Poll reveals deep doubts about economic fairness
The Public Religion Research Institute, which says it was “founded to provide high-quality public opinion survey research focused on religion, values, and American public policy,” just released a new nationwide polling study that puts particular focus on the attitudes of the white working class.
For example, the polling conducted in mid-August reported that white working-class voters gave Mitt Romney (48 percent) a 13-point advantage over Barack Obama (35 percent). However, that Romney advantage was due entirely to his 27-point advantage among white working-class men. Among white working-class women, the two candidates were tied. They were also all but tied among college-educated white voters, with Romney ahead by just two percentage points.
Romney’s lead among working-class white Americans could also be explained by his massive margin here in the South, where he led by 40 points, 62 percent to 22 percent. As the study notes, “neither candidate held a statistically significant lead among white working-class voters in the West (46% Romney vs. 41% Obama), Northeast (42% Romney vs. 38% Obama) or the Midwest (36% Romney vs. 44% Obama).”
If you do the math, the chances of a white working-class male in the South supporting Obama become pretty darn small, somewhere around 10-15 percent.
However, the more fascinating parts of the report go deeper, providing interesting data on attitudes regarding wealth and capitalism in modern America:
“Seven in ten (70%) white working-class Americans and over six in 10 (62%) white college-educated Americans believe the economic system in this country unfairly favors the wealthy. A majority (53%) of white working-class Americans also say that one of the big problems in this country is that we don’t give everyone an equal chance in life. However, less than half (48%) of white college-educated Americans agree that it’s not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others.
Substantial majorities of black (78%) and Hispanic (69%) Americans agree that the economic system in this country favors the wealthy. There is, however, a substantial difference in intensity: nearly half (46%) of black Americans strongly agree with this statement, compared to 28% of Hispanic Americans. Over three-quarters (77%) of black Americans and around six in 10 (62%) Hispanic Americans agree that one of the big problems in this country is that we don’t give everyone an equal chance in life.
There are deep political divisions on the issue of equal opportunity. Nearly three-quarters (72%) of Democrats and a slim majority of Independents (53%) agree that one of the big problems in this country is that we don’t give everyone an equal chance, while nearly six in 10 (58%) Republicans say it’s not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others. Similarly, only 44% of Republicans believe that the economic system in this country unfairly favors the wealthy, compared to 85% of Democrats and two-thirds (67%) of Independents.
The poll also explored what you might call the Paul Ryan Dilemma, after the vice presidential nominee who professes both a strong Catholic faith and, until recently at least, a strong affinity for the teachings of Ayn Rand:
“Americans are divided over the extent to which capitalism and the free market system and Christian values can coexist: a plurality (44%) believe that capitalism and the free market system are at odds with Christian values, while 41% agree that capitalism is consistent with Christian values. Fifteen percent say they do not know.
White working-class Americans are significantly more likely than white college-educated Americans to say that capitalism is at odds with Christian values. A majority (53%) of white college-educated Americans agree that capitalism and the free market system are consistent with Christian values, while 35% disagree. By contrast, a plurality (46%) of white working-class Americans believe that capitalism is at odds with Christian values, while 38% disagree.”
Overall 62 percent of white working-class Americans favor raising the tax rate on Americans with household incomes of over $1 million per year. Conversely, the report finds, “A solid majority (58%) of Americans agree that the federal government should provide fewer services and reduce taxes, while slightly more than one-third (36%) say the government should provide more services, even if it means higher taxes.”
These are the deeper currents that political experts in both parties are attempting to turn to their advantage in the next few weeks.
– Jay Bookman
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Doggone/GA
September 24th, 2012
7:11 pm
“Why would any white person vote ”
Ahhh…somebody left the cell door open I see
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
7:11 pm
EC
We have one on here who comes close to that language and he isn’t a Democrat…….
That Black Guy
September 24th, 2012
7:11 pm
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
6:05 pm
“Blurple”
I think I just scared my neighbor’s dogs from laughing so hard!!!
I haven’t heard that one in a while…
_______________________________________
Bro, I’m about the same complexion as you, but we used to tease my brother, saying the only reason there are light skinned people was because God used all the Black up on him.
Yeah, I got a good azz wuppin over that one.
Stevie Ray, nah, like my ex says, Obama is “pecan tan” like her.
Marty Huggins'
September 24th, 2012
7:13 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
September 24th, 2012
6:25 pm
As far as the letter….Put her full name maiden name may be needed as well. Her date of birth, current address and the story of how she came to that conclusion at the time( when she was 13)
She needs to send this to the local Bishop.
As far as her being in trouble with the church, it does not have to be her, it could be her family. The church holds the family in the same regard as the individual, almost.
I saw later where you said her father had an issue with a church leader or church elder. If that is the case I regretfully I form you they most likely have included your wife into any dispute that was going on at the time.
If she sends this type of letter and still the church is resistant to her membership removal she needs to contact the national office. And depending on your residence the church may be breaking civil if not criminal law. Exxon that to the national office if nothing is resolved to not hesitate to alert your attorney.
The folks coming by the house thou, that’s kinda who they are doesn’t matter if you were a member or not that is a part of their mission work. They simply know of your wife and thus transition the conversation to her membership.
Just be polite and tell them no thank you we or she has made up her mind please leave.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
7:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6Zx_fzpq8
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
7:16 pm
“Why admit you have the weakest candidate in eighty years when you can blame somebody, anybody else!”
Hmmm…in recent times, I was under the impression it was Hubert Humphrey, Mike Dukakis or Bob Dole. Thanks for clearing that up.
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:17 pm
Both…that poster is obviously try to paint the right….Do you honestly think that anyone with that mindset is actually evolved enough to use a computer?…..who btw?…I’m here enough…Bernie comes to mind for his use of CAPS and stupid statements
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
7:17 pm
Some folks is even blacker than me…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaLS9qiLxIU&playnext=1&list=PL111F9DB17B31F91D&feature=results_video
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
7:18 pm
Oky…cya all later…
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
7:18 pm
Ask that Republican bastion of Georgia intelligence, Newt about the weakest candidate in eighty years, he’ll set you straight.
It is where I got the line from…
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
7:19 pm
TBG
Sounds about like one of my cousins. Everybody in the family calls him “Black”, and he answers to it.
Mary Elizabeth
September 24th, 2012
7:23 pm
They BOTH suck, 7:15 pm
I enjoyed hearing Simon and Garfunkel. Nice song. Thanks.
ragnar danneskjold
September 24th, 2012
7:23 pm
Funny David Burge line:
From Politico’s Book of Miracles: President Jesus somehow packs 18,000 people into 5,000 seat pavilion
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/23/Media-Put-18000-in-5000-Seat-Arena-for-Obama …
ragnar danneskjold
September 24th, 2012
7:25 pm
Dear Fred @ 5:48, good evening, sad truth, leftists do not seem to know that.
That Black Guy
September 24th, 2012
7:26 pm
Heading home.
Play nice, Fred.
You big (and getting smaller by the day) meanie, you.
TBS, check your email.
F. Sinkwich
September 24th, 2012
7:26 pm
Well, after thinking about Jay’s “economic fairness” thing, I’ve decided I need some.
Seems like almost every lib ilk on this blog has bragged about six figure salaries and ownership of businesses to refute well established economic principles, it’s time for you here to ante up.
In an effort to help you be fair, please remit some redistribution to me.
PayPal is cool.
Thanks in advance.
ragnar danneskjold
September 24th, 2012
7:29 pm
Great essay explaining in simple language why Chauncey’s response to the murder of the American ambassador was ignorant:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444358804578014534111905680.html?mod=europe_opinion
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
7:29 pm
I kinda miss Nutty Newt and 999 Herman.
I was hoping that one of them would win the nomination and then pick the other as his running mate.
The 2012 Georgia Groper ticket!
Obviously it’s not as if Georgia conservatives have any shame, so what is another good laugh at their expense?!
(Lock up the women and children!)
St Simons
September 24th, 2012
7:29 pm
I see those RNC sponsored posts all over the innertubes these days
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:36 pm
good read rag
Oderrick
September 24th, 2012
7:37 pm
“…Romney’s lead among working-class white Americans could also be explained by his massive margin here in the South,…”
Here in the South. Where you are, Jay. Bubba you are a bit of a fish out of water aren’t you?
Donovan
September 24th, 2012
7:37 pm
You liberal lunatics are working overtime in your propaganda. I witnessed the same repulsive push just ahead of GW’s victory in both elections he won.
Have you no shame?
Peadawg
September 24th, 2012
7:40 pm
Donovan
September 24th, 2012
7:37 pm
The GOP shouldn’t dish it out if they’re too chicken s*t to take it.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
7:43 pm
EC
You could be 100% correct. Bernie could be a culprit, but let’s be honest here, there is one right leaning blogger who let’s say pushes the racial issues to say the least
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:43 pm
Pea…I think they are about to release the beast…..or lose
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:45 pm
Both…help me out….it could be i skip over the poster on habit
F. Sinkwich
September 24th, 2012
7:45 pm
“Have you no shame?”
Lib ilks have none at all.
Murder of an ambassador, first since another lib ilk hero was in office, Jimmy Carter?
Just a bump in the road. Move on, nothing to see here…
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
7:46 pm
EC
Either way, it was a stupid post.
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:47 pm
Gator Joe?
Peadawg
September 24th, 2012
7:48 pm
“about to release the beast”
That’s what he said.
Doggone/GA
September 24th, 2012
7:50 pm
“Just a bump in the road. Move on, nothing to see here…”
LIke the thousands of soldiers killed and wounded in Iraq for weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist? Nothing to see here for damn sure.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
7:50 pm
EC
Don’t want to throw the guy under the bus, but he is a regular. He doesn’t type in all caps, but he has posted some incendiary stuff, things along the lines of “hasn’t been long since ‘they’ came out of the trees” and many others.
Again, it was a stupid post regardless of who posted it.
I tend to think some of the folks on these blogs probably do not even vote. They just choose a side and go after the other side for the shock value
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:52 pm
That’s what he said.
perfect context
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
7:56 pm
Both….got it…..and got it…I think….our own personal perspectives provide different contexts, I try and give benefit of the doubt….it’s a blog, nothin’ serious
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
7:58 pm
Seems like almost every lib ilk on this blog has bragged about six figure salaries and ownership of businesses to refute well established economic principles, it’s time for you here to ante up.
Seems like somebody picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue. That is, unless you’re calling Ben Shockley/Harry Callahan/or whatever name he wants to use a lib ilk….
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
7:58 pm
ME
your welcome
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
8:00 pm
Donny, pace yourself.
Or you’re gonna blow a gasket in the next six weeks!
Obama Sweep! Now Leads in All Key States, Even N.C., Nevada, Colo.
President Barack Obama leads GOP challenger Mitt Romney, according to polls in 10 key swing states, with margins ranging from as little as 4 percentage points to as many as 12 percentage points, according to multiple national and state polls. ~Newsmax.com
Ol' Timer
September 24th, 2012
8:00 pm
Regardless of the opinions of the religious folk, I agree with H.L. Mencken who said, “In this world of sin and sorrow there is much to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I’m not a Republican.”
Selah!
Paul
September 24th, 2012
8:04 pm
Ol’ Timer
As they say in Blogland:
“I don’t care who you are, thass funny!”
and with that,
Pleasant evening, all -
Mr_B
September 24th, 2012
8:12 pm
TBS: I’d have to go with Bernie playing “agent provocateur.” Nobody else could get a cap lock key that stuck.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
8:15 pm
The wealthy will be fine without your help cons.
If you worried about your kids making it like you worried about the rich getting richer, we will be fine too.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
8:16 pm
Mr B
Could be. I noticed he has been posting his same bigoted Mormon tripe at Wingfield’s but under another name.
That dude is whacked out.
Erwin's cat
September 24th, 2012
8:16 pm
Mr_B … no need to jump on the B bandwagon it’s a guess that i should not have made….posters stand on their own merit
Mr_B
September 24th, 2012
8:19 pm
TBS and Erwin: I have to admit that I think Bernie is one of those “ilk” that Sinkwich is always griping about.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
8:19 pm
Mr B
He is certainly out there or putting on a damn good act.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 24th, 2012
8:21 pm
How many actual jobs were created with the vast sums that flowed into Mitt Romney’s personal coffers as income? I’d love to know.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 24th, 2012
8:23 pm
Mean to say: How many actual jobs were created with the vast sums that flowed into Mitt Romney’s personal coffers as income last year? I’d love to know.
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
8:25 pm
I have to admit that I think Bernie is one of those “ilk” that Sinkwich is always griping about.
I think Sinkwich hears voices in his head, but that’s just me…
I can’t figure why so many people have so much piss and vinegar in their veins nowadays.
Jay
September 24th, 2012
8:28 pm
Why would any white person vote for that RACIST, MUSLIM, HOMOSEXUAL, SOCIALIST, BLACK PANTHER supporting, JOB KILLING, INCOME REDISTRIBUTION of WHITE MONEY to LAZY, UNEDUCATED, CRIMINAL BLACKS?
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Ummm, just to p.ss off people like you, Big Nick?
And no, he doesn’t appear to be a regular of any kind. Just an idgit passing through in the night.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
8:30 pm
Instead of slapping each other (figuratively) how about a nice discussion question. No agenda …….. and no right or wrong answer:
In my prior career I was at the U.N. General Assembly this time of the year. I always looked forward to it as there’s always something to do in New York and September weather there is beautiful. Usually, I was assigned as the Detail Leader or Assistant Detail Leader for a foreign head of state.
Here’s today’s article:
(Reuters) – Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday disregarded a U.N. warning to avoid incendiary rhetoric and declared ahead of the annual General Assembly session that Israel has no roots in the Middle East and would be “eliminated.”
Questions:
1) If the U.N. had been founded in 1935 should Hitler have been allowed to speak at the 1939 General Assembly?
2) Should Ahmadinejad be allowed to speak at this General Assembly?
Mr_B
September 24th, 2012
8:31 pm
Jay@ 8:28. THAT’s good to know……I think.
Bro: Them ain’t voices, them’s echoes.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
8:34 pm
Nobody else could get a cap lock key that stuck.
Meh.
You shoulda been around when Engrish major George Somethingorother was here.
TaxPayer
September 24th, 2012
8:35 pm
Romney said the biggest problem in a distressed aircraft is that “the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous.”
Because if you could just pop those suckers open at 50,000 ft, it would just suck that smoke right outta there, yessiree!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 24th, 2012
8:36 pm
I can’t figure why so many people have so much piss and vinegar in their veins nowadays.
Well, maybe some of us don’t have a wife we can jump on anytime we feel like it. Some of us are out-weighed at home by about 220 lbs. Maybe some of us need to let it all hang out here.
Mr_B
September 24th, 2012
8:38 pm
Scout: Question 1) Yes. It might have prevented Sept. 1939. Or at least provided more warning.
Question 2) Yes. The Israelis also should be allowed to pontificate about “red lines” and preemptive strikes.
A plague on both their houses.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 24th, 2012
8:38 pm
Why would any white person ….. ?
Why, oh why?
Mr_B
September 24th, 2012
8:43 pm
“Romney said the biggest problem in a distressed aircraft is that “the windows don’t open. ”
A fantastic stand-up comic named James Gregory used to do a routine about really stupid warning signs. One of his examples was the stenciled warning on an aircraft entrance door: “Do not open in flight.” Sounds similar.
Even Mitt can’t really be this thick.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
8:47 pm
Mr_B:
Thank you.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
8:48 pm
P.S. to Mr_B:
Should the Israelis be allowed to pontificate about the “elimination of Iran” ?
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
8:49 pm
Just an idgit passing through in the night.
Better an idgit than an idjit. Those j’s are some real muthas…
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Them ain’t voices, them’s echoes.
Well, now that you mention that. Sounds tend to echo in empty rooms. Might need to add some spongy matter in between those ears to alleviate that problem.
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1) If the U.N. had been founded in 1935 should Hitler have been allowed to speak at the 1939 General Assembly?
Yes. If Germany were a member nation, why would he not have been allowed to speak? Just because you don’t like the message doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have the right to give it. You can’t support and uphold free speech and then turn around and squash it just because you don’t agree with the message or messenger.
2) Should Ahmadinejad be allowed to speak at this General Assembly?
http://www.iran-un.org/
Yes. Iran has been a member of the United Nations since October 24, 1945.
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
8:51 pm
Redneck…
I think I just woke up half my neighborhood from laughing out loud. That sounds downright believable though. I’d suggest going to a sporting goods store and buying a heavy bag for punching. Those things can take a beating, and that allows you to burn off steam by trying to knock the sh*t out of something without having to worry about going to jail.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
8:54 pm
Brosephus:
So you would draw no line as to who should be allowed to speak even if the rhetoric involved the destruction of another member nation ?
Wilbur
September 24th, 2012
8:54 pm
While we might worry about fairness, confiscatory taxes and income redistribution a la Obama are so massively unpopular and so detrimental to the economy that none but the loony toon left will advocate them.
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
8:55 pm
TaxPayer
I had to go and google that because I couldn’t believe that he said that. I did happen to find the LA Times article where he’s quoted as saying that. I won’t even pick on him for that because that would be worse than picking on the defenseless.
Just wow….
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
8:57 pm
Yes Hilter should have been allowed to spew his hate. After all, we had people sending their kids to NAZI summer camps during the 30s right here in the good ole USA as well as NAZIs renting out Madison Sq Garden, etc, etc.
While we may not have known his military strategies, his philosophies and hatred for others was not a secret. Many prominent folks in the US supported him. Kennedy, Ford, Bush, Lindbergh come to mind.
As for Iran, they should be able to spout their bs at the UN.
Israel should also feel free to counter and rebut it in any form they see fit
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
8:59 pm
So you would draw no line as to who should be allowed to speak even if the rhetoric involved the destruction of another member nation ?
If there’s nothing in the bylaws that outright forbids it, why draw lines? Even better, I’d televise their speeches in their entirety for all the world to hear. I’d follow their speeches with commentary showing how assinine their thinking and behavior is, but I wouldn’t stop them from talking.
I’ve never seen words physically harm anybody. To give you an idea of how I feel about that, I wouldn’t stop a member from the Klan from giving a speech about how he felt about Blacks. Words do nothing unless you allow them to affect you.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:01 pm
big nick’s comment is the kind of comments you read on drudgey links.
dbm
September 24th, 2012
9:02 pm
Towncrier
September 24th, 2012
5:24 pm
I mean that the most effective and successful capitalists are the ones putting a lot of time and effort into pursuing their own interests, and Christianity says we should subordinate our interests to something else.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
September 24th, 2012
9:06 pm
Jay, what is your obsession with the wealthy? You need to move on to more useful pursuits.
I know there are people that are smarter than me, work harder than me, and are, in general, more successful than me. More power to ‘em. So what? Until you can make IQ scores all come out the same, and have people work the same amount of time each week, bank accounts are going to have differing amounts in them. Get over it.
Here’s a larger problem for you to cogitate on – there is not enough income or wealth to pay our debts at this time. If you add in unfunded public pension liabilities, the astronomical gap becomes even more astronomical.
Try to figure out ways to entice these wealthy folks to create more jobs – that is where your time would be better spent. I know this is anathema to Democrats, but give it a try. This other stuff you do is tilting at windmills.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
9:07 pm
Brosephus/BOTH:
I would tend to agree with one difference.
I would hope that any speech (including Ahmadinejad’s) calling for the entire destruction of another member nation or ethnic people group would be to an empty hall as everyone walked out.
barking frog
September 24th, 2012
9:07 pm
Brosephus
Not totally sure I agree
about words inability to
hurt, especially the young.
Words can be powerful
emotional stimulants or
depressants.
dbm
September 24th, 2012
9:07 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
September 24th, 2012
5:29 pm
If the megachurches are truly capitalistic, then they aren’t truly Christian. Actually they probably aren’t very good representatives of either.
They BOTH suck
September 24th, 2012
9:09 pm
Scout
That certainly is the right of each nation and wouldn’t bother me if what you said took place.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:10 pm
There is a reason we are leaving the younger generation no chance to make a decent living wilbur.
Think real hard wilbur and tell me the reason without blaming our President.
I am listening.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:14 pm
Israel bluffed for a decade.
Nothing changed.
Brosephus™
September 24th, 2012
9:15 pm
Scout
I could sit right next to you while you’re giving a speech and not hear a single word if I’m not interested. Just because somebody’s sitting in the audience, that doesn’t mean they are paying attention. I understand your point though. For me, that walking out stuff is nothing but theatrics. It’s no different than turning your back to a speaker.
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frog
The young and gullible would be exceptions to the rule. The reason that words hurt is because we give them the power and emotion to hurt. Once you realize that you can control whether or not they hurt, then you realize that people don’t have the power over you that they think they have.
It’s not an easy task, and it takes the patience of a saint to get to that point. It can be done though.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:16 pm
It is not about the wealthy paying all of debt knuckle dragger.
Good grief.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
9:17 pm
Just an idgit passing through in the night.
Hysterical, Jay.
Your forum seems to attract them! (No offense to us regular idgits here. LOL!)
Trump to Liberty U Students: ‘The World is Laughing at my Hair’ ~Newsmax.com
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:20 pm
Ayn Rand and white middle class doubts about economic….fairness…
This is called fabricating a story to follow a false and absurd narrative: the idea that Obama would benefit economic anything.
OK, well I mentioned Rand, and I’m a conservative, so cue Joe Hussein Mama or someone else and have them post that pap about Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.
3….2…..1….. Go.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
9:21 pm
“COMPLAINTS MOUNT AGAINST MICHELLE O’S NEW LUNCH MENU”
Hummm…………….maybe we should lower the voting age ?
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:21 pm
Same ole crap.
iamanutjob, we will destroy Israel.
bibi, time to bomb Iran.
Over ten years of the same ole crap.
yuzeyurbrane
September 24th, 2012
9:24 pm
What data also tells me is the South is only region where the working class whites continue to vote against their own economic interests. Wonder why? Anyway, since we have electoral college, this portends well for Obama victory. And South will not rise again but will continue to hug the bottom in all meaningful measures of civilized society. Bad for those us who live here; otherwise, I might say let them secede.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:25 pm
Original thought is too much for scout.
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:25 pm
getalife,
Same old crap: yes, you’ve cornered the market on it.
No one does same old crap as often as you.
dbm
September 24th, 2012
9:27 pm
Eric
September 24th, 2012
6:50 pm
Capitalism is consistent with valuing people. Valuing people is consistent with expecting them to take responsibility for their own wellbeing.
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:27 pm
0311,
It’s a conservative conspiracy. Elementary school kids are just gunning for Michelle because it’s an election year. And the kids behind it all are white supremacists christians all on their own, sanctioned by non-union coptic principals.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:28 pm
On the way to the doctor I saw a billboard that said ” Real hope for change” and had a picture of reagan.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
9:28 pm
Headline: “Veterans retreating from Barack Obama”
“President Barack Obama is trying hard to win veterans, but it looks like they’d prefer a new commander in chief.
The Obama campaign had been hoping that veterans and their families — especially among the post-Sept. 11 generation that served in Iraq and Afghanistan — would be part of their path to victory: They’re a high turn-out demographic and concentrated in battleground states, with nearly 1 million each in North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia, and 1.6 million in Florida.
But recent polls make clear that the president’s campaign is losing the battle. Even as Obama leads in Colorado, Florida, Ohio and Virginia, Mitt Romney is up by double digits among veterans in those states. Nationwide, he’s got a commanding 20-percentage-point lead over Obama and has even overtaken the president with younger veterans.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81616.html#ixzz27RNnpO5t
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:29 pm
I can’t take what Barack is shoving down my throat; I’d hate to have Michelle doing it to me also.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 24th, 2012
9:29 pm
Obambarrassment :
O.K.
Thanks.
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:30 pm
0311,
Those military voting drives….wonder where all the ballots are? Anyone?
Too bad, but we just had a resignation in that office.
JamVet
September 24th, 2012
9:31 pm
…Romney was doing more preparation for the debates “than any candidate in modern history.”
“They’ve made clear that his performing well is a make-or-break piece for their campaign…
Shades of Tricky Dick’s sweaty upper lip? LOL!
The Republican angle is that he has more experience debating recently, which is certainly true.
But my gawd, look at the idiots he debated – Santorum, Perry, Bachmann, Newt and Herman!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
9:31 pm
I have found that those who complain the most about having something shoved down their throats, are the same ones who will swallow anything.
getalife
September 24th, 2012
9:36 pm
The gop debates were about la la land.
These debates are about the real world.
romney can’t remember all his positions.
It will be like his campaign.
A train wreck.
Bet 10 k on it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
9:39 pm
Bet 10 k on it.
Heh, heh, heh.
Obambarrassment
September 24th, 2012
9:42 pm
JamVet,
It’s OK. You don’t have to say that those people are idiots. We know the media narrative–Santorum, Reagan, Bush, Quayle, etc., Only Cheney and Nixon were evil. No, wait, Newt was dumb…or was he evil? Or was Cheney controlled by aliens…? Nixon, lying under oath…no wait…
It’s all so hard to keep this straight.. OK, so Newt was evil and Newt was controlled by…..
Waitaminute….so Cheney was diabolical… and Palin…
Oh, they’re all just stupid. Just say that.
We’ve heard it before Jam.
We just wish you’d be more creative and say, address the policies that these people propose as politicians, rather than slandering them with the ad hominem nonsense that they are a) stupid, b) racists, c) out-of-touch.
Want someone entirely stupid and out of touch? I give you Joe Biden, a man who matches up so poorly against anyone prominent in modern politics that all the liberal media can do is shrug, “oh that’s just Joe.”
The bottom feeders aka generational government dependents aka Obama voters
September 24th, 2012
9:43 pm
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/24/howard_stern_interviews_obama_supporters_2012.html
Obama voters aka generational government dependents
September 24th, 2012
9:44 pm
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/09/24/howard_stern_interviews_obama_supporters_2012.html
dumbass righty troll aka typical Gooper
September 24th, 2012
9:47 pm
hey lookie meeee!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 24th, 2012
9:47 pm
Speaking of dancing horses … Sarah Palin’s twitter feed just reminded me that Bristol in on Dancing With The D-List
Heh, heh, heh.