On election night, a reality check looms for someone
The multiplicity of modern media has made it possible to create worlds within worlds, realities within realities. You can, for example, choose a reality in which Barack Obama is up by 3.5 percentage points, with an 80 percent chance of being re-elected, or you can choose to live in a competing reality in which “unskewed” polling reports the happy news that Mitt Romney is actually up almost eight points in national polls.
However, a time will always arrive when your created reality must be “trued up” against actual reality. You can delay that moment, you can dodge that moment, but eventually it must come. Media technology, with all of its magic, has not yet created a work-around to that harsh exercise.
In the runup to the Iraq War, for example, the Bush administration created a reality in which Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, American forces would be greeted as liberators, ethnic differences in Iraq were of little consequence and the invasion would more or less pay for itself. Actual reality proved to be quite a bit different, but it took several agonizing years for our leaders to admit just how delusional their created reality had been, and to realign their policies accordingly.
Election days also have a way of realigning created realities to actual reality. On the evening of Nov. 6, we will not only have an answer to whether the polls or the “unskewed polls” had proved more accurate, we will learn a lot more about the American people as well. Each political party entered this campaign season confident that it had the backing of the majority of Americans; each believed that its message was more true to American values and more responsive to America’s needs.
The election is going to tell us which reality was correct, and which is in need of alteration.
In my own personal created reality — and given human limitations and our imperfect understanding of the world, we all live in created realities of varying accuracies — Barack Obama should and probably will be re-elected. In my reality, those conservatives who have been pouring into movie theaters to see “2016: Obama’s America” may have to come to grips on Election Night with the fact that a majority of their fellow Americans simply do not see the world as they do, that in fact they, not the president and his supporters, are the minority that is out of touch with the American mainstream.
I understand that would not be easy to accept, and that most will employ any means available to avoid doing so. The process is already underway and is easily observable. For example, the claim that current polls are biased against conservatives is at root a defense mechanism that allows them to deny in public, and for a while, an outcome that many of them in private now fear to be looming.
And should that argument fail, fear not, because this is a defense in layers. Conservatives are already preparing a fallback defense blaming their loss on the media. Beyond that they have prepared a defense in which they blame it on Mitt Romney, and beyond that on the Republican establishment that forced the selection of Romney on a party base that knew better.
All of those layers of psychic defense are designed to defend the inner sanctum, the holy of holies. Whatever happens, blame must not be allowed to fall on the conservative message. Blame it on those selected to spread the message, blame it on those who distorted the message, blame it on those too stupid to appreciate the message, but whatever happens, do not blame it on the message.
Because if the message is wrong, it forces a readjustment to reality that is too painful to be considered.
Read, for example, Erick Erickson, the CNN analyst and Redstate.com founder:
“There are a lot of elitist Republicans who have spent several years telling us Mitt Romney was the only electable Republican. Because the opinion makers and news media these elitists hang out with have concluded Romney will not win, the elitists are in full on panic mode. They conspired to shut out others, tear down others, and prop up Romney with the electability argument. He is now not winning against the second coming of Jimmy Carter. They know there will be many conservatives, should Mitt Romney lose, who will not be satisfied until every bridge is burned with these jerks, hopefully with the elitist jerks tied to the bridge as it burns.”
Read his conservative colleague, Ben Domenech:
“There will be very negative consequences for a Romney loss for the power of center-right elites who are largely viewed as foisting him on the base despite the latter’s objections. A Romney loss almost certainly pushes the 2016 nominee rightward, and I doubt the megaphones will be powerful enough to frame the 2012 contest, as they did in 2008, as one where the conservative Veep choice dragged down the ticket.
“Like it or not, the money and opinion elites on the center-right own Romney’s failure from the perspective of the base — they need him to win. And the reality is that if Romney loses, it will have little if anything to do with Paul Ryan’s big ideas, tactical choices, or elite misgivings — and far more to do with the simple fact that Romney is still disliked by most voters.”
Both men insist — and on this they are correct — that the battle is not yet lost. There is still time — barely — to turn the race around, although at this point something major would have to happen to do so. I have yet to see such anguished handwringing from anyone on the left, which tells you something.
The thrust of the argument from Erickson, Domenech and many others is equally telling: Should we fail, our failure can be explained only by the fact that our movement has been insufficiently pure, that our message is insufficiently pure, and that we ourselves have been insufficiently pure. Move farther right, ever farther right, for there lies true salvation.
From my version of reality, that response dooms you to perpetual minority status. From theirs, it represents pursuit of the true faith. And one of those realities is very very wrong.
– Jay Bookman
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Brosephus™
September 26th, 2012
9:16 pm
JamVet
They don’t make coaches like that anymore. I like to go back from time to time and watch those old games. Coaches had more love for the sport and coaching instead of lof of fame and fortune. I couldn’t imagine someone like Osborne leaving Nebraska and going to Michigan because of the offer of more money. It may have happened from time to time, but it seemed like the coaches of the major programs generally stayed put unless they were run off or retired.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:17 pm
JamVet:
It’s a free website. Have at it.
RB from Gwinnett
September 26th, 2012
9:18 pm
“I can say that I have never seen crueler, more vicious, more unknowing Republicans in the Congress, with very few exceptions… ”
Doesn’t really make anybody want to “come together” does it?
JamVet
September 26th, 2012
9:18 pm
“May your child give his Bar Mitzvah speech on the genius of Ayn Rand.”
Oy!
That would be one messed up child!
(But I am gonna Joe Biden it!)
And since it is the time of year for atonement and repentance, I must confess that I had some (very light) fun at your expense, my brother!
See my 4:50!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:19 pm
RB:
You left these out:
** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun!”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard!”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat!”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish our enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:19 pm
Scout
That is your projection……………………. Oh well.
As for myself, I will hope that Romney does do a good job. I will have my doubts, but he could prove me wrong
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:20 pm
They BOTH suck:
I always break it down into three areas:
Economic
Foreign Policy
Moral Issues
The choice for me is easy.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:20 pm
josef
And just so you know, Jamvet has been told that he is not a real Jew.
The blogger even posted a Michael Medved link to back up his assertion……. Granted Medved never said those exact words, but it was good enough for that indivdual
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:21 pm
Scout
Again, Obama is mediocre, but against Mit the flip………
you damn well right, the chose is easy
josef
September 26th, 2012
9:23 pm
ZamVet
Got that 4:50
“I must confess that I had some (very light) fun at your expense, my brother!”
Well, if it was at my expense, it was cheap!
“May you grow so rich that your widow’s second husband is thrilled they repealed the Estate Tax.”
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:23 pm
RB and Scout
Did you forget this one or were you going to post it?
Speaking of working together
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:24 pm
josef
I mean told again
bman.
September 26th, 2012
9:24 pm
If I had to place a wager, I’d have to pick Obama to win. I hope I’m wrong. I plan to tune in to the debate…that is very rare for me!
You libs
September 26th, 2012
9:24 pm
Fact (were you going for ironic with that?) @ 7:57
Jay’s pretty astute.
What specifically do you dispute?
(I’m a poet and didn’t know it.)
josef
September 26th, 2012
9:25 pm
“Economic
Foreign Policy
Moral Issues
The choice for me is easy.”
Same for me…looks like it’ll probably be Barack…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:27 pm
They BOTH suck:
“Did you forget this one or were you going to post it?
Speaking of working together
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
No but there’s always this one:
“If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
RB from Gwinnett
September 26th, 2012
9:27 pm
0311, I saw you post that a day or so ago. Great list from the “great uniter”….
What do you suppose the future holds for us when we honestly have no common bond to unite behind? Simply being residents within the same borders ain’t a “common bond” as evidenced by all of Europe, Africa, South America….
josef
September 26th, 2012
9:27 pm
BOTH
He gets told that a lot, doesn’t he…? Who was it playing Haredi rabbi this time?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm
Looks like McConnel and Obama were on the same page.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm
Scout
It could be one term, but chances are not looking great at this moment………….
Still a ways to go
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm
Too easy for our President this cycle.
josef,
Are you born again like a born again Christian?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:30 pm
RB from Gwinnett:
If we don’t soon turn it around, what you see in Europe will become the U.S.
Our nation and our culture is being fragmented more everyday.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:30 pm
josef
Towncrier. It was hilarious. After much bantering back and forth; he finally came back with, that is my judgment and you can’t say I can’t have my opinion. Two days later, he came with the Medved link.
Needless to say, Jam and I had a ball with that one………
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:31 pm
Jesus said, “You must be born again”.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:31 pm
Scout
But since the polls are are biased for Obama, Romney is really leading in all states by 10 pts………
josef
September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
getalife
BOTH
Medved? Nyanh…surely not!
USA Patriot
September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
I can’t wait ’till 11/7/12 and see what JB has to say then. May the best man (machine) win!
What a fun ride!
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:34 pm
scout,
Europe used gop austerity and back deep in a recession.
They are protesting cuts and massive unemployment.
Perhaps it is time for you cons to find a hobby.
Being wrong all the time should tell you something like politics is not your thing.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:35 pm
josef
I tell you no lies……………. Heck he even posted another link from one Rabbi then he went on to say that the Rabbi didn’t back up his assertion, but helped him solidify his position. I didn’t know what that meant, except to say……. WOW
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
They BOTH Suck:
Hard to tell. I remember Carter was projected to win about this time and ……………….
I’ve also learned that as I said earlier this afternoon that the American electorate has changed …………. we have reached (or soon will) the “tipping point” where the takers outnumber
the makers.
Think about it. Our American system is unique in all the world in that it so easily allows the freedom for its own destruction.
It is what it is.
RB from Gwinnett
September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
0311, we’re definately headed that way. I often ask people what event, bill, anything will really keep us fron continuing down that socialist road? Never an answer. It’s discouraging, but you have to think there were people just like us over there who attempted to keep them from becoming what they have too. It’s inevitable.
My bigger concern is what happens when they decimate our military to the point we can’t be the security force for our friends in Europe who have already decimated their own. Easy targets for the next dictator who decides he’s like to add some real estate to his holdings.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
Sons of Little Bighorn Veterans!
I think they’re all native American.
Josef, I enjoy WV too, still a bit crazy.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm
Scout
Everything is not “destruction” if the country’s direction doesn’t meet Scout’s narrative and ideology. You didn’t put it in those exact words, but come on………
Tundra Dude
September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm
Economic
Foreign Policy
Moral Issues
The choice for me is easy.
Me, too. As a piglet, I’m limited to voting for the guy with the Bigger slopbucket……
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm
Born again Christians occupy Iraq so I think I will pass..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
They BOTH suck:
Time will tell won’t it ……….. not the election ………. the country.
I hope there’s not a time long after we are no longer on this blog when you think back and ………. well, old Scout was right.
God bless ……………
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
9:42 pm
Scout
That goes two ways, right?
kayaker 71
September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm
Looks like the Clayton County school board is in for some more fireworks. The Chair has asked the governor to remove selected members of the board so that the board can function without the conflict that it had two years ago when accreditation was jerked. Will these people ever learn?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm
RB:
It’s called WW III.
The only thing that has prevented it to date was nuclear weapons or Russia would have been all over Euriope when they were stronger.
The dictators are always out there ……….. just waiting.
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm
If we turn to socialism it will be because of greed and the wealthy control all the wealth.
You cons help make that happen.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
They BOTH suck:
It sure does.
josef
September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
BOTH
Never ceases to amaze me the goyim deciding for us who we is and who we ain’t…reminds me of a High Holy Days flap with Andrew Sullivan taking on Jeffrey Goldberg for not being a real Jew since he violated the command not to blog on Rosh Hashana…
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/09/on-court-jews-netanyahu-dog-whistling-and-puppet-masters/262560/
RB from Gwinnett
September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
0311, The other thing you have to wonder about is what happened to all these government dependent people in this country 200 years ago. My guess is people who refused to work an honest day, hated guns, and spent half their time trying to take what others have earned were culled from the herd. We’ve created a means for them to survive with very little work or work ethic and given them the ability to steal from others without ever owning a gun.
And they don’t even have the common decency to say “thank you”.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
“But since the polls are are biased for Obama, Romney is really leading in all states by 10 pts………”
Good that you’ve finally come to your senses
Tundra Dude
September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
I often ask people what event, bill, anything will really keep us from continuing down that socialist road?
Not much of a road left….we’re headed for the cliff (good time to take up cliff-diving).
The next crash will end socialism for the little peeps, but not for the Banksters.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
Good Grief ! Talk about heresy !!!
“Brian Wilson dumped by The Beach Boys The band’s creative force and most recognizable member is told he’s no longer welcome. ‘Makes no sense’ ”
http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/mike-love-sprinkles-bad-vibrations-beach-boys-reunion-173511608.html
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:46 pm
The dictators are being purged by the people in the ME.
This is the 21st century and change is here.
You could say our President’s “apology tour” planted the seed.
josef
September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
TUNDRA
Yep.
JM
A bit? They wrote the book on it!
Jm
September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
“A bit? They wrote the book on it! ”
Josef.
I wasn’t aware west Virginians could write. Books.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
RB:
As I said …………. the “culture” has changed.
JamVet
September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
jonix, yeah it was real hoot.
The upshot?
When the guy had a chance to define a “real” Christian, he totally screwed that up too! Seriously.
Not surprising, since more than a handful of our cons here dwell in their own world of made up words and definitions.
Here is one for you ponder:
Christianity is not a religion.
Curious Observer
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
And while we’re on the subject of West Virginia, here’s to a great West Virginian who happened to be my 8th grade health and phys. ed. teacher during one of those years after he lost a reelection bid and had to wait a year to run again. A flamboyant son of a gun, he used to walk through the halls with an unlit cigar in his mouth, much to the dismay of the principal. Blessed with a phenomenal memory, he even recalled the nickname—’Fessor—he bestowed upon me then, and he laughed uproariously 50 years later at a school reunion when he learned that I indeed had become a college professor. RIP, A. James. You done good for an old mountain boy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._James_Manchin
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
If something bad does not happen for our President, the polls will correct before the election by 10.
Another thumpin if you will.
Way too easy .
Nobody believes romney.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:52 pm
“The dictators are being purged by the people in the ME.”
No …………………………………………. the secular dictators in the ME are being purged and replaced by even more evil Islamic Jihadist Terrorist dictators.
Be careful what you ask for ………………………………
Jm
September 26th, 2012
9:53 pm
“change is here”
But nothing more.
Change doesn’t even buy a single Mickey d’s burger anymore.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
JamVet:
If Christianity is the “TRUTH” (and I believe it is) and all “religions” are false …………. then by logic it is different from all of them ………… a category all by itself ………. and they are in a category all by themselves.
One day we’ll know won’t we.
RB from Gwinnett
September 26th, 2012
9:55 pm
“Scout
That goes two ways, right?”
It sure does, however some simple study of what has happened to other countries as they’ve headed down this same road SHOULD be proof enough to you to know you’re going to be wrong. Unfortunately, the party full of history majors is either unwilling to study it and learn from it or is somehow delusional enough to think we can have all the benefits of a great country without all those pesky side effects that have decimated those who have gone before us.
Greece, Italy, and Spain aren’t on the brink of collapse because they are too capitalist in nature now are they? Why do you suppose it is?
getalife
September 26th, 2012
9:55 pm
“I wasn’t aware west Virginians could write. Books”
Sounds like something romney would say.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
9:56 pm
Curious Observer:
This is a true story I have told on here before.
I was about 10 years old and sitting on the front porch of my aunt’s house in the wiles of W.Va.
This old, old man walk by the house and on up the road. My aunt came out and told me if he ever came up in the yard or spoke to me to come and get her right away. I said why and she said, “he’s been in prison for the past forty years and just got out. He killed his wife one winter and sold her for deer meat.”
Made a believer out of me !!
Jm
September 26th, 2012
9:56 pm
Getalife
Cuz no one can take a joke anymore
Ahem
September 26th, 2012
9:58 pm
Hey, Jay; got anything on the Libya assassination coverup? Anything, Jay? You must have something, Jay. Come on, Jay, anything from you on this scandal? Anything, Jay? Hmmm…
RB from Gwinnett
September 26th, 2012
9:59 pm
“The dictators are being purged by the people in the ME.”
Ever read up on how Saddam came to power? Perhaps you should pull your head out and do a little reading.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
9:59 pm
Scout 9:56
Ahem
September 26th, 2012
10:01 pm
Just remember this:
Take all the money away from all the “rich people” (Obama included), and distribute it to the “poor people” and that works for a month or two. Then what?
JamVet
September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
This one seems exceedingly apropos at this point…
A man is stumbling by the riverside totally drunk when he comes upon a preacher baptizing people in the river. He staggers to the river’s edge and subsequently falls in. The preacher turns around and is almost overcome by the smell of alcohol. He asks the drunk, “Are you ready to find Jesus?”
The drunk answers, “Yes I am”.
So the preacher grabs him and dunks him in the water. He pulls him up and asks the drunk, “Brother, have you found Jesus?”
The drunk replies, “No, I haven’t”.
The preacher shocked at the answer, dunks him into the water again for a little longer this time. He again pulls him out of the water and asks, “Have you found Jesus, my brother?”
The drunk answers again, “No, I haven’t”.
Bu this time the preacher is at his wits end and he dunks the drunk in the water again, but this time he holds him down for about 30 seconds, and when he begins kicking his arms and legs, he pulls him up. The preacher again asks the drunk, “For the love of God, have you found Jesus?”
The drunk wipes his eyes and catches his breath and says to the preacher, “Are you sure this is where he fell in?”
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
Ahem
Then what?
Dude, barter works great I hear.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
Jm:
I had two cousins who were W.Va. State Troopers. Oh, the stories they would tell.
Ahem
September 26th, 2012
10:03 pm
Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?
Hitler got the Olympics.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:04 pm
I wonder what jay can trade his blog posts for?
Maybe a beer at at Manuel’s. My guess is that’s about it tho….
Ahem
September 26th, 2012
10:05 pm
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
Ahem
Then what?
Dude, barter works great I hear.
I am a grower of food, and I am well armed.
Josef
September 26th, 2012
10:06 pm
Jm
Well, there is Pearl Buck…ph, wait, she was Chinese…
Both…
Christianity is no a what?????
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
10:06 pm
JamVet:
Ever seen a “false sunrise”?
I have.
It happens rarely, maybe only once a year.
Basically, atmospheric conditions are such that the sun “appears” to have just risen over the horizon …………. but it’s just a reflection.
The real sun ain’t up yet.
One is real ……….. the other is a mirage.
Both “look” like a sun but they are two different categories.
Hope that helps …………………
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?
Hitler got the Olympics.”
Dernit. I wuz gonna say: Obama woulda let Hitler compete in his Olympics if he’d won.
With all that suggests….
Curious Observer
September 26th, 2012
10:07 pm
No surprise to me, 0311. A lot of weird things happened in those mountains. As I-64 was being cut from the Virginia state line to Beckley, WV, a story circulated of workers coming upon an isolated mountain farm where a brother had fathered two children by his unwilling sister. Neither brother nor sister had ever been to a school or left the farm.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:09 pm
Scout
WV trooper stories. I can’t begin to imagine.
Wait, I grew up in GA. Yes i can.
Doggone/GA
September 26th, 2012
10:09 pm
“Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?”
Know the differenece between stupidity and genius?
Genius has it’s limits
Hamiltonaz
September 26th, 2012
10:11 pm
Lots of time for this race to upend and let Romney in. The Libya terror strike is going to be hung around the administration’s neck. We’ll hear “cover up” or “inept foreign policy” or “intelligence snafu”
The desperate will pull no punches.
JamVet
September 26th, 2012
10:11 pm
One is real ……….. the other is a mirage.
No, they are both real. It seems that you confuse mirage – *real* optical phenomenon – with hallucination.
It is explained via basic seventh grade science (refraction) and mathematics.
Keep swinging though, you ain’t hit a lick all year!
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:11 pm
Josef
“pearl buck”
Seriously. Props for that one.
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
10:13 pm
Jam
He is hitting below the Mendoza line, but maybe he can play good D
JamVet
September 26th, 2012
10:13 pm
The Libya terror strike is going to be hung around the administration’s neck.
?????????????????????
After the amazingly stupid way that the cowardly Willard mishandled it?
(I think the guy is a Democratic plant…)
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 26th, 2012
10:17 pm
Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?
Godwin’s Law proven yet again.
getalife
September 26th, 2012
10:17 pm
Perhaps you cons should read the NYTimes about Hillary’s comments.
If you want to know what happens after the next collapse, read about the fall of the USSR.
Organized crime takes over.
Josef
September 26th, 2012
10:18 pm
Gotta scoot…g’night..
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:20 pm
“If you want to know what happens after the next collapse, read about the fall of the USSR.
Organized crime takes over.”
Which mafia is Obama in?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
10:21 pm
Curious Observer:
My Dad grew up in Webster County from the late 20’s to the early 40’s.
There was a little General Store there in the little valley where he lived. Just wice a year a group of men would come “over the mountain” with their mules from Elk River to buy supplies for their families (sugar, salt, etc.) at the store. They would spend the day and then go back. Dad said they would watch at night when they could still see their lanterns go back and forth as they went over the mountain. He also said some of the men still had “percussion” rifles with them ……………….. now that is “old corps” !!!
They BOTH suck
September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm
“Which mafia is Obama in?”
US Fed Government
-Sub Group: Democrat Party
Bud Wiser
September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm
Multi-tasking can be a good thing…….
But…. not when it comes to trying (for the first time) to tie flies for fishing, and pounding on the computer. It is unwise to forget which hand is holding the tie and which is supposed to be typing.
getalife
September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm
jm,
I said it a hundred times.
cons are not funny.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
10:22 pm
JamVet:
Disagree …………. one is the “real sun” when it comes over the horizon at the appointed time.
The other is mirage.
It’s not that difficult to understand.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:24 pm
Tbs 10:22
getalife
September 26th, 2012
10:24 pm
States can break away after the next collapse so the South will be another country.
Redneckastan.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
10:25 pm
“A false sunrise or dawn sundog is a very particular kind of parhelion, belonging to the optical phenomenon family of halos.
It is an atmospheric optical phenomenon associated with the reflection or refraction of sunlight by small ice crystals making up cirrus or cirrostratus clouds in the very particular case when the sun is still below the horizon.
The spread light of a false sunrise has less power than that of a real sun, but sometimes is amazingly similar in its visual behaviour at distance. It is very similar to a subsun, except that in a false sunrise the sun is below the horizon and the ice crystals are above it.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_sunrise
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:26 pm
Getalife
Well, someone has to think for this country.
Which is a non humorous activity.
Con humor is either dry or non PC
Cest la vie.
Tundra Dude
September 26th, 2012
10:28 pm
“Know the difference between Hitler and Obama?
My homie stood up to the Banksters
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 26th, 2012
10:29 pm
Headline: “Day of rage in Greece as more stringent cuts loom”
“With wages, pensions and healthcare under threat, protesters flood the streets of Athens”
Very foreboding ……………………….
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:30 pm
Scout
Our pols will debase the currency
Fewer riots early, more riots later
getalife
September 26th, 2012
10:31 pm
Your thinking did a heck of a job under w.
With plenty of blame to go around, I don’t think there has been much thinking in Washington.
Jm
September 26th, 2012
10:35 pm
Mia love received racist hate mail.
John McCain sent this out:
I’ve met with Mayor Love and I know that she is the type of leader we need to send to Washington.
You know I like people who talk straight, make tough choices and are willing to stand up, speak out and even stand alone when necessary. Mia Love has a record of positive results as mayor and we need her voice, her conservative values and her vote in Congress.
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John McCain is a better person than Obama, and Obama is a good person.
Jm (not a con)
September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm
Getalife 10:31
See name edit