# Here’s THE math behind the 2012 presidential race

After all the speeches and campaign ads and debates, politics comes down to cold hard numbers. It always has; it always will.

In fact, when you get right down to it, only one number really counts, and every politician and political strategist knows it: 50 percent of those who turn out, plus one more vote to put you over the top. That’s the goal;, that’s the Holy Grail; that’s the number that your entire campaign strategy is designed to achieve because it guarantees election.

OK, in that one instance, getting the most votes earns you a divorce and an ownership stake in a cable channel that no one’s ever watched. But that’s because the presidency is different. To become leader of the free world, a candidate needs a minimum of 270 votes in the electoral college. Failing that, five votes on the U.S. Supreme Court will do.

Today, with the 2012 presidential campaign at full throttle, it seems as though every political scientist in the country hoping to get on Fox or CNN (which is every political scientist in the country) is out there touting his or her own computerized, highly sophisticated predictive model for how this election will turn out.

While others may have math, I have THE math, in the form of my own statistical model. It has been carefully calibrated over the years to the point that after the fact, it has accurately predicted the outcome of every presidential race dating back to Grover Cleveland. In the interest of transparency, I’m about to let you in on the secret details of how it works:

In my model, as in most such models, we start with the basics: The number of women to whom the GOP candidate’s grandfather was married at any one time, which in this case would be (4). You multiply that by the number of extramarital affairs conducted over a lifetime by the spouse of the current secretary of state (237). (CAUTION: This number could shift at any moment.)

You then add the number of emails sent in the past four years depicting the Democratic nominee with a bone through his nose, which would be 457,283. You divide that by the total number of beers and cigarettes tried by the GOP nominee in his lifetime (2), divided again by the total number of beers and cigarettes consumed by the Democrat (58,399).

You multiply that by the square root of the number of hair follicles transplanted into the Democratic VP (√6,798=83.53) divided by the best marathon time fraudulently claimed by the Republican VP nominee (2.55).

Subtract the percentage of Americans gratuitously insulted by the GOP nominee (47), add the number of times in a best-two-out-of-three match that the First Lady would beat you arm-wrestling (3), and then also add the number of dog-lover votes — in units of tens of thousands — lost by the Republican for transporting an aptly named Irish setter (Seamus) on the station-wagon roof (236.5).

Finally, you add the number of percentage points that all polls but Rasmussen are skewed in favor of Democrats (10). Voila!

You now have the mortal-lock number of electoral college votes that the Democratic nominee will win in any given year.

– Jay Bookman

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
7:37 am

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
7:37 am

a cable channel that no one’s ever watched.

cute, but they actually have some decent programming. if you’re in the mood for strident, it’s hard to beat Cenk, f’rinstance (and to be honest, I can take him in rather limited doses)

http://current.com/shows/the-young-turks/

ATLShawty

September 28th, 2012
7:38 am

Jay you forgot to add in the number of Bravo TV shows that begin with the words “Real Housewives of…”

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 28th, 2012
7:39 am

Do they have Cliff Notes for that?

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
7:40 am

You multiply that by the square root of the number of hair follicles transplanted into the Democratic VP (√6,798=83.53) divided by the best marathon time fraudulently claimed by the Republican VP nominee (2.55).

“that is SO not how I calibrated the Gallup House Effect for 2012. You take that back, Bookman!”
–Nate Silver

JohnnyReb

September 28th, 2012
7:41 am

Jay, I think you are on to something. Seems Obama’s presidency uses the same model for decision making. That is when he actually pays attention to important decisions.

Aquagirl

September 28th, 2012
7:43 am

This is why I vote Democrat…the math is way more fun.

Lord Help Us

September 28th, 2012
7:43 am

237! Slick Willie is slowing down!!!

Mr. Snarky

September 28th, 2012
7:43 am

Hmmmm…I seem to have misplaced my abacus and slide rule…is there an app for this?

Jm

September 28th, 2012
7:44 am

Semi-funny

That was a lot of work Jay

Couldn’t you have just said:

Bookman model output – Obama wins

?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
7:44 am

I challenge the hair follicle number.

The angle of the sun divided by the co-efficient of the glare from scalp shows this is obviously incorrect.

You’re skewed Jay.

Lord Help Us

September 28th, 2012
7:46 am

Dammit Jay, You forgot to use your heisenberg compensator…

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
7:47 am

You lost Republicans when you said “math”.

massachusetts refugee

September 28th, 2012
7:49 am

and i was all ready to b!tch at jay for another anti-rominee column. always great to start the day with a laugh out loud!

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
7:52 am

and i was all ready to b!tch at jay for another anti-rominee column.

If the anti-Romney columns affect you in that manner, why would you keep coming back?

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
7:52 am

even through my snot-addled haze, I love this!

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
7:53 am

the only thing that’s made me laugh more than Jay this morning:

http://i.imgur.com/eqG3X.jpg

Citizen of the World

September 28th, 2012
7:54 am

Jay, I”d like to see you calculate that on a big board, a la Glenn Beck. But then you’d have to factor in George Soros’ net worth (3 gazillion), multiplied by Rush Limbaugh’s fighting weight (340).

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
7:55 am

USinner

That is sooooo wrong… But, yeah I laughed at it too. Have you seen Samuel L Jackson’s political ad yet? That one has to be the funniest campaign ad for the entire election period.

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
7:56 am

the only thing that’s made me laugh more than Jay this morning:

I won’t allow myself to laugh until Paul tells me it’s not religiously insensitive.

September 28th, 2012
7:57 am

“add the number of times in a best-two-out-of-three match that the First Lady would beat you arm-wrestling (3)”

With those bony arms? Yeah right.

Mr. Snarky

September 28th, 2012
7:58 am

You forgot to factor every thing by Sheldon Adelson’s ROI on his Romney investment…= -100%

Georgia on my mind...

September 28th, 2012
7:58 am

Jay, in that formula can you predict that the state of Georgia will be won by President Obama??

GT

September 28th, 2012
7:58 am

Can you talk to the dead with this too?

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
7:59 am

“Have you seen Samuel L Jackson’s political ad yet?”

I saw a friend link to it, but haven’t watched it, yet

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
7:59 am

meanwhile, holy crap… 83% now?

Jm

September 28th, 2012
8:00 am

Snarky

He can afford to lose it

Have you seen LVS price since the crisis?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 28th, 2012
8:01 am

JAY,

Classic..however, can you respond to the difference in Rasmussen which is that they use a blend of voter turnout between 2004 and 2008 as opposed to assuming BO will have same turnout as 2008? I think it is a variable that needs considering…if you have seen a cogent argument to assume turnout like 2008, please direct me…perhaps I’m missing something here..

Also, we probably should factor in a few million more evangelists at the polls as a result of the GOP’s offensive policies against women and gays…

Stonethrower

September 28th, 2012
8:01 am

Your forgot to add, The modern lift equation states that lift is equal to the lift coefficient times the density of the air times half of the square of the velocity times the wing area.

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
8:02 am

Jay, in that formula can you predict that the state of Georgia will be won by President Obama?

no, but Nate has it at a whopping 1.8% probability.

But those are better odds higher than winning TX (.4%) or KS (.3%) or Wyoming, Utah or Idaho (0%).

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 28th, 2012
8:03 am

Obama will win simply because it looks like he will spend more..again….it’s not really an election..its and auction…94% elections won by biggest spender…

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
8:04 am

USinner

If it’s the yahoo link, then it’s safe for work. If it’s the actual website WTFU2012.com that’s linked, I wouldn’t advise watching it at work. The best way I can describe it is a combination of Dr. Seuss and Snakes on a Plane.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
8:10 am

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…

September 28th, 2012
8:03 am
Obama will win simply because it looks like he will spend more..again….it’s not really an election..its and auction…94% elections won by biggest spender…

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ain’t it ironic?

all that GOP money and Mitt’s in the hole and paying a bonus to boot.

in the end the forces of GOPism will have spent a gazillion bucks in and around the race and all for naught

makes a granny grin

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
8:11 am

Mitt could be the first black knight in the history of the quest for the presidency to cut off his own arms and legs and then call himself out to come back and fight like a man.

Aquagirl

September 28th, 2012
8:12 am

The best way I can describe it is a combination of Dr. Seuss and Snakes on a Plane.

Or a parody of his reading of the parody “Go the F%#k to Sleep.”

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
8:13 am

Also, we probably should factor in a few million more evangelists at the polls as a result of the GOP’s offensive policies against women and gays…

I really think the GOP’s anti-slut/f@g offensive isn’t going to draw significantly more evangelicals to the polls than had shown up to support Bible Spice in 2008.

Their current “values voters” appeals amount to just shoring up what’s already likely to be there and (IMHO) somewhat inclined to bail on the guy who brought “socialized medicine” to Massachusetts — and did I mention those ROMNEYCARE FIFTY DOLLAR ABORTIONS?

And with that jovial observation, I must produce. Later, Bookmaniax.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
8:13 am

taxpayer

nicht nicht nicht

curious

September 28th, 2012
8:13 am

If the Democrats win due to spending more money, it would seem the Republicans have been beaten at their own game.

1st Amendment wins?

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
8:15 am

Aquagirl

I think the ad is much funnier than the audio book, but yeah, that’s a good description as well.

bob

September 28th, 2012
8:15 am

Obama will win. I would rather Romney win but maybe we would be better off without having the disruption of a new admin being put in place and implementing new ideas. And if Obama keeps the office we would have no disruption due to the tranition. One other thing about electing Obama again is that he has a big list of items to do in the next four years, that list would be called 2008 campaign promises, its a big list.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 28th, 2012
8:16 am

Math is wasted on those living in Rightwingnutistan….

Jay

September 28th, 2012
8:16 am

Stevie Ray, I haven’t seen a discussion of that, but off the top of my head, I think you could use the following logic chain to justify using 2008 turnout as your model:

1) True, some of the excitement around Obama has dimmed since ‘08, reducing turnout of young and minority voters a bit, etc.

2) However, the electorate has also changed over the last four years, with fewer older voters and the share of minority voters increasing.

3) Therefore, with 1 offsetting 2, the 2008 model is appropriate.

Mixing ‘04 with ‘08 is dangerous, it would seem, because the electorate has seen a lot of changes since ‘04. But again, I’m no statistician and this is all off the cuff.

Fly-On-The-Wall

September 28th, 2012
8:17 am

Nice way to start a Friday.

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
8:18 am

” If it’s the actual website WTFU2012.com that’s linked, I wouldn’t advise watching it at work. ”

you obviously don’t know my workplace

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:19 am

One other thing about electing Obama again is that he has a big list of items to do in the next four years, that list would be called 2008 campaign promises, its a big list.

Like what? And what of those items can be accomplished with a hostile Republican House not willing to let him have anything unless their backs are to the wall?

cc

September 28th, 2012
8:19 am

“You lost Republicans when you said “math”.”

Right, we have trouble counting above 16 trillion . . .

Aquagirl

September 28th, 2012
8:20 am

Bro, I think you’re right but I mentioned it because it’s an oft-overlooked classic–unlike the better known “Snakes on a Plane.”

Mr. Jackson has an impressive body of artistic accomplishments.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:21 am

however, can you respond to the difference in Rasmussen which is that they use a blend of voter turnout between 2004 and 2008 as opposed to assuming BO will have same turnout as 2008?

It’s better than using 2010 as your model, which is what he usually starts with.

The real question is this: does a national poll matter? At this point, not at all and both campaigns will tell you they’re ignoring those polls and focusing on the polls in the 6-8 states still in play.

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
8:22 am

USinner

All I can say is enjoy…

After laughing all day about that ad, I’ve thought about writing SLJ to see if he’d be interested in doing audio books for Dr. Seuss. I can only imagine what his version of Green Eggs and Ham would sound like.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
8:22 am

cc

September 28th, 2012
8:19 am
“You lost Republicans when you said “math”.”

Right, we have trouble counting above 16 trillion . . .

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Ah, Nope.

Some folks have a serious mental block against ACcounting for how the largest part of it came to be.

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
8:22 am

Bro – that is STF brilliant!!!

USMC

September 28th, 2012
8:22 am

“Here’s THE math behind the 2012 presidential race”–JAY

That is quite funny and witty, Jay. Nice to see such an angry person can have a sense of humor.

I see that Jay is Using Obamanomics… which has failed miserably on the economy.

We’ll see how JAY’S numbers add up in November!

In 2013, Hope for Change!

Holy Moly!

September 28th, 2012
8:24 am

Harvesting – Just hearing that word makes me think of fall, pumpkins, colors on the trees, kids in costumes and fun holidays around the corner. Now Romney goes and blows that for me! Scumbag! HuffPost has the EC at Obama – 332 to Romney – 191.

USMC

September 28th, 2012
8:25 am

“You lost Republicans when you said “math”.”–W2 Taxpayer

Oh wait….

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
8:26 am

“which has failed miserably on the economy. ”

yep – we’ve only been in positive GDP growth for 3 years! my god!! the fail!!!

Paul

September 28th, 2012
8:26 am

So, Jay, will you give us advance notice of when you’re booked for your CNN and Fox appearances?

BTW- Newt Gingrich was on Morniing Joe this morning for an extended discussion. Worth watching the replay.

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
8:27 am

Mr. Jackson has an impressive body of artistic accomplishments.

He’s one of my favorites out of Hollywood. I’ve been a fan since his Spike Lee days.

Holy Moly!

September 28th, 2012
8:29 am

And now Romney people are lowering expectations of the first debate because Obama is such an effective communicator. Think the rehearsals are going badly?

Duper

September 28th, 2012
8:29 am

99% lick butt
1% kick butt

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:30 am

yep – we’ve only been in positive GDP growth for 3 years! my god!! the fail!!!

There you go with that math-thing again. The numbers are cooked to show whatever Obama wants, dontcha know?

Hoover is my hero

September 28th, 2012
8:31 am

We Republicans have got this election in the bag. I’m not even going to bother voting on November 9, because why pile on?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 28th, 2012
8:31 am

GRANNY,

Yes the irony is clear and humorous…that doesn’t change the fact that all elections are basically auctions…better if we get private money out and limit funding to public funds…

I also think it is ironic that our federal government is the first of any to have to account for at trillion dollars….now unless you believe the feds are flawless in all they do, this is funny…who know what the margin of error is in where we really are in financial terms…They may with the help of excel, count to a trillion but accounting for same is different issue…IMO

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:32 am

And now Romney people are lowering expectations of the first debate because Obama is such an effective communicator.

Both sides are working to lower expectations. Obama’s camp yesterday claimed he hadn’t had time to do much debate prep. It’s just a game they both play. Pretty soon one of the Obama will claim that the dog ate their debate prep… Romney camp can’t claim that one.

Williebkind

September 28th, 2012
8:32 am

Well lets talk about polls and not about the cover up of the terrorist attack on the US emabassy that killed four Americans. Was it a cover up or a deliberate lie. Well, now because of the cover up or the deliberate lie the producer of the video that the present administration used for the cover up is now being prosecuted on some trumped up charge. Now aint that sweet! First amendment rights apply only to liberals/communist and not to anyone who disagrees with their platform. Just how low can progressive liberals/communists go to deceive voters of this country.

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
8:32 am

Right, we have trouble counting above 16 trillion . . .

Really. Most Republicans have ten fingers and ten toes so there’s still room to grow.

JKL2

September 28th, 2012
8:33 am

Jay- You multiply that by the number of extramarital affairs conducted over a lifetime by the spouse of the current secretary of state (237).

Are you sure that isn’t an annual figure?

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:33 am

better if we get private money out and limit funding to public funds…

My vote would be to limit campaign season to 3 months tops and make the timing random.

Reebok

September 28th, 2012
8:33 am

Good stuff, esp regarding Al Gore.

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
8:33 am

The unskewed polling website ran Jay’s formula and determined Romney is ahead 386-70.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 28th, 2012
8:33 am

Just simplify it like Dick Morris and Stuart Varney. Look at the current poll numbers, and if you don’t believe them, just make up some nuimbers of your own and claim that your model is the most accurate. Romney wins!

USMC

September 28th, 2012
8:33 am

“Here’s THE math behind the 2012 presidential race”–JAY BOOKMAN

Here is some more math related to the 2012 presidential election: \$11/hr to protest

SEIU Paid Protesters \$11/hr to protest at Romney Cleveland Ohio Rally

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:34 am

Well lets talk about polls and not about the cover up of the terrorist attack on the US emabassy that killed four Americans.

Go ahead, blogger.com is ready when you are. That way people can laugh at the stuff you write… or just ignore it.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 28th, 2012
8:34 am

Williebekind – “Just how low can progressive liberals/communists go to deceive voters of this country.”

Not sure, what’s the lowest threshold for the Republicans?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 28th, 2012
8:34 am

JAY,

Appreciate your response…all I can find is a general statments about the turnout variable but it seems to be the reason behing Rasumussen..while many think the favorable polls with help him, i think it may backfire and empower a higher turnout of religious zealots and the like…

It’s easy for the LIBS to feel better about themselves by referring to one of the 87 polls being taken…this could turnout to be false hope..

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:36 am

\$11/hr to protest

See? Unions are why qualified people get paid more than minimum wage. How much has the Romney camp paid for fake protesters?

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
8:36 am

“SEIU Paid Protesters \$11/hr to protest at Romney Cleveland Ohio Rally”

that’s better than mine managers REQUIRING their employees to go to a Romney Rally, then not paying them for it – oh, with the added sweetener that they’d be fired if they didn’t go

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197863/Mitt-Romney-Company-defends-decision-dock-miners-days-pay-pressuring-attend-pro-coal-rally.html

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
8:36 am

Obama’s camp yesterday claimed he hadn’t had time to do much debate prep.

This reminds me–I do hope that some time before I die. the videos of the mock debates where John Kerry plays the part of Mitt Romney, are made available to the public.

That’s gotta be comedy gold. (well, for messed-up political junkies like me anyway.)

/drive-by

USMC

September 28th, 2012
8:36 am

“Really. Most Republicans have ten fingers and ten toes so there’s still room to grow.”–W2 Taxpayer

Yeah, but unlike you, Republicans wear shoes.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
8:37 am

“It’s easy for the LIBS to feel better about themselves by referring to one of the 87 polls being taken”

okay, that’s just funny.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:37 am

It’s easy for the LIBS to feel better about themselves by referring to one of the 87 polls being taken…this could turnout to be false hope..

Actually, not ONE, but ALL BUT ONE. When you have to look at exactly one poll while ignoring all the rest to make yourself feel better, then your side is losing badly.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
8:37 am

stevie

auctions?

Sad that you think so poorly of America and Americans.

If it were really an auction we’d have been the united states of adelson, or walton or yes even soros long ago.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

September 28th, 2012
8:38 am

“Not sure, what’s the lowest threshold for the Republicans?”

don’t think they have a lowest threshold

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 28th, 2012
8:39 am

Willie,

I hear you..I’d like some of the LIBS to weigh in on the WH’s take and response in the first week after incident in Libya..I understand despite claims by this inept Rice chick, the FBI is not even in Libya investigating still…President Spineless does nothing…first attempting to hide behind the idea that he wasn’t responsible…it was a film makers fault..this despite overbearing evidence to the contrary..

JamVet

September 28th, 2012
8:39 am

You forgot to account for Hubble’s Law, aka the Red Shift Constant.

Whereby the universe is contracting and the earth’s climate is cooling.

Those two factors change everything.

Sorry, and don’t shoot the messenger, but his proves a Romney win in November.

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:39 am

Is Rob Portman playing the debate part of Obama like having both teams on the field wearing their light-colored jerseys?

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
8:40 am

Yes the irony is clear and humorous…that doesn’t change the fact that all elections are basically auctions…better if we get private money out and limit funding to public funds…

And voting Romney will make that even harder to accomplish in the future. Your best bet on that is to support “President Trillions”. Seems that since the SCOTUS decided that money talks, you’re going to have to get any such legislation to remove money from the election system past that same group. Do you think Romney’s going to nominate someone who will overturn Citizen’s United?

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My vote would be to limit campaign season to 3 months tops and make the timing random.

I’ve stated 5 months. That would give 60 days for primaries and 90 for the general election. I like the idea of random timing though. I may have to work that into my model.

Thomas

September 28th, 2012
8:40 am

In its first year, the Obama administration vowed an increase in transparency across government, including through the Freedom of Information Act, the proactive release of documents and the establishment of an agency to declassify more than 370 million pages of archived material.

Three years later, new evidence suggests that administration officials have struggled to overturn the long-standing culture of secrecy in Washington. Some of these high-profile transparency measures have stalled, and by some measures the government is keeping more secrets than before.

Bushs fault, Romney’s rich, replacement refs, damn cons, Congress sucks but but but Obama is the end all!

Anyway- back to travelin’ music and here is to advertisers to the bookie facebook page

USMC

September 28th, 2012
8:40 am

“that’s better than mine managers REQUIRING their employees to go to a Romney Rally, then not paying them for it – oh, with the added sweetener that they’d be fired if they didn’t go”

Yeah, you’ve got a point there(as usual). The Romney protest thugs need to UNIONIZE by darn it.
I think they are holding out for the free cell phones!

stands for decibels

September 28th, 2012
8:40 am

“SEIU Paid Protesters \$11/hr to protest at Romney Cleveland Ohio Rally”

that’s better than mine managers REQUIRING their employees to go to a Romney Rally, then not paying them for it – oh, with the added sweetener that they’d be fired if they didn’t go

oh, and did y’all know that the AMA required members to pay \$25 to sponsor a nationwide campaign against healthcare reform?

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/drive-by for realz this time and I mean it!

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:40 am

President Spineless does nothing

And your recommendation is what? Bomb the city where the FBI is being blocked from going? What exactly is your recommendation?

USMC

September 28th, 2012
8:42 am

“Here’s THE math behind the 2012 presidential race”–JAY BOOKMAN

Obama Says He Been to 57 States

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:42 am

and by some measures the government is keeping more secrets than before.

When someone writes that, I know it’s being cut-and-pasted from somewhere AND they don’t have numbers to back up their assertions.

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
8:42 am

SEIU Paid Protesters \$11/hr to protest at Romney Cleveland Ohio Rally

Why are you hating on the free market? Are you suggesting that they get paid more because of the union affiliation?

bman

September 28th, 2012
8:43 am

That was pretty good

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

September 28th, 2012
8:43 am

Are you suggesting that they get paid more because of the union affiliation?

No, I think the suggestion is that they GOT paid more because of the union affiliation.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 28th, 2012
8:44 am

BUTCH,

It is true that no poll can project voter turnout and Rasumussen smooths its results by hedging..it makes much more actuarial sense than simply assuming folks will vote in the numbers..particularly Dems, in same fashion of all the others..

Obama will win..of that I am convinced..but IMO it will be a lot closer and nobody should discount the difference at this point…I recall Carter was leading Reagan by double digits..only chance Romney has is if all the religious zealots (millions of which stayed home in 2008) turnout AND Obama turnout more resembles 2004..these are credible variables..

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
8:45 am

Yeah, but unlike you, Republicans wear shoes.

How else is a person expected to walk barefoot uphill in both directions every day, in the snow, silly.

iTS ALL BUSHS FAULT

September 28th, 2012
8:46 am

Cons its over , Have a nice tea party on Mitt.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 28th, 2012
8:46 am

Stevie Ray – “President Spineless does nothing”

I agree, I think that Obama should implement a scorched earth policy for any nation who’s citizens rise up and harm Americans even though the violence is not endorsed by said countries government. As an example, I suggest that Obama immediately nuke Colorado Springs in response to the Dark Knight shooter. That will teach those bastards!

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
8:47 am

Romney is looking for volunteers to take a test flight in his new jet aircraft design. The pay sucks but the the thrill factor is considered priceless.