Ten days that changed the landscape of a campaign

I don’t think you can call it a turning point, because Barack Obama has enjoyed a small but durable lead for most of this campaign. But historians will note that the basic character of the 2012 presidential race changed 10 days ago, when video was released of Mitt Romney expressing disdain bordering on contempt for some 47 percent of the American people, and doing so in a private meeting with fellow wealthy Americans.

As Romney saw it, that 47 percent had decided to become victims and were content to live off the work of others. They could not be redeemed, and they certainly couldn’t be reached by Republican themes of small government and personal responsibility.

You knew the thing had the potential to be big when the Romney campaign called a late-night, unplanned press conference to respond to it. But rather than minimize the damage, that press conference multiplied it. In his comments, Romney could not and did not repudiate the basic thrust of what he had told his donors, because to do so would be to repudiate the basic thrust of the Republican platform. Instead, he confessed that his remarks were “not elegantly stated,” as if a more elegant phrasing would have made it all seem better. His running mate, Paul Ryan, later called them “obviously inarticulate,” again suggesting that it was the phrasing, rather than the content, was at fault.

This, in other words, was not a case of a candidate accidentally saying something that he didn’t really mean, as in Romney’s “I don’t care about the poor” statement or Obama’s “You didn’t build that.” This was a case of Romney accidentally saying what he DID mean. And for millions of Americans who might have been on the fence about the race, or who had only vague notions of which way they might vote, that struck home. It cemented the already existing image of Romney as an arrogant corporate exec with little compassion for those struggling through the hardest times in some three generations.

That image had always been Romney’s Achilles’ heel. Newt Gingrich’s brief star turn in the primaries came when he attacked Romney at that weak point, referring to him as a “vulture capitalist” and Bain Capital as “rich people figuring out clever, legal ways to loot out a company.” As I noted back in February, Romney’s unfavorable numbers jumped 15 to 20 points in the two-week period in which Gingrich was allowed by fellow Republicans to press that point.

In the video, Romney tells the world that yes, that’s exactly who he is. That’s when the polls began to swing pretty dramatically. And Obama continues to work that theme, trying to drive the stake deeper.

“I don’t think we’re going to get very far if we’ve got leaders who write off half the nation as a bunch of victims who don’t take responsibility for their own lives,” he said yesterday in Ohio. “I’ve spent a lot of time in Ohio, and I haven’t seen a lot of victims. I see a lot of hardworking Ohioans. I see students trying to work their way through college. I see single moms, like my mom, putting in overtime to raise their kids right. I see senior citizens who have been saving their entire lives for retirements, veterans who served this country bravely, soldiers who defend our freedom today.”

Working-class Ohio is critical to Romney’s hopes — no Republican has ever become president without it — and it’s no coincidence that in the 10 days since the video’s release, the Ohio race has broken strongly in Obama’s favor, with the incumbent now holding a high-single-digit lead. The video and the backlash it inspired have also seemed to have an impact on Romney himself, making him defensive and draining him of the self-assurance that every campaigner feeds upon. His best remaining shot at turning this around comes Oct. 3, at the first presidential debate in Denver, where you can bet the issue of that 47 percent will be raised once again.

Romney has to find a convincing way to respond, and so far he shows no sign of doing so.

– Jay Bookman

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Robert Lee

September 27th, 2012
9:09 am

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 27th, 2012
9:13 am

“This, in other words, was not a case of a candidate accidentally saying something that he didn’t really mean, as in Romney’s “I don’t care about the poor” statement or Obama’s “You didn’t build that.” This was a case of Romney accidentally saying what he DID mean. And for millions of Americans who might have been on the fence about the race, or who had only vague notions of which way they might vote, that struck home. It cemented the already existing image of Romney as an arrogant corporate exec with little compassion for those struggling through the hardest times in some three generations.”

not to mention, it finally shined a light on all the numpties who continue to cling to the 47% myth and has gotten the TRUTH out …

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 27th, 2012
9:15 am

Ahhh the debates….. the ones that the conned keep telling us that Obama will lose because there will be no teleprompter, because there …..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 27th, 2012
9:17 am

Mitt’s problems are only compounded by the information that his father was once on welfare. His “deaf ear” and lack of empathy only hurt him more with all but the “self-victimized 1%”.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 27th, 2012
9:17 am

Ask those landscapers for their papers!

TaxPayer

September 27th, 2012
9:18 am

Mitt could always say something like, “I didn’t mean 47%. Actually it’s more like 99%. You bunch of moochers.” Go for the gusto, Mitt.

Also, I see that Sheldon Adelson has finally let us know why he supports Mitt. He’s looking for someone that will not dig so deep into his business dealings and he sees what he likes in Mitt.

godless heathen

September 27th, 2012
9:19 am

The economy continues to recover very slowly, unemployment still greater than 8%, total confusion by the Obama administration over what went down in Libya, and yet Obama continues to lead in the pols. The Obama campaign, with the assistance of their surrogate lap dogs in the press, have successfully turned the focus of the campaign away from the capabilities of the candidates.

That Romney is not running away with this election is demonstrated by a nation infatuated with Honey Boo Boo and American Idol.

independent thinker

September 27th, 2012
9:20 am

There is one more piece to the “real Mitt Romney” emerging in this campaign and his declining polls- his selection of Paul Ryan. No matter how he tries to hide his past, Ryan’s beliefs and practices show what this team is really about. Romney’s views are pure Ayne Rand- survival of the fittest. Yet Ryan has a history of voting for social programs with no funding if it will buy votes for the GOP. Same for Romney with Romneycare- just a political maneuver and not a philosophy of governing.And now they want you to believe they truly care about programs for the elderly?No wonder Ryan got booed by the AARP and in front of his mother no less. I do not think the debates will clear up this train wreck.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 27th, 2012
9:20 am

“surrogate lap dogs in the press”….

and yet, they can ride INSIDE the vehicle.

willie lynch

September 27th, 2012
9:21 am

Mitt Romney comes across as a person who lacks the capacity for any deep consideration on many levels. Aside from him being a Republican those who follow him really can’t believe that he is the better way for the nation. You may not like President Obama for different reasons but in fact we are better off than we were 4 years ago and if we had a Congress that would actually help govern we would probably be further along on the road to recovery.

The Romney/Ryan plan is the same plan that the European governments have tried to implement (with the full support of their legislative bodies) only to see increases in the problems brought on by the world wide downturn. Now they look to the programs and policies instituted by the Obama administration to pull themselves back.

Imagine what President Obama could have done with some help

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:23 am

JAY,

I doubt seriously that either comment will change who folks vote for…your conclusion in this and last post IMO represent premature postulation and too much wishful thinking on whatever you want to believe from the wide variety of polls..to suggest that Romney’s comment was any worse than BO’s from voter’s perspective….the only thing I know for sure about the polls is that there are too many with varying assumptions about turnout that polls can’t truly measure..

The turning point IMO will be debates…not some stupid of the cuff comment that we have come to expect from one failed president and a challenger who certainly doesn’t get my juices flowing..

Aquagirl

September 27th, 2012
9:24 am

The Obama campaign, with the assistance of their surrogate lap dogs in the press, have successfully turned the focus of the campaign

Jay really nailed it when he said y’all would go with the “blame the media” meme.

Cling to that blankie.

USMC

September 27th, 2012
9:24 am

“Ten days that changed the landscape of a campaign”–JAY BOOKMAN

Boy, Jay sure is leaning WAY out over his skis this morning… :-)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2008-11-17-van-ski-jumping_N.htm

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:25 am

GODLESS,

For pure entertainment value, I must admit I watched and episode of Honey Boo Boo and it is nothing short of hilarious and a valid departure from the blizzard of campaign crap that gets more bizzare by the minute…

Brosephus™

September 27th, 2012
9:25 am

Romney has to find a convincing way to respond, and so far he shows no sign of doing so.

It’s not just that he hasn’t shown any sign of doing so, it’s because he CAN’T show any signs. I hate to bring up another opinion piece this early in the thread, but there’s one by Fareed Zakaria that dovetails quite nicely with that thought.

As President Obama has surged in the polls, Republicans have been quick to identify the problem: Mitt Romney. Peggy Noonan eloquently voiced what many conservatives believe when she said that Romney’s campaign has been a “rolling calamity.” Others have been equally critical of his candidacy. And yet, shouldn’t it puzzle us that Romney is so “incompetent” (also from Noonan), given his deserved reputation for, well, competence? He founded one of this country’s most successful financial firms, turned around the flailing Salt Lake City Olympics and was a successful governor. How did he get so clumsy so fast?

In fact, the problem is not Romney but the new Republican Party. Given the direction in which it has moved and the pressures from its most extreme — yet most powerful — elements, any nominee would face the same challenge: Can you be a serious candidate for the general election while not outraging the Republican base?

Romney can’t respond as he would like to as that would piss off the Republican base. He’s stuck between a rock and a hard place. His original plan to not be specific is beginning to backfire.

Also, this one is too funny to pass up. If you thought the conservatives went bat shiite crazy over the Samuel L. Jackson interview in Ebony, just wait until his campaign ad hits the airwaves.

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/now/yahoo-exclusive-see-samuel-l-jackson-pro-obama-120110618.html

Atlanta 1

September 27th, 2012
9:26 am

This election will break the 7-10 days one way or the other.

History says the challenger will win.

But this President has also made history.

I still believe that win the dust settles – Romney wins by 5 to 7 % points and enough states to rule out any real controversy.

You cannot have this poor of an economic record and spend one year of your Presdiency putting into law a healthcare plan that the majority of the country still doesn’t want and keep your job.

The Press in this country is ‘in the tank’ for this President and that is a big reason that he is holding on. The Libyian nightmare would be ‘front page’ news every day if a Republican were in the office. (Not sour grapes – just a fact of life(.

USMC

September 27th, 2012
9:27 am

“Ten days that changed the landscape of a campaign”–JAY

I am taking up donations for Jay’s bottle of Crystal’s Hot Sauce….
http://compare.ebay.com/like/260971551464?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

vince neil

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

bman

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

“The turning point IMO will be debates”

I agree. However, Romney needs to be effective every single day before the first debate.

vince neil

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

Patrick

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

I think everyone should give Romney a break. After all, he is the best the GOP has to offer…

Wah-wah…

DannyX

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

“Boy, Jay sure is leaning WAY out over his skis this morning…”

Republicans are trying to get head buried in sand added to the next Olympics.

USinUK - hi dee hi dee hi dee ho (and former Girl Scout)

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

“Crystal’s Hot Sauce”

yummmmmmmmmmm

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
9:29 am

trying to drive the stake deeper.

I’m assuming in your metaphor that Romney is the vampire….

USMC

September 27th, 2012
9:30 am

“Ten days that changed the landscape of a campaign”–JAY

We are noting you Bluster this morning, Jay.
And Obama still thinks that American Diplomats were murdered over a movie trailer… Unbelievable. :-)

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
9:31 am

I doubt seriously that either comment will change who folks vote for

Turns out you’d be wrong. The “undecideds” are breaking toward Obama. That’s huge at this point in the campaign when early voting has already started in some swing states.

Jay

September 27th, 2012
9:31 am

Stevie Ray, it’s pretty clear that SOMETHING happened in the last 10 days. Now, maybe you subscribe to the theory that 10 days ago, the bat signal went out to all the pollsters instructing them to suddenly start skewing the race in Obama’s favor. That’s one version of reality. Another would be that Romney’s comments cast him in a deeply unfavorable light. If you have a third possible explanation, feel free to offer it.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 27th, 2012
9:31 am

Real men could care less about compassion.
Especially from the cess-pool of Washington.
.
And the voting percentage reflects this.
.
We are living the USSR circa 1993.
Voting was mandatory even though there was only one box to check.
Instead………………..the people crossed out the name.
.
Viva libertad.

willie lynch

September 27th, 2012
9:31 am

Atlanta 1

September 27th, 2012
9:26 am

“The Press in this country is ‘in the tank’ for this President and that is a big reason that he is holding on. The Libyian nightmare would be ‘front page’ news every day if a Republican were in the office. (Not sour grapes – just a fact of life(.”

Tell me if you would exactly where the President has gone wrong on the “Libya issue”?

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
9:32 am

I still believe that win the dust settles – Romney wins by 5 to 7 % points and enough states to rule out any real controversy.

There are bets already on the table. You putting your money up? We’re doing even-up win/lose bets, no points unless you’re feeling really lucky.

USMC

September 27th, 2012
9:33 am

“yummmmmmmmmmm”

Let’s hope it helps Jay mutter the same words while choking down CROW sopped in Crystal Hot Sauce! It sure as heck works on Fried Chicken! :lol:

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
9:33 am

Viva libertad.

At first I thought you misspelled “libtard” that so many of the crazy like to use. :lol:

Jeffrey

September 27th, 2012
9:33 am

Romney is so on the defensive. He has started saying his tax cuts won’t be that big. This etch a sketch is like the first one I had as a kid, a bunch of circles going round and round and not making any sense.
I did hear he has taken to giving speeches in front of a big sign showing the nations debt but it seems a little late now.

Welcome to the Occupation

September 27th, 2012
9:34 am

“Newt Gingrich’s brief star turn in the primaries came when he attacked Romney at that weak point, referring to him as a “vulture capitalist” and Bain Capital as “rich people figuring out clever, legal ways to loot out a company.”

It was probably the most interesting moment in this entire presidential campaign, as much for the surprise of its happening as for how quickly the poohbahs got it shut down pron-to. They wanted none of that, no sir, and they got it shut down really quick-like.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
9:34 am

:shock: I’ve been moderated!!

Jay

September 27th, 2012
9:34 am

“The Press in this country is ‘in the tank’ for this President and that is a big reason that he is holding on. The Libyian nightmare would be ‘front page’ news every day if a Republican were in the office. (Not sour grapes – just a fact of life(.”

Really now. So, in the wake of attacks right here on our soil that killed more than 3,000 of our fellow citizens, in your version of reality the U.S. press would have loudly, immediately and repeatedly blamed George W. Bush, right? They would have hung that around his neck like a 10-day-old dead albatross carcass, right?

So my question to you is: Did that happen?

kayaker 71

September 27th, 2012
9:35 am

So, now the plan is to harp on and on about how Romney has no connection with the “common man” and he is “not-likeable”, “stiff”, and “non-caring”. Bozo is the answer, say the liberals, when he can’t even get our unemployment figures under 8%….. and he’s had 43 straight months to accomplish that. Our growth is stalled at a paltry 1.7% and our GDP nearly equals our debt. Other than that “small business is doing fine”. I personally don’t give a tinkers damn about Romney’s persona. If he can turn this country around economically and get this country back to work the social issues can wait. Bozo hasn’t been able to do it.

USMC

September 27th, 2012
9:36 am

“Ten days that changed the landscape of a campaign”–JAY BOOKMAN

Boy, Jay sure is inflating the Hot Air Bubble…. Maybe it’s his Anti-depressants kicking in.
-Anyone have a pin?? :-)

Pizzaman

September 27th, 2012
9:36 am

Willard has always suffered from “foot in mouth”!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:36 am

WILLIE,

If Obama had any seasoned leadership skills, he would have kept good on his promise to get compromise between parties at the get-go instead of this childish “we won, you lost” crap…in early days in office saying nannybooboo to the other party after feigning an agenda of reaching out is simply more evidence this guy is a phoney..

Pizzaman

September 27th, 2012
9:37 am

USMC,

I assume you are a former Marine. How the hell can you support a VietNam draft dodger?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 27th, 2012
9:38 am

Real men could care less about compassion

Oooh… chest thumpin early in the morning with a Tarzan yell…. Too bad no brain was engaged to actually make it an intelligent or truthful post.

Welcome to the Occupation

September 27th, 2012
9:38 am

If Gingrich and Perry had continued that line of attacking Romney’s vulture capitalism much longer, it would have caused a very fascinating cleavage to come into view, not so much between the parties but within</i. them as the right-wing big capital Democrats like Douglas Schoen would have joined forces openly with Republican leaders to attack the GOP primary candidates just as they had attacked Occupy. After all, here were Republican primary candidates effectively echoing a message that had just been delivered by Occupy Wall St. NEITHER of these two parties of big capital is going to tolerate that for very long.

stands for decibels

September 27th, 2012
9:38 am

off topic, but not entirely, since it concerns percentages of voters–

downstairs, RB referred to “the few Christians left in the [Democratic] party”

For the record, Gallup shows 72% of Democrats identifying as either “Protestant/Other Christian” or “Catholic.”

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150611/democrats-liberal-less-white-2008.aspx

barking frog

September 27th, 2012
9:39 am

The Republicans are doing
well under this President.
Maybe they are more
concerned about the
Congress.

DannyX

September 27th, 2012
9:39 am

“In the tank”?

Agreed, Romney’s 47% remark was his Dukakis moment.

Peadawg

September 27th, 2012
9:39 am

As long as Romney keeps shooting himself in the foot, Obama’s going to win.

I’m ready for the debates.

TaxPayer

September 27th, 2012
9:40 am

It’s a shame we have to view secret recordings of Mitt in order to find out what he really thinks. I think a lot of voters that were leaning toward Mitt got that message loud and clear. As for the still devout Republicans in that 47%, I suppose they have magic mirrors that reflect something other than reality when they peer into it..

Robert Lee

September 27th, 2012
9:41 am

Gosh this is so much fun, watching the cons implode and start turning on each other. I bet ole Grover Norquist is squirming something awful right about now, and Reince Prebus (or however you spell that curse of a name) is wishing that someome else was in charge of the cons message cause it doesn;t seem to be going over too well at this point. I wonder when Ryan will start pulling a Palin?

Welcome to the Occupation

September 27th, 2012
9:41 am

The Libyian nightmare would be ‘front page’ news every day if a Republican were in the office

This is breathtaking in its idiocy. It’s either said by someone too young to even remember 9/11 and aftermath (the most likely case) or they are simply eaten up with Republican propaganda-resentment. Hilarious. Where to begin.

Ennis

September 27th, 2012
9:42 am

I have been a Romney supporter since 2006, I said that when he picked Ryan, it was the worse choice. Now the Republicans do not have a ticket that can effectively convey to the public (or will not) what needs to be done to get this country back on the “fast track to good times for all” I believe that the current POTUS is going to be a very bad deal for the next 4 years because of his not fearing a backlash or worrying about reelection. I also fear his “plan” for the middle class. But, as Jay said, that little film about the 47% put the nail in the coffin.. That cannot (in my opinion) be brushed aside.

cc

September 27th, 2012
9:42 am

Keep on dreaming, Bookman. The campaign hasn’t ‘changed’, and Obama is going down, despite the skewed polls so often cited. Can we expect a “Sorry, I was mistaken!” column from you when President Romney is elected?

Welcome to the Occupation

September 27th, 2012
9:42 am

Oops.

If Gingrich and Perry had continued that line of attacking Romney’s vulture capitalism much longer, it would have caused a very fascinating cleavage to come into view, not so much between the parties as within them as the right-wing big capital Democrats like Douglas Schoen would have joined forces openly with Republican leaders to attack the GOP primary candidates just as they had attacked Occupy. After all, here were Republican primary candidates effectively echoing a message that had just been delivered by Occupy Wall St. NEITHER of these two parties of big capital is going to tolerate that for very long.

Brosephus™

September 27th, 2012
9:43 am

Funny how conservative mantra claims that the government can’t create jobs, yet conservatives want to personally blame Obama because of unemployment. I haven’t heard a single person whining about unemployment say anything about the people who are feeding the downward cycle by furloughing or laying off even more people.

If you want or expect Obama to drop unemployment numbers, then you are begging for big government. The only employment that Obama has control over is government employment in the Executive Branch.

The way I see it, the employment whining group has basically two options.

#1 They can acknowledge that Obama doesn’t control private sector hiring, which is increasing right now, and that he only controls public sector hiring in the Executive Branch. That would mean they would have to look at their beloved private sector as to the reason why unemployment is still over 8% instead of blaming someone who has no control in that area.

#2 They can come out and acknowledge they want big government since they want Obama to drop unemployment. They can then call on congress to institute a $2-$3 Trillion stimulus that would create a WPA type work program to work on our infrastructure which would spur hiring and put money back into circulation in this economy.

Paul

September 27th, 2012
9:43 am

“This, in other words, was not a case of a candidate accidentally saying something that he didn’t really mean, as in Romney’s “I don’t care about the poor” statement or Obama’s “You didn’t build that.” This was a case of Romney accidentally saying what he DID mean.”

I’ll quibble a bit, here. I think both candidates said what they meant. What we had here was pulling one part of a comment out of context, where it takes on wholly different meaning.

So I went another site and again listened to Romney’s remarks to the donors. And here I will agree with the point being made. This was not about inelegance. It was not about poor wording. Romney, the man who broke down data into its contributing elements to find out the composition of the whole, largely wrote off ‘the 47%” as just not in the pocket of the other guy, but for him because they thought other Americans owed them and Obama would give them what they want.

That’s a great way to win friends and influence people when you’re talking to a group of very, very wealthy people who think they got were they are because they are so gifted, but it’s not a way to show the most basic respect for vast numbers of Americans.

b-troll

September 27th, 2012
9:44 am

straitroad

September 27th, 2012
9:44 am

Jay, you’re one to talk about a “version of reality”. We could go on and on with examples of Obama’s version of reality regarding the terror attack on our Ambassador. You have your own version of reality. Romney simply spoke the truth about the difficulty in reaching a percentage of the population that has been convinced by people such as yourself that living life as a parasite is somehow virtuous. Not one person who is dependent on the labor of others will vote for Romney anyhow. It’s only a story because guilt-ridden media types like you insist on it being so.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:44 am

JAY,

My point is that all this hand jive about who said what at this point won’t matter in the outcome…seems Carter was polled way ahead of Reagan into October but lost by a landslide due to the fact the polls cannot predice voter turnout….

I don’t know if any credibility can be hung on “media bias” and don’t care…point is that we have no idea about the key issue..voter turnout as statistically, it is not calculable….either they use 2008 voter turnout as assumption or they blend 2008 with 2004 and possibly 2000…only a few polls actually smooth turnout assumption in this fashion…IMO, any poll that assumes 2008 turnout is a bogus variable…

You as well as others are putting too much credence in the past 10 days or the 10 days prior based on polling, that truthfully can be biased depending also on the number of DEMS and GOP’ers acutally polled and how the question is framed…

Typically, both sides continue to buy into any explanation that makes their guy look better..suggest you all sit tight..

stands for decibels

September 27th, 2012
9:44 am

As to the topic at hand:

I’m trying hard to be rational and data-driven in my political outlook, and as such I find scant evidence to suggest such a thing as a “turning point”, as perceived by the collective conventional wisdom (your punditry and assorted political junkies who love them) really exists. I think it is very hard to turn around any massive constituency on one item or another.

That said, I have to admit that my immediate reaction, posted here, when the “47%” video came to light, was “He’s fcrewn.”

Now, it was uncharacteristic of me; I believed then and still do that Romney’s got a chance still to win, just not a very good one.

I will say this, though–if he does lose, I think that his clueless, and frankly beneath-him, parroting of AM radio talking points to an assembled group of plutocrats will be marked as The Thing That Kept Him From Winning.

b-troll

September 27th, 2012
9:46 am

Bookman = DNC mouthpiece

Just about.

Brosephus™

September 27th, 2012
9:46 am

he would have kept good on his promise to get compromise between parties at the get-go instead of this childish “we won, you lost” crap…

So, feeding the military industrial complex isn’t a compromise with GOP policies/principles?

Dropping the liberal idea of a public option and pushing a Heritage Foundation healthcare policy isn’t a compromise?

Stevie, I’m beginning to think you are like the Republican who thinks that compromise means that the Democrats come over to the Republican way of thinking. If that is the case, I really feel bad for you. I honestly hope that I’m wrong and you are just going way overboard on your attempt to appear centrist.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:46 am

Paul,

Suffice it to say, both really should not pop off extemporaneously until the debates…if I were BO and my comments about “building” whatever was prepared, speech rider should have added another to the 23 million already unemployed..

M

September 27th, 2012
9:47 am

But seriously, you guys…it’s the media’s fault for making Romney say those things to people when he didn’t know he was being recorded. They’re THAT good.

Mary Elizabeth

September 27th, 2012
9:47 am

“. . .arrogant corporate exec with little compassion for those struggling through the hardest time. . .”
==============================================================

I don’t think that Romney will be able to find a convincing way to respond because 10 days ago he spoke from his deepest core, and the people now know what he is in depth. His words in Ohio yesterday to try to rectify his earlier words “turned my stomach,” to be rather blunt, and I couldn’t continue listening to him go on with his blatant insincerity to “save” the presidency for himself.

There is a kind of poetic justice that the grandson of a Georgia peanut farmer was the reason for Romney’s “true” self emerging in the awareness of the American people (listen to his extended emphasis on the word “entitled” in the video). It is important to keep in mind that Romney represents
not just himself with his words, but those who would share that vision for the U. S. and for the world – a hierarchial vision in which some are seen as more substantial and worthy than others based on income, which, in their minds, translates to work ethic virtues – this is the opposite of an egalitarian vision. (Btw, my thoughts of egalitarianism spring directly from the U.S. Declaration of Independence, “We hold these truth to be self-evident that all. . .are created equal,” which is the foundation of our nation’s existence.

Jay

September 27th, 2012
9:47 am

It’s fascinating to watch straitroad deny my point yet emphatically prove my point in one single post.

bman

September 27th, 2012
9:48 am

“Romney is so on the defensive”

True.

Because of Romney’s blunders, the spotlight is on him. Had say….Newt Gingrich been the nominee, he would have Obama on the defensive. Romney still has a better chance than Newt ever could …..

Romney should have hired Gingrich as a full-time consultant. Like him or not, Gingrich can come up with some pretty good talking points .

Had we all not know about Newt and his past, he would’ve probably run away with the republican nomination

mm

September 27th, 2012
9:49 am

The cons are forming a new state. The great state of Denial.

Pizzaman

September 27th, 2012
9:49 am

Also, my Republican brethren, how about gettin’ your guy to supply some “specific” details of what his plan is. What taxes are he going to cut? what programs? what parts of the ACA?. He says he has a plans for everything from “creating jobs” to “cutting the deficit”, but wont supply details. What’s the deal?

Mister.Earl

September 27th, 2012
9:49 am

cc – think about this for a moment.

Just think. Do not go off and defend your stance. Just think.

“The Republican Party has imposed a new kind of political correctness on its leaders. They cannot speak certain words (taxes) or speculate about certain ideas (immigration amnesty) because these are forbidden. Romney has tried to run a campaign while not running afoul of his party’s strictures. As a result, he has twisted himself into a pretzel, speaking vacuously, avoiding specifics and refusing to provide any serious plans for the most important issues of the day. That’s a straitjacket that even Peggy Noonan’s eloquence cannot get him out of.”

- Fareed zakaria

USMC

September 27th, 2012
9:49 am

“Can we expect a “Sorry, I was mistaken!” column from you when President Romney is elected”

No way! But we can all pitch in and buy Jay a bottle of Crystal Hot Sauce or maybe send him down the street to Elmyr(my God, what they do with Burritos is amazing) and have them whip Jay up a CROW Burrito. :lol:

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 27th, 2012
9:49 am

I liked John Sunnunus rationalization. It wasn’t Romneys fault that he insulted half the population, it was Jimmy Cartersn nephews fault for getting it on tape. :)

Aquagirl

September 27th, 2012
9:50 am

Not one person who is dependent on the labor of others will vote for Romney anyhow.

Wow, you’re predicting Mississippi and other “taker” states will go blue? That’s some impressive insider info.

M

September 27th, 2012
9:50 am

Pizzaman,

He says in that video that the economy will improve without having to do anything, so long as he is elected.

He actually says that.

Welcome to the Occupation

September 27th, 2012
9:51 am

cc: “The campaign hasn’t ‘changed’, and Obama is going down..”

He’s GOIN DOWN, GOIN DOWN, GOIN DOWN! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! {chest thump]

godless heathen

September 27th, 2012
9:51 am

If 9/11 had happened when Obama was in office, Obama would tell us that the Muslims hijacked the airplanes because they didn’t like the in-flight movie.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 27th, 2012
9:52 am

R. Lee — “Reince Prebus (or however you spell that curse of a name)”

Once again, just for fun . . .

Reince Priebus – vowels = RNC PR BS

:D

Tony E

September 27th, 2012
9:52 am

That video was the best birthday present I could ever have hoped for; I kept thinking of the scene in A Face in the Crowd when Patricia Neal flips the switch to expose Lonesome Rhodes.

curious

September 27th, 2012
9:53 am

Pres. Bush always said the overthrow of Saddam would sow the seeds of Democracy in the Middle east. Well it’s happening, but it’s not going to be pretty. There will be growing pains, but no official government is hostile; they may disagree, but that’s part of democracy.

As far as the Embassies/Consulates, security is provided by the host nation. Our personnel are more of a token force.

Those dead diplomats are a tragedy, but so are our thousands of dead and tens of thousands of permanently maimed soldiers.

And Yes, intelligence is always great in hindsight. I would expect we could all identify “intelligence” failures from the founding of this country that have resulted in loss of life.

If we going to be engaged, these losses are to be expected. Minimize them, but either accept them or withdraw completely.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:53 am

BRO,

Both parties get a pile of dough from DoD contractors with no small number of DEMs in congress having material DoD contracting employment in their districts..seems that just because we have a massive defense spend, every president seems to need to use it at some point.

As far as public option and compromising with GOP, you may recall that the passed legislation got pretty much ZERO response…also, the insurers and large hospital systems tossed another pile of dough at DEMS…you really think we are ready to dismantle the whole insurance industry at this point?

As far as my leanings, what you think of my dogma is none of my business..that being said, I am consistent in my musings that i favor Dem concepts relative to human rights issues, am a pacifist, and do think our country is one that should have folks without access to primary and emergency care..I prefer (despite the negative impact on my own livelihood) the single payer system but until we get private money out…I don’t expect anything to change..fiscally, I fall in the middle leaning right..

mm

September 27th, 2012
9:54 am

I believe what is really driving the cons crazy is that it’s not just the thought of America being repulsed by their hero Romney. It’s the thought of America being repulsed by the cons’ core beliefs (a dream world that never existed and never will).

Joe Hussein Mama

September 27th, 2012
9:54 am

K71 — Thank you VERY much for your kind compliment on the previous thread. I got pulled away last evening and didn’t return to the blog (so I didn’t see it until this morning), but I wanted to thank you the very next time I saw you on.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 27th, 2012
9:55 am

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
9:56 am

BRO,

Also, if the DEMS when they controlled both sides, had compromised on any issue..perhaps something would have gotten done…same thing goes for the reverse…instead we get promises from both that they will bring back the spirited debate and compromise that is intended to happen…

Jay

September 27th, 2012
9:57 am

This announcement just came through my email:
———–
“The U.S. Small Business Administration has extended its disaster loan program to six more Georgia counties affected by drought.

The loans target farm-related and other entities not covered by aid from the Department of Agriculture. Based on conditions since late July, the newly eligible counties are Bartow, Chattooga, Floyd, Gordon, Polk and Walker. Last month, SBA declared 12 other counties eligible for aid.

The loans cover fixed costs such as payroll and scheduled debt payments. They are capped at $2 million with terms up to 30 years. Interest rates are 3 percent for non-profits and 4 percent for small businesses. The SBA determines the amounts and specific terms.”

———-

Obama voters all, right? So-called “victims” of a drought who believe they are “entitled” to live off the rest of us, right? They’ll never be convinced to take personal responsibility for their own lives.

straitroad

September 27th, 2012
9:58 am

Jay, I wasn’t sure if you had a point. I’ve read so many articles about the 47% video that they all begin to run together. It’s the same old deal with you guys. The economy is awful, the things Obama promised to fix are even worse than before he was elected, businesses are investing the bare minimum because of Obama, gas prices are twice what they were before Obama…I could continue but you won’t hear it. You and the others on this board will just drone on about how great Obama is and how Romney is obviously a bad guy.

East Lake Ira

September 27th, 2012
9:58 am

Red State of Georgia

September 27th, 2012
9:59 am

When this state looks at the 47% that Romeny spoke of and see that Georgia is one of the most dependent states of the federal government, one can rightfully say “Vote Republican” even if it means going bankrupt!! Gotta love Georgia Repubs always makes the wrong choice!!! Nathan Deal, their kind of Governor!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

September 27th, 2012
9:59 am

Jay — “So-called “victims” of a drought who believe they are “entitled” to live off the rest of us, right? They’ll never be convinced to take personal responsibility for their own lives.”

Or, in conservative parlance, ‘they should have planned better,’

How you can plan so well in advance that a multi-year drought won’t affect you or your crops, I have no idea.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 27th, 2012
10:00 am

MM,

So a dream world of “hope and change”, more enabling spending and skyrocketing deficits posing a not much talked about security issue, a the ME continuing to burn and taking advantage of our weak policies, no practical energy policy that will change anything regarding our record breaking energy costs…is a dream we should aspire to??

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
10:00 am

They’ll never be convinced to take personal responsibility for their own lives.

And they’ll never vote for “the other party”, whichever one is out of favor, since the one that’s in favor seems to be arbitrary or based on race politics.

godless heathen

September 27th, 2012
10:01 am

stands: Did you get aholt of some rational-meds? Once again I find my self agreeing with you. (@9:44)

Ennis

September 27th, 2012
10:01 am

Pizzaman @ 9:49 My point exactly. Why oh why will not the republican party give the public any specifics? All on this blog (in my opinion seem to be a little higher educated than the man on the street) and can see for themselves what is good or bad about the specifics. Give us the meat give us the meat give us the meat

Welcome to the Occupation

September 27th, 2012
10:02 am

Maybe the reason these people are coming on here strutting and crowing about an imminent Romney is that they know something we don’t?

Like how all these voter suppression schemes these thugs are engaging in are going to tip the election and help Romney win perhaps?

Has anyone in this forum even addressed this issue? Jay? If you have, I’ve missed it.

JOE COOL............

September 27th, 2012
10:02 am

“The Polls, The Media”…. oh my

mm

September 27th, 2012
10:03 am

Yeah right, the rightwing corporate owned media is in the tank for Obama.

You cons are always blaming everybody but yourselves.

bman

September 27th, 2012
10:03 am

“So-called “victims” of a drought who believe they are “entitled” to live off the rest of us, right? ”

I see your point. I also see the word “loans”, and not “grants”.

Joseph

September 27th, 2012
10:03 am

Wow Jay this election is all but over because of a hidden camera. LOL… Polls show most folks agree with Romney so tell me again how this changed the election? Rasmussen still has the race tied. That’s horrible for a sitting President. You should know that Jay. You’ll see especially after the debates when Romney will pull ahead just like Reagan in 79′. Sane informed voters realize Obama as been a complete failure on all fronts and certainly don’t have their values when it comes to social issues.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 27th, 2012
10:03 am

straitroad – “gas prices are twice what they were before Obama…”

Then you should be thrilled with an Obama victory. If he’s as bad as you say, the economy should immediately tank, which will result in the low fuel prices you love so much. Hey, it worked in 2008.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 27th, 2012
10:04 am

The economy is awful, the things Obama promised to fix are even worse than before he was elected, businesses are investing the bare minimum because of Obama, gas prices are twice what they were before Obama

Hmm.. your reality really sucks. Why would I want to subscribe to that??

In my reality, my business continues to grow; gas isn’t a factor in my life, because I took steps to reduce my usage to almost nothing (that whole “personal responsibility” thing, right?), but it’s still cheaper than the peak during Bush; businesses aren’t investing because Congress can’t seem to decide what the rules will be for taxing income in 2013; DADT is gone (how is that worse?), my wife can buy health care even with her pre-existing conditions (how is that worse?), 3 million people have been put back to work in the past 30 months.

Your reality sucks and I’d hate to be stuck in it.

Ronald Reagan Parkway

September 27th, 2012
10:04 am

Just say NO to the Charter School Amendment!!