For conservatives, it’s ‘Blame the media!’ time
Alarmed by polls that they claim not to believe, conservatives are rushing to find explanations for why Mitt Romney may lose the presidential race.
You know, the race that they claim they don’t believe he’s losing.
The obvious explanation is the same one they trotted out after their 2008 defeat at the hands of Barack Obama: The media. Four years ago, you may recall, Obama supposedly got elected because the media failed to “vet” him properly by making a big deal of the Rev. Wright and Tony Rezko and the birth certificate, etc. Such criticism overlooked the fact that their own presidential candidate, John McCain, also failed to make a big deal of those things. He and his staff not only judged those claims unconvincing, they feared they would cause a backlash against the GOP should he bring them up.
You see, McCain understood that the things that get the base all riled — the things that they see with perfect clarity through their right-wing lens — just don’t look the same to the rest of the country.
This year, the press is once again coming under attack from conservatives unable to believe that they again appear to be losing an election to that Kenyan Marxist anti-colonialist. In fact, if you accept the notion that right-wing vitriol rises in direct proportion to right-wing desperation, these arguments provide more compelling evidence of Mitt Romney’s problems than any poll could offer.
For example, Mona Charen complains that “Mitt Romney is facing perhaps the most corrupt and tendentious coverage in presidential history as members of the fourth estate eschew any semblance of integrity in their attempt to skew interpretations in favor of their pinup, Mr. Obama.”
“In 1988, Michael Kinsley issued a now-famous definition: “A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth — some obvious truth he isn’t supposed to say.”
Now, almost a quarter century later, we need a new definition for the word. Here’s mine: “A gaffe is a statement that makes a Republican politician look bad.”
And of course, the always consistent Jennifer Rubin at The Washington Post, apoplectic that Obama supposedly called the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens “a bump in the road,” tell us that “Had Romney said such a preposterous and grossly insensitive thing as Obama did, there would be calls for him to quit the race; alas, when Obama does it’s not even front-page news for most of the mainstream media.”
(The fact that Obama said no such thing does not deter Rubin in her belief that the media should have condemned him for it.)
However, to get an insight into just how deep this thing really runs, you have to go to the home page of National Review, where they ask their readers an intriguing question: “Are conservative pundits too tough on Romney?”
And the answer is, of course they are!
Conservatives believe that even conservatives are biased against conservatives, THAT’S how big a conspiracy it is!
– Jay Bookman
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Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
5:46 pm
OMG….its a conspiracy. Obama is sitting on the evidence. We know what we know. Box 26.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
5:46 pm
Thanks for the new thread Jay
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
5:49 pm
MONA CHAREN? Ithis that Hack still AROUND LMAO.
She was certifiable years ago.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
5:50 pm
Is that hack still around LOL
Steve
September 25th, 2012
5:52 pm
Nate Silver has this as an easy Obama win, and he knows how to massage the poll biases, etc. Republicans are just desperate now as the wealthy are panicking that gasp, they may have to end up paying 3-5% more in taxes on the ever growing gobs of money they funnel offshore whenever possible, to support the military spending that is most of our budget.
DannyX
September 25th, 2012
5:55 pm
Mitt Romney is the worst candidate ever and it’s all the fault of the liberal media!!
“The liberal media pulled one over on us,” said a prominent Republican. “Most Republicans wanted a Republican that could win in November, but the liberal media would have none of it and forced us to nominate Romney. Look, everyone knows Republican voters aren’t very bright and are easily manipulated. Republicans had some very good candidates, Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, and Cain, all could have easily defeated Obama, but when the liberal media decided on Romney that was it. Ball game.”
Members of the liberal media will be meeting in early December to pick the Republican candidate for the 2016 presidential race. “We hope it’s someone good this time.”
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
5:55 pm
Good god do these people have no shame?
Not a chance.
Paul
September 25th, 2012
5:56 pm
“You see, McCain understood that the things that get the base all riled — the things that they see with perfect clarity through their right-wing lens — just don’t look the same to the rest of the country.>”
First time I read that I read “just don’t look SANE to the rest of the country.”
That works, too!
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Another case of when the Republican power brokers get a chance to demonstrate that ‘responsibility thing’ they’re always talking about, they crumple under the pressure, point their fingers and exclaim “They did it!!!!!!”
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
5:57 pm
Nothing new, many swore the media chose McCain.
Guess those people who believe that didn’t vote during the primaries.
Get ready for round 2 of the same.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
5:57 pm
Jay, surely with all the “scandals” that the wingnuts bring up daily as “Obama’s big scandal”, it must be a conspiracy of the media if they fail to follow the Fox lead. What else explains it? Why won’t you vet those claims of Obama drone attacks in WI? Obama killing squads in Chicago? What about them thar claims of Hannity of “The Dirtiest Campaign Evah” The New Black Panther Party? Acorn? You’re part of the problem!
M
September 25th, 2012
5:57 pm
I am both excited and fearful for the derpstorm that will be unleashed if and when Obama is re-elected. It should be epic.
Paul
September 25th, 2012
5:58 pm
DannyX
Do you suppose some people want to remain anonymous because if they had their names associated with their statements they’d be laughed out of the known universe?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
5:58 pm
In fact, if you accept the notion that right-wing vitriol rises in direct proportion to right-wing desperation
I don’t accept that as a matter of fact. I think it stays steady steady steady.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
5:59 pm
DannyX
Republicans had some very good candidates, Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, and Cain, all could have easily defeated Obama, but when the liberal media decided on Romney that was it. Ball game.
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gawd do I love sarcasm with a drink LOL
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
5:59 pm
This thread will draw some “great” responses.
There will be some belly laughs to be had once the comments start rolling in.
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
6:01 pm
Only when somebody with common sense decides to look from within for the source of their problems will this country begin to recover. Some of the GOP are beginning to sound like junkies who are always blaming others for their addictions. It’s time to look in the mirror and acknowledge the ugly truth. Our country needs that to happen in order to return things back to their rightful order and move us all forward.
Mr. Snarky
September 25th, 2012
6:02 pm
Conservatives should relax. How could the worst president ever beat someone as awesome as Mitt?
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:03 pm
Bro
Quit using my name in vain when you attach it to flingers
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
6:04 pm
Bro
Agreed. Obama nothing special, but when almost damn near everything he does is looked at as the “end of the world”, it turns into sad commentary for those who are doing that.
TaxPayer
September 25th, 2012
6:05 pm
Republicans really have that paranoia thingie down pat.
FrankLeeDarling
September 25th, 2012
6:05 pm
Jay I see you have been going to right wing blogs again.
I am getting a little worried about you,I known you tell yourself I don’t
Go there very much ,I can stop anytime I want ,its just for work,but that’s how it starts.
But next thing you know well………
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:06 pm
Obama may not be the solution , but he sure as Hell isn’t the PROBLEM
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:08 pm
FrankLeeDarling
Do we need to have an INTERVENTION for Jay?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:11 pm
Now, almost a quarter century later, we need a new definition for the word. Here’s mine: “A gaffe is a statement that makes a Republican politician look bad.”
Awwwww, poooooor babeeeeeeeeeeeeeey. Want somebody to put a bandaid on your little booboo?
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
6:12 pm
NoCom
I tried to avoid using “Freaking” as a means to differentiate between you and that group.
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They BOTH
Yep. Any given year, Obama would be toast as a candidate. However, we’ve been innundated with the chicken little crap since 2008, so people don’t even pay attention to that stuff anymore, unless they believe in it anyway.
I would love for a sensible candidate, from either party, to put forth a campaign based on what they would do as opposed to simply beating the current office holder with a limp noodle. I can see people’s mistakes and shortcomings with my own eyes, but if you can’t show my why you would be better, then I’m not too keen on switching just because one is bad. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the street.
Redneck Convert (R---and proud of it)
September 25th, 2012
6:13 pm
Well, everybody knows them lyin’ papers cause the election of librul Democrats. Romney’s getting the shaft like the man that goes in to get his colon checked. Only he don’t get the shot to numb the pain. They just keep on pushing and pushing. They never gave Romney even one day to enjoy his win in the primaries before they started in on him. It was tax return this, car elevator that, strapping the dog to the roof of the car, shipping jobs overseas, liking firing people, being a draft dodger—it just never ended. I bet right now even his wife don’t like him. Heck, by the time the press is thru with him he’ll need to pitch a tent in the dog graveyard just to take a nap.
It’s just a shame the press will make sure we don’t have a experienced businessman in the White House. Somebody that will run this country like a business. I’d like to see it. Somebody acts up and President Romney says “Yo azz is fired and here’s a box to put your things in before we ship you out of here. And you better hope we don’t sic the cops on you.”
I just hope y’all are proud of the hatchet job you done on the man. And I just bet there’s a big tax audit in his future when the election is over.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:13 pm
Movement conservatism is a barely concealed nihilistic scheme to find pseudo-political justification for borderline criminality. It is looting pure and simple, and really ought to be ruthlessly crushed.
Mr_B
September 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
Funny how often the conservatives around here bring up the earth-shattering ratings of Fox news and the ever-vanishing support for the AJC and other “lamestream” outlets. Now those losers are “controlling the message”. I guess even the folk who watch Fox don’t really believe them.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
You see, same as last time, the GOP isn’t do a good job of “getting their message out”.
Otherwise they would be way ahead!
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
I favor poisoning the water from which conservatism drinks with really cruel poison.
Strangle the thing in the cradle.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:15 pm
The grass is GREENER on Romney’s side of the street with all the Monkey poo he keeps flinging around LOL
Mr. Snarky
September 25th, 2012
6:15 pm
I guess when you’re losing you’ve got to blame somebody…and looking in the mirror can be very painful.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
6:17 pm
Of course, everyone knows the media speaks truth, always, and the American people celebrate the media’s neutrality in everything news.
Oh wait, from Gallup four days ago:
“WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans’ distrust in the media hit a new high this year, with 60% saying they have little or no trust in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. Distrust is up from the past few years, when Americans were already more negative about the media than they had been in years prior to 2004.”
“Journalists” should hang their collective heads in shame.
Memo to J-schools: Stop producing liberal mush-heads who want to “change the world” and start teaching the idiots who enroll in your leftie Marxist colleges to start looking for reality.
And fire people like Tucker. Are you listening, UGA?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
6:18 pm
Jay, you forgot to mention that Obama has so much control over the media that he makes he forces Romney gaffes to occur and then the media plays “gotcha”. Oh if only our poor Sarah had not been raked over the coals by that sneaky sneak Katie. Sarah would be telling it as it is if she only had a forum. Why she and Ann should be rolling down the airplane windows and shouting out to the nation as they fly back and forth.
The empty chair is the smoking gun.
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
6:19 pm
The grass is GREENER on Romney’s side of the street with all the Monkey poo he keeps flinging around LOL
That stuff does make some decent fertilizer… Much better than Scott’s.
Real Scootter
September 25th, 2012
6:20 pm
Redneck Convert (R—and proud of it)
September 25th, 2012
6:13 pm
ROFLMAO!!!!
Mr_B
September 25th, 2012
6:21 pm
“start teaching the idiots who enroll in your leftie Marxist colleges to start looking for reality.”
Translation:” teach ‘em to buy into my particular set of delusions”
saywhat?
September 25th, 2012
6:22 pm
Romney will be gaffe free for the rest of this campaign. The reason? His staff have implemented a new strategy- every time Mitt says something stupid, out of touch, or too revealing of his real dogmatic right wing goals, his handlers will release a statement the following day stating that he was just joking. Who knew the Mittster was the funniest guy in all of Mormondom? He may even get a sit-com out of this election.
Mr_B
September 25th, 2012
6:24 pm
Jay: to be fair, you should have mentioned the fact that Mitt isn’t conservative enough for Real Americans to vote for.
saywhat?
September 25th, 2012
6:26 pm
Fox News channel is too liberal and in the bag for Obama.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:28 pm
Actually every conservative with even a shred of integrity or intellectual honesty – meaning the group of conservatives that EXLUDES the likes of the Jennifer Rubins and John Podhoretzes for example – have already said it plain as day: the problem with the Mitt Romney campaign is not the candidate himself, and it’s certainly not a gaffe here or there. As David Brooks even said in his column today, the problem runs much much deeper and is endemic to the movement as such.
It’s a movement of cretinism, run by cretins. Simple as that.
Sarequia
September 25th, 2012
6:31 pm
The media do in fact show a bias toward the Democrats, but grownups understand that the media periodically get it wrong and that each of us has to make up his own mind.
For example who can forget how the media bought into Bush’s Iraq invasion propaganda lock, stock and barrel. No one including the AJC had the stones to question the emperor’s new clothes then, but we now know how that turned out.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
6:32 pm
“For example who can forget how the media bought into Bush’s Iraq invasion propaganda lock, stock and barrel. No one including the AJC had the stones to question the emperor’s new clothes then, but we now know how that turned out.”
Ummm, that is not true, and I have the scars to prove it.
Mary Elizabeth
September 25th, 2012
6:32 pm
“For example, Mona Charen complains that ‘Mitt Romney is facing perhaps the most corrupt and tendentious coverage in presidential history as members of the fourth estate eschew any semblance of integrity in their attempt to skew interpretations in favor of their pinup, Mr. Obama.’ ”
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The above statement is false, but when one has habitually come to view political spin as “truth” and as reality, then thinking, such as Ms. Charen expressed, emerges as actual truth in her mind.
As I have expressed previously, authentic truth will emerge – of its own accord – in time because as MLK expressed, “the moral arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice.” And, authentic truth seems to be emerging in the consciousness of most Americans regarding current Republican spin.
I am absolutely appalled that Republican Party operatives have deliberately tried to suppress voter registration in states throughout this nation in order to win the presidental election, as an organized tactic. If you cannot win the hearts and minds of the American people, then you resort to such unethical and inherentlly unAmerican practices. Moreover, Americans have been manipulated to distrust their own government thanks, in large part, to Republican spin operatives such as Lee Atwater. I learned, today, that this distrust of government was first generated from President Reagan. This untruth, too, will be seen, in time, for what it is – an attempt at political spin to manipulate “truth,” in order to gain power. Authentic truth will always emerge, in time.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:35 pm
Sarequia: “The media do in fact show a bias toward the Democrats”
Your second paragraph correctly gives the lie to the claim in the first that the media have a bias towards the Dems.
The media have a bias towards the US political system and ruling elite as such, not towards any particular party.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:36 pm
Jay
Ummm, that is not true, and I have the scars to prove it.
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Cage Match with Boortz?
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
September 25th, 2012
6:36 pm
Let me try to explain it for you a little bit better, Jay. We can not believe the supreme leader can even run for President again, given his sub-Carter presidency, much less win. This astounds us. Why would Democrats re-nominate a guy nobody would hire to run a lemonade stand?
We hope and pray our fellow citizens are not crazy enough to re-elect this moron. Polls are easy to manipulate, and Democrats lie about all kind of stuff, so its not too hard to extrapolate to our conclusion. The media is “in the bag” for emperor nero – no sane person can deny this. Heck, Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are not what I would really call “conservative,” they just kind of try to act like they are.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
6:36 pm
The MSM is 90% lib ilks. So some people point that unfortunate fact out to the Barry “Bumpy Roads” O’bozo sycophants, and it becomes another opportunity for lib ilks to deny any such thing.
The MSM failed MISERABLY back in 2008 by anointing a community organizer Marxist as “sort of a god” and got the most radical candidate ever elected president.
Now Jay and his minions must defend their role in suffocating the greatness that is America.
It’s worse than sad. It’s repulsive.
Dave
September 25th, 2012
6:37 pm
Assuming the polls are right, something I think is a bad idea this far ahead, I’d like to see some reporting and analysis on Obama’s coattails – take back the House, go over 60 in the Senate? Or will there be “four more years” of gridlock?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:38 pm
Ummm, that is not true, and I have the scars to prove it.
Our fearless host here does in fact stand head and shoulders above many of his liberal cohorts.
Hey, could that be the reason your here in Atlanta and not at the ever-booklicking WaPo or Times?
getalife
September 25th, 2012
6:38 pm
cons never use personal responsibility for their party.
The wealthy does not need any help.
Is that too complicated for you?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
6:39 pm
F. Sinkwich: “The MSM is 90% lib ilks. So some people point that unfortunate fact out to the Barry “Bumpy Roads” O’bozo sycophants, and it becomes another opportunity for lib ilks to deny any such thing.”
Good god, brother. Hate to be mean, but did you finish 5 years of schooling? With that kind of diatribe, barely literate, you make one wonder.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
6:40 pm
Heck, Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are not what I would really call “conservative,”…
Desperation.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:41 pm
Faux News isn’t Conservative?
True. They are a bunch of right wing nutcases LOL
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
6:41 pm
Heck, Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are not what I would really call “conservative,” they just kind of try to act like they are.
Dave
September 25th, 2012
6:41 pm
What’s an “ilk?”
Jay
September 25th, 2012
6:41 pm
Cage Match with Boortz?
I said scars, not faint scratches.
West Indian Charlie
September 25th, 2012
6:42 pm
I have said it before and I will say it again. The GOP need to go down in a flaming defeat come November. Let a saner more moderate party rise from the ashes.
paulo 977
September 25th, 2012
6:43 pm
Mary E…….re: ” authentic truth”
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/24/mitt-romney-self-creation-myth
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:45 pm
Jay
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
6:45 pm
Now Jay and his minions must defend their role in suffocating the greatness that is America.
It was asserted that Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, now you must defend your role in not nominating him.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
6:45 pm
romney stump speeches are so bad even ryan is grimacing.
romney sounds like our cons slinging poo at our President.
Perhaps he should try just being himself for a change.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
6:46 pm
I do not think it is fully responsible for the state of the current polls that have Romney losing. And if he does loose it will not be the main reason for his defeat.
But for those who are saying there is not a media bias….
http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/liberal-media-bias-what-the-studies-and-surveys-tell-us/
Seems all of these studies show that their is indeed a bias.
Jay,
Have you seen these studies and if you have do you believe them?
Being a member of the media would it not be fair to say that your assessment of media bias is well by bias in nature as you are speaking about yourself?
jconservative
September 25th, 2012
6:47 pm
I find the Liberal Media cop out amusing.
There was a liberal media in 1952 and Eisenhower was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 1956 and Eisenhower was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 1968 when Nixon was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 1972 when Nixon was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 1980 when Reagan was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 1984 when Reagan was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 1988 when Bush 41 was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 2000 when Bush 43 was elected president.
There was a liberal media in 2004 when Bush 43 was elected president.
The liberal media has made sure Republicans only had the White House in 36 of the last 60 years.
The liberal media is about as competent as the Romney campaign staff.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
6:47 pm
“Good god, brother. Hate to be mean, but did you finish 5 years of schooling? With that kind of diatribe, barely literate, you make one wonder.”
Truth hurts Occutards. Has from the beginning.
I’m not your bro.
liberal hack
September 25th, 2012
6:48 pm
Romney isn’t winning because he’s selling bad ideas, he’s a horrible candidate, plain and simple. His policies in Massachutes are pretty similar to how Obama runs this nation. There really isn’t any seperation. Nor will there be if Romney wins. Except the tax thingy, if he can even get that approved…
Dave
September 25th, 2012
6:49 pm
Marty there is bias everywhere, including “the media.” Some of the bias is on the left, say MSNBC and Bill Maher. Some is on the right, say Fox News and pretty much everyone that you see on it.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
6:50 pm
“Being a member of the media would it not be fair to say that your assessment of media bias is well by bias in nature as you are speaking about yourself?
Marty, if you’re saying what I think you’re saying, yes.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
6:50 pm
Kam
It was asserted that Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, now you must defend your role in not nominating him.
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They got as close as they could to a somewhat living being by selecting Romney. (note no humans were used in this post) LOL
liberal hack
September 25th, 2012
6:50 pm
a “saner” more moderate party will be painted as too extreme by today’s modern Democrat party.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
6:50 pm
Wintery Knight
…integrating Christian faith and knowledge in the public square
Yeah, no bias there.
liberal hack
September 25th, 2012
6:52 pm
If you don’t believe in a large Federal budget geared for creating a large safety net and you don’t believe that only the rich should be paying the lions share of this safety net, then you are too extreme for today’s Democratic party…
Doggone/GA
September 25th, 2012
6:52 pm
“We hope and pray our fellow citizens are not crazy enough to re-elect this moron.”
Prayers are ALWAYS answered…but the answer is not always yes
Jay
September 25th, 2012
6:53 pm
“a “saner” more moderate party will be painted as too extreme by today’s modern Democrat party.
Could be.
On the other hand, there’s no need to make it so easy for them to prove it.
Paul
September 25th, 2012
6:54 pm
Hiya Sinkwich!
So it’s MSM’s (MSN? MSNBC?) getting the Pres reelected?
Who knew a station nobody watches had so much power, eh?
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Brosephus
Sinkwich
“Truth hurts Occutards. ”
You just had to write that after a blogger asked if you want to be taken seriously, didn’t you?
Just goes to show you how far the media conspiracy goes, doesn’t it?
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
6:55 pm
Dave
September 25th, 2012
6:49 pm
Agree cometely but for those who act as if there is not bias in the media and that bias is not effecting the type of coverage is living in la la land.
On a side note it seems republicans ain’t the only ones unhappy about their candidates with only 54% being excited about the two choices. While a full 40% are dissatisfied with both candidates.
The lowest level of satisfaction in 20 years. Down from 72% during 08.
http://www.people-press.org/2012/09/24/fewer-satisfied-with-candidates-than-in-any-campaign-since-1992/
getalife
September 25th, 2012
6:55 pm
murdoch’s son is running rw media now but doubt there is any credibility left for him to hack.
liberal hack
September 25th, 2012
6:56 pm
Jay, I can by that last statement….you made at 6:53 pm
Frankly, I wish there was a “conservative party” that wasn’t so darn bent on going to war all the darn time and would be serious about budget cuts…..
Paul
September 25th, 2012
6:56 pm
Brosephus
’scuse the cut and paste.
that end sentence after the Sinkwich response
” Just goes to show you how far the media conspiracy goes, doesn’t it?”
was for you.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
6:57 pm
I still like you filky.
This blog would not be the same without your ilk.
Paul
September 25th, 2012
6:58 pm
liberal hack
It ain’t working.
But keep trying.
It’s moderately entertaining.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
6:58 pm
“You just had to write that after a blogger asked if you want to be taken seriously, didn’t you?”
Believe it or not, I don’t care what you do.
O’bozo says he’s “eye candy.” I’m sure you agree, like Jay and the rest of the liberal MSM (but I repeat myself).
I think he’s eye Ipacec.
liberal hack
September 25th, 2012
7:00 pm
Paul, what are you even talking about? moderately entertaining? please explain…
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
7:01 pm
It seems that Michelle Bachman could have probably pulled the same 47% as Romney.
around that number of males in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6_Zw-96CgE
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:01 pm
‘Frankly, I wish there was a “conservative party” that wasn’t so darn bent on going to war all the darn time and would be serious about budget cuts…..
Yeah. I feel the same way about a duck that lays golden eggs. Neither one of us is likely to get our wish.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:01 pm
Jay
September 25th, 2012
6:50 pm
So do you think you really look at media bias without your own bias?
If you have such a bias are you really credible to speak on such issue?
Paul
September 25th, 2012
7:02 pm
liberal hack 6:56
Okay, that one worked.
midtownguy
September 25th, 2012
7:04 pm
The conservative right panic boils down, in my mind, to one thing. White, male, heterosexual, christians have run this country since its inception and they see that control going away. And they are scared to death.
Paul
September 25th, 2012
7:04 pm
liberal hack 7:00
Your 6:50 and 6:52.
6:56 got you back into the reality orbit.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:04 pm
“So do you think you really look at media bias without your own bias?”
No.
However, I can try, and do try, although in this current job that is not exactly a job requirement. But I know for a fact that most of the professional reporters I know honestly do try to avoid injecting bias into their work. Achieving that goal is probably impossible — we’re all human — but they honestly do try to do so.
That’s my main problem with Fox. They don’t even try, but still like to claim they do.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
7:06 pm
I always knew Mona Charen was a LIBERAL HACK.
Paul
September 25th, 2012
7:07 pm
midtownguy
I think that’s been overdone.
They loved Palin.
They’ve a number of women in the House and the Senate.
A rising star is a nonwhite woman governor.
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
7:07 pm
Kyle Wingnut is a LIBERAL HACK?
Mary Elizabeth
September 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
Paulo 997, 6:43 pm
Exactly, Paulo. As Hillary Clinton said today, or yesterday, there are millionaires of much wealth the world over, but few contribute (significantly) to the well-being of their own countries.
For readers to view from your link:
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“As for social mobility, of the rich countries listed by the OECD, the three in which men’s earnings are most likely to resemble their father’s are, in this order, the UK, Italy and the US. If you are born poor or born rich in these nations, you are likely to stay that way. It is no coincidence that these three countries all promote themselves as lands of unparalleled opportunity.
Equal opportunity, self-creation, heroic individualism: these are the myths that predatory capitalism requires for its political survival.”
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I believe that our nation was built upon equal opportunity, self-creation, and individualism but these traits are becoming rarer in reality as plutocrats are allowed to control the globe. People need to see that authentic truth.
Good evening to all. (Btw, I had a blood pressure scare as a result of interaction on another blog yesterday, so that I will be limiting my responses to others more stringently, again, on all blogs. Nothing personal intended, if anyone should address me, and I do not respond – I may not have even seen your post.)
alittlecommonsense
September 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
McCain ran a very tepid race and lost badly. I wouldn’t make too much out of what he did or didn’t chose to attack Obama on. Actually he attacked Obama on nothing – and you see where that got him.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
7:12 pm
Golden eggs?
One of his very cool novelty songs…
Everybody wants an egg from the golden goose
But no one cares if they’re the one
who kills the golden goose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20cfbT0lktw
midtownguy
September 25th, 2012
7:13 pm
I see your point, Paul. But it seems that the minorities they embrace tend to be atypical of the group they represent. Is Herman Cain a typical black man? Does Palin represent the views of most women? I’ll give you the South Carolina Governor (actually I met her at a conference, quite impressive).
Paul
September 25th, 2012
7:13 pm
Pleasant evening, all -
You libs
September 25th, 2012
7:13 pm
Look, like I was saying on a a thread here the other day, hippies have worked themselves up from selling roach clips and posters in head shops to controlling the fourth estate. This is the ultimate realization of the American Dream, is it not?
Why isn’t everyone happy about this?
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:15 pm
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:04 pm
I can only take your word for that. But having said that many of your colleagues may be making that attempt but they are failing badly.
Would you be willing to say for all of those who do try to put their bias aside, even if they fail, there are many who do use the media with an agenda of bias?
Do you think your industries failure to place their political leanings aside is the reason the trust of the media is at all time highs?
Is it good for our country that 60% feel they cannot trust the media.
A free and honest media is essential to democracy. But it has to be a media we the people can trust. And sadly Jay, you all are not currently trusted.
What is your plan as a member of the media to regain our trust?
Truthteller
September 25th, 2012
7:15 pm
As a lifelong Republican, I have to admit that I do not like Mitt Romney. I never did. No one really does. We have to hold our noses to vote for him. When your own party doesn’t like you very much, it’s hard to win.
Democratic Plantation Dweller
September 25th, 2012
7:16 pm
There is no liberal bias.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
“But I know for a fact that most of the professional reporters I know honestly do try to avoid injecting bias into their work.”
It’s sad they fail so often. But not surprising.
alittlecommonsense
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
It is well known that the media votes and donates approximately 90% to democrats. Why is it such a stretch then to believe that their reporting follows their bias?
This is a sore point with me. The media holds itself up as basically a referee in political battles. If you are going to be a referee, you have to maintain neutrality. Sadly that isn’t the case with the media. We wouldn’t put up with biased judges or ref’s at sporting events. Why is it ok in politics where so much more is at stake?
gm
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
Could it be the man insulted half of the country many of his own party? I guess the media force to say those stupid things.
But wait, he is still winning amoung conservatives white males in the south except the state that has common sense Florida, in key states like Ohio, Pa, Mich white males are droping this idiot, but the bubbas of the south dont care if Mitt had of call them white trash, these brain damage beer drinkers would still vote for him.
Then we wonder why the southern states are dead last in every catagory except college footbal? these conservative poor whites dont care if Mitt tax them to hell, send there sons to war, continue to send their jobs overseas, just be proud we did not vote for the black guy who has are interest, these people deserve what they get”””
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
What is your plan as a member of the media to regain our trust?
Our?
Who granted you the authority to speak for anyone other than yourself?
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:19 pm
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:04 pm
See you show your bias with this……
“That’s my main problem with Fox. They don’t even try, but still like to claim they do.”
See who specifically does not try? That’s a strong accusation! Is it only Fox who you feel doesn’t try?
Do you think you opinion on that could be because you disagree with the message they provide. Thus they must not be trying to be fair and balanced?
alittlecommonsense
September 25th, 2012
7:21 pm
“That’s my main problem with Fox. They don’t even try, but still like to claim they do.”
Do you have the same problem with ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN? They all tilt to the left and deny their bias. We have one network. You have all the others, and 99% of the newspapers and news magazines in the country. You can’t stand that we have one outlet that sees the world our way huh?
Rick
September 25th, 2012
7:21 pm
Little bit of reality here, a pew survey says that 82% of graduates with journalism degrees declared themselves DEMOCRATS. They lean to the left, way to the left. They practically held O’Bummers hand and sang kumbaya around the fire side. They pounce like rapid dogs on anything side by a conservative and try to attack him/her with it. Even if they knew what was intended to be said. The deck is stacked way against the right. And since when is telling the truth wrong, O’Dummer wont tell the truth. But the fact that 47% of Americans did’t pay a dime of taxes is true. And want to bet it’s those 47% percent doing the most complaining. Here’s a fair and equitable idea. How about ONLY those who pay taxes get to vote on how the money gets spent. NOTHING ELSE IS FAIR. Reprobates and welfare denizens, minoritys and people who sneak across the border after dark get to decide how my money is spent, and i have very little say
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
Well 60% do not currently trust the media.
If you are not part of that 60% then you are not included and thus nobody was speaking for you.
But the use of the word our when speaking of a majority is acceptable.
alittlecommonsense
September 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
lol Marty – I guess great minds think alike.
You libs
September 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
Marty Huggins
“What is your plan as a member of the media to regain our trust?”
He would obviously have to start telling you the lies you want to hear.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:23 pm
Democratic Plantation Dweller
September 25th, 2012
7:16 pm
There is no liberal bias.
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Lots of research says you are wrong. But no less entitled to your opinion.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
If you are going to be a referee, you have to maintain neutrality. Sadly that isn’t the case with the media. We wouldn’t put up with biased judges or ref’s at sporting events
because of course refs and judges are never accused of bias or even guilty of it. Why its clear that no ref even watches the sports they ref nor do they have a favorite team. They would never be able to set aside those things in order to be neutral.
While we are at it, of course, men can be completely neutral when it comes to women issues. They would never show a bias.
In life, we of course know that only them liberals in the media have biases.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
Marty, all I can do is do my job as honestly as I can. Faith in all American institutions is faltering, from churches to Congress to the press to corporate America.
Personally, I lost more faith in my profession during the runup to the invasion of Iraq than I ever thought possible. That wasn’t an instance of bias, but rather a case of deference to power and a reluctance to state the truth that many saw but few dared utter.
I was honestly shocked by that, and deeply disappointed.
Again, bias is a human reality that will never be eradicated. And readers and viewers are correct to look at everything skeptically and to double-check it against other sources.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:25 pm
You libs
September 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
That is your opinion.
However polls would show you to be wrong since the distrust goes across the political board.
I do not need to be lied to, but would appreciate waaaaay less spin out of the media. Regardless of who or what their bias is.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
7:25 pm
“What is your plan as a member of the media to regain our trust?”
No plan, Mary.
Their worldview is aligned with “Bumpy Roads” O’bozo’s mission to destroy American exceptionalism. The desire is to turn this great nation into something less than the Unitied States of France.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
7:26 pm
Lots of research says you are wrong.
And who tell you that? The liberal media…… why its all part of the conspiracy. Remember its catch-22
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
7:26 pm
The national media is by and large, a pro-war, pro-corporation public relations arm for the United States government. That does its damnedest to hide the white collar crime syndicate that pays it way. On Wall Street, on K Street, at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and on Capital Hill.
That the Republicans whine endlessly about it being liberal is indicative of their collective vast mental illness…
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:26 pm
But the use of the word our when speaking of a majority is acceptable
Not to me, sport.
It’s a linguistic sleight-of-hand parlor tick used by talk-radio.
You were not granted authority to speak for any 60%.
Mama Says
September 25th, 2012
7:27 pm
Jay,
It’s an absolute fact thatthe media is occupied by a large majority of the more liberally inclined. We all know that.
Now if you accept that fact then you would understand that intentional or not they would be more inclined to look more closely at a conservative canidate.
Look a liberal knows what a liberal thinks, that being the case they would not be inclined to ask Obama anything critical about his policy positions, they understand the thinking. Since they are not conservatives I would think they are not conservative minded. Therefore it stands to reason they would be more critical or more dubious of any conservative plan. That leads to asking more detailed questions.
There is no way anyone in this country can say the country is less liberal in general than it has been. Our parents would have never discussed gay rights, religious orginizations would have never thought about handing out birth control and budget deficits this size would have been an impeachment issue.
So lets be real for a moment, can we ? You are a living example of media bias and you know there are more of you at AJC than more of me.
By the way since when isn’t it headline news that a presidential canidate hung out with someone who blew up a police station in an act of public defiance ? How much did you cover it ?
I do believe the Wright issue was taken out of context and the birth certificate issue is stupid to even discuss now. BUT why don’t we verify the citizenry of our canidates ? Isn’t that common logic ?
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
7:28 pm
Paul
I think I’m gonna have to bookmark that post for future reference. That one was the blue whale of lies there.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
7:28 pm
Rick or anyone else
Pick a non editorial article from today’s AJC and dissect the “liberal bias” for us.
Would ask you to present substantiated facts and not your opinion as to the bias.
Thanks
Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common
September 25th, 2012
7:29 pm
Rick
EVERYBODY PAYS TAXES.
The STOOPID IT BURNS.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:31 pm
“But the fact that 47% of Americans did’t pay a dime of taxes is true.
No, it isn’t. Not by any stretch of the imagination is that true. And in the eyes of some, by saying so I have betrayed a bias. Very well. It still isn’t true.
What IS true is that 47 percent of Americans didn’t pay one particular type of tax, a federal income tax. They paid a lot of other federal taxes. Other taxpayers who collected all their income in capital gains paid no payroll taxes.
In fact, percentage-wise, that 47 percent typically pay a lot more of their income in the form of state and local taxes than do the more affluent.
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
7:31 pm
It’s an absolute fact thatthe media is occupied by a large majority of the more liberally inclined. We all know that.
Sounds like conservatives might wanna start steering little Jimmy and Suzie into journalism instead of making them think the only way to success is to work on Wall Street.
The problem is, when you do such a great job of painting intellect and learning as “liberal”, how are you going to get any modern day conservative to go for such a thing?
You libs
September 25th, 2012
7:31 pm
Global Warming is a Hoax.
That’s just one of many examples I could give. The National Academy of Science, the advisory committee that was set up by Abraham Lincoln to advise our government on matters of science, has validated the findings of the IPCC for years. The Academies of every other developed nation have also issued statements of support for those findings.
The media, under pressure from the right-wing noise machine, treats this like it is some kind of controversy among scientists. The message has been controlled by the right for years now, but it started with the false accusation that the media supports the left.
It used to support the truth.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
7:32 pm
VANDALIA, Ohio — Mitt Romney said Tuesday that President Obama did not raise taxes during his first term, contradicting a constant attack he has leveled on Obama — that his healthcare plan was a tax increase.
“I admit this, he has one thing he did not do in his first four years — he’s said he’s going to do in the next four years — which is to raise taxes. And is there anyone who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? No!” Romney told thousands gathered at a chilly tarmac rally. “His plan is to continue what he’s done before. The status quo has not worked. We cannot afford four more years of Barack Obama. We’re not going to have four more years of Barack Obama.”
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With the base in his camp, the push for the middle & independents is now on. Full court press
gm
September 25th, 2012
7:34 pm
Lets not forget the witch looking Ann Coulter, wow wha a bigot, and then you have high school drop out Rush Limbaugh and 3 times college drop out Sean Hannity these scum baggs dont reports facts or news all they do is take insults at the President of the United States.
These people and their low misinformed viewers are the reason the rep party have jumped off the cliff.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:26 pm
It is a fact that 60% when polled claimed to not trust the media.
I would include myself in agreement with that 60%.
They have already spoke to the fact they do not trust the media. I was simply jumping on the bandwagon and including myself.
Do you see the 60% has already spoke for themselves on the issue. By the use of the word our I am simply including myself with them.
So I am not speaking for anyone as they have already spoke!
Seems you listen to waaaaay too much talk radio..
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
Do you think you opinion on that could be because you disagree with the message they provide. Thus they must not be trying to be fair and balanced?
Actually, no, I don’t. Their bias is conscious and well-designed, and it is also glaringly obvious. They have made a market decision to appeal to a relatively small segment of the market, and they do it very well. In business terms, it’s brilliant.
MSNBC seems to have copied their approach but applied it to the left. Most other mass-market news outlets continue to try to reach a broad audience and so attempt to avoid as much bias as possible. When bias does appear — and it certainly does — it is a mistake and a lapse, as opposed to a calculated marketing approach.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
“That the Republicans whine endlessly about it being liberal is indicative of their collective vast mental illness…”
I already proved the MSM was a bunch of lib ilks like you, Jammie.
Please try to keep current.
Thanks.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
7:37 pm
Sinkwich
Pick the article and dissect it for us………
Mama Says
September 25th, 2012
7:37 pm
Oh yeah,
I don’t blame the media I think for the most part Americans assume they are not being told the entire story. However I do blame Romney for being soft. He should stand up and firmly say that if 47% of the citizens don’t pay taxes then 47% are dependent on the government. If those are the actual numbers. Either way he should tell the people in a TV add what the actual number is and then explain how much that actually cost this country.
Then he should tell all you libs to get over it.
We all know he wasn’t being critical of social security recipients nor was it a shot at minorities since we all also know those recipients are vastly white. It was a statement of fact. He can forget the votes of those people who either factually will loose those benefits or those who don’t know the facts and think they will.
It would be the same as Obama telling his donors that they can forget the southern white male vote. It’s a simple fact. You know those that would have to have heir guns prayed from their hands.
MeetTheFullCourtPress
September 25th, 2012
7:38 pm
Can anyone tell me when and where the Media meet to gameplan how to derail Romney? It must happen sometime, somewhere.
Republicans———Just children arguing on the playground. Never grew up. Nothing more. Pathetic.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:38 pm
Do you see the 60% has already spoke for themselves on the issue. By the use of the word our I am simply including myself with them.
Sophistry.
You have nothing rational, just rationalizing.
You libs
September 25th, 2012
7:41 pm
I’ve never seen anyone pray a gun from somebody’s hands, but if it gets results, I’m all for it.
Mama Says
September 25th, 2012
7:42 pm
Bro,
I have never directed my son into finances or Wall St.
I have told him to do what makes him happy, and to work hard at whatever that may be.
I believe you just engaged in profiling my friend
getalife
September 25th, 2012
7:43 pm
Pssst, it is corporate media.
I watch cnn anchors giggle about the gop’s behavior towards our President.
They give the gop a free pass. I post on their threads that they took a dive for the gop.
Many other Americans do too. It is very obvious.
Mama Says
September 25th, 2012
7:43 pm
Yeah I knew as soon as I saw my post you would jump the pray thing.
Oh we’ll you got the point
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
All that liberal bias and no one is able to take a non editorial AJC article and factually dissect it and present that bias
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Got ya
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
7:45 pm
I know, it is there…………… hidden within between the lines and sheets
Mama Says
September 25th, 2012
7:46 pm
As a conservative I can also admit this. I an sick of hearing republicans saying Obama is a partisan.
Our party has made him a target ever since he was elected. But I am also sick of hearing the libs cite that as something new.
The out party always has targeted the sitting president for defeat. That’s one of the things that make them opposing parties
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
7:47 pm
I believe you just engaged in profiling my friend
And I didn’t say you personally did that, did I? However, it is glaringly obvious that the conservative movement has a love jones for business and finances.
My point was, if you complain about liberal bias in media, then you respond by getting more legitimate conservative voices in media.
Honestly, the whole liberal media bias is pure BS if you as me. Conservatives dominate talk radio, media. Conservatives have their own mainstream pundits, media. You have numerous internet outlets, media. As jconservative posted earlier, it’s laughable that people cry about media bias when previous conservatives have won election with no problem. Maybe, it’s time to look at what you’re peddling as opposed to who’s biased.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
7:48 pm
I already proved…
Proof in FrankBurnsville is simply to proclaim something proven without the first shred of empirical, verifiable data, evidence or facts.
Is it any wonder that you idgits stand alone, along with the North Koreans, against the rest of humanity on the subject of anthropogenic climate change?
No, it is no wonder at all.
And your anti-intellectualism is one of the reasons that American Jews vote so overwhelmingly against you.
You can look it up.
G Mare
September 25th, 2012
7:48 pm
Mary Elizabeth, as I know you know, nobody on any blog is worth endangering your health. Please be assured that some of us appreciate your intelligent, well-written comments. And then there are others of us who are ignorant & nasty by nature. I have pretty much figured out who they are on this blog & scroll past their comments. Also seldom go to Kyle’s – the nasty just reeks & rants &
reigns there, seemingly despite Kyle’s efforts toward civility. Take care, Honey.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
“When bias does appear — and it certainly does — it is a mistake and a lapse, as opposed to a calculated marketing approach.”
Tis sad it occurs almost hourly…
Mama Says
September 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
Both,
Facts can be facts but with a voice infliction or. Eye roll it be presented as BS.
Try reading the political cartoons in this paper, you will know real quick which way the wind blows downtown
Don Abernethy
September 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
I wonder why conservatives complain about the media?. Could it be they are very liberal and promote Obama every chance they get?? Could it be they want the country to drown in debt?? Does the government send checks to the liberals in the media?? Is there one, just one, who is a christian??
You libs
September 25th, 2012
7:50 pm
Sorry, mama, I just couldn’t resist.
It’s that liberal spelling bias thing.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
7:52 pm
The last time the mainstream media was even close to objectivity was WW II ……….. and the government had to force most of that via censorship.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:52 pm
Try reading the political cartoons in this paper…
There’s your sign.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
7:53 pm
Oh goody, Senior Digits is here to demonstrate the non-bias objective WND media coverage.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
7:53 pm
Hey Jay:
How about a thread on MARTA tomorrow?
Headline (AJC): “Audit: MARTA spends $50M too much, should privatize some functions”
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
7:54 pm
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
With someone in a background in reporting one would think you would have some type of evidence that they intentionally include bias into their reporting.
It’s one thing to have a bias but your accusation is they intentionally incorporate their bias.
Do you have any knowledge of this or is it your opinion?
It seems odd to me that you and your friends do the very best you can to avoid bias in your reporting, but not those guys at fox or Msnbc don’t.
Also I wonder why Foxs ratings are so high if they are only catering to a small group.
Why does CNN do so bad when as you say any and all bias on their behalf is by accident
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm
“When bias does appear — and it certainly does — it is a mistake and a lapse, as opposed to a calculated marketing approach.”
Why is this bias always LIBERAL?
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm
The last time the mainstream media was even close to objectivity was WW II ……….. and the government had to force most of that via censorship.
And, in spite of all that, how many conservatives have been elected president since WWII?
Why hide behind the excuse of media bias and ignore the idea that your candidate just isn’t what America wants?
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm
“I wonder why conservatives complain about the media?. Could it be they are very liberal and promote Obama every chance they get??
Maybe.
It could also be that conservatives need some way to avoid the ugly realization that their message simply isn’t that popular.
Even with the billions of dollars being dumped into ads, etc., by wealthy conservatives, their message still just isn’t getting through?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm
Try reading the political cartoons in this paper…
So political cartoons are suppose to be unbiased?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
7:57 pm
“MSNBC seems to have copied their approach but applied it to the left. Most other mass-market news outlets continue to try to reach a broad audience and so attempt to avoid as much bias as possible”
You’re right about MSNBC of course, but in general this whole discussion is missing the point, which is that the most mainstream media organizations, including the two major national newspapers the WaPo and NY Times, are heavily biased, but not towards any particular party per se. They are biased towards the political ruling establishment, and in particular towards the status quo of foreign policy as dictated by the national security elite. Although the NY Times can be pretty bad in its own right, they all pale in comparison to the war-drum beating Washington Post.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
7:58 pm
Accurate & Balanced Reporting ? Accurate, Compelling and Complete?
How about Biased, Boring and Babel !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KauE9tQw8k8 (Talk about SPIN !)
West Indian Charlie
September 25th, 2012
7:59 pm
GM, don”t give up on the bubbas of the south at
least not yet.
According to a new Zogby poll, Obama leads Romney 49 to 42 percent among NASCAR enthusiasts. This is a traditionally conservative constituency with lots of bubbas.
Come November they will get drunk as hell and pull the lever for the black guy. Of course they will keep it a secret or blame it on the alcohol. There is hope.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
7:59 pm
Why is this bias always LIBERAL?
Maybe because, if you look at the world from a VERY conservative position, as you clearly do, everything will of course seem liberal.
Or does that make too much sense?
getalife
September 25th, 2012
7:59 pm
I think drudgey is biased and Americans do not believe a republican will help the middle class. It does not pass the smell test.
For conservatives, it’s ‘Blame the media!’ time – Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) | Conservatives for America
September 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
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JamVet
September 25th, 2012
8:04 pm
Also I wonder why Foxs ratings are so high…
For the same reason that non-political Tard TV (vacuous and vapid sitcoms and titillating night time soap operas) is so popular.
Though not alone, huge numbers of you Republicans, simply put, are addicted to the worst of the worst on the boob tube. And the more intellectual and scientific it is (PBS, GPB, Discovery, etc.) the more you hate it.
Two great books that I bought back in the mental malaise of the 1980s Reagan era, addressed this sad evolution – Cultural Illiteracy and The Closing of the American Mind.
Read them at your own peril…
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
8:06 pm
Jay: ““When bias does appear — and it certainly does — it is a mistake and a lapse, as opposed to a calculated marketing approach.”
Actually this is not quite true. In (partial) defense of our Bro Sinkwich, what is at issue here is the structural bias of the mainstream press that is manifestly there, not the occasional slip-ups and lapses. The reason there is bias in the press is that some sort of bias is inevitable. The press has to have some coherency of perspective, otherwise it would not be able to present the news in any kind of coherent and compelling way. It could not even attempt be a reliable moderator and mediator, and instead would just an aggregator of news.
Where the right wing is wrong of course is to assume that because they HAVE a perspective and that perspective does not coincide with theirs in every respect, therefore they are biased AGAINST them. In reality, the press is, as I said above, biased towards a certain understanding of the national interest that is heavily influenced by the Beltway establishment consensus.
Jay
September 25th, 2012
8:06 pm
Jamvet, that’s a little over the top. Seriously.
lefty_316
September 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
In his new book The Party Is Over lifetime republican Mike Lufgren slams the media, and rightly so.
With the exception of McClatchy the media completely failed to do their job checking into the lies and garbage Bush-Cheney dispensed as reasons for the Iraq war. Lies and garbage that has cost us in the trillions and for what? An Iraq that has basically become an Iranian satellite nation.
Brosephus™
September 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
I’m bowing out early. I think somebody just opened the gate @ 8:02 and no telling what’s coming through.
Y’all have fun!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
……………….. and let’s not forget Government T.V. ……….. aka “Public Broadcasting”.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:09 pm
……….. and why are journalists are their lowest approval rating ever ???
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:10 pm
Excuse me: “journalists at their lowest”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:13 pm
“Ralph Nader calls president ‘war criminal’… ”
Now that’s a little strong even for Ralph.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
8:15 pm
Jay, the T word is one that I am loathe to use and almost never do, but it works so well with the word TV!
Mea culpa to those I offended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISTSUoXpDq4
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:16 pm
“Piers Morgan Charmed by Ahmadinejad”
Just one reason why liberal journalists are so often biased ………….. they’re “charmed” by evil.
St Simons
September 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
a billion dollars of dirty money couldn’t buy 3.01%
hell, i’d want to blame somebody too, heheh
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
8:20 pm
Marty Huggins: Also I wonder why Foxs ratings are so high if they are only catering to a small group.”
That’s an easy one. As we know going all the way back to Plato a couple of millennia ago, if not uch earlier, nothing’s more profitable and “popular” in the crassest sense than flattering the intellectual laziness, myths, and prejudices of the masses. It proves NOTHING as to the truth value of the message being peddled.
“Why does CNN do so bad when as you say any and all bias on their behalf is by accident”
One reason CNN is doing poorly is that the “flattery” model of demagoguery mentioned above is being increasingly exploited by both right (FOX) and now left (MSNBC) to draw viewers away from what used to pass for an intellectual engagement with the issues to an air-brushed selective presentation of the events tailored to rile up the faithful of either side by air-brushing the warts of each side’s particular leaders.
The classical “objective” media model is increasingly under threat by these partisan models, but CNN thinks it can address the crisis in a cynical manner (hiring extremists from the right with no integrity to mimic FOX) instead of rethinking the weaknesses of the original “objective media” model in some serious way.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
I think the current crop of NFL officials should just walk away. Why take the grief.
The NFL right now is basically what it was BEFORE instant reply. Big deal.
Wilbur
September 25th, 2012
8:23 pm
Jay the media has been proving its self unreliable and biased for a generation. Ever since Cronkite came out from behind the desk, we have gotten steady diet of advocacy journalism. I know it sucks to have people see the truth but no one trusts the media any more. The AJC is a case in point as market share falls like a stone, year after year.
The media deserves the condemnation it is getting.
Randy Ayn
September 25th, 2012
8:25 pm
So, the liberal media forced Mitt on the GOP. Was that a “legitimate” or “illegitimate” rape?
Don't Tread
September 25th, 2012
8:27 pm
No bias in the media. Riiiiight. Rathergate didn’t happen either.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
Rathergate
One event for which people were fired is of course complete evidence of so much bias. So when were those Fox shows cancelled like Hannity?
Fred ™
September 25th, 2012
8:31 pm
Really Jay? THREE today? Couldn’t you have saved this one and trotted it out early tomorrow? I mean I will have waked up, made and drank coffee, gone to work out, come back, showered, eaten breakfast and taken a nap before you throw something out tomorrow………….. Can’t you hold one back, set the alarm clock (or set the auto post) post it and THEN go back to bed to sleep until noon? I think you’ve got too much time on your hands…………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcKBmdfpWs
Ahem
September 25th, 2012
8:33 pm
Barack Obama is a good man. He is trying hard. He’s just not very good at this job.
Obama is a nice guy; he is just not very good at his job.
Obama is doing his best. His best just isn’t good enough
Barack Obama is a pleasant enough fellow. But, he’s just not very good at being President of the United States.
Old Timer
September 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
When I was in college—way back in the 60s—the journalism courses I took always stressed objectivity. A reporter was to stress the facts. Opinion was to be left to the editorial pages. A paper stressed the most important happenings of the day, and not because those happenings made one political side or the other look good or bad. The reader was left with the facts and the opportunity to form conclusions.
Somewhere along the way that all changed. Now one publication views its “famous liberal bias” as a selling point. Other, equally strident conservative publications use news reporting as an opportunity to push political points. On both sides of the aisle, even the news selected to be reported is chosen for its political value. We all know who these publications are. Within the past 30 years or so, news publications have been dedicated to palliating the faithful. It all has become so ridiculously hypocritical that some have resorted to making the old credo a selling point—Fair and Balanced comes to mind.
What the hell happened in the past 50 years? My sole conclusion is that politics has become a blood sport, so powerful that it now dominates even the news we receive.
Fred ™
September 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
Don’t Tread
September 25th, 2012
8:27 pm
No bias in the media. Riiiiight. Rathergate didn’t happen either.
+++++++++++++++++
Dan Rather was an unmitigated lying asshat. What is your point? The fact that he was a lying asshol…….. um anus excuses any lying from the right?
I don’t get it? Isn’t that kindergarten thinking?
Fred ™
September 25th, 2012
8:36 pm
Old Timer
September 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
When I was in college—way back in the 60s—the journalism courses I took always stressed objectivity.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Really? Did they just blip over the far right wing bias (Hearst) during the McCarthy years? Or are you too simple to know what I’m talking about?
Fred ™
September 25th, 2012
8:37 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:16 pm
“Piers Morgan Charmed by Ahmadinejad”
Just one reason why liberal journalists are so often biased ………….. they’re “charmed” by evil.
+++++++++++++++++++++
Not always, I’ve yet to see one sing the praises of that lying devil Rush Limbaugh……….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 25th, 2012
8:39 pm
Ahem:
On that one we must disagree.
Obama knows EXACTLY what he is doing ………… and that’s what’s scary.
Orange12
September 25th, 2012
8:40 pm
“For conservatives, it’s ‘Blame the media!’ time”
“Yer durn tootin”! Jay, you hit the nail right on the head.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
8:41 pm
Mitt Romney is a pleasant enough fellow. But, he’s just a terrible candidate for President of the United States.
And unfit to lead.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm
A true American speaks:
“Florida Rep. Allen West ripped President Barack Obama’s United Nations speech Tuesday, saying he would have told the U.N. that America would be an “Angel of Death” that wreaks “havoc and destruction” on anyone who attacks the U.S. “My statement to the United Nations would have been, ‘The future does not belong to those who attack our Embassies and Consulates and kill our Ambassadors. The Angel of Death in the form of an American Bald Eagle will visit you and wreak havoc and destruction upon your existence,’” the Florida congressman wrote in a Facebook post Tuesday.”
And “Bumpy Roads” O’bozo can’t even utter the words “Islamic terrorism” to those UN dictators and America haters. He just apologizes and appeases…
scott
September 25th, 2012
8:47 pm
Jay…Damn you are dumb.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
8:47 pm
Mama Says
I guess you were not able or unwilling to locate that non editorial article……….
psst: let you in on a little secret……… the cartoons are animated editorials………..
Thomas heyward Jr
September 25th, 2012
8:49 pm
“For conservatives, it’s ‘Blame the media!’ time”
.
Mitt Romney and the above mentioned………..are about as conservative as…………………………
.
Barrack Obama and his Bookman sycophants are……………………………liberal.
.
Romney/Obama supporters are nothing but Generic collective Statists.
Absolutely NOT intectually capable of even approaching a “conservative” or “liberal” idealogy.
They’re frightened followers.
Pleading for a leader.
.
Dime a dozen on the world market.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
8:49 pm
I don’t think it is a good idea for corporate media to party with pols and kiss their behinds .
I don’t think corporate media should pal around with pols getting unlimited donations.
I think they should report the truth and keep their biased opinions to themselves.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
8:50 pm
Damn, not one non editorial article could the right leaning contingency find from the commie AJC…………
Really?
Orange12
September 25th, 2012
8:51 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/reid-romney-not-face-mormonism/
Do you libs actually claim this guy. First he was claiming Romney didn’t pay taxes, and now this.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
8:51 pm
Thomas
Tell Ron Paul and Alex Jones that I said hello
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
8:52 pm
Orange12
Reid is a dufus. I have said that numerous times.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
8:52 pm
“Why is this bias always LIBERAL?
Maybe because, if you look at the world from a VERY conservative position, as you clearly do, everything will of course seem liberal.”
C’mon Jay. There exists no, as in zero, zip, nada conservative bias EVER at ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, WaPo, NY Times, AJC, etc.
If you show me ANY example, I would be shocked.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
8:53 pm
scott…Damn you are persuasive.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
8:53 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:38 pm
I don’t understand why you feel the need to be such a d1ck but hey ya your choice.
Would it have been better if I asked what Jay plans to do to get the trust back of the 60% who do not trust the media?
Would that have essentially change the context of the question I asked?
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
8:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NmQswZk9qA
getalife
September 25th, 2012
8:56 pm
Orange12,
It is pretty obvious, those two Mormons don’t get along.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm
Jam
Jam on this Steely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQqhqbrXhI
What a tune?
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUtZ2J6rNDw&feature=related
getalife
September 25th, 2012
9:02 pm
filky,
Do you watch cnn?
wolfie apologized for asking dan senor about Dowd’s piece on neocons slithering back with romney.
dan said it was not worthy of comment and wolfie said yes and laughed.
There ya go.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
9:02 pm
BOTH, good call and great Dan.
The endless con whining (Everybody is out to get us!!!) gets old.
Another great Dan…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8C7bupfY9s
barking frog
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
All government blames the
media at some point except
the SCOTUS and they just
ignore it.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
Would that have essentially change the context of the question I asked?
Yes.
This has been another episode of one word answers to a simple(ton’s) question.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
Those test tubes and the scale
Just get them all out of here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGr6knsm8t0
Adam
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
GOP after election day: “They sampled too many Democrats!!!”
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:08 pm
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
8:04 pm
That’s a fine piece you put out there.
Only problems it’s full of lies, conjecture, and outright speculation.
For your information as to not make yourself look like a disseminator of false information. If you care about that sort of thing.
Me personally I do not watch too much news. Can honestly say in MY home I have never watched Fox, or Msnbc, watched CNN once by accident for a while. Must admit my wife watches Nancy Grace’s crazy self.
Now I do watch channel 4 news in the AM here in the ATL.
But I don’t watch PBS or any of the other outlets you mention.
Guess I don’t like people telling me what the news is. I guess I would rather read it myself.
Now carry on with your elitist attitude and have a nice day.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmw3MINdaTw&feature=related
back at you
Jam: Not one person was willing to present one non editorial article and dissect it for the “liberal bias” yet they all claim it is there…….
WOW……….. willful ignorance and even stupidity is a shame
I have only brought up hat challenge 5 or 6 times since I have been on this blog. Not one person has ever replied. EVER
If it was so prevalent, it should not be too difficult. Guess they need that talk radio (that they don’t listen to) to tell them when it is there and how much of it exists.
TaxPayer
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
Wow! Conservatives just see liberal everywhere they look. Except the mirror. That’s their one and only truly safe place. Wait! What’s that! The mirror was made in Iran. And it was made to make what is reflected look like it is conservative. Be paranoid, conservatives. Be vewwwwwy paranoid.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
9:11 pm
Where do you read your news Marty?
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:12 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
How?
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
9:14 pm
“Only problems it’s full of lies, conjecture, and outright speculation.”
That’s Jammie’s raison d’être.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:14 pm
Adam
That is funny
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
F. Sinkwich: “There exists no, as in zero, zip, nada conservative bias EVER at ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, WaPo, NY Times, AJC, etc.”
As I explained, there is barely any outlet as war-mongering as the Washington Post, a place where every rumor and half-baked rationale for why we should join the Netanyahu/Likud party line in justifying a pre-emptive attack on Iran is breezily aired right from the mouthpiece of the editorial page.
The views expressed on such matters dovetail nicely with some of the more warlike right wing views expressed here as we saw in the previous thread.
As for the New York Times, while it is certainly not as breathless in its rush to justify war adventures like Iraq, it’s not far behind the WaPo, especially when you consider the platform it gives warmongers like Thomas Friedman.
So, if you don’t think that there is any “conservative” opinion represented by any of the MSM outlets in this country, that just goes to show how little you know about how the media really works.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
channel 4 news in ATL? Hmmmmm… sounds elite. Must be a private station.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
9:16 pm
Keep Reid and Romney.
Give me Anderson and Hunstman. (A thinking man’s Mormons.)
Marty, see my 8:15…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS8BaYxkRbc
Doggone/GA
September 25th, 2012
9:16 pm
“Also I wonder why Foxs ratings are so high if they are only catering to a small group”
Fox News is the #1 CABLE news network. Cable viewership of news is tiny compared to network news. Being #1 of a small segment only counts as “high” in a small way.
Mary Elizabeth
September 25th, 2012
9:17 pm
G Mare, 7:48 pm
Thank you for your kindness.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:17 pm
Sink
Any problems dissecting that non editorial article for liberal bias?
hahahahahaha
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba_nYP6e_JE
Tap Out
September 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
“Whine, cry, complain, point fingers, accuse”, seems to be the motto of the GOP. I’m way to masculine and hard to be a republican.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
getalife
September 25th, 2012
9:11 pm
A variety of sources actually. I am sure you will show me how they are awful and biased as well.
I usually read my news from online sources. I have found the paper editions outdated and a waste of trees.
I start my day off by checking 3 sites daily, BBC news online, then usually the AP, followed by Consortium news(picked it up in college).
Then thru the day I visit the usual suspects of ABC news, CBS news and a sprinkle of CNN. Occasionally I check out Reuters.
Is there any other questions you would like answered about me Ms. Couric?
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
Doggone
It is like saying you placed 1st in the time trials after the medals have already been handed out for the actual event
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:23 pm
Doggone/GA
September 25th, 2012
9:16 pm
Agreed, I was simply using the examples Jay had given to me.
Stonewall
September 25th, 2012
9:23 pm
One side says “Blame the Media”, the other side says “Blame Bush”. When will it end?? Blame both sides. As the Prince in Romeo and Juliet said “A plague on both our houses. All are punished.”
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:25 pm
Sink
And yes Bookman is biased, just as Wingfield is……….. Maddow, Hanitty, Limbaugh, Shultz, Olberman, Boortz, Krautehimer (misspelled)
Now, how about that non editorial article?
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq8OU-7JDFA&feature=related
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
The one song that more than any other got me through those gawdawful George W. Bush years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_XiffXlDao&feature=related
bman
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
I haven’t watched any news in years. If I were to watch, which one is the most balanced?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
9:29 pm
bman — try SNL Weekend update.
F. Sinkwich
September 25th, 2012
9:30 pm
“Any problems dissecting that non editorial article for liberal bias?”
Look, SUCK, it’s been proven to all except the pea-brained that the MSM has a lib ilk bias, through and through.
If you refuse to accept that, that’s a you problem.
I’m not about to waste time once again substantiating the obvious. Next you’ll challenge me to prove the sun rises in the east.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:25 pm
I do not read the columns in the AJC. So I cannot claim they have a bias either way.
It does appear that Julia Wallace( the editor of the paper) did see some type of bias.
And if she didn’t see a bias then she created one by responding to a bias that was not there.
http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/03/10/atlanta-paper-responds-concerns-about-bias-becomes-fairer
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCWVuCCWqzQ&feature=related
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
Marty
Not asking for a survey but your or another blogger’s analysis.
You are welcome to pick the NY Times, Washington Post or whatever………
Just not an editorial
Thanks
Steve Shamrock
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
Jay…you really need to layoff the maryjane…you are truly delusional.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
9:34 pm
I haven’t watched any news in years.
You and me.
What is most perplexing to me is how people can turn on and listen to hate radio first thing in the morning. That one I’ll never figure out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGNdpnYYEkQ
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:34 pm
Sink
Thanks for your concession and inability to prove what you state without quoting another source…………..
woodstockmimi
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
In reply to Sinkwich at 8:42 p.m.:
“…condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. …are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
“Our response is to say that while we certainly don’t agree with, support, or in some cases, we condemn the views that are aired in public that are published in media organizations around the world, we, at the same time, defend the right of those individuals to express their views. For us, freedom of expression is at the core of our democracy and it is something that we have shed blood and treasure around the world to defend and we will continue to do so. That said, there are other aspects to democracy, our democracy — democracies around the world — and that is to promote understanding, to promote respect for minority rights, to try to appreciate the differences that may exist among us.”
Sinkwich, please tell me which of those statements is an apology or appeasement.
Steve Shamrock
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Jay….this blog is almost as ridiculous as when you played the race card and got a serious beat down. Remember that.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
It is there because Boortz, Newsbusters, Fox, Limbaugh, etc said it is, isn’t using one’s own brain to prove what they claim to be true
If they said jumping off buildings is good for you, would you do it?
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
9:41 pm
Every non editorial article has a worldview behind it whether it be a Liberal or Conservative article. No serious person can deny the existence of liberal bias among the MSM. The press works almost in tandem with the Obama campaign to advance its arguments and downplay its candidate’s mistakes and shortcomings. Media bias is nothing new. It has been demonstrated in studies ranging over at least the last thirty years that the press leans decisively to the left. Just last year, Professor Tim Groseclose — no conservative — argued convincingly that media bias typically aids Democrats by 8-10 points in a typical election. It’s not as big a conspiracy as many conservatives think, it’s just the way most of the MSM believe and they report accordingly. After Watergate, the tone of journalism changed from reporting from the sidelines to being in the game.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
9:42 pm
Yeah Marty, one more question.
Why are you lying?
You just posted newsbusters
You read rw garbage..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
Poor Marty, working so hard to claim he is above the bias and then citing newsbusters as a source….right up there with that TV station broadcasting all the way to Roswell.
G Mare
September 25th, 2012
9:44 pm
Mary Elizabeth, you are welcome. Apropos of nothing, the first of my double name is Mary &
I have a sister named Elizabeth. I don’t know if it is a catholic or a Southern thing – my sisters & I have double names. Sister #2 & I got shortened to Mare & Dee. Elizabeth was called Libby until, in adulthood, she opted for Elizabeth. As I said, apropos of nothing on this blog topic which seems to be going in the usual directions. SIGH. I am SO ready for the debates & the election TO BE OVER!
Okay, can’t resist: OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:44 pm
Liberal Pariah
Then you will dissect the non editorial of your choosing, right?
Jay
September 25th, 2012
9:45 pm
Jay….this blog is almost as ridiculous as when you played the race card and got a serious beat down. Remember that.
No, Steve. But I guess we can add that to your other right-wing fantasies.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
Jay
Can you help these folks out? I have presented the challenge numerous times and all I get is what someone has been told or some survey.
Seems that something so prevalent and obvious would not be that difficult to demonstrate unless the individual really doesn’t know it for a fact, but has willfully decided to believe whatever they have been told or read………. almost like programming or brainwashing……..
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
9:49 pm
Arthur Brisbane as he left the NYT observed this: ‘When The Times covers a national presidential campaign, I have found that the lead editors and reporters are disciplined about enforcing fairness and balance, and usually succeed in doing so. Across the paper’s many departments, though, so many share a kind of political and cultural progressivism — for lack of a better term — that this worldview virtually bleeds through the fabric of The Times.
As a result, developments like the Occupy movement and gay marriage seem almost to erupt in The Times, overloved and undermanaged, more like causes than news subjects.’
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfOB8ANdWU&feature=related
Meanwhile...
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
The majority of Americans (60%) also continue to perceive bias, with 47% saying the media are too liberal and 13% saying they are too conservative, on par with what Gallup found last year.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/149624/Majority-Continue-Distrust-Media-Perceive-Bias.aspx
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
LP
So you have that article or will you continue to rely on right wing websites or others sources?
It is that blatant, right?
G Mare
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
Jay@9:45,
!
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
Got a feeling no matter what I put up you are going to disagree. So what is the point. But against. Y better judgement. I will give it a run.
This is what popped up when I typed in “examples of media bias” this is the first link.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/top-50-examples-liberal-media-bias/
Quick examples off top of my head the Wall Street Journal and AP both claimed 18000 to be at an event in Wisconsin. With the AP even claiming it was the largest crowd this campaign season.
But it appears that the venue the Henry Maier Festival Park only holds about 5000 and worse I believe a local news showed footage of the event and it was not even full to capacity.
Why and or how would they exaggerate that much.
Now it’s your turn to tell me where I have errors and where all of the top 50 are wrong.
Joe the Prophet
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
It never fails to amaze me how Ralph Reed and his bunch, Faith and Freedom Coalition, support a polygamous, polytheitic cultist for President………
Even worse is how easily they sacrifice America’s well-being as a country for their ideological causes….
I’m thinking maybe those days are over, for a very long time…..
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
Here’s 50 examples:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/top-50-examples-liberal-media-bias/
I know you won’t like the source but the facts are there though you are probably too ideologically blinded to see it. Jay did a great job of filling up a blog with a non issue. There is no debate, the MSM has a Liberal bias due to the worldview of those who work in it.
From Boortz (look at the message!!!)
September 25th, 2012
9:53 pm
While media bias has always existed, the American public seems to finally be realizing what I’ve realized for a while now: the ObamaMedia is in the tank for Barack Obama (hence the label, the ObamaMedia). This bias has become incredibly blatant because the ObamaMedia feels the need to defend itself, because it is largely responsible for the election of Barack Obama in 2008. His failure is their failure, so they will do what they can to make sure that he does not fail in November.
This bias comes in many forms. Here are just a few examples from the last few days …
CBS Doesn’t Air Obama Admitting Mistakes in Campaign Ads
CBS Concedes: Romney Better Push Libya Because the Press Won’t ‘Make the Case for Him’
Politico, WSJ and AP Report Obama Crowd in Wis. of About 5,000 as 18,000
Brent Bozell and the folks at the Media Research Center and Newsbusters have been chronicling this bias for years. In fact, Bozell just wrote a column on this the other day: ‘Bias by Omission’ in Liberal Media Has ‘Gotten to Ridiculous Heights.’ Sometimes the bias isn’t even in how you cover a story but what stories you choose to cover (or ignore).
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:54 pm
Marty, Meanwhile
You dissect the article of your choosing………….
You shouldn’t need a crutch, right?
If it is their for anyone to see then you should be able to show it in today’s AJC, NYT, WaPO, etc………….
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
9:54 pm
If BOTH is going to claim that a RW website is illigetimate because it is right wing then he loses his own argument because the same is true of the LW media. Otherwise known as the MSM.
I try not to confuse a Liberal with superior reasoning but it so hard not to.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
9:54 pm
There is no debate, the MSM has a conservative, corporatist bias due to the worldview of those who own it.
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
9:56 pm
There is no debate, the MSM has a conservative, corporatist bias due to the worldview of those who own it.
Finally somebody throws some humor into the discussion.
Cherokee
September 25th, 2012
9:56 pm
There is no ‘liberal’ media.
The whole idea is an invention of extremist righties who try every day to sell their ideas in the marketplace – and fail miserably.
God forbid that they admit their ideas are not viable….
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:57 pm
Joe
Ralph Reed is a con artist……..
In his hey day with Abramoff, he would take payments from Abraomoff to advertise how evil gambling was to scare of certain Indian tribes from lobbying for casinos, while Abramoff would lobby for other tribes to have casinos in the same states……….
He uses his Christianity for his own profits…….. A sick and deceitful man he is
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
“Years ago, Republican party chair Rich Bond explained that conservatives’ frequent denunciations of ‘liberal bias’ in the media were part of ‘a strategy’ (Washington Post, 8/20/92). Comparing journalists to referees in a sports match, Bond explained: ‘If you watch any great coach, what they try to do is “work the refs.” Maybe the ref will cut you a little slack next time.’”
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
Example: Planned Parenthood’s founder espoused genocide and is in the business of killing babies, a disproportianate amount in the black community. Never gets reported from this angle. Why?
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
getalife
September 25th, 2012
9:42 pm
Mighty big accusation to claim I lied.
Well see when I source something it is usually from a google search got a bad memory and can’t always remember where I read something.
I guess you missed the part where I stated I read a variety of sources.
I didn’t know I needed to list each and every single news site I have ever read and/or looked at.
But hey if you get an ego boost from calling folks liars by all means.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
‘The press isn’t quite as biased and liberal. They’re actually conservative sometimes,’
‘I admit it,’ Kristol told The New Yorker. ‘The whole idea of the ‘liberal media’ was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
10:00 pm
Lets play the game. Google media has corporate gop bias and look at all those articles. Which is true?
Well, that is up to the reader’s bias.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
10:00 pm
Marty, so tell us again about that news you watch in the mornings on ch 4 here in the ATL? Or would that be Fox 5 news that you claim you never watch in “your home”.
Have you ever done any architecture?
kayaker 71
September 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
There is no liberal bias in the main stream media……..
BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah….. How can any person with more than one synapse believe that the media treats liberals and conservatives the same? This is so ridiculous that it is not even worth a post. Bozo could be an ax murderer or a child molester and the media would say that he is just misunderstood. The media, including Bookman’s blog, is not only biased but most of the time, tells only that part of the story that makes their point, whereby they stop. Only an idiot would believe what the main stream media produces is “news”. Bookman and the MSM are so far in the hip pocket of Bozo that the truth no longer matters. Hell, the New York Times sent a reporter to the WH to clear a story that they were about to run to make sure that Bozo’s WH approved. Now that’s reporting, wouldn’t you say? It is not only a joke, it is a pathetic excuse for what used to be journalism in this country. Bookman and the MSM wouldn’t know true journalism if if rose up and bit them square on the ass.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
LP
So I assume you will not be presenting an article from any msm article…………
hahahahahah
Boortz told me, Limbaugh claimed it……… I heard it on Fox and read it on Newsbusters
“No….. I don’t have any of my own evidence, but I tell you those source I named are golden,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I know it is true”
hahahahahahah
Jay's full of it....again....
September 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2012/09/21/americans-are-sick-of-medias-pro-obama-bias
I feel the same way—I’ve gotten to the point where I tune out much of the political coverage because it makes my blood pressure so high. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. On that same homepage at NBC News, here are the headlines for today:
1.Romney paid 14.1 percent effective tax rate in 2011
2.Obama’s battleground advantage grows
3.Obama hits Romney on 47 percent: ‘I don’t see a lot of victims’
4.Ryan gets boos at AARP conference
5.Polls: Obama ahead in Colorado, Iowa and Wisconsin
6.Obama swipes at Romney over ‘47 percent’ comments
And yet we know that Romney also gave away $4 million last year to charity; that there are just as many polls showing Romney within the margin of error as show Obama ahead; and that Ryan was also applauded at the AARP conference—but there is no mention of those in the headlines. Apparently NBC feels we need to be reminded twice that Obama disagrees with Romney’s ‘47 percent’ comment.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
10:03 pm
Marty,
I have been blogging for a long time and I can tell by reading your arguments. My bs detector is going off on you.
Jm
September 25th, 2012
10:03 pm
“right-wing fantasies”
I thought those involved toe tapping and swimming naked on foreign trips…..
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
LEVIN: ‘Michelle Obama The New Eva Peron With Her Lunch Standards’…
drudgey spam.
No bias there.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
getalife
Almost 3 hours and not one blogger has presented an article from today’s msm dissecting all the bias…….
They need talk radio, newsbusters and Fox to tell them the “examples” or they wouldn’t even have a clue
HIGH-LARIOUS
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
9:54 pm
When did I claim it was there for anyone to see?
I’ll look forward to you dissecting all 50 examples given.
I mean you been asking for one, hell there are 50.
And yep I picked the one that was most present in my mind. But yet that makes it wrong. I’ll look forward to your dissection of that as well.
In my opinion most of the bias displayed in media regardless of if its conservative or liberal biasis the same it is here on a blog. It is done through omission of information. Or the ole good for the goose good for the gander thing.
Have you honestly never witnessed a bias by conservative or liberal media?
And yet another example...
September 25th, 2012
10:06 pm
Internal Department of Justice emails obtained by The Daily Caller show Attorney General Eric Holder’s communications staff has collaborated with the left-wing advocacy group Media Matters for America in an attempt to quell news stories about scandals plaguing Holder and America’s top law enforcement agency.
Dozens of pages of emails between DOJ Office of Public Affairs Director Tracy Schmaler and Media Matters staffers show Schmaler, Holder’s top press defender, working with Media Matters to attack reporters covering DOJ scandals.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/18/emails-reveal-justice-dept-regularly-enlists-media-matters-to-spin-press/#ixzz27XNzWODP
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:06 pm
“So I assume you will not be presenting an article from any msm article…………”
meant to type “any analysis from………………”
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
BOTH..I don’t have the time or inclination to quote thousands of individual articles and I can tell you are not responding to my superior reasoning and arguments. The bias is in the ‘fabric’ of the articles as the reporting is being filtered in a particularly biased way. Happens with Libs and Cons. I gave you at least 50 examples of where this LW bias played out. Just because you don’t like the messenger doesn’t mean the message isn’t true. I need to find someone to dialogue with that is smarter than a 5th grader. Goodnight.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Pariah, are yours the the tears of a clown?
Just manup, neocons and quit whining about how everyone is out to get you.
You and your Cult of Victimhood are beyond paranoid, and you’re always looking for excuses and somebody else to blame your losses on.
Absurd…
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Marty
Do you have an article from today’s msm that is not an editorial to prove your point?
It occurs all the time, right?
getalife
September 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
What happened to Kristol? Does he have Iraq remorse and starting to be honest. Talk about change.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
LP
Your concession has been accepted
Thanks for playing
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
getalife
September 25th, 2012
10:03 pm
Well there ya have it. GetLifes bs meter is going off.
Can’t discuss issues but he hears his BS meter.
What a Joke.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:09 pm
Jam
They are building their “excuse” case for what appears to be a Romney let down next month…………….
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
To all the Conservatives here on this blog: Isn’t funny to watch Libs deny something so obvious most of them don’t truly believe their denials? They are just glad for it. To deny bias in any media is ignorant and to deny LW bias in the MSM is beyond ignorant. Sheesh.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
Getalife,
Let me guess you are one of those nut jobs that listens to your “Gaydare” too huh?
Simply amazing!
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
I didn’t concede. I claimed victory. Happens to you all the time I am sure.
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Jam…I deal in facts as I see them. Life isn’t fair and neither is politics. The irritating thing to me as a Conservative is that even though I feel he is a superior candidate to Obama, Romney is what I have to vote for. It’s been a long time for me that I have not had to hold my nose when I vote.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Claiming victory over a dolt like yourself……….. yes it does
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Marty, do you like movies about gladiators?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Gaydare?
A variation of truth or dare, perhaps?
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
LP
That is the same for Democrats…….. I voted for Hillary last time
NFL Playa
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
Maybe the MSM referees need to unionize more
So they can up their quality.
Cause the amateur hour MSM referees are making bad calls left and right.
Maybe we should stop listening to them.
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
They BOTH don’t, just you
Poor homework by Jay...
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-viewpoint/082712-623715-one-sided-media-coverage-shows-bias.htm?p=full
…It wasn’t like he repeated the mistake in all 57 states, or more precisely in Beaverton, Ore., in May 2008; or while traveling on the “Intercontinental” railroad in Cincinnati on Sept. 23, 2011; or perhaps, while he was speaking to the “President” of Canada in Chicago on Aug. 7, 2007.
He might not have known how to say it in “Austrian” while in Strasbourg, France, on April 5, 2009; or perhaps he was thinking of “Polish Death Camps” at the White House on May 30, 2012; or thinking about when he met with world leaders in that splendid “Asian” city, Honolulu, on Nov. 16, 2011.
He might have been thinking of the brave Navy “corpse” man at the prayer breakfast in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 5, 2010, which may not sound so strange to someone who also said: “On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today…”
All these examples were unreported or under-reported gaffes of President Obama.
The mainstream media didn’t seem to think these incidents were worthy of a media feeding frenzy, unlike those of poor Dan Quayle.
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
Obama is the Replacement Ref of Presidents
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
10:15 pm
BOTH, sore losers are…………………. losers.
It is fun to watch them squirm for Mitt as they try to sell themselves on the belief that they use “superior reasoning”.
The magic of one link to some nutjob birther website!
Being hyper critical is not the same as having critical thinking skills, cons.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:15 pm
Braves still have an outside chance
They have pulled within 4 with 8 to go
Liberal Pariah
September 25th, 2012
10:15 pm
BOTH…I hate it that we have so much in common. I feel your pain.
Truly
Doggone/GA
September 25th, 2012
10:16 pm
“Internal Department of Justice emails obtained by The Daily Caller show Attorney General Eric Holder’s communications staff has collaborated with the left-wing advocacy group Media Matters for America in an attempt to quell news stories about scandals plaguing Holder and America’s top law enforcement agency”
First rule of the conned: NEVER let a good lie die
NFL Playa
September 25th, 2012
10:16 pm
Liberal Pariah
I beg to differ. The replacement refs showed up.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
10:17 pm
Both,
Their minds should be studied by psychologists
NFL Playa
September 25th, 2012
10:18 pm
“Braves still have an outside chance
They have pulled within 4 with 8 to go”
Spoken like a con
etc. etc. etc.....
September 25th, 2012
10:18 pm
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/donations-by-media-companies-tilt-heavily-to-obama/
Wall Street may lean Republican this presidential election cycle, but the New York media world is staunchly Democratic.
All the major media companies, driven largely by their Hollywood film and television businesses, have made larger contributions to President Obama than to his rival, former Gov. Mitt Romney, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit, nonpartisan Washington-based research group that publishes the Open Secrets Web site.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:18 pm
Jam
Kam called it a few months ago. It will only get worse as the witching hour draws near………
Romney / Ryan: they need to adopt this theme song. They probably need one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBttQmhDBw&feature=related
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:18 pm
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Umm yeah I never said it occurs everyday. Seems to be your point but it ain’t mine.
I would argue that if any senator today had proclaimed President Obama had sullied the Christian religion it would have been a lead story on every news outlet.
Seems when Harry Reid says it about Mitt Romney the only people at the AJC who have discussed it are editorial columnist.
Again it is in my opinion more bias by omission.
If it makes you feel better I could probably find the same type of bias by omission only slanted in a conservative fashion.
getalife
September 25th, 2012
10:19 pm
Both,
I thought the Braves are the first for the wild card.
G Mare
September 25th, 2012
10:19 pm
Okay, I am out for now. This discussion is circular, as it is going nowhere & persuading no one. Circular as in going nowhere & circling the drain. Wish I knew how to post that rimshot video; it really fits here.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:21 pm
I would argue this, I would argue that but can’t find the blatant and obvious out of all the non editorials that ran today
hahahahahah
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:21 pm
getalife
They are, but still have outside chance to win the division, which would put the Nationals as the 1st WC team
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur8ftRFb2Ac&feature=related
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:24 pm
LP
No sweat. Several of my close friends are very conservative. Some of them social cons, others economic cons….. a few both
They give me no quarter, I give them no quarter………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKOngTfTMs0
In the end, political ideology is one of many many variables that make up who we are as indivduals
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:25 pm
Bias by omission = Boo-hoo-hoo nobody takes my my poutrage seriously, so they must be biased.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:25 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Well I liked Gladiator the movie. Thought it was too long though.
More into comedy and horror flicks. I know weird combo.
Why?
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Oh no the horror I spelled something wrong. Not only that but I spelled something wrong that is not an actual word recognized in the English language.
No good arguments so you make this one really. You that desperate?
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
10:25 pm
Yep BOTH, the con meltdowns are going to grow exponentially in the next six weeks.
They are truly…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehwSEVbBZl4
The Media (hardly)...
September 25th, 2012
10:25 pm
“We thought we’d bring you up to date on those protesters, the Occupy Wall Street movement. As of tonight, it has spread to more than 250 American cities, more than a thousand countries — every continent but Antarctica.”
— Diane Sawyer on ABC’s World News, October 10, 2011. On a later edition, Sawyer corrected her still-absurd hype: “…more than a thousand cities around the world.”
“Can we just enjoy Obama for a moment? Before the policy choices have to be weighed and the hard decisions have to be made, can we just take a month or two to contemplate him the way we might contemplate a painting by Vermeer or a guitar lick by the early-seventies Rolling Stones or a Peyton Manning pass or any other astounding, ecstatic human achievement? Because twenty years from now, we’re going to look back on this time as a glorious idyll in American politics, with a confident, intelligent, fascinating president riding the surge of his prodigious talents from triumph to triumph….’I am large, I contain multitudes,’ Walt Whitman wrote, and Obama lives that lyrical prophecy….Barack Obama is developing into what Hegel called a ‘world-historical soul,’ an embodiment of the spirit of the times. He is what we hope we can be.”
— Esquire’s Stephen Marche in a column for the magazine’s August 2011 issue: “How Can We Not Love Obama? Because Like It or Not, He Is All of Us.”
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:26 pm
Kam
It is there and I know it……… All around us like the plague, but I just can’t show you unless I go to a right wing website………………
Atlanta 1
September 25th, 2012
10:28 pm
329 comments. Took 5 minutes for you to write and you got 18 in on a beautfiul day…
Your my idol…
The Media is ‘in the tank’ for this President. You would have to be an idiot not to see it – but that’s a fact of life- no point in whining about it…
Have a great night..
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:28 pm
Jam
It isn’t over yet, but I suggest you are on high ground come election day when this occurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOEQTJV_3-w
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:29 pm
BOTH
I tripped over it on my way out the door this morning. You can’t swing a dead cat without knocking it down.
Kinda like those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:31 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:25 pm
As I thought you don’t want to discuss any issue. It is your wishes to simple ridicule any whom share a different opinion than yours.
I have made my case as to what I see as media bias. I am sorry you do not agree.
I gave you exactly what you have asked for yet each and every time you just cast it off as poutrage or some other cute little word.
Would you like to have a reasonable siscussion or you just want to call each other names and make fun of one another? Cause I can do that too I just choose to try and have a debate with facts and information.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:31 pm
Kam
Bingo………
Post of the day
Give that man a gold star
Kam
Mary Elizabeth
September 25th, 2012
10:31 pm
G Mare, in case you check back in. I was named for my mother, and her mother, by my father. (Of course, one of his friends suggested, to my father, that he actually had me named for the queens of England!) Only months later, my father’s brother gave me the most horrendous nickname, when I was a toddler, that I have been trying to discard all of my life! But, tell that to your brother and sister!
You are a sweetheart, and I appreciate you!
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPP6izjN6Y
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:33 pm
I gave you exactly what you have asked for…
What “exactly” did I “ask” for, sport?
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
10:34 pm
Your my idol…
It is hard to take our cons seriously when they consistently make grammatical mistakes that would embarrass an average fifth grader.
More confusion…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuf_SPvX-Y
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JybkqBGrVs&feature=related
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:38 pm
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_JAgHxR14&feature=related
Get the LED out
gm
September 25th, 2012
10:42 pm
F. Sinkwich
That appease has kept this country safe for 4 years, as for Allen West, who cares what that disconnected wana be uncle tom thinks.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:42 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
What is your plan as a member of the media to regain our trust?
Our?
Who granted you the authority to speak for anyone other than yourself?
—————–
Did you post this or did you get name jacked?
If you did ask it you directly asked me something. I gave you the answer and you didn’t agree with it and I tried to show you my position.
So that’s what you asked of me.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPM6ni4bQzc&feature=related
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
10:45 pm
So that’s what you asked of me.
Good boy.
Now can you answer the question that you deflected earlier?
Who granted you the authority?
Mr. Snarky
September 25th, 2012
10:48 pm
As far as liberal bias goes, media outlets are businesses first and foremost. Headlines like “Obama’s lead grows” are always going to attract more readers than “Romney is with the margin of error”. You cons and your persecution complex are kind of pathetic not to see the MSM for what it is, and that is not liberal or conservative bias but dollar bias.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:50 pm
Snarky
Correcta-mundo
Just Saying..
September 25th, 2012
10:52 pm
On the other hand, it IS becoming clearer what’s in Hanger 51. The few Republicans left who are connected to reality.
They’re hiding.
G Mare
September 25th, 2012
10:53 pm
Thank you for the appreciation, Mary Elizabeth! Re the nicknames, my brother was named Richard, always known to us siblings as “Dickie.” Took him a lot of years to retrain his three sisters to call him “Rick.” Ah families! I celebrate us now – Mare, Dee, Rick, & Elizabeth – for the kids we were & the siblings we still are, or perhaps I just wish we still were. It is hard to stay close to siblings across so many miles. I am here in GA, sisters are in CA, & our brother is in Hawaii. Yah for email!
Ah, I am into the nostalgia tonight, probably because of the scary med test I am facing this week.
That said, I am out for tonight.
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
10:54 pm
Loved that Lazy, BOTH what a badass band.
This was another…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrwk9SvdaLk
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:55 pm
G mare
Hope everything works out for the better
Best of luck
Tundra Dude
September 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
Marty wrote:
Why and or how would they exaggerate that much.
Actually, your sources have a bad case of BID (bad info disorder)
Fact: Maier Park hosts the annual Summerfest. This year there were 800,000 visitors over 10 days.
uDDer nonsense, 5,000 capacity…they have that many port-o-potties.
Your source forgot to mention the 23,000 seat amphitheater, I’d guess.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
7:17 pm
What is your plan as a member of the media to regain our trust?
Our?
Who granted you the authority to speak for anyone other than yourself?
———–
I already answered it once. You didn’t like that answer. But I will give it again.
See a poll came out that showed 60% of those polled do not trust the media. I do not trust the media, both liberal and conservative. Therefore it is a logical thought to include myself with those who have expressed a distrust in the media.
So see there I was asking what to do to restore my trust and the 60% who also do not trust the media.
Therefor making us a group of those who do not trust the media.
I believe to show ownership or possession of something as a group the proper term is OUR.
When a group share an opinion and have. Informed their opinion is it not Their opinion?
See you chose to make up In your mind that it was a talk radio talking point. Or at least that is what you typed.
But again I was only speaking for those who had already confirmed to share the same opinion as I do. At least we share the opinion on this issue. Thus making it our opinion that we don’t trust the media
Now tell us all why that is not good enough for you.
I got it maybe you could call me some made up names too. Ya know to really set your point home.
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
10:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQnGfZpIfY&feature=related
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
October baseball back in the ATL!
Yeah, baby!
Sweet redemption after last September…
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
10:59 pm
Mr. Snarky:
I would argue that it is not quite as pecuniary as you suggest, but rather has more to do with the media as institution’s self-understanding as part of a privileged system of power. At least as important as the pure profit motive for ex. is the drive to establish contacts with individuals wielding real power, which is necessary obviously in order to report on it, but which ends up implicating those who witness it from that privileged perspective in the very power they cover, giving them a strong incentive to identity with the authors of the very power they are supposed to be viewing from a critical distance.
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
But again I was only speaking for those who had already confirmed to share the same opinion as I do.
Again — you are assuming authority to speak on behalf of others.
Again — who granted you that authority?
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9nfVrusSMg&feature=related
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
11:01 pm
Yes indeed lady G Mare, hang tough!
Good vibes going your way…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X7h9jLCqFc
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
11:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh8Ic6MbtoU&feature=related
JamVet
September 25th, 2012
11:04 pm
The Fourth Estate has always been in a no win situation.
God bless our free press.
Just don’t ask Spiro “Nattering nabobs of negativity” Agnew!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHY5l4eaOF8
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
11:05 pm
Tundra Dude
September 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
You want to re think that. Cause this is what I found and it speaks about the actual event. 2500 seats and another 2500 in bleachers.
Obama to speak at BMO Harris Pavilion on Summerfest grounds
By Don Walker of the Journal Sentinel
Sept. 19, 2012 | (83) Comments
“President Barack Obama will speak to supporters Saturday at the BMO Harris Pavilion, the newest venue at Maier Festival Park.
The pavilion has seats for 2,500, plus benches for an additional 2,500 people. All of that seating is under cover.
At Summerfest this year, an additional 5,000 people could be accommodated at the pavilion on a standing room-only basis. Don Smiley, Summerfest’s president and CEO, said Wednesday that he was not sure whether standing room-only spaces would be made available.”
http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/obama-to-speak-at-bmo-harris-pavilion-on-summerfest-grounds-mq6u1rp-170344706.html
Tundra Dude
September 25th, 2012
11:06 pm
Jay Bookman
For conservatives, it’s ‘Blame the media!’ time
Suggested assignment for conservatives:
Discover for yourselves who actually owns the major networks/papers and look at the makeup of the boards of directors.
Last time I checked, didn’t seem like a lot of flaming Liberals amongst them.
Journalists are employees. If the boss(es) disapprove of their work, obviously they can be let go.
Actually, the late Tim Russert said, he discovered early in his career, not to concern himself with pleasing the “boss”, but please the Owner!
They BOTH suck
September 25th, 2012
11:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJeBvNuYPMM&feature=related
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
11:10 pm
Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes
September 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
They(all 60%) has already spoke to the matter of their trust in media.
I didn’t need any authority, they had already spoke for themselves in the poll. I’m not speaking for them and just because you insist on claiming otherwise doesn’t make it true.
Again if they had not already spoke for themselves and claimed to not trust the media I would not have included the. As sharing my distrust for the media.
But they had already spoke for themselves and by doing so they shared they had the same opinion as I. Thus we share the same opinion making it our opinion. And our lack of trust. See there is a group who has already spoke and and placed themselves in the 60% lacking said trust.
Deangelo
September 25th, 2012
11:13 pm
I follow a college football team a little west of there. Their last coach was fired after two years where he won 3 games. The current coach is 0-4. Last year’s coach had one a game by this date. Yet, there are a lot of fans who insist the new coach is better. He “looks” more organized on the sidelines. His team is “in the game.” He “seems” more upseet about bad plays. These fans say that other teams’ fans across the state were making fun of the old coach, but, even though the new guy has yet to win a game they’re glad we’ve chanaged coaches. Other than going from bad to worse, what’s the difference in these 2 coaches? Well, the new one who “looks” better and “appears” to be better organized, etc. isn’t the same race as the former coach. That’s about it. Clearly facts say the team was horrible last year and has only gotten worse, but these people see “real” improvement based on subjective factors. There are a ton of people who don’t think that their opinions might be subconsiously swayed by someone’s race, but I tell you, whether it’s in football, politics or the boardroom, these judgements are still made by certain people. It’s up to good people to direct the discussion back to the facts and away from name calling and non-measurable criteria when you hear this type of trash talk.
Don't Tread
September 25th, 2012
11:15 pm
“Rathergate..One event for which people were fired is of course complete evidence of so much bias.”
CBS defended the “authenticity” and “accuracy” of their reporting for weeks, until it was proven (repeatedly) beyond any doubt that the documents in question were forged. People were fired 6 months later, well after the election was decided.
Let’s not forget the MSM political contributions to Democrats. They’re not going to contribute a ton of money to people and then undermine them in their own press.
Then there’s the many studies on liberal bias in the media which found that liberal bias is injected into nearly all news subjects but most readily apparent when the topic of discussion is hot-button issues like gays, race issues, environmental issues, gun control, and entitlements.
Get Real
September 25th, 2012
11:17 pm
The media is left leaning and the majority of Americans do not trust what is being spewed as far as political reporting is concerned. Is this supposed to be some sort of epiphany?
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
11:19 pm
Thulsa Doom,
You do know the speech in question was held in the Pavillion and not the Amphitheatre right?
But don’t let facts get in the way right!
http://www.summerfest.com/about/bmo-harris-pavilion/
How many seats did it say it holds again? What is 2500+2500 again. Oh nevermind the pavilions own website answers that for me.
”
PURCHASING BMO HARRIS PAVILION CONCERT TICKETS OUTSIDE OF SUMMERFEST
For shows outside of Summerfest, the BMO Harris Pavilion will operate like other amphitheaters that feature reserved seats and General Admission Viewing Areas. The BMO Harris Pavilion features various high-quality seating options under the roof with custom padded chairs with cup holders in the first 5 rows and permanent fixed assigned seating in the rest of the Blue Circle (Lower Bowl 2,500 capacity). Additionally, the Upper Bowl features bleachers with backrests for added comfort (2,500 capacity).
General Admission Viewing Areas will accommodate approximately 5,000 attendees adjacent to the Upper Bowl and outside of the roof area.”
Anytime you feel that need to apologize or recant your earlier post just feel free. I already forgive you.
Marty Huggins'
September 25th, 2012
11:41 pm
Welp,
Think I’m gone hit the hey
Hope there are no hard feelings. Hopefully will get a chance to blog tomorrow.
Of course if I don’t means I’m making money so can’t complain.
Good night
And
Good Luck tomorrow all
Welcome to the Occupation
September 25th, 2012
11:42 pm
Get Real : “The media is left leaning and the majority of Americans do not trust what is being spewed as far as political reporting is concerned. Is this supposed to be some sort of epiphany?”
No epiphany, just a canard and half-truth for gulling the slow-witted.
Ron
September 25th, 2012
11:59 pm
Hey Jay, ever seen a grown man nekkid? Ever been to a Turkish prison? Do you like gladiator movies? KMA!
Get Real
September 26th, 2012
12:00 am
Welcome……just common sense for those of us with our eyes and ears open. Your moniker indicates where your head is……
TLM
September 26th, 2012
12:46 am
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Oscar
September 26th, 2012
1:29 am
As far as the football game, bad calls are a part of the game and always will be. Take it in stride and don’t whine and be a baby. We all get bad calls and good calls. Whether we play football, work in an office or in construction. Take it and go on.
Oscar
September 26th, 2012
1:53 am
And I will add the same is true if you write for a newspaper or if you are running for office.
And for Romney and the polls. Romney is one of those guys that the more you know him, the less you like him. And the more he talks the more the public knows about him. Hard to blame the media for that.
Time to shut down for the dayeven for oldsters like me that like to stay up at night.
ld
September 26th, 2012
2:36 am
Romney’s problem IS the media in that it’s actually reporting the stuff he’s saying.
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Mary Elizabeth
September 26th, 2012
3:50 am
G Mare, My thoughts and prayers are with you concerning your medical tests. Peace be with you.
Mary Elizabeth
September 26th, 2012
3:52 am
Here is an article worth reading by Paul Krugman, regarding media “balance.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/29/opinion/krugman-the-centrist-cop-out.html?ref=paulkrugman
lynnie gal
September 26th, 2012
5:03 am
If Republicans can’t win even with their very own 24 hour news show that spews nothing but conservative propaganda, and nearly complete domination of talk radio, there’s no hope for them. Awww…
Mary Elizabeth
September 26th, 2012
5:27 am
Continuing the theme of extremism, in a different context, from my last post is today’s front page headline in the AJC:
“Obama: World must reject extremism”
“Confronting global tumult and Muslim anger, President Barack Obama (at the UN General Assembly) exhorted world leaders Tuesday to stand fast against violence and extremism, arguing that protecting religious rights and free speech must be a universal responsibility and not just an American obligation.”
stands for decibels - race traitor
September 26th, 2012
5:56 am
I saw this Jay-piece earlier, couldn’t quite formulate an on-topic response but I think I’ve got a shred of an idea worth sharing now.
I think I understand the appeal of blaming the media for any misfortunes. It makes for a fabulous Unified Theory of Everything to Infinity and Beyond. If you’ve decided that virtually anyone who decides to report news for a living is by their very nature to your political left, then it would make sense that everything coming from those people is slanted against you.
(obviously I can offer a half-dozen reasons why this Unified Theory is utter horse-hockey, and frequently I do, but I’m not in the mood right now.)
stands for decibels - race traitor
September 26th, 2012
6:00 am
Here is an article worth reading by Paul Krugman
Be warned–he is TIRED of trying to reason with you people.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
6:42 am
Wow, not even the late night trolling with the Rush Limbaugh bumper sticker slogans. The Republicans must be really feeling scared…….
weetamoe
September 26th, 2012
6:43 am
As Jay Carney once explained, *The president was not understood by some people because he is a professor of law. He speaks shorthand.* And the media did not explode into laughter. Instead they all nodded wisely and discussed in detail all of the scholarly articles Obama has written, and quoted all of those glowing praises of his lectures by former students. And the media totally forgot to speak truth to power while smearing the middle class TEA party conservatives who had not the power but the courage to do just that.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
6:51 am
Oh gee, another dolt who thinks the tea party fools are intellectuals. I think the whole teaparty “movement’ was summed up by that tea party idiot holding a sign at a rally that said, “Keep your Gov’t hands off my medicare!!!!!!!!”
Orange12
September 26th, 2012
6:54 am
Just remember. The USA is living off money Obama and his administration have borrowed and have no clue how to pay it back. The total gets bigger every day.
Jay
September 26th, 2012
6:57 am
How utterly charming of the Mecklenburg County (VA) Republican Party:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151047858243909&set=a.10150117213753909.290606.78005643908&type=3&theater
Jay
September 26th, 2012
6:57 am
I’m sure the media made them do that.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
7:00 am
Orange12
September 26th, 2012
6:54 am
Just remember. The USA is living off money Obama and his administration have borrowed and have no clue how to pay it back. The total gets bigger every day.
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How do you live with yourself telling so many lies? Don’t you have a conscience?
Orange12
September 26th, 2012
7:01 am
Another typical Obama supporter.
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=761142&ocid=ansent11
Orange12
September 26th, 2012
7:03 am
Fred,
Take your meds, you’re going off the deep end again.
Doggone/GA
September 26th, 2012
7:03 am
Jay – wish I could see that photo – whatever it is, but my employer blocks facebook access
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 26th, 2012
7:13 am
for Republicans, it’s ALWAYS blame the media time!
” … THAT’S how big a conspiracy it is!”
Resistance is futile!! You will be assimilated
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 26th, 2012
7:16 am
Jay – 6:57 – what kills me is that those pics have been there for months – and only NOW have they been found to be “offensive”
stands for decibels
September 26th, 2012
7:16 am
Jay – wish I could see that photo
It’s the “Obama the witch doctor with the bone in his nose” pic that right wingers have been circulating for years to convince us that Obamacare is bad.
I could google it and link you to it, but you know, f-ck those guys.
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 26th, 2012
7:17 am
“It’s the “Obama the witch doctor with the bone in his nose” pic”
but noooooooooooooo, they’re not RACIST or anything …
AU Liberal in ATL
September 26th, 2012
7:20 am
Romney is a lousy politician, not to mention that his policies, as far as anyone can tell, are equally lousy. Place blame or give credit where ever you like. I personally think the real problem for the republicans is their extreme lurch to the right and their willingness to pander to the Tea Baggers and the ridiculously religious.
Re-electing the President is the most important issue we currently face as a country. A new poll now has the President up by double digits in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. If those numbers hold, and I fully expect they will, it’s over.
This is exactly what Limbaugh, Hannity, OReilly and the like are really hoping for. For them it means job security.
Jack
September 26th, 2012
7:20 am
Liberal polls are generated by non-voting liberals who want the present welfare programs to continue and grow in scope.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
7:22 am
Jack
September 26th, 2012
7:20 am
Liberal polls are generated by non-voting liberals who want the present welfare programs to continue and grow in scope.
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How cute. Here’s Jack with his daily Rush inspired driveby.
Wave at the funny little man……..
stands for decibels
September 26th, 2012
7:22 am
Liberal polls are generated by non-voting liberals
Including heavily Gooper house effect pollsters like Rassmussen? and Gallup?
anyway, sheetz.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
7:22 am
LOL we HAD fresh sheets for a moment but there was a formatting error. I WAS first………..
Uneducated, uninformed, vote against my best interest, Howdy Doody
September 26th, 2012
7:23 am
I saw Mitch Romly on 60 minits and he said it was garantede that he was gonna win. He said it and I beleive it becoze he is a fine Christain famly man. Mitch Romley is Gods canidate.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 26th, 2012
7:26 am
This is simply the first of the five stages of grief.
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance
I suggest they will never be able to emotionally recover from the upcoming loss because as a group they will never reach acceptance.
TaxPayer
September 26th, 2012
7:27 am
Republicans continue to show their true color–antique white.
Doggone/GA
September 26th, 2012
7:31 am
Thanks Stands…yes, I’ve seen that photo before
GT
September 26th, 2012
7:34 am
Obama said something very interesting in the 60 Minutes interview Sunday night. When asked how are you going to break up the log jam in the Congress, O said I am not. He then went on to say he is expecting the American voters to handle that for him, his job is to take the message to the American public. In other words an informed public will not allow their Congress to be hijacked by these thugs. You don’t deal with the thugs you deal with their bosses the voters. The reason these democratic hijackers are in office is because they controled the message and as untrue as their message was they got elected. What Obama understands is the American voter eventually filters out the fear and lies and wants substance.
Great presidents, Roosevelt, Regan and Clinton had great communication skills. Poor presidents Carter, Bush and now the candidate Romney have poor communication skills. In the case of most it is the fear of communication, the lack of confidence in the people that need to be communicated to that cause this shut down. For Romney it is the total second political language he has to spit out not sure himself many times of the logic that backs his statements more less the facts. This turn in the polls is a great day for freedom, it is McCarthyism in reverse.
TaxPayer
September 26th, 2012
7:39 am
The problem with Republicans is that they simply are not getting their message to the people. Let me help.
Although most former financiers must pay ordinary income taxes on retirement income, Bain allowed Romney to receive his payments as “carried interest” — a special tax category reserved for those who actively manage investment funds.
Romney’s 2011 return does not detail the amount of income he received in carried interest, but his campaign told HuffPost the amount is $5.5 million. When Romney released his 2010 tax return in January of this year, his campaign noted that the candidate reaped $7.4 million in carried interest income during 2010.
Carried interest income qualifies as a capital gain, making it eligible for a 15 percent
tax rate — far more favorable than the 35 percent rate that the wealthiest American taxpayers must pony up on ordinary income. Capital gains are one of the most lucrative tax breaks in the tax code for the rich — 50 percent of all capital gains go to the wealthiest 0.1 percent of taxpayers, according to The Washington Post.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
7:43 am
I have to agree with you libs, Obama will probably be re-elected. Too many people on govt freebies for it not to happen. So what if wealthy have to pay a little more in taxes, it really will not matter in the big picture. What happens when our national debt becomes 25, 30 and 40 trillion on down the road? You folks are living for today and do not seem to care about your children or grand children’s future, 40 yrs down the road. Romney may not be the answer but Obama has had his chance. It will be a sad day in Nov for the hard working people and a good day for those who wish to live off other people’s tax money!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 26th, 2012
8:01 am
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
7:43 am
You too are a government dependent Mr. Silly Pants.
Got your own army? navy? police? Fire dept? schools? libraries?
roads?
You’re just like the rest of us, just too stubborn and too full of hate
to admit it.
I feel sad when vets make themselves look silly.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
8:02 am
Why do you hate combat soldiers Tom? Was it ok when YOU were a moocher?
GT
September 26th, 2012
8:04 am
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF) is a perfect example of the brainwash that stalls America. Gov freebies, victims, are the only reason Obama is getting reelected? Tom is apparently trained to have an enemy and with an enemy there is no explaining facts or reasoning, just shock and aw, follow orders, take that island. The first thing Tom needs to do is independently study the facts and he may understand why Obama is being elected. But that doesn’t go over well at the coffee shop with his conspirators, popularity is more important to old Tom than truth and country. I have always imagined lynch mobs had a few that really wanted to kill somebody, but the majority were too weak to speak up. I have lately feared the press being bought out by Murdock and the likes would turn into that mob with the weak following carrying a rope. Just maybe I was wrong, the principles that made this country great are still there, they just needed to be dusted off a little.
catlady
September 26th, 2012
8:13 am
Too bad that the R party is okay with its candidate PANDERING, instead of just stating his/her (haha) goals and beliefs.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 26th, 2012
9:12 am
Get real:
I don’t think you even have the intellectual tools to understand what I’m saying.
Donovan
September 26th, 2012
10:25 am
I find Bookman’s commentary on media bias as stunningly arrogant and untruthful. For all of you myrmidons who believe that the mainstream media is not biased, there is no help for you. There used to be a time when closet liberals like Walter Cronkite fooled the American public into thinking that the news media was fair and impartial. Later we find out that he convinced Robert Kennedy into running against LBJ because of the Vietnam Nam war which was distasteful to liberals. Then we see the discredited Dan Rather fabricating a cooked up story about GW in his presidential campaign. Now we see the Today Show doctoring the audio compilation of the Zimmerman conversation with a 911 dispatcher.
Pick your poison to the well of impartiality and fair coverage with the obvious candidates like the New York Times, the Washington Post, the LA Times, the Miami Herald, the Kansas City Star, the Boston Globe, the AJC, the Huffington Post, etc., etc., etc.
Is it any wonder or any coincidence that Jay Bookman and all his journalistic buddies refer to these sites for their go-to references? Is it any wonder that these people and all of their myrmidons predictably attack Fox for its counter argument to their left wing referenced news media outlets?
I am calling all of you out as liars, defamators, and deniers of the truth. You all stand behind deceit and misinformation. You readily defend untruthful accusations like Harry Reid does. You support the likes of the hypocrite, Nancy Pelosi. You elect an imbecile and incompetent president. You allow the New York Times to go front page with the distortion of the Benghazi attack and say nothing. You lap up the milk from Bookman’s swill like Jim Jones kool aid followers.
If the sky is blue, but the liberal press says that it is gray, you polluted zombies will follow in lock-step agreement to the tune of your progressive handlers. Pathetic and so corrupt. Since you marvelous elitists think that you consider yourselves “progressive”, consider this…back in the day of Woodrow Wilson the Communist Party revamped its image and started to call itself the Progressive Party in this country.
We aren’t buying for one second your denial that the mainstream media is not biased. We have seen the likes of Cronkite, Rather, Jennings, Brockaw, Lauer, Couric, Huffington, Wasserman, Schultz, and Bookman, to name a few, and reject your ridiculous denial.
Your ideology is a rancid cocktail of deceit, slight-of-hand, and is morally corrupt. Do you care? Not at all. Your answer to the truth that I have posted will predictably be scorn and denial. However, the fact remains that the mainstream media is blatantly biased as liberal and you are liars.
Junior Samples
September 26th, 2012
10:29 am
Take a look at Greece America. This appears to be what you want.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
11:29 am
Granny, Fred and GT, thanks for the input. First, Fred, I have never been a moocher, worked since 17 yrs of age in military and law enforcement until retired. Always support the troops and yes GT we were trained to follow orders pretty much no matter what.But that was in the past(the 60’s). I’ll rant for a moment, be patient with me. I do not care about Romney’s or Obama’s taxes, their place of birth, their wealth, their skin color, their religion or prior pastors. I do not care about former Presidents’ Bush drinking problems, Bill Clinton’s womanizing(with Hilliary as his wife I almost understand, no I don’t think I will go there). The govt will not be able to create jobs and improve the economy, only the private section may be able to do that. That is the difference between the two candidates. Does not matter now how we got into this debt problem, instead of bashing people like me, tell me how Obama is going to reduce the debt, improve the economy and create jobs in private industry. Eventually everyone, not just the wealthy, will have a large tax increase to fund the entitlement programs he supports. I do support the govt helping the elderly, disabled and needy but not the moochers that could be working at something, making their own way in life, as most of us did. Try to not be so petty towards people and offer solutions instead! Always remember Pres John Kennedy’s famous words, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”. That had a big influence on me volunteering for military service in the 60’s.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 26th, 2012
11:33 am
Junior Samples
September 26th, 2012
10:29 am
Take a look at Greece America. This appears to be what you want.
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Ah, nope.
It is however the result of conservative fiscal policies is reaction to the Bush Recession.
Cameron and Merkel lead the charge to cut cut cut and austerity austerity austerity…..and Europes economy remains in danger.
Do a little homework.
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Oh and Donovan
I suggest you eat more bran.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 26th, 2012
11:37 am
Tom
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/we-are-the-96-percent/
Mortgage interest deduction?
Employees benefits not taxed?
Oh ans it most certainly DOES matter how we got into this mess silly.
That’s how we determine what stupid stuff not do do again.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
12:07 pm
Dear Tom,
Were you in a combat zone? If yes then you ARE a moocher. Romney says so as do the rest of your brain dead hard core fanatical nutcase Republicans. You see in a Combat zone you don’t pay taxes. Anyone who doesn’t pay taxes is a moocher. See how that works? As to job “creation” educate yourself. When you have read the article below then we’ll talk about who is better suited tohelp “create jobs” Romney, or Obama.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/big-lie-rich-people-create-jobs-210637141.html
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
Fred – You know I was in a combat zone, as all service in Vietnam does. When you are in military service you are not a govt moocher, no matter where you served. You always seem to want to start something, are you that unhappy with your life, I am not. I like my life and will survive just fine if your guy gets re-elected. Perhaps you should think more of your children/grand children’s future and less of right now?
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
Fred – You know I was in a combat zone, as all service in Vietnam does. When you are in military service you are not a govt moocher, no matter where you served.
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That’s not what your republican buddies and talk radio hosts say. They say that those who don’t pay taxes are moochers. Combat soldiers don’t pay taxes therefore they are moochers. They are part of that 47%. Just like the 2.9 million disabled and wounded vets. THEY are moochers too according to your boy Romney.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
12:48 pm
Your boy Romney, now how would it sound if I said your boy Obama? Neither sounds respectful to me but an eye for an eye, I guess prevails.
Fred ™
September 26th, 2012
1:56 pm
Tom : One IS President deserving of the respect due his office. The other is just a dude.
john
September 26th, 2012
1:58 pm
I would like for Joe Biden or Obama or their campaign to ask a basic question from Romney. As President, you have to tell the American public specifics that you may not like to tell them but they need to know. The question/statement to Romney could be “If you are not able tell the America public the specifics on your budget cuts and tax deductions, then maybe you are not up for being President.”
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September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm
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Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
4:55 pm
Fred – Snappy comeback but the dude was a Governor and saved the Olympics if I remember correctly? Let’s not call either boy agreed!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
John@1;58 Agreed, good point. Now I would like to hear Obama/Biden’s specific plans also. Remember the good for goose is good for the gander thing!