kcin
October 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
“The 8% is after the numbers have been massaged”
It’s so cute that, when they don’t have a REAL point, the cons move the goalposts with stuff like this. We only measure unemployment numbers in one consistent way, so it’s fair to compare between administrations, UNLESS it’s Obama – then we have to make up some way for him to look worse, whether it’s reality-based, or not.
Seriously, you got nothin’, right?
bman
October 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
Butch .. .. Isn’t that true with nearly every show, articles, editorials or blog posts?
Southern Pride
October 2nd, 2012
9:13 am
So the Democratic administration bailed out Wall Street, but now Wall Street is supporting the Republicans instead of the people who bailed them out? That doesn’t make any sense. There are some parts and pieces missing from this viewpoint. I’m not trying to judge Republicans or Democrats here; I’m just saying something about the logic doesn’t fit and there are some facts missing one way or the other.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:14 am
Yo Butch: The same could have been said about Boortz for the last 4 years. His show is nothing but “I hate Obama” and “Obama is a communists and libruls suck.”
It’s sad because before that, whether or not you agreed with his politics, Boortz’s show was funny and entertaining.
OBIWAN
October 2nd, 2012
9:15 am
What a joke, democrats are delusional if they think that ONLY the republicans are getting Wall Street $$$….But only an uneducated, biased loser would believe that, right libs?
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:15 am
LOL Paul. I love it. We’ll try to be nice to our short bus participants, just because you asked us.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:16 am
bman – “Butch .. .. Isn’t that true with nearly every show, articles, editorials or blog posts?”
To a degree, yes. However, Hannity literally says the exact same thing, night after night after night verbatim. At least in the examples you provided, the individuals try to somewhat keep it interesting and change up the dialogue from time to time.
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:17 am
“Obama foreign policy – “We got Bin Laden!”
Well, actually, it was special forces guys working with tactics and intelligence set in motion under Bush, but hey…at least Barack was willing to take a cell phone call on the golf course and give the go-ahead.”
The hypocrisy and duplicity of wingnuts is simply staggering…
Obama is personally responsible for maintaining the guard’s schedules and duty rosters in our foreign embassies but gets no credit for killing public enemy #1 (you know, OBL, the guy W and Rummy allowed to ride away from Tora Bora on the back of a donkey…)
This is but one of the many reasons wingnuts have no credibility… Simply stunning…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 2nd, 2012
9:17 am
Southern Pride
October 2nd, 2012
9:13 am
So the Democratic administration bailed out Wall Street, but now Wall Street is supporting the Republicans instead of the people who bailed them out? That doesn’t make any sense. There are some parts and pieces missing from this viewpoint. I’m not trying to judge Republicans or Democrats here; I’m just saying something about the logic doesn’t fit and there are some facts missing one way or the other.
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You are making more complicated than it is.
Wall street supported President Obama so he could save the economy.
They support Romney now so he can save their life styles.
Easy. Peasy.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 2nd, 2012
9:18 am
OBIWAN – “What a joke, democrats are delusional if they think that ONLY the republicans are getting Wall Street $$$….But only an uneducated, biased loser would believe that, right libs?”
Agreed, but please show us where anyone on this board has said that ONLY Republicans get donations from Wall Street.
Fred ™
October 2nd, 2012
9:19 am
Jm
October 2nd, 2012
9:05 am
Butch 9am
Rainy as well, but nice weekend weather, was out on the water on Saturday
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It’s just an Obama librul lie that you can’t breath under water. You should try it next time you are out.
Thomas
October 2nd, 2012
9:19 am
From the NYT
The sophisticated tax strategies of Bain and other private equity firms begin with the basic architecture of their funds
sophisticated is code (no pun intended) for tax attorney full employment products.
Simplify and expand simplify and expand Why have an estate tax that 99% of the folks simply legally avoid (see your boy Buffett)
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:21 am
So if W has no reponsibility for the state of the economy he left us when he scurried back under his rock 3 years in, why does he get credit for military actions undertaken 3 years in?
W, Rummy, and Cheney have the blood of each and every military casualty incurred in Afghanistan since the night Osama Bin Laden rode out from under their noses on the back of a donkey… As well they are responsible for EVERY casualty incurred in Iraq, their war of choice based on their outright lies and fabrications.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:22 am
joe — “When Obozo says he envisions greater security for our country, that is code for greater government control by any means necessary.”
The fish wears a red tie. The hamster is out of its cage. The second fish wears a blue tie. Banana! Banana! The sandwich has been left in the street.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 2nd, 2012
9:23 am
OBIWAN: “What a joke, democrats are delusional if they think that ONLY the republicans are getting Wall Street $$$….But only an uneducated, biased loser would believe that, right libs?”
C’mon buddy, catch up. The whole premise of this discussion was that Obama took large sums from Wall Street in ‘08. No one’s denying that.
JamVet
October 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
…set in motion under Bush…
As was the most devastating economic implosion in nearly a hundred years.
That knife cuts both ways, bushlicker…
St Simons
October 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
count the number of times they say ‘duped’ today.
-if you’re into counting.
-i mean, if counting is your thing….
man, that one must have focus-polled thru the roof
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:24 am
Cosby — “Fannie and Freddie pushing banks to provide stupid loans to people who could not afford them – IE the reason for the recession”
Good job. That’s the second time on this thread that debunked bulldada has been yanked from the grave.
It’s still bulldada, though.
Yo!
October 2nd, 2012
9:25 am
In 2008, only one candidate spoke out against Wall Street while taking their money—Obama. I know Romney’s a Wall Street guy.
Who knew Obama was?
bwahahahaha
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 2nd, 2012
9:25 am
I forget who it was (Fred I think) but you were sure right !
Jay’s late thread last night means he is sleeping in this morning …………….
Peadawg
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
Rightwing Troll
October 2nd, 2012
9:21 am
You forgot to add Obama to that list since we’re still over there 3 1/2 years into his term.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
B. Cassidy — “Has anyone ever noticed that Hannitys on air time could be reduced to 1 hour a week? It’s not that I don’t enjoy watching him, it’s just that every night he says exactly the same thing. Look Sean, we get that you don’t like Obama and you enjoy pummeling Juan Williams. Do you really need 5 nights a week to demonstrate this?”
His radio show’s much the same, except with less Juan Williams pummeling and more faux indignation and “it’s outrageous” and “it’s unbelievable” pronouncements from him.
Ahem
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
Juarez drug cartel leader ‘El Diego’ was captured with Fast and Furious weapons
When Mexican authorities took Juarez drug cartel carnage king Jose Antonio Acosta Hernandez — better known as “El Diego” — into custody, he had weapons from Operation Fast and Furious on his person, the English-language transcript of the Spanish-language television network Univision’s special investigation into the scandal shows.
“According to investigations, ‘El Diego’ forms the link between this massacre and Fast and Furious,” an anchor read on air in Spanish Sunday evening, referring to two different mass killings drug cartel operatives used Fast and Furious weapons to conduct as Univision reported.
“When he [El Diego] was captured in Chihuahua in the summer of 2011, he was found with weapons that the American government had allowed to enter Mexico,” the anchor added.