Seeking the “true” Romney is like seeking Bigfoot
The core problem with Mitt Romney is, well, his core. As in he apparently doesn’t have one. This is a man who can say the following in an interview yesterday with NBC’s Ron Allen, when asked about his lack of empathy …
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“Don’t forget, I got everybody in my state insured. One hundred percent of the kids in our state had health insurance. I don’t think there’s anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record.”
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…. and then literally a few minutes later stand in front of a crowd and say this:
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“I will repeal Obamacare and replace it with real health care reform. You see, Obamacare is really Exhibit No. 1 of the president’s political philosophy, and that is that government knows better than people how to run your lives. It is a view that government should stand between you and your doctor. I don’t believe in a bigger and bigger government…I believe in freedom.”
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I think that’s remarkable. If creating such a system is evidence of empathy, what does it say about a person who seeks to dismantle such a system? How can a person go from one statement to another without an apparent hitch, and seemingly with equal sincerity? Which statement reflects the “true” Romney?
I do not know. I am baffled by the man. In fact, given such statements, the more pertinent question may be: Can a “true” Romney even be said to exist?
– Jay Bookman
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kayaker 71
September 27th, 2012
9:00 pm
Suck,8:50,
Yeah, guess you are probably right. But the thought of an “opinion writer” or anyone else being so brazen as to ignore so much is more than unsettling. Guess that’s the reason why people like Bookman exist….. to make people like me really pissed off. Sells lots of blog space. He has never really called himself a journalist. I used to feel the same way about Tucker when she was around. Every once in a blue moon she would come out with a jewel of a thread on something but the usual was pretty predictable. If the truth be known, there are a lot of people who post on this blog on a regular basis that have political leanings other than what they profess. When you separate all of the brewha from reality, you might be surprised at what you get.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:00 pm
Don’t think TGT could take it.
TGT
September 27th, 2012
9:01 pm
Don’t fear libs, I’m still here. Sorry that I don’t have time to hang on your every word. Too many irons in the fire.
Don’t believe everything you read/hear that fulfills your biased preconceived notions libs: http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=120472
And what of all that stuff that Barton brought out libs, care to take issue with any of his facts?
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:01 pm
Jay
September 27th, 2012
8:57 pm
Ok so he’s a worse drunk driver cause he had 15 drinks and I only had 12.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:03 pm
Scout
And that “hate” you mentioned. It seems to be for many of your fellow Fed employees that you call out on a regular basis
“Just calling them like I see it.”
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:04 pm
getalife
September 27th, 2012
8:55 pm
No but I don’t buy a lot of the rhetoric you toss out here every day either.
I fail but I try to honor principles not parties. And vilify traits not people.
Ahem
September 27th, 2012
9:05 pm
My goodness, Bookman, one would be left to think there is nothing in the “current events” section for you to write about. We are perched on an Obama recession and this is all you could find?
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:06 pm
kayaker 71
September 27th, 2012
9:00 pm
Think of it this way.
If he didn’t willfully ignore certain things where would you and I go to disagree with his viewpoint especially after a good day at work and so so tv premiere tonight?
Braves already in playoffs could care less about Washington vs Stanford!
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:07 pm
kayaker
I agree with much of what you just posted. Wouldn’t surprise me if a good many of our fellow bloggers even vote or believe what they post………
It is all for the excitement and to get others riled up.
independent thinker
September 27th, 2012
9:08 pm
The seeds of Romneycare lie in Reagan’s passage of the socialist unfunded mandate called EMTALA. The cons just do not get that this created Federal control of how hospitals are funded . Saint Ronnie bypassed the states leaving insurers to pick up the unfunded mandate. It was bankrupting Mass. and many other states . That’s why Romney made a business decision to create Romneycare and get greater funding of hospital care through mandatory insurance and greater federal funding of Medicaid.
So any of the morons who still believe that Obamacare should be left up to individual states should also be asking for repeal of EMTALA so freeloaders do not bankrupt the hospitals. I know this is a hard concept for the Obama haters and Reagan worshipers.
And tell me how individual states are going to bring national health care costs down from 18% of GDP to around 7 or 8% like western countries with true socialized medicine that is fully funded?
Ahem
September 27th, 2012
9:09 pm
I have been away from the computer all day, but let me start looking around on Drudge Reports; AJC; and other source spots and see if I can come up with anything on Oblunda to report.
No thanks from the Bookman trolls is expected or desired. I just think we need a look outside Bookman’s selective universe sometimes. I’ll be back shortly
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:09 pm
Ahem
September 27th, 2012
9:05 pm
Just throw out whatever you want to talk about with or without a source (seems to not be needed here) just make sure to place any and all blame for the issue with one political party or one specific politician and I will guarantee you will have your conversation.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:10 pm
“When you separate all of the brewha from reality, you might be surprised at what you get”
I would like to see that on this blog.
“No but I don’t buy a lot of the rhetoric you toss out here every day either.”
My opinions are for my country and President when our country was in trouble.
Who Cares?
September 27th, 2012
9:10 pm
“Seeking the “true” Romney is like seeking Bigfoot”. What a great title! Can’t the same be said about your fearless leader? We all know about the birth certificate thing. Let’s see his records from Occidental College. OK, then how about Columbia University, or maybe even Harvard Law School? What about his lying to the US citizens, our allies, and the world about his knowledge of the terrorists attacks in Libya earlier this month? I don’t know where to stop, so I’ll stop here. Yep, “Seeking the “true” Romney is like seeking Bigfoot”.
moonbat betty
September 27th, 2012
9:12 pm
getalife, quit thugging, man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqGXM23WUbs
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
9:12 pm
TGT is checking out the local house of ill repute for chasity.
Since you mention that, has anybody ever seen a house of well repute?
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:13 pm
birther alert @ 9:10
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:14 pm
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:10 pm
Can you look outside of yourself and see from the perspective of those you disagree with. Many would argue they throw out their opinions because they feel the country is in trouble.
Not the path I would personally choose, but I can’t hate on either of you saying anything if you all are worried for your country, and not your party.
Free speech is grand
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:14 pm
Who let the moonbat in?.
You went way back for that one joking about ice ice baby.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:14 pm
They BOTH suck @ 8:26
Dealing individually with Iran hundreds of miles away is one thing.
Dealing with all of the fanatical Arab States surrounding you is another.
That’s why the “right” supports Israel.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:15 pm
They BOTH suck:
“And that “hate” you mentioned. It seems to be for many of your fellow Fed employees that you call out on a regular basis.”
I have no idea what you are talking about. Please clarify.
double
September 27th, 2012
9:16 pm
I thought bigfoot got run over.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:16 pm
Scout
Never said they didn’t. The current POTUS does as well. The mere fact that you do not see it or agree, does not change anything.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:18 pm
Marty,
I blog at drudge links and several other blogs so I read the same crap like “who cares” over and over and over. The ole deflection of blame for their nominee straight to our President. A million times. They tossed out every insult in the book and sling poo.
I know where the right is coming from and it is bs.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:18 pm
getalife:
“Are you saying paying for SS and Medicare all your lives is dependency?”
I don’t know how many times we have to go over this.
1) If you are paying into that all of your life you are WORKING ! Therefore, you deserve that coverage when you qualify.
2) We’re talking about those who live in a culture of not working (even when they could) and then seem to think they have a “right” to government assistance (exceptions for children or others who have no control over their situation).
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:19 pm
Scout
Reagan and Bush Sr called Israel out several times for breaking agreements………. That didn’t mean they supported them any less
Did it?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:19 pm
Did someone mention drudgey?
Judge Sides With Travolta in Spa-Sex Defamation Lawsuit…
drudgey spam.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:20 pm
They BOTH suck:
The mere fact that you do not see or agree with the Prime Minister of Israel that the U.S. is not supporting them on the Iran issue does not change anything.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:22 pm
Man charged after 60 dead cats found in van…
drudgey spam.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:23 pm
Scout
You know all the lazy ones you have called out………….. just recently.
I’m sure there is waste, but I have no idea whether Scout “earned” his keep anymore than a bureaucrat at the VA or NSA or FBI.
If there is waster than I have no problem with it be done away with via department cuts, layoffs or firings………
I have never worked in government job or had a union represent me nor go I knock those that fit those categories.
moonbat betty
September 27th, 2012
9:23 pm
dang, kamchak ~whatever~
drudgey spam with chesse on top,!
you love it!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:23 pm
Recently saw this:
“In 1986 when Reagan was President, Libya killed Americans. He bombed their leader’s house. Libya was quiet for almost 25 years. Then someone apologized.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:24 pm
betty
Lactose intolerant.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
9:25 pm
The mere fact that you do not see or agree with the Prime Minister of Israel that the U.S. is not supporting them on the Iran issue does not change anything.
Well, there’s lots of people in the international community who are aware and probably think otherwise. When things like this are public knowledge, it’s kinda hard to push the non-support theme.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/09/report-obama-sells-buster-bunker-bombs-to-israel/1
President Obama secretly agreed to sell Israel 55 bunker-busting bombs, according to a Newsweek report.
Much has been made of Obama’s tense relationship with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The president pressured the Israelis to cease building settlements in the West Bank. And Obama has been accused by Republicans of being hostile to Israel’s security concerns.
With the sale of deep-penetrating bombs called GBU-28 Hard Target Penetrators, Obama is satisfying a weapons request Israel first made during the Bush administration.
Israel’s request for bunker-busters in 2005 was denied. At the time, the Defense Department had frozen most military sales to Israel because of concerns Israel was transferring advanced military technology to China.
Yet another example of that Socialist, Marxist, anti-Colonial Obama acting like a Conservative. If he gets a second term, he’s probably going to end up being a better Republican president than GW Bush ever was.
Ahem
September 27th, 2012
9:25 pm
I have fallen into the grip of some sort of “moderation”. Going to watch TV.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:25 pm
They BOTH suck:
Reagan and Bush are not President.
Obama is.
The Prime Minister of Israel has made his statement.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:25 pm
Scout
Israel can act now, right?
Case closed
paulo977
September 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
josef ……off topic …..Do your teachers have to administer the new SLO tests?
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
Scout
Sorry to break your heart, but the US does not owe any country to jump when they say jump
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:18 pm
That’s your opinion I disagree. I do agree the far wing of the republican party is exactly what you said and much of their campaign rhetoric is too.
I think we would disagree that the left has just as many nuts on its edges and they do the same thig only blaming a past administration while dodging all credit for anything negative out of Washington. And I would also say their campaign like the republicans has done the same.
Possibly give blogging at drudge for a while, Might be able to see the forest better without all the trees.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:26 pm
They BOTH suck:
Yes Israel can act now if they so choose and they will initiate a pre-emptive strike against their Arab neighbors (as they did in 1967) if they feel it necessary to save their nation and people.
God bless them for having the guts to do so.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:27 pm
“Sorry to break your heart, but the US does not owe any country to jump when they say jump”
Then you have never heard of mutual defense treaties.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:28 pm
Scout,
If you are so worried about ” those people”, they needs jobs.
Your party ran on jobs in 10.
Why didn’t they pass a single jobs bill?
Orange12
September 27th, 2012
9:28 pm
What’s your take on this?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/fox-news-poll-7-percent-say-all-americans-should-pay-income-taxes/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:28 pm
They BOTH suck:
“but I have no idea whether Scout “earned” his keep anymore than a bureaucrat at the VA or NSA or FBI.”
If I didn’t earn it then take it away. We’re talking about those who don’t/won’t work if you handed them a job.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:29 pm
“Libya was quiet for almost 25 years.”
Really?
They were not exporters of terrorism after Reagan bombed them?
Is that what you are stating and believe?
Granted they got off their high horse in terms of being brash, but they stopped exporting terror?
Does the St Department and DoD agree with you?
Of course they do not
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
9:29 pm
Libya was quiet for almost 25 years…… I think that was the movie on Pan Am after those 1986 bombing…
As usual, Senior Digits posts garbage claiming fact.
What WAR on women?
September 27th, 2012
9:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7_sqdkaAfo
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:30 pm
Marty,
Yeah, blog some drudge links and get back to me.
Have fun.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:31 pm
Scout sided with daffy.
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:32 pm
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:30 pm
Why?
I don’t go to blogs about beastiality either.
I try to stay away from trash. You end up stinking yourself
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:32 pm
To clarify, I had no issue with Reagan taking the action that he did against Libya. More than justified and warranted
But anyone thinking they went to sleep in regards to exporting terror must read WND as if it were the truth
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:33 pm
Orange,
Fox news is part of the romney campaign.The senate leader’s wife works there.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:35 pm
“Granted they got off their high horse in terms of being brash”
Thank you.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:36 pm
Scout
And what does the St Dept and DoD say about Libya’s actions worldwide in regards to terror after they were bombed?
The facts are out there. Do not be scared
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:36 pm
“The Democrat Party has come up with their new slogan for the upcoming 2012 Presidential election.”
“LEAN FORWARD ………. WE’RE NOT DONE”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:37 pm
They BOTH suck:
I said “thank you”.
Not Blind
September 27th, 2012
9:37 pm
But we know who Obama is. Know everything about him. How he did in school. Who the important mentors were. He is all about no secrets. Transparency in his administration was a campaign promise and he hasn’t broken one yet.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:39 pm
How he did in school.
Birthers.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:40 pm
Scout @ 9:28
Quit bouncing around in your efforts to pretend you do not know I am speaking about.
You have called out your fellow employees. I am not referring to those on assistance of some kind or another, who milk the system.
Orange12
September 27th, 2012
9:40 pm
Getalife,
What? They are “fair and balanced”.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:41 pm
Great Britain tried to reform daffy.
Not a good idea to work with dictators when you stand for freedom.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
9:41 pm
Hmmm… all this concern about Obama’s school records, etc. but mention Romney’s tax records and suddenly “no need to go there”
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:42 pm
Orange.
Fair and balanced for the romney campaign.
They don’t even try to hide it.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:43 pm
She said that is all “you people” will get.
JamVet
September 27th, 2012
9:45 pm
Can you feel it, cons? Of course, you can.
Your severely conservative clown’s campaign is going down the toilet faster that the Tidy Bowl bubbles.
National
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
Rasmussen Reports 9/27 46% 46% -0-
Bloomberg News 9/26 49% 43% 6%
Gallup 9/26 50% 44% 6%
Colorado
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
Gravis Marketing 9/26 50% 46% 4%
Public Policy Polling 9/23 51% 45% 6%
Purple Strategies 9/21 48% 45% 3%
Florida
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
Florida Times-Union/Insider Advantage 9/26 49% 46% 3%
CBS/NY Times/ Quinnipiac University 9/26 53% 44% 9%
Washington Post 9/25 51% 47% 4%
Nevada
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
American Research Group 9/26 51% 44% 7%
Public Opinion Strategies 9/25 46% 46% - 0 -
Public Policy Polling 9/25 52% 43% 9%
North Carolina
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
Civitas 9/24 49% 45% 4%
Real Clear Politics 9/24 46.6% 48.4% 1.8%
Purple Strategies 9/21 48% 46% 2%
Ohio
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
CBS/NY Times/Quinnipiac University 9/26 53% 43% 10%
Washington Post 9/25 52% 44% 8%
Gravis Marketing 9/25 45% 44% 1%
Virginia
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
Purple Strategies 9/21 46% 43% 3%
Fox News 9/18 50% 43% 7%
NY Times/CBS/Quinnipiac University 9/18 50% 46% 4%
Wisconsin
Source Date Obama Romney Lead
WeAskAmerica 9/24 53% 41% 12%
NBC/WSJ/Marist University 9/20 50% 45% 5%
Public Policy Polling 9/20 52% 45% 7%
Rasmussen Reports 9/20 49% 46% 3%
Read more on Newsmax.com: Newsmax: Election 2012 Presidential Polls
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:47 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:39 pm
It’s kinda relevant if one considers Bain relevant.
They both happened at around the same time as far as Law school.
Romney has made his business experience part of his campaign. But Obama has spoke to the value of ones life experiences in ones decision making. It could be argued that ones college years are a highly influential time.
However I think both are silly reason to or not to vote for a president.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:50 pm
Lucy Liu as Dr. Watson in 12 min.
Hubba hubba
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:50 pm
They BOTH suck:
“You have called out your fellow employees. I am not referring to those on assistance of some kind or another, who milk the system.”
If you are talking about my exchange with Brosephus this afternoon that was in jest between he and I because he had taken shots at my pension coverage.
Federal employees (including myself …….. repeat ……… including myself) and military retirees deserve the pensions we get because we worked for them. It was part of our package when we first hired on. I don’t believe in government unions, or demonstrating or striking about my pay and benefits so if the Congress of the United States wishes to change something, and the President signs it and the Courts uphold it then ……………. so be it.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
9:50 pm
“Mr. Romney’s advisers have privately urged him to “rescind and replace President Obama’s executive order” and permit secret “enhanced interrogation techniques against high-value detainees that are safe, legal and effective in generating intelligence to save American lives,” according to an internal Romney campaign memorandum.”
This is what happens when you allow the neocons to slither back. Bring back torture. Good grief.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:52 pm
It’s kinda relevant if one considers Bain relevant.
Birthers are irrelevant, period.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
Well, well, well ……… what have we here ?
Headline (ABC): “Even before Defense Secretary Leon Panetta contradicted the initial story about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, today, Obama administration officials told ABC News they were concerned after the White House began pushing the line that the attack was spontaneous and not the work of terrorists.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/some-administration-officials-were-concerned-about-initial-white-house-push-blaming-benghazi-attack-on-mob-video/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:53 pm
getalife:
“This is what happens when you allow the neocons to slither back. Bring back torture. Good grief.”
Versus assassination by “Obama Drone” ?
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:56 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:50 pm
Do you think a good solution for the pension problem would be to immediately end all pensions as a part of the contract with all new hires instead offer higher pay and allow current employees to have the option for the added current pay (or amid contribution system like a 401k) with reduced monthy pension benefits?
I think this would help ease some of the future budget problems that cause some of the issues with forecasts credit ratings. I may be incorrect but I feel the added pay now would be able to be spent or invested as the employees see fit and also allow the state of feds to save money as it seems to me money now would be cheaper than money later with inflation and all.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
9:56 pm
Oh, Operator !!
“This video of an Obama supporter bragging about having an “Obama phone” has gone viral on the web, but where do these “free cell phones” come from?
The program is called Lifeline, established in 1984 was originally created to subsidize landline phone service for low income Americans, funded by government-collected telecommunication fees, paid by consumers.
In 2008, the program was expanded to support cell phones which quickly escalated the cost of the program. In 2008 the program cost $772 million, but by 2011 it cost $1.6 billion.
A 2011 audit found that 269,000 wireless Lifeline subscribers were receiving free phones and monthly service from two or more carriers. Several websites have been created to promote “free” government cell phones, including the”The Obama Cell Phone” website at Obamaphone.net.
Rep. Tim Griffin R-Ark. has proposed a bill to eliminate federal subsidies for free cell phones and has produced a great YouTube video highlighting the runaway cost of the program. The program has also been highlighted for reform by Senator Claire McCaskill D-Mo.
Pressure to reform the program led the FCC to announce an effort in February to “reduce the potential for fraud while cutting red tape for consumers and providers” by the end of 2013.”
Josef
September 27th, 2012
9:58 pm
Paulo
Yes, I’m not involved, though…
******
G’night all….
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
9:59 pm
Scout
Was referring that that exchange as well as information you posted yesterday………
Again, I ahve stated numerous times that I think your earned what you are getting. I also think others earned theirs as well.
Do I know that laziness and fraud exists? yes, but it exists in civilian world just much……….. maybe worse
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
9:59 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
9:52 pm
Their ideas or theories may be irrelevant but they as people are not.
RB from Gwinnett
September 27th, 2012
10:00 pm
Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney.
You notice it’s always about why we shouldn’t vote for Romney and never about why we should vote for Obama? Could it be that would only fill a single post on a single day?
Here’s some good polling data for you since you’re all into polls. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/fox-news-poll-7-percent-say-all-americans-should-pay-income-taxes/
I don’t think most of the 47% realize they don’t pay any federal income taxes. As they whine about Romney’s 14.1%, they have no idea they’re the 0%.
Whine on 0%ers!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
10:01 pm
They BOTH suck @ 9:59
On those points we can “generally” agree.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
10:02 pm
RB:
And you don’t see posts of Obama’s accomplishments either. There aren’t any of any substance or any good for this Republic.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
10:03 pm
What’s your take on this?
Well, based on their questioning, it doesn’t amount to much.
23. Do you believe all Americans should be required to pay some amount of federal income taxes, even if it is as little as one percent of their income?
Registered Voters Yes 79%: No 19%: Don’t Know 1%
Likely Voters Yes 79%: No 19%: Don’t Know 1%
I wonder how much that would change if the person answering the question were very well knowledgable in the fact that a person’s tax burden goes far beyond federal income taxes.
If the chattering class were not purposefully trying to muddle the argument by focusing only on federal income taxes, then I doubt that the poll results would be the same. Our government is funded by numerous taxes and not just fed income taxes, so to focus on one revenue stream is nothing more than a concerted effort to hide the truth.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/09/total-tax-bill-income.jpg
All income levels pay a sizeable amount in taxes to fund the government. The whole idea of some people not paying their way is a complete and utter lie.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
10:05 pm
“Mitt Romney plans to turn himself into a one-man truth squad during the first presidential debate next week, casting President Barack Obama as someone who can’t be trusted to stick to the facts or keep his promises.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81741.html#ixzz27j4Wo3AU”
You are a liar.
You are a liar and a flip flopper.
Jay
September 27th, 2012
10:07 pm
““Mitt Romney plans to turn himself into a one-man truth squad during the first presidential debate next week, casting President Barack Obama as someone who can’t be trusted to stick to the facts or keep his promises.
THAT would be interesting.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
10:08 pm
I don’t think most of the 47% realize they don’t pay any federal income taxes. As they whine about Romney’s 14.1%, they have no idea they’re the 0%.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/09/total-tax-bill-income.jpg
Well, when you’re still paying at least 20% of your income in some form of taxes, how would one even know that one particular tax burden is 0%? Isn’t that the same as McCain not knowing how many homes he had? Is that any different than Romney not knowing about all the different hidden accounts he has?
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
10:08 pm
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
10:03 pm
But people focus on that tax burden number think Romney’s 14%
Nobody ever adds the amount of other taxes he pays. The same way they don’t add other peoples on.
I would imagine both contribute substantially more than the indicated %
Especially to state and local governments.
Just saying Romney seems like he has nice toys and the wife doesn’t seem to shop at Old Navy
getalife
September 27th, 2012
10:08 pm
“Versus assassination by “Obama Drone” ?”
Don’t join aq and plan to harm Americans.
Versus losing US troops.
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
10:11 pm
Jay
September 27th, 2012
10:07 pm
See in this case it’s the guy with 15 drinks telling the guy with 12 to give him the keys.
Mr 15 says your too drunk to drive home Mr 12 let me be the one to steer this ship.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
10:11 pm
Bro
Hunstman would be all over Obama right now, but they put up Thurston……………..
Give me a break
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
10:12 pm
Headline: ” ‘Pi*s Christ’ returns to New York along with ‘Pi*s Moses’ ”
Thankgoodness Christians and Jews worldwide are behaving themselves.
Marty Huggins'
September 27th, 2012
10:13 pm
getalife
September 27th, 2012
10:08 pm
In the interest of fact. I don’t think all are in AQ.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mobileweb/2012/09/24/us-drones-terrorising-civilians-in-pakistan_n_1909167.html?1348549594&utm_hp_ref=uk
Orange12
September 27th, 2012
10:13 pm
“Hmmm… all this concern about Obama’s school records, etc. but mention Romney’s tax records and suddenly “no need to go there”
No, If he wants to show them. I don’t think there is some law saying he has to show them to you nor do I think it to be any of your business after all, how would you like to have to show your tax records to anybody that wants to see them. I’m sure if they were not above board Obama would have had his lackey in DOJ tooting his little horn about them.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
10:14 pm
There is one problem with the Obama Phone: It doesn’t exist.
Since 2009, there has been an urban myth that Obama created a program to provide free phones to low-income Americans at taxpayer expense. There is, in fact, a government program that will provide low-income people with a free or low cost cell phone. It was started in 2008 under George W. Bush.
The idea of providing low-income individuals with subsidized phone service was originated in the Reagan administration following the break-up of AT&T in 1984. (It was expanded and formalized by the Telecommunications Act of 1996.) The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through an independent non-profit, not through tax revenue.
More Senior Digits garbage proven false…..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
10:14 pm
getalife:
I don’t disagree with “Obama Drone” assassination …….. the more the merrier.
Just don’t be hypocritical about a little “enhanced interrogation”.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
10:14 pm
But people focus on that tax burden number think Romney’s 14%
Nobody ever adds the amount of other taxes he pays. The same way they don’t add other peoples on.
Romney has not released his state return yet. Here’s a link to where I pulled that graph from.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/
Read that article and you’ll understand why Romney’s percentage won’t change much when you add the other taxes in as compared with someone in lower income brackets. The lower the income bracket you fall in, the lower your fed tax liability is, and that is by design. The reason it falls that way is because the lower your income level, the more you’re affected by other taxes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/09/state-local-federal-taxes-income.jpg
Why would you tax the sh*t out of somebody on the fed level when they’re already getting reamed on the state and local level? Conversely, when somebody’s skating by on the state and local level (remember Kerry and his boat parking issue), the progressive structure of the fed income tax ensures that they are not putting the burden on the lower classes. Or at least that’s how it is supposed to work. With all the carve outs and loopholes inserted into our tax code, the upper income people have skewered the system to keep from having to pay.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
10:16 pm
Marty
Romney seems to be a great family man and of course a great business man. I’m fairly confident, even though I may not agree with all the laws and regs, that Romney has been compliant with all his finances regarding taxes.
With that said, I hope he is heading back to private practice after election day. I will take my chances with what I call a mediocre Obama.
His business success should be commended, but I don’t see many clamoring for Buffet, Gates or Trump to be the POTUS.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
Hunstman would be all over Obama right now, but they put up Thurston……………..
Depending on how well behaved the nutcase section were, I would have entertained the idea of putting a Huntsman sign in my front yard. I think he was doomed when it was realized that the crazies wouldn’t be able to control him.
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Just saying Romney seems like he has nice toys and the wife doesn’t seem to shop at Old Navy
I seem to recall a ruckus about Romney’s boat sailing a Cayman Island’s flag as opposed to a US flag. Wouldn’t that help him avoid those state/local taxes a bit?
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
“The reason it falls that way is because the lower your income level, the more you’re affected by other taxes.”
ding, ding, ding, ding
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
10:17 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight !
OH DEAR ! So why is that poor woman going to vote for Obama now ???
‘Obama Gave Me a Phone’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfFQk596JHk
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
10:18 pm
Bro
I am surely making assumptions about Huntsman and of course that includes him having been able to run the right wing gauntlet