On election night, a reality check looms for someone

The multiplicity of modern media has made it possible to create worlds within worlds, realities within realities. You can, for example, choose a reality in which Barack Obama is up by 3.5 percentage points, with an 80 percent chance of being re-elected, or you can choose to live in a competing reality in which “unskewed” polling reports the happy news that Mitt Romney is actually up almost eight points in national polls.

images-17However, a time will always arrive when your created reality must be “trued up” against actual reality. You can delay that moment, you can dodge that moment, but eventually it must come. Media technology, with all of its magic, has not yet created a work-around to that harsh exercise.

In the runup to the Iraq War, for example, the Bush administration created a reality in which Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, American forces would be greeted as liberators, ethnic differences in Iraq were of little consequence and the invasion would more or less pay for itself. Actual reality proved to be quite a bit different, but it took several agonizing years for our leaders to admit just how delusional their created reality had been, and to realign their policies accordingly.

Election days also have a way of realigning created realities to actual reality. On the evening of Nov. 6, we will not only have an answer to whether the polls or the “unskewed polls” had proved more accurate, we will learn a lot more about the American people as well. Each political party entered this campaign season confident that it had the backing of the majority of Americans; each believed that its message was more true to American values and more responsive to America’s needs.

The election is going to tell us which reality was correct, and which is in need of alteration.

images-11In my own personal created reality — and given human limitations and our imperfect understanding of the world, we all live in created realities of varying accuracies — Barack Obama should and probably will be re-elected.  In my reality, those conservatives who have been pouring into movie theaters to see “2016: Obama’s America” may have to come to grips on Election Night with the fact that a majority of their fellow Americans simply do not see the world as they do, that in fact they, not the president and his supporters, are the minority that is out of touch with the American mainstream.

I understand that would not be easy to accept, and that most will employ any means available to avoid doing so. The process is already underway and is easily observable. For example, the claim that current polls are biased against conservatives is at root a defense mechanism that allows them to deny in public, and for a while, an outcome that many of them in private now fear to be looming.

And should that argument fail, fear not, because this is a defense in layers. Conservatives are already preparing a fallback defense blaming their loss on the media. Beyond that they have prepared a defense in which they blame it on Mitt Romney, and beyond that on the Republican establishment that forced the selection of Romney on a party base that knew better.

All of those layers of psychic defense are designed to defend the inner sanctum, the holy of holies. Whatever happens, blame must not be allowed to fall on the conservative message. Blame it on those selected to spread the message, blame it on those who distorted the message, blame it on those too stupid to appreciate the message, but whatever happens, do not blame it on the message.

Because if the message is wrong, it forces a readjustment to reality that is too painful to be considered.

Read, for example, Erick Erickson, the CNN analyst and Redstate.com founder:

“There are a lot of elitist Republicans who have spent several years telling us Mitt Romney was the only electable Republican. Because the opinion makers and news media these elitists hang out with have concluded Romney will not win, the elitists are in full on panic mode. They conspired to shut out others, tear down others, and prop up Romney with the electability argument. He is now not winning against the second coming of Jimmy Carter. They know there will be many conservatives, should Mitt Romney lose, who will not be satisfied until every bridge is burned with these jerks, hopefully with the elitist jerks tied to the bridge as it burns.”

Read his conservative colleague, Ben Domenech:

“There will be very negative consequences for a Romney loss for the power of center-right elites who are largely viewed as foisting him on the base despite the latter’s objections. A Romney loss almost certainly pushes the 2016 nominee rightward, and I doubt the megaphones will be powerful enough to frame the 2012 contest, as they did in 2008, as one where the conservative Veep choice dragged down the ticket.

“Like it or not, the money and opinion elites on the center-right own Romney’s failure from the perspective of the base — they need him to win. And the reality is that if Romney loses, it will have little if anything to do with Paul Ryan’s big ideas, tactical choices, or elite misgivings — and far more to do with the simple fact that Romney is still disliked by most voters.”

Both men insist — and on this they are correct — that the battle is not yet lost. There is still time — barely — to turn the race around, although at this point something major would have to happen to do so. I have yet to see such anguished handwringing from anyone on the left, which tells you something.

The thrust of the argument from Erickson, Domenech and many others is equally telling: Should we fail, our failure can be explained only by the fact that our movement has been insufficiently pure, that our message is insufficiently pure, and that we ourselves have been insufficiently pure.  Move farther right, ever farther right, for there lies true salvation.

From my version of reality, that response dooms you to perpetual minority status. From theirs, it represents pursuit of the true faith. And one of those realities is very very wrong.

– Jay Bookman

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Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:04 pm

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:05 pm

a competing reality in which “unskewed” polling reports

an html headache alert is in order, here.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:06 pm

C’mon, Jay. Let them move as far right as they want.

Children and Republicans have to be allowed to learn some things for themselves. Even if the lessons they learn are very, very hard ones.

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

September 26th, 2012
12:06 pm

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
12:06 pm

Fred ™

_______

So what do you say, youngster.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

But drudgey has them even.

Lets face it.

Four more years!

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

September 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

GOP : the party of denial.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

BTW, that Unskewed Polls thing Jay linked to is the nutcase fantasy conservapolling thing my wife found over the weekend. I still haven’t had a chance to crunch their numbers and look at them in detail, but they’re definitely suffering from some sort of shared group delusion from what I can see.

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

From my version of reality, that response dooms you to perpetual minority status.

yebbut they’ll still have a clear majority of America’s… dirt?

Welcome to the Occupation

September 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

However, a time will always arrive when your created reality must be “trued up” against actual reality

It’s the point where reality gives way to the Real.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
12:06 pm

Fred ™

_______

So what do you say, youngster.
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I say ANYTHING but first lol. But it had to be short or I would be second or third. At least I don’t look like an idiot like All Bush’s fault if I’m NOT the first one that way :evil:

Mr. Holmes

September 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

I wonder how much correlation there is between this predominantly Right phenomenon and the tendency to have a strongly religious worldview. Substitute ideological purity with moral purity, and you’ve got an allegory to entering the kingdom of heaven, except in this case the kingdom of heaven is control of all three branches of government.

Just spitballin’.

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

I say let them forevermore pursue their purification of that which they deem not quite pure enough. Good riddance.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

The only reality that matters is mine, and in my reality, I am the dark chocolate that no woman can turn down… I am the man that makes John Shaft look like a cream puff. My election night reality will probably show that we’ll have at least 2 more years of jackassery before the next election.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:11 pm

Said before and I’ll said it again:

Clint Eastwood talking to an invisible President Obama was not an aberration, but a culmination. Republicans have created a socialist/marxist/kenyan/anti-colonial/thug President Obama that only they can see.

The rest of us see the President for what he is: flawed in execution, but at least giving voice to the things we want for our country and the better choice between the candidates running for President.

Cutty

September 26th, 2012
12:12 pm

It’s not the messenger, but the message that most of America dislikes. Look at their convention; lily white and old. They hate latinos, gays, blacks, and everyone who doesn’t look or act like they do. THEY turned a surplus into a debt, and believe we’re dumb enough to put them back into the game to run the same tired plays. Thanks, but no thanks.

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:13 pm

Another Bookman column about polls. Jay, this blog is getting stale due to your obsession with polls.

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
12:13 pm

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

______

A couple of weeks ago I was first and didn’t say so because I thought it was a stupid practice. But then I didn’t look right.
Last week I was first and announced it. Felt better. It’s silly.
But it’s tradition.
And it does not feel right to mess with tradition.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:13 pm

B. Sephus — ” in my reality, I am the dark chocolate that no woman can turn down…”

Yo, I hear you’re only SEMI-sweet and in fact, kinda bitter. :D

DannyX

September 26th, 2012
12:14 pm

That unskewed polling website is a hoot! Wonder what the unskewd electoral map would look like? Sure would look different than the updated Real Clear Politics map.

http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:14 pm

However, a time will always arrive when your created reality must be “trued up” against actual reality

That reality doesn’t have to happen, no. Some people will still sit there and spout nonsense no matter how far from reality they go. There’s a whole cottage industry of wingnut “rage” that’s been built to sustain these people. Glenn Beck is ready to sell you overpriced gold for when your fears will be realized….

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:15 pm

Again, please correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t most “credible” polls show that Scott Walker and Tom Barrett were in a dead-heat going into recall election night?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:15 pm

Is Tom the zoomy vet here yet, or is he still a blog or two behind?

Paul

September 26th, 2012
12:15 pm

What’s that story about the king who gets mad at the message so he kills the messenger?

The message is at the core. Question the message, the farfarRight’s cut adrift. It’s one thing to convert from one faith to another. It’s quite another to recognize your faith is…. misplaced and to have nowhere to turn.

“A Romney loss almost certainly pushes the 2016 nominee rightward, ”

So it IS going to be Hillary as president in 2016, eh? Personally, I’m really looking forward to her running against Newt Gingrich or Herman Cain. I can save a whole lot of money by dropping cable so I don’t have to pay for Comedy Central!

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:15 pm

Lets recap this cycle.

The gop primary looked at all the con candidates and settled with the money candidate

The money candidate can use all the unlimited donations from citizen united but still lose.

So now,. we get to the blame game on why they will lose.

I think it is very simple.

Americans know the wealthy do not need anymore welfare but the middle class could use some help.

It is so obvious, even our cons know this fact.

Getting them to admit any obvios fact is a different story.

gadem

September 26th, 2012
12:15 pm

hehehehe…Jay said Bush. That is the other four letter word!

Jay

September 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

This post is about polling like the Civil War was about tariffs.

AU Liberal in ATL

September 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

Romney keeps saying his policies are better, but he won’t say what his policies are. He’ll carry Georgia, but he’ll do it without my vote. I’m no fool.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

please correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t most “credible” polls show that Scott Walker and Tom Barrett were in a dead-heat going into recall election night?

No, you are wrong. The polls were showing Walker by 4.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

Oscar: If you will note I have been first on ALL the Bookman blogs that he posted today. Will that tradition continue for the rest of the day? :mrgreen:

In the Middle

September 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

My reality before November 5th will be the same as my reality on November 7th…can I make my house payment, can I pay my sons’ tuition, can we survive another year with this old car. These are the things that are important to me! By the way, Brosephus, I think I gonna have the vapors! #iswoon

Goldie

September 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

Mitt Romney is not the problem — it’s the freakin’ GOP itself and its outdated message for America in the 21 century… and we won’t go back to that outdated vision!

:)

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

Jay

September 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

This post is about polling like the Civil War was about tariffs.
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WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

This post is about polling like the Civil War was about tariffs.

In Rightwingnutstania, the polls only matter if your guy is leading. Otherwise the polls are cooked or we shouldn’t be talking about the polls anyway….

Paul

September 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

Mr. Holmes

” I wonder how much correlation there is between this predominantly Right phenomenon and the tendency to have a strongly religious worldview. ”

I wouldn’t think too much, else we’d be talking about the religious zealotry of Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders.

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm

Should we fail, it’s only because the vast majority of Obama voters are insufficiently educated, and couldn’t pick Joe Biden out of a lineup. Hey, Dancing With the Stars is on!!

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm

And Walker won by 8.

Mr. Holmes

September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm

I think it was Laura Ingraham who recently posted an item in which she said (I’m paraphrasing), “True conservatism never loses. Sixty percent of Americans self-describe as conservative, and when they have a truly conservative option at the polls, they will pick it every time.”

Self-delusion, exhibit A.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

DannyX — “That unskewed polling website is a hoot! Wonder what the unskewd electoral map would look like?”

Well, the lumpy pasty d-bag running the site (with his shirt buttoned all the way up to the top) says 301-221 Romney. Not surprisingly, he claims that all of the tossup states will go Romney’s way. Oh, and Wisconsin, too. :roll:

http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-vs-barack-obama-a-look-at-five-electoral-vote-projections

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

Class of ‘98

September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm

Should we fail, it’s only because the vast majority of Obama voters are insufficiently educated, and couldn’t pick Joe Biden out of a lineup. Hey, Dancing With the Stars is on!!
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And this is how the mindnumbingly insipid, brain washed talk radio listeners try to make themselves feel better and “superior.” The message their puppet masters put out is so dumb it’s a wonder anyone will believe it, but here again we have proof.

THIS is was passes for an “intelligent” comment to the Rushbots and the Nealsheep.

DannyX

September 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

“Again, please correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t most “credible” polls show that Scott Walker and Tom Barrett were in a dead-heat going into recall election night?”

Consider yourself corrected. In fact Real Clear Politics poll average almost nailed it.

Final Results Walker +6.8

RCP Poll Average Walker +6.7

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/governor/wi/wisconsin_governor_recall_election_walker_vs_barrett-3056.html

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:23 pm

“that response dooms you to perpetual minority status”

Awesome, when I am a minority, maybe my kids can get accepted to an Ivy League school despite average high school grades and low SAT/ACT scores.

And despite that, I’ll be able to tell them they have to work twice as hard as the majority to get ahead.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
12:23 pm

Class, I hate to break it to you, but that’s another line of defense invented by the right to fend off polling results they don’t like to hear.

The reality is, polling data on that race had Walker with a substantial lead for weeks leading up to the election. For documentation, here’s a piece updating polling numbers a week before the election:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/wisconsin-polls-scott-walker-recall-tom-barrett_n_1556653.html

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:24 pm

Thank you Danny. I was going off memory, which is faulty.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:26 pm

I expect Class will now deflect to something else from his world.

It’s really cool to have a live example of Jay’s column right here in the comments.

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:27 pm

Look at their convention; lily white and old. They hate latinos, gays, blacks, and everyone who doesn’t look or act like they do.

hmm. you’re talking about actual RNC delegates, or people who support their candidate? in either case, I’m inclined to think language like that is not real helpful, frankly. (and I’m the guy who is on record longing to decapitate neoconservative politicians and put their heads atop pikes, so work with me here.)

I don’t think most true-believing conservatives hate those groups. I think most are sincere in wanting equal opportunities without regard to race, creed and maybe even (they’re being dragged kicking and screaming of course, but they’re coming around slowly) sexual orientation; they’d certainly like more of these folks in these groups to be voting for GOP candidates.

I think they are constantly being baited into positions that play upon their somewhat understandable fears of Other Folks becoming sufficiently empowered to wreak some kind of vengeance for past misdeeds, though. Those who do the baiting–the Master Baiters, if you will–are very good at what they do, carefully calibrating their messages in a socially acceptable way.

and I could come up with great examples, but you know, I’m not paid to do this, so you’ll have to use your imagination.

Anyway, I really don’t think most of my citizenry is hateful. They may be shockingly apathetic at times, but not hateful.

larry

September 26th, 2012
12:27 pm

Not only is the message is problem , also , i think , the way they are passing these voting laws , in an election year, aimed at certain parts of the population . I believe that has turned a lot of people off.

And just for the record, i am for voter ID. But it shouldnt be passed in an election year and people should have access, by the state, to get a state ID. Also, students , who are studying out of state, should be able to use a college ID which would be verified by a letter from the college.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
12:27 pm

Awesome, when I am a minority, maybe my kids can get accepted to an Ivy League school despite average high school grades and low SAT/ACT scores.

Or, you could just change your name to Bush.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
12:28 pm

Yo, I hear you’re only SEMI-sweet and in fact, kinda bitter.

Depends on how much beer I’ve consumed. :)

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:28 pm

I think both sides have candidates that are the best you can get with today’ s “leaders”.

I think if the left wants to vote for the middle class but congress continues to vote for the wealthy, congress should be voted out.

On the right, compromise or saying something good about our President will get them voted out and don’t expect that fact to change.

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:28 pm

“THIS is was passes for an “intelligent” comment to the Rushbots and the Nealsheep.”

It’s funny how many pinkos accuse me (and all conservatives) of always listening to Rush (never) and Neal (very rarely), yet they never miss an episode of Stewart, Colbert or Maher

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
12:30 pm

All of us have opinions and beliefs that don’t coincide with reality. And most don’t change those opinions, even in the face of evidence. We just die out with our misguided concepts, to be replaced by a younger generation of people who have their on ideas and beliefs, sometimes in reaction to their elders.
That’s how society moves, not by people changing their beliefs as much as being replaced by people with different beliefs. That’s progress.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:31 pm

Class — “It’s funny how many pinkos accuse me (and all conservatives) of always listening to Rush (never) and Neal (very rarely), yet they never miss an episode of Stewart, Colbert or Maher”

I’ll bite. How much factual data do you have on the TV viewing habits of specific ‘pinkos,’ please?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 26th, 2012
12:32 pm

Well, my reality is getting to be, I kinda dread Nov. 7. That’s the day #1 Foxy Lady will be on here telling us Conservatives to suck the whole world and then go looking for something else to suck.

And that’s the day Mr. Orange Face will be on TV, mad as a doused cat about losing and saying once more, “Hell no, you won’t!” And we’ll be in for four more years of getting nothing done. And the Socialist Muslim Kenyan will be all grinning, knowing he won’t ever have to run for election again, and he’ll be squeezing each of our nuts in his hands and threatening to jump off the little box. He won’t need to worry about the Tax Increases coming up on Jan. 1 and won’t be in no mood to be nice to all the Republicans that called him every name in the book and now want to talk about compromise. And Mr. Orange Face will be sweating little watery bullets and cussin’ and getting drunk.

Oh, Nov. 7 is going to be a bad, bad day for alot of people.

Carol

September 26th, 2012
12:32 pm

Byteme-Got Milk
The rest of us see the President for what he is: flawed in execution, but at least giving voice to the things we want for our country and the better choice between the candidates running for President.

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Well said.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 26th, 2012
12:32 pm

That’s how society moves, not by people changing their beliefs as much as being replaced by people with different beliefs. That’s progress.

Average age is a lot higher than it used to be.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

You see how I used original thought without drudgey or any other propaganda?

Your turn cons.

What do you think about the two leaders?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

Class of ‘98

September 26th, 2012
12:28 pm

“THIS is was passes for an “intelligent” comment to the Rushbots and the Nealsheep.”

It’s funny how many pinkos accuse me (and all conservatives) of always listening to Rush (never) and Neal (very rarely), yet they never miss an episode of Stewart, Colbert or Maher
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Right, THEY all just copy you. They troll the blogs looking for YOUR ords so they can then repeat them. Things like calling everyone who is to the left of Attila the Hun a “pinko.”

Who are Stewart, Colbert, and Maher? Are they a new band? I’ve never heard of them. Punk Rock?

I like Crosby, Stills, and Nash though………

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMbuJXQCIvo

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

Awesome, when I am a minority, maybe my kids can get accepted to an Ivy League school despite average high school grades and low SAT/ACT scores.

Nope. Thanks to the current, but fleeting, majority being intent on decimating every minority protection rule or clause they can, you can expect none of the above when you become a minority. If you expect the new majority to enact those protections that you’re working hard to remove for them, then I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. As the old saying goes, “what goes around, comes around.”

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

How much factual data do you have on the TV viewing habits of specific ‘pinkos,’ please?

I’ll lend a bit. I’ve never seen Maher on my TeeVee (seen a few clips others have linked to), I find his brand of “oh-aren’t I a naughty little Libertarian?” rather tiresome, and while I went through a year or so of watching the day-after TDS/CR reruns, I haven’t seen them in ages.

Frankly, Jon Stewart pissed me off with his “March for Not Being a Dickbag” or whatever he called that rally in DC, when he didn’t even bother to tell anyone to freaking *vote.* I know he’s a bright guy and his heart’s often in the right place, but he’s hardly some progressive visionary.

LBB

September 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

In your version of reality, how is the budget brought into balance?

larry

September 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

And Mr. Orange Face will be sweating little watery bullets and cussin’ and getting drunk.

Which Mr. Orange Face are talking about?

After that Univision appearance, i dont know if you are talking about Boehner or Romney.

real john

September 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

No Jay, you and your elitist libs are wrong. It will be proven over time. As much as it pains me to say this, I actually think Obama getting reelected will be the best thing that could happen to the Republican party.

Obama, Reid, and Pelosi’s plans’ are certain failures. The only thing they know how to do is to borrow money they don’t have, spend it, and then tell us that we need to pay more taxes. Four more years of Obama will only make our situation even worse and people will realize just how wrong the lib’s economic plans are.

I just saw a poll that said that 90% of Greece citizens are against austerity….Well what do you know, people are against pay cuts for themselves?? Just because a bunch of mindless people vote for Obama doesn’t mean they or YOU are right.

Obama’s and the libs economic polices long term are a 100% certainty of failure. It doesn’t take a math genius to figure it out. Yet, you will continue to support and defend these stupid economic policies. The house of cards WILL fall at some point…The situation in Europe is only going to get worse and we are a few years behind. The only reason we aren’t in total economic collapse is that we can print our own money.

JDW

September 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

@Class of 98…”And Walker won by 8″

Actually he won by 6.8% of the vote..final RCP average was 6.7%….

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/governor/wi/wisconsin_governor_recall_election_walker_vs_barrett-3056.html

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

“Or, you could just change your name to Bush”

Or I could just be a minority. Oops, make that non-Asian minority. For some reason, Asians apparently haven’t had as difficult a struggle to succeed in this country as other minorities. I’m sure work ethic, focus on academics and career achievement, and family stability have nothing to do with that.

They obviously succeed only because the mean old, all-powerful white man is less racist against them.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:36 pm

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
12:30 pm

All of us have opinions and beliefs that don’t coincide with reality. And most don’t change those opinions, even in the face of evidence. We just die out with our misguided concepts, to be replaced by a younger generation of people who have their on ideas and beliefs, sometimes in reaction to their elders.
That’s how society moves, not by people changing their beliefs as much as being replaced by people with different beliefs. That’s progress.
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Well I’m younger than you and I believe I’m going to have a beer………

Jay

September 26th, 2012
12:36 pm

In your version of reality, how is the budget brought into balance?

By spending cuts and tax increases.

And in yours?

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:36 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:36 pm

real john — “No Jay, you and your elitist libs are wrong. It will be proven over time.”

Well, it sure won’t be proven in November. :D

Henry

September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

“a time will always arrive when your created reality must be “trued up” against actual reality. You can delay that moment, you can dodge that moment, but eventually it must come.”

There’s a song that fits here…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOiquKuoDac

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

Brosephus, are you familiar with SARCASM?

Here, I’ll dumb it down a little for you…. I’m not in favor of affirmative action, for me or for anyone else.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

Class of ‘98

September 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

“Or, you could just change your name to Bush”

Or I could just be a minority. Oops, make that non-Asian minority. For some reason, Asians apparently haven’t had as difficult a struggle to succeed in this country as other minorities. I’m sure work ethic, focus on academics and career achievement, and family stability have nothing to do with that.

They obviously succeed only because the mean old, all-powerful white man is less racist against them.
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I think you are on the wrong blog. Don’t you want to be here?

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

paulo 977

September 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

Sorry to cut in BUT …how can we ever forget?

RIP Andy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFQ5OggPXng

larry

September 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

No Jay, you and your elitist libs are wrong. It will be proven over time.”

Ask Mr. Cameron how austerity cuts are working in England

Tommy Maddox

September 26th, 2012
12:40 pm

Well, America will get and rightfully deserve that whom it elects.

real john

September 26th, 2012
12:40 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

AGAIN to my point, just because a bunch of uneducated people who will vote for Obama just because he is black and the unions vote for Obama doesn’t mean they are RIGHT..

Obama may win by votes, but that doesn’t mean he is the BEST or RIGHT choice…

The Libs will spend this country to collapse…the Tea Party and Paul Ryan are the only ones trying to put REAL, ADULT solutions on the table…no stimulus pipe dreams

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:40 pm

That’s the day #1 Foxy Lady will be on here telling us Conservatives to suck

#1 Foxy Lady is the Reason for the Season!

…kinda like Santa and his reindeer.

MiltonMan

September 26th, 2012
12:41 pm

“…may have to come to grips on Election Night with the fact that a majority of their fellow Americans simply do not see the world as they do, that in fact they, not the president and his supporters, are the minority that is out of touch with the American mainstream.”

Comparable to how libs in this state have come to grips that the majority in this state do not agree with them & they are out of touch with the mainstream in this state???

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:41 pm

Okay lets talk about cutting a deal on the budget.

Our President has proved he is willing to give the right more welfare with tax cuts to make a deal but the right have not offered any concession and refuse to do so.

So how do you cut a deal?

The American people voting is how..

Mr. Holmes

September 26th, 2012
12:41 pm

I’m sure work ethic, focus on academics and career achievement, and family stability have nothing to do with that.

Do you honestly believe that Hispanics in this country don’t have a strong work ethic? Have you seen the jobs they do? Or that they don’t have families as “stable” as typical white folks’ (most Hispanics are Catholic, in case you don’t know).

I mean, sorry to rain on your own little White Victimhood parade, but let’s keep things real.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
12:41 pm

Here, I’ll dumb it down a little for you…. I’m not in favor of affirmative action, for me or for anyone else.

Maybe you need to smarten things up a bit. Most people here generally tag sarcasm as such to avoid any confusion. I am intelligent enough to read and comprehend, but sarcasm generally does not translate well without hearing inflections or emphasis on certain words.

That wasn’t too smart for you was it? As to your view on affirmative action, my original post still stands as is. You’ll definitely get your wish, but I’ll pray that your grandchildren don’t suffer as a result.

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

What did I say that was racist, Fred? That I don’t believe in affirmative action, i.e. preferential treatment based on skin color? Wasn’t MLK also against that? What a RACIST that guy was!!

Was it that Asians succeed because of work ethic and ambition? Stop the presses on that one!!

In any event, thank you for proving for the hundred millionth time, that when a liberal can’t say any thing else, he accuses racism.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:44 pm

real john — “AGAIN to my point, just because a bunch of uneducated people who will vote for Obama just because he is black and the unions vote for Obama doesn’t mean they are RIGHT.”

There’s no point in that at all; just a bunch of racist and anti-union rhetoric without any actual content at all.

“Obama may win by votes, but that doesn’t mean he is the BEST or RIGHT choice.”

I’m sure you will get a great deal of consolation out of that thought in November.

“The Libs will spend this country to collapse…”

Spare me. Cons are doing it, too.

“the Tea Party and Paul Ryan are the only ones trying to put REAL, ADULT solutions on the table…”

Horsespit. Romney’s current budget plans call for CONTINUED deficit spending for the foreseeable future.

Carol

September 26th, 2012
12:44 pm

For some reason I believe the GOP started the blame game around this time in the election season in 2008. They realized that the Palin bump was only temporary. Once she had that Katie Couric interview all bets were off. John McCain’s ship was sunk. I’m sure they are already looking to 2016 or 2020.

Liz

September 26th, 2012
12:44 pm

What woman wants to go back to re-litigate their rights to control their reproductive rights?
This “new conservative” Republican Party rightfully proclaims it to wants to limit government, yet apparently has no problem regulating harassing requirements for unnecessary trans-vaginal ultrasounds, waiting periods and counseling before allowing an adult woman her constitutional right. This is “old thinking”, and it is killing the party.

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

“are the minority that is out of touch with the American mainstream.”

So if you lose by 4%, those other 48% are Americans are “out of touch with the American mainstream”?

I don’t think so.

Are they in the “minority”? Yes. Out of touch, out of the mainstream? No way.

We’re 50/50 (approx.) today, and we will be in November.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

real john

i would sugest we are actually 4 years ahead of europe.

their intial reaction to the Bush recession was austerity and that
failed….hence they are still in deep doo doo.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

[sniff] What is that Stench? Why I am sure with references like this for the top of his ticket, Ryan and his fellow Teapartiers will be more than happy to tell us how Romney was forced on them…..wasn’t that their excuse with McCain? :lol:

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

Holy Cow JHM, thta was freaking funny (and a little scary lol). But I HAD to see Obama with a little face too…….

http://tinyurl.com/c4hwnsh

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

MiltonMan — “Comparable to how libs in this state have come to grips that the majority in this state do not agree with them & they are out of touch with the mainstream in this state???”

I’m an American How about you?

If you want to posit some sort of push for secession, go right ahead, but unless and until secession actually happens, you’re an American, too.

Mary Elizabeth

September 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

Two differing ways of viewing reality, and one will take the lead through this upcoming election.

Isn’t that the essential characteristic of any evolutionary process – that what prevails, over time, will emerge as the newer reality? Hopefullly, our world will continue to evolve in the direction of greater egalitarianism, as demonstrated through this election.

Could it be that Republicans, somehow, subconsciously understand this evolutionary process will mean a small death to their vision and, thus, their railings against what seems to be happening? Understandable, to be sure, and even sad in the way that dying is always sad, but what emerges to greater life, as a result, will be uplifting for humanity, as a whole.

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

Dang Jay. Did you hire Class of 98 as your existence proof or is his presence here a coincidental part of your reality.

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

“Because if the message is wrong, it forces a readjustment to reality that is too painful to be considered.”

This is a battle over principles and ideals. Not messaging.

Class of '98

September 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

Anyhoo, let’s see what the almight polls show after the debates. You know, where Obama actually has to answer questions about the economy to the moderators and American people instead of answering questions about “Call Me Maybe” to Albuquerque Top 40 deejays?

I’m seeing movement in those polls over the course of the next month.

Li'l Aynie

September 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

Is it possible that the alternate reality of modern Republicans was the actual reality of the 19th Century?

Just look at a map of the “red” and “blue” states: the “red” states are more or less the same as the Confederate states in the 1860’s.

The important issues for modern Republicans are the same as those of conservatives in the 19th Century: mistrust of ethnic minorities, “social issues” to rescind Constitutional liberties, and guns for protection from incursions by the US government.

Mr. Holmes

September 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

In any event, thank you for proving for the hundred millionth time, that when a liberal can’t say any thing else, he accuses racism.

And thank YOU, sir, for confirming the stereotype of conservatives as folks who always preach personal responsibility to others but are rarely able to accept responsibility for their own failures. I am so very sorry that other people have let you down all your life.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

Class — “In any event, thank you for proving for the hundred millionth time, that when a liberal can’t say any thing else, he accuses racism.”

You certainly seem bent on putting everyone into nice, neat little boxes without bothering to find out anything about them.

If you’re going to make prejudging others your rhetorical standard here, then expect to be labeled a racist. A lot.

BTW, I’m still awaiting your pinko TV-watching data, so pony it up.

mm

September 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

The tea party is destroying the GOP, pushing it farther and farther to the right.

But the GOP keeps blaming their moderates.

America will punish them in Nov.

Carol

September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm

Real John
AGAIN to my point, just because a bunch of uneducated people who will vote for Obama just because he is black and the unions vote for Obama doesn’t mean they are RIGHT..
++++++++

Well, your comment proves Jay’s topic. The blame game. It also goes to the problem that many people have with Repubs in general–the idea that you have superior intelligence. You want to tout American democracy and force it to others all over the world, but don’t want to accept it from your fellow Americans. The only difference between the Taliban and the Republicans is they don’t go out and kill people for not believing the way they do.

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm

“hence they are still in deep doo doo.”

Apparently $16 Trillion in debt does not qualify as being in deep doo doo.

I would disagree.

ken

September 26th, 2012
12:50 pm

Are WE better off now ??? NOT

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:50 pm

I think we are the only country that believes the wealthy should not sacrifice one single thing after their collapse.

If the right wins, they get this.

If the left wins, they don’t.

The wealthy will sacrifice a little money they can afford to lose.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

Class of ‘98

September 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

What did I say that was racist, Fred? That I don’t believe in affirmative action, i.e. preferential treatment based on skin color? Wasn’t MLK also against that? What a RACIST that guy was!!

Was it that Asians succeed because of work ethic and ambition? Stop the presses on that one!!

In any event, thank you for proving for the hundred millionth time, that when a liberal can’t say any thing else, he accuses racism.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

You are the one who has brought up race you silly little man. You have done it in virtually every post. You can now deny it, but I linked you to a site you are very familiar and very comfortable with.

Oh, and typical of your breed, you lied. I NEVER said you were a racist. As a matter of fact, until this post, I have not even used the word.So I guess that make YOU a liberal whatever since when you had nothing else to say you called racist.

it’s tough when you can’t read OR think for yourself isn’t it?

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

Wasn’t MLK also against that?

since you asked:

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/2003/01/06/did-martin-luthor-king-oppose-affirmative-action/

In fact, King’s writings – taken as a whole, rather than the out-of-context quotes right-wingers prefer – make him sound pretty much like any current defender of Affirmative Action. “Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic.”

JDW

September 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

@MiltonMan…”Comparable to how libs in this state have come to grips that the majority in this state do not agree with them & they are out of touch with the mainstream in this state???”

And we are doing so well for it aren’t we…

—Growth<National Average
—EducationNational Average
—Housing Prices<<<<<<<<<<National Average (try dead last)

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 26th, 2012
12:52 pm

“In any event, thank you for proving for the hundred millionth time, that when a liberal can’t say any thing else, he accuses racism.”
.
.
.
I only use racist when a righty calls me a socialist.

They get their jockey pants all in a wad, but I’m supposed to like being called that.

Generally they can dish it out, but can’t take it.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
12:52 pm

BTW, I’m still awaiting your pinko TV-watching data, so pony it up.

Oh he’ll get right on that. Right after he shows where I called him a racist :twisted:

weetamoe

September 26th, 2012
12:53 pm

We do not have to like the reality to admit it. The reality is that it’s not only Romney who had no chance to beat Obama. Obama and his Chicago machine are so ruthless and corrupt that no decent man or woman could possibly compete. For factual info, just look back at every single campaign in which he has run–even in primaries against fellow democrats. Got my comments in late on your media bias chin wag this morning. Do you know what Evan Thomas had to say on the subject some election cycles back? You do know who Evan Thomas is, don’t you? Kinda legitimizes the claims.

JDW

September 26th, 2012
12:53 pm

Hummm half that post vanished…much like sanity in Ga’s Govtn

—Growth<National Average
—EducationNational Average
—Housing Prices<<<<<<<<<<National Average (try dead last)

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
12:53 pm

Fred @ 21:51

The voices in his head said you called him racist. ;)

LBB

September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

Jay: By spending cuts and tax increases.
—————–

Nice dodge. We already know about your reality, at least if it’s like your Idiot Messiah’s, where his $1.5 trillion deficit is closed by raising taxes on 1% of the population.

Too bad math gets in the way.

JDW

September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

damn did it again…Jay there is a bug

—Growth<National Average
—Education less than National Average
—Unemployment more than National Average
—Housing Prices<<<<<<<<<<National Average (try dead last)

Isaac Hayes Backup Singers

September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

Brosephus™
12:10 pm

… I am the man that makes John Shaft look like a cream puff.

=================

Shut yo’ mouth!

godless heathen

September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
12:27 pm

Well put.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

Carol — ” The only difference between the Taliban and the Republicans is they don’t go out and kill people for not believing the way they do.”

I don’t know about that. We’ve seen quite a few of our conservative regulars here in the last few days aggressively advocating the enthusiastic knocking of heads overseas.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
12:55 pm

Stands, a quote edited an out of context….. so it isn’t so. Why I dont think we have seen that before. :lol: ;)

getalife

September 26th, 2012
12:56 pm

“at least if it’s like your Idiot Messiah’s, where his $1.5 trillion deficit is closed by raising taxes on 1% of the population.”

Where did you get this idea that asking the wealthy to sacrifice one single thing will fix it?

larry

September 26th, 2012
12:57 pm

When Joe Scarbourgh does a double face palm after seeing coverage of a campaign rally, you can pretty much start looking for 2016.

The Senate will stay as it is and there is a 50/50 that the house will flip.

This is hilarous.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/joe-scarborough-romney-ryan-sweet-jesus_n_1915975.html?ir=Politics&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
12:58 pm

Shut yo’ mouth!

Well, I’m talking about Brosephus, then we can dig it.

:lol:

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:59 pm

Brosephus — “Well, I’m talking about Brosephus, then we can dig it.”

Yes! I, too, can dig it! Enthusiastically so! :D

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 26th, 2012
1:01 pm

On topic: Here is someone voicing the same concerns but sees the possibility that the right will go completely bonkers (not just bonkers, bat $%^& bonkers) if Obama wins.

I think we will see a surge in right wing violence. The hatred of a black President and one’s party being out of power is just too deep.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/how-rights-latest-conspiracy-theory-might-unleash-wave-domestic-terrorism-if-obama

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
1:01 pm

N-GA

September 26th, 2012
1:02 pm

Jay – One could simplify the entire argument about why conservatives still assert that Mitt is leading the race….FALSE BRAVADO.

End of story.

Mighty Righty

September 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

Interestng rationalization. The polls show the race as even, excepting those polls which count 9% more Democrats than there really are and even some of those show the election as even. Now if Obama who has pretended to be president for 4 years is no better than even, then one has to be psychotic to think Romney has to do something between now and the election that Obama doesn’t nedd to.. Actions are louder and clearer than words. Obama will have this race won when he quits campaigning and actually becomes president. There have been presidents who ran for re-election without campaigning because their record of accomplishment didn’t require a new round of lies to cover up their incompetence. Not so with Obama. He is running scared. BTW I understand Obama has a Real Estate agent looking for property in Hawaii and wants it to be available no later than January 2013.

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

Well put.

What can I say. I’m a cockeyed optimist at heart.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
1:06 pm

Gallup suddenly has Obama up by 6.

mm

September 26th, 2012
1:07 pm

The cons keep kidding themselves (and their voters) about how close the national polls are.

Newflash: Look at the state polls. Romney is getting destroyed in the electoral vote.

HDB

September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

Class of ‘98

September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Should we fail, it’s only because the vast majority of Romney voters are insufficiently educated,couldn’t pick Paul Ryan out of a lineup, and can’t face the fact that the demograhics are changing in this nation….with the inability to deal with it, communicate with those who fit in that dynamic…..and also create and support a message that could attract many in that changing dynamic!!

There…fixed it for you!!

Sagegirl

September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

Romney To Middle Class Ohioans:

In a line that event attendees found a bit puzzling, Mitt Romney warned a crowd of mostly middle-class onlookers on Wednesday not to expect too much tax relief under his administration.

Romney is not doing himself any favors. Is it another gaffe or does he actually mean it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/romney-ohio-taxes_n_1915949.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

Righty — “The polls show the race as even, excepting those polls which count 9% more Democrats than there really are and even some of those show the election as even.”

No, they don’t.

And that ‘oversampling Democrats’ argument is just further evidence that Republicans are actually Republican’ts when it comes to mathematics.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

Mighty Right: “Well this piece is certainly not about me! Here’s the reality.” :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hows that Ryan campaign for the House coming after his ad buy?

mm

September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

“The polls show the race as even, excepting those polls which count 9% more Democrats than there really are and even some of those show the election as even.”

See how the simpletons repeat what they are told.

Thomas heyward Jr

September 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

The War Criminal…(as per me AND Ralph Nader) may indeed win reelection ……..but it will NOT be by a majority of Americans.
Only roughly 16% of the population of single moms, blacks, lawyers, government parasites and frightened girly-men will put him in.
.
Bookman should stop the propaganda.

DannyX

September 26th, 2012
1:09 pm

Today’s Gallup has Obama +6. Obama 50%, Romney 44%.

Anyone have the “unskewed” interpretation? My guess would be Romney +5.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

I think the right will continue to lose as long as the middle class is in trouble and the gop votes against them.

No Americans believe romney wants to help them because of this fact.

They voted gop for jobs in 10 and that was a total failure because the gop voted against jobs to get our President for this election.

Pointsofvision

September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

“They know there will be many conservatives, should Mitt Romney lose, who will not be satisfied until every bridge is burned with these jerks, hopefully with the elitist jerks tied to the bridge as it burns.”

Wow, this conservative violence on conservatives must stop. If this is how you treat your fellow believers, how would you treat non-believers? It is only politics, not your children’s lives.

Micheal Ray Richardson

September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

The ship be sinkin’.

Mighty Righty

September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Here is some of the “false bravado” for ya.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows both President Obama and Mitt Romney attracting support from 46% of voters nationwide. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. See daily tracking history.

When “leaners” are included, it’s Romney 48% and Obama 46%. Leaners are those who are initially uncommitted to the two leading candidates but lean towards one of them when asked a follow-up question.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

Just as interesting, Gallup has Obama at the crucial 50 percent point, 50-44 …

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:11 pm

DannyX — “Anyone have the “unskewed” interpretation? My guess would be Romney +5.”

The HURRRRRR claim is Romney by 7.8.

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
1:11 pm

Well, I gotta have a chocolate Brocephus… I don’t know. It’s missing something. :smile:

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:12 pm

Thomas,

Your hate of the American people is showing.

It is ugly and doubt Ron Paul hates the American people like that.

Greg

September 26th, 2012
1:13 pm

Does either party have clear majority in terms of support? I don’t see the stalemate ending no matter who wins on election night.

Mr. Holmes

September 26th, 2012
1:14 pm

Anyone have the “unskewed” interpretation?

I’m gonna go with Bears 324, Obama -7. —Bill “Unskewed” Swerski

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:14 pm

Righty — “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows both President Obama and Mitt Romney attracting support from 46% of voters nationwide.”

Yes, but Rasmussen is full of spit.

Silver concluded that Rasmussen’s polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver’s model. He singled out as an example the Hawaii Senate race, in which Rasmussen, in a poll completed three weeks before the election, showed incumbent Daniel Inouye only 13 points ahead, whereas in actuality he won by a 53% margin – a difference of 40 points from Rasmussen’s poll, or “the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998″.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports#Criticism

Forty points off. Yeah, there’s some accuracy for ya. :roll:

Jay

September 26th, 2012
1:15 pm

Mighty, I’m betting we see a rather sudden swing to Obama in the Rasmussen numbers, especially given Gallup’s latest. Rasmussen likes being the conservative poll of choice, but he doesn’t like being way out on the end of the branch, which is where he finds himself today.

Watch and see.

Misty Fyed

September 26th, 2012
1:17 pm

We’ll just have to wait to see. I’m conservative but realize many people do see the world differently. I just can’t fathom why they want so badly to mimic the European model. Why they would rather live a life of mediocrity. Imagine a life with nothing but lukewarm showers. You never get cold, but you never get truly warm either. Why they vilify peaceful believers in individual responsibility and achievement but seek to embrace those that would slay them.

Pointsofvision

September 26th, 2012
1:17 pm

In all the polls, they ask the questions first and then ask which party the person on the other end is affiliated with. They don’t go out looking for Democrats or Republicans then call them. If there are more Democrats and Independents in the sampling, it is because more people now identify with the Democatic party and many people who used to call themselves Republicans are now wearing the Independent badge.

The Republican water is so poluted that even Libertarians are pushing them back. Unless the Southern influence is jettisioned, the Republican party will go the way of the Whig party. We are all pulling for you all to get some senses and be American again. We need thoughtful debates and the type of fresh ideas that used to come out of the Republican party.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:18 pm

Greg,

One side will blink after the election.

They have to listen to the American people.

straitroad

September 26th, 2012
1:18 pm

Jay,

Which national poll was more accurate in 2008, Gallup or Rasmussen?

Jay

September 26th, 2012
1:19 pm

“Anyone have the “unskewed” interpretation?

Pats by three?

Fly-On-The-Wall

September 26th, 2012
1:20 pm

Regardless of how the election turns out the Right will continue to have their very own echo chamber and belief systems. Damn the facts full speed ahead!

Misty Fyed

September 26th, 2012
1:20 pm

How frightened do you thing Iran is when Obama says the US will do what it must to keep them from getting nuclear weapons. They just watched someone torture and assassinate our ambassador and our response was that we are sorry for some video. The president then tries to cover up for the perpetrators by excusing their motives.

massachusetts refugee

September 26th, 2012
1:21 pm

Each political party entered this campaign season confident that it had the backing of the majority of Americans…

may have to come to grips on Election Night with the fact that a majority of their fellow Americans…

…are the minority that is out of touch with the American mainstream…

Jay, the word “voting” needs to preceed each reference to “…Americans”

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:21 pm

The polls will bounce around until right before the election and correct for credibility.

I watched ras go from mccain up by ten, then correct and scrub for credibility.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:23 pm

misty,

You bought drudgey lies and none of that is true. Wait for the FBI report.

Fly-On-The-Wall

September 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

Misty Fyed,

Unfortunately what you stated is one of the reasons people cannot identify with the Right. I’m a Progressive and have been for years but I don’t want the European model, I want the American model. It’s just that my view of the American model is different from yours. That doesn’t make it wrong or socialist or Marxist or anything else in that vein, it only makes it different.

When you loose the fear of ‘other’ things then I think you’ll see we’re all on the same side – we only have different view points.

massachusetts refugee

September 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

straitroad @ 1:18 — from the november 8, 2008 huffungton post

First, on the analyst tip, Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com was the big winner. His final projection for Barack Obama’s electoral haul, at 349, stood accurate as of Wednesday morning (though North Carolina could yet add to Obama’s total). On the popular vote split, Silver was also right on with his prediction of a 52.3-46.3 advantage for Obama.

As for polling firms, the respected Pew firm was right there with Silver, showing a 52-46 national vote breakdown in its final survey. (Though it’s important to note that pollsters, unlike analysts, see their principal role as trying to reflect the electorate ahead of election day, as opposed to making predictions.) Rasmussen can also take a bow for getting the national numbers right.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

Fred – “Zoomy”, you got me on that one. It must be negative comment if you said it about me ? Reading some of your posts, have your ever met anyone you liked or agreed with? Oh, I forgot about that guy you speak to in the mirror all the time.

Micheal Ray Richardson

September 26th, 2012
1:26 pm

Current odds from my offshore bookie: Obama -380, Romney +330. It takes $380 on Obama to win $100, $100 on Romney wins $330. Bookies give Carolina a better chance (+275) to beat the Falcons straight-up in the Dome Sunday.

Erwin's cat

September 26th, 2012
1:27 pm

Mr. Holmes

September 26th, 2012
1:27 pm

They just watched someone torture and assassinate our ambassador and our response was that we are sorry for some video. The president then tries to cover up for the perpetrators by excusing their motives.

Legitimate question: What should the response have been? Send in the Marines? Immediately sever all ties with Egypt’s new government? Send the Enola Gay over to drop the big one?

I take strong issue with your claim that Obama “covered up for the perpetrators,” but for now let’s concentrate on this foreign policy of “strength” that appears to enjoy yours & Romney’s support. What does it look like, exactly?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:27 pm

There was a shift on unions from the right recently.

Did you catch it?

It was about a catch.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

Fly, you are correct, they will continue to have their own echo chamber and belief system…. which will continue to sink if they follow the “we need to go more right”. Where do those “moderates” and “elite” go?

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

M. R. Richardson — ” It takes $380 on Obama to win $100, $100 on Romney wins $330.”

With that sort of return, it almost seems like Georgia Lottery scratch-off tickets would be a better bet.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
“hence they are still in deep doo doo.”

Apparently $16 Trillion in debt does not qualify as being in deep doo doo.

I would disagree.

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No surprise.

Would never expect you to think beyond your own talking point.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

KUTGF — “Where do those “moderates” and “elite” go?”

In my case, to the Democratic Party, where I suspect we’ve pulled the party a bit more to the center.

That might explain how the Democrats are gaining traction with questions like who’s more in tune with average Americans, who’s more trusted to fix the economy, who’s more trusted on defense, etc.

I don’t posit that the Democratic Party has all the answers, but I think that most Americans feel that the Democrats have *more* of the answers than the Republicans do. That’s why you’re seeing the polls move like they are.

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

I wonder how much of that Romney bet Sheldon Adelson is backing.

godless heathen

September 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

Fred – “Zoomy”, you got me on that one. It must be negative comment if you said it about me ? Reading some of your posts, have your ever met anyone you liked or agreed with? Oh, I forgot about that guy you speak to in the mirror all the time.
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I get on rather well with many of the folks here. You don’t like me because I point out the talk radio lies you keep posting.

I just wanted you to see the post o the other blog and you did. It was nothing important.

Want a beer? :mrgreen:

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:34 pm

TaxPayer — “I wonder how much of that Romney bet Sheldon Adelson is backing.”

You’d think a casino magnate would be smart enough not to gamble himself. :D

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

Sometimes I wonder why I chose to get on Jay’s blog, I guess I have always enjoyed a good challenge or game. You guys are interesting though, even if some are not playing with a full deck!

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

I think Stuart Varney said it best on Hannity last night. “I absolutely cannot believe polls that show Obama leading Romney”. It must be diffilcult having to live in a world wrought with so many scary facts.

mm

September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

Granny,

“Would never expect you to think beyond your own talking point.”

Do they ever? It might be possible to have an intelligent conversation with a con if they weren’t spoon fed their “thoughts” on a daily basis. It’s comical to read this blog daily and see their new daily talking point repeated ad nauseum.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
1:36 pm

I can see where the GOP is unhappy with either of their candidates from 2008 and this year as neither is/was as “ideologically pure” as the GOP would like. Quite frankly I would like for them to nominate one those extreme radical nut jobs in 2016 just to get it out of their system. And for the entertainment value as well. Palin/Cain in 2016.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
1:36 pm

JHM, and I for one welcome a diversity in the Democratic Party and not walking lockstep. There are times I can agree with Bernie, there are times I agree with the President and there are times I just have to sit back and understand that politics may require certain acts by party members that I find very unsatisfying and even sickening.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:37 pm

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

September 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Fred , you may not look like and idiot but you definitly are a bloviating first class ass clown.
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Wow. I’m impressed. You learned some new big boy words. It took you and hour and a half but what the hell, you learned. Glad I could be your motivation.

But really, it’s one thing to miss “first” by a minute or two but 4 minutes? REALLY?

Just Saying..

September 26th, 2012
1:38 pm

Good column, Jay. On the “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves” point, I do recall how much Humphrey closed on Nixon in the last few weeks in ‘68.

On the “We need to go further right” point, my mind tells me, “No, nobody could be that …confused”
Then I try to imagine Sean Hannity looking into a camera and saying, “It could be I don’t know everything”.
And then I think, maybe they COULD be that….

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:38 pm

Don’t believe the polls. They are tilted Dem by 5-12% Dem sampling , self reported by the way. Why is Obama in Ohio today with a so called 9.5% lead. Some reputable polls have it in a dead heat as of today. No debates yet. How many times can he say Osama dead and GM alive during a debate? All he’s got is it was worse than we thought and I need 4 more years…………Yea, 4 more…..some people still have a job.

Erwin's cat

September 26th, 2012
1:39 pm

oops … Jay beat me to it :D

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:39 pm

B. Cassidy — “I think Stuart Varney said it best on Hannity last night.”

I remember when that froot loop used to host business news on CNN.

This is Stuart Varney with “Your Money”

Well, who’s Stuart Varney and what’s he doing with my money??? :D

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:40 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

Sometimes I wonder why I chose to get on Jay’s blog, I guess I have always enjoyed a good challenge or game. You guys are interesting though, even if some are not playing with a full deck!
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Because deep down inside you are tired of the talk radio lies and want some truth. We are proud of you for that.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:41 pm

I asked for original thinking and godless gave me a naked Madonna.

We know where his mind is at.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:41 pm

Ima Librul — “Don’t believe the polls. They are tilted Dem by 5-12% Dem sampling”

Go ahead and give us the mathematical explanation of why that’s a problem. I’ve been asking for a cogent mathematical explanation of that for WEEKS and not a single one of y’all has enough of a grasp of statistics to be able to even start on that.

By all means, give us your analysis. I’m all ears.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

Fred…… That’s pretty funny…..The truth here???????

mm

September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

“Don’t believe the polls. They are tilted Dem by 5-12% Dem sampling , self reported by the way.”

The polls are skewed. That’s the con talking point for today.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

there are times I just have to sit back and understand that politics may require certain acts by party members that I find very unsatisfying and even sickening.

You MUST be talking about the elections of Pelosi and Reid as heads of their respective Governing bodies lol. I could ALMOST like democrats except for that fact. :lol:

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

Actually, Ohio begins voting on October 2.

I think the debates are too late to change any minds.

Fedup

September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

Class of ‘98

Class of 98 “Awesome, when I am a minority, maybe my kids can get accepted to an Ivy League school despite average high school grades and low SAT/ACT scores”. Did’t you know that minority Asian students with higher scores, are turned away from Ivy league schools so lower scoring rich white kids can get in?

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

Fred – You are right, sometimes I listen to Boortz(talk radio) and watch Fox, they do not tell anymore lies than say CNN or MSNBC? You listen to both and then form your own opinions. Thanks for the beer comment, but do not smoke or use alcohol, kinda of a health nut. That’s why my wife calls me Spartacus but I think you made lite of that previously.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

You are kidding Joe, right?

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

Clearly, Republican reality would prevail if only those pollsters would quit randomly sampling so many people that favor Obama. :lol:

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
1:44 pm

For some reason, Asians apparently haven’t had as difficult a struggle to succeed in this country as other minorities.

And the vote overwhelmingly AGAINST Republicans.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:44 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm

Fred…… That’s pretty funny…..The truth here???????
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Oh yeah that’s right, you think Rush is God so you wouldn’t know truth if it kicked you in the ass……..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
1:45 pm

Spartacus? Did she also ask about your Lumberjack song?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:45 pm

Funny how Class of 98 moved the hell out after he was shot down in flames on accusing me of calling him a racist………

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:45 pm

The truth is here but you choose to ignore it.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm

getalife. I believe 90% of minds are already made up. It’s a small slice we’re looking at.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm

who is Rush?

East Lake Ira

September 26th, 2012
1:47 pm

Debates Do Not Matter

You Republicans that believe Romney will do anything but act wooden and sanctimonious during the debates are fooling yourselves.

He’ll lie lie lie like he always does.

America will laugh and point.

Fly-On-The-Wall

September 26th, 2012
1:47 pm

Wow, I just read something interesting. Tom (Vet) just said that he listens to and watches Right wing programs but he feels that MSNBC & CNN must lie just as much.

There in lies the problem, no trust at all for the media. So if one side is doing it all the time then the others must as well. Wow.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

maybe they ought to poll at night when republicans are home from work, just say’n

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

I’m a lib,

I think all the polls will correct right before the election so keep up that hope for change.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:49 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

Fred – You are right, sometimes I listen to Boortz(talk radio) and watch Fox, they do not tell anymore lies than say CNN or MSNBC? You listen to both and then form your own opinions. Thanks for the beer comment, but do not smoke or use alcohol, kinda of a health nut. That’s why my wife calls me Spartacus but I think you made lite of that previously.
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ok, no beer. You want to walk up Stone Mountain instead?

Neal got boring after he sold out to the Republicans. All he says now for 4 and 1/2 hours is “Obama sucks.” Oh and every once in a while he’ll toss in a 76th grade crotch joke for change. As to MSNBC, I can’t say, I don’t watch it. I DID however watch them once. They had some show on where this dude was setting up stings for child molesters. I forget the name though. Cnn? Sometimes, not much. I mostly watch local news (wsb) and read. I find a plethora of articles, left and right, being posted right here. That’s how I often get behind in the discussion, I’m reading the links……… most folks don’t read the links, including the ones they post often times lol.

atelr8

September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm

Class of ‘98
Regarding your first post here today (re: Biden & Obama supporters) & others where you have belittled the intelligence of Obama supporters: You should have been in my company when I visited my ring wing family tree limb up in Minnesota recently. To a one they only rely on Fox News, Rush Limbaugh & Sean for their information & I kid you not.
Among my regrets after leaving their company, was the fact that I didn’t push them on whether they ever thought outside of their box, or looked outside their own beliefs & challenged themselves with a viewpoint other than those which they have held since their political opinions were first formed.
When they mentioned those media choices & I responded with, “What else?” I was met by the sound of crickets. Then my Aunt proudly spoke out & said, “Fox News is number 1″ & held her finger out with a 1 raised, as if their ratings status proved that everything she espoused was correct. I should have asked her why she was so personally invested in the ratings status of one media site but I didn’t, hence one aspect of my regrets.
Those of us who have been on both sides of the political spectrum & know our way around the internet as well as the newspapers & the television & radio dials, we really have no excuse for not trying to broaden our knowledge beyond what we are comfortable with.
And before you respond by challenging me or asking if go outside of my own media “comfort” zone, rest assured that you already know the answer or I would not have brought this up here.
On a final general note to everyone: Whether you are on the right or the left, if you are too lazy to independently fact check those e-mails you receive that have been forwarded to you, you deserve a special place in the halls of ignominy if you forward them on unverified!

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm

Yea East lake, for 2 weeks it was a movie that caused our people to be murdered. Yea, a movie. The guy is a piece of work…..and the View is a good place for him

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm

I think the debates are too late to change any minds.

The only reason I can think of to even think of watching them (and I wont) would be to see if Mitt “Gaffe” Romney sticks his feet in his mouth yet again.

Maybe he can clarify his position on how our embassy personnel sympathized with their attackers…

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

maybe they ought to poll at night when republicans are home from work, just say’n
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Well either they could get you right the hell now or you are ripping off your employer by blogging instead of working………

bez

September 26th, 2012
1:51 pm

Good article.

Erwin's cat

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

Erwin's cat

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

I just want to see if romney can remember all his positions.

I think it will be another train wreck for romney.

I think our President knows his positions..

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

I own it Fred. Evil over taxed one percenter. What else ya got.

gm

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

Mitt (Gordon Gekko) insulted half Americans beyond closed doors, most of these people were his own base, for all you right loonies name what President that has insulted his own base and won?

Mitt could have called southern conservatives poor white tr””””and they still would line up and vote for him just like former druger, high school drop out Rush Limbaugh said “this is not about Mitt its about voting against Obama.

The polls are correct Mitt will get all of the southern white males except Florida, 20% white conservative women and Obama will get every thing else, this guy makes Bush look like Reagan ”””’

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm

who is Rush?
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Really? Are you that clueless or just 15 years old?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpCASVFyQoE

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

Ima Librul — “You are kidding Joe, right?”

Nope. I’m dead serious.

Show me — mathematically — why that’s a problem. And if you don’t have any background in statistics, I won’t have any problem spotting that and calling you out on it.

BTW, saying something like ‘everybody knows’ is not evidence.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:54 pm

getalife………yea right…..a movie….no, a terrorist attack…..no a movie……..State Dept say’s a terrorist attack….no, a movie…….No, CIA sat terror………9/11, not a movie…….uh uh uh

Goldie

September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm

“Why they vilify peaceful believers in individual responsibility and achievement but seek to embrace those that would slay them.”

hmmm… Misty, got Kool-aid? :)

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:54 pm

getalife………yea right…..a movie….no, a terrorist attack…..no a movie……..State Dept say’s a terrorist attack….no, a movie…….No, CIA sat terror………9/11, not a movie…….uh uh uh
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Thanks but I saw fox and heard Neal and Rush. I don’t need your poor repeating of their words…….

Mr. Snarky

September 26th, 2012
1:57 pm

I’m just glad the repubs have it locked up tight based on their internal secret polling. I’m sure they’re all sleeping like babies. I wouldn’t want anyone panicking or anything.

Citizen of the World

September 26th, 2012
1:58 pm

I remember when it looked like Hurricane Isaac might hit Tampa during the Republican Convention — since many among them appear to believe in divine retribution (take that, New Orleans!), a friend remarked that maybe they would have to consider the error of their ways if the hurricane hit them in the convention. I said, yes, they probably will, but it won’t be the way you are thinking. They won’t think they’re wrong as much as not “right” enough.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:58 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

I own it Fred. Evil over taxed one percenter. What else ya got.
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Really? Overtaxed? You need a better accountant. I only paid 9% last year.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
1:59 pm

Joe, I’m not a statistician, but calling more Democrats than republicans and asking who they plan to vote for and saying that Obama is leading is a little dishonest.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:59 pm

They won’t think they’re wrong as much as not “right” enough.

Wow. What’s sad is that you are probably correct…………

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:00 pm

Joe, I’m not a statistician, but calling more Democrats than republicans and asking who they plan to vote for and saying that Obama is leading is a little dishonest.

Really? And you have proof of this dishonesty you can post for us?

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:00 pm

22% adjusted Fred on 1.3 mil in profit.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 26th, 2012
2:00 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
1:44 pm
For some reason, Asians apparently haven’t had as difficult a struggle to succeed in this country as other minorities.

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We stopped building railroads

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
2:01 pm

Gallup suddenly has Obama up by 6.

…but I see that Gallup claims to poll “registered voters” as opposed to what I’m told is a more accurate (at this point in the season) “likely voters.”

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx

which, I would think, might tend to favor Obama somewhat.

But then Nate Silver had Gallup with a +2.5 GOP house effect, so, I’m not sure what to think here.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:01 pm

I’m a lib,

Did you listen to our President’s UN speech?

It was very informative .

I even listened to iamanutjob’s last UN speech.

It was toned down but full of propaganda.

Obama is over

September 26th, 2012
2:01 pm

Polls are routinely manipulated to reflect the author’s perspective. The NYT’s had Jimmy Carter tied or leading Reagan significantly in their polls in the key “swing” states before Reagan’s landslide victory. The most recent egregious embarassing example of media bias was when you focused on Romney’s comments on the Libyan crisis while American lives were being lost. The concern was not about how we should protect Americans in harm’s way or what happened, but rather how to find a soundbite to embarass Romney. The realty here is the Obama adminstration’s agenda has been a dismal failure. His energy policy has wasted $billions.His foreign policy has caused our allies to not trust us while ecouraging our enemies to attack us. His domestic economic policies have resulted in consistently high unemployment, increased poverty rates, lower average incomes for everyone, and greater Government dependence. The media has done an excellent job providing salacious distractions from how badly the country is doing in order to shelter Obama from the cold cruel reality that none of his ideas are working. Yet he wants more of the same- passing the blame, ever increasing spending, and more government control.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

Evil over taxed one percenter.

George Soros and John Kerry say thank you for doing yeoman’s work for them…

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

The Braves are in the playoffs.

Congrats Atlanta.

Win it for Chipper.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:03 pm

Sorry getalife, I haven’t listed to Obama in over a year……….I watch the news, not Letterman, The View or MTV.

Don

September 26th, 2012
2:03 pm

If Romney loses, the GOP base will blame it on him not being a “true conservative” and the Republican party will finish it’s jerk to the right and become largely irrelevant in American politics.

Too bad, I liked the two party system.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

Better than that Jamvet, I provide 135 people with good jobs….with health Insurance I can afford for now.

Tinkerella

September 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

And Santorum & DeMint just backed Akin. And then the repubs wanna know why they are trailing? It ain’t rocket science, gentlemen.

skipper

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

I am not better off than I was four years ago……

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

You see, the way they make them polls come out in favor of Obama is they call folks and ask them if they are in favor of Obama and if they say no, they hang up on them and they keep doing that until they get enough Obama voters. Just ask any Republican. They’ll tell you. It’s the truth. They oversample Obama supporters because that’s the only way they can win. And that’s why Republicans had to take steps to undersample Obama supporters at the polls. So they could make things balanced again.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

22% adjusted Fred on 1.3 mil in profit.

Make that a MUCH better accountant lol. Hell, even Romney gets down to 13%.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

Refs are close to a deal and could be back Sunday.

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

Another broken bootstrap at 2:05.

mm

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

” I’m not a statistician, but calling more Democrats than republicans and asking who they plan to vote for and saying that Obama is leading is a little dishonest.”

The dolts really believe this.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
2:06 pm

We Hebes stand side by side with our black, yellow and red brothers and sisters! Always have and always will!

I love that we ALL are united in standing up to the misogyny, bigotry, intolerance and xenophobia of the Lily White Party.

And the two conventions always demonstrate that…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
2:07 pm

Sorry getalife, I haven’t listed to Obama in over a year……….I watch the news, not Letterman, The View or MTV

Can the silly poster be any more silly… :lol: Posting talking point absuridty is just inanity.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:07 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:03 pm

Sorry getalife, I haven’t listed to Obama in over a year……….I watch the news, not Letterman, The View or MTV.
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No you don’t. You watch FOX. They are a tabloid not news. They always have been.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:07 pm

I’ma Librul — “Joe, I’m not a statistician”

No kidding. I would never have guessed. :roll:

“but calling more Democrats than republicans and asking who they plan to vote for and saying that Obama is leading is a little dishonest.”

Oh, so you’re claiming that Democrats are overselected by design? Got some proof of that?

I wonder why conservatives aren’t bothered by polls that undersample poor people? After all, those poor people are less likely to have phones, but more likely to vote for Obama, right? And I wonder why conservatives don’t worry about the racial and gender makeup of survey populations? After all, if party identification makes such a difference, then shouldn’t the race and gender of the respondents make a difference? How about state of residence? Do you know for a fact that Rasmussen polls proportionally across all 50 states, or do you just take his word for it?

The fact of the matter is that if you perform your sample selection properly and have a large enough sample, your results will reflect the larger population’s results (within the margin of error) *even if* certain groups are over- or under-represented. This lately fashionable notion that polls are somehow skewed if their sample populations don’t accurately reflect the population they’re drawn from is quite simply total bullspit. IMO, it’s nothing more than conservatives trying to spin themselves some hope when Romney’s election chances are clearly going down the drain.

Just FYI, if you’re not a statistician, then perhaps you should refrain from making unsupported assertions about sampling and polling practices being “dishonest.”

Citizen of the World

September 26th, 2012
2:07 pm

Fly-on-the-Wall @ 1:47, that’s part of the “beauty” of Fox News. The network is so biased, while claiming to be Fair & Balanced, that even the people who watch it can see right through that claim. But it appeals to their fears and prejudices, so they will accept it, while assuming that all other media must be just as biased on the other side, otherwise, why would those crazy liberals tune in?

But that’s a cornerstone of brainwashing — to destroy faith in institutions. And Fox News has thoroughly destroyed their viewers’ faith in the institution of journalism.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

Better than that Jamvet, I provide 135 people with good jobs…….
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No you don’t. Your CUSTOMERS provide jobs for 135 people. If you had no customers you wouldn’tpay those people for 15 seconds. THAT is the fallacy of your “job creator” BS.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

“The Braves are in the playoffs.”
*************

Does that foretell a Dem win in November? Braves were in playoffs most of the 90s when Clinton was in office. Then had a playoff drought during the Bush years. They have had a resurgence since Obama took office. They were also competitive during the Carter administration and sucked during the Reagan/Bush1 years. So now we have our answer.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

“The most recent egregious embarassing example of media bias was when you focused on Romney’s comments on the Libyan crisis while American lives were being lost. The concern was not about how we should protect Americans in harm’s way or what happened, but rather how to find a soundbite to embarass Romney.

Just when you think you’ve seen the limits, somebody steps up to take it to an HNL.

In this case, it wasn’t Romney’s fault for accusing the president of sympathizing with terrorists, and doing so at a point when the bodies of our fellow Americans were still warm; no, it’s media bias because the media dared to REPORT those comments.

Sheez.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

I’m a lib,

I can tell,

You are very uninformed and read rw propaganda hoping for change.

Not going to happen .

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
2:06 pm

We Hebes stand side by side with our black, yellow and red brothers and sisters! Always have and always will!
++++++++++++++++++

Screw you. You left us white rednecks off your list dummy.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

Fred, I run a simple business ( yea, I know, bring the jokes) and I’m in a 35% bracket with little wiggle room to lower the rate……And just so you’ll know, they are changing the rules as we speak about direct expense and depreciating expenses. Example, IF I put a 4,000 transmission in a truck, I write that off as an expense and enjoy the entire expense this year. I’m being told now I have to depreciate that now and take the 4 grand over 5 years. Really helping me stay profitable and hire folks right?

Michael G.

September 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

Jay,

I’m looking forward to the day after the election and hearing your excuses for Obama’s defeat. (Most likely because of an Israeli pre-emptive strike against Iran) Then we can shove this blog about completing realities back in your face.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
2:12 pm

…not Letterman…

Nor I. Except tonight.

I want to change the world
I want to make it well
How can I change the world
When I can’t change myself
Try again tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-fuNVhbhZQ

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:13 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

Refs are close to a deal and could be back Sunday.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Damn right. That stupidity Monday night cost the bookies anywhere fro 150 million to half a billion depending on who you read. For that much money they’ll put a hit on Goodell and he damn well knows it.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8422934/seattle-seahawks-vs-green-bay-packers-disputed-mnf-call-shifted-150-250m-bets

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:14 pm

Yea Fred, sorry, I did build it. My risk, my work, my ideas, my hires. Everyone but the guvment has customers.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:14 pm

Fred, you sound like one little bitter underachiever to me.

gm

September 26th, 2012
2:14 pm

Obama is over

Can you say he has kept you safe for 4 years, bad Obama for running up the debt how dare he spend billions on Americans who were in need because the last administration destroyed the economy.

We are sure it was the media who called half of the country free loaders, you people need help””
+

Jay

September 26th, 2012
2:15 pm

See ya election night, Michael!

One way or the other, right?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:15 pm

Jamvet: Referencing my 2:09: I left off the :lol: I’m sure you knew it to be jocularity but just to make sure……..

detritusUSA

September 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

It is frightening to think that the republicans would go even further to the right. They would be approaching a totalitarian philosophy.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

“Refs are close to a deal and could be back Sunday.”
*****************

Much to the chagrin of the teams playing Thursday night.

cc

September 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

For the most part, this election will see two different classes of voters: the pro-Obama and anti-Obama factions. There will be some pro-Romney voters, but they will be in the decided minority. The anti-Obama voters have no choice, and they will not sit this election out because Romney isn’t conservative enough to suit them. The so-called news media is very biased toward Obama and I, as an anti-Obama voter, am happy to see the widespread coverage the polls are getting. These polls serve to unify and energize the conservative base, and they may even be working to Romney’s advantage in a way you do not explore in this column.

“Barack Obama should and probably will be re-elected.”

Well, Jay, your column IS an opinion column, isn’t it?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
2:17 pm

My bad, Fred!

! love rednecks and especially our RC. (The dope smoking/peaceful kind, not that right wing, Aryan nation kind!)

You know. Charlie Daniels before he went dipstick on us…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYBSvn5juIk

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
2:17 pm

How did poor lib ever survive in the days before Accelerated Depreciation. The horrors.

Get Real

September 26th, 2012
2:17 pm

Jay, no doubt you and I live in two very different realities however I agree that much to my dismay Obama will be re-elected but we disagree that he should. We will also disagree on the reasons why he will be re-elected; as far as I am concerned there are the riders and then there are the wagon pullers. Unfortunately, there are many more riders now in this country than wagon pullers and with Obama’s re-election it is only going to get worse…..

Mark in mid-town

September 26th, 2012
2:19 pm

Jay Bookman writes: “In the runup to the Iraq War, for example, the Bush administration created a reality in which Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, ”
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That is such a shamelessly dishonest rewriting of history and Bookman is certainly not the only liberal Democrat who engages in it. It was largely the Clinton Administration and Democrats before Bush ever became president who pushed the narrative that Saddam Hussein had a substantail WMD program, along with a whispering campaign about how the first President Bush didn’t take care of the Saddam Hussein problem. In fact, it was 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry who in the late 1990s claimed that he was even ahead of his party and the country in the need to confront and stand up to Saddam Hussein. It’s legitimate to argue that Bush should not have attacked Iraq as he did, but it’s just disgustingly dishonest to claim that the Bush Administration created a reality in which Saddam Hussein had WMD.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

detritus, How far left is this tribe on here. Off the map left is the correct answer. Funny reading how centrist the regulars on here think they are. Hell, It’s a loon farm that could make money having people pay to see it

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

Yea Fred, sorry, I did build it. My risk, my work, my ideas, my hires

Hmmm… funny how this posting buffoonery comes from the same poster who just whined about how his ability to take a tax credit for an investment in his business over 1 yr vs 5 years was an issue. :lol: So much for the “I did build it”…. Sorry Charlie.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:22 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:14 pm

Yea Fred, sorry, I did build it. My risk, my work, my ideas, my hires. Everyone but the guvment has customers.
+++++++++++++++++++

And without customers, you have no business despite your risk and all that other stuff you pat yourself on the back for.

As to ME being an underachiever? Yeah that’s me. I made enough that I QUIT at 40 and just do enough contracting to stay “alive” as a business while I live off the profit. I underachieved alright. I underachieved so much I send my daughter to Woodward Academy.

You are just as wrong on that as you are on everything else. Probably the major difference between me and you talk radio blowhards is my humility. I don’t consider myself “better” than someone based on my salary. Teachers KNOW they won’t make much going into the deal but they do it anyway. Firemen know they won’t ever be rich but they do it anyway. Soldier and policemen risk their lives for peanuts, yet they do it anyway. I KNOW I’m no better than any of those folks, yet you think they are pond scum. How sad. In order for you to feel important you have to run others down. You know who the most important folks in our communities are?

The trash men. Let THEM stop for a month and see what happens……..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uLtyzRgmyI

JOE COOL............

September 26th, 2012
2:22 pm

skipper

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

“I am not better off than I was four years ago……”

As the CONs say, get up and stop being a moocher.

TBone

September 26th, 2012
2:23 pm

Why can’t y’all just wait until the people make their votes count on November 6th. It seems as if the Obasma proppers are getting a little panicked with 6 weeks to go. Vote for the MORMON not the MORON.

Get Real

September 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

Mark in Mid Town…

Yes, I guess along with Bush, British Intelligence and Mossad were complicit in creating Jay’s alternate reality about WMDs

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

A 4000 dollar engine should have an expected lifespan of at least 4-5 years so that depreciation over the useful life of capital equipment makes sense. If that 4000 engine has to be replaced every year then the entire expense would seem reasonable for that year. I believe it has typically been this way except for 2011 when the Obama administration approved a bill that would allow for certain items to be fully depreciated that year as part of a stimulus package. Not sure if it was extended beyond that though. Perhaps there is a CPA amongst us who could better explain it.

JOE COOL............

September 26th, 2012
2:25 pm

skipper

September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

“I am not better off than I was four years ago……”

Maybe you should have turned stripper instead of a skipper.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:25 pm

Fred, you don’t know me. Want to compare charitable giving for a little wager? Picking an insult on a blog because they have a different political opinion than you makes you look rather “small”

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:26 pm

Mark in mid-town — “It was largely the Clinton Administration and Democrats before Bush ever became president who pushed the narrative that Saddam Hussein had a substantail WMD program”

Horse pucky.

Clinton didn’t push the ‘African yellowcake’ and ‘aluminum tubes’ arguments, and he didn’t make up the bulldada excuse that Iraqi noncompliance with UN resolutions gave us the authority to invade. I’ve read the applicable resolutions many times, and they all spelled out next steps in case Saddam Hussein didn’t act right — and NONE of them said anything remotely like ‘and then member States can go kick his azz after that point.’

If there’s some shamelessly dishonest rewriting of history, it’s on your part. At least have the stones to stand up and say ‘yeah, we did it and we’re proud of it.’ Don’t wuss out and try to blame Bush’s screwup in Iraq on Clinton.

After all, Clinton wasn’t in office, so by GOP standards, Bush owns that war all by himself.

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
2:27 pm

Don’t get too cocky and ahead of yourself Jay…there are 3 debates coming up.

Whatever happens in November…happens…we will be fine. We will not stop trying to hold our President to his campaign promises nor stop holding him accountable (since so called “Journalists” like yourself won’t).

I will vote on November 2nd and will urge all others that are not pleased with the way the country is headed to do the same.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:28 pm

East Cobb…..just got the call last week that all this is changing as of now. My CFO say’s our tax bill will go up about 25-30K on 1.3 mil in pre tax. I guess they are looking at every angle for cash. Maybe GE might pay a little tax. That would help.

Lord Help Us

September 26th, 2012
2:29 pm

‘t was largely the Clinton Administration and Democrats before Bush ever became president who pushed the narrative that Saddam Hussein had a substantail WMD program’

Remember when Clinton warned about mushroom clouds and said that, ‘there is no doubt that Iraq has, in fact, reconstituted its nuclear program.’

Get Real

September 26th, 2012
2:29 pm

Wow Fred….lot’s of hostility there. I do not believe I am better than anyone else because I have achieved, I have worked very hard as it appears you have as well. Did you feel you were “entitled” to your success….I hope the answer is NO as that is my answer as well…

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

TBone, that’s fine. You vote for that shameless, unprincipled coward from Massachusetts.

Or don’t.

Either way he will never darken the doorway of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Except as a guest of the President and First Lady…

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

“There is still time — barely — to turn the race around, although at this point something major would have to happen to do so. I have yet to see such anguished handwringing from anyone on the left, which tells you something.”

Come out of the Bookman Liberal Bubble…please also remove the word “Journalist” from your bio.

I am still voting for Romney/Ryan despite the fact that the liberal with a “Journalism” degree from Penn State has told me the race is all but over.

Suck on that.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

Jamvet: Speaking of rednecks with a huge change of heart have you heard Merle’s “America First?” It’s a long way from Okie From Muskogee lol. “Let’s get out of Iraq and get back on track…..”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UodJB1tRNVE

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 26th, 2012
2:31 pm

Mark

Bless your heart.

Jack

September 26th, 2012
2:31 pm

Reality for liberals includes their belief that I’m not entitled to what I have; that I’m supposed to share it with someone else: That’s what Obama considers to be fair. I’ll never understand why I’m being unfair if I don’t want to pay for the illegitimacy of others.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:32 pm

Obama will give a 100 answers during the debates……………..and say nothing. He’s the master at it

Jay

September 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

Feeling a bit feisty, Shamrock? Fear will do that to you, I’m told.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 26th, 2012
2:34 pm

East Cobb, you got it. ;) But hey, remember that poster did it all by himself….. tax deductions and tax credits are all part of building it on his own.

Can the claims by “I’m a liberal” get any sillier? Why I bet he’s making millions in the checkout line of the Whole Foods. ;)

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm

Jack……..no, the reality is that if they find out that hot dogs are bad for you, they want to ban hot dog,,,,,,,not that just THEY give them up.

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
2:36 pm

Clinton didn’t push the ‘African yellowcake’ and ‘aluminum tubes’ arguments

Aluminum tubes? you triggered a Cheney-related memory I wanted to share.

I’d love to post a sampling, but even if I cleaned it up, Jay would probably have to pull it.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
2:37 pm

It could be that leasing a new truck instead of replacing the motor may have been a better tax move. Then when the old truck is scrapped the depreciation could be accelerated.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:38 pm

You looking for a job East Cobb? You would have to move to Augusta.

Mark in mid-town

September 26th, 2012
2:39 pm

John Kerry from 1998:

1) “Every bit of intelligence John (McCain) and I have says within various periods of time, he can rebuild both chemical and biological. And every indication is, because of his deception and duplicity in the past, he will seek to do that. So we will not eliminate the problem for ourselves or for the rest of the world with a bombing attack.

2) “I am way ahead of the commander in chief, and I’m probably way ahead of my colleagues and certainly of much of the country. But I believe this. I believe that he has used these weapons before. He has invaded another country. He views himself as a modern-day Nebuchadnezzar. He wants to continue to play the uniting critical role in that part of the world. And I think we have to stand up to that.”

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
2:40 pm

Thanks for responding Jay…does being called out as a fraud of a Journalist make you respond to my posts? Deep thoughts…go look in the mirror and ask yourself…does the fact that I slam the Republicans 95% of the time make me a biased liberal? Am I really doing my job as a Journalist by blindly campaigning for Barack Obama?

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:40 pm

Mark, they don’t allow hind sight on here.

St Simons

September 26th, 2012
2:40 pm

Republicans have become so insular that they are like a slightly paranoid shut-in who is going crazier and crazier every day. They start obsessing over something, and with no one else to talk to and break their train of thought, they turn & talk to themselves in their closed echo-chamber. And that crazy obsession goes around and around in their head, until it evolves into full-blown delusion.

Cons need to get out more.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:42 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:25 pm

Fred, you don’t know me. Want to compare charitable giving for a little wager? Picking an insult on a blog because they have a different political opinion than you makes you look rather “small”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

I give 10% (gross) to my wife’s church. I volunteer with several groups, including TYSA and we donate clothes and other items to AKS. I built more free crap the last 5 years than I did paid for stuff for folks that couldn’t afford it. I have a friend who is a preacher at a very poor church. I regularly buy him and his family groceries. I have another friend with cancer who can no longer work. After 40 years he has no insurance because he’s not working at that company anymore and now has “pre existing causes.”. I give him money and food. I rarely talkl about my charity, but there are few people who can or would match it. I’ve been known to literally give bums the shirt of coat off my back.

As to me belittling? I’m not the one calling folks moochers and drains on society. Your very screen name screams asshat. All it takes to “belittle” you is quote you.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:43 pm

Steve, I’m with you, but Jay is doing EXACTLY what he’s paid to do. And they enjoy a few like us to visit to spit at and poke with a stick. If they were left totally alone, they would certainly start to believe this world of dribble they live in.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
2:43 pm

I’m a liberal, I lived in Aiken for a year while working as a contractor at what the locals call “the bomb plant”. Has not made any bombs for decades though. Liked it. Would live there again but it would be a hard sell to Mrs RINO. I am more of a systems/analyst type and not an accountant, but have had to work with that type stuff enough to know a little about it.

mm

September 26th, 2012
2:44 pm

“I will vote on November 2nd and will urge all others that are not pleased with the way the country is headed to do the same.”

Please do. Because the election is on November 6th.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
2:45 pm

Go look in the dictionary under “opinion,” Shamrock. I write an opinion column and blog. Opinion is, by definition, “biased.” The fact that you profess surprise at finding opinion in a clearly labeled opinion site …. well, I’ll just leave it at that.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:45 pm

Mark in mid-town — “John Kerry from 1998″

I’m aware of all the Congressional jabber, and I’ve said here several times that I reserve special obloquy for lawmakers on BOTH sides who voted for the AUMF.

That said, President Bush was, in his own words, “The Decider,” and so your attempt to slough off the collective responsibility for the war onto the Democrats fails.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:45 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm

Jack……..no, the reality is that if they find out that hot dogs are bad for you, they want to ban hot dog,,,,,,,not that just THEY give them up.
+++++++++++++++++++++

Damn, and I thought Bloomberg was a Republican……….

Oh and I left my safehouse link off the last post…….

http://www.safehouseoutreach.org/

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:45 pm

All that is good Fred. You sound like a good person.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 26th, 2012
2:46 pm

Steve

I think actually it’s Jay’s sense of humor that makes him respond to your posts.

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
2:46 pm

“I’m a liberal…” are you saying Jay has no integrity and does this only for a paycheck?

Zebra

September 26th, 2012
2:46 pm

The most mind-boggling thing about this race is the Right really thought they could win with a guy who refused to provide his own complete tax story and added a radical to their ticket who wants to shred the safety net so they can give Kim Kardashian money to invest in China and India.

It is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen.The Dukakis campaign was weak but this is terrible.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:47 pm

Jay — “Go look in the dictionary under “opinion,” Shamrock. I write an opinion column and blog. Opinion is, by definition, “biased.” The fact that you profess surprise at finding opinion in a clearly labeled opinion site …. well, I’ll just leave it at that.”

You’d think that people who routinely swallow the sewage that Fox, Rasmussen and Limbaugh put out wouldn’t have such easily offended senses of smell and taste.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:49 pm

Speaking of the bomb plant. The head of the PSC was on the radio here yesterday and said there is a move in Washington to can Wacknhut from their 80 million dollar security contract and move the US Military in to protect SRS. Hum. That will coat a lot of jobs here, but may save the government money.

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
2:50 pm

Joe Mama –

Jay is a journalist by trade. Check out his bio. He has also claimed to not be biased.

Sorry, I am not going to just let him spew one side of the story.

Ain’t gonna happen…unless he pulls the ultimate wuss maneuver and bans my posts.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:51 pm

Ima liberal: Have they changed the fact that after the 5 year depreciation that the truck goes off the books? If they haven’t, you can then sell the truck, don’t have to declare it, and can pocket the cash. I’ve never done it but I know others who have. As far as I know it’s quite legal. Same with other tools although I don’t sell tools. LOL I have enough tools for 6 crews still cluttering up my garage. Good stuff too……….

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:51 pm

Ima Librul — “The head of the PSC was on the radio here yesterday and said there is a move in Washington to can Wacknhut from their 80 million dollar security contract and move the US Military in to protect SRS.”

Did they mention any bill numbers? I’d be interested in reading such legislation.

Wonder how many soldiers or Marines they’d garrison in the area for a task like that.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm

shamrock,

“Suck on that ”

I think we found Foxy Lady for the right.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm

jay, 12:27
it’s funny, since obama will not even release his college transcripts….liberals do as i say, not as i do….
this column is a waste of space, another hit piece on republicans….enjoy the ‘total alteration’ of your radical leftist democrat party brought on by hacks like you and leftists like obama…..
oh, and the polls by the liberal media are trying to shape public opinion instead of reporting on it…..which is why they are polling more democrats and not even polling independents like the very latest polls in fla and ohio…..desperate times call for desperate measures in the dem party eh jay, which is why you are writing drivel like this…..

Jay

September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm

Oh my. Shamrock wants to be my one-man truth squad?

This sounds promising. :>)

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:54 pm

Jay is a journalist by trade. Check out his bio. He has also claimed to not be biased.

When has he EVER claimed not to be biased on his OPINION BLOG? You really are reaching and aren’t very bright.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:54 pm

Fred, I don’t have all the info yet, but I’m being told that lot’s of my expenditures that I normally take a full one year write off on are going to now depreciated over time thus a higher one year tax bill

East Lake Ira

September 26th, 2012
2:54 pm

dammit mm, republicans vote on the 2nd just like they always have!

getalife

September 26th, 2012
2:54 pm

bilbob,

birther much?

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:55 pm

S. Shamrock — “Joe Mama – Jay is a journalist by trade. Check out his bio. He has also claimed to not be biased.”

I’m aware of that. Do you know the difference in news reportage and opinion? Jay writes an *opinion* column. Given how exercised you are on this topic, one wonders if you were also demanding Paul Harvey’s head on a a platter when he was still alive.

“Sorry, I am not going to just let him spew one side of the story.”

He doesn’t need your permission to post as he pleases.

“Ain’t gonna happen…unless he pulls the ultimate wuss maneuver and bans my posts.”

Just bear in mind that the First Amendment only constrains Congress — so it will not help you here.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
2:55 pm

Jay — “This sounds promising. :>)”

Jay’s got a new boyfriend. :D

Or at least a new internet chew-toy.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
2:56 pm

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm

jay, 12:27
it’s funny, since obama will not even release his birth certificate, kindergarten attendence record, clean underwear certificate, I’m an American card, any other stupid ass trivial document some fright winger can think of college transcripts……….
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there I fixed that for you.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
2:56 pm

LOL I have enough tools for 6 crews still cluttering up my garage. Good stuff too…

Yeah, me too. Maybe not 6 crews, but a couple at least. A dozen or so nail guns, three miter saws, a couple of compressors….

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
2:56 pm

Joe, he didn’t and not sure a bill has reached Congress, but it’s in committee and that would be about a 3,000 job loss for this area.

southpaw

September 26th, 2012
2:57 pm

Sorry, Fred @2:51. If Ima liberal depreciates the entire cost of a truck, then he’s “supposed to” count the sales price as income. Pocketing the cash is fine, but not declaring the income brings up the question, “Is it cheating if I don’t get caught?” Sounds like you know some who weren’t caught–at least not yet.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 26th, 2012
2:57 pm

I think we found Foxy Lady for the right

Well, hold on to her. We might could use her on Nov. 7 cause a whole bunch of us will be hiding in our trailer and throwing rocks otherwise. I can sorta imagine the talk that morning: “Can you beleive it, Mary Lou? They went and reelected that Socialist Muslim N_____! We’re living amongst morans!”

Tom Middleton

September 26th, 2012
2:59 pm

Jay, the Republicans already are a permanent minority party, always first and foremost taking care of their chosen few. As we know from the past, they not only govern like a minority party, why only the wealthiest benefit from their policies, but they campaign like a minority party as well, doubling down on their ideology when they know we know it won’t work.

And if they go any further to the right, as you suggest they might, like with more of their voter suppression and unwillingness to compromise, they’ll be living in the ideological shadows of an American fourth reich. And while this might sound kind of crazy, I know, where else could they go, unless they change and decide to believe in American democracy again!

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:00 pm

Thanks Southpaw, it never sounded legit to me but the folks that did it swore it was. I wouldn’t do it though and never even asked my accountant about it.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
3:00 pm

“I’m aware of all the Congressional jabber, and I’ve said here several times that I reserve special obloquy for lawmakers on BOTH sides who voted for the AUMF.”

Me too…but the bottom line is that they gave Bush the authorization to DECIDE. So it wouldn’t matter if that AUMF had passed 100% in both Houses…it was still BUSH who made the decision and who gets the lion’s share of the blame

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
3:02 pm

Doggone — “Me too…but the bottom line is that they gave Bush the authorization to DECIDE. So it wouldn’t matter if that AUMF had passed 100% in both Houses…it was still BUSH who made the decision and who gets the lion’s share of the blame”

Exactly my point to Mr. Mid-Town.

Tom Middleton

September 26th, 2012
3:03 pm

Jay

And Emmylou is going to be on CMT’s “Crossroads” tomorrow night with Mumford and Sons. I know you’re a fan of both.

Scrivener

September 26th, 2012
3:03 pm

When Mary Elizabeth says” Hopefullly, our world will continue to evolve in the direction of greater egalitarianism, as demonstrated through this election…”
that kind of thinking is really scary. I seriously suggest she talk to some people who escaped the communist Soviet Union and see how they felt about being in a society where they tried to make everyone and everything equal. Besides killing any incentive to excel, don’t forget, you eventually run out of other people’s money. Like I said, really scary stuff being espoused around here.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:03 pm

Yeah, me too. Maybe not 6 crews, but a couple at least. A dozen or so nail guns, three miter saws, a couple of compressors….

well I guess I should rephrase that. I AM down to one small compressor. I had one stolen (at a free job lol) and “lent” the others out to guys trying to get started.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:04 pm

“That will [cost] a lot of jobs here, but may save the government money.”
****************************

I’m a liberal, from most of your postings I glean you lean towards the GOP point of view. So that must be quite the paradox when saving the government money hits that close to home. I am at heart a fiscal conservative but this is an example of where I have drifted away from the GOP and their tax policy. It is easy to want smaller government until the reality of what it means in the cost of local jobs and services sets in. As an analytical person, I can only see the budget and deficit getting better with both cuts and increase taxes. I simply do not see it possible to get there with cuts alone.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
3:04 pm

Thanks Tom! Excellent!

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm

Tom, you and I could on and on WHY the republicans are a minority party now, and it’s not because of a lot of bad ideas. There are a lot of of dem voters who have been cultivated out of a life of cradle to grave dependency that any society will have, but it has grown here in great numbers……And to stay on the plan, you vote. It’s pretty simple.

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm

Fred the Dope….

Just yesterday from Jay…Jay “tries” not to be biased…”I can try, and do try”

“However, I can try, and do try, although in this current job that is not exactly a job requirement. But I know for a fact that most of the professional reporters I know honestly do try to avoid injecting bias into their work. Achieving that goal is probably impossible — we’re all human — but they honestly do try to do so.”

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm

…that kind of thinking is really scary.

Socialism — BOO!

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:07 pm

Fred…do you feel stupid now?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:07 pm

Like I said, really scary stuff being espoused around here.

Naw, nothing scary here, just ideas. Some good some bad, but nothing to be frightened of.

I know you talk radio fanatics live on a diet of fear servered to you hourly by your fright wing talk radio fearmongering hosts, but the rest of us are made of sterner stuff and don’t scare so easily. We aren’t afraid of new ideas independent thought or free speech.

You can come out from under the bed son, we’ll protect you.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
3:08 pm

Shamrock, your penchant for name-calling could develop into a problem.

Just ask Fred.

DannyX

September 26th, 2012
3:08 pm

The liberal media has also infiltrated the college football polls. The liberal media top 20 is a joke.

Here is the official Unskewed Top 10

1 Rutgers 4-0
2 Minnesota 4-0
3 Northwestern 4-0
4 La Tech 3-0
5 UTSA 4-0
6 Louisville 4-0
7 Kansas St 4-0
8 TCU 3-0
9 Nevada 3-1
10 Oregon 4-0

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm

3000 job lost at SRS as part of that bill? Cannot be all Wackenhut. When I was there in late 90s the total employment there was a little over 10,000. It has probably dwindled over the years but there has to be more to it than just the security contract.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:07 pm

Fred…do you feel stupid now?
++++++++++++++++

What for? You wrote some words. I can write some words. This isn’t Neal or Rush or Kyles joint. Cite your source silly. If it’s legitimate I’ll admit I’m WRONG but as to feeling stupid? Nope. I would be stupid to try to argue a point that was incorrect, but to be ignorant of a pertinent fact is not an indicator of stupidity.

So come on now sport, cite your source and we can continue.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm

Yellow card.

alittlecommonsense

September 26th, 2012
3:10 pm

“the Bush administration created a reality in which Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction”

Well, I think the fact that we had provided WMD’s to Saddam, and he had a history of using them was pretty good evidence that he had them. The only unknown is what he did with them. But I guess if you are a liberal, you just take his word that he destroyed them. Because there was no evidence to back that up.

Liberal = takes Saddam’s word as gold / Accuses Bush of lying because he didn’t believe Saddam.

Why do liberals always take such a soft position on our country’s enemies and reserve their harshest rhetoric for their political adversaries?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:10 pm

Jay

September 26th, 2012
3:08 pm

Shamrock, your penchant for name-calling could develop into a problem.

Just ask Fred.
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It’s not the name calling so much Jay as it is your PERCEPTION of what name calling is. :mrgreen:

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
3:10 pm

Shamrock. As one who has been tossed, don’t get to personal with these fellows. Disagree yes, don’t get ugly.

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:11 pm

Jay,

I was called a “whore” earlier today and no comment from Jay…are you being biased again?

Dumb question…of course you are.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
3:11 pm

Fred

The kind of jobs that I do now are small remodels, so my Paslode Impulse gun is just the ticket. But it’s too expensive for day-to-day trim a whole house kinda thing. Plus, you can’t reflate a flat tire with an Impulse gun.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:13 pm

getalife and fred,
jay commented on bush’s college record so i pointed out that obama has refused to release his college records and there IS a reason for not doing that……..make up anything beyond that you want to, doesn’t change that fact…..typical libs

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:14 pm

Fred…Jay wrote that yesterday in his blog in his magical moderator box…Jay is my source for a Jay quote from Jay on Jay’s blog.

I think I done cut and pasted that from Jay yesterday….

Tom Middleton

September 26th, 2012
3:14 pm

Thanks for not going on and on, I’m a liberal, ’cause frankly everything you just said is a pure load of crap! But have a nice day! :)

Jay

September 26th, 2012
3:14 pm

Bottom line, alittlecommonsense:

Who was right?

The Bush administration claimed absolute knowledge of WMD, right down to the places in which it was stored. When the UN sent inspectors into those sites pre-war and found nothing, and found nothing, and found nothing … we invaded anyway.

And still found nothing.

The WMD were a pretext.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
3:14 pm

“Liberal = takes Saddam’s word as gold”

Nope, it was the investigation team that was on the ground in Iraq that convinced THIS liberal

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

…so i pointed out that obama has refused to release his college records and there IS a reason for not doing that…

Yeah, it’s birtherism.

:roll:

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

Very good I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not .

“Disagree yes, don’t get ugly”

Impressive post.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

I’m a liberal: You haven’t even BEGUN to get tossed like I have lol. I think I may hold the record……….. I was tossed for 6 months or a year. I forget which……… i found out I could post again on accident.

Kam:I have the original impulses, framing and trim, the black ones. I don’t think I can even get cartridges or batteries for them any more. Maybe one day I can sell them to a museum lol.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

alittlecommonsense,
two words…..power, control
if a conservative doesn’t like something, he doesn’t do it
if a liberal doesn’t like something, he makes sure no one does it
EASY

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 26th, 2012
3:16 pm

Just curious, if Obama does win, will the state of Georgia close the freeways so that all the angry driving that is sure to occur will not be a threat to the general public?

southpaw

September 26th, 2012
3:16 pm

Fred @3:00

They wish it were legit. Glad I could help, and please accept a tip of the hat from me (if I had one) for honesty. What you heard is just the tip of the iceberg of misinformation out there.

cc

September 26th, 2012
3:16 pm

Steve Shamrock@3:05 pm:

Give it a rest! I disagree with 90% of everything Bookman writes, but it is an OPINION column. You’re achieving nothing, other than making yourself look dense, by pursuing this.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:16 pm

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:14 pm

Fred…Jay wrote that yesterday in his blog in his magical moderator box…Jay is my source for a Jay quote from Jay on Jay’s blog.

I think I done cut and pasted that from Jay yesterday….
+++++++++++++++++++++

No you didn’t. See how I copy pasted your name, the date and the time stamp? See, if you do THAT I can go back and verify. If you don’t, then for all I know it’s just made up words.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
3:17 pm

You were called an “attention whore,” Shamrock, which is quite a different thing.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
3:17 pm

alittlecommonsense — “But I guess if you are a liberal, you just take his word that he destroyed them. Because there was no evidence to back that up.”

And here’s more rewriting of history. You’ve clearly forgotten that President Bush directed UN weapons inspectors — who were IN Iraq and doing their jobs — to get out ahead of our 2003 invasion. It wasn’t necessary to take *anyone’s* word at that point, because inspections were being performed.

“Liberal = takes Saddam’s word as gold / Accuses Bush of lying because he didn’t believe Saddam.”

alittlecommonsense = gets it all wrong because he can’t remember what was going on nine years ago.

“Why do liberals always take such a soft position on our country’s enemies and reserve their harshest rhetoric for their political adversaries?”

Have you stopped beating your wife? :roll:

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:18 pm

jay,
hillary and bill and almost al dems agreed that he had wmd….what about that?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:18 pm

I consider birthers to be, how should I put this without name calling, um, uh, stubborn to facts?

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:18 pm

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:19 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

Very good I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not .
Impressive post.
+++++++++++++++++++++

He’s been quite impressive and easy to talk to today. Almost like Doomy but not as annoying lol.

Speaking of Doomy, has he been around lately? I’ve been absent at night when he’s usually on……..

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
3:19 pm

billybob — “if a conservative doesn’t like something, he doesn’t do it”

Exactly. Just like conservatives do with abortion and buying liquor on Sundays.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

“The WMD were a pretext”
*************

The British even admitted to fabricating some of the evidence Bush used as his justification. As far as I am concerned there was no pretext needed. I would have been OK if he would have just admitted he was going in to finish what his daddy had started after our country was attacked by a terrorist organization which had ties to the Iraqi leadership. As to how well that war was managed, well that is a totally different rant.

Grasshopper

September 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

It’s pretty simple.

Aye, in the land of simpletons, it always is!

Dig an millimeter below the bumper sticker surface and it gets a wee bit more complicated.

Canadian (Bryan Adams) penned, English sung…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld_GcCoPIA0

the cat

September 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

Steve Shamrock-were you spurned as a child and just need some attention? I have never seen anyone quite like you that has been shot down and keeps coming back for more. Did that just describe your dating life as well? Geesh.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
3:21 pm

I know you fellows love the “non proven…or Care, juicy Obama this and that stuff” but the latest is when Obama was ask about Bill Ayers in the debate in 2008 and said, ” just a guy in neighborhood”…. That the Postman for Ayers for years is coming out that Obama was at Ayers house all the time growing up as a young man getting ready to start a career and that Ayers introduced the young Obama as someone like a son who we are helping with college…………….I told the person telling me that , so. He could of come out at the DNC in Muslim wear, pulling a goat and opened with a prayer from the Koran…..and still get 45%

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:21 pm

Understood Jay…I didn’t actually call Fred “stupid”…I asked if he felt stupid…very different connotations.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:21 pm

“And to stay on the plan, you vote. It’s pretty simple.”

And what is the reason that many folks are Democrat but do receive food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing?

You know the folks who vote Dem whose income levels range from the top to bottom. They own businesses, work at Fortune 500 companies (some are the CEOs), etc………

The excuses people like yourself are ignorant when looking at the overall voting demographics, but if it makes you feel good about yourself to tout talk radio talking points……… rock on

psst: not sure if you are aware but some of the same folks you ignorantly stereotype do not all vote or even vote Democrat………… yes, some vote Republican, but don’t let those facts get in the way of a good diatribe

carry on

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:22 pm

getalife, even the birthers pale in comparison to the deranged Bushbots who are STILL desperately trying to excuse the deadliest, most incompetent POTUS in a generation…

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:22 pm

This is actually fun…50 libs and about 3 cons and we are dominating this blog. Good times.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:22 pm

I can’t believe I didn’t get any comments on my Obama little faces. I thought they were almost as funny as JHM’s Romney little faces……..

http://tinyurl.com/9gjcwkp

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:23 pm

when it comes to someone deciding to murder a defenseless baby so that someone is ‘not punished by a mistake’(obama’s actual words by the way) then i stand up for that life…..why do you not stand up for human life and the murder of a baby…..ever heard of adoption
murder is the extreme position so congratulations on that joe

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
3:23 pm

hillary and bill and almost al dems agreed that he had wmd….

The were wrong.

…what about that?

Ms. Clinton lost to Obama in the primary, possibly for that very reason.

the cat

September 26th, 2012
3:23 pm

The sad thing for republicans is Romney is the best they have. Santorum, Perry, Newt, Bachman, Paul. UGH.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm

“I consider birthers to be, how should I put this without name calling, um, uh, stubborn to facts?”

They are dumb a$$es. Most probably do not even believe it if the truth was known, but it makes them feel good about themselves and the idiotic narrative that they push forth.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:25 pm

Fred,

Kyle is going to a wedding in China so the cons will come over here.

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
3:25 pm

I hear some variant of this rather frequently:

There are a lot of of dem voters who have been cultivated out of a life of cradle to grave dependency that any society will have, but it has grown here in great numbers…

It’s almost always expressed as if we’re JUST ABOUT to hit some tipping point, where the “takers” outnumber the “makers”, or producers, or “job creators,” whatever the right wing is calling them.

And I know I shouldn’t bother trying to ask such folks if they’ve ever stopped to think about this logically, and ask:

If it were THAT EASY to set up a populist political apparatus where you promised to give goodies to Subset X, taken from Subset Y, and gain a permanent, untouchable political majority—don’t you think some Whig or Federalist or suchlike would’ve done it and become the only political party in this country a very, very long time ago?

And if it’s actually harder than that to work out policy decisions—if, in fact, political operations can’t be anywhere near so brazen as they are accused of being—then isn’t it just possible that you’re not only oversimplifying this whole “makers v. takers” thing but flat-out delusional about it?

the cat

September 26th, 2012
3:26 pm

WSB radio just jumped the shark by putting on the high school drop out druggie Rush on weekdays. just saw the press release

SPC

September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

Why is it you think Obama should be reelected?

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

Jay – “are the minority that is out of touch with the American mainstream.”

Whatever side loses the campaign (I believe Obama will win but please don’t place $ on my prediction skills) we will still have millions and millions of people that will share their view. I don’t expect either side losing and saying we lost so let’s support the other side. Not the politicians or the general public who voted for the loser.

I don’t see either side losing this election and making a massive course correction that many are expecting. If Obama wins the Rep’s will blame the biased media and if by some chance Romney wins the Dem’s will say SuperPacs stole the election from the “real’ people.

Peace and harmony will not be arriving in Washington in 2013.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

Bb, murder is a felony in this country.

You must be very confused…

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

they were there and never found, just pointing out the dems changing of the goalposts based on the political winds…..that’s why hillary lost to obama is completely false and revisionist possibly…..thank you

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:28 pm

Steve,

Do you think romney would help the middle class when the gop will not vote to help the middle class?

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:28 pm

“Kyle is going to a wedding in China so the cons will come over here.”

Well, some can not, but that is another story

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

September 26th, 2012
3:28 pm

Tom, you ever watch the “man on the street” interviews from The left and right of WHY people are voting for Obama. This site may the Mecca for knowing why, but to the masses it’s pretty obvious WHY? Clueless comes to mind.

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:28 pm

Slow day at work…don’t always get to have this much fun.

Gotta get back to it to tomorrow…a lot of liberals are counting on my hard work.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:29 pm

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:21 pm

Understood Jay…I didn’t actually call Fred “stupid”…I asked if he felt stupid…very different connotations.
+++++++++++++++++++
Actually I believe Jay was referring to a different post, this one:

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm

Fred the Dope….
++++++++++++++++++++++

What kind of hacks me off is that I don’t care, call me what you want…… as long as I can respond as I want lol. But then this isn’t my blog or website and I don’t make the rules. I have been called some names that I thought were extraordinarily clever and funny but the host on that particular blog didn’t. Oh well.

You seem to have a problem admitting fault……….

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

September 26th, 2012
3:29 pm

BTW – Republicans have been singing the “biased media” blues for years now. This is not a new tactic because of the polling.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:30 pm

“getalife, even the birthers pale in comparison to the deranged Bushbots who are STILL desperately trying to excuse the deadliest, most incompetent POTUS in a generation…”

I know, post on a drudge link that w was a disaster and the cons run to his defense.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:30 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:25 pm

Fred,

Kyle is going to a wedding in China so the cons will come over here.
++++++++++++++++++++++

Who is getting married? The rich Republican one percenter CEO’s to the Communist dictators who provide the slave labor for all the jobs they move over there? I thought they were ALREADY married. Must be a rebribing. I mean renewing of the vows…….

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:30 pm

Mark, they don’t allow hind sight on here.

With all the posting that comes from people’s hind quarters here, that is nowhere near a factual statement.

:lol:

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:31 pm

obviously not jam b/c that is what is done during abortions…the babies are killed by unnatural means….justify all you want, but parsing words won’t work here

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:32 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:33 pm

“Not for me; I’m already married. My brother is, too, but next week he and his wife will have a special second marriage ceremony in her hometown: Shangrao, China.” Kyle.

I hope the smog is not to bad so they can breathe.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
3:33 pm

they were there and never found…

Atlantis has never been found either, nor bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

So now weddings are getting outsourced to China?

southpaw

September 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

dB @3:25

A permanent, untouchable political majority can be achieved–but only for so long. Consider this quote, attributed by someone else (rightly or wrongly) to Alexander Fraser Tytler: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

BillyBob

With your stance on abortion, you must spend a lot of time counseling pregnant women who are looking into getting an abortion and have adopted numerous kids.

Good for you.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

S. Shamrock — “This is actually fun…50 libs and about 3 cons and we are dominating this blog.”

Exactly! Just like y’all are “dominating” the polls! :D

http://www.electoral-vote.com

“Good times.”

Until after the election, that is. Then you’ll be crying, I think.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

“jay,
hillary and bill and almost al dems agreed that he had wmd….what about that?

And they were wrong, and Hillary paid for that mistake by losing the Dem nomination, as she should have. Her support for the invasion was a major reason that I voted for Obama in the ‘08 primary, and I’m sure I’m not alone in that.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
3:36 pm

If Barry is reelected, what happens to the GOP is immaterial. In four years he has never even mentioned, much less, proposed any plan to attack our indebtedness. Any new money he brings in through tax increases will go to all those fantastic programs he has dreamed of implementing all his life. Failure to extend the Bush tax cuts are going to bring on a deeper recession and Barry has no new solutions to get us out of the one we are in, much less a deeper one. The man has no idea about budgets and austerity and will keep on keeping on, the same track we are on now.

In four years, he will not be out of excuses but the country will be out of patience much worse off. By then, the GOP will have fractured and the Dems will be radioactive. No one can predict what happens then.

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 26th, 2012
3:36 pm

SoCoBro: The only reality that matters is mine, and in my reality, I am the dark chocolate that no woman can turn down… I am the man that makes John Shaft look like a cream puff.

Bro, when you wake up from that nightmare you’re having, please take your meds. Love Debbie.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

billybob — “when it comes to someone deciding to murder a defenseless baby”

Abortion’s legal. Murder isn’t.

Don’t be afraid to ask for further help if you need it.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

Too. Oops.

bilbob,

From birther to abortion eh?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:39 pm

“Her support for the invasion was a major reason that I voted for Obama in the ‘08 primary, and I’m sure I’m not alone in that.”

They listened to a guy they called curve ball and got punked.

I agree it was the reason she lost.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:40 pm

Bro, when you wake up from that nightmare you’re having, please take your meds. Love Debbie.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Love you too, lil sis!!

sheepdawg

September 26th, 2012
3:40 pm

noot moves back to earth in 2016 to challenge hillary, it’ll be as fun to watch as this one has been. wild eyed bachman, hummin cain, the chubby little moon man, pathethic perry, sanitorium, and of course …….willard and his corporate family. what a hoot! 2016 will be equally entertaining if they try to move further right from intelligent society

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:40 pm

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

So now weddings are getting outsourced to China?
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http://instantrimshot.com/

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm

Steve,

Was my question too hard for you to answer?

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm

In four years he has never even mentioned, much less, proposed any plan to attack our indebtedness.

Ummmm, didn’t Bob Woodruff just release a book that contradicts what you’re peddling there, homie?

St Simons

September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm

really, i dont know whether to be here on this blog on the 7th- or listening
to that fat gasbag on the am radio at noon on Wed 7th.
That’s gonna be epic.

Erwin's cat

September 26th, 2012
3:42 pm

Jay – Election days also have a way of realigning created realities to actual reality. On the evening of Nov. 6, we will not only have an answer to whether the polls or the “unskewed polls” had proved more accurate, we will learn a lot more about the American people as well. Each political party entered this campaign season confident that it had the backing of the majority of Americans; each believed that its message was more true to American values and more responsive to America’s needs.

The election is going to tell us which reality was correct, and which is in need of alteration.
————————————————————————————–

And what will it mean if Mitt wins the popular vote but loses the EC? (which I think will happen)…will there be a recalibration of either side then?

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:42 pm

Jay

If people’s feelings get hurt because of calling them out as attention whores, I’ll just refer to them as little puppies starving for a belly rub.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:42 pm

.justify all you want, but parsing words making up your own reality-free definitions that no on else in the world uses won’t work here

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

“Failure to extend the Bush tax cuts are going to bring on a deeper recession and Barry has no new solutions to get us out of the one we are in, much less a deeper one. The man has no idea about budgets and austerity and will keep on keeping on, the same track we are on now.”
**********

How is that austerity plan working out for Greece? On previous pages of this blog was a discussion about how a bill to save the government money could cost up to 3000 jobs in South Carolina. You cannot cut your way to a balanced budget.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

rafe,

He cut a trillion so far and your party walked away from the deal.

Why did your party walk away from the deal rafe?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:44 pm

Steve Shamrock

September 26th, 2012
3:22 pm

This is actually fun…50 libs and about 3 cons and we are dominating this blog. Good times.
++++++++++++++++

It’s so sad how you have to lie to yourself.

DannyX

September 26th, 2012
3:44 pm

I really feel sorry for our Republican friends. Their grief is very real. We need to show some compassion. They are going through a process. It really shows today, they are suffering.

Denial- They thought Romney was a wonderful candidate that would easily defeat Obama.

Bargaining- They thought that if they manipulated the polls they could show Romney with a lead.

Anger- This is where most of them are at now, but you really can’t tell the difference, they are always angry.

Depression- This one is next, lets hope they’re stocked up on anti-depressants.

Acceptance- Ha. Never. They will go off the deep end creating a separate reality, their own little worlds of make believe boogeymen.

God Bless you Republicans, good luck in 2016!

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
3:45 pm

I agree it was the reason she lost.

and, I’ll add, it was the reason a skinny half-black guy with a weird, slightly scary name got nominated. Primary voters had had it with the half-assed “well I didn’t really think by handing the keys to W he’d actually get in the car and driiiive” excuses for thousands of dead Americans and trillions pissed away, and wanted someone who had been right from the beginning.

or, so I like to believe, anyway.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:45 pm

You cannot cut your way to a balanced budget.

At least in the real world.

philosopher

September 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:23 pm

when it comes to someone deciding to murder a defenseless baby so that someone is ‘not punished by a mistake’(obama’s actual words by the way) then i stand up for that life…..why do you not stand up for human life and the murder of a baby…..ever heard of adoption

Clearly you have an information deficit about “having a baby”. Pregnancy is a medical condition, a risk to the mother and to the baby, 9 months of hormonal and body changes, tremendous discomfort. Worth all of it if it’s a baby you want, and/or planned on. Full recovery from a pregnancy takes months or longer (a C-section is not minor surgery) and some of the bodily changes are permanent. Often hypertension and gestational diabetes remain for a lifetime. And you would force a woman to have a baby by someone who has raped her…you would give her no choice but to face the physical and psychological damage on a daily basis for 9 months before she is forced to choose whether to put her child up for adoption (and and live with THAT pain all her life) or look at that child every day for a lifetime and remember the events that created that life? Talk to me after you’ve had a baby and I might give you some credibility.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

” ……………. we will learn a lot more about the American people as well.”

Jay:

You could have reduced your entire thread to the above statement which hits the nail on the head.

There is nothing “magical” about the American people. The bottom line is will we have finally reached that tipping point where the takers finally outnumber the makers.

If so, “you” will win by sheer force of numbers but the unique Republic that has enlightened the world for over 200 years will lose and will never again be what it once was.

God bless America.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

I think I made Steve cut and run with one question?

Perhaps rafe will answer one question .

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

Stands: I think they are constantly being baited into positions that play upon their somewhat understandable fears ……………………………. Those who do the baiting–the Master Baiters, if you will–are very good at what they do…………..

Most master baiters are…. :wink:

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm

And what will it mean if Mitt wins the popular vote but loses the EC? (which I think will happen)…will there be a recalibration of either side then?

________________________________________

I think that is a very real possibility as well, however I see the same exact things occuring as it did in 2000. Republicans will cry sour grapes as did the Democrats and the Democrats will tout the EC as did the Republicans.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm

St. Simons, four years ago I took a very hands off attitude. I did not give the cons a hard time, primarily because I respected the RINO (their word) John McCain.

But with this cowardly candidate, I don’t see that happening again this time! (grin)

I am gonna make a HUGE bowl of popcorn and enjoy the multiple neocon meltdowns and empty threats to move to Singapore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xgjtm4_M20!

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

In four years, he will not be out of excuses but the country will be out of patience much worse off. By then, the GOP will have fractured and the Dems will be radioactive. No one can predict what happens then.

Oh NOES!!!!!!!!!!! The sky is falling.

Don’t worry Sport, the Republicans will still be selling fear and you’ll still be buying fear and writing fearful little posts like this one…….

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:49 pm

scout,

You are a defeatist.

We will return to peace and prosperity.

We hit rock bottom under w and came back.

America is on the right track and now it is time to catch up with other countries.

Never bet against America scout.

You will lose.

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
3:49 pm

The bottom line is will we have finally reached that tipping point where the takers finally outnumber the makers.

yeah, that again. think I’ve got this covered already.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/09/26/on-election-night-a-reality-check-looms-for-someone/?cp=all#comment-1088645

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 26th, 2012
3:51 pm

Okay, I have to ask. I keep hearing about this “media bias” in favor of Obama. Can someone explain to me what it is the media gets in return for this supposed “bias”? I mean, it’s not like the Whitehouse is going to pull the plug on the media simply because they don’t like what they hear.

Tom Middleton

September 26th, 2012
3:51 pm

I’m a…@3:28

No, but like most Dems these days, I know real people who were born poor and hated it. But thanks to their parents, who worked their tails off at menial jobs to get them into schools and on up the ladder, they are now middle class, or were before the Republican Party tried to destroy it with their trickle-down BS. I‘ll check and get back with you later, OK?

But I sure wish Bush could have created some jobs during all his eight years in office. Thank God for Barack Oama, who has already done better in just four than Bush did in two terms, and without help from the worthless Republicans, I might add. NEXT…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
3:51 pm

“In a fiery speech to the United Nations General Assembly, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad railed today against the United States and European Union, whom he said have “have entrusted themselves to the devil.”

Well, there you go ……………………..

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
3:51 pm

And what will it mean if Mitt wins the popular vote but loses the EC? (which I think will happen)…

Nate’s “Scenario analysis” has a whopping 2.1% probability for “Romney wins popular vote but loses electoral college.”

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

I really don’t think that’s going to happen.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:52 pm

Her support for the invasion was a major reason that I voted for Obama in the ‘08 primary, and I’m sure I’m not alone in that.

You’re right.

For me, it was the kiss of death for the 43% of Dems (not almost all) in the US Congress who did…

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:53 pm

There is nothing “magical” about the American people. The bottom line is will we have finally reached that tipping point where the takers finally outnumber the makers.

Funny that this comes from a “taker”.

:lol: :lol:

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:53 pm

getalife,
never brought up birther….and was responding to question about abortion from someone else……recess is in 20 minutes, have fun

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:53 pm

For any con, How will romney help the middle class when the gop will not vote to help the middle class.

Do you think romney is lying or is he going to change the gop?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
3:54 pm

and, I’ll add, it was the reason a skinny half-black guy with a weird, slightly scary name got nominated.

A reason, but maybe not the primary reason. I believe that it was you who made the point that misogyny mountain is a higher hill to climb.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

September 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

Butch – “Okay, I have to ask. I keep hearing about this “media bias” in favor of Obama. Can someone explain to me what it is the media gets in return for this supposed “bias”? I mean, it’s not like the Whitehouse is going to pull the plug on the media simply because they don’t like what they hear.”

The theory being that the media supports Liberals because they are in fact Liberal, thus getting policies that they like. So in essence by helping Liberals they are helping themselves. I am not saying this is my position but merely an effort to answer your question. :)

cc

September 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

Jay:

I guess that Obama’s take on the assassination of Ambassador Stevens is one that you accept? Obama has not publicly stated that the attack on the embassy was a planned and well-coordinated event, and in fact still appears to want us to believe that the single cause was a movie. I guess it was just a coincidence that the attack occurred on 9/11?

nelson

September 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

The way to settle the issue of the polls is follow the AJC, they are the most credible source of unbiased information that I have ever read. To think that Obama could get a fair shake in Atlanta no, it is so pro Romney that I thought for some time to stop accessing the site all together. Why, even the cartoons are for ever and ever making fun of Prez O, just once could you make Romney the butt of your ridicule?
Who was it Harry Reed, that exclaimed that Romney was a discredit to Mormonism, the Senate Majority leader. There is a seperartion of church and state,how could we forget President Obama? Never a word about our muslim neighbors.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

They BOTH @ 3:47

Couldn’t have stated it better myself. What goes around, comes back around.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

bilbob,

I am having fun.

Can you answer my question @ 3:53.

I am listening.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm

Brosephus

Sparring with the GOP over what percentage of revenue increases to implement and how much spending can be eliminated, is hardly a plan. Like the rest of his presidency, most of his initiatives are “catch as catch can”, pulled from his neither regions as he needs a new one.

A PLAN, would be something in writing, that can be discussed, rewritten, and passed around for others to consider. Something that could go to a committee in the House, debated, voted on, amended, and hopefully passed and binding on at least this Congress. Something like say, Graham/Rudman or something similiar. Obama wants something that is not binding, not recorded, and something that he can fiddle with and change as he needs to.

Obama is the absolute worst organized and focused President in my lifetime.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm

“Do you think romney is lying or is he going to change the gop?”
*************************************

That kind of question could get a Col Jessup “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH” response.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm

Anger- This is where most of them are at now, but you really can’t tell the difference, they are always angry.

LOL, Danny!

Their perpetual state, thanks to the always enraged and outraged doomsayers and Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, Boortz, et al ad nauseum!

stands for decibels

September 26th, 2012
3:58 pm

I believe that it was you who made the point that misogyny mountain is a higher hill to climb.

I’ve never quite made THAT point, although it’s got some merit.

What I have said is that Hillary would’ve likely gotten it even nastier from the right than Obama, had she won, because casual misogyny is more socially acceptable than casual racism.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
3:59 pm

Scout

I could be wrong, however I believe you are a retired from the Federal government.

Are you part of those workers who the right claims have to many benefits paid for by the tax payer?

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
3:59 pm

tbs,
thank you……will never stop fighting for the rights of and standing up for defenseless babies that are to be killed…..
also tom,
the universe of jobs is almost 3 million less than when obama came in office and he is down about 3 million in net new jobs, so the fact that you believe he has actually created 4.5 million jobs means that you ignore the lower universe of jobs, the chronic unemployment rate, the people who have left the workforce and the 24 million underemployed now in this country…..also over half the jobs obama has created are jobs that pay 13/hr or less……good luck in that future…

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
4:00 pm

Never a word about our muslim neighbors.

Shades of Teddy Roosevelt? “Speak softly and carry a big stick.”

Ask Osama bin Laden…

Jerome Horwitz

September 26th, 2012
4:00 pm

Bro – Make John Shaft look like a cream puff……….You’re a mean mother fu…..Shut your mouth!

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

Here’s a little irony for you. Valerie Perino (Former Bush Staffer) was railing about Harry Reids remarks regarding Mitt and his Mormon faith. To which Valerie responded that Reids remarks about Romney were uncalled for, and that no one ever asks Harry Reid about his religious beliefs. Of course the irony, is that Harry Reid is also a Mormon. :)

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

Billybob

So you do counsel these women and / or have adopted kids?

GT

September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

These people, the GOP, have played games with the truth so long they are addicted to lies. They have gone from their unreal reality that the world all agrees with them, what fool doesn’t love greed and hate, to the next argument,the world should agree with the Republicans, they’re just not telling it right. What is absolutely amazing is how much money do you need to tell the story right? These people have spent a half billion dollars, most money every spent or misspent in the history of American politics to tell us how conservative they are and how disciplined they can run our government. At the end of all this smoke is a huge hole and something in it, not unlike how they left our economy. Now they want to blame someone else, this story is getting old.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

Steve,

Substitute corporate media for liberal media and you would be correct.

It helps their corporations.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

B. Cassidy — “Can someone explain to me what it is the media gets in return for this supposed “bias”?

I would think they receive *access* to the White House Press Pool and to WH staffers. Then again, FNC is in the WH pool, perhaps not.

“I mean, it’s not like the Whitehouse is going to pull the plug on the media simply because they don’t like what they hear.”

Well, they *could.* There’s no right of access to the WHPP just because you claim to be a news outfit. Remember the outcry when Jeff Gannon and “Talon Media” got a WH press credential and Gannon started asking questions? Remember when Gannon’s photo turned up on a gay dating site and questions started flying about which WH official was Gannon’s special friend and got him that press credential?

Any WH could conceivably kick any news organization out of the pool (or decredential a given reporter) for whatever reason, but I imagine that doing so would cause a lot of close media scrutiny from the remaining members unless the banished organization/reporter had clearly crossed some sort of line.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

Jamvet

What is your take on your hero, Ralph Nader calling Obama a war criminal? Do you agree with him?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 26th, 2012
4:02 pm

A quote from today’s occupy movement in Spain:

VICTORIA: [translated] Because banking is a business where sometimes you make money and other times you lose some, when they have profit, they don’t redistribute, they just distribute it upwards, nothing for the people. But when they lose money, which I don’t think they do, they just take from our pocket and put it in offshore accounts. Well, I don’t understand how, but the government bails them out.

Jerome Horwitz

September 26th, 2012
4:02 pm

Oh – nomination for FNM. Since you’re an Emmy Lou fan. How about Return of the Grevious Angel. A fantastic duet wih her and Georgia’s Gram Parsons>

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

East Cobb,

I think they would call their bills with tax cuts and no regulations for the wealthy “Helping the middle class bill”.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

sorry 700,000+ in net new jobs and since he has been president there have been 8 million more people trying to come into the workforce…..keep believing what the white house spins tom…..it’s not happening in the real world out here

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

Scout

“retiree” not “retired”

excuse me

Paul

September 26th, 2012
4:04 pm

So okay, have any of the cons admitted it’s the GOP message that’s the problem?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:05 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
3:25 pm

Fred,

Kyle is going to a wedding in China so the cons will come over here.
+++++++++++++++++++

Oh hell. You know what just occurred to me? All those cowards (well most) who stomped out of here in a poutrage and will use different handles to post. Bruno won’t. If Bruno comes back he’ll post as…….. Bruno lol.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
4:05 pm

Butch

It is Dana! Destroyed whatever you were saying, by being so ignorant. She was WH Press Secretary for a number of years.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

tbs,
no i don’t have children, hasn’t worked out quite yet and the other part is not for public consumption, but i am willing to state my belief on that…..

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

Sparring with the GOP over what percentage of revenue increases to implement and how much spending can be eliminated, is hardly a plan.

Maybe you see it that way. It all depends on what perspective you view things.

When you look at things from the point-of-view that the GOP is insistent on 0% revenue increases, it could be a win just to get them to agree to .5% increases. Every sensible economist has stated we will need a combination of spending cuts and revenue increases to get control over our debt, but one party seems fixiated on spending cuts alone as though they will cure gout. We’ve had 30 plus years of revenue cuts and spending increases, so by Boy Scout backtracking rules, we’ll need at least 30 years of revenue increases and spending cuts to get things back under control.

A PLAN, would be something in writing, that can be discussed, rewritten, and passed around for others to consider. Something that could go to a committee in the House, debated, voted on, amended, and hopefully passed and binding on at least this Congress. Something like say, Graham/Rudman or something similiar. Obama wants something that is not binding, not recorded, and something that he can fiddle with and change as he needs to.

And it seems that you see things from a very limited perspective. Maybe you should use Google and broaden your perspectives just a bit.

The President’s 2013 Budget is built around the idea that our country does best when everyone gets a fair shot, does their fair share, and plays by the same rules. We must transform our economy from one focused on speculating, spending, and borrowing to one constructed on the solid foundation of educating, innovating, and building. That begins with putting the Nation on a path to living within our means – by cutting wasteful spending, asking all Americans to shoulder their fair share, and making tough choices on some things we cannot afford, while keeping the investments we need to grow the economy and create jobs. The Budget targets scarce federal resources to the areas critical to growing the economy and restoring middle-class security: education and skills for American workers, innovation and research and development, clean energy, and infrastructure.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/

Instead of pointing at some bogus crap put together by a Republican Senator, have you actually looked at Obama’s budget plan, or did you rely on the talking mouthpieces to tell you what was in it?

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

Scout

By the way, I think you earned your retirement and other benefits, but wonder if you fit in that category that many on the right love the demonize?

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm

getalife, I need to see their definition of middle class.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm

BillyBob

Ok, no problem. When you mentioned something along the lines of “fighting”, I thought you were actually taking action, not just stating your beliefs on a blog.

As for children, in all seriousness, good luck on that front.

Don Abernethy

September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm

Micky Mouse should have been able to beat Obama with the terrible shape the country is in but it is looking more and more each day that we have a country full of stupid voters who do not have a clue what is going on and really don’t care.Are we looking for a “cool guy” or someone who can turn our economy around. What a disgrace for a President to go on TV talk shows. He is a good show man but a lousy President.

Beam me up

September 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

I do not see the debates changing anything. Obama may bore you half to death, but he doesn’t make big mistakes. Then, he will suddenly knock his opponents flat-footed with a zinger when they start thinking they can go aggro. I predict that at some point he will goad Romney into a petulant fit that will make him look even worse than he already does. It will probably be something along the lines of “People are just jealous of people like me” because that is what he believes. Also, how many statements has Mitt made that he’s later had to change his position or backtrack on?

It’s going to take something big, and outside the control of the campaign to get Romney elected. A stock market collapse would probably do it.

Even the Real Clear Politics map is deceptively optimistic for Romney because it has a pretty broad definition of what a toss-up really is. Obama has polled well ahead in Virginia for some time. That would put him over the top. The latest nonpartisan polls also give him a lead outside the margin of error in Nevada. Moreover, they are listing Pennsylvania and Michigan as “leans Obama” when the fact of the matter is that the Romney campaign has already abandoned them and Obama has a ten point lead in both.

The 47% remark was probably the nail in his coffin. The President had a considerable edge in a recent poll exclusively of NASCAR fans. That says a lot about where Mitt stands. The tax return thing isn’t going away either. Unbeknownst to most of America, when running for Governor, Mitt attacked his opponent for not releasing more of her husband’s tax returns. I believe the quote was “So, we’re just supposed to take her at her word?” His campaign asked Paul Ryan for ten years. He deliberately inflated his tax rate on the 2011 return by not taking all the deductions he could have knowing that as soon as the election is over he can file an amended return. What can he be hiding in there? It must be pretty damaging if he is willing to stake his campaign on not releasing. We already know about money in the Cayman Islands and Swiss bank accounts.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

I am pretty sure bilbob…. was a birther …but now is a transcripter….

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 26th, 2012
4:10 pm

sorry but here are two more quotes:

CAROLINA SANTOS YANEZ: [translated] I’m here today because I fought for a fair democracy here in Spain when I was young. I’m 64 today. And now I’m here fighting for what costs us so much sweat and blood here in Spain, the stability we had that now the right is taking away from us. They’re setting us back to where we were when I was a girl. It’s the same. When I was young, this was what we had: hunger. Now we’re going back to that. And it’s the right’s fault that we’re going in this direction, because they won’t touch their own salaries.
JOSE ANTONIO: [translated] I have come here today because I think we, the everyday people, have a chance to tell the politicians, the bankers, the financial system in general, and the capitalist system that we’ve had it. It can’t be that all of the weight of this crisis they’ve invented is forced onto the people and workers.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:10 pm

Beam me up

Romney may get upset over an issue and bet Obama 10k………….

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:10 pm

“You cannot cut your way to a balanced budget.”

Hogwash. Done every day by millions of Americans.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

Jerome

I figured more people know who John Shaft is. Had I said I was badder than this mofo here, Sho’Nuff, I don’t think many people would have got the joke.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

Jay’s followers – What did you folks think when the lib(Madonna) said “there is a black Muslim in the White House”. She was in D.C. at the time. Really, I’m not making it up. Pres Obama got caught in a little white lie also, he said the Fast and Furious gun program was started under Pres Bush’s watch. Fact check said that was completely untrue, it was started in 2009 under Obama’s watch. See both can tell untruths at times..

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

“You cannot cut your way to a balanced budget.”

Hogwash. Done every year by almost every state government.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm

What is your take on your hero, Ralph Nader calling Obama a war criminal? Do you agree with him?

Do you?

First off, this is not news; he has been alleging this for nearly four years.

I agreed with him then and still do.

A big part of the reason that I have for years referred to Obama as George W. Bush II.

Nader warned that the former Massachusetts governor is not to be trifled with either, calling him the greater of the two evils and that he is “basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”

LOL! Ralph Nader has the balls and intellect to say what almost no one will. And why he rocks…

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm

tbs,
fair enough, but i do have very personal experiences to back my beliefs and i am not just sitting on my hands and talking on a blog about it, i have gotten out there to help, just not in a counselor role like you mentioned

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm

East Cobb,

I think romney considers middle class makes 250k and up.

independent thinker

September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm

Love how Willard went groveling before the big dog at the Global Initiatives and tried to sound like a moderate. He all but asked Clinton to say something nice about him so Willard would get a jump in the polls. By the way any of you cons know when the Bush Global initiative is? Is that where they all get drunk and talk about how successful their foreign policy has been?

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm

Hogwash. Done every day by millions of Americans.

Oh geez… And exactly how many millions of Americans budgets are exactly like the federal budget, oh wise troll? :)

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm

Don Abernethy

September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm

Micky Mouse should have been able to beat Obama with the terrible shape the country is in but it is looking more and more each day that we have a country full of stupid voters who do not have a clue what is going on and really don’t care.Are we looking for a “cool guy” or someone who can turn our economy around. What a disgrace for a President to go on TV talk shows. He is a good show man but a lousy President.
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The percentage of idiots who listen to and believe Rush and Neal is growing smaller. There just aren’t that many of you nutcases left out there.

Maybe the “stupid voters” are the small minority in YOUR camp.

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 26th, 2012
4:13 pm

DAnnyX @ 3:44 – What a lot of people don’t remember, or try to forget, is that republicans have been planning for a long time, (google all the recent Voter Suppression Laws that have landed on the books recently), to take the 2012 election.

As a matter of fact, I’ll even go out on a limb and say that since 2005 (Karl Rove and the firing of the Judges), they’ve been trying to manipulate the outcome of ALL future US elections.

They’ve made sure that coporations are people, so that they can dump vast amounts of money into “Swiftboating” all Dem candidates.

They’ve tried to stack the local as well as federal benches with right leaning judges and have BLOCKED all efforts by President O to appoint new judges into vacant positions.

They’ve come up with the invisible “Illegal Alien Voter” to scare their followes, (who aren’t too bright), into thinking that people who are too scared to call the cops when they get robbed,are suddenly bold enough to walk up to the election booth and vote.

They’ve been plotting and planning for this complete takeover of We the People’s voting rights in order to prop up “dummy” presidents, (google Dumbya & Norquist); and “dummy” senators and congressmans (google puppets), to enforce their world order.

I’m just glad that there are some people out there who are wise to them and won’t let this happen.

At least i hope they don’t.

The future belongs to those who prepare for it today. — Malcolm X

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:14 pm

D. Abernethy — “Micky Mouse should have been able to beat Obama with the terrible shape the country is in but it is looking more and more each day that we have a country full of stupid voters who do not have a clue what is going on and really don’t care.”

Now you know how we felt in 2004. And I think you’re going to be just as disappointed as we were once Election Day is over.

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:14 pm

bro

“Oh geez… And exactly how many millions of Americans budgets are exactly like the federal budget, oh wise troll?”

sorry. see my 4:11. try again.

GT

September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

What I would like to see is this trickle down into the Congressional races. As people are getting closer to the elections they are starting to take better notes. The Tea Party is trying to distance themselves from this blood bath, but I offer here that the Tea is what is giving the GOP the rash in the first place. They scare the country like motorcycle gangs roaming the country side having their way. In the meanwhile our credit rating sinks and will more if they have their destructive ways after the election We need to rid all of them, then I venture Romney or whoever the next candidate is can get a clearer message from his heart out to the public. If this Tea Party is in the majority let them lead if not and I think their ship is sinking fast get them out of our way.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

Jerome

I figured more people know who John Shaft is. Had I said I was badder than this mofo here, Sho’Nuff, I don’t think many people would have got the joke.
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I would have called you Bruce Leroy. I posted that clip once here lol. One of my favorite movies. I love the end when the blue sht flies out of Bruce Leroys hands……..

That Black Guy

September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
Carol — ” The only difference between the Taliban and the Republicans is they don’t go out and kill people for not believing the way they do.”

I don’t know about that. We’ve seen quite a few of our conservative regulars here in the last few days aggressively advocating the enthusiastic knocking of heads overseas.
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And I’ve seen statements about heads on pikes and poisoning the water conservatives drink.

I guess the Taliban has taken over both sides.

But seriously, saying that a political party is like the Taliban in an insult to those who lost their lives at the hands of the Taliban and their families.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

fred,
just for the record, rush’s audience is growing…..liberal 101 intellectual superiority alert

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

Tom: What did you folks think when the lib(Madonna) said “there is a black Muslim in the White House”. She was in D.C. at the time. Really, I’m not making it up.

Tom, since she’s an American Citizen, she has the right to freely voice her opinion. Really! I’m not making it up.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

What did you folks think when the lib(Madonna) said “there is a black Muslim in the White House”.

What did I think?

Meh.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

btroll

It even gets done by Republican governors who take stimulus than cry about the stimulus, right?

Just Saying..

September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not
September 26th, 2012-1:38 pm
“Don’t believe the polls. They are tilted Dem by 5-12%…”

Lib, you favor Mexican or Columbian?
Oh, my bad, you’re a patriot.
Northern California Gold, or nothing…

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

“Hogwash. Done every year by almost every state government.”
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With the help of federal money. Why that sounds like redistribution.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Fred,

I have not seen Bruno or Soothsayer but he committed blog suicide over Platinum Blond.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Billybob — “no i don’t have children, hasn’t worked out quite yet”

If you’re trying for children, then sincerely I wish you and your wife good luck in that pursuit. :)

And if you’re not married, then I wish you happy hunting! :D

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

TBG

Agreed. 100%

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
4:18 pm

250K and up? My household is about 100K short. I must be a moocher.

Ol' Timer

September 26th, 2012
4:18 pm

The radical platform and direction the Tea Party has pushed the Republican Party has done what 51 years of marriage couldn’t do — made a democrat out of my life-long Republican wife. She is totally turned off with the negative anti-anti -anti-anti direction of the Republican Party.

And, Romney wears his new found conservative ideology like a Walmart suit. It just doesn’t fit a guy who’s been a moderate all of his life, but who knows he’s got to dress up in his Tommy Bahama jeans and play the ideologue if he expects to have even a chance of winning.

Romney/Ryan 2012: “If we can’t dazzle ‘em with brilliance we’ll baffle ‘em with B.S.”

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
4:18 pm

Fred or getalife – So Kyle is going to China for a wedding, great maybe I’ll get some cons help over here. Now was that China or was it Japan that only allows one child per family. If only ATL had that same policy, sorry that was insensitive of me.

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:19 pm

Bro.

Weird.

Korea, Norway, Sweden, Chile, Singapore, Peru, Switzerland and Russia (of all places) all have balanced budgets.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/economy/budget_surplus_or_deficit_2012_0.html

Dude, you lose.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:19 pm

debbiedocookoo

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm

keep trying libs.

you’re losing. at least on the facts.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm

Bro
The President’s 2013 Budget is built around the idea that our country does best when everyone gets a fair shot

Did he put any more effort into the 2013 budget than he did the 2012 one, you know the one, the Dem controlled Senate voted down 0-97. He has never had a budget approved, never had one that anyone seriously considered. Why would anyone bother to look at another version of the same shinola.

We have been something like 40 months without a budget to work from. Never before in history have we been governed by such a shoot from the hip, unprepared, unplanned, and incompetent regime.

The spending cuts never materialize, haven’t you heard. The GOP agrees to deals involving decreases in future spending and they never happen. Show us that you are serious about the spending decreases and we can put the revenue increases back on the table.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm

getalife

Have you seen josef?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

fred,
just for the record, rush’s audience is growing…..liberal 101 intellectual superiority alert
+++++++++++++++++++

Uh huh. So he says………. and anyone who doesn’t walk lockstep with the far right wing fanatical nutcases is a liberal. We get that too.

You are a sad, sad, pathetic little man.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

sorry. see my 4:11. try again.

ok. How may state budgets operate exactly like the federal budget? Zero, as most states have laws that mandate balanced budgets. To achieve that, how much have states cut services? How much did states rely on fed subsidies to meet budget shortfalls (Texas)?

Your attempt at oversimplification fails because there’s no way to bumper sticker our budget issues. Attempting to do that simply makes you look foolish.

Just Saying..

September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

“Don’t believe the polls. They are tilted Dem by 5-12%…”

Jay, do you just start laughing sometimes?

The fantasy is never enough by itself. ACTUAL NUMBERS create Gospel…

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

Madonna was using this thing called sarcasm,

She supports our President.

fair and balanced

September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

We’ll know its over when Sheldon Adelson stops pouring money into the GOP and instead starts paying his attorneys to avoid prosecution.

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:22 pm

Sad. Russians can balance their budget but Americans can’t.

Weak.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm

What did you folks think when the lib(Madonna) said “there is a black Muslim in the White House”.

I don’t pay any attention to that ho so I don’t care anymore about what she says than I do what Kim Kardashian says. I wouldn’t let my dog sniff either one of their legs. They only difference between the two is that at least Madonna has a talent, singing, that is awesome.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm

They BOTH suck:

“I could be wrong, however I believe you are a retired from the Federal government.

Are you part of those workers who the right claims have to many benefits paid for by the tax payer?”

1) You are not wrong you are correct …………. I am retired from Uncle Sam after 36 years of service (2 military and 34 federal law enforcement). As opposed to probably 98% of the federal workforce I went to work everyday putting my life on the line for this country and its citizens (not to mention my year in Nam in the USMC infantry).

2) My “pension” is as a result of work I did for this country as opposed to a “benefit” or handout for no work performed.

3) That said, should the American people choose through their elected representatives to substantially reduce my pension I will accept that as I have provided for myself by other means should that become necessary. I will not demonstrate or riot should that happen but live instead
under the rule of law.

Is there any part of the above that you find offensive or would disagree with ?

b-troll

September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm

bro 4:21

you’re behind. as always. see my 4:19. keep trying. but you already lost.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm

Both,

No, he said he took a new job at the school and would be busy.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm

rush’s audience is growing

Insane, but believable.

Even though the slut and prostitute’s sponsors have all abandoned him like he has the plague…

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:24 pm

Korea, Norway, Sweden, Chile, Singapore, Peru, Switzerland and Russia (of all places) all have balanced budgets.

And exactly how many of those are like the US? You’re comparing the most diverse country in the world against those countries, and I’m wrong? Dude, you need to come up for oxygen a bit more. Keep failing though. You’re making me laugh.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Fred,

I have not seen Bruno or Soothsayer but he committed blog suicide over Platinum Blond.
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Jay bans (in most cases) for a time period, not for life. Bruno could probably come back now. As for Sooth, did he leave too? I now realize I haven’t seen him.

What about josef? I don’t recall seeing him for a while either.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

Tom,

It is China and you have plenty of help over here now.

Just keep in mind we live in the real world here.

You just can’t make believe a different world I call la la land.

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

“Korea, Norway, Sweden, Chile, Singapore, Peru, Switzerland and Russia (of all places) all have balanced budgets.”
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Care to go check out the tax rates in those countries? Off the top of my head Norway, Sweden, & Switzerland I expect to be higher than ours and would be nice places to live. Singapore is probably rather low tax rates but nowhere I would want to live. I do not know much about tax rates in the others and other than Peru do not hold much appeal.

Billybob

September 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

fred,
it is growing nevermind the ranting…..projection, look it up

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

“If it feels a little harder to pay the bills, it might be because median household incomes have fallen 8.2 percent since President Obama took office — and continue to drop despite the official end of the recession, study shows.”

Get ready America if he gets back in ………… you ain’t seen nothin’ yet !

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:28 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
4:18 pm

Fred or getalife – So Kyle is going to China for a wedding, great maybe I’ll get some cons help over here. Now was that China or was it Japan that only allows one child per family. If only ATL had that same policy, sorry that was insensitive of me.
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In China, if a couple has an unauthorized child they crown the child. What is crowning? Why they make the mother carry the child to term. When she is giving birth to the child they wait until the head comes out and they then jab a needle of poison in the childs head murdering it on the spot.

Are you still laughing? Is your little “insensitively” still funny? Probably. I mean it’s not like they are doing that to a white kid, it’s just some dumb slope over there in China……..

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:28 pm

TBG — “And I’ve seen statements about heads on pikes and poisoning the water conservatives drink.”

Not from me. And I don’t agree with the kind of rhetoric that wishes harm or death on one’s political opponents. FWIW, I don’t consider terrorists to be *political* opponents, but then again, I don’t think that the Libya attack had the support of most Libyans. I’ve seen many photos of Libyans mourning the Ambassador’s death. Consequently, I’m down with catching the richardheads who killed him, but not with punishing Libyans in general.

“I guess the Taliban has taken over both sides.”

Perhaps it would be fair to say that the mindset behind some of their tactics is unfortunately creeping into the rhetoric of both sides of American political discourse.

“But seriously, saying that a political party is like the Taliban in an insult to those who lost their lives at the hands of the Taliban and their families.”

I think there’s a degree of religious intolerance within both the Taliban and the religious right in America, but there’s certainly no comparison of *degree.* And there are certainly conservative Americans who *don’t* agree with that kind of eliminationist rhetoric, either.

Perhaps we can agree that wishing death and/or destruction on political opponents is abhorrent and to be avoided — no matter which political party it comes from.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:29 pm

Fred:

Re: your 4:28 …….. have we found something we can agree on !!??

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:29 pm

The newt is on cnn making excuses for romney.

cnn lets him lie unchallenged.

cons call it liberal media.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:29 pm

Rafe

Are you talking about the Sen. Sessions (R) “supposed to be Obama’s” Budget vote? Don’t even start with that crap.

The spending cuts never materialize, haven’t you heard. The GOP agrees to deals involving decreases in future spending and they never happen. Show us that you are serious about the spending decreases and we can put the revenue increases back on the table.

That right there is why absolutely nothing gets done. I’m willing to bet you shake your pom-poms and cheer for that crap too. They should be done at one time, and not that if you do this then we do that crap. You sound like a grade schooler with that.

We need grown ups in DC that can think beyond that 3rd grade logic. We’ve tried this supply side stuff for 30 years plus, and as a result, we have a decade with no new job growth and currently $16 trillion in debt. When is it going to be enough?

You want to talk about a plan, well comparing having no plan to Ryan’s plan that balances the budget so far in the future that it will likely never happen, then I think doing nothing is actually less damaging to the country. You’re just like most of these people, all talk and not a single idea about what you’re actually pushing.

Jerome Horwitz

September 26th, 2012
4:30 pm

Bro – And Bruce Leroy showed that the good guy always wins in the end. Last Dragon was a great spoof of Kung Fu movies.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:30 pm

b-troll — “keep trying libs. you’re losing. at least on the facts.”

Let that thought console you as you cry yourself to sleep in November.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
4:30 pm

Bro’s 4:24

Backpedaling alert! :)

Game over. Bro lost. Try better next time.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 26th, 2012
4:31 pm

Rafe Hollister – “It is Dana! Destroyed whatever you were saying, by being so ignorant. She was WH Press Secretary for a number of years.”

My apologies. DANA was being an idiot when she railed about Harry Reids comments on Romney and his Mormon faith. Apparently not knowing that Reid is a Mormon as well. And thank you Rafe for reinforcing my suspicions regarding the ineptness of the Bush Administration.

Just Saying..

September 26th, 2012
4:31 pm

“Joe, I’m not a statistician, but calling more Democrats than republicans and asking who they plan to vote for and saying that Obama is leading is a little dishonest.”

Quick, dial 9-1-1…

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
4:31 pm

Actually, the numbers I just looked at show that the Excrement in Broadcasting Welfare King’s numbers have dropped since his depraved slut meltdown…

Either way, who cares?

The carnival barker serves a valuable role on the Republican midway…

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:32 pm

Scout

Again I mentioned that I believe your earned your pension and benefits.

With that said, I do not recall any administration categorizing or ranking who “earns” their salary, retirement and benefits (insurance, ret. plan, vacation, etc). Unless you are a contractor of some sort then I would assume those individuals are not afforded the dame plan for their efforts. Like in the civilian world, it comes mostly through pay and not as much on the “benefit” side.

If their is such a ranking, I am not aware of it.

While there certainly is waste in government, I will not state or agree that other Fed employees, who were not in “police” type work, have not earned their keep just as you did.

They serve or served a function and you served a function.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:33 pm

Scout: We agree on a lot of stuff. Just not on the talk radio bumper sticker stuff.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:33 pm

They BOTH & Fred

This is the time of the year where josef disappears for a while. September 16th was Rosh Hashanah, or the Jewish New Year. He’ll likely pop back up in a week or so. He’s taking time to reflect on things and such. Given the things one get’s exposed to on here, he might need a month of reflection.

can't hide it

September 26th, 2012
4:33 pm

Once again Jay can’t hide his excitement that a socialist leaning President/candidate may win the election.

As more and more people buy into (and are bought) a socialist US, we will lean more and more in that direction.

The model that 50% of the people pay for the other 50% simply is not sustainable. It has to stop. Our problem isn’t taxes (income), it is spending. We are spending too much money and have to elminate the entitlements. Obama has shown zero inclination to do that.

Obama is the enemy of small businessmen everywhere. As long as he is in office we will have a weak recovery and weak employment.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
4:34 pm

Getalife,

Sorry to hear the news… :-(

independent thinker

September 26th, 2012
4:34 pm

Just wait – Scalia will figure out a way for the GOP to win this election if Citizens United does not do the trick. Maybe they will claim Willard’s civil rights were violated by disclosure of that tape.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:34 pm

Jm

Singapore’s debt is over 100% of GDP.

Why is that?

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
4:35 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801@4:23 – At last an ally, 34 years of service(3 1/2 military, 30 law enforcement, large city and county). Good post, glad to be retired!

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:35 pm

TBS — “With that said, I do not recall any administration categorizing or ranking who “earns” their salary, retirement and benefits (insurance, ret. plan, vacation, etc). Unless you are a contractor of some sort then I would assume those individuals are not afforded the dame plan for their efforts. Like in the civilian world, it comes mostly through pay and not as much on the “benefit” side. If their is such a ranking, I am not aware of it.”

I’m sure that the business types here will recognize that wages/salary *and* benefits — including retirement bennies — are calculated and accounted for as Total Compensation.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:35 pm

Bro

Thanks for that info. Didn’t think about it at all until “getalife” mentioned Bruno and Sooth.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:35 pm

Michael G.

September 26th, 2012
4:36 pm

Jay,

I’ll be here. If your guy wins, I’ll congratulate you. If the guy I’m voting for wins, I look forward to the crow you will have to eat.

Drudge

September 26th, 2012
4:36 pm

Bring on the fiscal cliff!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
4:37 pm

I have not seen Bruno or Soothsayer but he committed blog suicide over Platinum Blond.

Bruno pulled a nutty after he got severely mocked for spiking the ball too soon on the eve of the SCOTUS ruling on the health care act. All of that guff about his girlfriend was a face saving stunt.

Sooth probably came down from N.Ga. to watch the PGA at Eastlake, which is why we haven’t heard from him for a while — but that’s merely a guess.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:37 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF) :

Congrats !!!

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 26th, 2012
4:37 pm

Drudge – “Bring on the fiscal cliff!”

Why, are the polls indicating a Romney victory?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:38 pm

Fred:

It’s a start !

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:38 pm

JHM

I’m sure there are categories of job types and descriptions, etc.

I’m referring to who “earns” their retirement and insurance based on what department they worked in or job they did.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:38 pm

jm

Backpeddling my ass. You show me where the US will end up if we cut current spending to match current revenues. We’d all be in bread lines. As much as people hate to think about it, the private sector benefits from much of the fed dollars spent. It might come as grocery sales for food stamps, jobs building unnecessary engines for unnecessary fighter planes, or paying $150,000 a year for someone to cook meals in Afghanistan instead of having an E-4 do the same for much cheaper.

That talk about balanced budgets don’t mean jack until one actually adresses the actual revenues needed to run this government. As we’ve been in full credit mode for 30 plus years, people, such as yourself, have nary the slightest clue about the true amount of revenues we really need. You’d rather surround yourself in the fantasy that we could cut spending and things would magically turn out ok. You fail to forget that when you cut that spending, you also cut someone’s job, and likely more than a few indirectly.

lynnie gal

September 26th, 2012
4:38 pm

A move further to the right for Republicans? How can you get further to the right than these guys? The only thing further right than these guys is Fascism, and what Republicans are now is Fascism-Lite.

DebbieDoRight - The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists...

September 26th, 2012
4:39 pm

Paul: So okay, have any of the cons admitted it’s the GOP message that’s the problem?

Ha! — they’d rather, (in order):

Wear gas drawers in hell.

Tape pork chops all over their naked body and jump into a hungry lion’s den.

Fornicate with the Dem’s mascot Donkey.

Openly admit that (some of them) are gay.

Wake up next to Hillary Clinton and kiss her in her morning breath mouth.

Say, with absolute sincerity, that Obama is NOT a marxist.

So, to answer your question – No.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
4:39 pm

And Josef has been taking his annual blog break for the High Holy Days, which means he may return tomorrow.

cc

September 26th, 2012
4:40 pm

“have you actually looked at Obama’s budget plan, or did you rely on the talking mouthpieces to tell you what was in it?”

It must have been a fantastic plan . . . since most of the dims voted against it, too.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
4:41 pm

Grab your pacifiers Libs, new lineup at WSB.

Boortz, Limbaugh, Hannity beginning 1 Oct.

Obama bashing 9 to 6, and they still will not be able to cover all the futility, with just 9 hours to do so.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:42 pm

The BOTH suck:

A couple of points:

1) Part of my duties over the years involved investigations of other federal agencies. All I can say is the waste, fraud and abuse I observed over the years is staggering. There is no doubt in my mind that “at least” 20-25%” of the federal (and probably state) workforce could be sent home and if the rest worked their full eight hour day (mine were almost always 12 to 16) the American taxpayer wouldn’t miss a thing.

2) Congress sets the pay and benefits for federal work (law enforcement and otherwise). They can set it high …………… they can set it low ………….. and the workforce will still be there. It’s the “quality” of that workforce that you have to deal with and in law enforcement that is particulary crucial.

Translation: “You get what you pay for.”

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:43 pm

TBS — “I’m referring to who “earns” their retirement and insurance based on what department they worked in or job they did.”

I know. I think I made my point rather clumsily, so I’ll try again.

Economic conservatives and libertarians generally seem to argue that they should be able to pay whatever pay scale and benefit schedule they can get employees to agree to. Okay, fine and good. Having then *mutually agreed* to the pay and benefit package — which will likely include retirement benefits — why then are conservatives griping about leeches and ‘takers’ and the like? If the pay and benefit package was freely agreed to by both sides, then doesn’t management bear a portion of the blame for *agreeing* to provide such benefits?

Full disclosure: both my grandfathers were coal-mining United Mine Workers men, and my maternal grandfather retired from the job.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
4:43 pm

Fred – The one child per family was meant to be somewhat humerous, you guys need a laugh or smile ocassionally. Be more like Obama, have fun, laugh, smile. You guys get so serious and stressed, it’s a wonder some of you don’t go and off yourself.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:44 pm

Thanks Jay.

Forgot about that.

“I’ve been across this country. My heart aches for the people I’ve seen,” romney.

How will romney get the gop to vote to help the middle class?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:44 pm

Excuse me: “particularly”

Orange12

September 26th, 2012
4:44 pm

The same old, same old. Jay is now using Chicago style BS scare tactics meaning. “i’m telling you, your candidate is losing. You might as well stay at home and not vote at all. You know how high gas is. Save your gas. Your vote isn’t going to matter.” Then you have Obama’s left nut want to be Getalife spreading the same baseless not supported by facts manure.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/26/household-income-down-82-percent-since-obama-took-office-study-shows/

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:44 pm

R. Hollister — “Grab your pacifiers Libs, new lineup at WSB.”

If The Kimmer were still working at WGST, he’d have to find a new name for ol’ We Suck & Blither. :D

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
4:45 pm

Never listened to WSB before. Not going to now. But there must be some mistake, where is Olberman & Madow?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:45 pm

Tom,

Did you just tell us to be like our President?

Great advice.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
4:43 pm

Fred – The one child per family was meant to be somewhat humerous, you guys need a laugh or smile ocassionally. Be more like Obama, have fun, laugh, smile. You guys get so serious and stressed, it’s a wonder some of you don’t go and off yourself.
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Yeah I always find murdering babies to be a stress reliever. I sometimes do 4 or five a day………

DebbieDoRight - You Show Me A Capitalist & I'll Show You A Bloodsucker...

September 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

The carnival barker serves a valuable role on the Republican midway…

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jm

September 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

Tbs.

Topic is deficits. Keep up.

St Simons

September 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

well, they’ll still be masters at mumbling at the am radio all day

even if they lose the senate & house

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

“why then are conservatives griping about leeches and ‘takers’ and the like?”

In my opinion they are talking about those who didn’t/don’t work ……… entitlements ………. a substantial portion of which (not all of course) are undeserved (laziness) and even fruadulent.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
4:47 pm

So ole Clark Howard is now off the air?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:47 pm

Fred:

Are you a doctor ?

USMC

September 26th, 2012
4:48 pm

“A move further to the right for Republicans? How can you get further to the right than these guys? The only thing further right than these guys is Fascism, and what Republicans are now is Fascism-Lite.”–Lynnie gal

Okay Lynnie gal, come in off the ledge and we can all talk about this… breath deeply… It will be okay. :-)

(sounds like Lynnie gal listens to too much Liberal Hate Talk Radio: Rachel Madcow, Keith Olbermann, Herr Lawrence O’Donnell and the other usual Hooligans)

That Black Guy

September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:49 pm
he’ll toss in a 76th grade crotch joke for change
____________________________________
Daymn Fred, how long were you in school?

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

“Grab your pacifiers Libs, new lineup at WSB.”

As much whining as you do at Wingfields, you need to stop worrying about others and get your mommy to give you your pacify.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

Radio is for music.

It will make you happier like Tom.

cc

September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

“cnn lets him lie unchallenged.”

Yes, all of Obama’s lies have gone unchallenged . . .

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
4:50 pm

Yeah, my guess is either that jo is being one of those “real” Jews that crier is always going on about or he is in Springfield, Illinois at the Abraham Lincoln Library and Museum…

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:50 pm

TBG

Read that and let it go………

Fred is surely edumacted………………..

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
4:51 pm

“I believe that it was you who made the point that misogyny mountain is a higher hill to climb”

I don’t know about Stands, but I certainly said that

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

“Obama bashing 9 to 6, and they still will not be able to cover all the futility, with just 9 hours to do so.”

Seeing that all three of these entertainers are already on the radio in Atlanta, what is your point?

Is it going to impact the election?

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

0311 — “In my opinion they are talking about those who didn’t/don’t work ……… entitlements ………. a substantial portion of which (not all of course) are undeserved (laziness) and even fruadulent.”

Okay, fair enough.

But how would they *know,* in the case of any specific individual, whether fraud or laziness was involved? It seems to me that there’s a kind of guilt-by-association working in the conservative mind whereby ‘public benefits’ *automatically* equals laziness. And it wasn’t that long ago that ‘brown skin + Hispanic surname’ *automatically* equaled undocumented alien.

Seriously, does it actually *matter* to cons whether a given individual is on the up-and-up with this sort of thing, or does some kind of automatic condemnation mechanism kick in?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

cc,

“Yes, all of Obama’s lies have gone unchallenged . . .”

Like he said at the UN, he is attacked daily and is for it.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

Poor Getalife…. I really feel badly for you. :-)

DebbieDoRight - You Show Me A Capitalist & I'll Show You A Bloodsucker...

September 26th, 2012
4:54 pm

JHM @ 4:43 – Maybe as employees we just need to say “you promise that compensation that I will never see so i am going to promise you this level of work from me that you won’t actually get.

I stole that quote from Finn. He wasn’t using it anyway……. :wink:

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:54 pm

76th grade???

Dayum!! I missed that one…

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

Scout

Actually, I was referring to the numerous times bloggers have mentioned the salaries and benefits of Fed workers.

That is why I asked, were you part of those “workers” that they demean?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

getalife is right. Hate filled static is not good for con’s blood pressure and eroding mental health.

But what the hell, if they live long enough, they’ll all be on Obamney care anyway…

Welcome to the Occupation

September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm

Been out for a while.

Hi all you crazy loons! How you doin!

Mark in mid-town

September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm

Jay Bookman writes: “The Bush administration claimed absolute knowledge of WMD, right down to the places in which it was stored. When the UN sent inspectors into those sites pre-war and found nothing, and found nothing, and found nothing … we invaded anyway.”
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The Bush Administration obviously did not trust Saddam Hussein, and neither did any prominent Democrat either. The Bush Administration relied upon the overwhelming consensus opinion of the various arms of the intelligence community. That overwhelming consensus opinion was largely not from political arms of the intelligence community, but rather it was accumulated largely from the institutional apparatus of the intelligence community which included career professionals put in place under Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush and Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter before. But more of the apparatus in their prime years had attained their rank during the 8 years of Clinton than under anyone else. It was also under Bill Clinton’s presidency that promoting regime change in Iran was not only a foreign policy goal, it actually became the law of the country when President Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act in October of 1998.

Prominent Democrats such as Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and countless others did not so much rely upon what the Bush Administration was telling them. These such prominent Democrats had their own connections within the intelligence community who were telling them the same things the Bush Administration was saying. Let’s not forget that President G. W. Bush had more congressional support for taking on Saddam than did the first President Bush back in 1990/1991. The reason was not that G.W. Bush had lied to them, rather it was because these people knew very well that what Bush Administration was saying was entirely consistent with what prominent Democrats were being told as well from their connections within the intelligence community, connections which greatly pre-dated George W. Bush becoming president in 2001.

The overwhelming consensus opinion wasn’t 100% as it never is, but it was as overwhelming a consensus opinion from the intelligence community as we’ve probably had regarding the intentions of any middle eastern leader in modern times. Part of the left’s rewriting of history is how Bush used 9/11 as an excuse to rush into war with Iraq because it’s what they always intended. But 9/11 happened in 2001. President Bush didn’t end up initiating the war with Iraq until March of 2003, a full 1.5 yrs after 9/11/2001. In other words the march to war was cautious and deliberative. It was not rushed, nor pursued for politically opportunistic reasons. It was because they truly thought it was necessarily and Bush certainly risked his chances of re-election by pursuing it.

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
4:58 pm

So, now Bookman and the liberal sycophants would have us believe that it is all over and Republicans need not go to the polls and vote in November. They said that about Carter in 1980 when he was “up” by 32 points over Reagan. Reagan went ahead and took all but 6 states. Rasmussen, along with Gallup, has been the only really reliable poll since this began. He samples likely voters, not registered voters. Everyone but Rasmussen samples far more Democrats than Republicans, sometimes as much as 10% more. In at least three polls favoring Bozo, they only sampled 1% of Independents although Independents make up nearly one third of the electorate. To say that these polls are unrealistic is an understatement. One of the reason why the media does this is to try to influence early voters. Most people want to vote for a winner especially if he is an incumbent. Then they see that “Romney doesn’t have a prayer” and that influences their choice. Bozo and the Demos know this. So does the media. The media is so much in the hip pocket of the Demos that they don’t deserve to be called the media anymore…… just an extension of the Democratic National Committee. That might make lots of liberals happy for now but, we, as a nation, will pay the price for this in the long run. Rasmussen and Gallup have the race dead even. Once again, Romney 320 electoral votes….. Bozo 218. Count on it.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
4:59 pm

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
5:00 pm

Brosephus

Should be a workable solution to do both spending and revenue at once and get it over with. But, if you say yes, when the bully asks for your lunch money, and he still knocks you down, before leaving with your money, most folks wise up. If they decide they are too small to fight back, they at least learn to keep their money or their self respect, one or the other.

How many times does the GOP lose their revenue and their self respect, by agreeing with something the Dems have no intention of honoring?

You are right, the Ryan plan to balance the budget, in what 28 years, is a joke, although the Dems claim it is EXTREME.

Ryan has a poor plan, but it is what he thinks he might have a chance to pass. Doubtful as Dems do not want a balanced budget, they think it restrains government too much, go figure. Barry has no plan and nothing on the horizon.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
5:01 pm

Someone answer this for me – If Pres Obama is re-elected and the Repubs keep control of the House, I do not think any thing positive will happen for either side. Does it make that big of a difference which party wins control of the Senate. I hear it can go either way?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:02 pm

Corporation Mitt tries yet another new tactic – the compassionate conservative.

“I’ve been across this country. My heart aches for the people I’ve seen,”

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:02 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
4:47 pm

Fred:

Are you a doctor ?
++++++++++++++++++++

nope. But i know about crowning.

Obama arrogance

September 26th, 2012
5:03 pm

Thank you Class of 98 for referencing the Scott Walker ELECTION. After all, this column is about an ELECTION but the ‘journalist’ who wrote it chooses to instead reference Bush and the Iraq war, followed by CNN. Who needs objectivity? LOL…

getalife

September 26th, 2012
5:03 pm

“But what the hell, if they live long enough, they’ll all be on Obamney care anyway…”

Leaving their kids no way to make a decent living because the wealthy controls most of the wealth means their kids can’t take care of them when they get older.

Cutting Medicare means the government can’t do it too so they are on the streets.

Bad karma man.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:04 pm

M. in mid-town — “The Bush Administration obviously did not trust Saddam Hussein, and neither did any prominent Democrat either. The Bush Administration relied upon the overwhelming consensus opinion of the various arms of the intelligence community.”

Irrelevant.

Believing Iraq had WMD did not *compel* us to invade, particularly since we claimed to be operating under the aegis of UN Resolutions. Given than UN weapons inspectors were working in the country at the time President Bush told them to GTFO before we got to work, it’s pretty clear that our invasion worked at cross purposes to the UN resolutions we purported to be upholding.

And FWIW, there *was* no UNR justifying our invasion. The applicable UNRs *spelled out* next steps in the event of Saddam Hussein’s continued recalcitrance — and they *definitely* didn’t match up with what we did.

Rafe Hollister

September 26th, 2012
5:04 pm

Kayaker

The most recent polls, I read, have more Dems represented than even turned out in 2008. How can that be if they are actually trying to get it right. No one is expecting the Dem turnout to approach 2008, probably more like 2010 or something totally different.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:05 pm

That Black Guy

September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
1:49 pm
Daymn Fred, how long were you in school?
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LOL It only SEEMED like that long. (I’m hit and miss as I let the dishes I didn’t wash today “marinate” in water lol.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:06 pm

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
4:54 pm

76th grade???

Dayum!! I missed that one…
++++++++++++++++++++

I done tole you I went through school faster than anyone else…….

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

Fred@4:46 – Now that is the Fred I remember! You were being too nice on earlier postings, I got confused.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

“Why”–Getalife

Well, first of all your New Orleans Saints are GOOSE EGG and 3.
And now after watching the Bengal Tigers limp out of Auburn last week end. Your LSU Tigers aren’t going to make the trip to Atlanta this year to face the Jawja Bulldogs for the SEC Title!
(and don’t forget Comrade Obama losing the election n November!)

So I just wanted to let you know that I was thinking of you.
We can still have Beers and Cigars, etc. :-)

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

K71 — “So, now Bookman and the liberal sycophants would have us believe that it is all over and Republicans need not go to the polls and vote in November.”

Nah. I think the general feeling among us is that it’s over whether you go vote *or not.*

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
5:08 pm

Will the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! be poll watching on election night?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:08 pm

Once again, Romney 320 electoral votes….. Bozo 218. Count on it.

OK.

New polls in three swing states indicate President Barack Obama exceeding 50% support among likely voters and holding leads of nine to 12 points over Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Fueling those numbers, the four polls suggest that Romney has lost his edge on the economy, an issue on which the challenger has based his campaign.

The new surveys come one day after another batch of battleground state polls also suggested Obama with the advantage.

The fresh batch of polls in Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania, which together account for 67 electoral votes, were released by Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times and Franklin and Marshall College.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:08 pm

Obama arrogance

September 26th, 2012
5:03 pm

Thank you Class of 98 for referencing the Scott Walker ELECTION. After all, this column is about an ELECTION but the ‘journalist’ who wrote it chooses to instead reference Bush and the Iraq war, followed by CNN. Who needs objectivity? LOL…
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

And here we have yet ANOTHER brainiac who lacks the wits to know what an OPINION blog is.

See? THESE are the types that listen to talk radio and vote republican. Thank GOD I have a brain and am not like them……

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
5:09 pm

Getalife – Obama does have fun, you see it in his smile every day. He is a good man, loves his family but I just do not completely agree with his policies. Actually I feel the same about Romney.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:09 pm

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

Fred@4:46 – Now that is the Fred I remember! You were being too nice on earlier postings, I got confused.
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Gotta keep you on your toes. :twisted:

East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)

September 26th, 2012
5:10 pm

Someone answer this for me……

Tom, IMHO I would be surprised if that were to happen. The country is so divided right now that most folks will vote straight ticket. So whoever wins the Presidency, that party will probably get a sufficient coattail effect to win down ticket races as well. In which case the losing side will have some serious inner reflecting to do.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:12 pm

Will the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! be poll watching on election night?

They better not be until I’ve finished washing the dishes and cooking supper so I can get firsties on the thread and get a hat trick for the day……..

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:12 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

I hear you but if you investigated it as I did over the years you would personally realize just how high the “laziness” and “fraud” percentages are.

There are many, many needy persons out there and the ones who don’t derserve it are actually taking money out of their pockets. It really is a disgrace. That’s all I mean and that’s all I believe most conservatives mean.

P.S.

And I hate to say it, but the Veterans Administration is one of the worst for a high percentage of undeserved benefits and outright fraud.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:12 pm

I suspect that in response to the GOP’s War on Women Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights that America’s female voters are NOT going to stay home this fall.

You go, girls!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:13 pm

Fred:

Roger that and it happens in the U.S. everyday (just a different method of execution).

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

…but the Veterans Administration is one of the worst for a high percentage of undeserved benefits and outright fraud.

Got any links to support that claim?

Didn’t think so…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

Fred:

You said you didn’t like “bumper stickers” but how about this one?

“Equal Rights for Unborn Women”

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
5:15 pm

rafe, 5:04,

Most of the “sampling” by these polls was to echo exit polls in 2004 and 2008 which were notoriously inaccurate. Then when it came to sampling 2010, they entirely ignored the Republican shellacing that the Demos received. If Bozo is so far ahead in Ohio, why is he there campaigning and spending all of that money? The poll in Pennsylvania shows Bozo ahead by 11%. That is exactly how many more, as a percentage, of Democrats that were sampled in the poll than Republicans. If not for that, they would be dead even as Rasmussen suggests. This media blitz on how well Bozo is doing is a disservice to the electorate and a blotch on their credibility from which they will never recover. Ever wonder why only about 25% of the people think that the media is a reliable source of information? Before long, they will be as bad as our Congress.

bman

September 26th, 2012
5:15 pm

Obama has an 80% chance of winning? I hope reading that doesn’t make you too excited on election night. Ever went to bed hearing there’s an 80% chance of snow then wake up & the only thing you see white is you wife scratching her large buttocks?

If Romney loses, I’m hoping for a snowstorm excuse.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

Absent breaking news, the cry of SCV will not produce the desired response this evening.

That is all.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

Yeah, my guess is either that jo is being one of those “real” Jews that crier is always going on about or he is in Springfield, Illinois at the Abraham Lincoln Library and Museum…

Well, I see what josef has to say about Abraham Lincoln, so you can rule Springfield IL out. He’s just a little nastier to Lincoln than he is to me.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

0311 — “I hear you but if you investigated it as I did over the years you would personally realize just how high the “laziness” and “fraud” percentages are.”

Okay, I’m willing to hear you out. Tell me what you know. But please bear in mind that I’m interested in the *percentages* — which *you* just cited.

“There are many, many needy persons out there and the ones who don’t derserve it are actually taking money out of their pockets. It really is a disgrace. That’s all I mean and that’s all I believe most conservatives mean.”

If they haven’t researched it as you have, then I have a hard time believing that they’re coming from the same place as you are.

“And I hate to say it, but the Veterans Administration is one of the worst for a high percentage of undeserved benefits and outright fraud.”

FWIW, I understand that I’m a rather rare animal — a disabled veteran who *doesn’t* draw a pension. And yes, my disability is service-connected.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

…but the Veterans Administration is one of the worst for a high percentage of undeserved benefits and outright fraud.

Got any links to support that claim?

Didn’t think so…
+++++++++++++++++++

It shouldn’t take much of a google Jamvet. The VA has some ungodly amount of property that they pay 10’s if not 100’s of millions to “maintain” that they don’t use. The VA has always been pretty corrupt. Kind of like Chicago politics……..

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:17 pm

JamVet:

Personal experience investigating fraud in V.A. benefits (including families of deceased veterans still receiving their benefits, fake veterans and veterans who did not serve as they stated receiving benefits ………. just to name a few areas.). All of those take money right out of the pockets of indigent veterans (especially those wounded and still suffering) who deserve better.

Welcome to the Occupation

September 26th, 2012
5:17 pm

I’m Chris Christie and I’ve hijacked the account of WTO.

How ya doin?

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:17 pm

Jay

September 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

Absent breaking news, the cry of SCV will not produce the desired response this evening.

That is all.
++++++++++++++++

Damn. that means I have to go wash the f’ing dishes. It was HER that broke the damn dishwasher so why am I having to wash the dishes?

pogo

September 26th, 2012
5:17 pm

Today, the NYT’s and a couple of other polls proclaim “Game Over, Obama wins on 11/6″. That means that the entitlement crowd won’t even have to show up to vote in November and since they are so lazy and government dependent they probably won’t. The Stern interview was very interesting. You libs must be very proud of your “base”. Just another nail into the coffin of this country and its children.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:18 pm

President Barack Obama’s campaign is calling GOP nominee Mitt Romney a hypocrite when it comes to China in a new web video released Wednesday.

The narrator in the video says while the Republican candidate talks tough on China for “stealing American ideas and technology” on the campaign stump, in the past Romney did not hesitate to make money off Chinese companies.

“Romney invested in China’s version of YouTube–a haven for stealing American videos,” says the narrator in the 30-second video. “Romney’s even invested in a Chinese electronics company being sued by Microsoft for pirating its software.”

The video concludes: “If Romney really wanted China to stop stealing why would he send them his money?”

Unfit to lead.

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:18 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

Fred:

You said you didn’t like “bumper stickers” but how about this one?

“Equal Rights for Unborn Women”
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Naw. I don’t like it. How about ” She (or he) is not a choice, she’s your child.”

pogo

September 26th, 2012
5:19 pm

And Jay is not a journalist. He is a hack.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
5:19 pm

I suspect that in response to the GOP’s War on Women Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights that America’s female voters are NOT going to stay home this fall.

You go, girls!

Ironic if that also happens to play a significant role in the margin of victory in the election also, particularly down ticket elections.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
5:20 pm

Now if anyone in the ATL area sees Black Panthers(like the last Pres election) standing in doorway of election location intimidating potential voters, they are to contact Fred, Jamvet, getalife, 1811, USMC, Joe Mama or myself. We will stand next to those thugs, hopefully eliminating the influence factor! Agreed? Time for dinner!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:20 pm

JamVet @ 5:14

It’s all here if you want to do the research and it’s only the tip of the iceberg. Like most IG’s, they only have enough agents to just touch the surface:

http://www.va.gov/oig/publications/semiannual-reports.asp

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

” It was HER that broke the damn dishwasher so why am I having to wash the dishes?”

It’s the fault of the liberal media?

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

September 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

I almost forgot, USA, USA, USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

pogo

Link or is that your brainwashed talk radio mind regurgitating what you were told?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

Fred @ 5:18

I like it.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:22 pm

K71 — “If Bozo is so far ahead in Ohio, why is he there campaigning and spending all of that money?”

When the Braves are four or five runs ahead, do they stop playing ball?

“The poll in Pennsylvania shows Bozo ahead by 11%. That is exactly how many more, as a percentage, of Democrats that were sampled in the poll than Republicans.”

And another non-statistician admits it.

If you think you can explain to me — with a complete mathematical proof — why what you’re saying is correct, I’m all ears. And FWIW, saying “everybody knows” isn’t proof.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:23 pm

Your “personal experience” is not verifiable. And not useful.

I’m asking for some empirical, corroboratable (is that a real word?) evidence, not stories.

I suspect that the rate of fraud and abuse in the VA is very, very low. But I would never assert that as a fact unless I had done some basic research first. (hint. hint.)

USMC

September 26th, 2012
5:24 pm

“And Jay is not a journalist. He is a hack.”–pogo

Jay just believes what the Party Political Operatives tell him to believe.

Don’t be so hard on him. He actually seems like a pretty nice guy; a bit out of touch is all.

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
5:25 pm

JamVet, 5:08,

Did you take a good look at who they sampled? The mix was as much as 11% more Demos than Repubs and they only sampled 1% of independents. With that kind of bias, you can make any poll look good for whomever you please. If you eliminate these variables and include at least a third of your sampling as independents as they should have, Bozo would be as much as 5 or more points behind. Perhaps more. It also suggests, by only sampling elections in 2004 and 2008 that the turnout for each candidate will be the same. Look at 2010. And they didn’t even include that election in their sampling. If you sample a fair mix of the likely voters and include exit poll data in 2010, you get a far better prediction of a likely result.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:26 pm

Joe Hussein Mama:

1) May I recommend “Stolen Valor” by Burkett. A good portion of that book documents not just the fraudulent wearing of ribbons, etc. but the massive benefit fraud at the V.A.

2) “FWIW, I understand that I’m a rather rare animal — a disabled veteran who *doesn’t* draw a pension. And yes, my disability is service-connected.”

God bless you ……….. if you deserve it you should apply for those benefits. I also probably could regarding exposure to agent orange but choose not to.

Paul

September 26th, 2012
5:26 pm

b-troll

[[“You cannot cut your way to a balanced budget.”

Hogwash. Done every day by millions of Americans.]]

Well, you’ve been carrying on for some time now in the finest con tradition, ridiculing others but offering absolutely nothing of substance on the subject.

So… FY2013. No tax increases. Balance the budget. Tell us how it’s done.

Time to put up.

_____________________________________________________________

HI DebbieDoRight!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I figured the answer would be ‘no’ but you sure have a fun and eloquent way of putting it!

getalife

September 26th, 2012
5:26 pm

USMC,

Ouch. That hurt :(

Not only did the Braves make the playoffs last night, the Falcons and the Bulldogs are looking good too.

A good time to be an Atlanta sports fan.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:26 pm

So tell me, what is the percentage of abuse/fraud listed in those reports?

You have NO clue, do you?

You have not cracked the very first one.

You are just spitballing it.

It’s OK.

It is what I expect from you.

Talking the talk, but not…

Jay

September 26th, 2012
5:27 pm

And Jay is not a journalist. He is a hack.

I didn’t know you had seen me on the golf course….

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:28 pm

Rafe

It HAS to be a workable solution, otherwise America gets screwed. The way things go now is that one party is the bully and takes the lunch money. When elections switch majorities, the same things happens with the parties reversed. How many times do we have to go through this until we realize that doing the same thing and expecting different results is pure idiocy?

How many times does the GOP lose their revenue and their self respect, by agreeing with something the Dems have no intention of honoring?

The same number of times that the Dems do. They do the same thing to each other over and over.

If I had any sway over our budget situation, I would do a full, audit of the entire government from head to toe. Once the areas of duplicity could be eliminated, I’d work on tamping down fraud. After we get to a reasonable baseline, I would give the parties one chance every 10 years to adjust taxes or spending outside of what would be considered normal increases/decreases.

The reason being, the tax policies we enacted 5-10 years ago are the policies that are affecting us now. We’ve dug ourselves into a deep fiscal hole, and the only way we’re going to get out of it is if we quit the destructive behavior. Cutting revenues to address deficits is assinine logic, regardless to how one tries to explain it.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:28 pm

71, where did you find that info?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 26th, 2012
5:31 pm

Well, it ain’t wine, women and song, but at least it’s PBR and the missus here at the trailer. But something is missing—Andy Williams, a guy God give all the voice to while a couple million other men were left with just a croak or two. I can’t stand to wait for FNM, and seeing as how it’s that time of year, here’s a good one nobody will be hearing live again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHF8CX3i4SY

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:31 pm

Ever went to bed hearing there’s an 80% chance of snow then wake up & the only thing you see white is you wife scratching her large buttocks?

Can’t say that I’ve had that experience. If I wake up and see some white buttocks, then something has gone horribly wrong. :)

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:32 pm

Last week President Obama designated Colorado’s Chimney Rock as a national monument, protecting this amazing wild place for future generations. This designation ensures long-term protection of a place that is spiritually, ecologically, and culturally significant and remains of great importance to modern Pueblo Indians.

The designation was made under the Antiquities Act with bi-partisan support from Colorado officials, the Native American community, local businesses and other stakeholders.

Thank you, Mr. President and to all involved

http://www.oldwestnewwest.com/20120925691/travel/preservation/colorados-chimney-rock-named-national-monument-by-president-obama.html.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
5:33 pm

“Ouch. That hurt :(
Not only did the Braves make the playoffs last night, the Falcons and the Bulldogs are looking good too. A good time to be an Atlanta sports fan.”–Getalife

You know I’m just “messin” with you.
Your Tigers have proven themselves plenty of times in the last few years, etc.
Now it is time for the Dawgs to step up and prove themselves. (talk is cheap)
I went to the Braves last night. What an incredible finish. I am still hoarse today.

Anyway, I still have Gumbo, Cigars, Beer, and college football on the brain.
I guess it is that time of year!

Geax Dawgs! :-)

A Simple Man

September 26th, 2012
5:33 pm

I’m glad to see Jay stayed away from saying the Republican voters would resort to violence or destruction of property. That’s more of an Occupy Wallstreet thing, but since the Right usually gets accused of it I was glad to see it was avoided this time.

Joseph

September 26th, 2012
5:34 pm

Well Jay reality certainly did sink in when Republicans had a historic victory in 2010 while demolishing many liberal democrats in moderate to conservative area’s of the country. The same will happen this year most likely. Sure dems will gain at best 5 to 10 seats in the house but Republicans will close in on retaking the Senate. If not this year certainly in 2014 the Senate will be in Repub hands. I’m stunned that dems are so confidant that Obama will be re-elected when most sane people agree he’s done a horrible job. Keep your head up Jay. When the defeat comes down in November don’t say I didn’t tell you….

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:35 pm

K71 — “Did you take a good look at who they sampled? The mix was as much as 11% more Demos than Repubs and they only sampled 1% of independents. With that kind of bias, you can make any poll look good for whomever you please.”

Are you asserting selection bias in the survey instrument design?

Because if your survey population is properly randomized, variances in demographic groups outside of their actual representation in the broader pool of possible respondents *doesn’t matter.*

Would you be upset if poor people were under-represented in the survey? Why or why not? How about women? Shouldn’t there be around 52% female respondents, to accurately equal their distribution in the US population? How about education? Are you sure that the polls you like are accurately reflecting the level of education in the US electorate as a whole?

The fact of the matter is that this ‘oversampling’ argument is completely irrelevant, and people who have actually *done* statistics for a living know that. OTOH, people who aren’t quite so informed buy right into it.

“If you eliminate these variables and include at least a third of your sampling as independents as they should have, Bozo would be as much as 5 or more points behind.”

Really? Okay, show your math. How do you calculate that?

“Perhaps more.”

Uh huh. You’re certain the numbers are off, but you can’t say why or by how much. :roll:

“It also suggests, by only sampling elections in 2004 and 2008 that the turnout for each candidate will be the same.”

Red herring. There is no way on earth to accurately predict Election Day turnout unless you can travel forward in time. You’re buying Rasmussen’s argument, which is simply his justification for playing with his numbers to make conservative candidates look like they’re doing better than they actually are.

“Look at 2010. And they didn’t even include that election in their sampling. If you sample a fair mix of the likely voters and include exit poll data in 2010, you get a far better prediction of a likely result.”

Why would you consider 2010 data in a poll about the 2012 elections? That’s like using your February bank statement to balance your checkbook in September. (laughing) :D

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:36 pm

JHM: FWIW, I understand that I’m a rather rare animal — a disabled veteran who *doesn’t* draw a pension. And yes, my disability is service-connected.

Rare indeed. I had an uncle that passed a few years ago who was a Vietnam vet who served in the Marines. When going through his paperwork, we found that he didn’t sign up or take a single penny worth of benefits of any kind from the VA. He worked for a local manufacturing plant at home and started and ran his own successful business before he died.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:36 pm

0311 — “1) May I recommend “Stolen Valor” by Burkett. A good portion of that book documents not just the fraudulent wearing of ribbons, etc. but the massive benefit fraud at the V.A.”

I’ll look into it, but I’m still interested in percentages.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm

Simple man,

If there is no struggle, there is no progress.

Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.

The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.

Men may not get all they pay for in this world; but they must pay for all they get. If we ever get free from all the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and, if needs be, by our lives, and the lives of others. ~Frederick Douglass, 1857

USMC

September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm

“I didn’t know you had seen me on the golf course….”–JAY

LOL! I don’t exactly see Jay on a Golf course. That’s too Bourgeoisie for Jay.
Well then again, I COULD see Jay ‘playing’ at Candler Park with his Flannel shirt off and a six patch of Pabst in the Cooler!
Go Bookman, FORE! :-)

getalife

September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm

I don’t think looking for little golf balls in the woods or in the water is a sport.

More like hunting I guess.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm

“When the defeat comes down in November don’t say I didn’t tell you….”

Don’t play Casper the Ghost when it doesn’t come down your way………

just saying

Fred ™

September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:31 pm
Can’t say that I’ve had that experience. If I wake up and see some white buttocks, then something has gone horribly wrong. :)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ESPECIALLY if I come home early and catch you in my bed………….

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:38 pm

USMC

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only shade of red that will see victory in the SEC championship game will be Crimson. When LSU is unable to do it, the Tide is more than able to represent the West. ;)

Ray Tardinski

September 26th, 2012
5:38 pm

New poll just out from Europe – 87 percent of Europeans polled would vote for Barry. In other news, the EU is on the brink of collapse due to years of socialists programs and unchecked spending. Hmmmm, maybe we could learn something and draw a correlation- nah, that would require thinking.

Paul

September 26th, 2012
5:39 pm

““Equal Rights for Unborn Women””

Followed by a really long bumper sticker

“Unless there’s a serious medical condition, then Scout gets to kill the mother and claim self defense.”

Paul

September 26th, 2012
5:40 pm

Ray

Yeah, the Europeans overwhelmingly would want Obama steering them out of the mess they’re in.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:40 pm

Brosephus — “Rare indeed. I had an uncle that passed a few years ago who was a Vietnam vet who served in the Marines. When going through his paperwork, we found that he didn’t sign up or take a single penny worth of benefits of any kind from the VA. He worked for a local manufacturing plant at home and started and ran his own successful business before he died.”

I can work and be productive with just a few accomodations on the part of my employer. I do have see doctors and physical therapists quite a bit, but otherwise, I seem to manage just fine.

FWIW, I don’t really think it would be worth the trouble to apply, and besides, there are vets coming back home who are FAR more disabled than me. They need the help worse than I do.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:41 pm

Fred @ 5:37

Reading that post brought this movie to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DFg1aS_2E

Jm

September 26th, 2012
5:41 pm

Daughters of confederate veterans!

:)

getalife

September 26th, 2012
5:41 pm

“I went to the Braves last night. What an incredible finish. I am still hoarse today.”

I was at a bar in Buckhead when they won the Championship.

First they danced on the bar, then we hit the streets.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:43 pm

October baseball in Atlanta. And what a great final season for Chipper.

Yeah, baby!

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:44 pm

JHM

I can’t argue about those who are currently coming home. There are even contractors returning that are going to have lingering issues. I talk to people coming back, and the stories are like a punch to the gut.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
5:44 pm

When the defeat comes down in November don’t say I didn’t tell you….

I’ve got your prediction bookmarked so I will know exactly what you posted.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
5:45 pm

“I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only shade of red that will see victory in the SEC championship game will be Crimson. When LSU is unable to do it, the Tide is more than able to represent the West.”–Brocephus

Well Brocephus, I can’t argue with your wisdom.I have nothing to say, as I have to tip my cap to your program.

BUT, as I always tell my fellow Bulldogs, you have to prove it on the field.
(as you guys certainly have)

So, barring any foul ups in the East, we will see you in the Dome, Brother! :-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
5:45 pm

JamVet and Joe Hussein Mama:

I have given you two resources (Inspector General website and “Stolen Valor”).

I have stated my personal experiences involving federal investigations.

The truth is there if you wish to know.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
5:46 pm

Sons of Mexican American Veterans!

Hmm

Sons of 1812 Veterans?

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
5:46 pm

Polls could be wrong and I think will tighten as we go through October. Romney campaign spending blitz should really be ramping up in the swing states.

With that said, I doubt there would be much talk from the very ones complaining about the “sample mix” if Romney were leading at this time.

Thomas

September 26th, 2012
5:47 pm

From Forbes online- fact or fiction?

Romney and Obama tied in Rasmussen Poll: Most Accurate Pollster in 2008 and 2004

October baseball in Atlanta. And what a great final season for Chipper

Amazing old man- guy can’t touch his toes but still has one of the sweatest swings ever. Still think there is a chance he goes AL next year for DH to 500HRs. Anyway- Politico says 34% chance of that happening

Joe Hussein Mama

September 26th, 2012
5:47 pm

0311 — “I have given you two resources (Inspector General website and “Stolen Valor”).”

I must have missed that IG link. Could you repost it, please?

Thomas

September 26th, 2012
5:48 pm

I guess he does sweat when he exhibits his sweet swing-

Welcome to the Occupation

September 26th, 2012
5:48 pm

New poll just out from Europe – 87 percent of Europeans polled would vote for Barry. In other news, the EU is on the brink of collapse due to years of socialists programs and unchecked spending

Ha! Knew that was coming from how it started. \

Ray, you ought to do a little actual thinking and reading, rather than listening to American right-wing talking points.

The crisis of the European economies has nothing whatsoever to do with “socialist spending” programs but rather with a poorly founded currency union with no political foundation for fiscal transfers and meshing between economies with different strengths. The EU is a neoliberal wet dream, hardly socialist.

As for O’s European popularity (Hollande joked he would withhold his endorsement so as not to confuse the thick Americans), Obama is already a solidly center right politician here. In Europe he’s actually even further to the right.

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
5:49 pm

Joe,5:40,

In my experience, you are a rare bird. The disability claims that attempt to come across the desk of Retirement Services would astound you. All of us in the military were pressed to do retirement physicals periodically as a precursor to possible disability claim by the retiree. The hardest one to prove was PTSD and it was the most abused. Some of these guys should be in Hollywood. The average disability granted for combat arms was 30%, sometimes more. But the bizarre stories and lies from those who had no disability at all were sometimes legend. Once again, I admire you for your honesty and integrity. We ought to have more like you.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
5:51 pm

Sons of Prussian Veterans? (I know, it was a long shot)

Martin the Calvinist

September 26th, 2012
5:52 pm

I have to add my two cents worth before I help celebrate my sweet baby girl’s 6th birthday.

I would believe the polls if they were not weighted 7% heavier democrat, 10% heavier democrat ect, I am probably going to offend someone but If this country is the way Jay says it is, I don’t want to live here, yes I can leave, I get that. But philosophically, I do not want a gov’t that provides health insurance for it’s citizens, retirement pay for it’s citizens, and in some cases basic sustenance like food, shelter clothing. My problem is that Gov’t can not and will not protect, provide, and serve the interests of all its citizens. I don’t see how raising taxes by 4% on those who make 200/250 thousand will give that many more people prosperity, I don’t see how cutting 20% of a military budget will bring people out of poverty, you are going to have to raise taxes by 10 maybe 15 percent on those income brackets and you are going to have to raise taxes by 10% on those who earn 100,000 dollars. I don’t see the math on how you can (using gov’t) to create economic equality. It isn’t happening. Its naive for you to believe that. If this country is going the way the polls say it is, we are in trouble…end of story

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
5:53 pm

The EU is a neoliberal wet dream, hardly socialist.

“neoliberal”

Heh, heh, heh.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
5:54 pm

“I would believe the polls if they were not weighted 7% heavier democrat, 10% heavier democrat ect”

Got proof?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:55 pm

Yep, all of the many polls are rigged.

Romney is way ahead on all of them but nobody knows it because of the vast left wing conspiracy to hide it!

Welcome to the Occupation

September 26th, 2012
5:56 pm

Kamchak:

On the other hand, the EU, and its wildly inflation-obsessed central bank, is socialist in one sense:

For the bankers.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
5:58 pm

USMC

That’s the matchup I would love to see in the Dome.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
5:58 pm

Still think there is a chance he goes AL next year for DH to 500HRs.

Jamvet says 0% chance.

He and Jeter will likely be the very last players ever to go into the Hall having worn exactly one uniform their entire careers…

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
5:59 pm

Brosephus™

If I wake up and see some white buttocks, then something has gone horribly wrong.

——————————————————

We KNOW you and TBG are white.

Josef is Morman.

Geesh. Keep up with the program :-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
5:59 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

I know what neoliberal means, but I would’ve used the term neoclassical to avoid confusion. But I suspect you were just baiting the hook.

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
6:01 pm

There are a gazillion was that a poll can be rigged. Asking questions in a certain way, calling only those with land lines, sampling only those who encourage a certain result, asking registered voters instead of likely voters, depending on exit polls as reliable sources of data, etc. It would work either way for liberals or conservatives depending on who was wanting to skew the result. And it happens all the time. There is not a single poll, Rasmussen included, that I would believe short of two weeks before the election and then only a jaundiced eye. Our polarization has led us to this and I guess we have to live with it. That doesn’t mean we have to like it.

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
6:02 pm

The University of California system announced Wednesday they will pay $30,000 in damages to each of the 21 students and alumni who were sprayed at a peaceful protest against budget cuts and tuition hikes last November.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
6:03 pm

NoCom

:lol: :lol:

If I wake up and see white buttocks, I’ll be praying that the wife spilled baby powder all over the place. Otherwise, I’m gonna have to enter the witness protection program. :)

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
6:03 pm

Funny how polls are suddenly rigged when they were not such a short time ago.

Mr_B

September 26th, 2012
6:06 pm

“Well, I see what josef has to say about Abraham Lincoln, so you can rule Springfield IL out. He’s just a little nastier to Lincoln than he is to me.”

yeahdat

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:08 pm

“That’s the matchup I would love to see in the Dome.”–Brocephus

Yessir, Brocephus. That would be a game. But I still insist that my Bulldawgs need to prove it on the field, like they did against Vandy(I know, Vandy isn’t a powerhouse, but we at least didn’t play down to their level like we usually do).

We can talk plenty of smack, good natured of course, when the big game approaches.

Geaux (tribute to Getalife) Dawgs!

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:10 pm

“The University of California system announced Wednesday they will pay $30,000 in damages to each of the 21 students and alumni who were sprayed at a peaceful protest against budget cuts and tuition hikes last November.”–Taxpayer

I went through the stiggin GAS CHAMBER at Parris Island and got nada!
But boy what an experience! :-)

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
6:12 pm

USMC

Did you retire from the service?

Jack

September 26th, 2012
6:12 pm

Hey. lets all just be happy there’s no sex freak in the white house like Clinton..

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
6:12 pm

Romney’s budget plan would lead to a net loss of 554,000 jobs by 2014, while President Barack Obama’s budget plan would lead to the net creation of 1.4 million jobs, according to a new analysis by the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank. Moreover, if Romney makes his budget revenue-neutral, as he has promised, then his plan would lead to a net loss of 1.9 million jobs over the next two years, largely because of deep spending cuts, the report found.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:13 pm

“If I wake up and see white buttocks, I’ll be praying that the wife spilled baby powder all over the place. Otherwise, I’m gonna have to enter the witness protection program.”–That African-American Guy

ROFLOL! screen cleaner please! :-)

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:14 pm

“Hey. lets all just be happy there’s no sex freak in the white house like Clinton..”

Yeah, that President was IMPEACHED… imagine that. :-)

RAMZAD

September 26th, 2012
6:14 pm

That is right we don’t like Romney.

Republicans do not like Romney. Right Wing fanatics do not like Romney. Newt Gingrich does not like Romney. Rick Santorum does not like Romney. Rick Perry does not like Romney. Romney is a creature of lies, propaganda, disinformation, personal insults to people of all stripes. Romney is a
rich straw man for moderate Republicans who are guided by hate for Obama.

Welcome to the Occupation

September 26th, 2012
6:14 pm

As you know, Kamchak, I don’t have much use for subtlety. My instrument of preference is a meat cleaver here more than butter knife! Terms that conflict with existing understandings of concepts are all the better.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:15 pm

“Romney’s budget plan would lead to a net loss of 554,000 jobs by 2014, while President Barack Obama’s budget plan would lead to the net creation of 1.4 million jobs, according to a new analysis by the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank. Moreover, if Romney makes his budget revenue-neutral, as he has promised, then his plan would lead to a net loss of 1.9 million jobs over the next two years, largely because of deep spending cuts, the report found.”–Taxpayer

Yet we have NEVER seen an OBAMA PLAN.
The strategery is pure Genius! :-)

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
6:15 pm

Taxpayer, 6:12,

If Bozo is such a whiz at creating jobs, why is our unemployment number still at a reported 8.2%? For every job he “creates”, someone drops out of the work force. It’s a wash, my friend….. always was.

Paul

September 26th, 2012
6:16 pm

TaxPayer

And the idiot security cop who sprayed them – did the article say if he got canned?

_________________________________________________________________

Has anyone yet explained how national polling organizations, operating in a competitive marketplace, who get paid for their services, whose reputation is enhanced the more accurately their polls and analyses turn out to be, who have a wide variety of clients paying for their services.

can all get basic polling procedures so horribly wrong?

Listened to a bit of Rush today. According to him it’s all a conspiracy. That aside, anyone have any theories that actually make sense?

Curious Observer

September 26th, 2012
6:16 pm

I went through the stiggin GAS CHAMBER at Parris Island and got nada!
But boy what an experience!

Me too, but you never forget the smell of that stuff or the experience of “clearing” the gas mask and then waiting for the gas.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
6:17 pm

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
6:18 pm

USMC

I think the East is Georgia’s to lose. I hope they prove me right. It’s about time for Georgia to string a good year together. As to smack talking, you’d better believe I’m gonna bring it. :)

Paul

September 26th, 2012
6:18 pm

Jack

Therapists dealing in sex obsession are ready when you are.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:18 pm

“If Bozo is such a whiz at creating jobs, why is our unemployment number still at a reported 8.2%? For every job he “creates”, someone drops out of the work force. It’s a wash, my friend….. always was.”

It’s not even a wash. The true unemployment number is said to be as high as 15% to 16% when including people who have dropped out of looking for a job.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
6:18 pm

Jm:

Sons of Vietnam Veterans ?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
6:20 pm

A vast left wing conspiracy?

Funny, the Clintons said it was a vast rw conspiracy against them.

I guess that is karma.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
6:24 pm

I hate to say this but I can’t lie.

The Dawgs are good but not good enough to beat Alabama this year.

We are praying for an upset.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
6:24 pm

Bro

GA has SC and FL in the next 4 weeks?

As USMC stated, they need to do it on the field. The overall schedule sets up nicely for them, but they have a way of not showing up at times.

Z57

September 26th, 2012
6:24 pm

Brain Damage……. Wait let me say it again. Drain Bramage… Here we have a Left biased article saying that the right is delusional….

Please. Conservatives are just that. Conservative….Most care not to make a lot of noise about how the left is that ….or this….. or whatever. They aren’t paying attention to self professed poll analysts. Indeed….It always cracked me up when I watch a Theorhetical Physicist….Just what it says…. A highly educated individual that gets paid to theorize reality.

Wake up.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
6:25 pm

Neocons, your RINO is screwing up!

Romney’s favorable rating is underwater. Almost two-thirds of voters approve of Obama’s decision to bail out the auto industry, a staple of Ohio’s manufacturing economy. The president leads Romney by a wide margin on the question of who would do more to help the middle class.

And when voters are asked which candidate would do a better job handling the economy, Obama has a sturdy lead, undercutting the thematic premise of Romney’s candidacy.

Prepare for your second straight McCaining…

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:25 pm

“I think the East is Georgia’s to lose. I hope they prove me right. It’s about time for Georgia to string a good year together. As to smack talking, you’d better believe I’m gonna bring it.”–Bro

Well you have plenty of ammunition, based on what you guys have done the last few years; especially last year. (the Mich beat down this year was enough for all SEC fans to feed on, and leftovers)

I will never forget the year that UGA was preseason #1. I was screaming at the top of my lungs for them to get their heads out of the clouds.

Bama came to Athens and beat the tar out of Stafford and Moreno and company.
Before the game, the Dawgs were practicing their ChestBumps without helmets on, while on the Bam side of the field, coach Saban’s team was buckled up running through drills like a fine tuned, well disciplined team. It made me want to grab CMR by the collar. :-)

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
6:27 pm

Reds Win! Reds Win!! _132 to 5_

Since ‘88 , in state prez elections, there’s been a dramatic increase in discrepancies between the exit polls and final “count”.
Must be divine intervention, that Republicans won 132 times…..

None Dare Call It Vote Rigging

Bob Fitrakis, Ph.D. in political science and a J.D. He is an election law attorney, professor, and has written four books on election integrity.
(snipped)
A couple of private companies count our votes with secret proprietary hardware and software, the most notable being ES&S. Every standard of election transparency is routinely violated in the U.S. electronic version of faith-based voting. How the corporate-dominated media deals with the issue is by “adjusting the exit polls.” They simply assume the recorded vote on easily hacked and programmed private machines are correct and that the international gold standard for detecting election fraud – exit polls – must be wrong.
(snip)
In any other election outside the U.S., the U.S. State Department would condemn the use of the these highly riggable machines based on the discrepancy in the exit polls.

http://bit.ly/OQxJ8C

getalife

September 26th, 2012
6:29 pm

The got Chipper good after the game. He loved it.

I think Saban coached them to not celebrate to save their energy for the fourth quarter.

He is out recruiting the SEC and the country.

USMC

September 26th, 2012
6:30 pm

“I hate to say this but I can’t lie.
The Dawgs are good but not good enough to beat Alabama this year.
We are praying for an upset.”–Getalife

Maybe you, Bro and whoever wants to can meet up at a great bar or my house and watch.
We can grill, drink beer, smoke our cigars and watch some SEC football!

We will all pitch in and send you a Greyhound ticket to get up here to the ATL. (joking) :-)

Jm

September 26th, 2012
6:30 pm

Scout 6:18

Important one. I don’t know that that one opens any magic doors though….

Sons of the battle for the conch republic?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
6:31 pm

Jm:

Sons of the Little Big Horn ?

Paul

September 26th, 2012
6:32 pm

getalife

“We are praying for an upset.”

One of the best things about college football: on any given day, anything, that is, absolutely anything, can happen.

Krystal'sBalls

September 26th, 2012
6:32 pm

That’s why I said before, that some people will definitely have to come to grips with the fact that whoever wins this election will have an implied MANDATE that the country should be taken in a certain direction…because this election is merely about that. It’s no longer about “jobs, jobs, jobs”. Sounds good, but it stopped being about that long ago. People know who they are voting for and why at this point. All else is posturing. So become a true “patriot” and get with the program come Nov. 7th, or consider moving to a new country. It’s that simple I think.

F. Sinkwich

September 26th, 2012
6:34 pm

“U.S. chief executives’ view of the economy deteriorated sharply in the third quarter and is now as bleak as it was in the immediate aftermath of the last recession, with more planning to cut jobs over the next six months, according to a survey released by the Business Roundtable on Wednesday.”

Go O’bozo! You da man!

This is what happens when a community organizer who knows nothing about business becomes POTUS.

O’bozo and his media sycophants like Jay are strangers to America:

“… it is probable that a press which maintains an intimate touch with the business currents of the nation is likely to be more reliable than it would be if it were a stranger to these influences. After all, the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world. ”

Calvin Coolidge

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
6:35 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

As a trim carpenter I carry around a 12 oz. Rocket TruTemp hammer because if I drive a nail, it’s usually a 2″ 6p. nail into material that’s usually less than ¾ inch and that hammer is perfectly suited to the job. On occasion, it’s a 10p. or 16p. nail into something thicker, but my hammer can handle that also.

I get grief sometimes from the younger studs that wave their 24 oz. waffle head framing hammers like it means something, but when they start leaving waffle marks on trim work, I make ‘em take it down and do it all over again.

Now sure, you can spread butter with a meat cleaver, and you can’t easily cut meat with a butter knife, but tools are made with a purpose in mind.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
6:35 pm

Interesting (to me at least)

Why would Gingrich’s supporters vote for Romney(NEWT will beat Obama in the debates)?

Or, Perry or Cain or Bachmann (remember her and the corndog 47% of the people in this country are MEN) LOL

These are all people who looked at Romney and found him WANTING as a candidate.

I think I will wait for Newt to debate Obama. Wait, you say Newt wasn’t NOMINATED. WTF

Anybody but Obama brings nothing to the table. Romney is running on Ryans budget balancing plan, but then sends Ryan to talk to the AARP. WTF were they thinking (or are they)?

:-)

getalife

September 26th, 2012
6:37 pm

Paul.

You got that right.

One bad game and a few lucky breaks is all it takes.

You have to stay undefeated.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
6:37 pm

Sons of Grenada

Paul

September 26th, 2012
6:39 pm

If it hasn’t been posted, Andy Williams, RIP. Succumbed after a year-long battle with bladder cancer.

Saw him a little while back in Branson. He still had it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
6:39 pm

Conservative….Most care not to make a lot of noise about how the left is that ….or this….. or whatever.

And I spent last night with the Dahm triplets.

At a Holiday Inn Express.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
6:41 pm

So since we are now trying to count the TRUE unemployment nubers (which we never have).

The jobs losses under Bush were MUCH worse than we though. I guess we need to adjust Obama’s numbers to account for the comeback from ALL those other jobs lost.

:-)

Paul

September 26th, 2012
6:42 pm

Sinkwich

Yeah, right. I was just looking at one corporation. CEO’s pay went up 27% this year. Makes a couple tens of millions. Corporation paid zero US corporate income tax.

These guys ought to be lovin’ Obama.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
6:43 pm

Jay

SONS OF WEST VIRGINIA VETERANS

:-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
6:43 pm

Sons of the Peloponnesian War veterans!

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
6:45 pm

Son of a Son of a sailor

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
6:45 pm

getalife

I’m still looking forward to the weekend when Bama rolls down I-20. That one’s definitely going to be a prime time showdown.

—————

They BOTH

It might just be me, but I sense a bit of difference in this Georgia team. I think those kids have their heads on pretty straight.

—————

USMC

That was the infamous “Blackout” game, wasn’t it? I looked at the demeanor of the players before the game and told my friends that something bad was about to happen to Georgia.

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
6:47 pm

Kamchak,

When I have done finish carpentry, I usually use a nail gun. Eliminates a lot of waffle marks on the molding and much easier to use.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
6:48 pm

Bro

They look pretty good so far, plus getting two D starters back this week.

Bro I think it was the 2nd “Blackout” game…….. The 1st was the year before against Allbarn if I am not mistaken. The 2nd was GA getting “knocked out” game

G Mare

September 26th, 2012
6:49 pm

Paulo, thanks for “Moon River.” RIP, Andy.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
6:50 pm

Bro,

If it is a low scoring game, we have a chance to beat you again.

Your quarterback is still better this year. Mett is inconsistent.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
6:52 pm

kayaker 71

And I got a dozen or so nail guns from framing guns to .18ga.brad nailers , but every now and again, I have to drive a nail by hand..

F. Sinkwich

September 26th, 2012
6:56 pm

“Yeah, right. I was just looking at one corporation. CEO’s pay went up 27% this year. Makes a couple tens of millions. Corporation paid zero US corporate income tax.”

You are a stranger to America too, Paul.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
6:57 pm

filky,

The wealthy will be fine if we cut their welfare.

Stand up and stop bowing down filky.

You look silly.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
6:58 pm

Kam

When your nail guns start to wear out what do you do with them?

Where can I go for hard to find parts?

I have a few I have to rebuild, but can’t find all the parts I need.

:-)

TM

September 26th, 2012
7:05 pm

Jay why don”t you and your family take a trip to the holy land where I am sure you will fell safe

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
7:09 pm

They BOTH

I forgot about the Auburn game, but then again, it’s only Auburn. :)

————–

getalife

I’m willing to wager that game will have a 7 or 8pm kickoff. If there’s any single stadium that’s hard to win a night game as a visitor, that would be in Death Valley. I think Les Miles has only lost 3-4 night games in Baton Rouge. That’s a hell of a record, especially considering the conference foes. I always get nervous when we have to visit Baton Rouge.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
7:09 pm

Common Freaking Sense

I got a Paslode MU212 that worked 15 years ago, but I have retired ’cause I can never get it fixed again. A great all around trim gun, but notorious for going through driver blades.

I got high regards for Stone Mtn. Power Tools for my repairs, but I doubt they have a satellite office in Pa.

Since you’ve been out of the biz for a few years to be a wimpy azz IT pro, Senco has become the big name in power nailers, and makes a damn fine product that I only have to have fixed ’cause I dropped ‘em.

Donovan

September 26th, 2012
7:10 pm

Thanks Jay for that in-depth journalistic opinion from the left. However, I must remind you of your confidence in assuming that Al Gore would be elected in GW’s first election. I believe it was yours truly that set you straight when you replied to me that there would be a smile on your face when all the votes were cast in favor of Gore.

I consider myself well educated, successful, pragmatic, and old enough to see that conservatism always trumps fantasy liberalism. However, I am not cocky or prideful in my political beliefs that I under estimate my political opponents. That I leave to you and your rabble.

Obama should have never been elected, based on his credentials and his ideology. None the less, the stars and the moon were aligned for his victory with the massive help of your Democrat Party’s misinformation, the liberal media’s full court press, and a war against terrorism that required massive funding. Hats off to your masterful handling of propaganda, union contributions, and organized efforts towards dumbing-down the American public (poor entitlement seekers-blacks-young people-house wives-Hollywood liberals-Latinos-union members-educators-ignorant people).

What we now have is another election cycle where the outcome is more acute. There is a president who is a Marxist leaning misfit vying for re-election against an opponent who has the real credentials to move this battered country towards a successful path. Jay Bookman is trying his best, along with the liberal media, to destroy the challenger and I am trying to persuade the American public to see through the BS that the liberal establishment is perpetrating.

History has shown us the foibles of past liberal presidents. Jimmy Carter was elected on the same propaganda tactics as Obama was elected. Jimmy Carter was a failure in his governance as Obama has been. Each were surrounded by academics and fools. Economic governance was a disaster under each. Foreign policy has been a disaster with each. Iran was lost with Jimmy Carter. The American embassy in Iran was overrun with Jimmy Carter. The consulate in Benghazi was overrun and American lives were lost with Obama (a bump in the road). It’ s in your face and in the news.

Jay Bookman now claims victory again for this worthless liberal dream of a liberal president. The liberal news media is in full disparaging news of Romney’s failing numbers. The AJC is doing their part, the liberal TV stations are doing their part, the DNC is doing their part, and the liberal polls are doing their part.

Let’s just see how this plays out on Nov. 6. It boils down to the effectiveness of your propaganda upon the American public or the pragmatic view of the American public’s intellect. You fooled the American public once before, but can you go for a repeat?

As far as the polls go…you are insistent that no matter how bad the economy is and how bad the unemployment is, the public wants 4 more years of Obama’s incompetence? Yeah, RIGHT!

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
7:10 pm

On Wednesday, former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum and Sen. Jim DeMint, a tea party star, announced their support for Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin.

Missouri women who know that their place is in the kitchen and bedroom agree…

TM

September 26th, 2012
7:14 pm

from the NYT Jay’s paper of record

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton indicated for the first time on Wednesday that there was an explicit link between the Qaeda franchise in North Africa and the attack at the American diplomatic mission in Libya that killed four Americans, including the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
7:15 pm

“I consider myself well educated, successful, pragmatic…”

What is it Kam writes?

Oh yeah.

And, I stopped reading…

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:15 pm

If Romney loses the election, the only poll that matters, it will be cause they oversampled Democratic voters.

liz

September 26th, 2012
7:17 pm

sons of draft dodgers-when danger reared it’s ugly head mighty sir robin turned and fled…

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:17 pm

“… it will be because….”

there, I fixed it.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
7:18 pm

Kam

A friend gave me a Paslode. I can’t find the parts anywhere LOL. No wonder

Wimpy azz IT pro :-) .

That be me, I only use my other skills during my contract breaks.

I’ll look at Senco when I drop my running one :-)

F. Sinkwich

September 26th, 2012
7:18 pm

Poor Jammie, his BFF has been outed:

“It’s no surprise that Ralph Nader isn’t a fan of former President George W. Bush. After all, the longtime activist ran against him in both 2000 and 2004. But Nader’s even less a fan of President Barack Obama, if only because he thinks Obama was capable of so much more.

On issues related to the military and foreign policy, Obama’s worse than Bush, “in the sense that he’s more aggressive, more illegal worldwide,” Nader told POLITICO, going so far as to call Obama a “war criminal.”"

Worse than the worst president EVER???

Bummer.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
7:19 pm

“If Romney loses the election, the only poll that matters, it will be cause they oversampled Democratic voters.”

Got proof?

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
7:24 pm

If Romney loses the election, the only poll that matters, it will be cause they oversampled Democratic voters.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 26th, 2012
7:25 pm

Commenting on the war criminal——–

Nader gave Obama this much: He’s the lesser of two evils when compared to GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. But he said Obama is “the more effective evil because he brings credibility, he brings the democratic heritage to it, he has legitimized the lawless war-mongering and militarism abroad of George W. Bush.”

.
Nader = Honesty
AmVet= hypocrit
.
LOL.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 26th, 2012
7:26 pm

I meant…………….
.
AmVet= Neo-Con Hypocrit.
.
lol.

Mighty Righty

September 26th, 2012
7:27 pm

The Nazification of America continues under Obama. The government dictates which food items children are allowed to eat or starve which most are choosing to do. Any parent knows that food cannot be forced on chldren but this simple fact escapes the president and first lady.. The overweight first lady’s equirement of food rationing for children will undoubtedly soon be expanded to force audults to eat as she wishes. Easy enough to do by just forcing grocers to carry only governent approved items.

Paradoxical Quote of The Day From Ben Stein:
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured… but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”
Now add this, “Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens
will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance
because they are citizens.”

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
7:28 pm

But as always the laugh’s on you, filthy . Here’s the rest of the quote…

Nader warned that the former Massachusetts governor is not to be trifled with either, calling him the greater of the two evils and that he is “basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”

TM

September 26th, 2012
7:28 pm

If Romney loses the election its because you blind bats believe that Stevens died because of some short film

cc

September 26th, 2012
7:29 pm

The following is excerpted from an article, “Do Americans truly understand ‘redistribution of wealth’?” By Virginia Prodan. The link is posted below if any of you libs want to take the time to read it. If not, you may continue on your ignorant way . . .

“I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular “ – Obama addressing students at Loyola University in 1998

Your work and your wealth will belong to the government “in the name of society”; in other words, it will belong to the collective. Actually, though, your work and your wealth will belong to the elite of the government, who will decide who and what is given your money. This is what “redistribution of wealth” means in Obama’s philosophy; it is also the basic principle of communism.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/do_americans_truly_understand_redistribution_of_wealth.html#ixzz27caF6qIh

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
7:30 pm

When Romney loses the election its because he blamed our embassy personnel for sympathizing with their attackers.

And you idgits agree with him…

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
7:34 pm

“The Nazification of America continues under Obama”

Oooooh! Someone IS getting desperate

Dharma Bum

September 26th, 2012
7:35 pm

Since Obama winning the election is clearly a foregone conclusion for Mr. Bookman, does that mean we won’t have to read any more opinion pieces from him about it?

I would also like to know, since Mr. Bookman is so confident in his ability to see into the future… why hasn’t he booked a ticket to Vegas?

:D

TM

September 26th, 2012
7:35 pm

When Romney loses the election its because he blamed our embassy personnel for sympathizing with their attackers. Tell that to Steven’s family. No its became the president spent a week bragging about killing a certain 9/11 terrorist and did not increase security at our State office in the area om 9/11

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 26th, 2012
7:36 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
7:28 pm

But as always the laugh’s on you, filthy . Here’s the rest of the quote…

Nader warned that the former Massachusetts governor is not to be trifled with either, calling him the greater of the two evils and that he is “basically a corporation running for president masquerading as a human being.”
——————————————————————————————————-
.
Bookman and AmVet………………………………………Comedy gold.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
7:38 pm

“Since Obama winning the election is clearly a foregone conclusion for Mr. Bookman”

Reading comprehension’s not your strong suit I see

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:40 pm

Doggone, read my 7:15 again. Brosephus got it.

Mighty Righty

September 26th, 2012
7:40 pm

I knew a brain dead out of touch with reality democrat would dispute the president and his wife forcing anerican citizens to eat only their approved food. Age, size, weight, excercise have nothing to do with it it is a one size fits all stupidity. An 18 year old football player gets the same amount of food as a fourteen year old female invalid. Think about it.

http://townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2012/09/23/complaints_mount_against_michelle_obamas_new_lunch_menu

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
7:42 pm

“Doggone, read my 7:15 again. Brosephus got it”

and what makes you think I didn’t?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
7:43 pm

The American Thinker?

Couldn’t you have just linked AmSpec, or Powerline or Hotair instead?

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:44 pm

Mighty Righty. I hear they plan on shooting people who don’t eat their vegetables. Its why the Social security deopartment bought all those millions of hollow point bullets.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
7:45 pm

The Nazification of America continues under Obama.

I think I have officially heard it all… :roll:

Remember your rants about school lunches when the US is incapable of fielding a military because of obesity in about 20 years.

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:45 pm

“and what makes you think I didn’t?”
_____________________________________
7:19

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:46 pm

The American Thinker is barely either.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
7:47 pm

“7:19″

Looks like I’m not the only one with a very literal mind. I’ve been asking that question of dumb posters for a while…just thought I’d share it around even when it didn’t really apply.

Billy Kelley

September 26th, 2012
7:50 pm

Jay,I am old enough to remember the Carter-Reagan polls in 1980 which said that the race was a toss-up. Didn’t exactly turn out that way. I know polls are “smarter” now but still things don’t go to suit everyone. Didn’t in 1980 at least.

cc

September 26th, 2012
7:52 pm

“Couldn’t you have just linked AmSpec, or Powerline or Hotair instead?”

You apparently see no validity to the writer’s comments? Have you ever read any history?

josef

September 26th, 2012
7:52 pm

saywhat?

September 26th, 2012
7:53 pm

7:47. Makes more sense then. I did not read through all 800 posts, so I am highly likely to have missed that.

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

September 26th, 2012
7:55 pm

You apparently see no validity to the writer’s comments?

Socialism — BOO!

Have you ever read any history?

Of course.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Fact

September 26th, 2012
7:57 pm

I see Bookman is working overtime for his DNC bonus check.

“After he was elected, Mr. Obama allowed himself to believe in his own legend, cheered on by the hundreds of thousands of adoring supporters who thronged his inauguration … It was as though he concluded that his election by itself changed the world and had fulfilled his promise of a postpartisan era.”–New York Times

A legend in his own mind. A failure in reality.

There will be no second coming for Bookman’s messiah.

Obama and Second Chances

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
8:03 pm

Wayward, what is humorous is watching you ODS Republicans reference Ralph Nader for the one and only time in your entire lives.

Funny that, huh?

As is this observation of his: “the worst Republican Party in history.”

Yep.

cc

September 26th, 2012
8:03 pm

“Have you stopped beating your wife?”

Bingo!

Answered like a true lib. You’re dismissed . . .

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
8:05 pm

“So, how do you say PMS in Farsi?

Looks like at least one woman says it with actions, not words!

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:08 pm

Scout 6:31 :)

All those others were funny too

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

September 26th, 2012
8:08 pm

You’re dismissed . . .

Awwwwwwwwww, shucks.

And here I was believing this would be a red-letter day in my diary.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

TaxPayer

September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm

The truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it, ignorance may deride it, malice may distort it, but there it is. Winston Churchill, 1916.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm

“SONS OF WEST VIRGINIA VETERANS”

West Virginia was a war?

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
8:13 pm

“West Virginia was a war?”

Confederate was a war?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
8:14 pm

Wow.

A legend is leaving the game…

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — As Nebraska’s coach, Tom Osborne had one of the most successful runs in college football history.

As athletic director, he pulled the football program he and Bob Devaney built out of a nosedive and repaired a fractured department where staff morale had nearly bottomed out.

And now, he’s almost done.

The 75-year-old Osborne announced Wednesday that he will retire Jan. 1 after five years on the job. He’ll become athletic director emeritus and stay involved in department operations through July 30.

Each of the 25 Nebraska football teams Osborne coached won at least nine games, and three of his last four teams won national championships. He left coaching after the 1997 season with a career record of 255-49-3, an .836 winning percentage that ranked fifth all-time among Division I coaches, and 13 conference titles.

”I feel we’re well positioned,” Osborne said. ”We worked hard on the culture and part of that has not just been internal. We’ve tried to link this place with the former players. … Whatever we’ve accomplished couldn’t happen if we didn’t have a united fan base. It would be hard to find one equal to our fans around the country. It allows a program in a state of 1.8 million to be competitive with programs in densely populated areas.”

Go Big Red.

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm

Doggone…

Wasn’t that a good one! Seems like there’s a lot of that going around…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh17-5LD9mY

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:16 pm

Sons of Jericho Veterans?

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
8:16 pm

I hope Jay doesn’t miss Mrs. Smith’s 3rd grade class poll showing Obama leads broccoli by 6 points. His fans are counting on him to prop Obama up any way he can.

Geez…

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

Doggone 8:13 :) Fair point, in a way :)

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

Jm

Keep up, West Virginia is the 57th state LOL

F. Sinkwich

September 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

Barry “Bumpy Roads” O’bozo has spent his entire presidency placating the Muslim world, including waist bowing to dictators, apology tours, appeasement, calling terrorism “workplace violence,” and tasking NASA’s primary mission as Muslim outreach. How has his groveling paid off?

“A plurality of likely voters — or 45 percent — believe that U.S. relations with the Islamic world are worse under President Barack Obama than they were under President George W. Bush, according to a Rasmussen poll released on Tuesday.”

Bummer.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

“Wasn’t that a good one!”

Yep!

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:21 pm

josef

Glad to see you back from your sabbatical. Hope you are doing well.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:22 pm

Son of a gun!

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:23 pm

BOTH

Don’t have to be nice for a whole year! :-)

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:23 pm

Sink

Just for you

Two-thirds of Americans have confidence in the U.S. government to deal with problems abroad, a nine-year high dating back to the start of the Iraq War, according to a poll.

A Gallup poll released Tuesday found that 66 percent of respondents have “trust and confidence” in Washington “when it comes to handling international problems,” versus 57 percent who said the same last year. Confidence peaked at 83 percent in late 2001 and steadily fell over the next six years, bottoming out at 51 percent in late 2007.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81664.html#ixzz27cohg1iP

TGT

September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm

You mean like the “reality check” you libs went through after the 2010 midterms, losing Ted Kennedy’s seat, losing in WI (twice) and losing governorships to the tune of 29-20?

And what was Jay’s take after the 2010 beat-down the GOP put on the Dems? A sampling:

“hard fights ahead”

“Midterm electorate was older, whiter …and angrier” (blame the electorate?)

“Compromise? Sure, say Dems. Nope, says GOP.”

“Obama is Public Enemy No. 1″

“Truth is, the American people don’t know what they want”

And what was Jay’s take after Scott Walker’s convincing recall win (+7 points)”

“The race also offered insight into what the post-Citizens United landscape might look like, with conservative groups able to generate millions of dollars in contributions and outside expenditures and vastly outspend the Democrats.” (In other words, blame the Supreme Court.)

Funny that there was no talk of a “reality check” after those elections.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:25 pm

TGT

Cry much?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:26 pm

Jm:

You never heard of the Battle of Blair Mountain ? The biggest one on U.S. soil since the Civil War ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

cc

September 26th, 2012
8:27 pm

I believe Obama put a lot of people out of work in West Virginia, didn’t he?

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
8:28 pm

I know this is from Orange 12, disguised as _Fact:
Obama and Second Chances

It’s really beneath the AEI to allow this juvenile garbage on their website.

Fact

September 26th, 2012
8:28 pm

“Shakedown Socialism: A Love Story” by Oleg Atbashian

Chapter 6. The Fallacy of “Economic Equality”

“If some people had wings and others didn’t, and the government wanted to enforce “fairness,” soon no one would have wings. Because wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. Likewise, a government edict cannot make people smarter or more capable, but it can impede the growth of those with the potential. Wouldn’t it be fair if, in the name of equality, we scar the beautiful, cripple the athletes, lobotomize the scientists, blind the artists, and sever the hands of the musicians? Why not?”

http://www.shakedownsocialism.com/book.php

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:29 pm

They BOTH suck @ 6:37

“Sons of Grenada” ????????????

“We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the
northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in
the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?”

General John W. Vessey Jr., United States Army, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff;
during the assault on Grenada, 1983

……………………………. :o

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:30 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:30 pm

cc:

“I believe Obama put a lot of people out of work in West Virginia, didn’t he?”

Yes ………. but to be honest most of them were already on “relief”. It’s a lifestyle.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 26th, 2012
8:31 pm

Well, if josef is back on here I’m logging off. No need for two of us, seeing as how we think so much alike and all.

See you in the morning everybody.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:31 pm

cc

How many of those coal regs predate Obama?

You do know, right?

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:31 pm

Common 8:17 I missed that in my history books :)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:32 pm

P.S. re: “Blair Mountain”

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“The Battle of Blair Mountain was one of the largest civil uprisings in United States history and the largest armed rebellion since the American Civil War.[1] For five days in late August and early September 1921, in Logan County, West Virginia, some 10,000 armed coal miners confronted 3,000 lawmen and strikebreakers, called the Logan Defenders,[2] who were backed by coal mine operators during an attempt by the miners to unionize the southwestern West Virginia coalfields. The battle ended after approximately one million rounds were fired,[3] and the United States Army intervened by presidential order.”

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
8:33 pm

Don’t have to be nice for a whole year!

Shouldn’t be too hard……. :-)

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:33 pm

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:35 pm

Scout

Guess all those mine execs were treating those workers so well and that got pissed anyway. Huh?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:35 pm

“Democrats spent the first century of this country’s existence refusing to treat black people like human beings, and the second refusing to treat them like adults.

After fighting the Civil War to continue enslaving black people and then subjecting newly freed black Americans to vicious, humiliating Jim Crow laws and Ku Klux Klan violence, Democrats set about frantically rewriting their own ugly history.

As soon as abortion is relegated to the same trash heap of history as slavery has been, liberals will be rewriting history to make Democrats the pro-lifers and Republicans the pro-choicers. That’s precisely what they’ve done with the history of race in America.”

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-09-26.html#read_more

Fact

September 26th, 2012
8:35 pm

“I know this is from Orange 12, disguised as _Fact:
Obama and Second Chances”

Just goes to show you don’t know much.

cc

September 26th, 2012
8:35 pm

Obama saved GM (read, “saved the union”) and all those American jobs with taxpayers’ monies, right? Check out where GM promptly moved much of their operation! That’s right, CHINA!

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:36 pm

Scout re Blair mtn

Good stuff

I had no idea

Learned something on the blog today. Miracle :)

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:37 pm

Tundra…

Not around the Imam’s front porch, anyway! :-)

F. Sinkwich

September 26th, 2012
8:37 pm

“A Gallup poll released Tuesday found that 66 percent of respondents have “trust and confidence” in Washington”

Well before the “bumpy roads.”

Snooze…

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:37 pm

Ann Coulter?

Really?

You must love rhetoric and fiction

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:39 pm

Scout

She has a new book coming out, so to dupe people like yourself (no offense) she will go on the political and entertainment show and ratchet up her rhetoric, hyperbole and outright lies she is known for; each time she has a new book

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:39 pm

JM

Really? You want some real history, look into all the sh*t that’s been swept under the carpet vis a vis West Virginia…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:39 pm

They BOTH suck:

“Scout

Guess all those mine execs were treating those workers so well and that got pissed anyway. Huh?”

A couple of points:

1) My Daddy worked in the coal mines.

2) My earliest childhood memories are of him sitting in a wash tub on the back porch trying to get the coal dust off.

3) That was a time in our history when strong unions were needed ………. prior to OSHA and dozens of other agencies, laws, and court opinions.

4) At one time I was a member of the Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen. I saw numerous examples of union malfeasance and troublemaking just for the sake of it.

5) In my opinion, unions now are “generally” counterproductive and the certainly have NO PLACE in the government workforce..

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:39 pm

Sink

As long as you are not snoozing on election day, Thurston Howell is going to need all the help he can get

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:41 pm

Scout

I hear ya, but do you think the decrease in union membership as anything to do with the “real wage” stagnation over the last 40 yrs?

Jm

September 26th, 2012
8:43 pm

Sons of Culture Wars!

I think those are still being born today.

Josef. WV is a crazy place….

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

September 26th, 2012
8:43 pm

“ain’t hit a lick” in 3…2…1….

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:45 pm

Jm:

A lot of rounds went down range.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:46 pm

They BOTH suck:

Hard to tell. It is what it is.

I’ve worked both as a union member and as I non-union member.

I personally prefer the latter.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:47 pm

Kammie:

You’re slipping ………………………..

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:47 pm

JM

I kinda like WV, myself.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:47 pm

Kammie:

But …………. it let’s me know I got in your head because your remember the little “ditty” !!

Love it !!!

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:48 pm

Scout

And that would be your personal experience. Many a good worker would say just the opposite, while others would agree.

If you do not mind me asking, how many civilian jobs and at what age did you have them before your career with Uncle Sugar?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:49 pm

They BOTH suck:

“She has a new book coming out, so to dupe people like yourself (no offense) she will go on the political and entertainment show and ratchet up her rhetoric, hyperbole and outright lies she is known for; each time she has a new book.”

Not to be confused with reality.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:51 pm

Scout

If you buy into Coulter as much as you buy into the birther website WND, you do not have much of a grip on reality any longer……………

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
8:51 pm

““A Gallup poll released Tuesday found that 66 percent of respondents have “trust and confidence” in Washington”

That could be 33% “trust” in Washington and 33% have “confidence” in Washington. It’s all in how you present the data and you’d all be idiots to believe any of these numbers without knowing how the questions were asked and what the pool of respondents was. They could have asked the question in the Senate chambers for all we know.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
8:52 pm

“Check out where GM promptly moved much of their operation! That’s right, CHINA!”

Never let a good lie die.

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
8:52 pm

P.S. re: “Blair Mountain”
The battle ended after approximately one million rounds were fired,[3] and the United States Army intervened by presidential order.”

Good one! They counted the rounds fired…..but forgot to count the dead miners…
Must be from an “official” history book.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:53 pm

BOTH:

My career with the federal government started when I was 25.

Prior to that I worked in:

Retail Sales
Labor
Railroad Brakeman (Ohio)
USMC
Manufacturing
Sanitation Engineer (Garbage Man ………. :o
Railroad Brakeman (Georgia)

ragnar danneskjold

September 26th, 2012
8:53 pm

Funny lines by David Burge:

Shecky Ahmedinejad emcees the UN Celebrity Roast of Barack Obama

Listening to Ahmedinejad, I’m glad we keep our clinically mentally ill safely contained in Congress

Any NYPD out there? Quick, put a boot on Ahmedinejad’s goat cart.

When fascism comes to America, it’ll enter through the faculty parking lot

When it comes to the media, Obama is less eye candy than Shake Weight.

Wait. You mean Politico usually isn’t a satire?

“Ask not what your country can do for you” – “tear down this wall” – “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Tzom Kal, y’all

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:54 pm

Ooops !

I left out :

Lineman’s Assistant (Jackson Electric Co-Op)

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
8:54 pm

“5) In my opinion, unions now are “generally” counterproductive and the certainly have NO PLACE in the government workforce..”

What wrongs perpetrated on these employees by our government are these unions protecting them from? Is the government making them work in unsafe conditions as defined by the laws they themselves wrote? Are they violating overtime rules they enforce on the rest of us? Are they firing people without cause against the rules they enforce on the rest of us?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:55 pm

They BOTH suck:

You need to concentrate on Obama ………. he bought into Wright and many others of ill repute.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
8:55 pm

Scout

Cool. Thanks for that reply on the different occupations…….

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:56 pm

RB from Gwinnett:

Good points.

Curious Observer

September 26th, 2012
8:57 pm

As if West Virginia needed any more bad publicity, there’s now a story out that Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair has been relieved of command in Afghanistan and sent home to face court martial charges for forced sex, sex with subordinates, etc. And the killer line is this one: “He is a 1985 ROTC graduate of West Virginia University. Because he’s not a “ring-knocker” – USMA grad. – things could go badly for him.”

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:57 pm

They BOTH suck:

Thank you ………… I’ve been around ………. I’ve seen it from top to bottom and I think I have a good, fair perspective of the workplace in general.

josef

September 26th, 2012
8:57 pm

I best keep my comments on Coulter to myself…no sense in starting off 5773 with THAT on the books… :-)

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
8:58 pm

JamVet @ 8:14

He’s undoubtedly one of the greats.

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“Democrats spent the first century of this country’s existence refusing to treat black people like human beings, and the second refusing to treat them like adults.

I bet Ann Coulter doesn’t say a damned thing about the Texans in her party that drove Blacks out. I’m also willing to bet she said absolutely nothing about the Republican President who did nothing when Blacks were being forced to save towns in Mississippi under threats of death and were treated like sh*t the whole time.

Revisionist history is for dumbasses who are too afraid to look into their own closets for fear of the boogey man.

:roll:

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:58 pm

Curious Observer :

He’s also being charged with “adultery” ……….. imagine that ………. yes ……… “adultery”.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
8:59 pm

Brosephus:

READ the book ……….. maybe she did …….. but you won’t know unless you do.

I read “Dreams From My Father” word for word.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
8:59 pm

Ann Coulter is a despicable, depraved, disgusting human being. Given her own words, an anti-Semite and a bigot who made fun of widows of the 9/11 tragedy.The female equivalent of Lush Rimjob.

But the rabid Randian types and the lunatic fringe adore her…

What? No more Nader quotes from you Republirubes?

And I was just starting to have some fun with you…

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:00 pm

Scout

I have and as mediocre as he has been…….. He is probably still going to beat Thurston Howell and all you will do is make excuses.

You will not speak of Romney being a bad candidate, unable to convey his message, his product is weak……..

It will be excuses and excuses

Look on the bright side, you love to complain…….. So your chances of having Obama to complain about after the election seem to be looking pretty good

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
9:00 pm

Once you have lost Conor Friedersdorf…um… people will ask “Who the hell is Conor Friedersdorf”?

Heh, heh, heh.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:01 pm

josef

She is just a hate peddler to make money……….

Both the left and right have them………….

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:03 pm

“Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday suggested there was a link between the Al Qaeda franchise in North Africa and the attack at the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed the American ambassador and three others. She was the highest-ranking Obama administration official to publicly make the connection, and her comments intensified what is becoming a fiercely partisan fight over whether the attack could have been prevented.”

Well, well, well ………….. somebody better tell the President she’s going rogue.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
9:03 pm

Scout

No offense, but I’d rather not read any book she’s written. I’ve read more than enough of her columns to know that she did not mention any of that in her book. A tiger never changes it’s stripes.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:04 pm

josef

I doubt she even believes in half of what she says………

She is willing to write and say whatever to feed her “flock” of gullibles and make a buck

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:04 pm

They BOTH suck:

And if he does win you will have to live in the same country as I do.

Get prepared.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:06 pm

JamVet:

Well, old Nader did say Obama was a “war criminal” the other day.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:06 pm

I read “Dreams From My Father” as an intelligence report ……….. know your enemy.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:07 pm

Scout

One: I am not scare of you, so that was really a pathetic remark

Two: I never said I was going anywhere, no matter who wins or loses…..

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:07 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
9:09 pm

Thanks, my Roll Tide Bro.

The list of records and neat facts over the past fifty years there is truly staggering.

And like Green Bay, they are the only small market “little guys” who take no lip from the big dogs!

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:10 pm

Scout

If Romney wins, I will say that I was incorrect and that will be it.

If Obama wins, you will not have any will power and you will make excuses, cry and moan about it on this blog for months

Don’t forget it. I wont

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:10 pm

BOTH

Yep.

ZamVet

Got a list of curses for GOP Jews…thought of you,,, :-)

“May your child give his Bar Mitzvah speech on the genius of Ayn Rand.”

“May G-d give you a daughter-in-law who is as kind as she is beautiful, as patient as she is rich, as wise as she is devoted, a virtuous woman in every way. And then may may a ballot initiative invalidate her marriage to your fat lump, Rebecca!”

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
9:12 pm

If Obama wins, you will not have any will power and you will make excuses, cry and moan about it on this blog for months

Or as we call it, Sunday through Saturday.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
9:13 pm

Scout, you do understand the concept of *other*, right?

It is an adjective and it means……………… ah, never mind.

So here is one of his for you to chew on:

…the Democrats will demonstrate to the American people they cannot defend the country against the most craven Republican Party in history. I mean, I’ve never seen worse Republicans. With every ounce of potential tolerance I have toward the Republicans, I can say that I have never seen crueler, more vicious, more unknowing Republicans in the Congress, with very few exceptions… ~Tuesday, November 2, 2010

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:16 pm

they BOTH suck:

I don’t know what you mean by “your not scared of me”. Well no kidding.

What I meant in my post is that if Obama wins, the country will continue to go downhill economically (and in other areas) and you will have to live with that just the same as me.

Brosephus™

September 26th, 2012
9:16 pm

JamVet

They don’t make coaches like that anymore. I like to go back from time to time and watch those old games. Coaches had more love for the sport and coaching instead of lof of fame and fortune. I couldn’t imagine someone like Osborne leaving Nebraska and going to Michigan because of the offer of more money. It may have happened from time to time, but it seemed like the coaches of the major programs generally stayed put unless they were run off or retired.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:17 pm

JamVet:

It’s a free website. Have at it.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
9:18 pm

“I can say that I have never seen crueler, more vicious, more unknowing Republicans in the Congress, with very few exceptions… ”

Doesn’t really make anybody want to “come together” does it?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
9:18 pm

“May your child give his Bar Mitzvah speech on the genius of Ayn Rand.”

Oy!

That would be one messed up child!

(But I am gonna Joe Biden it!)

And since it is the time of year for atonement and repentance, I must confess that I had some (very light) fun at your expense, my brother!

See my 4:50!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:19 pm

RB:

You left these out:

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun!”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard!”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat!”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish our enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:19 pm

Scout

That is your projection……………………. Oh well.

As for myself, I will hope that Romney does do a good job. I will have my doubts, but he could prove me wrong

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:20 pm

They BOTH suck:

I always break it down into three areas:

Economic
Foreign Policy
Moral Issues

The choice for me is easy.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:20 pm

josef

And just so you know, Jamvet has been told that he is not a real Jew.

The blogger even posted a Michael Medved link to back up his assertion……. Granted Medved never said those exact words, but it was good enough for that indivdual

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:21 pm

Scout

Again, Obama is mediocre, but against Mit the flip………

you damn well right, the chose is easy

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:23 pm

ZamVet

Got that 4:50 :-)

“I must confess that I had some (very light) fun at your expense, my brother!”

Well, if it was at my expense, it was cheap! :-)

“May you grow so rich that your widow’s second husband is thrilled they repealed the Estate Tax.”

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:23 pm

RB and Scout

Did you forget this one or were you going to post it?

Speaking of working together

McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:24 pm

josef

I mean told again

bman.

September 26th, 2012
9:24 pm

If I had to place a wager, I’d have to pick Obama to win. I hope I’m wrong. I plan to tune in to the debate…that is very rare for me!

You libs

September 26th, 2012
9:24 pm

Fact (were you going for ironic with that?) @ 7:57

Jay’s pretty astute.

What specifically do you dispute?

(I’m a poet and didn’t know it.)

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:25 pm

“Economic
Foreign Policy
Moral Issues

The choice for me is easy.”

Same for me…looks like it’ll probably be Barack…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:27 pm

They BOTH suck:

“Did you forget this one or were you going to post it?

Speaking of working together

McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

No but there’s always this one:

“If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
9:27 pm

0311, I saw you post that a day or so ago. Great list from the “great uniter”….

What do you suppose the future holds for us when we honestly have no common bond to unite behind? Simply being residents within the same borders ain’t a “common bond” as evidenced by all of Europe, Africa, South America….

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:27 pm

BOTH

He gets told that a lot, doesn’t he…? Who was it playing Haredi rabbi this time?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm

Looks like McConnel and Obama were on the same page.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm

Scout

It could be one term, but chances are not looking great at this moment………….

Still a ways to go

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm

Too easy for our President this cycle.

josef,

Are you born again like a born again Christian?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:30 pm

RB from Gwinnett:

If we don’t soon turn it around, what you see in Europe will become the U.S.

Our nation and our culture is being fragmented more everyday.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:30 pm

josef

Towncrier. It was hilarious. After much bantering back and forth; he finally came back with, that is my judgment and you can’t say I can’t have my opinion. Two days later, he came with the Medved link.

Needless to say, Jam and I had a ball with that one………

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:31 pm

Jesus said, “You must be born again”.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:31 pm

Scout

But since the polls are are biased for Obama, Romney is really leading in all states by 10 pts………

:-)

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm

getalife

:-) Something like that!

BOTH

Medved? Nyanh…surely not!

USA Patriot

September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm

I can’t wait ’till 11/7/12 and see what JB has to say then. May the best man (machine) win!

What a fun ride!

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:34 pm

scout,

Europe used gop austerity and back deep in a recession.

They are protesting cuts and massive unemployment.

Perhaps it is time for you cons to find a hobby.

Being wrong all the time should tell you something like politics is not your thing.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:35 pm

josef

I tell you no lies……………. Heck he even posted another link from one Rabbi then he went on to say that the Rabbi didn’t back up his assertion, but helped him solidify his position. I didn’t know what that meant, except to say……. WOW

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm

They BOTH Suck:

Hard to tell. I remember Carter was projected to win about this time and ……………….

I’ve also learned that as I said earlier this afternoon that the American electorate has changed …………. we have reached (or soon will) the “tipping point” where the takers outnumber
the makers.

Think about it. Our American system is unique in all the world in that it so easily allows the freedom for its own destruction.

It is what it is.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm

0311, we’re definately headed that way. I often ask people what event, bill, anything will really keep us fron continuing down that socialist road? Never an answer. It’s discouraging, but you have to think there were people just like us over there who attempted to keep them from becoming what they have too. It’s inevitable.

My bigger concern is what happens when they decimate our military to the point we can’t be the security force for our friends in Europe who have already decimated their own. Easy targets for the next dictator who decides he’s like to add some real estate to his holdings.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm

Sons of Little Bighorn Veterans!

I think they’re all native American. :)

Josef, I enjoy WV too, still a bit crazy.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm

Scout

Everything is not “destruction” if the country’s direction doesn’t meet Scout’s narrative and ideology. You didn’t put it in those exact words, but come on………

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm

Economic
Foreign Policy
Moral Issues
The choice for me is easy.

Me, too. As a piglet, I’m limited to voting for the guy with the Bigger slopbucket……

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm

Born again Christians occupy Iraq so I think I will pass..

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm

They BOTH suck:

Time will tell won’t it ……….. not the election ………. the country.

I hope there’s not a time long after we are no longer on this blog when you think back and ………. well, old Scout was right.

God bless ……………

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
9:42 pm

Scout

That goes two ways, right?

kayaker 71

September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm

Looks like the Clayton County school board is in for some more fireworks. The Chair has asked the governor to remove selected members of the board so that the board can function without the conflict that it had two years ago when accreditation was jerked. Will these people ever learn?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm

RB:

It’s called WW III.

The only thing that has prevented it to date was nuclear weapons or Russia would have been all over Euriope when they were stronger.

The dictators are always out there ……….. just waiting.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm

If we turn to socialism it will be because of greed and the wealthy control all the wealth.

You cons help make that happen.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm

They BOTH suck:

It sure does.

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm

BOTH

Never ceases to amaze me the goyim deciding for us who we is and who we ain’t…reminds me of a High Holy Days flap with Andrew Sullivan taking on Jeffrey Goldberg for not being a real Jew since he violated the command not to blog on Rosh Hashana… :-)

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/09/on-court-jews-netanyahu-dog-whistling-and-puppet-masters/262560/

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm

0311, The other thing you have to wonder about is what happened to all these government dependent people in this country 200 years ago. My guess is people who refused to work an honest day, hated guns, and spent half their time trying to take what others have earned were culled from the herd. We’ve created a means for them to survive with very little work or work ethic and given them the ability to steal from others without ever owning a gun.

And they don’t even have the common decency to say “thank you”.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm

“But since the polls are are biased for Obama, Romney is really leading in all states by 10 pts………”

Good that you’ve finally come to your senses :)

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm

I often ask people what event, bill, anything will really keep us from continuing down that socialist road?

Not much of a road left….we’re headed for the cliff (good time to take up cliff-diving).
The next crash will end socialism for the little peeps, but not for the Banksters.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm

Good Grief ! Talk about heresy !!!

“Brian Wilson dumped by The Beach Boys The band’s creative force and most recognizable member is told he’s no longer welcome. ‘Makes no sense’ ”

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/mike-love-sprinkles-bad-vibrations-beach-boys-reunion-173511608.html

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:46 pm

The dictators are being purged by the people in the ME.

This is the 21st century and change is here.

You could say our President’s “apology tour” planted the seed.

josef

September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm

TUNDRA

Yep.

JM

A bit? They wrote the book on it! :-)

Jm

September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm

“A bit? They wrote the book on it! ”

Josef.

I wasn’t aware west Virginians could write. Books.

:D

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September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm

RB:

As I said …………. the “culture” has changed.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm

jonix, yeah it was real hoot.

The upshot?

When the guy had a chance to define a “real” Christian, he totally screwed that up too! Seriously.

Not surprising, since more than a handful of our cons here dwell in their own world of made up words and definitions.

Here is one for you ponder:

Christianity is not a religion.

Curious Observer

September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm

And while we’re on the subject of West Virginia, here’s to a great West Virginian who happened to be my 8th grade health and phys. ed. teacher during one of those years after he lost a reelection bid and had to wait a year to run again. A flamboyant son of a gun, he used to walk through the halls with an unlit cigar in his mouth, much to the dismay of the principal. Blessed with a phenomenal memory, he even recalled the nickname—’Fessor—he bestowed upon me then, and he laughed uproariously 50 years later at a school reunion when he learned that I indeed had become a college professor. RIP, A. James. You done good for an old mountain boy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._James_Manchin

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm

If something bad does not happen for our President, the polls will correct before the election by 10.

Another thumpin if you will.

Way too easy .

Nobody believes romney.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:52 pm

“The dictators are being purged by the people in the ME.”

No …………………………………………. the secular dictators in the ME are being purged and replaced by even more evil Islamic Jihadist Terrorist dictators.

Be careful what you ask for ………………………………

Jm

September 26th, 2012
9:53 pm

“change is here”

But nothing more.

Change doesn’t even buy a single Mickey d’s burger anymore.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:54 pm

JamVet:

If Christianity is the “TRUTH” (and I believe it is) and all “religions” are false …………. then by logic it is different from all of them ………… a category all by itself ………. and they are in a category all by themselves.

One day we’ll know won’t we.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
9:55 pm

“Scout

That goes two ways, right?”

It sure does, however some simple study of what has happened to other countries as they’ve headed down this same road SHOULD be proof enough to you to know you’re going to be wrong. Unfortunately, the party full of history majors is either unwilling to study it and learn from it or is somehow delusional enough to think we can have all the benefits of a great country without all those pesky side effects that have decimated those who have gone before us.

Greece, Italy, and Spain aren’t on the brink of collapse because they are too capitalist in nature now are they? Why do you suppose it is?

getalife

September 26th, 2012
9:55 pm

“I wasn’t aware west Virginians could write. Books”

Sounds like something romney would say.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
9:56 pm

Curious Observer:

This is a true story I have told on here before.

I was about 10 years old and sitting on the front porch of my aunt’s house in the wiles of W.Va.

This old, old man walk by the house and on up the road. My aunt came out and told me if he ever came up in the yard or spoke to me to come and get her right away. I said why and she said, “he’s been in prison for the past forty years and just got out. He killed his wife one winter and sold her for deer meat.”

Made a believer out of me !!

Jm

September 26th, 2012
9:56 pm

Getalife

Cuz no one can take a joke anymore

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
9:58 pm

Hey, Jay; got anything on the Libya assassination coverup? Anything, Jay? You must have something, Jay. Come on, Jay, anything from you on this scandal? Anything, Jay? Hmmm…

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
9:59 pm

“The dictators are being purged by the people in the ME.”

Ever read up on how Saddam came to power? Perhaps you should pull your head out and do a little reading.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
9:59 pm

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
10:01 pm

Just remember this:

Take all the money away from all the “rich people” (Obama included), and distribute it to the “poor people” and that works for a month or two. Then what?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm

This one seems exceedingly apropos at this point…

A man is stumbling by the riverside totally drunk when he comes upon a preacher baptizing people in the river. He staggers to the river’s edge and subsequently falls in. The preacher turns around and is almost overcome by the smell of alcohol. He asks the drunk, “Are you ready to find Jesus?”

The drunk answers, “Yes I am”.

So the preacher grabs him and dunks him in the water. He pulls him up and asks the drunk, “Brother, have you found Jesus?”

The drunk replies, “No, I haven’t”.

The preacher shocked at the answer, dunks him into the water again for a little longer this time. He again pulls him out of the water and asks, “Have you found Jesus, my brother?”

The drunk answers again, “No, I haven’t”.

Bu this time the preacher is at his wits end and he dunks the drunk in the water again, but this time he holds him down for about 30 seconds, and when he begins kicking his arms and legs, he pulls him up. The preacher again asks the drunk, “For the love of God, have you found Jesus?”

The drunk wipes his eyes and catches his breath and says to the preacher, “Are you sure this is where he fell in?”

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm

Ahem

Then what?

Dude, barter works great I hear.

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September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm

Jm:

I had two cousins who were W.Va. State Troopers. Oh, the stories they would tell.

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
10:03 pm

Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?

Hitler got the Olympics.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:04 pm

I wonder what jay can trade his blog posts for?

Maybe a beer at at Manuel’s. My guess is that’s about it tho….

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
10:05 pm

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
Ahem

Then what?

Dude, barter works great I hear.

I am a grower of food, and I am well armed. :-)

Josef

September 26th, 2012
10:06 pm

Jm

Well, there is Pearl Buck…ph, wait, she was Chinese… :-)

Both…

Christianity is no a what?????

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
10:06 pm

JamVet:

Ever seen a “false sunrise”?

I have.

It happens rarely, maybe only once a year.

Basically, atmospheric conditions are such that the sun “appears” to have just risen over the horizon …………. but it’s just a reflection.

The real sun ain’t up yet.

One is real ……….. the other is a mirage.

Both “look” like a sun but they are two different categories.

Hope that helps ………………… :o

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:07 pm

“Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?

Hitler got the Olympics.”

Dernit. I wuz gonna say: Obama woulda let Hitler compete in his Olympics if he’d won.

With all that suggests….

Curious Observer

September 26th, 2012
10:07 pm

No surprise to me, 0311. A lot of weird things happened in those mountains. As I-64 was being cut from the Virginia state line to Beckley, WV, a story circulated of workers coming upon an isolated mountain farm where a brother had fathered two children by his unwilling sister. Neither brother nor sister had ever been to a school or left the farm.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:09 pm

Scout

WV trooper stories. I can’t begin to imagine.

Wait, I grew up in GA. Yes i can.

Doggone/GA

September 26th, 2012
10:09 pm

“Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?”

Know the differenece between stupidity and genius?

Genius has it’s limits

Hamiltonaz

September 26th, 2012
10:11 pm

Lots of time for this race to upend and let Romney in. The Libya terror strike is going to be hung around the administration’s neck. We’ll hear “cover up” or “inept foreign policy” or “intelligence snafu”
The desperate will pull no punches.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:11 pm

One is real ……….. the other is a mirage.

No, they are both real. It seems that you confuse mirage – *real* optical phenomenon – with hallucination.

It is explained via basic seventh grade science (refraction) and mathematics.

Keep swinging though, you ain’t hit a lick all year!

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:11 pm

Josef

“pearl buck”

Seriously. Props for that one.

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
10:13 pm

Jam

He is hitting below the Mendoza line, but maybe he can play good D

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:13 pm

The Libya terror strike is going to be hung around the administration’s neck.

?????????????????????

After the amazingly stupid way that the cowardly Willard mishandled it?

(I think the guy is a Democratic plant…)

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

September 26th, 2012
10:17 pm

Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?

Godwin’s Law proven yet again.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
10:17 pm

Perhaps you cons should read the NYTimes about Hillary’s comments.

If you want to know what happens after the next collapse, read about the fall of the USSR.

Organized crime takes over.

Josef

September 26th, 2012
10:18 pm

Gotta scoot…g’night..

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:20 pm

“If you want to know what happens after the next collapse, read about the fall of the USSR.

Organized crime takes over.”

Which mafia is Obama in?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
10:21 pm

Curious Observer:

My Dad grew up in Webster County from the late 20’s to the early 40’s.

There was a little General Store there in the little valley where he lived. Just wice a year a group of men would come “over the mountain” with their mules from Elk River to buy supplies for their families (sugar, salt, etc.) at the store. They would spend the day and then go back. Dad said they would watch at night when they could still see their lanterns go back and forth as they went over the mountain. He also said some of the men still had “percussion” rifles with them ……………….. now that is “old corps” !!!

They BOTH suck

September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

“Which mafia is Obama in?”

US Fed Government
-Sub Group: Democrat Party

Bud Wiser

September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

Multi-tasking can be a good thing…….

But…. not when it comes to trying (for the first time) to tie flies for fishing, and pounding on the computer. It is unwise to forget which hand is holding the tie and which is supposed to be typing.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

jm,

I said it a hundred times.

cons are not funny.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

JamVet:

Disagree …………. one is the “real sun” when it comes over the horizon at the appointed time.

The other is mirage.

It’s not that difficult to understand.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:24 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
10:24 pm

States can break away after the next collapse so the South will be another country.

Redneckastan.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
10:25 pm

“A false sunrise or dawn sundog is a very particular kind of parhelion, belonging to the optical phenomenon family of halos.

It is an atmospheric optical phenomenon associated with the reflection or refraction of sunlight by small ice crystals making up cirrus or cirrostratus clouds in the very particular case when the sun is still below the horizon.

The spread light of a false sunrise has less power than that of a real sun, but sometimes is amazingly similar in its visual behaviour at distance. It is very similar to a subsun, except that in a false sunrise the sun is below the horizon and the ice crystals are above it.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_sunrise

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:26 pm

Getalife

Well, someone has to think for this country.

Which is a non humorous activity.

Con humor is either dry or non PC

Cest la vie.

Tundra Dude

September 26th, 2012
10:28 pm

“Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?

My homie stood up to the Banksters

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
10:29 pm

Headline: “Day of rage in Greece as more stringent cuts loom”

“With wages, pensions and healthcare under threat, protesters flood the streets of Athens”

Very foreboding ……………………….

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:30 pm

Scout

Our pols will debase the currency

Fewer riots early, more riots later

getalife

September 26th, 2012
10:31 pm

Your thinking did a heck of a job under w.

With plenty of blame to go around, I don’t think there has been much thinking in Washington.

Jm

September 26th, 2012
10:35 pm

Mia love received racist hate mail.

John McCain sent this out:

I’ve met with Mayor Love and I know that she is the type of leader we need to send to Washington.

You know I like people who talk straight, make tough choices and are willing to stand up, speak out and even stand alone when necessary. Mia Love has a record of positive results as mayor and we need her voice, her conservative values and her vote in Congress.

——-

John McCain is a better person than Obama, and Obama is a good person.

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm

Getalife 10:31

See name edit

Child, please

September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm

Dying to know why you believe President Obama “deserves” to be reelected? Did President Carter? Or is this the fact that you believe a President who has probably rated about a “D” on his Presidential report card is running against someone you believe will earn an “F”?

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm

It’s not that difficult to understand.

True. For those of us who are not intellectually bankrupt.

You however, seem to be flailing around very badly on the topic!

Christianity is not a religion.

A real optical phenomenon is not real.

What next?

Keep going, this is getting better all the time!

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:39 pm

Did President Carter Bush?

Please explain.

Since you voted for him.

Twice.

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
10:40 pm

“Your thinking did a heck of a job under w.”

W was light in the thinking department.

But libs only want to count the bad things, not the good.

If Obama had passed Medicare Part D, they’d be praising it endlessly.

Since W did it, the roast him for it.

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
10:43 pm

“Christianity is not a religion.”

I’m guessing that at least a few hundred million people would disagree with you.

Good thing we have free speech in America.

In Egypt, you’d be headed to the chopping block.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
10:44 pm

““With wages, pensions and healthcare under threat, protesters flood the streets of Athens”

That would never happen here, right? I mean, we’re the greatest country in the world, the strongest, the wealthiest and Greece has never been….

ummmm…..never mind…

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:46 pm

Jm (not a con),

LOL!

Take it up with Scout. He’s the one with his own private dictionary of made up definitions whereby religions are not religions. (Seriously)

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
10:46 pm

JamVet, just another example of how the democrat party has been overthrown by athiest, socialists, and communists. I wonder if the few Christians left in the party will ever wake up and figure out the others actually hate their religion and their God??

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
10:48 pm

Jamvet

My private dictionary says:

Religion is what you make of it and to each his own. Just don’t kill someone else over it.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:50 pm

RB, you didn’t get the news?!

McCarthyism died a shameful and horrific death sixty years ago. Maybe you should find some other “non-commie” way to embarrass yourself!

Besides, us Hebes really don’t care about your religious nuttiness and intolerance now that we helped take that power away from you…

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

Just don’t kill someone else over it.

Tell that primarily to our “conservative” Christians and Muslims. My tribe is pretty much down with that philosophy…

Cause you’re not praying to me, you’re praying to yourself
And you’re not worshipping me you’re worshipping yourself
And you will kill in my name and heaven knows what else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djc6dldCk3U

getalife

September 26th, 2012
10:54 pm

cons screw everything up including religion.

After this thumpin, it is time to stop deflecting blame and take a good hard look at yourselves, your ideology, your politicians and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
10:56 pm

Jammie, you walk like a duck and talk like a duck, so guess what, Jammie, you’re a duck commrad. Keep spewing the hate, man, you’ve got a chance of it never coming back to haunt you. Good luck with it.

double

September 26th, 2012
10:58 pm

The loser in this election,just may be the winner.

bman.

September 26th, 2012
11:01 pm

“The loser in this election,just may be the winner.”

is that the latest Biden quote?

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
11:02 pm

“After this thumpin, it is time to stop deflecting blame and take a good hard look at yourselves, your ideology, your politicians and the teachings of Jesus Christ.”

Tell us, did you do that after the last election, cause if memory serves me (and every other sane person who’s actually paying attention), you’re team got it’s arse handed to it in the last general election and most of the minor ones since.

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
11:02 pm

States can break away after the next collapse so the South will be another country

Don’t hastily dismiss the plausibility of another civil war coming to America sometime within the next decade or two. It almost seems inevitable. The Founderclass versus the Moocherclass.

Just Saying..

September 26th, 2012
11:05 pm

JaySeptember 26th, 2012-2:15 pm
See ya election night, Michael!
One way or the other, right?

Oh, Michael G. will show up.
Bet you $10,000…

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:05 pm

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
11:06 pm

RB, it’s a free country and you are free to make an ass out of yourself all day and half the night!

In spite of what that disgraced moron, Alan West says, there are not 80 something commies in the US Congress.

And there sure as hell ain’t any in Doraville!

Talk about stuck on 1950s stupid.

But the really good news?

This time you paranoid freaks DON’T get to ruin countless innocent lives with your insane witch hunts like last time.

Sucks to be you, huh?

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:07 pm

Ahem 11:02

I would elect to be south of the border

But I would on occasion enjoy travel to the north

G Mare

September 26th, 2012
11:09 pm

I have pretty much stayed out of this topic as I think not much good can come of it but Ahem @ 11:42, wow, you seriously believe that? Really, really scary!

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:09 pm

Doraville has commies? 8-0

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:11 pm

Is G mare on Bermuda time?

How did 11:42 already happen?

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September 26th, 2012
11:11 pm

JamVet:

“A real optical phenomenon is not real.”

Sure it is ………… it’s real ……… you “see” it ……… it’s just not THE sun.

The sun itself is still below the horizon.

Two different categories ………. one a “real” mirage ……. the other the “real” sun.

As I said, it’s not that difficult to understand.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
11:11 pm

I’m not talking about anybody in congress, Jammie, I’m talking about YOU and nobody but you. Better red than dead still your motto?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 26th, 2012
11:13 pm

TAPS !

The “real” sun will be up in the morning.

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:13 pm

Scout 11:11

Want to really low your brains out? (metaphorically)

Read this

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-09/book-excerpt-there-no-such-thing-time

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:15 pm

Atlanta should turn the lights out at night.

So people can see the stars. Just MO.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
11:15 pm

Doraville has commies?

According to the Red Scared numbnuts in the bordering county, they do!

I must be one helluva strange commie, though.

Unlike him, I raised my right hand and said these words:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYX4peMHdMY

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:16 pm

And with that, lights out for me as well.

Dormez vous….

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
11:18 pm

I know Jammie, and OJ said he didn’t do it too.

Are you gonna drop a “never served, never will” line on me now?

Your service is appreciated. Your attitude isn’t. It stinks.

Old Goober

September 26th, 2012
11:21 pm

It ought to get really interesting after the election, regardless of the election outcome. Without any legislative action before January 1

1. the Bush tax cuts expire.
2. the AMT waiver expires
3. the estate tax floor reverts

And then there are the issues of funding of Obamacare and raising the national debt ceiling. The game of chicken ought to get pretty intense.

And if the Democrats do retain control of the Senate, it will be interesting to see whether Harry Reid will follow through with his vow to change the filibuster rule.

JamVet

September 26th, 2012
11:22 pm

Your service is appreciated.

No it isn’t.

Just more empty, meaningless words.

Sweet dreams and support the troops…

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
11:23 pm

Old Goober, “1. the Bush tax cuts expire.”

The tax rates enacted by Bush have already expired. The current rates were signed into law by Obama. At least assign them to the President who signed them….

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
11:31 pm

“Just more empty, meaningless words.”

Pretty much describes everything you post here, Jammie,

And I’d bet my dad who served and my son who is currently serving would disagree with you, Jammie. I know that’s not good enough to meet the stupid “I served and you didn’t” routine you toss at every person in this country on an almost daily basis, but you need to learn to say “thank you” and show some honor. Your schtick is demeaning to everyone who has worn the uniform.

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
11:32 pm

Jm (not a con)

September 26th, 2012
11:07 pm
Ahem 11:02

I would elect to be south of the border

But I would on occasion enjoy travel to the north

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I wouldn’t anticipate anything as clear as “north and south”.

I can imagine a mix that could see CA; OR; WA and some NE states going one way and the more conservative and self-reliant areas banding together. Think about the southern border states aligning with the “flyover” states and the “deep south” to enforce lawful immigration as an one example.

G Mare

September 26th, 2012
11:35 pm

Oh screw you. You know I meant 11:02.

RB from Gwinnett

September 26th, 2012
11:38 pm

Ahem, in your model, are the NE and California liberals considered immigrants requiring a visa to enter? They do have a tendency to hang on the producers like leeches, you know…

G Mare

September 26th, 2012
11:42 pm

Jay, sorry if I violated polite discourse with my last comment. I won’t attempt to justify, except to say sometimes one just can’t help calling out stupid & nasty.

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
11:43 pm

the more conservative and self-reliant areas banding together
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Those states are the ones that receive more money back from the fed. govt. then they send in.
Does not seem self reliant to me. Sounds like broke and dependent with no sustainable economy.

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
11:45 pm

Well, if nothing else, one might decide to consider them “ill-informed” or “willful idiots”. :-)

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
11:45 pm

G Mare

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Don’t like rude behavior either.

getalife

September 26th, 2012
11:46 pm

civil war?

How will you get the cons from under their beds to fight?

They are scared of everything.

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
11:47 pm

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
11:43 pm
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Are you nothing more than a little statue coveted by the self-absorbed?!?

Ahem

September 26th, 2012
11:48 pm

getalife

September 26th, 2012
11:46 pm
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Don’t have a stroke :-)

getalife

September 26th, 2012
11:51 pm

ahem,

Already had one.

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
11:53 pm

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
11:55 pm

Already had one.

________

Take an aspirin every day.

G Mare

September 26th, 2012
11:55 pm

Hi, Oscar. Must confess I am a little “testy.” The dreaded colonoscopy looms on Friday & liquid diet start in 6 minutes. Sigh!

Oscar

September 26th, 2012
11:59 pm

Are you nothing more than a little statue coveted by the self-absorbed?!?

-

Could be. Or sometimes a grouch or a weiner.

Oscar

September 27th, 2012
12:01 am

G Mare

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I always did better if I pretended I was eating somethine, like jello, than drinking a liquid, which the stuff was not very liquid.
Good luck on your test. The worst part is the thinking about it. And the diet.

getalife

September 27th, 2012
12:01 am

Oscar,

I take a blood thinner coumadin.

getalife

September 27th, 2012
12:03 am

Oscar,

Did they give you meds to relax before the test?

Before open heart surgery, the ER nurse saw that I was nervous and gave me a shot of atavan.

rick

September 27th, 2012
12:04 am

This guy is not too bright, as evidenced by his worn out liberal montra regarding WNDs in Iraq. He conveniently (or ignorantly) fials to mention the current concern of said weapons in potential play in Syrria’s problems. Signature “Dan Rather”, White Guilt twit. Ho-hum…

Oscar

September 27th, 2012
12:29 am

Did they give you meds to relax before the test?

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They give me an IV which in the past was part Valium. I don’t know what they use now, but whatever it is, it relaxes me and I generally go to sleep during the procedure. Same thing when I had eye surgery, detached retina, back in the 90s.
Had the procedure last winter and stayed awake but was very relaxed and could see what the doctor saw on a monitor. Pretty boring and didn’t watch most of it. Like going through a long cave or tunnel.

Dashinkashayla

September 27th, 2012
1:09 am

“And should that argument fail, fear not, because this is a defense in layers. Conservatives are already preparing a fallback defense blaming their loss on the media. Beyond that they have prepared a defense in which they blame it on Mitt Romney, and beyond that on the Republican establishment that forced the selection of Romney on a party base that knew better…”

And if all those fail we will blame the inability to get photo IDs for keeping us away from the polls.

Kujohn

September 27th, 2012
2:18 am

Republicans should prepare For a massive blowout gonna be hard for for the all white older party to win back the white house for several decades On the verge of being taken over by the teabagger s who are openly racist an bigoted Prepare too be a very angry minority group in a country of minority’s RIP

Bobby

September 27th, 2012
3:57 am

Jay, I truly hope you are crushed by the defeat of Obama in Nov….

U.S. actress sues anti-Islam filmmaker, YouTube in federal court

September 27th, 2012
5:00 am

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – An actress who said she was duped into appearing in an anti-Islam film that stoked violent protests across the Muslim world took her legal bid to federal court on Wednesday in a renewed effort to force it off YouTube.
The lawsuit filed by Cindy Lee Garcia names the popular online video site YouTube and its parent company Google Inc. as defendants, along with the Egyptian-American Coptic Christian from California believed to be behind the making of the film.
Last week, a Los Angeles Superior Court judge denied Garcia’s request for a temporary restraining order that would have required YouTube to stop posting the crudely made 13-minute video, finding the actress was unlikely to prevail on the merits of her case in state court.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-actress-sues-anti-islam-filmmaker-youtube-federal-050220346.html

seabeau

September 27th, 2012
5:26 am

Jay , I think you need to google “April Glaspie”,Bill Clintons amb. to Iraq. for thr real reason for Sadams incursion into Kuwait!

seabeau

September 27th, 2012
5:47 am

Plus we know WMD were used against the Kurds! Some made it to Syria,but the majority were found in Iraq. Why no disclosure? Stamped upon them were the marking of the united states army! Sadam wanted nukes to use against Iran when his war didn’t go the way he wished,but instead WE gave him Gas!!

stands for decibels - race traitor

September 27th, 2012
5:57 am

Mornin’.

Just for everyone’s amusement, I happened upon this collection of jingle-driven Presidential campaign ads, going back a few years (to Adlai and Ike). They promise a Part 2 tomorrow…

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/blogs/lodown/2012/sep/26/incomplete-collection-campaign-jingles-part-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+%24{lopate}+%28%24{Leonard+Lopate}%29&utm_content=%24{feed}

Tundra Dude

September 27th, 2012
6:04 am

I think you need to google “April Glaspie”,Bill Clintons amb. to Iraq. for the real reason for Saddams incursion into Kuwait!

I think you need more practice googling……
This incident occurred in July, 1990. Your assignment is to discover who was the US president at that time.

middle of the road

September 27th, 2012
6:32 am

The problem with government is not with the President, but with the Congress. The President can only sign bills that Congress passes.

And the problem with Congress is that it is too politically divided. What we need is a strong Independent party. That way the two main parties have some competition. And when one party or the other in Congress wants to pass a bill, all they have to do is convince the Independents to vote their way. If it is a good bill it will pass. Not like today when one party or the other holds up legislation just for political gain!

marko

September 27th, 2012
6:37 am

With millions out of work, and an infrastructure in desperate need of repair, it would seem to be prudent to put a few people back to work repairing our deteriorating roads, bridges and schools. Yet as I listen to Romney, I’m lead to believe that what America really needs is more defense spending ,and tax cuts for the job creators. After all hasn’t that proved to be a winning strategy in the past?

Don’t trust the liberal media.

Don’t trust the liberal scientist.

Don’t trust the liberal pollsters

Don’t trust liberal philosophies like arithmetic.

Why should they surrender to the forces of reality? Haven’t they always been right before?

Joel Edge

September 27th, 2012
6:52 am

“I have yet to see such anguished handwringing from anyone on the left”
And you won’t, Jay. Liberal Democrats have no doubts about their positions and beliefs. There is very little dissent allowed in the liberal world. Which makes it much more funny when reality intrudes. From the Reagan election to the 2010 disaster. How’s that “40 more years” working for ya?
Of course; we weren’t happy with Romney. We were even less happy with McCain.

Jay's true reality!!!

September 27th, 2012
6:52 am

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs).

Fred ™

September 27th, 2012
7:04 am

Jay’s true reality!!!

September 27th, 2012
6:52 am

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs).
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Thanks Neal. Tell Belinda Hi. Glad you only have a few more weeks left……..