Travelin’ music? SHE’ll tell you about travelin’ music!

Bettye Lavette’s been around a while. In fact, if you were touring back in the early ’60s with the likes of Ben E. King, Otis Redding and James Brown, and you’re still at it today, you qualify as an authentic R&B veteran. That’s a marathon runner in the musical world.

And as you’ll see if you watch this remarkably emotional performance from just a couple of years ago, Bettye does not sell her audience short. To the contrary, she sells everything she’s got and then some.

Ladies and gentlemen, to kick off the weekend, I give you the fabulously soulful Miss Bettye Lavette!

– Jay Bookman

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Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...and liking it!

September 30th, 2012
11:05 am

Coming back from the store, I heard this guy on NPR…

I never heard of him before and if you had, I apologize, but this guy is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVjl2axlvmE

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5teMqHsThI

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:06 am

Stevie Ray

SO the children of the recipients of those entitlements don’t need HC or food?

They don’t deserve education so that they can do more than their parents?

I really don’t understand the argument for the punishment of the children due to their parents choices.

IMO

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:08 am

GETALIFE

No doubt…of course the GOP, if I recall, controlled both houses of Congress so it was impossible for Clinton not to work with them..I think the best outcome for us is if whomever is the president, that both houses are controlled by opposite party..

Also, I think we need to figure out a way to break up the banks or otherwise get them to lend…financial services companies over-react when the market shifts…too cheap when the market indicators suggest, then they basically shut down when the pendulum sweeps back the other way…

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:09 am

“The gop worked with President Clinton.”

Because he said the era of big government was over and acted accordingly.

Obama, the opposite.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:11 am

The Nutster is on Face the Nation

:-)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:11 am

COMMON,

How you drew that conclusion is beyond me…my point is that while HC is needed for those, we nor our kids can sustain the taxes required to offset the ballooning entitlement expenses, particularly at a 3:1 outpacing of birth rates between unlikely tax payers and likely..

This includes all entitlements…what happens in 15 years or so when the cost of entitlements get to such a point per birth growth, baby boomers and cost inflation?

JamVet

September 30th, 2012
11:13 am

They refused to work with President Obama.

And why when one looks at the horrific approval rating for the US Congress, take a wild guess which party drags that number down even further?

The Party of No.

The quote of the day for the Mitt Romney voters – The man who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-wnlBveFA&feature=related

bman

September 30th, 2012
11:14 am

“The gop worked with President Clinton.”

and Clinton worked with the GOP

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 30th, 2012
11:15 am

didn’t check to see if they were stand alone. My bad on that one. When I did a search for republican jobs bills, that was the first site that came up

NP– you have to realize that most of the republican house has been in public office for YEARS; they know how to scam, swindle, and “bullsh###t” with the best of them. It takes a bullsh###t artist to spot another bullsh###t artist.

As an old skooler would tell ya – “You can’t play a playa”.

Stevie: The CBO rate is that those getting subsidy have birth rate at 3x’s that of those not recieving..

Yes but you’d have to believe in the theory that, here in the U.S.; that the majority of those born in poverty will likely STAY in poverty all their lives.

History shows this is not true. With the advent of access to colleges and technical schools through student loans at low interest rates, (I added the low interest rate part), people can and HAVE pulled themselves out of poverty. If they have the Will there is a Way.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:15 am

“Stevie Ray

SO the children of the recipients of those entitlements don’t need HC or food?

They don’t deserve education so that they can do more than their parents?

I really don’t understand the argument for the punishment of the children due to their parents choices.”

No leading GOP politician is arguing for cutting child healthcare or food for the poor

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:18 am

Common

Michelle Rhee is awesome

getalife

September 30th, 2012
11:19 am

The majority of Americans will not reward the gop for refusing to work with our President and attacking him after a collapse and a attack.

It is that simple.

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:19 am

NoCom @ 10:48

:lol: :lol:

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:19 am

Stevie Ray

My point was (which I didn’t state clearly) that we HAVE to let the people on the entitlements Hope that they can get a decent paying job and support their families.

The FACT is that during the last 20 years we have ignored the undocumented alien problem (which took many construction and hospitality jobs)

This threw many into the cycle of poverty that we are facing today.

Lack of local gov’t involvement in education (it was the feds job) led to under achievement.

BOTH parties are at fault.

If we keep electing the same dumbasses we have been electing we will be totally screwed in 20 years.

IMO

Jay

September 30th, 2012
11:20 am

“No leading GOP politician is arguing for cutting child healthcare or food for the poor”

Absolutely, 100 percent bunch of baloney. Almost EVERY leading GOP politician is arguing for cutting both child healthcare (Medicaid funds most of that, for example through Georgia’s PeachCare program, and Medicaid is a primary target for GOP budget cutters) and food for the poor, through substantial cuts to food stamps.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:21 am

Common 11:19

The poor don’t need benefits in perpetuity

They need jobs (Obama fail) and relevant job retraining (Obama fail)

Fire Obama

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 30th, 2012
11:23 am

Trickle down prosperity is a better solution than trickle up poverty.

Since you were making boom in you diaper when Reagan was elected, you have no personal experience with anything other than trickle-on.

getalife

September 30th, 2012
11:24 am

Stevie Ray,

The gop were country first back then.

Now they are failed party first and and don’t care about the country and only care about the wealthy.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:24 am

Jay 11:20

Medicaid can be reformed and take care of every poor child

Healthcare for children is incredibly inexpensive

Food stamps can be cut and also still take care of every child (period) and many of the parents

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:27 am

Since you were making boom in you diaper when Reagan was elected, you have no personal experience with anything other than trickle-on.

____________________________________

But he has been told and read plenty of TALL TALES about supply side and trickle down, so he has bought in despite the facts over the last 30 yrs……….

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:27 am

Jay 11:20

I left one word off my post at the end. “children”

Yes, the GOP does want to roll back food stamps in aggregate

Not for children

IMO. Since I’m not a GOP spokesperson

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 30th, 2012
11:27 am

Normal – Fullbright huh? Any relation to the Fullbright of Fullbright scholarships?

And yes, he is good. :)

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:28 am

Stevie Ray

He did benefit from the dot com boom. I disagree with the capital gains thing though. I think they could go up a bit and not do harm to the economy.

JamVet

September 30th, 2012
11:28 am

Once again, Jm gets called out for lying on this forum.

For the four hundred and thirty ninth time this year. (grin)

Fire Jm and get a better class of con blogger….

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:29 am

JM

In NC food stamps (SNAP) is $200 for a single adult and for a family the max is $700 a month.

How much do you and your wife pay for food per month?

Jay

September 30th, 2012
11:29 am

In other words, jm, having been caught in your lie, you now claim that the lie doesn’t matter?

In a matter of minutes you go from no such cuts are being proposed to arguing that we can just magically make major cuts in such programs without affecting beneficiaries?

To do that without shame … well, says a lot, is all I’m saying.

Seriously weak.

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:31 am

“They need jobs (Obama fail) and relevant job retraining (Obama fail)”

Job training. Agreed, that has been a problem for years now

Job creation: When did the President start creating jobs. Let me guess, there is all this pend up demand but certain corporations are not hiring because they have some of the lowers rates they have had in yrs but want them lower and regs are just killing America

That is the same mantra that has been preached since before Reagan………

LOOK UP THE NUMBERS, facts are not on your side.

The “theory” of it all sounds alright, but the numbers do not add up.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:32 am

DEBBIE,

So are you submitting that more folks will rise from the need for government subsidy to full employment over the next 15 years than the past 15?

This is a real problem…I have not reason to believe that that will be true…actuarially and socially, its a big problem…if more kids are being born into poverty etcetera at a multiple of others, something is fundamentally wrong…either the entitlements are too rich or laiden with too much waste, some incentive(s) exist amongst the distributions, or there is otherwise not incentive to rise above…

Our most significant (IMO) security risk is undoubtedly the deficit/debt….how much more can we toloerate? Is kicking the can down the field for votes and increasing entitlements to the tune of $200+ million a year per HC plan without offsets really a sound strategy? To me it’s all politics, within a broken system resulting in nothing less than flawed outcomes…we are screwed..

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:32 am

Jay

As a Penn State grad what is your OPINION on if PS should have been given the death penalty?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:35 am

BRO

See page 2 for summary..without fail, cuts in capital gains have had a stimulative effect on revenues…

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:35 am

Jay

When one willfully allows themselves to get caught up in the “trickle on” theory of economics, apparently the facts do not matter.

Amazing that otherwise intelligent people can see the squeeze on the middle class since the 1980s to what is culminating today, yet still think if we can just lower taxes a little more……… it will be another boom time for all.

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:36 am

Since you were making boom in you diaper when Reagan was elected

Now thass funny!!!!!

:lol: :lol:

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 30th, 2012
11:36 am

TBS: But he has been told and read plenty of TALL TALES about supply side and trickle down, so he has bought in despite the facts over the last 30 yrs……….

Facts are like Kryptonite to republicans or like water to the wicked witch. Throw some facts on em and they’ll start melting….

==================

Not for children

No they just want to cut early education initiatives like Head Start, just in case one of those “Head Starters” grow up to become Mayor of Atlanta or something. Don’t want them to become smart enough to lead, just smart enough to flip hamburgers…………. :roll:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 30th, 2012
11:37 am

BOTH

That’s the problem — a generation of economist wannabes have been indoctrinated by higher learning institutions about this laissez-faire crap, and their only argument is that if we would just give it a little more time, then it will work. But they are completely ignoring the fact that under this neo-classical economics wealth has been concentrated and horded.

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:37 am

So are you submitting that more folks will rise from the need for government subsidy to full employment over the next 15 years than the past 15?
_________________________________

Of course I have no idea what DDR will say, but government assistance for most has not ever been a life time endeavor.

I would challenge you to see out those numbers and facts which will show that most utilize the various programs only when they are unemployed or under employed.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:38 am

Stevie Ray

So when you were driving by all those subdivisions being built and only saw Hispanics working you didn’t wonder where all the white and black men went? Or what jobs they had?

The developers made a killing (by paying low wages and selling for high prices) while many US citizens started falling into the poverty cycle AND YOU BLAME THEM?

You are being hypocritical for not blaming any and ALL who were part of that issue.

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:38 am

without fail, cuts in capital gains have had a stimulative effect on revenues…

Bubbles have also had a stimulative effect on revenues. Long term reprecussions have been far worse though. Cuts in capital gains do nothing but enhance wealth accumulation. Accumulation does not help long term when our economy requires consumption to keep it going.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:40 am

“In other words, jm, having been caught in your lie, you now claim that the lie doesn’t matter?

In a matter of minutes you go from no such cuts are being proposed to arguing that we can just magically make major cuts in such programs without affecting beneficiaries?”

What bluster. You want to crucify me for leaving one word off my statement? Fine. Par for the course from media types these days.

I wasn’t lying and haven’t been caught in a lie.

Yes, I will readily admit republicans want to reform and cut food stamp spending.

But not for children, and not by Romney.

Would they cut food stamp spending on cokes and candy? I hope so. God knows they need to.

Woodstock Mike

September 30th, 2012
11:41 am

Obama’s accomplishments in his first 4 years are arguably the worst of any president in US history. Almost every single economic indicator is terrible. Yet Democrats defend and support this president with all their heart and soul. Just doesn’t make any sense? I’m not saying at all that Romney could come in and magically solve the issues but when you see this full support for a president that obviously hasn’t done well it shows that no matter what he does, no matter how bad he is, most Democrats will support him forever.

bman

September 30th, 2012
11:41 am

There are far too many people on the food stamp program. My own little personal theory is that people are piggybacking this program to death. I dont know how it all works, but I understand that some people do need the assistance.

If you shop at stores other than Whole Foods, and pay attention of the people around, you will see someone one food stamps each trip.

Jay

September 30th, 2012
11:42 am

Common, I think the penalties — and they were and are significant — are appropriate.

To tell you the truth, with the players they lost, both in those already on the roster and those recruits who were lost — I wouldn’t have been surprised if PSU had lost almost all of its games. It’s going to be a long haul back, and it ought to be.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:42 am

Common 11:29

$2 billion a year is spent on sugar drinks by the food stamp program every year

That’s retarded

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:42 am

GETALIFE

This isn’t your typical GOP versus DEM issue so your directing of blame to the GOP for this situation falls on deaf ears…I realize that the GOP is to blame for all that is wrong or bad and most of those posters here would just prefer to see the GOP disband…that is irrelevant to my point.

I have no data that suggests or estimates a number of folks rising away from government entitlements…pretty scary when you think about it eh?

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:43 am

Kam & DDR

Jm stated the other night that the US has not had higher job creation numbers during times where the avg corporate and individual tax rates were not higher than today.

Remember Jm? Sure you do

He was either being ignorant for ignorance sake, so willingly brainwashed with “supply side” economic theory or both.

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:43 am

Yes, I will readily admit republicans want to reform and cut food stamp spending.

But not for children, and not by Romney.

So, do you honestly think that Romney would veto any legislation generated by a Republican Congress that did make those cuts? Do you think that the GOP will push legislation that will cut food stamp spending for singles and not cut them for families as well? If they push for cuts, those cuts will affect everybody, children included.

I don’t think Romney has the testicular fortitude to veto any legislation that would be fed to him by a GOP Congress. We know as long as Democrats control one house, such legislation would not pass anyway.

Jm (spoof)

September 30th, 2012
11:44 am

DDR 11:36 remember, you’re on ignore

That said, Cutting head start is dumb

getalife

September 30th, 2012
11:45 am

The economists worth listening to are the ones that predicted the collapse and studied the depression.

Any economist that said we should cut after the collapse should resign from their field.

Jay

September 30th, 2012
11:46 am

From AP:

“Ryan’s budget would reduce projected federal spending on Medicaid by about $800 billion over 10 years, dramatically shrinking it as a share of the national economy.

Medicaid serves about 60 million people, roughly 10 million more than Medicare. It’s a diverse population brought together by need. Most Medicaid recipients are low-income children and their mothers, but the costliest cases are severely disabled people, many of them seniors in nursing homes.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:47 am

WOODSTOCK,

Couldn’t agree more..and his next four years, unless the economic fairy visits, the metrics will get worse…employment is predicted to take 10 years to recover in this recession. There is not meaningful plan to do anything other than increase the debt/deficit…we are adding more entitlements and ignoring cuts…its easier to reverse cuts but very difficult to reverse a tax increase..

By any measure, his lack of leadership has been a failure…I think for his supporters, he represents hope in various aspects…some not remotely connected to success…

Too bad hope isn’t a strategy…

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 30th, 2012
11:47 am

Stevie – The past few years, since Clinton’s Welfare To Work initiative has been enacted has proven the theory to be TRUE.

No one is saying give anyone a lifetime of benefits, unless you are some of the few who are truly in need (think paraplegics), but what the “libs” are saying is keep those safety nets in place.

There have been lots of famous people, Romney’s dad is a good example, who had need of assistance for a time, but once they got on their feet; didn’t need it anymore.

Some people will always be poor, the bible speaks of these people when it says, “The poor will always be with you”; however, here in America, especially here in America, you have the propensity to do better than the generation before you and the generation that was before them.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:47 am

“generation of economist wannabes have been indoctrinated by higher learning institutions about this laissez-faire crap”

Funny

tBS 11:43 before you put words in my mouth, why don’t you link to a direct quote?

getalife

September 30th, 2012
11:48 am

Stevie Ray,

I think when the newt shut down government, congress ripped apart. The newt was in the meeting to hatch the plan to get our President for this election. I would kick the newt out of your party if you want to keep your party alive.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:49 am

Jm

I agree that not all the best foods are being bought with food stamps.

But you have to understand that in many areas grocery stores are not within WALKING distance.

Many people who use SNAP don’t own a car and have to rely on public transportation or walk.

That limits the availability of healthy food.

Sugarary drink SHOULDN’T be allowed (since dogfood, toilet paper, etc isn’t either).

But since drinks ARE considered a FOOD GROUP they are.

:-)

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:49 am

Jm

You go find your own quote when you replied to my post about taxes, which spoke about the different kinds of corporations , taxes, etc.

It is out there.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 30th, 2012
11:51 am

“Redeem Israel, O God, from all their troubles!” Psalm 25:22

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 30th, 2012
11:51 am

In other words, jm, having been caught in your lie, you now claim that the lie doesn’t matter?

That’s beside the point.

He is no longer under your permanent ignore fatwa because you have responded to him and in order for you to continue to respond, his allegations must needs become more over the top.

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:51 am

I’m not saying at all that Romney could come in and magically solve the issues

And nobody outside of Conservatives expected the same from Obama. The reason you see people defend Obama from criticism, such as yours, is because people with common sense know things were not going to be corrected in a matter of months or even within 3 years. Our economic issues have been brewing for more than 30 years, so if you expect them to be fixed in less time than that, you’re only fooling yourself.

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:52 am

Common

I would agree that cokes should not be allowed. But I guess if the Reagan administration wanted to cut back on vegetables for school lunch programs by classifying ketchup as a veggie than why cry about people buying cokes with and EBT card.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
11:52 am

Jay

It seems like Ryan is for the Death Panels for the elderly on Medicaid

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Jay 11:46

How about this.

I’ll tell you what I believe.

Medicaid needs reform, and I do think block grants with a few guidelines are a better way to get there.

I personally would not cut Medicaid spending.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Novermber 1, 1962: “American Death Toll in Vietnam Reaches 37″ As of today: 58,195

September 30, 2012: “US Military Deaths in Afghanistan Hit 2,000″ Final tally: ________

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Jay,

Do you really think it is the GOP’s intent to cut anything more than waste? Are you buying into the emotional political hand-jive that Ryan et al want to eliminate benefits for those who will need them?

That’s absurd when you get past all the rhetoric….”vote for Obama, Ryan wants to allow those in poverty starve, in addition to throwing granny over the cliff…” There could be more than one way to interpret his proposal…at least he has courage to put one out there…

How can you suggest that we can continue to sustain these ever increaseing entitlements given the growth of those using same? We could tax 100% of “rich” and maybe offset 1 year or less of deficit spending given current trends…

getalife

September 30th, 2012
11:54 am

Stevie Ray,

The best way to get people off food stamps is focus on middle class jobs and attack the wealth and income gap in our country.

We did this with President Clinton and can do it again with President Obama. It is not rocket science.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
11:56 am

COMMON,

Instead of buying into the DEM rhetoric about Ryans plan which is simply starting point, you may find it beneficial to research any reasons to the contrary to attempt to argue both sides…the idea that the GOP, as evidenced by a single proposal, is hell bent on “death panels’ for those in need…academy award performance for a dramatic role….

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 30th, 2012
11:56 am

1) ” …. so if you expect them to be fixed in less time than that, you’re only fooling yourself.”

2) “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”

3) Soooooo, Obama “fooled himself”.

4) People who “fool themselves” do NOT need to be president again.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
11:57 am

Common 11:49

I understand that challenge

Poor kids shouldn’t be raised on sugar though, and availability isn’t an excuse

Even the poorest convenience stores have a couple of healthier options

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
11:57 am

“which spoke about the different kinds of corporations , taxes, etc.”

Clarification: your reply spoke about the different types of corps, my post spoke about rates and jobs being created

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 30th, 2012
11:58 am

Even the poorest convenience stores have a couple of healthier options

Not intended to be a factual statement.

getalife

September 30th, 2012
11:58 am

As jm giddily and happily want our congress to get their greedy hands on programs that actually help the American people, I think it should be last on the cut list.

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
11:58 am

Do you really think it is the GOP’s intent to cut anything more than waste?

Listen to their ideology and rhetoric and ask yourself that question.

How can you suggest that we can continue to sustain these ever increaseing entitlements given the growth of those using same? We could tax 100% of “rich” and maybe offset 1 year or less of deficit spending given current trends…

Tax 100% of “rich” = http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianhaycox/31701696/

Common Sense isn't very Common

September 30th, 2012
12:01 pm

Bro

The choice seems to be one that either leads to slow growth or the promise that in 30 years we (as if they will still be around) promise the budget will get balanced again.

It seems that what Clinton inherited was balanced within 8 years.

Why doesn’t the Republican plan say the same thing?

I guess the Democrats are more in favor of balancing the budget quicker than the Republicans LOL

:-)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
12:02 pm

GETALIFE

It’s much more of a balancing act that you suggest…food stamps to rise during recession to be sure..but there is more to it than employment…food cost inflation, the as previously suggested 3:1 birthrate of those on some form of subsidy etcetera…I would expect the number of foodstamp recipients to scale back once recovery commences but our issues are well beyond just foodstamps…I do expect food inflation may actually offset any gains we get at that point…

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:02 pm

Re Medicaid

Data at your fingertips

Spending on the elderly is 10x a child, and 6x an adult

The spending on the elderly is needed. But some savings have to be found there

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?ind=213&cat=4

Cutting $80 billion a year out of a program that spends $600 billion is not unreasonable, if done carefully

barking frog

September 30th, 2012
12:03 pm

President has cut growth in
food stamp funding. Food
stamp use will continue to
grow despite this since the
money goes to wealthy
farmers and food processors. Sugar is the
essential food of life.

Orange12

September 30th, 2012
12:04 pm

In reality, this election is probably over after Wed. night. If Romney produces and gets a good message out to the people he’s going to win if not, the election may be out of his reach which is sad because I think Romney has the tools to turn this country around. Obama for another 4 years isn’t going to get the job done.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:04 pm

Tbs 11:57. Yep. Back peddle. Ok though, it happens.

Yes I was pointing out the insanity of our tax code.

Not rates v job growth

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
12:05 pm

BRO,

C’mon….I’d like to see one example of rhetoric from any candidate that they want to starve or otherwise throw granny off the cliff…this is all political scare tactics that DEMS want to believe…

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
12:05 pm

Scout

A one term proposition doesn’t automatically mean he was going to step down. Even you would know that. Hubris is one of your strong qualities.

Erwin's cat

September 30th, 2012
12:06 pm

But he has been told and read plenty of TALL TALES about supply side and trickle down, so he has bought in despite the facts over the last 30 yrs……….

I never realized the entirety of the past 30 yrs was a disaster….that’s about when i graduated HS, worked til 25, put myself thru college, got a good job with a company that later sent me to grad school on their nickle, increased my income several fold, bought a house, got a good mortgage and saved enough to make it thru the recession and recovery despite being laid off for 15 mos and another time for 16mos during the dot com bubble….yes have had UEI for a few of those months and that pittance helped make house payments…but in the end it wasn’t a horrible ride, and mostly enjoyable….such is life huh?

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

OJ12 12:04

Yes Romney does have the tools to right the ship

And democrats are terrified of the result if he proves that is the case

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 30th, 2012
12:08 pm

BRO,

Nice rack on woman on the right:-)

Behave…I gotta jump…drive kid back to Athens…kids at school have no idea how good they have it…and won’t until they get a mortgage…

barking frog

September 30th, 2012
12:08 pm

Medicare for all, subsidized
for the poor. National
Health Insurance operated
by Private Insurance Co.s.

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
12:09 pm

“People who “fool themselves” do NOT need to be president again.”

Yes you cheerfully voted for Bush the 2nd time. Be one thing to vote for him the first, but the 2nd?

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
12:12 pm

“I never realized the entirety of the past 30 yrs was a disaster…”

EC: Did I say that? No you did.

However seeing that “real wages” have stagnated over the last 30yrs, easing of credit standards produced bubbles more than true sustained growth, I stand by my statement.

getalife

September 30th, 2012
12:12 pm

I don’t think we should focus on balancing the budget until full employment.

I think we should lower our debt but if the gop win again, they will blow it again.

I would scare the cons by saying history shows what happens when the wealth and income gap are too high, you get socialism.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:13 pm

Brosephus™

September 30th, 2012
12:13 pm

I guess the Democrats are more in favor of balancing the budget quicker than the Republicans LOL

I guess it’s a matter of actions speaking louder than words. One party is talking about it while the other party is trying to accomplish it.

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I’d like to see one example of rhetoric from any candidate that they want to starve or otherwise throw granny off the cliff

You’re not going to find an example of anybody saying that because it would be political suicide. What you need to do instead is actually follow their ideological positions to their conclusions.

For example, with his budget proposal, Romney wants to cut non-military spending to 4% of GDP if I remember correctly. Look at how much of the budget that would cover and try to formulate a budget using those amounts that would not eviscerate programs. He simply cowers behind his vague statements to hide the truth. He knows that, if he tells the truth, he can kiss this election goodbye.

If you want to see what happens when the rhetoric and ideology runs into the reality of daily life, then here’s the perfect example for you.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/09/26/tea-party-politician-in-fight-for-job-for-keeping-budget-vow/

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

I don’t think we should focus on balancing the budget until full employment. (DISAGREE)

I think we should lower our debt but if the gop win again, they will blow it again. (NOT A CRAZY STATEMENT AT ALL)

I would scare the cons by saying history shows what happens when the wealth and income gap are
too high, you get socialism. (A PROGRESSIVE TAX CODE MAKES SENSE, BUT IT’S A QUESTION OF WHAT KIND OF TAX CODE, NOT PROGRESSIVITY)

Carried interest tax rates are toast no matter who wins.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

Laissez faire has given us a constant state of boom/bust cycles with these cycle coming closer and closer together.

The parasites in the financial industry make money inflating the bubbles, and then they make money by bursting the bubbles then shorting the markets.

http://tinyurl.com/4zsrpfj

Erwin's cat

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

TBS – yep life is a highway and several factors played into the meltdowns and burst bubbles, the pendulum swings both ways thou….ive heard the stagnant wage argument but have never looked at the data for myself so don’t have an opinion…..but i’ll gladly take stagnant wages for 30 yrs over the falling wage of the past 5

Orange12

September 30th, 2012
12:19 pm

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

UGA didn’t drop, kind of surprising. LSU drops to four, don’t understand that. Free Shoes moves up to three. Go figure.

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:19 pm

Mcilroy late to Ryder cup

:) funny

Time zones :)

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:21 pm

Orange12

September 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

“you get socialism.”

Getalife,
Aren’t we kind of on the edges of that now?

Erwin's cat

September 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

kam – I think Krugman was an advocate of the bubble driven economy…the idea being a new bubble would be growing while another is bursting….except there was new bubble this time…i swear i read that in one of his articles….but could be mistaken

Orange12

September 30th, 2012
12:25 pm

Kam,
The parasites in the financial industry make money inflating the bubbles, and then they make money by bursting the bubbles then shorting the markets.

Agree 100%, but how can you stop it?

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:25 pm

Oj12 12:22 yawp

They BOTH suck

September 30th, 2012
12:26 pm

EC

You wages may not have stagnated, but “real wages” for the majority have done just that. Great for those and their efforts who do not fall in that category.

Personally, I do not see the economy getting better for sometime, regardless of who is elected.

Spending has to get in check and I think we need to phase back in the Clinton era rates as well as reviewing the EITC.

As best I think it should be a break even. I really do not agree with someone getting back more than they paid in.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 30th, 2012
12:26 pm

Brosephus:

“A one term proposition doesn’t automatically mean he was going to step down. Even you would know that. Hubris is one of your strong qualities.”

Just backing you up on you own statement ………………….. :o

Jm

September 30th, 2012
12:27 pm

USA v EU

One socialist country v a socialist union

:) (puke)