Newly revised economic data encourages, discourages
Two significantly revised economic statistics are out, which the two presidential campaigns will no doubt attempt to spin to their candidates’ advantage. But the net political effect is likely to be minimal.
First, the bad news. Economic growth in the second quarter, originally estimated at an anemic 1.7 percent of GDP, was actually an even more anemic 1.3 percent, the Commerce Department announced. As Reuters notes, that downward revision reflects a better understanding of the impact of “the worst drought in half a century, which gripped large parts of the country in the summer (and) saw farm inventories dropping $5.3 billion in the second quarter.”
(In that same announcement, the WSJ’s MarketWatch notes, “the government said corporate profits climbed $21.8 billion in the second quarter, compared to a prior estimate of a $10.4 million increase.”)
The better news comes out of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which released its regularly scheduled revision of job creation numbers. According to the BLS, the economy created 453,000 more private-sector jobs than reported in the April 2011-March 2012 period. It also lost 67,000 more government jobs that reported, producing a net unreported job growth of 386,000 over previous estimates.
That’s an average of an unreported 30,000 jobs a month over that 12-month period. In political terms, the Obama campaign can now claim that more Americans are working today than when the president took office.
But again, this is hardly earth-shaking news, and combined with the GDP revision, it suggests that this long, hard slog to a better economy is likely to continue a while.
– Jay Bookman
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September 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
Rightwing Troll:
“being too frail to make it through basic training”
That statement there makes you a joke.
Mick
September 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
0311
Do you not see the hypocrisy of your words???
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September 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
Debbie Do:
I spent three years working tax fraud cases with IRS-Criminal Investigation Division.
Trust me …………. there are many, many, many ways to legally “hide”, “divest”, “invest” your money in foreign countries.
All courtesy of the United States Congress.
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September 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
Mick:
I don’t see “you” !
H.E. Pennypacker
September 27th, 2012
1:26 pm
Is it not a matter of time before we get accusations that Mr. Obama and his team cooked the books and increased the numbers to help him get elected? Apparently, he is manipulating the polling data and Fox News is getting into the game, (ignoring the fact that their own polls reflect the same big move).
The conspiracies run deep with this crowd.
mm
September 27th, 2012
1:26 pm
When will the media tell the truth?
Corporations are not hiring because they want to make Obama look bad. This was a calculated plan hatched by the GOP and implemented by the chanber of commerce.
bob
September 27th, 2012
1:26 pm
Rightwing Troll , September 27th, 2012, 12:50 pm
“Please refer to my post showing the top ten states for receiving welfare for confirmation that you’d win that bet… Also, curiously…, those same states are among the most obese…
There it is folks, Money Boo Boo’s chief constituency… on welfare and fat…”
Have you ever considered the fact that even thought GA is a red state we still have democrat voters ? Is it hard for you to understand that many of the people you refer to as Romney supporters are actually John Lewis or Hank Johnson supporters ? Yes, GA may be 55 – 45 repub to dem so you think the 45% should be considered Romney supporters ? That will never be mistaken for rational thought.
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September 27th, 2012
1:26 pm
Rightwing Troll:
Maybe I need to clarify a phrase:
“Takers” vs. “Earners/Makers”
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September 27th, 2012
1:27 pm
bob:
Thank you.
Mick
September 27th, 2012
1:27 pm
0311
I’m different, I don’t fear the truth and I don’t try to stretch lies…
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
1:29 pm
No Mick, obviously not… he’s the arbiter of who’s entitled to be a moocher and who isn’t… curiously even though the top ten states accepting welfare is stacked in the solidly red corner, it’s only libs who qualify to be looked down upon and classified as “takers”… not to mention his own “mooching”…
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
1:30 pm
I still pay a lot of federal taxes
I pay a lot of federal taxes too, income taxes included in that group.
Hey, I’ve got a better idea …………… give up that federal pension you Moocher !
Seems that you forget about that thing called FERS. Reagan did away with the “fat pension” that fed workers get. My pension is absolutely nothing compared to yours, if you retired CSRS as I think you did. My retirement is based on how well I invest my TSP funds.
You also forget that fed workers have to contribute even more towards that part of our retirement that is defined pension thanks to the debt ceiling negotiation. Not only do I get less of a defined pension than you, I also pay more towards getting less.
You fail yet again. As I stated earlier, you should just learn to embrace your moochiness instead of trying to deflect on others.
I’d also put your 36 years of federal service against my 7 years to date, but that would make you appear to be even more of a leech, so I won’t point that out.
godless heathen
September 27th, 2012
1:31 pm
First we have this: The conspiracies run deep with this crowd.
Followed in the very next post with this gem: Corporations are not hiring because they want to make Obama look bad. This was a calculated plan hatched by the GOP and implemented by the chanber of commerce.
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
1:31 pm
“That will never be mistaken for rational thought.”
When dealing with entrenched wingnuts, rational thought is usually not germane to the conversation as they live in an augmented reality.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
1:33 pm
“The only thing to be found at the Commerce Dept. website is a headache.”
I know. Reading about derivative swaps, quantitative easing, mortgage swaps and high volume trading makes my head pound.
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September 27th, 2012
1:33 pm
Brosephus:
Give up that pension brother ………….. you’re being a hypocrite.
Get a job in the private sector !!
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
Gotta get out and about…
Y’all have fun..
Mick
September 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
brosephus
It’s just another case of I got mine and I don’t give a damn about yours, even though a federal worker is a federal worker or rather a socialist that is thought of as a capitalist…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
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September 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
Sorry Mr. Digits to point out your most sinful lie….
but unless you own your own fire department and navy -
then you sir are a moocher.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
Senior Digits will surely object to the support of Addelson for Mitt because he expects Mitt to give him a “get out of jail free” card and save him millions. Oh wait, that would be a credible.
“My kingdom for a cell phone” — Oh the pout.
“My kingdom for stopping criminal investigations” – crickets
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
For you libs. out there that can’t tell the difference between an “earned” pension (military, federal, state, local, union, corporate, whatever) and an “entitlement” that his handed out for nothing …………… that’s why you’re part of the problem.
bob
September 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
MM, so at least you admit that repubs are responsible for employing more people than dems. That is the suckie part for the left, they are so smart yet stupid employing repubs keep getting in your way. Maybe if more on the left used the roads and bridges to create more jobs then the repubs would hold no sway, per your post they seem to have enough sway to have an effective boycott of the president. Obama says he has not raised taxes yet Obamacare has, he is a liar. Also, an estimate has been released showing man hours related to Obamacare could be in the millions, another tax increase, I would boycott Obo’s vision myself if I were the chamber.
Aquagirl
September 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
Reading about derivative swaps, quantitative easing, mortgage swaps and high volume trading makes my head pound.
The upside: it sure beats reading some of the posts here explaining how their mooching isn’t really mooching.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
scout gets government welfare every month.
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September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
Granny:
Thanks for calling Obama a moocher ……….. as he will soon be getting a “liffetime pension” for only four years of work.
What a deal.
Mick
September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
0311
Since I pay into social security and medicare, then you agree that it is NOT an entitlement?
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September 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
getalife:
Call it whatever you want but it’s “earned” vs. “unearned”.
Keep paying those taxes !!!
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
“that’s why you’re part of the problem.”
No, you and your ilk defining any who accept a gubbimint check (but yourselves, of course) as a “moocher” is the problem.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
“The upside: it sure beats reading some of the posts here explaining how their mooching isn’t really mooching.”
Like old, retired, government workers like scout is not a moocher.
It is laughable.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
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September 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
For you libs. out there that can’t tell the difference between an “earned” pension (military, federal, state, local, union, corporate, whatever) and an “entitlement” that his handed out for nothing …………… that’s why you’re part of the problem.
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.
.
Again with the sinful lies…..
We liberals know the difference you big silly…..It’s Romney
who thinks differently.
Take a look at the math to get to 47%…
Don't Tread
September 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
“the government said corporate profits climbed $21.8 billion in the second quarter, compared to a prior estimate of a $10.4 million”
Uh oh…there’s that bad word again…”profits”. That means somebody’s not paying their “fair share”. Where’s OWS when you need them? There needs to be a protest or something.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
Give up that pension brother ………….. you’re being a hypocrite.
Get a job in the private sector !!
I started off in the private sector at the age of 16, and I was 35 when I first started working public sector. I’ll do my service to country and return back to the private sector before I retire. I had a 401k in the private sector that I rolled into my TSP. When I leave the government, I’ll likely roll the TSP back to a 401k.
As I stated earlier, if you were CSRS and didn’t convert, that is all foreign gobbledygook to you as you had nothing but a defined pension. I’m guessing you were CSRS as you keep telling me to give up my pension, when my pension has almost no bearing on my retirement. To be blunt, I don’t count on my pension or social security to be there when I retire. My retirement is based on how well I can play the market to fend for myself. I choose to do it in the public sector for now because I can protect my country and protect my retirement funds at the same time.
If you’re wondering how I protect my retirement funds, that’s due to the fact that the TSP has a much lower administrative cost over the course of my working career as opposed to a normal 401k. As many others do, I am simply using the tools given to me by the government to do what’s best for me and my family. If you don’t like it, tough noogies. Take it up with your congressional representation. They legislated this into being, not me.
Mick
September 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
Sorry, but your guy romney lumped them all together in the 47%…now its damage control all the way but I guess you still admire his wealthiness…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
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September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
Granny:
Thanks for calling Obama a moocher ……….. as he will soon be getting a “liffetime pension” for only four years of work.
What a deal.
.
.
.
and even more sinful lies you moocher!
If i were you I’d be looking out for bolts of lightning.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
A job is a job and a moocher is a moocher.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
DRUDGEY !
“GDP revised down to 1.25%…
Durable orders drop 13.2% — ‘worst since recession’…
SANTELLI: ‘Depressingly weak’… “
bob
September 27th, 2012
1:42 pm
Rightwingtroll, don’t run away with a snide comment. Do you really think that just because a state is red that the democrat supporters are no longer democrat supporters ? The people that vote dem still vote dem and we still have dems repping GA, mine is Lewis. In your rational, John lewis is red and votes with the right. Go ahead and think that the people receiving welfare and are overweight are repubs.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
Dow Jones
13,521.76 +108.25 (0.81%)
S&P 500
1,449.47 +16.15 (1.13%)
Nasdaq
3,138.66 +44.96 (1.45%)
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
For FOUR years of work !
“Presidential retirement benefits were non-existent until the enactment of the Former Presidents Act (FPA) in 1958. Since then, presidential retirement benefits have included a lifetime annual pension, staff and office allowances, travel expenses, Secret Service protection and more.
Pension
Former presidents are offered a taxable lifetime pension equal to the annual rate of basic pay for the heads of executive branch departments, like the Cabinet Secretaries. This amount is set annually by Congress and is currently (in 2011) $199,700 per year. The pension starts the minute the president officially leaves office at noon on Inauguration Day. Widows of former presidents are provided with a $20,000 annual lifetime pension and mailing privileges, unless they choose to waive their right to the pension.”
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
“As many others do, I am simply using the tools given to me by the government to do what’s best for me and my family. If you don’t like it, tough noogies.”
Bro, you old moocher you… meanwhile, back at the ranch, Money Boo Boo is perfectly entitled to use the tools given him by the gubbimint to hide taxable income, but you my friend, you are a moocher for doing the very same thing…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
1:44 pm
How did Senior Digits “earn” his fire department? the road to his house? the interstates? the airport?
JamVet
September 27th, 2012
1:45 pm
Where’s that darn trickle down when you need it?
In fact it seems to have gone missing for thirty years.
Who cares that a relatively tiny handful at the top get filthy rich while you schlep Republicans work for peanuts and keep losing ground?
Karma…
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
1:46 pm
For those that want a bit of perspective on my retirement vs older government workers such as Scout, here’s a bit of information.
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/index.asp
FERS is a retirement plan that provides benefits from three different sources: a Basic Benefit Plan, Social Security, and the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). Two of the three parts of FERS (Social Security and the TSP) can go with you to your next job if you leave the Federal Government before retirement. The Basic Benefit and Social Security parts of FERS require you to pay your share each pay period. Your agency withholds the cost of the Basic Benefit and Social Security from your pay as payroll deductions. Your agency pays its part too. Then, after you retire, you receive annuity payments each month for the rest of your life.
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/csrs/index.asp
The Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) is a defined benefit, contributory retirement system. Employees share in the expense of the annuities to which they become entitled. CSRS covered employees contribute 7, 7 1/2 or 8 percent of pay to CSRS and, while they generally pay no Social Security retirement, survivor and disability (OASDI) tax, they must pay the Medicare tax (currently 1.45 percent of pay). The employing agency matches the employee’s CSRS contributions.
Reagan and his Congress did away with the government defined pension and put us on 401k’s in 1987.
Krystal'sBalls
September 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
The Right Wing echo chamber is deafening, and annoying. Answer me a question. How is that despite all that is obvious in the current political climate and attitudes in the GOP about the Romney campaign, that we have this massive effort to push this narrative that the polls are being skewed to Democrats so that they can somehow lay the groundwork for an excuse for an Obama loss or to steal the election? Is it because the GOP realizes the only way Romney wins is for THEM to steal the election, and as a result they are telling that GRAND LIE as spoken by Roosevelt? Actually it is very easy to steal an election on either side given these electronic voting systems and I can tell you how. Everyone is for sale, and I am talking about those who would be the tool for them stealing. They (GOP) could very well be trying to put the fix in, given early voting has already started and the voter ID laws are being bogged down in courts. It’s really their last hope. They are collectively leaning on this narrative a little TOO hard!!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
1:44 pm
How did Senior Digits “earn” his fire department? the road to his house? the interstates? the airport?
.
.
I ’spec he sinfully lied about it.
Mick
September 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
Santelli is an a-hole!!!
Aquagirl
September 27th, 2012
1:50 pm
your ilk defining any who accept a gubbimint check (but yourselves, of course) as a “moocher” is the problem.
The 47% is code for “people who we think don’t deserve a gubmint check.”
I’ve asked repeatedly just what this percentage is, since they keep saying it’s OBVIOUSLY not 47%, even though they say 47%.
And then they’re angry when anyone accuses them of talking about 47%.
H.E. Pennypacker
September 27th, 2012
1:51 pm
Dow Jones
13,521.76 +108.25 (0.81%)
S&P 500
1,449.47 +16.15 (1.13%)
Nasdaq
3,138.66 +44.96 (1.45%)
I have it on good authority that the market is up on the reassurance from Dick Morris and his proprietary polling that Governor Romney is actually winning the election by a large margin at the moment.
Fact
September 27th, 2012
1:51 pm
“It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth — and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts.”–Patrick Henry
Obama has transformed us into beasts fighting the wrong villain.
The graphic below illustrates the underlying error: the class of people who deserve our enmity is not precisely “the rich” at the very top of the income ladder; instead, the class deserving voters’ wrath is composed of society’s predators and parasites, who span all rungs of the income ladder.
The Class Warfare We Need
John Birch
September 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
Close Jay, that BLS chart I looked at this morning said the work force at the end of August was 142,101,000 compared to 142,187,000 at the end of January 2009. But the claim that staggers the imagination is 4.6M jobs created while ignoring the 4.7M that must have been lost, discouraged workers, etc. And if you look at inflation adjusted wages per hour, all those new jobs must be at all the new McD’s and Walmarts!
mm
September 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
Keep up with the “moocher” talk cons. It’s obviously working out so well for your party.
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September 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
Brosephus @ 1:46
Quit ………. please ………. I’m crying all over my keyboard.
P.S. Don’t forget to ALWAYS contribute your maximum allowed toward TSP ………… that way your retirement will pretty much equal mine.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
September 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
(In that same announcement, the WSJ’s MarketWatch notes, “the government said corporate profits climbed $21.8 billion in the second quarter, compared to a prior estimate of a $10.4 million increase.”)
***********************
And what do they do with it? Hire more employees? Not as many as they should. Instead award an extra large bonus to the C’s & V’s because they alone were responsible for the increased profits.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/csrs/computation.asp
Here is how the CSRS annuity formula is calculated:
**First 5 years of service
you receive 1.5 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year
**Second 5 years of service
you receive 1.5 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year PLUS 1.75 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year
**For all years of service over 10
you receive 1.5 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year PLUS 2 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year.
For the people who retire under FERS…
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/computation.asp
Here is how the basic FERS annuity formula is calculated:
**retire under 62 or 62 and older with less than 20 years
you get 1 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year of service
**retire at 62 or older with 20 or more years
you get 1.1 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year of service
————————-
for law enforcement
you get 1.7% of your high-3 average salary multiplied by your years of service which do not exceed 20, PLUS 1% of your high-3 average salary multiplied by your service exceeding 20 years .
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September 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
Brosephus:
Actually, in many ways yours is an even better plan ……….. you can even borrow against your TSP over the years for college expenses, etc., etc.
What a deal !!
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September 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
P.S.
You’re boring people with all those calculations.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
KAMCHAK
Make no mistake that I remain the master of the obvious but your last comment gets you in the stadium:-)
Of course capitalism is now designed for a market that now plays like Vegas where short term growth is preferred. Used to be place where you invested over the long term but that hasn’t been the case for various reasons for years..that’s just the way it is..
I think many companies are putting money in longer term concepts (see R&D expenditures) but since the risk of getting flooded with cheaper durable products from China and the like..what’s the real value…at least in the case of green techology which remain…generally VC or PE plays given the risk that needs to be spread…
Most public companies live and die by meeting next quarters estimates…
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
September 27th, 2012
2:01 pm
Go ahead and think that the people receiving welfare and are overweight are repubs.
Most of them are.
Far more southern whites on welfare than any other group
Thats a fact.
The red states also have the highest percentage of those not paying taxes.
Brosephus™
September 27th, 2012
2:01 pm
P.S. Don’t forget to ALWAYS contribute your maximum allowed toward TSP ………… that way your retirement will pretty much equal mine.
So, once again, why are you trying to paint me as a moocher when you suckle at the government teat far more than I ever will? You should quit fighting and become one with your moochiness. If you spent far less time demonizing the very group you belong to, I’m sure you’d have much less self hatred or much less fear of accepting who you truly are.
Y’all have fun….
I’m really out now.
Ray Tardinski
September 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
Here is an example of some of those “moochers” and fellow kin of the majority of posters on Jay’s blog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related
getalife
September 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
We should close the income and wealth gap but the mindless gop votes for more corporate welfare and tax cuts will make it worse.
I don’t see the gop changing.
My plan is to mooch off the moochers
September 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
How Obamacare Could Help You Retire Earlier (or Destroy Itself Trying)
Leaving everyone in the dust of a once great nation.
HA!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
Regarding at “47%” idiocy, I’m wondering if we have say 35% of those 47% or whatever the number is that are more than 50% supported by government programs, what happens and the trend continues up to over 50% of folks rely on the government for more than 50% of income?
What are the options to pay for that sort of growth in those legitimately needing significant help? Let’s say the birth rate for that demographic exceeds that of those who need no help?
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
Here’s an idea. Since Mitt is so awesome with money, how about if Obama makes him Secretary of the Treasury after he beats him in November? Deal?
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
1.3% Yikes that is terrible.
Early indications are that seasonal hiring will be very strong this fall and last year not a majority by any means but a fair amount were converted to permanent positions.
I wish the best for any of you looking for work, I hope you get something soon.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
Most public companies live and die by meeting next quarters estimates…
And there’s your sign.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
Looks like bibi wants to bomb the enriched uranium sites in Iran.
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September 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
Brosephus:
“I’m really out now.”
No ………… you’ve been out for a long time.
Get a private sector job !
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Here’s the thing about those corporate profits… they’re a lot like gas prices or insurance costs… Gas prices fluctuate but they never quite seem to make it back to where they were, always inching up, never inching down. Insurance is a little easier to define, always up, 20% a year, for as long as I’ve self insured, since 2003. Corporate profits are at record levels, corporations will not magically begin to hire once a wingnut president is in place, why would they? They’ve figured out how to make record profits with minimal staffing, what on earth make wingnuts think corporations would want to hire more folks? If corporations haven’t felt the need to help out society when it needs it most, why would they feel obligated to do so now that the economy is getting better?
fair and balanced
September 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Is Georgia going to remain a red state when all the, minorities, seniors, women and veterans, college students and the working poor realize the GOP and Romney has written them off?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
Hummmmm ………………………… Granny, Debbie Do ………. are you there ?
“If a new academic study is to be believed, Republican women politicians look more feminine than their Democratic counterparts.
The study, by two UCLA researchers, found that female politicians with what are described as stereotypically feminine features tended to be Republicans, and the reverse was also true for Democratic women. GOP women rated, on average, twice as stereotypically feminine as Democrats.
In fact, the authors said the correlation was so strong that undergraduates were regularly able to guess someone’s party affiliation just by the way she looked.”
Read more: Study: Female GOP politicians look more feminine – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/27/study-female-gop-politicians-look-more-feminine/#ixzz27h9ovo89
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
“Is Georgia going to remain a red state when all the, minorities, seniors, women and veterans, college students and the working poor realize the GOP and Romney has written them off?”
Yes, because as Scout so eloquently illustrates for us, there is a certain sector of the moochers that don’t believe they are…
southpaw
September 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
Butch Cassidy @2:06
Your idea sounds a lot like one I suggested a few weeks ago. If Romney wins,Obama’s success against Al-Qaida might make him a good Secretary of Defense.
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
Fattest states and reddest states == moochiest states… go figure…
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September 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Rightwin Troll:
You have your definitions wrong.
It’s “entitled moochers” vs. “earned pensioners”.
They BOTH suck
September 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Mick @ 1:34
Yes it is
getalife
September 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
scout,
Return your monthly checks to the US Treasury moocher.
parah salin (the governor)
September 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
Once again, that 47% thing is a stat that is misleading. Taken out of context, it is difficult to know how much the 47% stat deviates from the norm. That is ALWAYS an important consideration when doing statistical analysis. I am sure it was worse during to last economic downturn that is similar in scope (the 1930’s era depression). Also, if this were really important, we would have been talking about how few people were not paying taxes in the 1990’s as proof that Clinton’s policies were working. I don’t remember THAT conversation. One final point. How would some one like Romney know about how poor people think? How many poor people does he know?
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
To be fair, Mitt has to say that 47% of the peole are “victims” and feel “entitled”. Afterall, once you eliminate the people that legitimately receive the benefits or use the tax code to their advantage, your really only left with about 5% who actually milk the system. You just can’t stir up the base with ” If elected President, I promise to deal with the 5% of the population who are destroying this country with their entitlement mentality”.
iRun
September 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
Bro! Wish we could chat. Another fed (CDC) here. Also under FERS. 12 years experience, but only 6 with the fed.
If I get paid from federal income tax…and I pay federal income tax…does that mean I (we) actually DON’T burden the system all that much?
USMC
September 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
“Most people that will vote for Obama do not have economic knowledge and could care less. But I’ll bet they watch the Super Bowl !!!”–Ken
“Cite an example please…”
Okay, here is your typical Obama supporter:
OBAMA HAS MY VOTE, HE GAVE ME A FREE PHONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tpAOwJvTOio
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
OBAMA HAS MY VOTE, HE GAVE ME A FREE PHONE
Thrice repeated drudgey spam.
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
If Republicans didn’t want people getting money for having kids or getting money back on the EITC, why did they create those programs in the first place?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
getalife:
Sorry ………. the U.S. Congress says I don’t have to.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
“OBAMA HAS MY VOTE, HE GAVE ME A FREE PHONE”
Wrong …………. four times !
getalife
September 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
“BARNEY FRANK: Pot brownie ‘made me sleepy’…” drudgey spam.
Rightwing Troll
September 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
Sorry brother… you and your ilks have defined anybody receiving a gubbimint check is a moocher… that’s the context we have to work with… your beef is with Money Boo Boo, not me.
Me?
I say you, my dad, my mom, my brother (especially my brother), my other brother, Bro, JamVet, USMC, and any others I haven’t mentioned by name fully deserve what you receive each month, maybe even more.
USMC
September 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
On election night, a reality check looms for someone…
Newly revised economic data discouraging…
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock…
getalife
September 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
scout,
Moocher.
Tom
September 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
The right-wing wackaloons (on here as well as elsewhere) are absolutely pounding the panic button. It’s a true pleasure to watch.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
“Mitt has my vote and money…. he won’t send me to jail for my criminal acts”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Doctors Grow New Ear On Woman’s Arm…
drudgey spam.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
Well, no suprize to me profits is up and employment is down. I don’t know about you but I’m working my azz off for the same pay. When Grady Legg left to drive a milk truck we all thought the boss would hire somebody to replace him. But noooooo! The boss just divided up Grady’s stops amongst the rest of us drivers with no more pay for us and just stuck ol’ Grady’s pay and bennies in his pocket. If I didn’t need to eat and drink and support my family and keep a roof over their head, I’d quit in protest. But then, the stingy sh_t would just divide my stops up amongst the other drivers and pocket my pay and bennies too.
I think I’m getting a inside look at how this Capitalism thing works and I’m not sure I like what I see. If the boss is going to shaft me, he can at least give me a reach-around.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
Drunk horseback rider leads police on low-speed chase…
drudgey spam.
Aquagirl
September 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
If I get paid from federal income tax…and I pay federal income tax…does that mean I (we) actually DON’T burden the system all that much?
Since you work for the CDC it depends on an individual’s valuation of “not bleeding out through my eyeballs from Ebola.”
Of course that means accepting the liberal-marxist theory of germs and viruses causing illness so conservatives would probably term you a moocher.
getalife
September 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
“Millionaire with cocaine habit so bad his nose collapsed jailed after stash found in roof of Bentley…” drudgey spam.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
Wakeboarder’s Severed Finger Found In Fish Caught 2 Mos. After Accident…
drudgey spam.
parah salin (the governor)
September 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
USMC what about the Romney supporters that will vote for Romney only because their taxes will be cut enough to buy thousands of cell phones. One more thing – how many of those people that sold the US government $500 hammers and $800 toilets seats are considered to have a victim mentality?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Businessman Offers $65M To Any Man To Break Up Lesbian Daughter’s Relationship…
drudgey spam.
BlahBlahBlah
September 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Let’s just print another 10 TRILLION DOLLARS and give every single citizen a check for about $30,000. I’ve got a wife and 2 kids, so our household would get a cool $120,000.
What could go wrong? Are all of you Bookman lovers in, or what? It’s QE-awesome!