Here’s THE math behind the 2012 presidential race

After all the speeches and campaign ads and debates, politics comes down to cold hard numbers. It always has; it always will.

In fact, when you get right down to it, only one number really counts, and every politician and political strategist knows it: 50 percent of those who turn out, plus one more vote to put you over the top. That’s the goal;, that’s the Holy Grail; that’s the number that your entire campaign strategy is designed to achieve because it guarantees election.

Just ask President Al Gore.

OK, in that one instance, getting the most votes earns you a divorce and an ownership stake in a cable channel that no one’s ever watched. But that’s because the presidency is different. To become leader of the free world, a candidate needs a minimum of 270 votes in the electoral college. Failing that, five votes on the U.S. Supreme Court will do.

Today, with the 2012 presidential campaign at full throttle, it seems as though every political scientist in the country hoping to get on Fox or CNN (which is every political scientist in the country) is out there touting his or her own computerized, highly sophisticated predictive model for how this election will turn out.

Me, I already know.

While others may have math, I have THE math, in the form of my own statistical model. It has been carefully calibrated over the years to the point that after the fact, it has accurately predicted the outcome of every presidential race dating back to Grover Cleveland. In the interest of transparency, I’m about to let you in on the secret details of how it works:

In my model, as in most such models, we start with the basics: The number of women to whom the GOP candidate’s grandfather was married at any one time, which in this case would be (4). You multiply that by the number of extramarital affairs conducted over a lifetime by the spouse of the current secretary of state (237). (CAUTION: This number could shift at any moment.)

You then add the number of emails sent in the past four years depicting the Democratic nominee with a bone through his nose, which would be 457,283. You divide that by the total number of beers and cigarettes tried by the GOP nominee in his lifetime (2), divided again by the total number of beers and cigarettes consumed by the Democrat (58,399).

You multiply that by the square root of the number of hair follicles transplanted into the Democratic VP (√6,798=83.53) divided by the best marathon time fraudulently claimed by the Republican VP nominee (2.55).

Subtract the percentage of Americans gratuitously insulted by the GOP nominee (47), add the number of times in a best-two-out-of-three match that the First Lady would beat you arm-wrestling (3), and then also add the number of dog-lover votes — in units of tens of thousands — lost by the Republican for transporting an aptly named Irish setter (Seamus) on the station-wagon roof (236.5).

Finally, you add the number of percentage points that all polls but Rasmussen are skewed in favor of Democrats (10). Voila!

You now have the mortal-lock number of electoral college votes that the Democratic nominee will win in any given year.

– Jay Bookman

516 comments Add your comment

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
10:57 am

“100 new jobs coming to Atlanta…”

These are creative, liberal “Hollywood” type jobs. Conservatives need not apply.

Regnad Kcin

September 28th, 2012
10:58 am

For those that don’t believe in polls, this information from InTrade, where you can put your money where your mouth is.

To win $10.00:

Romney wins USA $2.16
Romney wins Ohio $1.90
Romney wins FLA $3.30
Romney wins VA $2.70
Obama >300 in EC $7.70

Any of you cons want to make some easy money? :)

Frederick Douglass

September 28th, 2012
10:58 am

My old drill instructor needs to tell Romney what he told me once: “Son you couldn’t pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the soles”…….worked for me.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 28th, 2012
10:58 am

D. DoRight — “Joe @ 10:36 – Good one!”

My wife says that everyone’s going to be her color eventually, so it was smart of me to get down with the brown early on. :D

Meetings call. Back later this afternoon.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 28th, 2012
11:07 am

Good morning folks – Romney may not be the guy and will probably not win. Obama will be re-elected mostly due to the moochers and parasites in society. Spin it anyway you like but it is the truth.I hope after Obama’s next 4 years, when the economy and jobs picture does not improve significantly, you libs are still here to defend and make more excuses why he did not get it done. After 8 years, I do not think you will be able to continue to say Bush’s fault, Bush’s fault. If I am wrong, I will admit it but I do not think that is likely. If you want to vet Romney all the way back to the time he was a baby fine, but do it for Obama as well. All this sealing of documents about their lives concerns me. This is an example of who has the best lawyers to handle their affairs! Do you know what two lawyers at the bottom of the ocean is? A good start!! Ha!

Oscar

September 28th, 2012
11:07 am

my wife says that everyone’s going to be her color eventually, so it was smart of me to get down with the brown early on.
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People in the US will eventually be the same color, and will have the same last name. May take a while.
Don’t know about world wide. That’s a lot of people to mix.

DebbieDoRight - Conservatives have always been great storytellers; it is their fatal weakness. They love casting their eyes back to the past to avoid seeing what lies right under their noses.

September 28th, 2012
11:07 am

I think it’s healthier to do things with fresh ingredients, but right now it’s just more expensive to do so.

For real! It took me YEARS to finally go totally organic. I first started with milk, then progressed to butter eggs and produce; then progressed from there.

I read an article in Essence magazine once, concerning hormones in food and the effect it has upon A.A. children (making them “mature” too early); and I saw it happening when I picked up my Little Sisters from the SWATS. Nine and ten year old little girls who were already a Double D was too much.

the cat

September 28th, 2012
11:07 am

Just made the mistake of wandering over to Jamie Dupree’s blog. The nutters have taken over!

East Lake Ira

September 28th, 2012
11:08 am

Tom – can you spare a dime?

Morality?

September 28th, 2012
11:08 am

Math doesn’t vote – citizens do.

USMC

September 28th, 2012
11:09 am

“These are creative, liberal “Hollywood” type jobs. Conservatives need not apply.”

No need to apply, we already HAVE jobs!

Plus they are looking for “Limp Wristed” Apple computer people, like you, to fill these jobs. :lol:

They BOTH suck

September 28th, 2012
11:09 am

“All this sealing of documents about their lives concerns me.”

Talk radio blather……… But do carry on

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

the cat

September 28th, 2012
11:10 am

I find it so sad the republicans are so desperate for the President to fail they are willing to go down with the proverbial ship. Looking at you Tom Vet. You are disgraceful.

godless heathen

September 28th, 2012
11:11 am

Jay, I think eye of a newt needs to go into the calculation somewhere.

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
11:11 am

Romney may not be the guy and will probably not win. Obama will be re-elected mostly due to the moochers and parasites in society.

Tom,

According to Mitt’s secret tape, the parasites and moochers only amount to 47% so that leaves your boy a healthy 3 percentage point margin to win by if he’s up to the task. Blame your side if you can’t win over all those income tax paying voters to your cause.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
11:12 am

OH NOES!

RASMUSSEN GOT SKREWED OVERNIGHT?

Was it legitimate? Or were they prancing around like sluts asking for it?

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

Vote Ron Paul cons.

Send your party a message.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 28th, 2012
11:07 am

Good morning folks – Romney may not be the guy and will probably not win. Obama will be re-elected mostly due to the moochers and parasites in society.
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There goes Tom again. Calling Combat soldiers and wounded veterans moochers and parasites. All retired people are moochers and parasites.

The right has no shame. They send kids off to war and then call them moochers and parasites……

Who wants to bet that Tom would stick a Jew in an oven? I mean Romney and his propaganda machine are saying the same thing Dr. Goebbels………..

Doggone/GA

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

“Math doesn’t vote – citizens do”

You can always tells when someone read only the headline before commenting…and didn’t bother to actually read the article.

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

DDR

I’ve never seen any scientific proof to back up that statement about hormones in foods, but I’m with you in that I’ve seen quite enough circumstantial evidence to make me think it’s not a coincidence.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

Tom – you moocher you!

USMC

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

“As this cycle winds down so will I . No more con bashing from me.”–Getalife

Me too, brother. I would rather be drinking beer, smoking cigars, and watching college football with you than arguing over politics. :-)

Geax Dawgs!

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:15 am

“Me too, brother. I would rather be drinking beer, smoking cigars, and watching college football with you than arguing over politics. :-)

I agree but Geaux Tigers :)

Li'l Aynie

September 28th, 2012
11:16 am

Jay’s “prediction” math is as complicated as the way our votes count toward electing a President.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:16 am

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am

DDR

I’ve never seen any scientific proof to back up that statement about hormones in foods, but I’m with you in that I’ve seen quite enough circumstantial evidence to make me think it’s not a coincidence.
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You mean like 4th grade girls with Double D’s?

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
11:17 am

“Plus they are looking for “Limp Wristed” Apple computer people, like you, to fill these jobs.”

Apple? You mean the company that is the envy of the world? The company leading the way in modern culture? The company worth about $650 billion? The most valuable company in the world?

Not bad for a bunch of “socialist” liberals.

TBone

September 28th, 2012
11:18 am

Math is hard so maybe it’s a bit beyond the mental capabilities of a “journalist”. We’ll see if five weeks how good your math is.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:18 am

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
11:17 am

“Plus they are looking for “Limp Wristed” Apple computer people, like you, to fill these jobs.”

Apple? You mean the company that is the envy of the world? The company leading the way in modern culture? The company worth about $650 billion? The most valuable company in the world?

Not bad for a bunch of “socialist” liberals.
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Shame they ship all their work to China.

Rightwing Troll

September 28th, 2012
11:20 am

“These are creative, liberal “Hollywood” type jobs. Conservatives need not apply.”

As one who works in the field I can say that the typical wingnut lacks the intellect and artistic ability to fill these positions. Working in this field you need to be flexible, able to solve problems on the fly, and maintain a timeline no matter what. That kind of flexibility and problem solving acumen just isn’t present in your average Joe the Plumber type, as witnessed by the incessant bleating and rote repeating ad nauseum of wingnut talky points here on Bookmans libural blog…

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
11:25 am

The State morally degrades all…………hence Bookman joking about his Vice-God’s husband.
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Betraying the trust of your spouse is not funny.
Progressives are just……………………………………………………………………………..wrong.

Rightwing Troll

September 28th, 2012
11:26 am

I was unaware that everyone who works at Apple was gay…

Rightwing Troll

September 28th, 2012
11:27 am

“Not bad for a bunch of “socialist” liberals.
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Shame they ship all their work to China.”

That makes them Romney Capitalists…

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:28 am

You mean like 4th grade girls with Double D’s?

Yeah. We see it with our own eyes, but I don’t recall any researcher ever going back to study whether the hormones in food are transferred to humans upon consumption. Somebody may have done the research, but I haven’t seen or heard of such.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:29 am

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
11:25 am

The State morally degrades all…………hence Bookman joking about his Vice-God’s husband.
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Can someone translate that for me? What is a Vice-God?

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:31 am

Can someone translate that for me? What is a Vice-God?

The opposite of Ron Paul. :)

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
11:32 am

“Shame they ship all their work to China.”

Apple employes 50,000 US workers in mostly high paying jobs. They also account for another 300,000 support jobs throughout the US They currently have 2,500 job openings in California alone. Their creative work is done in the US, production is done in China.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:33 am

I’m still lost Brocephus. The fright wing is always making leftist politicians into deities. But this one make no sense. Logically “Vice-God” would be Vice President, but Biden doesn’t have a husband……… does he?

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:34 am

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
11:32 am

“Shame they ship all their work to China.”

Apple employes 50,000 US workers in mostly high paying jobs. They also account for another 300,000 support jobs throughout the US They currently have 2,500 job openings in California alone. Their creative work is done in the US, production is done in China.
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They make more than a billion a month. They don’t pay dividends. They could and SHOULD manufacture over here.

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:36 am

“Mitt Romney Favorability Lower Than George W. Bush, Poll Finds ” Aol.

Ouch.

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:36 am

Fred

When dealing with him, he doesn’t always make sense. I find it best to just say, “GO Ron Paul!!!!” and leave it at that. Seems to work about the same as saying “Roll Tide” to an Alabama fan when you don’t have a friggin’ clue as to what he’s talking about.

godless heathen

September 28th, 2012
11:39 am

Their creative work is done in the US, production is done in China.

They need to out-source the creativity work to Japan, maybe they could make a phone as good as Android.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
11:39 am

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:29 am

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
11:25 am

The State morally degrades all…………hence Bookman joking about his Vice-God’s husband.
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Can someone translate that for me? What is a Vice-God?
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Sure dawg.
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Statism is the worship of the state.
Obama is only the temporary God/Ruler.
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Bookman and crowd still want Hillary.
Hence………as good citizens……..they respect the state and its heirarchy.
Presently…sigh…………Hillary can only be their vice-god.
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Forward Soviet.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:41 am

Here is a reporter getting what he deserves. LOL At least he laughs about it……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IBdxZoqMcDE#at=13

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:41 am

Thomas,

No Jay was for our President because Hillary voted for the Iraq occupation.

Paul

September 28th, 2012
11:42 am

Romney just might win Virginia.

Congress and Obama Administration agreed to Defense cuts. Romney’s there telling tens of thousands of people who expect the government to provide them jobs and pay them high wages that if he’s president, he’ll come through for them and guarantee them a government check.

I think that 47% number he gave to the Wall Street guys was way low.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 28th, 2012
11:44 am

Guess I woke up the sleepy knats. the cat,-I said your guy would win but stated my personal opinion on why. You guys like to dish it out but like most libs do not want it thrown back at you. Once again I am a Conservative( not a Dem or Repub) Independent. I know that is hard to understand if I do not agree with your views.Fred – I see you are back to being your nasty self, you know I do not mean military people( I have said that many times), you have a way of twisting things to suit your purpose. I will say this,I do not care how much money CEO’s make, if they are creating jobs and improving the economy! Those are the significant job creators of the world not the govt. I supported Pres John F Kennedy(D), remember, ” Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”. I guess you libs(D) do not live by that mantra any more? Sorry

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:46 am

Fred

I tried to warn you. :)

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Once again I am a Conservative( not a Dem or Repub) Independent.

Whassamatta, you afraid to associate yourself with the current GOP? Funny how many Republicans turned independent over the last decade. :lol:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 28th, 2012
11:47 am

Divided by the number of SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:48 am

Yo Tommy, consumers create jobs, not CEO’s. Get off the talk radio koolaid.

As long as you keep quoting your boy Romney and him calling combat soldiers and wounded vets moochers, I’m going to keep calling you on it. Words have SPECIFIC meanings, something you talk radio sock puppets don’t seem to understand, you can’t ignore the meanings.

mm

September 28th, 2012
11:48 am

“I do not care how much money CEO’s make”

But the cons sure are concerned about how much the average worker makes.

They BOTH suck

September 28th, 2012
11:49 am

Fred

If you want to get a good take what many of the Ron Paul groupies are thinking, go to Infowars.com.

Site is run by a dude name Alex Jones. He has more conspiracies than Alabama has National Championships (nod to Bro) however he changes them every time something doesn’t come true and moves on to another one.

Black helicopter crowd, US was behind 9/11, Jews are out to get the world folks…………….

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Thomas: tell Alex and Paul that I said hello and have a great weekend

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
11:49 am

Under Romney’s proposed health care plan, American families buying non-group health insurance would pay nearly double what they pay under Obamacare, according to a new study by Families USA entitled “ObamaCare versus RomneyCare versus RomneyCandidateCare.” That includes both comparative insurance premium payments as well as out-of-pocket expenses.

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:50 am

Looks like y’all got the cons figured out :)

Micheal Ray Richardson

September 28th, 2012
11:50 am

Today’s offshore odds: Obama -460; Romney +390.

southpaw

September 28th, 2012
11:51 am

Funny how many Republicans turned independent over the last decade
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Others have been independent for a lot longer. I, for example, decided against joining the College Republicans in the early 1980s, even though I was (and still am) conservative. Haven’t joined any political parties since then, either.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:52 am

Damn TBS. I actually went to that site lol. I feel like I need to wash my brain now……..

They BOTH suck

September 28th, 2012
11:52 am

Fred

If you go to Infowars, read some of the comments after one of the articles……….

Those dudes are surfing with the aliens…………… Regardless of political views, I do not think Bookman’s loons can come close to competing with the folks posting at that site

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
11:53 am

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:41 am

Thomas,

No Jay was for our President because Hillary voted for the Iraq occupation
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This may be true……then……but like I said earlier.
The State morally degrades everyone that deals with it..
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The lefty progs crave Hillery.

They BOTH suck

September 28th, 2012
11:56 am

Fred

Told you. It is jacked up. Alex Jones pushes Ron Paul all the time along with his conspiracies.

Thomas never seems to want to discuss Mr Jones………and you saw exactly why he takes a pass.

Billybob

September 28th, 2012
11:56 am

your next to last sentence was the admission without admitting…..libs and lib media and lib pollsters seem to forget nov 2010 in any polling statistics…..thanks for that easy one jay………..

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
11:57 am

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:48 am

Yo Tommy, consumers create jobs, not CEO’s. Get off the talk radio koolaid.

As long as you keep quoting your boy Romney and him calling combat soldiers and wounded vets moochers, I’m going to keep calling you on it. Words have SPECIFIC meanings, something you talk radio sock puppets don’t seem to understand, you can’t ignore the meanings.
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Romney isn’t my boy………………………………boy.
Romney/Obama …I leave to the dwindling population of frightened old white people, ignorant black folk, government workers and single mothers.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:58 am

The lefty progs crave Hillery.

Oh yeah, I want her bad……….

http://tinyurl.com/983suk3

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:59 am

Romney isn’t my boy………………………………boy.
Romney/Obama …I leave to the dwindling population of frightened old white people, ignorant black folk, government workers and single mothers.

LOl ‘Tommy” I was talking to Zoomy Tom, not you…………. boy.

getalife

September 28th, 2012
11:59 am

Thomas,

Hillary is retiring.

Ron Paul 12.

redneckbluedog

September 28th, 2012
12:01 pm

cute, but they actually have some decent programming. if you’re in the mood for strident, it’s hard to beat Cenk, f’rinstance (and to be honest, I can take him in rather limited doses)
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I agree. I like the political commentary on Current TV…Bill Press…Stephanie Miller…Cenk Uyger….

Elliot Spitzer is very, very smart….He gets boring at times, but he gets into some really good issues and has great interviews….Hard to believe he was such a dog…..Granholm is kind of topical….

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 28th, 2012
12:01 pm

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
11:59 am

Romney isn’t my boy………………………………boy.
Romney/Obama …I leave to the dwindling population of frightened old white people, ignorant black folk, government workers and single mothers.

LOl ‘Tommy” I was talking to Zoomy Tom, not you…………. boy.
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my bad and apoplogy.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
12:02 pm

Heck crazy “Tommy” (not to be confused with Zoomy “Tommy” even Obama wants Hillary……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzXT6-py–8&feature=related

TaxPayer

September 28th, 2012
12:04 pm

redneckbluedog

September 28th, 2012
12:04 pm

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
11:13 am
DDR

I’ve never seen any scientific proof to back up that statement about hormones in foods, but I’m with you in that I’ve seen quite enough circumstantial evidence to make me think it’s not a coincidence.
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It’s not the food…it’s the packaging…!!!! The BPA in ALL cans..!!!! Chili, soup, tomatoes…..I NO LONGER EAT FOOD FROM CANS…!!!!

Not that I ever had any problems….but some folks have….

redneckbluedog

September 28th, 2012
12:04 pm

Coke cans, beer, Pepsi…..Bottles for me….

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
12:05 pm

southpaw

Your case is your case. However, that doesn’t change things overall…

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans

<i.In 5,566 interviews with registered voters conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press during the first two months of 2008, 36% identify themselves as Democrats, and just 27% as Republicans.

The share of voters who call themselves Republicans has declined by six points since 2004, and represents, on an annualized basis, the lowest percentage of self-identified Republican voters in 16 years of polling by the Center.

Despite these trends, the proportion of voters who identify with the Democratic Party outright has not increased in recent years. Currently, 36% say they think of themselves as a Democrat, virtually unchanged from 2004 (35%) and 2000 (35%). Instead, as the proportion of self-identified Republicans has decreased, the percentage of independents has grown substantially, from 32% in 2004 to 37% today.

That’s the first one I came across when searching for percentages, but I’m willing to wager that the current percenage of self identified Republicans is even lower now.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
12:06 pm

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
12:09 pm

A year later….

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22946.html

Thirty-nine percent of respondents self-identified as independents, compared with 33 percent who considered themselves Democrats and 22 percent who identified as Republicans.

The study showed 33 percent of independents say their views are conservative, up from about 28 percent two years ago and 26 percent four years ago, a shift the study attributes at least in part to the spate of defections from the GOP in recent years.

zeke

September 28th, 2012
12:11 pm

GO ROMNEY! GO SENATE REPUBLICANS! REMOVE ALL DEMOCRATS! SAVE THIS GREAT CAPITALIST COUNTRY!

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
12:13 pm

Fred

That is hilarious!!!!!!!!

getalife

September 28th, 2012
12:15 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 28th, 2012
12:15 pm

I invite all of you guys back in 4 years to this blog, wonder how the conversation will go? If you are correct, I’ll eat crow, if I am correct I expect the same of you. Really, it does not effect me either way because of my age. Are you man enough to say you made a booboo if it goes bad for the country. Or will you just continue to fabricate excuses? This is for my special friends – Fred, Jamvet, Getalife,Brosephus,Granny, Aquagirl and sorry if I missed any others? I will share a special moment with you, back in 1968 when I was in Vietnam, we used to follow that old Merc code, “Kill them all and let God sortem out”. Better to fear us than respect us, I guess that does not go over well with the Occupy types.

DannyX

September 28th, 2012
12:18 pm

“Hillary is retiring.”

I’ll bet she comes out of retirement in about 3 years to run for president. Gallup in May had her favorable rating at 66%, she is currently the most popular politician in the country. The speech Bill gave at the convention wasn’t only meant to help Obama. If she does run she is probably the early favorite. And yes it is early, anything can happen.

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
12:21 pm

Tom

I’m not an Occupy type, a Tea Party type, a Lib, or a Con. I am simply an American. I hope to see you in 4 years, and hopefully you’ll be able to stop trying to hide behind labels and simply be an American too.

I wouldn’t have fallen for that fear, because I realized long ago that as long as I have my faith in God, there is no man on Earth that I need to fear. Whatever’s going to happen will happen no matter what I do. America has survived for over 200 years because of Americans. Until we quit trying to divide ourselves and become Americans again, we will continue on the path of self destruction.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
12:22 pm

I will share a special moment with you, back in 1968 when I was in Vietnam, we used to follow that old Merc code, “Kill them all and let God sortem out”. Better to fear us than respect us, I guess that does not go over well with the Occupy types.
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How odd. I never had a zoomy do anything but open the door for me as I jumped out……….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 28th, 2012
12:23 pm

…back in 1968 when I was in Vietnam…

Back in 480 BC when I was at Thermopylae with the 300 we followed the Spartan code and yelled, WE ARE SPARTA!

getalife

September 28th, 2012
12:23 pm

Tom,

Will you admit w was a disaster?

DannyX,

That is possible but I think we should offer he a big raise to stay as Secretary of State.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
12:24 pm

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
12:21 pm

Tom

I’m not an Occupy type, a Tea Party type, a Lib, or a Con. I am simply an American. I hope to see you in 4 years, and hopefully you’ll be able to stop trying to hide behind labels and simply be an American too.
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He would have to stop listening to talk radio and use his own mind to do that Bro. He has to hate all us “moochers” to feel good about himself. Talk radio just divides people.

Fred ™

September 28th, 2012
12:27 pm

Woodstock Mike

September 28th, 2012
12:30 pm

JamVet

September 28th, 2012
12:31 pm

Today’s offshore odds: Obama -460; Romney +390.

Wow!

If I was one of these c0cksure/lamebrain, Party First Republibots, I would bet the next six month’s rent money on Flip!

This is starting to look like Nebraska vs. Idaho State!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 28th, 2012
12:32 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tpAOwJvTOio

Stale drudgey spam that has been posted here so many times it’s beginning to be pathetic.

[...] Bookman reveals his formula for predicting the Presidential [...]

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 28th, 2012
12:33 pm

Kamchak – Good post, the Spartan 300 is a unit I really would have liked to be in. I guess there is just no way to make peace with you guys unless I learn from Obama. Apologize, apologize, apologize, it is not happening in this life!

JamVet

September 28th, 2012
12:34 pm

…back in 1968 when I was in Vietnam…

“My God! That’s all she (Ms. Duckworth) talks about!” ~Joe “Deadbeat dad” Walsh, R – Illinois

Woodstock Mike

September 28th, 2012
12:35 pm

“Stale drudgey spam that has been posted here so many times it’s beginning to be pathetic.”

It’s hilarious when you see someone react like this to what is happenning in real life. What planet are you on?

Woodstock Mike

September 28th, 2012
12:36 pm

““Stale drudgey spam that has been posted here so many times it’s beginning to be pathetic.”

What you should say is that the woman on the video is pathetic.

DebbieDoRight - Conservatives have always been great storytellers; it is their fatal weakness. They love casting their eyes back to the past to avoid seeing what lies right under their noses.

September 28th, 2012
12:37 pm

Check out this Whoopie vs Ann Coulter showdown on the View:

http://www.webpronews.com/ann-coulter-feels-the-wrath-of-whoopi-2012-09

Funny stuff! (Or am I just sickly twisted?)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 28th, 2012
12:38 pm

This is starting to look like Nebraska vs. Idaho State!

At this rate, it’s beginning to look like Ga. Tech vs. Cumberland College.

Rightwing Troll

September 28th, 2012
12:39 pm

“I invite all of you guys back in 4 years to this blog, wonder how the conversation will go?”

Considering the conversation today is very similar to the conversation here 4 years ago, and the fact that all of the wingnut prognostications and pontifications from then turned out dead wrong, I’d start looking into condiments that help make crow taste better…

Brosephus™

September 28th, 2012
12:39 pm

Fred

That’s why I don’t listen to that trash. It causes brain rot.

As to that dad, I’m willing to bet he’ll be the first one to tell you not to use the logic of shoot first and ask questions later. I feel bad for him, but his case just goes to show one of many reasons why it’s best to leave crime fighting to the professionals.

Mighty Righty

September 28th, 2012
12:40 pm

Brilliant, simply brilliant. I would add the number of dead democrats that vote in every election divided by the number of counterfit birth certificates, social security and draft cards the Obama campaign has been able to print plus the age of his newly discovered illegitimate son.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 28th, 2012
12:40 pm

Woodstock Mike – Excellent post but they love it. Obama phones for everyone! Yes I’m retired, that’s why I can constantly babble on my personal PC all day, I guess the rest of you are also retired also. I know you would not be on your work or govt PC?

Ahem

September 28th, 2012
12:41 pm

Ahem

September 28th, 2012
12:41 pm