Romney agrees: Tax code too easy on those in his bracket
If actions speak louder than words, then Mitt Romney agrees with Barack Obama that the federal tax code requires too little of rich people like himself.
I don’t know how else to interpret the fact that Romney artificially increased his own taxes in 2011 by taking fewer charitable deductions than he could have. By doing so, Romney’s effective tax rate in 2011 jumped to 14.1 percent, still lower than the rate paid by millions of his fellow Americans.
Absent that step, ABC News reports, “his effective tax rate could have been as low as 10.4 percent.”
And would Romney have taken that step if he wasn’t running for president? Highly unlikely. As the candidate himself told us back in July:
“I don’t pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president. I’d think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires.”
So to review:
Romney paid 14.1 percent of his income in taxes, a figure that could have and would have been as low as 10.4 percent if he wasn’t running for office. In contrast, the average effective tax rate paid by his wealthy father back in the ’60s was 37 percent.
Yet Romney continues to insist that wealthier Americans today can’t be asked to shoulder more of the financial burden, even as changes in the global economy continue to concentrate more and more wealth in their hands.
– Jay Bookman
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Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:23 am
“Saint Breitbart-of-the-Wankers battle cry.”
Dumb, Democratic Deflection
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
11:24 am
Oops. I meant to convey “would be typical”.
I should have known not to offer a correction to TC.
Get Real
September 24th, 2012
11:25 am
The code Jammie Poo not just the rate…..disengage head from butt, you might have a clearer thought process….
jewcowboy
September 24th, 2012
11:26 am
Moby hit the nail on the head when he drew a connection between Romney’s 47% statement and the song “Common People” by Pulp.
“But still you’ll never get it right,
cos when you’re laid in bed at night,
watching roaches climb the wall,
if you call your Dad he could stop it all.
You’ll never live like common people,
you’ll never do what common people do,
you’ll never fail like common people,
you’ll never watch your life slide out of view.”
Shatner’s version is better though
http://youtu.be/ainyK6fXku0
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:26 am
“Has the Daily Caller managed to find the two undecided voters in America who give a crap about it?”
I suppose you are one of the two people in America who might not be interested in what was said by Obama in the full recording (irrespective of DC’s “spin” on it).
Dumb, Democratic Deflection.
TaxPayer
September 24th, 2012
11:26 am
Just shows him for who he really is. Disgusting.
Yes, Mitt is disgusting.
Peter
September 24th, 2012
11:26 am
Where are all the jobs the 1% are creating with their Government welfare ?
The JOBS Romney created ?
SBinf
September 24th, 2012
11:26 am
“Congressman Ryan, what do you think of people who keep their money overseas?”
http://youtu.be/bmV2gGq-2Tk
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:27 am
Elizabeth Warren is the bomb. Brilliant, with an outstanding track record of predicting the Bush-orchestrated meltdown of 2008 and has infinitely more guts to stand up to injustice than virtually any Republican man or woman.
And I am looking forward to her sending Scott Brown back to the “private sector”…
stands for decibels
September 24th, 2012
11:28 am
Shatner’s version is better though
Yes. (This is among the few basic core beliefs that I am likely to carry to my grave.)
gm
September 24th, 2012
11:28 am
Are we better off today then 4 years ago? I look at my 401 compared to 2008, yes, yes, when the right wing nut jobs start looking at the truth it not even close, American 401 had tanked, Thank you Obama””””’
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:29 am
“In a CBS “60 Minutes” interview that aired Sunday night, President Obama inadvertently suggested an approach to the Middle East that places Israel on a par with its Arab neighbors, calling Israel “one of our closest allies in the region.”
“One” ……….. ? And who would the others be ?
Get Real
September 24th, 2012
11:29 am
Elizabeth Warren is at a tribal council meeting……..
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:29 am
Right, Einsteen, because “the code” has nothing to do with tax rates!!!
Hysterical…
Talking with spendaholic neocons about matters economic is like talking to a junkie about drug abuse.
Interesting perspective, but useless…
jms
September 24th, 2012
11:29 am
“Sounds like people are making a bunch of bad decisions, jms.”
The reasons are up for debate but the CNN survey from a couple of weeks ago polled 37% better off and 44% worse off. The latest RCP average on the direction of the country is 38% right track, 56% wrong track. Hard to say that most share your optimistic view.
Krystal'sBalls
September 24th, 2012
11:30 am
@Get Real
How about “getting real” with us? Put up or shut up. Blow up my arguments if you can.
Filter
September 24th, 2012
11:30 am
So let me get this straight. Raising taxes on the top 1% is illogical because doing so will not solve the problem in and of itself. But defeating Sen. Pat Murray’s bill that would have provided job training for returning veterans and would have cost $200 million a year was defeated by the GOP in the Senate as unaffordable?
In what universe does any of this make any sense? Am I in Bizarroworld?
Peter
September 24th, 2012
11:31 am
SBinf ….. YUP we have the GOP talking with forked tongue again…..
Romney keeps his money out of America, thus he is not creating jobs now is he ?
Most of the 1% don’t keep their money here, and they are not creating jobs are they ?
Get Real
September 24th, 2012
11:32 am
Jammie Poo…temper…..temper….the overall code needs to be changed but you go ahead and just focus on the capital gains rate……no TV for you tonight, supper and then straight to bed…
larry
September 24th, 2012
11:33 am
“One” ……….. ? And who would the others be ?
Isn’t Iraq supposed to be ? How about Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Jordan, Turkey………
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:33 am
“Oops. I meant to convey “would be typical”. I should have known not to offer a correction to TC.”
If true (the story has not been fully substantiated as yet), I sure hope it is not typical, Ahem. I mean – being a law professor and practicing law without a license? That takes something out of the ordinary – I am not sure what.
What would, I think, be more typical is that it doesn’t really matter to voters in Massachusetts. Chappaquiddick never stopped Teddy.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 24th, 2012
11:33 am
Let talk about them undecided voters: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/23/undecided-voters-saturday-night-live-video_n_1907145.html
Get Real
September 24th, 2012
11:35 am
Krystal….do you know what the debt was when Obama took office and what it is now…that would be a good start as at least you would know more than Obama…..
Also, I never said he is the first president to incur debt, he is just the first one to send it into orbit….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:35 am
For TaxPayer from last night:
1) 0311
Most of you libs. weren’t in the infantry so you really don’t know why I bother to stay on this blog.
Well, the best defense is always pro-active. You don’t just set up a strong defensive perimeter ………… you send out patrols, set ambushes and utilize night listening posts.
All for the purpose of disrupting the plans of the enemy …………………..
2) TaxPayer:
“Scout’s own words confirm that he did not fight for we the people. He did not fight for the USA.
He calls US citizens the enemy.”
3) Obama to Latino supporters: “….. punish our enemies …….”
“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s going to be harder and that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on November 2.”
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/09/24/obama-israel-closest-allies-region/
4) Yes ………… we ARE “enemies”. Even the president said so.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:35 am
For those who put a lot of stock in polls:
http://triblive.com/home/2641005-74/obama-percent-romney-poll-voters-pennsylvania-leads-lee-margin-points#axzz27OwnjdLb
larry
September 24th, 2012
11:36 am
Am I in Bizarroworld?
Nope, just Republicism. They are just for the troops going to war. Not when they come home.
Just like they want the babies to be born, but they dont care when they become children.
Yep, Republicism.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:37 am
jms, I do NOT minimize the economic devastation out there.
I do contend that blaming everyone else for one’s situation is not terribly productive.
Sure, this country is run by legalized, trickle down thieves, and they make it damn hard for decent, pay your taxes, play by the rules Americans to secure the American Dream. And with our soft on white crime mentality that pervades certain segments of our society it is getting worse as the American plutocrats and oligarchs get more emboldened and even more criminal.
But the challenges facing working class Americans have always been fairly daunting.
I am optimistic.
I advocate for economic justice.
I believe that banksters and white collar criminals by the score should go to prison.
I know, I’m crazy…
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:38 am
“Am I in Bizarroworld?”
Yes. Liberalism goes by many names.
middle of the road
September 24th, 2012
11:38 am
“If we want to discuss raising the capital gains tax, that is a fair conversation to have. ”
So why IS the tax rate on capital gains only 15%? Does money earned that way spend any differently than money earned through work? Are we taking a hit to our tax revenue to supposedly “generate capital”?
So Why?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:39 am
larry:
““One” ……….. ? And who would the others be ?
Isn’t Iraq supposed to be ? How about Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Jordan, Turkey………”
That’s like putting Towson on a par with LSU ……….. ooops ! They do play them Saturday don’t they.
middle of the road
September 24th, 2012
11:40 am
I would argue that both the rich and the poor need to pay more in taxes.
Tax capital gains at the same rate as any other income (you can index for inflation, since that is not income).
Establish a minimum 5% tax rate. Everyone should pay SOMETHING to support the USA (and medicare and SS taxes don’t count since you get those back in benefits).
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:41 am
“Most of you libs. weren’t in the infantry…”
My God! That is all she talks about! ~Joe Walsh, R – Illinois
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:41 am
Not much more to say.
We will never convince the cons to stop slobbering over Americans that need no help from any Americans.
We have to vote and do our job to shift focus from the wealthy to the middle class jobs.
It is up to us.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:41 am
“They are just for the troops going to war.”
And they are always the higher percentage of the troops going to war for this country vs. libs.
May I suggest “Born Fighting” by Democrat Senator and USMC combat veteran James Webb.
USMC
September 24th, 2012
11:41 am
“Wrong, given tax rules related to c corps v s corps and LLC and LPs”–JM
LOL! As Professor JM points out: Doggone’s $8/hr job is OBVIOUSLY taxed differently than that the STOCK HOLDER of a Corporation.
But then again, The Socialist Liberal’s argument is never based on facts; only their insecure emotions.
Go make something with your lives, folks, and you won’t be so insecure and envious of what others have.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:42 am
JamVet:
And you too:
May I suggest “Born Fighting” by Democrat Senator and USMC combat veteran James Webb.
Krystal'sBalls
September 24th, 2012
11:42 am
Let me save you the trouble @getreal
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/a-few-more-charts-that-should-accompany-all-debt-ceiling-discussions/242790/
The red line is your focus (hint…that’s Bush’s “contribution”, which covers everything I said) Take care.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:42 am
…the overall code needs to be changed…
Tell that to your 1% overlords.
And their Party of No sycophants in Washington…
larry
September 24th, 2012
11:44 am
That’s like putting Towson on a par with LSU ……….. ooops ! They do play them Saturday don’t they.
But Towson has gotten all this help and money. Especially from one major college.
The University of the United States.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:44 am
“I think you are kidding yourself if you think you can be one of the highest-taxed states in the nation, have a reputation for being anti-business and have a rosy economic future.”
- Andrew Cuomo
Peter
September 24th, 2012
11:44 am
This is a true understanding of the Republican Mindset………Nope, just Republicism.
They are just for the troops going to war. Not when they come home.
Just like they want the babies to be born, but they don’t care when they become children.
Yes and the money.. well deficits just don’t matter to the super Rich….cause they will be fine when the rest of America is hurting……. In fact they will be better off being the Robber Barons.
the IRS has shown the Rich getting richer……..
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:45 am
Shift focus to put the 12.5 million Americans back to work in decent paying jobs.
Not complicated.
Voting gop will not do it.
Like willie said, they don’t care about those people.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:45 am
Right. Like if you lived in Virginia you would have voted for Webb and NOT that racist POS George “Macaca” Allen???
Your respect for Jim Webb ends with a book.
Go try selling ice to the eskimoes…
Joe Hussein Mama
September 24th, 2012
11:46 am
031 — “Well, the best defense is always pro-active. You don’t just set up a strong defensive perimeter ………… you send out patrols, set ambushes and utilize night listening posts.”
Dude, you don’t even know who your allies and enemies are. Maybe you’d better concentrate on the basics before you move on to settting up that defensive perimeter.
Besides, I always heard that a Marine grunt’s idea of a good 360 defensive perimeter was four Claymore mines duct-taped to his head.
godless heathen
September 24th, 2012
11:46 am
So why IS the tax rate on capital gains only 15%? Does money earned that way spend any differently than money earned through work? Are we taking a hit to our tax revenue to supposedly “generate capital”?
If you want more of something to happen, you tax it a lower rate. Investment of capital drives the economy. Want to see the economy grind to a complete stop, raise capital gains tax rates to the same level as the income taxes.
Peter
September 24th, 2012
11:47 am
Well there is no doubt in my mind the Super Rich get the absolute most Government welfare of any class of American’s….. by far above the very poor !
Imagine that …but it is true !
Joe Hussein Mama
September 24th, 2012
11:47 am
Towncrier — “For those who put a lot of stock in polls”
It’s a lot easier to distinguish the ones worth trusting and relying on if you actually know how to perform them and read them.
Peter
September 24th, 2012
11:48 am
Want to see the economy grind to a complete stop, raise capital gains tax rates to the same level as the income taxes.
So you mean the consumer will stop consuming then ? Or the rich will have a few less toys ?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 24th, 2012
11:48 am
Besides, I always heard that a Marine grunt’s idea of a good 360 defensive perimeter was four Claymore mines duct-taped to his head.
My suggestion is that you need to be more specific about whether they are pointed out or in.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:48 am
We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both. ~Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Court Justice (1856-1941)
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:49 am
The President sets the tone:
** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun!”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard!”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat!”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish our enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”
Krystal'sBalls
September 24th, 2012
11:49 am
By the way @Get Real, I’m STILL WAITING for you to blow up my arguments. I have posted the numbers for your claim that I was factually incorrect. Either you refute my arguments, or be quiet (at least toward me). I’m not one for pushing propanganda. That’s all I am saying.
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
11:50 am
godless@11:46 Preach it!
Why should anyone risk money they might lose just to have the taxed heavily if it generates a profit. They’d be better off just sitting on it in the bank making 2%
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:50 am
Yes scout.
Our President fights back.
So?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:50 am
Joe/Jam/Keep, et al:
Some walked the walk ……….. some talk the talk.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:50 am
“Besides, I always heard that a Marine grunt’s idea of a good 360 defensive perimeter was four Claymore mines duct-taped to his head.”
That would be 2/3 of a “good 360 defensive perimeter”.
Doggone/GA
September 24th, 2012
11:51 am
“Why should anyone risk money they might lose just to have the taxed heavily if it generates a profit”
Why should anyone risk taking a job they might lose just to have it taxed heavily?
DannyX
September 24th, 2012
11:51 am
In sports…
An Arkansas coach is warning fans not to take stock in the polls. “The liberal media has a definite bias and it is clearly evident in their polls. Right now Arkansas is clearly the number one team in the nation. The liberal polls clearly have an agenda. Our internal polls have us at number one. Don’t believe the polls.”
Joe Hussein Mama
September 24th, 2012
11:51 am
KUTGF — “My suggestion is that you need to be more specific about whether they are pointed out or in.”
If you’ve ever seen one go off, you know that it wouldn’t matter much at that distance.
larry
September 24th, 2012
11:52 am
But defeating Sen. Pat Murray’s bill that would have provided job training for returning veterans and would have cost $200 million a year was defeated by the GOP in the Senate as unaffordable?
Would the GOP voted for it if it wasnt paid for ? Would they have voted for it if it would have added to the debt?
200 million a year to provide job training would have been a worthwile investment.
But instead the GOP plays politics.
Another entitlement program , i guess.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 24th, 2012
11:52 am
Towncrier — “That would be 2/3 of a “good 360 defensive perimeter”
Yes, but Marines can only count up to four. Then they run out of fingers on that hand.
curious
September 24th, 2012
11:53 am
Romney is so generous when giving to charity.
Too bad he didn’t feel generous enough to serve his Country when many of us where heading to Vietnam.
He’s so generous, his Sons have picked up on the same spirit and have opted out of helping out in Iraq/Afghanistan.
He’s paid more than legally required unlike the Soldiers killed/maimed and are part of the 47%.
Romney is a phoney.
middle of the road
September 24th, 2012
11:53 am
“Want to see the economy grind to a complete stop, raise capital gains tax rates to the same level as the income taxes.”
So no one will invest in any good ideas or companies unless they are subsidized?
Joe Hussein Mama
September 24th, 2012
11:54 am
0311 — “Joe/Jam/Keep, et al: Some walked the walk ……….. some talk the talk.”
When it comes to polls and polling, when and how did *you* walk the walk?
Peter
September 24th, 2012
11:55 am
So no one will invest in any good ideas or companies unless they are subsidized?
really ?????? says whom ?
USMC
September 24th, 2012
11:55 am
“Tell that to your 1% overlords. And their Party of No sycophants in Washington…”–Jamvet
Pure Delusion from the Angry, Unfulfilled. and Unsuccessful members of society. Sad.
Get off the blogs and go do something productive with your life. It’s not too late.
Holy Moly!
September 24th, 2012
11:56 am
Did anybody watch the 60 Mins interview? Did Romney really say that the uninsured always have the ER to go to if they need? Has this man been living in this country in the last 30 years or so? Every day is like a new shocker from him.
elgrunir
September 24th, 2012
11:56 am
Hey, Stevie Ray,
You might want to cite your source for your Top 10 excuses… ya know, Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post.
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
11:56 am
Doggone - Why should anyone risk taking a job they might lose just to have it taxed heavily?
Really? that’s your argument…The 1% already have the money…the difference is between getting a job and keeping a job in your straw man
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:57 am
…some talk the talk.
Endlessly!
BTW, Cut & Run Del was crying for you next door last night. (Her misses his little buddy, josef, too…)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 24th, 2012
11:57 am
Walking the walk? Talk like a pirate day was last week or are you working the runway this week at some fashion show Senior Digits?
Jeffrey
September 24th, 2012
11:57 am
A republican paying more in taxes than he has to is like a bama fan betting on auburn when the schools play each other. This is just hilarious. What does Romney consider that half million a campaign contribution?
Doggone/GA
September 24th, 2012
11:58 am
“Really? that’s your argument”
Yep, that’s my argument. If they lose their investment all they’ve lost is some money. If my company goes under I lose my job, my house, my future. Now who is risking more?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
11:58 am
Headline: “Obama Counter to Terror: Downplay?”
“President’s initial response to what many in his administration now admit was a terrorist attack on US Consulate in Libya appears to follow his response to three other acts of terror: Fort Hood, Christmas Day bomber and Times Square bomber.”
Weakness only invites more terror.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:58 am
Keep fighting against yourselves cons.
When they control all the wealth what will you say to your kids that can’t make a decent living?
godless heathen
September 24th, 2012
12:00 pm
Well there is no doubt in my mind the Super Rich get the absolute most Government welfare of any class of American’s….. by far above the very poor !
How much welfare did Romney get for the $3 mil he paid in taxes?
So no one will invest in any good ideas or companies unless they are subsidized?
Taking less is not giving.
middle of the road
September 24th, 2012
12:01 pm
“Did Romney really say that the uninsured always have the ER to go to if they need? ”
Did he REALLY say that? If so, he is the biggest idiot around. Oppose making people buy insurance while telling them to go to the emergency room rather than to a clinic or local doctor, and then keep US INSURANCE HOLDERS paying for their costs! We need to repeal EMTALA or we need to add to the law and require the Federal govenment to reimburse hospitals for the costs of unreimbursed care. Maybe THEN he would not make such a rediculour statement.
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
12:01 pm
Doggone – Now who is risking more?
They are…you can always get another job.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
12:02 pm
Ex-Marine, take your own advice and go get a GED.
stands for decibels
September 24th, 2012
12:02 pm
Taking less is not giving.
yes, actually it is, if you’re talking about a revenue stream. If the government makes a conscious decision to provide tax breaks to certain players, then it *is* giving that money away, no matter how much conservative ideologues like to argue otherwise.
middle of the road
September 24th, 2012
12:04 pm
“If you want more of something to happen, you tax it a lower rate. Investment of capital drives the economy.”
So we should get rid of all sales taxes? I hear that consumer spending is what drives the ecomony. Companies can’t sell products to people who aren’t buying.
jewcowboy
September 24th, 2012
12:06 pm
“Romney is a phoney.”
And that, more than anything is else is what is driving his campaign into the dirt. One only has to look at his interactions with the hoi polloi to see the thinly veiled disdain he has when anyone below his station in life has the temerity to question his policies. Imagine the scenario of a secretary second guessing the CEO of Bain about a recent corporate decision.
Would Romney be the type that would listen and consider the secretary’s points, or would he be the type that would interrupt her and tell her he didn’t ask for her opinion? I think we all know the answer to that. A CEO doesn’t represent the “common” people, a President does.
St Simons
September 24th, 2012
12:06 pm
ok, Lord Mittens indian name – i can’t decide
kono-ne-ha
or
money-boo-boo
Nice Old Dawg
September 24th, 2012
12:06 pm
Jay “Class Warfare” Bookman: get a life. Let’s compare apples and oranges. There is a difference between capital gains taxes and income taxes. You liberals like to do that when it is to your advantage. A part of me wishes that Obama would get elected so you guys could bear the brunt of what he is doing to this country. Liberals:those who are generous with other peoples money.
Progressive: those who progressively want to take more and more from those who already shoulder the majority of the taxes paid in this country.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
12:07 pm
“It’s a lot easier to distinguish the ones worth trusting and relying on if you actually know how to perform them and read them.”
Pollsters are like weathermen: they can predict imminent election results pretty well, but those a month or two in the future not so well. Aside from questions one might have about the continued reliability of polls in the face of increasing technological change, I think to cite them regularly (as Jay does) this far out from the election is silly.
Peter
September 24th, 2012
12:08 pm
Liberals:those who are generous with other peoples money.
Kind of like starting a War in Iraq , not having any type of monies funded for the WAR…….and Bilking the American Public with Cost Plus Contracts ?
stands for decibels
September 24th, 2012
12:09 pm
money-boo-boo
niiiice.
Peter
September 24th, 2012
12:09 pm
Republican’s want WAR spending and Nothing else…….. unless it is welfare for the Rich !
Jefferson
September 24th, 2012
12:12 pm
Is the clown to the left or doing the posting, clarify.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
12:13 pm
The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly. The rich have always objected to being governed at all. ~G. K. Chesterton, English essayist (1874-1936)
Doggone/GA
September 24th, 2012
12:13 pm
“They are…you can always get another job”
And they can always get a job too, if they need more money. But people like Romney ALREADY have an income stream and they will get more money just by sitting on their asses and not doing anything.
Jefferson
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Why not fund Medi care as if it was a unneccessary war ? The GOP talks a game, but performs awfull.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
“If the government makes a conscious decision to provide tax breaks to certain players, then it *is* giving that money away, no matter how much conservative ideologues like to argue otherwise.”
That kind of statement would have made the Founding Fathers laugh, and then tar and feather you.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
ELGRUNIR
You are of course correct..she’s too right wing for me but you gotta admit, there exists no small amount of evidence to support all those suggestions..
Yes, I should have named her…not sure what difference that would make..I’m clearly not bright enough to think of those all on my lonesome..
getalife
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Money boo boo needs more welfare.
Forget those people out of work.
cons can’t stop bowing to the wealthy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Doing a googledy search shows that capital gains taxes has come down significantly from the late 70s. And that coincides with a conscious decision to eschew manufacturing in favor of financial services prognostication.
We’ve been losing manufacturing jobs at the same time that capital gains taxes have been falling, so please don’t try to tell me that capital gains encourages job creation.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Romney has never held office that could change the tax code so don’t blame him for taking deductions that other Democrat’s and Republican’s put into law.
Thank you Mr. Romney for paying way more than your fair share.
Not Blind
September 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Hey idiots. I bet that lots of [D] politicians on capital hill made more money than Romney did ?? Where’s the out cry about them ??? Are you guys on the Ford Foundation payroll ??
stands for decibels
September 24th, 2012
12:15 pm
Pollsters are like weathermen: they can predict imminent election results pretty well, but those a month or two in the future not so well.
That sounds reasonable, but … well, Nate Silver provides a pretty good explanation, today, of how well polls have performed this far out, in the past.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/the-statistical-state-of-the-presidential-race/
the polling by this time in the cycle has been reasonably good, especially when it comes to calling the winners and losers in the race. Of the 19 candidates who led in the polls at this stage since 1936, 18 won the popular vote (Thomas E. Dewey in 1948 is the exception), and 17 won the Electoral College (Al Gore lost it in 2000, along with Mr. Dewey).
Sure, it could change between now and Nov., but that wouldn’t be the smart way to bet.
Doggone/GA
September 24th, 2012
12:15 pm
“Kind of like starting a War in Iraq , not having any type of monies funded for the WAR”
The war WAS funded…what it wasn’t was BUDGETED. It was paid for by off-budget bills.