Poll reveals deep doubts about economic fairness
The Public Religion Research Institute, which says it was “founded to provide high-quality public opinion survey research focused on religion, values, and American public policy,” just released a new nationwide polling study that puts particular focus on the attitudes of the white working class.
For example, the polling conducted in mid-August reported that white working-class voters gave Mitt Romney (48 percent) a 13-point advantage over Barack Obama (35 percent). However, that Romney advantage was due entirely to his 27-point advantage among white working-class men. Among white working-class women, the two candidates were tied. They were also all but tied among college-educated white voters, with Romney ahead by just two percentage points.
Romney’s lead among working-class white Americans could also be explained by his massive margin here in the South, where he led by 40 points, 62 percent to 22 percent. As the study notes, “neither candidate held a statistically significant lead among white working-class voters in the West (46% Romney vs. 41% Obama), Northeast (42% Romney vs. 38% Obama) or the Midwest (36% Romney vs. 44% Obama).”
If you do the math, the chances of a white working-class male in the South supporting Obama become pretty darn small, somewhere around 10-15 percent.
However, the more fascinating parts of the report go deeper, providing interesting data on attitudes regarding wealth and capitalism in modern America:
“Seven in ten (70%) white working-class Americans and over six in 10 (62%) white college-educated Americans believe the economic system in this country unfairly favors the wealthy. A majority (53%) of white working-class Americans also say that one of the big problems in this country is that we don’t give everyone an equal chance in life. However, less than half (48%) of white college-educated Americans agree that it’s not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others.
Substantial majorities of black (78%) and Hispanic (69%) Americans agree that the economic system in this country favors the wealthy. There is, however, a substantial difference in intensity: nearly half (46%) of black Americans strongly agree with this statement, compared to 28% of Hispanic Americans. Over three-quarters (77%) of black Americans and around six in 10 (62%) Hispanic Americans agree that one of the big problems in this country is that we don’t give everyone an equal chance in life.
There are deep political divisions on the issue of equal opportunity. Nearly three-quarters (72%) of Democrats and a slim majority of Independents (53%) agree that one of the big problems in this country is that we don’t give everyone an equal chance, while nearly six in 10 (58%) Republicans say it’s not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others. Similarly, only 44% of Republicans believe that the economic system in this country unfairly favors the wealthy, compared to 85% of Democrats and two-thirds (67%) of Independents.
The poll also explored what you might call the Paul Ryan Dilemma, after the vice presidential nominee who professes both a strong Catholic faith and, until recently at least, a strong affinity for the teachings of Ayn Rand:
“Americans are divided over the extent to which capitalism and the free market system and Christian values can coexist: a plurality (44%) believe that capitalism and the free market system are at odds with Christian values, while 41% agree that capitalism is consistent with Christian values. Fifteen percent say they do not know.
White working-class Americans are significantly more likely than white college-educated Americans to say that capitalism is at odds with Christian values. A majority (53%) of white college-educated Americans agree that capitalism and the free market system are consistent with Christian values, while 35% disagree. By contrast, a plurality (46%) of white working-class Americans believe that capitalism is at odds with Christian values, while 38% disagree.”
Overall 62 percent of white working-class Americans favor raising the tax rate on Americans with household incomes of over $1 million per year. Conversely, the report finds, “A solid majority (58%) of Americans agree that the federal government should provide fewer services and reduce taxes, while slightly more than one-third (36%) say the government should provide more services, even if it means higher taxes.”
These are the deeper currents that political experts in both parties are attempting to turn to their advantage in the next few weeks.
– Jay Bookman
Tell us what you think about the site
Customer Care »
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
AJC Services
Sections
Other Editions
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
573 comments Add your comment
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:50 pm
gop debates were about la la land.
These debates are about the real world.
Let’s pretend for a moment that there’s something true in what you’re saying.
Look at what we have going on in our world. Iran thumping its chest to intimidate us and Israel, the killing of our consulate officers in Libya on 9/11, our administration initially denying that it was a coordinated terrorist attack–for a week. Yet in the media all coverage is directed at Romney and the “47% gaffe”.
The Democrat convention was about women’s health (a non-top-ten issue on any opinion poll), and national security (getting bin Laden).
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: I submit that Democrats are entirely unfit to make declarations about the real world.
The top Democrat lives in a protected bubble and goes on Letterman between the time of an attack on US soil and the time he acknowledges it–even though he still hasn’t addressed the issue personally.
Obama, the cold, flopping fish-President. Let’s all pretend he is a real functioning human being who gives a crap about anything in the real world.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
9:52 pm
“I give you Joe Biden, a man who matches up so poorly against anyone prominent in modern politics ”
Guess you missed the 08 debate with Palin
You betcha
Weak economy, worst president ever according to many on the right, and Embarrassment can’t figure out why Thurston Howell and Eddy Monster are probably going to lose………
Oh well………………..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
9:55 pm
Bumper Sticker:
“Thug and Plugs Must Go”
TaxPayer
September 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
Brown Noser:
Paul “Lyin’” Ryan
Orange12
September 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
Getalife,
Say it isn’t so.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/24/obama-picks-view-over-foreign-policy/
TaxPayer
September 24th, 2012
10:11 pm
Romney is utilizing a narrow definition of the term “tax return” to avoid releasing some of his tax documents to the public. In 2010, for instance, Romney declined to release a form associated with his Swiss bank account.
18,000 owners of Swiss bank accounts came forward under the DoJ’s amnesty program in order to avoid the chance of jail time. Release your full tax returns, Mitt. Let us see the details on those Swiss bank accounts. What are you hiding, Mitt.
Jm
September 24th, 2012
10:12 pm
“Thurston Howell and Eddy Monster ”
“Brown Noser:
Paul “Lyin’” Ryan”
Bumper sticker politics
Libs don’t have much substance
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
10:15 pm
Then you must be a lib
How is that “edited video” working out for you, Mr Substance?
hahahahaha
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
10:15 pm
We just wish…
We?
Who besides you?
Let me know who else you speak for so that I can be sure to check in with you first before addressing them, OK?
Thanks.
I wonder what the odds are on Mitt not making another major league boneheaded verbal gaffe in the first debate.
Fifty fifty?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
10:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5kWLX5SDwk&feature=youtu.be
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:17 pm
“I’d follow their speeches with commentary showing how asinine their thinking and behavior is, but I wouldn’t stop them from talking.”
I take it you have something else in mind besides the mind-numbing “commentary” you get from network “analysts” after a political debate or speech, helping all of us to know just how we should interpret and regard all that was said…
“I’ve never seen words physically harm anybody”
Words DO hurt people and cause harm, even if you can directly observe it (except in tears, anger, withdrawal and the like). You must have a bit of libertarianism in you to suppose “harm” must be immediate, physical and visible.
“Words do nothing unless you allow them to affect you.”
Much easier said than done. Try telling that to a 6 year old being constantly told he is worthless by his alcoholic father.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:20 pm
“From Politico’s Book of Miracles: President Jesus somehow packs 18,000 people into 5,000 seat pavilion…”
Unreported was how he fed the multitude with some snacks from Michelle’s purse…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
10:21 pm
Some Middle Georgia churchgoers can now use their debit or credit card in addition to the traditional donation plate.
The giving kiosk is becoming a part of some churches as a means to offer an easier way to donate and tithe.
“It’s like an ATM machine, but there is no cash in it,” said Keith King, chief operating officer of Beulahland Bible Church, which has campuses in Macon and Byron. “Our senior pastor, Maurice Watson, wanted a more convenient way for people to give.“
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:24 pm
“I have found that those who complain the most about having something shoved down their throats, are the same ones who will swallow anything.”
You know, Kamcheck, there is such a thing as Bartlett’s Book of Quotations. You don’t have to quote only things you find written on bathroom walls.
Jm
September 24th, 2012
10:25 pm
Marsalis. Badass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1eZAjoe82U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
10:26 pm
If Ann Romney hadn’t had that baby panda strangled because “it looked at her funny” this wouldn’t be a story.
Heh, heh, heh.
Jm
September 24th, 2012
10:27 pm
Tbs 10:15
I’ve moved on
Why don’t you tell me what’s in the missing minutes….
I await your answer
Don't Tread
September 24th, 2012
10:34 pm
“Plugs” – now that’s funny
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:37 pm
One difference between Obama and Romney is their view of how to make a business work:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/chevrolets-volt-selling-but-not-at-sticker-price/
GM is losing thousands of dollars on every Volt, raising the question of how long it can keep absorbing the steep losses.
GM executives have conceded from the start that they were losing money on the Volt, and that was before the big discounts.
Now the losses could be even higher. It costs $60,000 to $75,000 to build a Volt, including development, manufacturing and raw materials, estimates Sandy Munro, president of Munro & Associates, a Troy, Mich., a company that analyzes vehicle production expenses for automakers. Much of the cost comes from an expensive combination of two power systems — electric and gasoline. With a sticker price of $40,000, minus the $10,000 the company pays in incentives, GM gets roughly $30,000 for every Volt. So it could be losing at least $30,000 per car.
Doh!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
10:38 pm
Occupy Unmasked movie starring Andrew Breitbart opens this week. I won’t spoil the ending for you, but if you’ve seen Ole Yeller….
Heh, heh, heh.
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:38 pm
“Religion is creeping further and further into the secular”
The poster making the above comment represents the epitome of an IDIOT.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:39 pm
I guess you should save your breath, Jay:
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/24/howard_stern_interviews_obama_supporters_2012.html
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:41 pm
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:50 pm
gop debates were about la la land.
These debates are about the real world.
Let’s pretend for a moment that there’s something true in what you’re saying.
Look at what we have going on in our world. Iran thumping its chest to intimidate us and Israel, the killing of our consulate officers in Libya on 9/11, our administration initially denying that it was a coordinated terrorist attack–for a week. Yet in the media all coverage is directed at Romney and the “47% gaffe”.
The Democrat convention was about women’s health (a non-top-ten issue on any opinion poll), and national security (getting bin Laden).
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: I submit that Democrats are entirely unfit to make declarations about the real world.
The top Democrat lives in a protected bubble and goes on Letterman between the time of an attack on US soil and the time he acknowledges it–even though he still hasn’t addressed the issue personally.
Obama, the cold, flopping fish-President. Let’s all pretend he is a real functioning human being who gives a crap about anything in the real world.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
And let’s pretend that folks who DON’T listen to Neal, Sean, and Rush shive a git about their fabricated hot issues. Oh wait, I can’t pretend that, to far fetched.
Look sport, just because you are dumb enough to think there is some sort of “story” in anything in this post doesn’t mean that anyone other than your scaredy-cat fright wing talk show listening buddies does.
While I have seen every bit of this hogwash posted ad nausem this week, this one takes the cake because you have posted it all together. Together or separate, it’s still garbage.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
10:45 pm
Why do the Romneys pay so little in taxes?
By now, most of us have probably heard that Mitt and Ann Romney paid just under $2 million in taxes on income — virtually all from investments — of just under $14 million for 2011, an effective tax rate of 14.1%. This is a low tax rate, lower than the typical middle-class American worker pays, especially when one considers payroll taxes, the largest burden for most Americans. It should concern us that individuals of Romney’s wealth — analysis has put his personal fortune as high as $250 million, not counting some $100 million in trusts set up for his five children — pay so little as a percent in taxes.
Since so much of his money is hidden overseas, I say outsource Mitt and Ann there…
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:45 pm
“Religion is creeping further and further into the secular”
“The poster making the above comment represents the epitome of an IDIOT.”
Hmm…I thought it was the other way around for some time now. But hey – what do I know?
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:46 pm
Poll reveals deep doubts about economic fairness
Oblunda’s performance on 60 Minutes (sans teleprompter) reveals deep doubts about his overall competence AND confirms the obvious conclusion that he is a DOLT. If you plan to vote for this loser, then you are one too!
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:47 pm
Orange12
September 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
Getalife,
Say it isn’t so.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/24/obama-picks-view-over-foreign-policy/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Are you always this slow or are you just so low one the republican spam list that you are just hearing about this non issue?
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
10:48 pm
Who cares? Maybe you, who cares? If there was anything to it that could have been used by the Romney campaign to throw it back in the Dems face, even a simple guy like yourself knows it would have already been shown
But keep HOPE ALIVE……
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:49 pm
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:46 pm
Poll reveals deep doubts about economic fairness
Oblunda’s performance on 60 Minutes (sans teleprompter) reveals deep doubts about his overall competence AND confirms the obvious conclusion that he is a DOLT. If you plan to vote for this loser, then you are one too!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
This is the grand sum of the Republican party and the idiots that make it up. Use stupid names for the Presidebnt, insult him and then insult anyone who votes for him. It’s also a tactic that pre-schoolers use when they get in a poutrage at another classmate.
Weee ha.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
10:50 pm
Multiple melt-downs.
They won’t last until election night.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:50 pm
“But keep HOPE ALIVE……”
Aren’t you a professed “independent”? You don’t come off that way very often…
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:52 pm
But keep HOPE ALIVE…
I must stipulate that Obama has accomplished at least this one thing; he destroyed HOPE.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:52 pm
When I read the CRAP that the fanatical fright wing fanatical lunatics post here it REALLY makes me want to vote Republican lol.
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:53 pm
Use stupid names for the Presidebnt,
RACIST
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
10:54 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:49 pm
You sure that is just a trait of republicans?
I could have been sure I have seen people post similar things about republican voters and the former republican president and/or the republican nominee for president.
So does it really bother you like you claim in your post or does it only bother you when people do it with whom you disagree?
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:55 pm
“This is the grand sum of the Republican party and the idiots that make it up.”
Aren’t you a professed “independent”? You don’t come off that way very often…
“Use stupid names for the President, insult him and then insult anyone who votes for him.”
You mean like JamVet, getalife, Sinkwich, and a number of others?
“It’s also a tactic that pre-schoolers use when they get in a poutrage at another classmate.”
Wow…I didn’t realize how many “pre-schoolers” (on both ends of the ideological spectrum) post on Jay’s blog.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:55 pm
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:53 pm
Use stupid names for the Presidebnt,
+++++++++++++++++++++
That’s fat fingers lol. You should try to read crap I text……….
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
10:56 pm
TC
And I guess you have a post where I have said as much? No, you do not.
I have stated numerous that I do lean left, but have never voted a straight ticket except for 1988. The 1st time I was eligible to vote and voted a straight Republican ticket.
I do not think that Democrats govern any better than Republicans. They are all power hungry.
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
10:56 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
10:52 pm
When I read the CRAP that the fanatical fright wing fanatical lunatics post here it REALLY makes me want to vote Republican lol.
**************************
Thanks, but we don’t need your vote; assuming you will be sober enough to make it to your polling place..
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
10:57 pm
TC
Are you not a professed Christian? You do not often come across that way very much or at least anything close to the ones I know
TaxPayer
September 24th, 2012
10:58 pm
If Mitt wants a jet with cranks on the windows, he should build himself one and then give it a test flight and roll down those windows while cruising at 50,000 ft. I’m a firm believer in Mitt learning a little about science first-hand. Maybe afterwards he’ll even be qualified to speak a little more intelligibly on such topics as global warming.
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
10:58 pm
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:55 pm
It’s only Republican preschoolers!
Didn’t you read the post only republicans were mentioned in the rant.
Thus one can only assume the poster does not feel democrats do what he complains about.
Or possibly it was an accidental omission on his/her behalf to be fair.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
10:59 pm
At the end of the failed mccain campaign, all they did was sling poo too.
Repeat of 08.
They got nothing to offer the American people.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
10:59 pm
TC
Speaking of preschoolers, would it be safe to say you do not ever call names on this blog?
hahahahaha
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:00 pm
“And I guess you have a post where I have said as much? No, you do not. ”
Why the moniker and your occasional reference to it then?
“I have stated numerous that I do lean left, but have never voted a straight ticket except for 1988.”
Even if you hadn’t, I would have guessed as much. It is pretty obvious at times.
“I do not think that Democrats govern any better than Republicans.”
I don’t quite believe you.
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
11:00 pm
That’s fat fingers lol. You should try to read crap I text…
Time is too precious AND, I never had much use for the lazy
…
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:00 pm
Kam
I was waiting for the heads exploding like a firework show on election night, but we may not get there…….
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:01 pm
Aren’t you a professed “independent”? You don’t come off that way very often…
There are two reasons for that. One: you see EVERYTHING that isn’t lock step with your hard right wing fanatical views as “librul.” And Two: There is just so much more stupidity and a lack of truth coming from the right at this point in time. The left is being smart and only pointing out the lunacy of the right. What is the right’s focus right now? Why all those NON-issues that the funkynamed idiot posted all in one post. How depressing……
Use stupid names for the President, insult him and then insult anyone who votes for him.”
You mean like JamVet, getalife, Sinkwich, and a number of others?
Actually Stinkie is one of you far right wing fanatics so you probably shouldn’t have included him in your “excuse.” As to that excuse? Really? Because Johnny Joe has no brains or class that means you have to mimic him? And you don’t see how preschool THAT behavior is? Really?
Just damn.
Ahem
September 24th, 2012
11:01 pm
getalife
September 24th, 2012
10:59 pm
Who lifted the rock?
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:02 pm
Thanks, but we don’t need your vote; assuming you will be sober enough to make it to your polling place..
Oh I’m sure I’ll be there sport as I am the poll manager. As to sobriety? I would have to be fall down drunk and hit the wrong button to vote for any republicans. Also given the crap you post I would HOPE you are drunk and not really that stupid……..
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:02 pm
TC
I do not care what you believe. Did you actually think that even for a second
I believe you are a Christian because you say so, but you have a piss poor way of demonstrating it at times
I’ve never posted thinking what TC will think of my post or me.
Do not flatter yourself.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Marty Huggins’
September 24th, 2012
10:58 pm
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:55 pm
It’s only Republican preschoolers!
Didn’t you read the post only republicans were mentioned in the rant.
Thus one can only assume the poster does not feel democrats do what he complains about.
Or possibly it was an accidental omission on his/her behalf to be fair.
++++++++++++++++++++
And here is anotherone blaming his poor behavior on little Johnny Joe down the street.
Don’t you folks take personal responsibility for ANYTHING?
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
TC
Go find yourself some who is a Jew or not a Jew justification.
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
Well, gee…. Liberals who are never responsible for anything saying a financial system that’s leaving them behind isn’t fair. Shocker!!!
Never mind the lack of a HS degree, GED, 8 jobs in the last 3 years, degree in human studies/history/sociology/basket weaving/pizza delivery/etc. It must be the systems’s fault!!! Geez….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
BOTH
And here I have all of these bookmarked predictions.
Maybe I can post them the day after at Kyle’s and go out over there with a bang. I understand he has a rule against gloating.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:07 pm
Kam
I might get run off from both blogs myself………….
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:08 pm
“Are you not a professed Christian? You do not often come across that way very much or at least anything close to the ones I know…”
And what do you know of Christianity? I think Jesus might really get under your skin a bit. He didn’t get crucified because he made nice with everyone. He called king Herod a fox, religious hypocrites “white washed tombs”, others a “brood of vipers” and so on.
Now, I believe he always spoke the truth in love (which I do not) and do not wish to justify my own wrongdoing by what I have said above. But I think you probably need to get a more Biblical image of Jesus than a long-haired Caucasian bearing a ewe on his shoulders.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:09 pm
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
Well, gee…. Liberals who are never responsible for anything saying a financial system that’s leaving them behind isn’t fair. Shocker!!!
Never mind the lack of a HS degree, GED, 8 jobs in the last 3 years, degree in human studies/history/sociology/basket weaving/pizza delivery/etc. It must be the systems’s fault!!! Geez….
++++++++++++++++
Now wait a minute. How can you lack a HS degree and a GED yet STILL have a degree in human studies/history/sociology/basket weaving/pizza delivery/etc? You’ve been using those for profit degree mills haven’t you?
Don’t get down on yourself RB. You tell enough Republican lies and Mitt will invite you out on his Cayman Islands flagged yacht………….
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:11 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Wrong again!
When did I blame any behavior of mine as you say?
All I did was question your rant.
I am not excusin it I think they are all over the top only difference I see both sides do it.
You obviously do not.
But you do gotta love a person who calls others out for calling the president names and those who plan to vote for Obama names then comes out and calls those who dare to disagree with him Preschoolers!
Since you seem to want to talk about me taking responsibility for your actions.
Can you show me any instance of me doing what your rant was about or are you going to do the adult thing and apologize for you accusing me of doing things that are obviously untrue?
So let’s see some responsibility for YOUR actions!
Or do you isn’t prefer to tell others how they should behave?
Do as you say not as you do right?
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:11 pm
Hey dumd ass, I mean TC
I grew up in church, so do not come with your high and mighty typical TC bs with me……..
Go cure some gays or tell a Jewish person they are not Jewish
Or whatever else you do
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:12 pm
Guess I wasn’t too smart either on that last post
dumb ass
hahahaha
But you get the point
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:12 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Specific examples now of my poor behavior as you call it!
I’ll be waiting!
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:15 pm
TC
Stealing a line from Fred, “I’d pray for you, but I don’t pray”
Thanks for that one, Fred.
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow.
Get into your good book TC. Clean up your backyard before you worry about others. That will be your 1st step to making a positive impact
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:16 pm
“Actually Stinkie is one of you far right wing fanatics so you probably shouldn’t have included him in your “excuse.” As to that excuse? Really? Because Johnny Joe has no brains or class that means you have to mimic him?”
Huh? You think I use them as an excuse? I don’t disrespect the office Obama holds by calling him names. And I use a whole lot of sarcasm and irony to criticize the some of the views or statements of liberals here. Sometimes I go overboard and say some truly demeaning things. But I will never justify or “excuse” that.
But as for your posts, the unintended irony above is remarkable.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:17 pm
Marty Huggins’
September 24th, 2012
11:12 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Specific examples now of my poor behavior as you call it!
I’ll be waiting!
+++++++++++++++++
Why? You duck and dodge and lie and twist things like you did before. Refusing to acknowledge the truth doesn’t make it not true. Play your pre-school games with someone else, I expect a higher intelligence.
Oh and don’t forget to declare mission accomplished lol because I won’t stoop to your lack of sense in posting.
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:18 pm
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
What is wrong with a degree in History?
I understand many college students think that a degree is all it takes and that is not true but why knock a fields degree?
Sociology, who do you think make up Dovision of Family Children Services?
Hint you need a degree in sociology or a related field.
But I guess we dont DFCS workers though, especially not educated ones in the study of how humans interact with one another.
Nah it would be better to leave the 8 yr old on her own to defend herself against her dad or uncle right?
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:18 pm
crier,
When you call out the cons for the name calling?
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:19 pm
Dovision
Should be division.
Most likely not only mistake just jumped out at me.
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:20 pm
Fred, to try to explain my post to you would be pointless…
Towncrier, are the Godless liberals trying to quote scripture to justify silencing Christians again? Funny they never quote “go and sin no more” isn’t it? But as the parts of the Bible they never read say, they’re hearts are hardened to the truth. I do wonder when the Christians in the D party will figure out they actually have very little in common with the athiests who have taken over. It looks like the black clergy are starting to get a clue with the gay marriage issue. Maybe they’re starting to wake up a bit. One can only hope.
Wildwood
September 24th, 2012
11:20 pm
For the ignorant-one earns ordinary income and pays ordinary tax rates which are higher. The person may have inherited the cash after the deceased estates paid estate taxes the individual then invests and pays lower capital gains rate on earnings. The effective rate on the value creation is well over 50% There are those who watch. There are those who wonder. There are a few that do. I will add a fourth category worthless people who dwell
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:21 pm
But as for your posts, the unintended irony above is remarkable.
What unintended irony? Stinkie? Calling Stinkowhich ,Stinkie is no different than shortening Thulsa Dooms name to Doomy, or someone addressing you as TC, or Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes as Kammie. or Brochephus as Bro………
Your example fails.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:22 pm
Fred, to try to explain my post to you would be pointless…
You are correct because I would continue to point out the lies and the lack of reasoned thought in them and you don’t want that to happen……..
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:23 pm
Republicans sure as HELL don’t want anyone to study history…………….
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:23 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:17 pm
Awweeeee Fred,
What no examples just you spouting your mouth off?
Should be easy you said I was blamming my bad behavior on Jimmy Joe I believe it was!
All I’m asking it what bad behavior specifically?
Or do you have nothing and you lack the character to apologize for your mistake?
Just like every Bully I ever knew you talk a lot and pontificate your crap but when called on it you dodge and hide.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:24 pm
“Hey dumd ass, I mean TC”
Oops…look who is calling people names now. What did you say? “Clean up your backyard before you worry about others.”
“I grew up in church, so do not come with your high and mighty typical TC bs with me…”
So? And that proves or signifies what exactly?
“Go cure some gays or tell a Jewish person they are not Jewish. Or whatever else you do.”
Thanks for that sage advice.
“I do not care what you believe…I’ve never posted thinking what TC will think of my post or me. Do not flatter yourself.”
I have to admit – you have me stumped. What ever gave you the impression that I thought you did? What an odd response.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:25 pm
Enter your comments here
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:25 pm
“Republicans sure as HELL don’t want anyone to study history…”
And your proof for this grandiose generalization would be…?
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:26 pm
Marty Huggins’
September 24th, 2012
10:58 pm
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
10:55 pm
It’s only Republican preschoolers!
Didn’t you read the post only republicans were mentioned in the rant.
Thus one can only assume the poster does not feel democrats do what he complains about.
=====================================
There is your cheap excuse. Last time. Lie it away all you want but there it is. Thanks for playing.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:27 pm
Way to bow down wild.
You kids can’t even get a good job.
The karma comes when they can’t take care of you when you are old.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:30 pm
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:25 pm
“Republicans sure as HELL don’t want anyone to study history…”
And your proof for this grandiose generalization would be…?
++++++++++++++++++++
Sorry TC, I misread Marty’s 11:18. I thought he said something different. Others right wingers in the past have made fun of a History degree (why I can’t fathom other than Neal or Rush do). But that wasn’t the case here. I just misread.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:31 pm
“Towncrier, are the Godless liberals trying to quote scripture to justify silencing Christians again?”
Well, RB, not too many liberals here quote the Bible much at all – they tend to draw their conclusions and “understanding” about Christianity from attending church as a child, preachers they may see on television, people around them who profess to be believers but who live their lives no differently (going to bars, strip clubs, cursing left and right, having sex out of marriage, owning pornography, lying and stealing) and so on. They seem loathe to actually read the Bible, however.
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:32 pm
Marty, I’ve spent the evening looking through close to 100 resume’s looking for an employee. Perhaps I should have used one of maybe 60 other useless degrees instead of history or sociology?
I really liked the resume’ that said “Excellent written verbal and written communication skills”. I guess you have to take their word for that, eh?!!
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:32 pm
Marshawn Lynch needs to get a cramp dammit. I’m only winning this fantasy game by 7.3 points and if he gets 10 more yards and scores a touchdown I go to 0-3………
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:32 pm
Well they sure can’t draw any conclusions from TC……….
just saying
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:34 pm
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:32 pm
Marty, I’ve spent the evening looking through close to 100 resume’s looking for an employee. Perhaps I should have used one of maybe 60 other useless degrees instead of history or sociology?
I really liked the resume’ that said “Excellent written verbal and written communication skills”. I guess you have to take their word for that, eh?!!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks to Georgia Republican policies for the last 10 years we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the Country. You should have plenty to choose from. What kind of position are you hiring? Someone to pull wings off of democratic flies lol?
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:34 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:26 pm
That’s me having poor behavior really?
Did you mention any democrats?
Did you not later go onto say the only thIng the democrats do is call the Republicans on their lunacy?
Well if that is all they do my original post is true and proved.
Unlike your statement of me blaming bad behavior on Jimmy Joe or whoever.
See here is where you even type “only”
“And Two: There is just so much more stupidity and a lack of truth coming from the right at this point in time. The left is being smart and only pointing out the lunacy of the right”
Still waiting!
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
11:34 pm
Well they could draw conclusions, but it probably will not be good ones
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:37 pm
Marty: Because you don’t understand the written word and wish to twist a post to mean something that was not meant does not make it so. Wait til your rear end glues itself to your chair, I don’t care. I’m not responding to something I didn’t say. Keep on trying…………
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:37 pm
Fred, how about an example of any lie I’ve told? You made the claim, can you back it up?
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:37 pm
Get your religion out of my politics.
It was a Christian that made that stupid movie.
Whack jobs.
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:38 pm
“Didn’t you read the post only republicans were mentioned in the rant. Thus one can only assume the poster does not feel democrats do what he complains about. Or possibly it was an accidental omission on his/her behalf to be fair.”
Well, I think in cooler moments, most libs and cons would admit it is done on both sides.
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:38 pm
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:32 pm
I get that you are frustrated but is that a reason to put down an entire discipline.
It weakens your argument to just use over exaggerated examples.
I agree many were fooled into thinking any degree would do just get a degree mentality.
There is a debate to be had as to why so many college students have this impression when they arrive at college
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:40 pm
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:05 pm
Well, gee…. Liberals who are never responsible for anything saying a financial system that’s leaving them behind isn’t fair. Shocker!!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
That statement by definition is a lie.
Too simple…….
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:41 pm
Fred, “Thanks to Georgia Republican policies for the last 10 years we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the Country. You should have plenty to choose from. What kind of position are you hiring? Someone to pull wings off of democratic flies lol?”
I don’t suppose you’d care to look up the unemployment rates in states with R governors vs. D governors would you?
Didn’t think so. You just keep your head firmly implanted, Fred. You wouln’d want to know anything resembling facts or truths would you?
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
11:41 pm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:37 pm
What did you not say?
Because you claim the only thing Democrats do is to call out republicans nothing more nothing less.
You did say that! Which backed up my assumption from your previous post.
So again what have I done to show poor behavior?
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
11:42 pm
It would be different if TC were a real Christian. (grin)
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
11:43 pm
“Well they sure can’t draw any conclusions from TC…”
I thought you had left for the evening. Guess you are all worked up because I dared to challenge your implied political independence.
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:44 pm
RB from Gwinnett
September 24th, 2012
11:41 pm
Fred, “Thanks to Georgia Republican policies for the last 10 years we have one of the highest unemployment rates in the Country. You should have plenty to choose from. What kind of position are you hiring? Someone to pull wings off of democratic flies lol?”
I don’t suppose you’d care to look up the unemployment rates in states with R governors vs. D governors would you?
Didn’t think so. You just keep your head firmly implanted, Fred. You wouln’d want to know anything resembling facts or truths would you?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Your lies are so easy to debunk. You’ll have to scroll down to 44 to find Georgia……..
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm
Fred ™
September 24th, 2012
11:45 pm
So again what have I done to show poor behavior?
I never said you did. i used “his” universally and you have chosen to try to make it into the personal. Had I meant you I would have SAID you.
Quit twisting words. Now THAT (twisting words) is bad behavior.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
11:46 pm
What?
crier finally said cons do it too?
It’s a freakin miracle.