Is Georgia’s economic decline cause for action?
NOTE: This column has been updated with new state-level unemployment numbers for August, released at 10 a.m. by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Since 2002, median household income in Georgia has fallen by 14.4 percent. While the national unemployment rate has fallen to 8.1 percent, here in Georgia it stands at 9.2 percent, unchanged since January. It is significantly higher than in Alabama, Florida or Tennessee.
In fact, Georgia’s unemployment rate has now exceeded the national average every month for the last five years, a string of 61 months that shows no sign of ending soon.
And while I don’t have numbers to support it, the data cited above and anecdotal evidence suggest that ambitious, educated young Georgians are today being forced to look outside their state to pursue their dreams. We have long been a net importer of young talent to help drive the Georgia economy; there’s good reason to believe that we have now become a net exporter.
So it seems fair to ask: What’s the plan?
The trends are all in the wrong direction, and as a state and as a metropolitan area we are underperforming the nation and many of our peers. So where’s the plan to reverse those trends? Where’s the vision?
Ten years ago this fall, Sonny Perdue became the first Republican elected governor of this state since Reconstruction. In his eight years in office, he was content to act as a caretaker, more interested in leveraging his office into personal business success than in undertaking any major initiatives. The state Legislature and much of the state’s business community seemed perfectly content to follow his lack of leadership.
Gov. Nathan Deal, elected in 2010, has been more pro-active than Perdue and to his credit took a risk in backing the proposed transportation sales-tax referendum across the state. But since the defeat of that proposal Deal has all but washed his hands of the transportation crisis that continues to threaten economic development. Unless I’ve missed it, there is no sense of urgency, vision or direction coming out of the governor’s office. Like Perdue, he is perfectly comfortable trying to advance the economic interests of individual Georgians, such as the campaign contributor to whom he steered a $4.8 million grant to drill a well at state expense. But a more broad-based prosperity program is apparently not in the works.
Part of it is undoubtedly ideology. Deal, Perdue and their fellow Republicans distrust an activist government (although again, it is interesting to note the occasions in which they manage to set that distrust aside). That ideology also instructs them to put great faith in the power of repeated tax cuts and less aggressive enforcement of regulation to draw growth.
That philosophy has had its impact. Taxes are lower. Per student, inflation-adjusted state spending on education is down 14.8 percent since 2008, the seventh-biggest drop in the country. We have little money to spend on transportation, and the Ogeechee River suffered the biggest fishkill in state history last year, and state officials have yet to act decisively against the culprit.
But after almost a decade of talk about the economic nirvana such a strategy would produce in Georgia, it seems fair to ask: Is it working? Is it — dare we ask — actually counterproductive in a modern economy? And even if we set that politically volatile question aside, is it time for this state’s elected leadership to take an active role in trying to reverse its economic decline, or is the passive attitude of the last 10 years the best we can do?
– Jay Bookman
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cobbmom
September 21st, 2012
7:15 am
Perdue wasn’t content to just be a caretaker, he started the cuts to education funding in Georgia that IMHO are a large part of the decline of the state.
Motocross Survivor
September 21st, 2012
7:24 am
The last three GA governors have been particularly self-serving puds..all three rather low on the human food chain, but well fed.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
7:28 am
Per student, inflation-adjusted state spending on education is down 14.8 percent since 2008, the seventh-biggest drop in the country.
I’m sure that will end well.
FrankLeeDarling
September 21st, 2012
7:29 am
When I came to Georgia as a young man twenty five years ago,it was perceived as a progressive
Forward thinking town with a eye towards the arts,now that image has been pushed back by uptight
Gentrification. I still love my city but I think we have moved in the wrong direction in many areas but its not to late.
Paul
September 21st, 2012
7:29 am
So cuts (particularly top-tier) and a war on regs, do not, in our modern economy, spur economic growth, either at the national or the state level. Neither does ‘free markets no government intervention, except when it’s in an area where I want my way.”
I suppose Republicans will keep advocating that as a cure, though.
Let’s hope the patient doesn’t die before the expected recovery.
Paul
September 21st, 2012
7:30 am
stands
“I’m sure that will end well.”
You think the level of discourse is questionable on blogs now? Wait 20 years -
jconservative
September 21st, 2012
7:34 am
But all of the social items on the agenda were addressed.
Common Sense
September 21st, 2012
7:36 am
And what is 50 time 60,000? 3 million?
Would it not have been a more honest comparison if you had based in on population of the state?
But then it would not have looked so dramatic.
the cat
September 21st, 2012
7:38 am
I personally went to school in the DeKalb county system 40 plus years ago. This system was one of the finest in the nation under the leadership of Jim Cherry. It is unbelievable what has happened to the residents of what was once the place to live in Georgia!!! Governors dumbing down will hurt all of us.
Li'l Aynie
September 21st, 2012
7:39 am
Definitely a cause for action, but not likely to happen. The state government is primarily responsible for the job losses that cause Georgia’s economic decline. Successive layoffs of teachers and public safety workers, and the continuing failure to maintain and invest in the infrastructure have taken a toll on the state’s economy.
Voters turned down a major infrastructure improvement and job creation program that would have been financed by a penny rise in the sales tax. The Governor turned down an offer by the federal government for billions in cash to expand the Medicaid program. We fail to qualify for federal financial support for stimulus projects because our state and local governments do not have any improvements projects or plans.
Georgia will suffer economic decline so long as unthinking and selfish citizens, and the politicians who pander to them, refuse to raise the revenue needed to support essential jobs and make the infrastructure improvements needed to attract private investment.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
7:40 am
I suppose Republicans will keep advocating that as a cure, though.
I want to make sure we understand that so long as mainstream Republicans continue to get away with advocating that as a cure, mainstream Democrats will continue being Deficit Hawks Lite and do the usual half-assed incremental measures that are slowing our recovery.
8 percent national unemployment is not only not acceptable, it’s a damn crisis. there are some who seem to get this, but not nearly enough…
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-20/fed-s-kocherlakota-wants-to-see-jobless-rate-cut-to-5-dot-5-percent
Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis President Narayana Kocherlakota said the central bank should hold the main interest rate near zero until unemployment falls below 5.5 percent, marking the first time he has linked policy to a specific economic goal.
“As long as the FOMC is continuing to satisfy its price stability mandate, it should keep the fed funds rate extraordinarily low until the unemployment rate has fallen below 5.5 percent,” Kocherlakota said today in a speech in Ironwood, Michigan, referring to the policy-setting Federal Open Market Committee.
The FOMC announced a new round of quantitative easing last week to spur growth and job creation, while forecasting that the benchmark interest rate will stay at a record low through at least mid-2015. As recently as May, the Minneapolis Fed chief said the central bank may need to begin an exit from record stimulus as early as year-end.
Kocherlakota embraced a proposal by Chicago Fed President Charles Evans to calibrate monetary policy based on specific economic goals. Evans advocates holding to near-zero rates until the jobless rate falls below 7 percent or inflation reaches 3 percent.
To put it bluntly, I would file this ^^ under “well f-cking duh.”
southpaw
September 21st, 2012
7:41 am
“More jobs” certainly has a nice ring to it. But is it really the responsibility of the state government to provide jobs? I’d better take another look at the state Constitution.
Take a look at why companies aren’t hiring, and tell me: how much can state leaders really do about it?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152654/health-costs-gov-regulations-curb-small-business-hiring.aspx
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
7:42 am
how much can state leaders really do about it?
For a start, they could stop being douchebags and participate in the expansion of Medicaid.
Airdale
September 21st, 2012
7:44 am
Could the Republicans possibly be pushing the state in a direction that is not in the best interests of the people? Who knew? Could the cuts in education have some impact on the state economy? I can hardly wait for the usual bozos to comment on this subject. I usually don’t post, but only read their posts for amusement.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
7:45 am
Incredibly off topic, but –
if we had a truly liberally-biased mainstream media, they’d be clamoring for Mitt “Scissorhands” Romney’s reaction to this hate-crime news.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 21st, 2012
7:48 am
The battle over water rights could not have helped Atlanta in obtaining large businesses.
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
7:49 am
The imaginary lines that
are called state borders
need to be erased as they
allow petty dukes to enrich
themselves at taxpayer
expense and impede
social and economic
growth. Until that happens
you get the government
you deserve.
Mr_B
September 21st, 2012
7:55 am
No Jay, You just don’t get it. We just haven’t cut taxes and education enough yet, or ditch enough worthless regulations. (We’ll probably get around to that as soon as we put the finishing touches on the next mandatory pregnancy bill.)
Common Sense
September 21st, 2012
7:56 am
“The imaginary lines that
are called state borders
need to be erased as they
allow petty dukes to enrich
themselves at taxpayer
expense and impede
social and economic
growth.”
And if we could do that with all property(cities, counties, nations and personal) as well, you’d have Nirvana, right?
rwcole
September 21st, 2012
7:56 am
The state of GA has been at 48th or 49th in education for a long time now. We all knew this day was coming. Poorly educated students become poorly educated voters and lawmakers. And here we are. I have an idea, though. Let’s do the same thing we’ve done for the last decade in the next decade. That should fix things. Right??
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
7:59 am
What we need here is some union action! Let’s get organized.
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
7:59 am
Funny, we were not blaming education for the low unemployment we had in 2007,
independent thinker
September 21st, 2012
8:01 am
easy solution-Go fish
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
8:02 am
off topic but interesting to note:
Yesterday was to be the first debate between Scott Brown and Elizabeth Warren at 7pm in Boston. Around 3pm, Scott Brown sends out a note saying he has to go back to Washington because his vote is needed in the Senate. Mwuahahahahahaha.
Almost immediately Harry Reid goes to the podium on the Senate floor, interrupts the Honorable Al Franken, and states “There will be no more votes in the Senate today.” Scott Brown turns around and heads back to Boston!
mwuahahahahahahhaha
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 21st, 2012
8:02 am
How much of the education spending decline was at the County level? Counties were/are broke. Efforts to increase homeowners taxes to fill budget shortfalls were fought against by Republican’s, Democrat’s alike resulting in Counties being forced to make cuts to pay the bills.
Really?
September 21st, 2012
8:04 am
Wow. How quickly we forget the huge economic stimulus Perdue put in Perry GA (his district/home) on the way out…. the 14 million dollar Fishing Museum.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/us/18fishing.html
That was money well spent. I’m sure it created a huge number of jobs and think of all the people who come to Georgia just to see it. Glad we don’t have other priorities such as transportation, infrastructure, education to spend the money on these days.
dekalbcountyga
September 21st, 2012
8:04 am
@Common Sense, real numbers are 311.5 million divided by 9.8 million times 60,000 = 1.9 million.
That would be a more honest comparison.
Just because we are one of 50 states that doesn’t mean we have 1/50th of the population.
That’s about 1/3 less than 2.8 million and GA is quite severely underperforming the rest of the country.
Thomas Heyward Jr
September 21st, 2012
8:05 am
Take Democrat enclaves out of the equation and……the state is doing airight.
.
Forward Soviet.
southpaw
September 21st, 2012
8:10 am
SFD @7:42
I won’t claim to be the sharpest tool in the shed or the brightest bulb in the room. So, will you help a fellow connect a couple of dots? What does participation or non-participation in Medicaid expansion have to do with job creation? Wait–maybe I can answer my own question. Medicaid expansion will create more jobs for state bureaucrats!! Is that really what you want, or do you know of another connection?
Common Sense
September 21st, 2012
8:13 am
@dekalbcountyga,
My point was that JB should have been presenting it that way…
I also notice JB does not mention that both governors were democrats before the became republicans. Is there any evidence, other than changing their party, that they changed their governing philosophies?
No.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:13 am
What does participation or non-participation in Medicaid expansion have to do with job creation?
southpaw, it lowers costs for startups and such. It makes it easier to attract / retain businesses.
JKL2
September 21st, 2012
8:14 am
-So it seems fair to ask: What’s the plan?
Obama says,”What?”
Democrats don’t do “plans”. I guess it is only a concern if you have an (R) behind your name…
Mr_B
September 21st, 2012
8:15 am
“Medicaid expansion will create more jobs for state bureaucrats!! Is that really what you want, or do you know of another connection?”
Or maybe for medical support staff on others that depend on the medical industry for jobs, suppliers, etc. and healthier more productive workforce.
straitroad
September 21st, 2012
8:17 am
I figured you would now be repeating the administration’s reversal on the terror attack today, that it actually was planned and we were caught unprepared.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
8:18 am
JKL is making up quotes again and deflecting with “but, but Obama” — Ben Franklin
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
8:19 am
Deal seems to find plenty of money to help his “friends”. I suspect he’ll come out a very wealthy man
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:20 am
And on a semi-related note, why would anyone fret about Medicaid expansion requiring the additional hiring of some administrative staff to manage it? So what if it does? You really want to be bothered about such trivialities, why don’t you run off and do a cost comparison to what we pay for people who go untreated (including children of those working class folks who’d be covered by Medicaid expansion) and figure out if that particular triviality might not actually pay for itself anyway?
not that we should care, really.
(Sigh. That guy who held up the sign at those Occupy protests that read “Sh-t is F-cked Up and Bullsh-t”? I am starting to think he was a bit of an optimist.)
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
September 21st, 2012
8:20 am
Georgia’s decline mirrors the country. Bush might have drove the car in the ditch as Obama likes to say. Obama took over the car and took it to the salvage yard and had it crushed. You only need to look as far as the cast of Characters that Obama has put around himself to know that we were not in for a recovery, but a total transformation of American ideals and values. Where we are is by design, not by bad luck. A total utopia of liberal government and policies to derail and eliminate capitalistic advancement and a way to offer a quality of life afforded to all who were willing to participate. There is room for an entitlement structure to help the helpless……Making it a way of life by design for a damn vote is a sin.
Georgia on my mind...
September 21st, 2012
8:20 am
Is it — dare we ask — actually counterproductive in a modern economy?
________
We get what we vote for in Georgia. Most Republicans in this state would rather blame President Obama for the state’s decline but he has NEVER been governor of this state. I will vote against all amendments that Governor Deal tries to enact especially the Charter School Amendment. Georgia politics are about the elected officials and not the constituents.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:21 am
Bush might have drove the car
“Is our children learning?”
MiltonMan
September 21st, 2012
8:21 am
…and Roy Barnes would be a better governor??? This clown was a failure the first time that we were dumb enough to elect him – even the guaranteed democrat-friendly teachers in this state turned against him.
The dems in this state are as much to blame as are the reps for not electing decent replacements to counter the reps.
TaxPayer
September 21st, 2012
8:22 am
Haven’t you heard. Georgia is going for the gold–state-sanctioned charter schools. And more bigger cuts to local schools to pay for them.
Meanwhile, at the local level, the people will be presented with their options for more sales taxes to fund whatever it is that they feel deserves tax dollar funding such as roads leading to Caterpillar plants or well water for local businesses. Property taxes will necessarily grow over time in order to make up for the shortfall resulting from using scarce tax dollars to buy jobs for the people. Republicans call this form of governance, “Independence”. Independence from the oppressive form of governance imposed only by the likes of a Democrat. They shudder when they think about the terrible times they endured up until their total state makeover.
All is well now though. We as a state have survived the Sonny years and thus we have existence proof that the Dixiecrats can indeed thrive under the Republican banner. All is good. Meanwhile, back in Atlanta, Nathan is determined to not be outdone by Sonny. To start his day, Deal is served a breakfast of fresh fruit, eggs, hominy grits and toast in bed every morning by his loyal breakfast staff… “four more years,” he mumbles as he washes down his breakfast with his fresh squeezed. Eat your heart out, Sonny.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:23 am
Anyway, for the record, I said not being a d-bag and expanding Medicaid when IT IS BEING OFFERED TO YOU FOR NEXT TO FREAKING NOTHING by the Federal government, is a start, nothing more.
Obviously we need to lick our wounds and try another hack at a transportation plan; we need to re-invest in education, etc.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:23 am
and Roy Barnes would be a better governor?
yes.
THBAEOSATSQ.
Sean Smith
September 21st, 2012
8:25 am
Georgia, the new Alabama.
Of course if the Tsplost had passed there would be a bunch of new jobs, and companies wanting to move here. As it is, crummy education and bad traffic, companies relocating are going to look else where. Georgia’s best days are behind her.
Doggone/GA
September 21st, 2012
8:25 am
“Anyway, for the record, I said not being a d-bag and expanding Medicaid when IT IS BEING OFFERED TO YOU FOR NEXT TO FREAKING”
Stands – I’m sorry, but that’s a bunch of baloney. It WILL cost us, it’s just that we’ll pay for it mostly at the federal level and not the state level. But WE WILL pay for it. But that aside, I agree that it’s stupid to turn it down.
DannyX
September 21st, 2012
8:29 am
Oh, its coming soon folks! You’ll see. It’s going to be a Republican utopia.
The Bush tax cuts and the Georgia corporate tax cuts are all set to converge here. It will happen any day now. When it does there will be jobs galore, high paying jobs. It will make history.
Happy days.
Charter Schools and the Southern Strategy
September 21st, 2012
8:29 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ACS4PgDFA
Paul
September 21st, 2012
8:30 am
straitroad
“I figured you would now be repeating the administration’s reversal on the terror attack today, that it actually was planned and we were caught unprepared.”
I’ve been watching Fox, too.
They show a clip of the State Dept spokesperson and Jake Carney saying ‘we don’t have all the info yet. We won’t speculate. We know there were demonstrations and people are upset about the video but we have not yet verified the other information.”
Then the Fox newsreader says “The Administration reversed itself…”
Ya gotta think about what you hear -
weetamoe
September 21st, 2012
8:32 am
Bernanke’s Qe3 to infinity is a tacit admission that the great recession is slipping into a great depression. Obama’s frantic equivocating and dodging and weaving to talk about anything but the economy is a tacit admission that all is not well on the recession/depression trajectory.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
8:36 am
Georgia is a red state! Love it or leave it. It is a choice. We like things our way NOT your way. You have California, New York, New Jersey, and so forth. Pick one! You will be around people just like you. Life will be good and you will have peace of mind. You can be gay, atheist, and hate christains all together and sing songs around the campfire. Although it will be an electrical fire place. Since 1865 we have endured you guys who eagerly volunteers to tell us how we should live, think, dress, eat, and educate our kids. Well we fly the US flag, the stars and stripes, and will never fly the new O and stripes the present administration is sneaking into our society.
Mike
September 21st, 2012
8:37 am
50 states x 60,000 jobs = 3,000,000 jobs. So, by this standard Georgia is ahead of the national average. Good point. Thank you for pointing out that Ga. is above average in jobs added.
Paul
September 21st, 2012
8:38 am
“Bernanke’s Qe3 to infinity is a tacit admission that the great recession is slipping into a great depression.”
You have any economists – not just people with econ degrees working in retail and writing on blogs – who take that view, weetamoe?
Jm
September 21st, 2012
8:38 am
Hmmm
FL and TN
No income tax states….
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:38 am
It WILL cost us, it’s just that we’ll pay for it mostly at the federal level and not the state level.
Obviously coverage costs come from somewhere. The point is, that as far as these “leaders” are concerned, it will not cost them anything to implement.
And they’re such boneheaded d-bags that they don’t care; they’d rather continue plugging into the insane Christian fundie base that believes Obamacare is Teh Satan.
xxx
September 21st, 2012
8:39 am
2 months ago traffic was the boogy man. The medicaid give away to attract residents directly off sets net job growth by flatlining the unemployment number. 10K new jobs offset by 10K new residents means the same number of people are still out of work. Example- the Hollywood of the south studio efforts are attracting CA residents in droves according to WSB news report. .
AU Liberal in ATL
September 21st, 2012
8:40 am
“I’m a Liberal”, you’re delusional. Your description of yourself is a perfect description of the far right wing of the republican party. Birtherism, apologizing for America, socialism, and weak on defense are all prime examples. Talk about believing everything you read. What a ding dong.
GT
September 21st, 2012
8:42 am
The subject seldom surfaces in this state. To a casual outsider you would think we have a prosperous enterprise with a group of confident operators with all the answers. Instead you have borderline corruption that is the priority, the state government leaves the corporate world alone and in turn the corporate world lets the big dog sleep. We live in a nomadic world where Coke is more involved in foreign lands than the welfare of this state, even the banks have gone international. The community is the world not Atlanta, Georgia, Robert Woodruff is now a corporate Gypsy who probably is giving his community attention and Coke money to some cause abroad instead of “home”.
Stop and take a reading of the other governors in this country. Look first at the success and then go down the column and see what leads that state. You won’t find beady eyed tight lips that think too much conversation gives their sorted plans away that you find here. I can’t imagine our governor being able to carry on a conversation with world leaders. His and our politics, intellect and personality are a mystery to most of these sophisticated decision makers of the world. I think we bottomed out with Sonny, but we almost beg for failure in this state. We please the locals with our stubbornness, yet we go to bed hungry, live unfulfilled lives in the backwaters of national poverty because of selfish agendas.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:42 am
Georgia is a red state!
…yeah, the GOPer won by a whopping 5.2 percent margin in 2008.
It’ll be red fo-evah. fo-shizzle.
Not Blind
September 21st, 2012
8:42 am
You elect someone to the office of POTUS who has NO executive experience of any sort to speak of and this economy is what you get. When you have no depth of prior experience to fall back on and you surround yourself with other political hacks of the same lack of real world experience and you are going to fail in every meaningful category. Nonetheless, you will be able to count on unqualified reelection support from kneejerk [D] faithful.
hiram
September 21st, 2012
8:43 am
“Like Perdue, he is perfectly comfortable trying to advance the economic interests of individual Georgians, such as the campaign contributor to whom he steered a $4.8 million grant to drill a well at state expense.”
Lake Lanier Islands is owned by the U.S. Government and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. It is leased to the Georgia Dept. of Natural Resources and managed by the Lake Lanier Islands Development Authority. Members of the authority are appointed by the governor. Virgil Williams purchased the rights to operate the resort for the State in 2006.
Virgil Williams, his company and his immediate family contributed $30,500 to Nathan Deal’s Campaign in 2110. Not a bad return on investment…
Virgil Williams – $9700
Williams Companies(Owner) – $6100
Michael Williams(Son) – $6100
Sara Williams(Wife) – $6100
David Bowling(Son-in-law) – $2500
ethics.ga.gov
JKL2
September 21st, 2012
8:44 am
keep- JKL is making up quotes again and deflecting with “but, but Obama” — Ben Franklin
I thought your comment was strange yesterday, but now your dumb a$$ is bringing it up again.
What part of Franklin’s quote did you not understand? Do you understand how google works or do I have to post you link for you?
weetamoe
September 21st, 2012
8:44 am
To the someone here all lathered up about the Brown/Lieawatha/Fauxcahontas/Pseudojawea debate. My home town MA newspaper had it summed up pretty well this morning–including Brown’s charges about Lieawath’s exorbitant fees for defending the asbestos industry against a lawsuit, her outrageous salary for teaching one course at Harvard, her income from buying over 20 foreclosed homes and flipping them for profit. ….
AU Liberal in ATL
September 21st, 2012
8:44 am
Want to see one reason for economic decline in Georgia? Backwards, nonproductive thinking, hypocrisy, stupidity,and bigotry are hardly qualities that attract new business. Just read the freaking Vent and the garbage expressed on these blogs. They’re a snapshot of Georgia.
DannyX
September 21st, 2012
8:45 am
“50 states x 60,000 jobs = 3,000,000 jobs. ”
Republican arithmetic.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:45 am
50 states x 60,000 jobs = 3,000,000 jobs. So, by this standard Georgia is ahead of the national average. Good point. Thank you for pointing out that Ga. is above average in jobs added.
I assume this is Teh Sarcasm.
If not, well, Jesus wept.
TaxPayer
September 21st, 2012
8:45 am
9.3% unemployment rate in Georgia, under Republican rule. So this is what a Republican jobs campaign produces.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
September 21st, 2012
8:48 am
Isn’t Georgia part of Romney’s 47%?
AU Liberal in ATL
September 21st, 2012
8:49 am
Actually, you are Blind. This economy is what we got from Dubya. Experience is a fine quality, but judgement trumps that. President Obama has the maturity and intelligence to make decisions presidents must make. So far, he’s done a great job. If Bush made any such judgements please tell me what they were.
Carl
September 21st, 2012
8:49 am
Obama biggest regret was not focusing more immigration reform…WHAT? His biggest regret should have been not adressing unemployment.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
September 21st, 2012
8:50 am
Best thing to do is get rid of emperor nero – he is the problem!
Carl
September 21st, 2012
8:50 am
If Obama is re-elected … he can always blame everything on the mess he inherited!
Just Proud To Be Here
September 21st, 2012
8:52 am
If we just make the system more fair and tax the rich more, all of our problems will be solved. Learned that truth from the Liberals on Jay’s blog. Problem solved.
TN_Realist
September 21st, 2012
8:52 am
GAs republican leadership, like most in the southern states, has been attacking teachers and education for the last 2 plus decades. We’re now seeing the results of good teachers leaving or retiring from their lifes calling to get away from the virtirol that has been heaped upon them and can anyone blame them? If you were constantly attacked, made fun of, denigrated as “union slaves” and suffered the disrepect our teachers deal with on a daily basis would you stay on the job?
The republican leadership has painted itself in a corner with their fawning over the Grover Norquists of the world with their “pledge” to NEVER raise taxes and yet the populace of the state sees nothing but declining schools, deteriorating infranstructure and bills introduced/passed in support of the fringe.
It’s time to take a long look at who we elect and expect them to serve the need of the people and the state, not themselves or thier out of state contibutors!
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
8:52 am
Republican arithmetic.
I sometimes joke about the need for
Re-EducationHappy Camps for conservatives, but seriously? Tutoring conservatives on basic math skills involving the concepts of proportionality, and mean versus median, and maybe even statistical probability? would go a very, very long way toward correcting what is effed up and BS in ‘Merica.Just read the freaking Vent and the garbage expressed on these blogs.
Sadder still, of course, is learning that supposedly brilliant Captains of Industry, such as those privately assembled to hear Mitt speak back in May, are apparently receptive to this same line of BS.
There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between that rhetoric, frankly, and what you hear blasting out of idiotic, fact-free AM commerical talk radio. not a dime.
and on that cheery note, I gots to produce. Later!
hiram
September 21st, 2012
8:52 am
Georgia’s government is as corrupt as any banana republic’s, because the majority of the state’s voters are apparently as unsophisticated as the citizens living in a banana republic – and their proud of it – Honey Boo Boo is the new norm in Georgia.
Obama Supporter
September 21st, 2012
8:53 am
We must raise taxes on the rich so that the poor don’t have to worry about things like working, food, housing, medical care, contraceptives and schools.
Just Proud To Be Here
September 21st, 2012
8:55 am
If Obama has done such a great job, why is he dead even with Romney instead of 20 points ahead? Even Obama’s campaign strategy is not to push his job well done but to ask for 4 more years to get it right.
Democratic Plantation Dweller
September 21st, 2012
8:55 am
Why should I worry?
It is the government’s responsibility to take care of me.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
8:55 am
Carl
September 21st, 2012
8:50 am
that is a good point. It is not Obama’s fault because he inherited it. lmao
Just Proud To Be Here
September 21st, 2012
8:56 am
The only people in our society right now that don’t have to worry about work, food, housing, medical care, contraceptives and schools are poor people because the govt is already giving them all that out of my pocket. The govt collects enough money, let them distribute wisely and not spend more than they take in.
Jack
September 21st, 2012
8:57 am
Start a business and hire a bunch of people. That’ll lower the unemployment rate and you’ll get rich and become a one-percenter in no time. It’s so easy and you’ll only have to work 16 to 20 hrs a day while paying the insurance premiums for your employees.
It is the economy, stupid!
September 21st, 2012
8:58 am
Jay, Off subject for just a moment.Yesterday I wondered aloud how the presidential elections would impact the “fiscal cliff” negotiations and the possibility of a second stimulus. Today, the Washington Post reports that if the Republicans lose the presidential election, which seems likely, they will have to retreat on taxes in order to avert the fiscal cliff . Ain’t politics grand? Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Misty Fyed
September 21st, 2012
8:58 am
hey
JF McNamara
September 21st, 2012
9:00 am
Let’s cut taxes!
Just Proud To Be Here
September 21st, 2012
9:00 am
Off subject: Reports say ringleader of Benghazi attack was released from Gitmo. You mean we kept an anti-Islam video at Gitmo?
TN_Realist
September 21st, 2012
9:01 am
Amazing, Jay posts a blog on GA’s economic issues and here comes the usual bashing of he President! No mention of the corrupt leadership in the Govenor’s office or the Legislative leadership positons but boy can they voice their vitriol at the President for GA’s failed leadership!
Where is the facepalm when one needs one????
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
9:01 am
JKL — what part of google tells us that Ben Franklin never said that…..
I posted the link yesterday. I guess you don’t know how to click a link. 
hiram
September 21st, 2012
9:02 am
Most of the rapid fire posters here, post complete nonsense like, “If Obama has done such a great job, why is he dead even with Romney instead of 20 points ahead?” What’s the point of arguing with them? It’s cause and effect – garbage in garbage out, Georgia’s a banana republic.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
September 21st, 2012
9:02 am
When Nathan Steal is your Governor and you have the 5th highest rate of poverty / people going hungry in the entire country doesnt make you feel good that you voted Rep.
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:03 am
I got a big laugh when Ga. passed immigration laws and then had to leave 1/2 the Videlia onion crop in the ground due to no labor.
Now there was some nice long term planning for you.
I haven`t heard this years plan. Let um rot.
GT
September 21st, 2012
9:03 am
What keeps industry out of Georgia is education. People are scared to death they are going to raise a cross eyed banjo player in this environment. The NY Times has an article this morning that for the first time white uneducated people can expect to live a shorter life than their parents. What fool wants to bring their children to this toxic life shorting swamp? This is the backbone of the Republican Party, in theory it should be a showcase of what is good with the right, instead it is a graveyard on the end of a dirt road.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:04 am
So it seems fair to ask: What’s the plan?
The same plan as all Republican Govenors have started initiating:
Take no responsibility for the mess you’ve allowed to be created within your state. Blame Obama.
Simple enough.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:05 am
” state’s voters are apparently as unsophisticated as the citizens living in a banana republic”
Now how can I be a good neighbor having an idiot like that next door?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
9:07 am
white uneducated people
Maybe get some educashun?
Charter School Segregation Target Of New Report
September 21st, 2012
9:07 am
Charter schools often promise to bring greater equity to education, but a new brief starts with the assumption that they fall short in delivery — and provides recommendations to fix the alleged injustice.
“Charter schools tend to be more racially segregated than traditional public schools,” said author and Penn State law professor Preston Green III, who sat on a board that considered charter-school applications in Pennsylvania. “What we tried to do is write ways to enable charter schools to promote desegregation rather exacerbate segregation.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/22/charter-school-education-segregation-equity-race-legislation_n_1295043.html
atler8
September 21st, 2012
9:08 am
Common sense,
Just a note here to tell you that the mathematical theory you used in your point at 7:36 on jobs is faulty. Georgia is the 9th largest state in population. So, you can’t simply do a mathematical equation on those numbers using “50″ as the bottom line for dividing the 3 million new jobs. It’s not a simple as that.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:10 am
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:04 am
You liberals are good at math or so you say. so why dont you count the minorities in Ga. find what percentage is on the government dole and see if 47% is actually a low number. Yes, this also has a great deal to do with low education standards and results. First you must be honest with yourself and then be honest with others.
Peadawg
September 21st, 2012
9:12 am
It’s all Obama’s fault.
(sorry if I’m late)
Ol' Timer
September 21st, 2012
9:13 am
Republicans have the mistaken notion that by lowering taxes businesses will flock to Georgia like Canada geese, but study after study has shown that taxes are just a part of the equation and not the major part. Companies are most concerned about infrastructure, transportation, quality of life issues for their employees including housing costs, access to the arts, recreation — and quality schools!
So, the Republican legislature has squeezed off the revenue stream with tax cuts while ignoring other major components that factor into successful economic growth for the state.
“It’s better to know nothing than to know for sure what ain’t so.” ~Josh Billings
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
9:13 am
It”s evident locally and nationally what the Republican agenda has done to the country. Remember their slogan in 2008? “Country First!” They must have meant some other country.
St Simons - (ab)original Georgian
September 21st, 2012
9:13 am
Georgia is hardly deep red on any electoral map,
51-47 is hardly hopeless or ‘decided’
Oh, they’re sweatin’ you betcha.
Why else would they be trying to restrict voting, circumvent the
state constitution, and keepin everybody dumb & backward –
“Per student, inflation-adjusted state spending on education is down
14.8 percent since 2008, the seventh-biggest drop in the country.”
you can tell by their behavior that they smell what’s cookin’
seabeau
September 21st, 2012
9:14 am
What about the nation’s decline! Remember,”Those on the DOLE, will Always Vote for the DOLE”!
Road Scholar
September 21st, 2012
9:14 am
Has anyone seen the “47%” broken down by type: retirees, military, white/black, income, etc?
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:14 am
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:03 am
Well if it means growing a certain crop that we really do not have to have and bring in thousands of undocumented workers the so be it. There are programs for the growers to bring in workers if the local people are on the government dole and dont want to work. Why should they work when they get housing, energy bills, food, and cash GIVEN to them. Really why would they want an education.
No Artificial Flavors
September 21st, 2012
9:15 am
As someone that has known the Governor for a long time and I do like him and respect him personally, I feel that as governor, he has looked out for the interest of his core friends, business partners, and major donors more than the state (cronyism, duh). He has placed unqualified people into top positions such as Board of Regents, Public Safety, port authority, etc. Just because a man is rich does not mean he is knowledgable in a high profile public position that requires a lots of institutional technical or expertise.
To that end, I’ve been disappointed in him as a governor of character. However, Handel and Oxendine were hardly proof of quality character either.
bman
September 21st, 2012
9:16 am
“It’s all Obama’s fault.”
Nope. Today, it’s the people of GA. Apparently, we’re all idiots lol
Moon Mullins
September 21st, 2012
9:16 am
If the governor, being the astute businessman that he is, feels like the Lake Lanier project is worthy of a $4.5 million investment from the state, I’ll have to go along with him — providing he co-signs.
Atlanta mom
September 21st, 2012
9:17 am
I can add anecdotal evidence suggesting “that ambitious, educated young Georgians are today being forced to look outside their state to pursue their dreams”
After the last legislative session I can’t imagine two of my daughters returning to Georgia when they finish their schooling. The third might stay, because the CDC is based here, otherwise, she too would be gone.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:17 am
“Per student, inflation-adjusted state spending on education is down
14.8 percent since 2008, the seventh-biggest drop in the country.”
What students? College or high school students. Remember those in Chicago got a 7% pay raise and they make 74K already with benefits. Maybe you should move their and educate your kids with expensive teachers.
Tall
September 21st, 2012
9:17 am
The best thing to do would be nothing. Georgia has much more going for it than most of the other states. First, you have the port of Savannah. In the coming years, the U.S. will start to run trade surpluses again. Transportation and logistics is a key industrial strength of this country and Georgia will benefit from it. Second are the new technologies coming out of Georgia Tech. Venture capital has been almost invisible in metro Atlanta, but is starting a resurgence. More deals will attract more capital. Third, the oversupply of housing is starting to be worked off. This is an enormous drag on both the local and national economy. Read the pages of the Atlanta Business Chronicle, light manufacturing is starting to move into the state. The proximity to the port of Savannah will attract more over time. Unions don’t seem to have much of a presence in the private sector here.
The state – Southern Companies – does need to build more power generation facilities. There cannot be any uncertainty about the need to meet demand for electricity.
larry
September 21st, 2012
9:19 am
The unemployment rate in this state has been higher than the national average since July 2007. Thats over 5 years and 2 months.
And people blame the federal government?
Something isnt working.
Road Scholar
September 21st, 2012
9:19 am
I believe it was Clark Howard who said yesterday that the unemployment stats are a reflection of people out of work not having the job skills needed for today’s economy/jobs. I think he has something there. I wonder if all work hard also. But just working hard does not mean success if you are working hard at something nobody wants!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:20 am
Annie: Georgia will suffer economic decline so long as unthinking and selfish
citizens, and the politicianspoliticians and the not-so-smart people who pander to them, refuse to raise the revenue needed to support essential jobs and make the infrastructure improvements needed to attract private investment.Fixed it for ya!
Southpaw: More jobs” certainly has a nice ring to it. But is it really the responsibility of the state government to provide jobs? I’d better take another look at the state Constitution.
So it’s not the STATE’s responsibility to provide jobs, but it’s OBAMA’s (Federal) responsibility is that correct? I mean that’s what Romney said he’ll “hit” Obama with during this election, jobs, jobs, jobs.
Frog: Until that happens
you get the government
you deserve
Hiyah Frog!! You sound so cynical today! You usually have some points of optimism in your posts; but today……………..
Mr. _B: No Jay, You just don’t get it. We just haven’t cut taxes and education enough yet, or ditch enough worthless regulations. (We’ll probably get around to that as soon as we put the finishing touches on the next mandatory pregnancy bill.)
Too Funny!!
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:20 am
Tall
September 21st, 2012
9:17 am
Good points and an excellent post.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 21st, 2012
9:20 am
The state Legislature and much of the state’s business community seemed perfectly content to follow his lack of leadership
Nice.
Aquagirl
September 21st, 2012
9:22 am
why dont you count the minorities in Ga. find what percentage is on the government dole and see if 47% is actually a low number.
Well, there’s the problem…too many dark people. Thanks, Willieb. That’s some insightful analysis.
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:22 am
Ga. can forget about local companies staffing Industrial Construction jobs because there are no companies large enough to handle large Industrial Construction projects.
Two reasons. No union apprenticeships to train pipefitters, electricians, and iron workers and no large jobs to use for training. There are very few large Industrial Construction jobs because there are limited qualified craftsmen. Catch 22
larry
September 21st, 2012
9:23 am
If the governor, being the astute businessman that he is, feels like the Lake Lanier project is worthy of a $4.5 million investment from the state, I’ll have to go along with him — providing he co-signs.
Let’s hope not, or else the project, once the governor finds out he’s over his financially, will sell and self-finance the project himself, probably to that guy in California. You know, the one who has a bunch of pawn shops and porn shops.
I wonder what kind of interest rate the governor gave him.
Sagegirl
September 21st, 2012
9:24 am
Off topic, but Homer Simpson votes for Mitt!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/homer-simpson-votes-mitt-romney-200602954–election.html
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:24 am
Hey do you guys know Ga is having a bumper crop in peanuts. Yes the local economies are sure to feel a bump in income. I know it is not the CDC or Apple but it is what Ga does.
alittlecommonsense
September 21st, 2012
9:24 am
Jay – You are basically saying that our taxes are very low in Georgia and that isn’t helping make our economy better. Unfortunately, you are basing this on a faulty premise. Georgia is solidly mid-pack when compared to other states as far as tax rates.
Mid pack on sales taxes -
http://taxfoundation.org/article/ranking-state-and-local-sales-taxes-1
Higher than average business taxes -
http://taxfoundation.org/article/2012-state-business-tax-climate-index
Average at best overall -
http://www.money-zine.com/Financial-Planning/Tax-Shelter/Tax-Friendly-States/
Maybe we should actually try low taxes before we say they don’t work.
too little time
September 21st, 2012
9:24 am
There is a lot of hand wringing in this piece. We could take a look at th opposite end of the spectrum… California… a solidly blue state with one of the highest debt per capita and unemployment rates in the nation.
Taking a look at ALL states, those bluest of blue states have the highest per capita debt in the nation, and unemployment rates are all over the place. There is virtually no correlation between red/blue states and unemployment rates. Sorry, but the Georgia Republican bashing in this blog doesn’t pass the muster when looking at even simple comparisons to other states. Georgia, on the whole, is no better or worse than Democratic controlled states.
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
9:25 am
Debbie Do
I am optimistic that cynicism
is underrated. Petty Dukes
are overrated.
Fly-On-The-Wall
September 21st, 2012
9:25 am
Truly amazing the lack of leadership from Republicans in this state.
St Simons - (ab)original Georgian
September 21st, 2012
9:26 am
don’t fret Georgia. We here here before, and we’ll be here after.
51-47 – that’s called Hope
when the demographics flip 5 more percent, that’s called Change
GT
September 21st, 2012
9:26 am
When the Democrats had control of Georgia at least their was some impediment to the raw bone hatred and at least suggestions of misplace priority in the state. Now, with the Republican Party, they have a facilitator who turns a blind eye to all the destructive behavior inherit in the history and personality of this state.
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
9:27 am
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:17 am
Even before the strike Illinois ranked higher than Georgia in education. I don’t believe there is a correlation between teacher pay and results although I do think in all areas of employment higher pay usually leads to more contentment among the employed. I am a firm believer in the Charter school system but public education is still a must in this society we just need to do it better.
kayaker 71
September 21st, 2012
9:28 am
Wonder how fast GA’s unemployment rate will decline when Bozo loses his job. Wonder why those evil corporations all over the state are sitting on gazillions of dollars and not investing it in their business. Wonder why those same evil corporations are worried about their health care obligations to their employees under Bozocare. No one invests money into ANYTHING when economic uncertainty is so prevalent. Business has to find a good solid chance of improving where they are if they spend any of their money, and, in this climate, they will continue to do nothing until some sanity appears on the economic horizon.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:28 am
“Truly amazing the lack of leadership from Republicans in this state.”
Yeah, those liberal democrats are doing a heck of job are they not? We had to stop the economy so we could get gay marriage on the books. Yep democrat leaders never digress from the real problems.
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
9:29 am
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:22 am
That might explain the large numbers of undocumented workers during Georgia’s housing boom.
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
9:29 am
Look at out con bloggers here.
Is it any wonder that the people they elect are also incompetent, immoral, lazy mental midgets?
Welcome to Georgia. First in corruption, first in obesity, last in education.
Fly-On-The-Wall
September 21st, 2012
9:29 am
Somebody let me know when Jay posts a really good topic like abortion or welfare cause we all know that’s what is wrong with this country and if we just fix those things then god will bless us all with high paying jobs. //snarc//
Ivan
September 21st, 2012
9:31 am
“Georgia is a red state!
…yeah, the GOPer won by a whopping 5.2 percent margin in 2008.
It’ll be red fo-evah. fo-shizzle.”
It takes skill to write something, and not have a point.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:31 am
“although I do think in all areas of employment higher pay usually leads to more contentment among the employed.”
I can say Amen to that!
Fly-On-The-Wall
September 21st, 2012
9:32 am
Williebkind – yes as a matter of fact those Democratics did do a lot better.
G Mare
September 21st, 2012
9:33 am
Enter your comments here
yuzeyurbrane
September 21st, 2012
9:34 am
Jay, your article is too well reasoned to be considered by Governor Deal and the Tea Party group to whom he panders. And the business leaders are not of the Ivan Allen caliber anymore. So the state meanders on with the take 2 tax cuts and call me in the morning philosophy. Only a dunce would not see that the policies in place do not work to promote Georgia’s prosperity. I guess we have a lot of dunces here.
Jay
September 21st, 2012
9:34 am
Most recent data I could find on state and local per capita tax burden: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=513
Bottom line?
National average: $4,141
Georgia: $3,206
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:34 am
Steve: How much of the education spending decline was at the County level? Counties were/are broke.
The state gets a stipend from the government every year, who then in turn, disseminate the money down to the county levels. The state has been “witch hunting” counties for a long time now and making up excuses to not given the counties their fair share.
JKL2 : -So it seems fair to ask: What’s the plan?
Obama says,”What?”
Democrats don’t do “plans”. I guess it is only a concern if you have an (R) behind your name…
I KNEW it! Your republican governor doesn’t do his job? It’s OBama’s fault!! Your republican state senators don’t do their jobs? It’s Obama’s fault!! Your republican state congress doesn’t do their job? Say it with me boys and girls, “It’s OBAMA’s FAULT!!” Classic!
St Simons - (ab)original Georgian
September 21st, 2012
9:35 am
Here’s what we decided –
Make a choice. Stay Here. Flip Georgia & run the carpetbaggers off.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:36 am
Ivan
September 21st, 2012
9:31 am
Reagin said liberals sure got a lot to say about nothing. However they can write it eloquently. That is education in their eyes.
DannyX
September 21st, 2012
9:36 am
“California added 365,100 nonfarm jobs in the year ending in July, a 2.6 percent increase and the state’s largest 12-month gain since 2000. That beats every other state, including Texas, which added 222,500 jobs over the past year.”
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-06/californias-job-growth-outpaces-texass
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
9:36 am
Georgia politicians are
evidence that abortion
has been severely underutilized.
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
9:37 am
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:34 am
Maybe we can get Jay to set that to music and we can use it as our weekend travelin tunes.
godless heathen
September 21st, 2012
9:37 am
And we all know that levying $60 million in fines against King America for the Ogeechee Fish kill would have created thousands of jobs.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
9:38 am
I think the reason we are worse off than the neighboring states is because in the great recession Atlanta got hit especially hard in terms of tech job and IT losses. Being the regional technology center I’ve read a few times that we took it harder than our neighbors because of these technology job losses.
As for the specific man whose company knowingly poisoned the river well what can I say. He just needs a good ole fashioned ass whupping. Either that or we need to trap a black bear that drinks from that river and put this jackass in a cage with Mr. Black Bear. Let Mr. Bear learn him a lesson or 2 about poisoning our rivers.
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:39 am
willie – there are plenty of house builders around Ga. I`m talking about Industrial Jobs workers. Nuke plants, auto plants, power plants etc.
I helped build the Northrop plant down in Perry years ago. We had to use subcontractors for other states because there were no Ga. companies large enough to handle that much work and the GA. skilled construction labor force has gotten worse.
GT
September 21st, 2012
9:39 am
kayaker 71 this state was circling the bowl long before the recession started. It is an example of what not to do in economics.
Romney certainly didn’t run Mass. like this and he was very successful in what he did. Wonder why?
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:40 am
“yes as a matter of fact those Democratics did do a lot better.”
Was that Democrats or liberal democrats? There was a difference in that party once upon a time. Now using Clinton’s train of thought, If fact is fact what facts are you referring to?
Don't Tread
September 21st, 2012
9:41 am
I’m surprised you refrained for 5 paragraphs before launching into the Republican-bashing.
It’s all Bush’s fault, of course
mississippi
September 21st, 2012
9:42 am
On a serious note, Georgia’s economy is (was) largely tied up in housing/development. The people in Atlanta’s burbs lived large off home equity loans and developers built homes and condos way beyond demand. We have dozens of rural banks going under because of all the bad loans they made for vacation homes in the sticks that nobody wants or can afford. When the housing bubble burst, these areas got hit the hardest. Under Barnes, the Democrats had passed a law that would have prevented a lot of the bad loans, but when Sonny boy came in, he and his got rid of it asap (we don’t want no stinkin’ rules). It will take awhile for there to be a recovery when your state was ground zero for the types of practices that caused the problem in the first place.
Not to fear, however, Nathan has an answer to the problem – give a lot of money to movie studios to make movies – that’ll help. Help the movie studios, that is.
Ben
September 21st, 2012
9:42 am
Do some research, you’ll find that once you hit a certain point, education funding is not correlate with education results. The system is the problem, and throwing more money at it just wastes money and avoids the cause of the problem.
Aquagirl
September 21st, 2012
9:43 am
Your republican governor doesn’t do his job? It’s OBama’s fault!!
How can anyone work with a marxist-socialist-kenyan hovering over their shoulder? We’re lucky the smart guys like Deal are even here, not holed up in their Randian hideaways waiting for everything to collapse without them.
Just think, in 2007 folks in the middle of nowhere would have been deprived of $800 fishing poles. We should be grateful for the smart business providers presence.
kayaker 71
September 21st, 2012
9:43 am
So, it appears that today Bozo and the gang seem to be content with the attacks in Libya being a “terrorist attack” and not a spontaneous demonstration tied to some anti-Islamic film. Susan Rice is some kind of visionary to discount the fact that the embassy was not secure, we didn’t have personnel there to help protect our embassy officials, the Libyans revealed the safe house that the Ambassador was using, thereby, contributing greatly to his death, the Muslim Brotherhood head of that country was no doubt, if not complicit, had prior knowledge of the attacks……. and all Bozo can do is soft peddle around the facts, finally admitting today that what happened was a terrorist attack aimed at taking out Americans. But we can’t, under any circumstances, hurt these delicate, caring misunderstood sons of Allah or what they call a “religion”. Bozo is not only an arrogant buffoon, but also qualifies for the milk toast empty suit of the week.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
9:43 am
godless heathen,
I’m not sure that the fines would do the job either although some kind of financial damages are without a doubt in order. I would hate to see the end result being people losing their jobs. But what I would like to see is the man or men who knowingly poisoned our river go to prison although I doubt a criminal case can be made against them. Makes my blood boil that someone would knowingly dump toxic chemicals into our river system.
larry
September 21st, 2012
9:44 am
This is hillarious………………. For all of you Fox viewers and Drudge lovers…………..
“Fox and Friends” got another report about President Obama wrong on Thursday.
Wednesday was Talk Like A Pirate Day, and Obama’s campaign tweeted a gag photo of him sitting down with a pirate. The picture was taken in 2009 for the White House Correspondents Dinner that year.
“Fox and Friends,” however, falsely reported that the photo was taken recently. The morning show showed the picture with the caption “TOO BUSY FOR ISRAEL: President finds time for pirate, Letterman.”
Co-host Steve Doocy said the picture showed “what President Obama has been up to,” adding that he made sure “he didn’t forget to mark International Talk Like A Pirate Day.” Later, Brian Kilmeade said, “This pirate got a sit-down in the Oval Office yesterday.”
Media Matters reported that the Drudge Report was first to post the pirate picture with the headline “But No Time For Netanyahu…” and surmised that “Fox and Friends” probably took after the site’s framing.
Later, the show acknowledged that it had gotten the timing wrong, tweeting:
fox & friends✔
@foxandfriends
The picture we aired this morning of the President & the pirate was from 2009
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:44 am
“the GA. skilled construction labor force has gotten worse”
I can agree with that! Reason? Take a look at our colleges and high schools. These institutions are in for the money and not education. They and parents tell their kids to get a degree and not a SKILL. We have so many graduating using the Georgia grants in liberal art degress and do not have the skills to pour water out of a boot. We need manufacturing and science not the big bang theory or the mating ritual of some frog in the desert.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
9:46 am
larry
September 21st, 2012
9:44 am
Did it take them two weeks or did they make excuses for the error?
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
9:47 am
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:39 am
Gotcha!
Ol' Timer
September 21st, 2012
9:48 am
“As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand,” so says ol’ Josh Billings and it seems he might have been reading over our shoulders at some of these bewildering and absolutely idiotic posts.
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
9:49 am
williebkind
“the mating ritual
of some frog in the desert.”
……….
you might be surprised how
important that is to some
of us..
Jay
September 21st, 2012
9:49 am
BTW, the BLS will release new state-level unemployment numbers at 10 a.m., and I’ll update the numbers above to reflect that.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:49 am
More and more republican apologists – It’s Obama’s Fault Redux:
Georgia’s decline mirrors the country. Bush might have drove the car in the ditch as Obama likes to say. Obama took over the car and took it to the salvage yard and had it crushed. You only need to look as far as the cast of Characters that Obama has put around himself to know that we were not in for a recover
And………..
Obama’s frantic equivocating and dodging and weaving to talk about anything but the economy is a tacit admission that all is not well on the recession/depression trajectory
And one more………………..
You elect someone to the office of POTUS who has NO executive experience of any sort to speak of and this economy is what you get.
IOW^^^^ – Say it with me boys and girls, “It’s Obama’s Fault that Georgia sucks!!!
Classic!
John Konop
September 21st, 2012
9:52 am
Jay,
Before the crash, I explained to you years ago that the growth was based on irrational lending, and people on a macro were living on their houses like an ATM machine ie selling and or refinancing. We have had flat wages since about the 70’s and this would create a crash via the above.. At the time you laughed and thought I was ‘chicken little”. Georgia was one on the biggest abusers of the above economics.
The way out of this is fairly simple. One until the over built inventory in Georgia on a macro depletes we will not see any major growth ie lack of building. Two, we must focus on our best industries in Georgia ie bio meds, technology, financial services as well as attract other businesses. Three, we must improve infrastructure, the better movement of goods and people creates economic growth. Forth we must re-tool the education system to help fill the 4 million vocational jobs now open, btw will create more jobs via their spending when we fill the jobs ie kill NCLB teach to the test 4 year college prep or you are out system. Finally we must enforce trade agreement violations that drive down wages for Americans.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
9:52 am
Larry,
The pirate thing may be wrong but there’s no doubt that Obama apparently has more time for fundraisers, Jayzee and Beyonce, David Letterman, and radio shows called “the Pimp with the Limp” then he does for dealing with Netanyahu.
And btw has the administration gotten their story straight on whether the 4 Americans in Libya were killed in a calculated terrorist attack or whether it was the result of a spontaneous mob? You would think that after 9 days that they would get it right and quit contradicting themselves.
larry
September 21st, 2012
9:52 am
Did it take them two weeks or did they make excuses for the error?
It used too. It just goes to show that they will fall for anything to make the president look bad.
skydog
September 21st, 2012
9:53 am
…kinda partial to frogs are you? I like them legs myself.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
9:55 am
stands: Sigh. That guy who held up the sign at those Occupy protests that read “Sh-t is F-cked Up and Bullsh-t”? I am starting to think he was a bit of an optimist.)
Signs? You want signs? This little gem was given to me last night by Kam. Made me laugh so hard!! AND as an added bonus, made me sleep really good too!
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/09/20/too-failed-to-bail/#comment-110760
Enjoy.
kayaker 71
September 21st, 2012
9:57 am
larry, 9:44,
If the point was that the president didn’t have time for Bebe, there are some other Letterman photos that could have been run. Also, we might try ones of the View or the Voice, whatever, and then there’s always the fund raiser with that racist black rapper and his wife. When the tanks roll across the desert toward Iran, Bozo is going to have to take sides…… make a decision….. get his finger out of his mouth, you know….. grow a pair. And all of the “love” that he has cultivated with all of them sons of Allah will fly right out the window.
mississippi
September 21st, 2012
9:57 am
Thulsa and kayakkker, did you guys help Mitt slather on the brown makeup he wore for his appearance to speak to the Hispanic audience?
larry
September 21st, 2012
9:58 am
State Dept spokesperson and Jake Carney saying ‘we don’t have all the info yet. We won’t speculate. We know there were demonstrations and people are upset about the video but we have not yet verified the other information.”
I guess you want them to jump to conclusions than to take the time and make sure they get it right.
Partisay
September 21st, 2012
9:59 am
Meanwhile, on the biased news watch….
The picture depicted Obama sitting in the Oval Office with a man in a colorful pirate outfit, complete with a red hat, eye patch and hook for a right arm. It was taken as a punch line for a joke Obama delivered to the White House Correspondents Association dinner in 2009.
The picture resurfaced Wednesday. Over an on-screen graphic that said “Arrrgh You Kidding?”, Fox ran the picture Thursday morning with host Brian Kilmeade saying, “The White House doesn’t have the time to meet with the prime minister of Israel, but this pirate got a sit-down in the Oval Office yesterday.”
Later, with “yo-ho-ho” music in the background, Fox showed the picture as its “Shot of the Morning,” with host Steve Doocy saying, “Here’s a quick look at what President Obama is up to, making sure he didn’t forget to mark International Talk Like a Pirate Day.”
After the show ended, the “Fox & Friends” Twitter feed noted that the pirate picture was from 2009.
Doocy also tweeted: “By the way, our picture of the president with the pirate was from 2009. How time flies!”
So……are they so inept that they didn’t know the picture was from 2009? Or is it they are so biased and dishonest they intentionally wanted their audience to believe that this was what the President was doing “yesterday.”
How about it cons….which is it.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
9:59 am
“It’s Obama’s Fault that Georgia sucks!!!
Naw. Not completely. I guess we can give some credit to Deal and that we should also give some credit to the Dems who run the state’s economic engine- Atlanta.
Partisay
September 21st, 2012
10:00 am
Larry…you beat me to the punch!
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:01 am
So, it appears that today Flip and the gang seem to be content with labeling our American embassy personnel as sympathizers with those who attacked them…
Unfit to lead.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
September 21st, 2012
10:01 am
ITS ALL THE TEA PARTIES FAULT
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
September 21st, 2012
10:02 am
You cant fix stoopid!
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YEP – WE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:03 am
“Thulsa and kayakkker, did you guys help Mitt slather on the brown makeup he wore for his appearance to speak to the Hispanic audience?”
No. He just borrowed the makeup from the local traveling Democratic clownshow. They had lots of clowns with plenty of extra makeup.
larry
September 21st, 2012
10:03 am
Yep, we sure can blame Atlanta for the over 10% unemployment rate here in this rural county in NE Georgia.
Yep, its Atlanta’s fault. Why we even saw Mayor Reed up here himself , taking jobs out of this rural NE Georgia county.
Facepalm
MANGLER
September 21st, 2012
10:04 am
It’s hard to hear a clear voice coming from the GOP who scream out of both sides of their mouths;
one side saying the Gov’t needs to be smaller, more efficient, not become a Nanny State, isn’t responsible for job creation and needs to tax less,
and the other side that cries about laying off Gov’t workers, taking too long to get a license or upgrade infrastructure, reducing medicare and social security payments, and underperfoming job creation based tax policies.
Which do you want? A Government large enough to enforce and pay for it’s policies and services that you so desire, or a skeleton crew of disnefranchised workers with no power to enforce anything?
Partisay
September 21st, 2012
10:05 am
The pirate thing may be wrong …..
MAY have been wrong Thulsa? You can’t bring yourself to say that it WAS wrong? Just wonder which side you fall on…they were being flat-out dishonest by making their viewers think the pic was made “yesterday” or they were actully running the pic not knowing it was taken in 2009.
Which side you fall on Thulsa?
skydog
September 21st, 2012
10:05 am
Sister Sarah P. was orange last night on TV.
Are these folks skinny dipping in Tang?
Eating Cheetoos in bed?
Orange is the new sign of lying rather than your nose growing longer?
Woody
September 21st, 2012
10:05 am
Thank you, Jay! Thank you. Let’s keep asking the question: “Why is Georgia such a poor state?” And quit electing politicians who don’t have an answer to that.
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
10:06 am
Since Jay likes the national unemployment numbers let’s use them. I understand that the “educated”, that is college graduates have an unemployment rate of a little over 4%. It is the minorities and the poor who suffer the most under the failed obama economic policy This is particularly true of african americans who are unemployed at a rate of some 14%.plus or minus. With the large minority population in Georgia it seems to me that Georgia’s over all rate is as good as the national average and maybe even better. .
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
10:06 am
Orange is the new pink.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 21st, 2012
10:07 am
Well, you got to look on the bright side. Right now I got a better edumacation by going thru the 5th grade three times than most of the high school graduates today. I sorta like all of a sudden being one of the brighter people in the state.
And speeding’s way down. The clogged roads make it awful hard for anybody to break the speed limit—except this Michael Turner on his way home from the strip club at 3 in the a.m. It’s about the only time he’s speedy; he spends most of his time on the football field tip-toeing up the back of one of his offensive linemen.
I’m pretty sure there’s other stuff we can pat ourselfs on the back for. It’s just that I’m out here humping it and trying to get you
drunksmusic lovers ready for tonight and I ain’t got time to do much thinking. Besides, I wouldn’t want to think so much I become a librul Democrat.Have a good Friday everybody and remember, things is looking up!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
10:07 am
Thulsa
I wouldn’t waste too much time on BiBi.
His poll numbers at home are in the 30’s and there appears to be an excellent chance that he’ll be forced to move up parliamentary elections from 2015 to early next year.
The meme in Israel currently Who is BiBi Try to depose?
Ahmadinejad Or Obama.
And I assume you read his statement on that released yesterday.
Remember, BiBi lost his job before for being a radical rightie
and he’s headed in that same direction now.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:07 am
“How about it cons….which is it.”
Seems clear to me. He had time for the pirate in 09 but not this year since he’s tied up with Beyonce, Jayzee, David Letterman, the view, and “The Pimp with the Limp”. Blackbeard is going to have to wait his turn again till the next go round- just like Bebe.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
10:07 am
ann tells the gop to stop it. It is hard.
I say bs.
Stop attacking our President.
Tell the truth.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
10:08 am
“White House Press Secretary Jay Carney says deadly attack on US Consulate in Libya was an act of terror, but President Obama seems to backtrack, appearing to stick by story anti-Islam film is to blame.”
And NO WONDER the economy is bad !!!
getalife
September 21st, 2012
10:08 am
We don’t answer to Israel or any other country doomy.
Got it?
Partisay
September 21st, 2012
10:09 am
kayaker 71 – If the point was that the president didn’t have time for Bebe, there are some other Letterman photos that could have been run….
So…why didn’t they just run those then? Why be dishonest and run a 3 year old picture and say it was taken yesterday?
Looking forward to your answer…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
10:09 am
How is MARTA doing today ?
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
10:09 am
rwcole – The state of GA has been at 48th or 49th in education for a long time now. We all knew this day was coming. Poorly educated students become poorly educated voters and lawmakers.
except GA is 7th nationally in quality of education while 38th in adjustment per-pupil expenditure…or we can continue to make up excuses that fit your narrative
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2012/jan/13/georgia-ranks-no-7-nation-new-education-report/
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
10:10 am
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
9:52 am
How much time does President Obama need to give to Netanyahu? Every U.S. administration since Nixon has had to deal with this particularly odd “peace” process. It’s time to let other players participate in the moribund dance known as the Mid-East Peace Process.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
10:10 am
Why did the Romney campaign give out bonuses?
It’s not as though the staff has done a bang up job?
larry
September 21st, 2012
10:11 am
Which do you want? A Government large enough to enforce and pay for it’s policies and services that you so desire, or a skeleton crew of disnefranchised workers with no power to enforce anything?
The problem is they want a government large enough to enforce but they dont want to pay for its policies and services.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:12 am
Granny Godzilla,
That would be a valid point except that this isn’t 2015. Its still 2012 and the middle east is a powder keg not just with the riots and embassy protests but also the seriousness of a looming showdown with Iran over nuclear weaponry. Considering that Israel is probably pondering an airstrike against Iran with or without U.S. help you would think the seriousness of that possibility would be enough to garner a sitdown between the 2 men. The fact that Obama doesn’t seem to think a possible Israeli airstrike and possible war with Iran doesn’t warrant that much attention speaks volumes about his judgment.
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
10:13 am
Granny Godzilla
Romney is proud of them
making him number 2.
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
10:15 am
First on third. Who’s on first?
getalife
September 21st, 2012
10:15 am
I think the leader of Israel is to blame.
Runs his mouth to our President and warmongering with Iran at the wrong time.
If you care about Israel, blame their leader.
Partisay
September 21st, 2012
10:16 am
Thulsa…didn’t think you would actually answer the question that was asked.
“He had time for the pirate in 09 but not this year…” That’s not what Fox said that morning.
You have no opinion on the dishonesty of Fox & Friends?
Wow…what a surprise.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
10:17 am
Willie lynch: Remember their slogan in 2008? “Country First!” They must have meant some other country.
Your comments reminded me of something………Oh yeah that’s right, the republican, “Contract With America” Here are some highlights…………:
On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:
* FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress; [Ironic isn’t it?]
* SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
* THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
* FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
* FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
* SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
* SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
* EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress, we shall bring to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to be immediately available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.
1. THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT: A balanced budget/tax limitation amendment and a legislative line-item veto to restore fiscal responsibility to an out- of-control Congress, requiring them to live under the same budget constraints as families and businesses. [Ironic!]
2. THE TAKING BACK OUR STREETS ACT:
3. THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT
4. THE FAMILY REINFORCEMENT ACT)
5. THE AMERICAN DREAM RESTORATION ACT: A S500 per child tax credit, begin repeal of the marriage tax penalty, and creation of American Dream Savings Accounts to provide middle class tax relief.
6. THE NATIONAL SECURITY RESTORATION ACT:
7. THE SENIOR CITIZENS FAIRNESS ACT:
8. THE JOB CREATION AND WAGE ENHANCEMENT ACT: Small business incentives, capital gains cut and indexation, neutral cost recovery, risk assessment/cost-benefit analysis, strengthening the Regulatory Flexibility Act and unfunded mandate reform to create jobs and raise worker wages. (Bill Text) (Description)
9. THE COMMON SENSE LEGAL REFORM ACT
10. THE CITIZEN LEGISLATURE ACT: A first-ever vote on term limits to replace career politicians with citizen legislators.
Further, we will instruct the House Budget Committee to report to the floor and we will work to enact additional budget savings, beyond the budget cuts specifically included in the legislation described above, to ensure that the Federal budget deficit will be less than it would have been without the enactment of these bills.
Respecting the judgment of our fellow citizens as we seek their mandate for reform, we hereby pledge our names to this Contract with America.
Oh the irony! It hurts……..it just hurts……………
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:17 am
“It’s time to let other players participate in the moribund dance known as the Mid-East Peace Process.”
willie lynch,
Who are these other players? Seriously. Who else wields the type of influence and diplomacy that we do between the Israelis and the Arabs?
And I don’t think Netanyahu is asking for too much. A half a day or a one day sitdown to discuss some pretty hot events in the most volatile region of the world seems wise to me.
And if a shooting war takes place because we just ignored everything then what’s going to happen to the price of oil? Are Dems and their constituents looking forward to $5-$10 a gallon gas? It would be a devastating blow to our already fragile economy, it could trigger another recession, and once again would hurt poor and middle class people the most.
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:18 am
…college graduates have an unemployment rate of a little over 4%
No, it is actually 5.2%.
And even so, the corporate destruction of capitalism is taking a huge toll…
About 1.5 million, or 53.6 percent, of bachelor’s degree-holders under the age of 25 last year were jobless or underemployed, the highest share in at least 11 years. In 2000, the share was at a low of 41 percent, before the dot-com bust erased job gains for college graduates in the telecommunications and IT fields.
Out of the 1.5 million who languished in the job market, about half were underemployed, an increase from the previous year.
You’re doing a heckuva job Titans of Industry…
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
10:20 am
I agree with this article except for the final few words: “. . .or is the passive attitude (of Georgia’s leadership) of the last 10 years the best we can do?”
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I believe that the Republican leadership of Georgia has been not been passive at all, but has, in fact, been quite active in following the national Republican ideological agenda in Georgia. For example, I would encourage all readers to check out Jim Galloway’s “Political Insider” column on the poll taken to assess the charter school movement in Georgia (Sept. 19, 2012).
Galloway says in his opening line, “The forces behind Georgia’s charter school amendment to the state constitution are out with a new poll this morning that shows voters still comfortably in favor of the measure.”
As the last poster on that thread, I suggested that readers to check out information about this polling group at this link: http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/5
There, readers will learn that this is a Republican polling group, not a non-partisan one. On the polling group’s website are these words “The Washington Times cites McLaughlin and Associates as one of the best Republican polling firms.” The clients of this group include Gov. Nathan Deal, Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, the Republican National Committee, the Republican Governor’s Association, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, Republican Senators Toomey, Lugar, Shelby, Sessions, among others Republican senators. The CEO and Partner John McLaughlin writes on the “Home Page” of this website that his firm had been “working with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor to help him win a majority in Congress.”
This polling group, evidently then, acts to help clients win elections, not to simply give them polling results. Moreover, in previewing the questions that this polling group submitted to Georgians on the constitutional amendment, I found the questions to be quite leading in promoting the value of this constitutional amendment. That is my opinion. And, it is, also, my opinion that the Republican leaders in Georgia have not been “passive” in governing Georgia. It appears that they have, in fact, been actively engaged in establishing within Georgia policies that are very similar to those advocated by national Republican ideologues of power and influence. Furthermore, I believe that their efforts, in this ideological direction, have caused the relatively poor results in Georgia, that are mentioned in the above article.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
10:20 am
I case you missed the big news yesterday. the surge troops in Afghanistan are coming home.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:21 am
Partisay,
So Fox made a mistake, got it wrong, and had to try to laugh away their gaffe. Sooo….. Are you that consumed with Fox news? Did you have this kind of outrage when Dan Rather and 60 minutes got it wrong with bogus documents about W’s guard service? Something tells me your outrage is somewhat selective.
Matti
September 21st, 2012
10:23 am
The Georgia GOP has been winning the propaganda war for more than a decade. That’s the only thing you can legitimately put in their “win” column. (Certainly not our economy or education!) The majority of Georgians believe whatever they’re shoveling, no matter how much it stinks. The majority of Georgians will not bother themselves to fact check anything.
Now, it would be patently unfair to simply blame the Georgia GOP (who gets shiz tons of money from outside the state, to be sure.) BLAME THE DEMOCRATS too. The Georgia Democrats are too busy squabbling amongst themselves to fight the propaganda war. The National Democrats don’t give us any money at all besides paying a couple of state-level salaries. Oh sure, they call us asking for money all the time — money they will not spend here. (Zip, zilch, notta.) Meanwhile, the propaganda machines crank out the rhetoric of (a) hate those who are different, and (b) the POOR people took all your money!
And the dipshizzes swallow it whole, wipe their mouths and ask for more. DEMOCRATS, where the *bleep* ARE you? Yeah, I didn’t see you at the meeting last week. Why is that? Why don’t you get off your sorry behinds, stop blaming the Rethuglies, and start fighting back for a change?
Ivan
September 21st, 2012
10:23 am
“barking frog
September 21st, 2012
9:49 am
williebkind
“the mating ritual
of some frog in the desert.”
……….
you might be surprised how
important that is to some
of us..
_________
Ok now that was funny.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
10:24 am
fox is romney headquarters. Even mcconnell’s wife is part of the campaign. They will still lose.
Darwin
September 21st, 2012
10:25 am
Apparently the people of Georgia are content.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
10:26 am
Thulsa
Correct it’s 2012….and early next year is 2013.
Read better.
Putting Bibi in his place is masterful judgement.
skydog
September 21st, 2012
10:28 am
Israel is like building in the Mississippi delta or building on beach front property.
We can`t stop you, but your stuff will get washed away.
zeke
September 21st, 2012
10:28 am
Not to burst your liberal bubble, but, DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING! First and foremost, Georgia, mainly Atlanta have got to move away from policies of anything black for black sake and move toward policies that will benefit ALL Georgians! Throwing dollar after dollar at schools will do nothing to increase education or students performance on standard tests! The remedies are still not clearly defined, but, more and more government spending of confiscated money from taxpayers is not the answer!
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
10:28 am
Below is an explanation from the Daily Caller regarding July unemployment that explains quite well why the problems in Georgia are caused by the economic policies or lack threof by Obama rather than the Republican government in Georgia.
President Obama’s policies have been devastating to minority communities and to the most vulnerable in our society. America is suffering through the longest period of high unemployment since the Great Depression: Unemployment has been stuck over 8 percent for almost three-and-a-half years under Obama, after averaging only 5.3 percent under President George W. Bush. Minority communities have been hit much harder: African-American unemployment is 14.4 percent, and black youth unemployment is an obscene 44.2 percent. Latino unemployment is 11 percent. I recited these figures recently to a gathering of Pacific Islanders in Nevada, which is being crushed by the highest unemployment rate and worst housing crisis in the country. They didn’t need to hear these numbers to know that their community is hurting. If you had tried to tell these folks, three-and-a-half years into the Obama presidency, that their ongoing misery was President Bush’s fault, they would rightly have considered that to be an insult to their intelligence.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/24/obamas-sense-of-fairness-is-unfair-to-minorities/#ixzz2776XXOSI
Aquagirl
September 21st, 2012
10:31 am
Did you have this kind of outrage when Dan Rather and 60 minutes got it wrong with bogus documents about W’s guard service?
Yes, people were pretty outraged, CBS fired several executives and Dan Rather “retired” shortly afterwards. Hell, the whole show was canceled.
I look forward to Faux expressing their outrage in the same manner.
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:31 am
If there was a Darwin Award for US states, Georgia would be in the running for number one.
The Deal administration stinks on ice and Georgia is falling further and further and further behind those segments of an educated, enlightened nation.
And the rubes here talk about what?
The Uppity Kenyan Marxist without a Birth Certificate.
We are screwed…
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
10:31 am
Matti – 7th nationally in quality of education isn’t a win?
Robert Lee
September 21st, 2012
10:32 am
Its kind of funny, if you beleive the Repubs then you’d think that Obama would be lagging by 20 or 30 points in the polls, and Romney would be looking like a saviour for America. But the truth is that Obama is either leading or even in the polls, which leads me to ask this question, How can that be?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
10:35 am
We need more undocumented workers to do the jobs Americans don’t want to do. Oh, and they should be unionized so they can keep wages up.
DannyX
September 21st, 2012
10:36 am
“But the truth is that Obama is either leading or even in the polls, which leads me to ask this question, How can that be?”
Automated Stock Answer Reply:
Liberal media
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
10:36 am
Aquagirl, well I am sure that with all the daily “corrections” from Faux on their morning show and false claims that they will have the integrity to cancel them. It is so commonplace now on that show that in the SNL parady last night the “corrections” at end included: “Rocky never fought Lassie,” and “Benedict Arnold was not a character from ‘Diff’rent Strokes,’” “Parsley is not one or the Spice Girls” “LOBOR is not a giant praying mantis”…. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ryan/snl-election-special-scorecard_b_1902196.html
dee
September 21st, 2012
10:38 am
I too moved to Georgia over 23 years ago…the state was booming beyond comprehension…the head hunters would leave messages on your voicemail almost begging to hire you…other than widespread city, state, and county (i.e., Gwinnett County) government corruption, where “is” the leadership?; where “are” the plans for reform?; is there anyone left to trust who can responsibly take care of our interests? Just like the federal government, elected officials MUST compromise and agree to disagree to jump start the economy in Georgia. The states which are doing well have Republican governors with a Democrat congress and are doing well, i.e., Ohio, Virginia, etc. Here’s how to get started: 2 Chronicles 7:14 If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:38 am
Righty, an op ed piece by a Bush administration hack, who worked under the gawdawful Gale Norton is credible???
And John and Sarah, would have reduced unemployment in those communities???
Man, talk about a willful suspension of disbelief…
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:39 am
“His poll numbers at home are in the 30’s and there appears to be an excellent chance that he’ll be forced to move up parliamentary elections from 2015 to early next year.”
“Thulsa
Correct it’s 2012….and early next year is 2013.
Read better.”
Granny,
I read just fine. And according to your own post the next elections are 2015 which is what I am going by. You noted that there “appears to be an excellent chance” of him moving up parliamentary elections to early next year. Maybe. Maybe not. Point is that its a hypothetical that we don’t know for sure and can’t see into the future with clarity and predict.
“Putting Bibi in his place is masterful judgement.”
How??? In what way, shape, or form is a personal slight a masterful judgment? Is Obama so thin skinned that he is going to run U.S. foreign policy based on personal likes and dislikes and getting his feelings hurt because the men don’t personally like each other? Is he that petty? Considering what’s at stake what we need is leadership- not a guy who is so small that he’s going to ignore our best friend in the most volatile region of the world just as that region is heating up.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
10:39 am
Cons got any new videos from 1998 they want to spring on us this morning?
I’m skeered just hinkin’ about it…
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
10:40 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
10:07 am
There was a willibemusen poll that showed Mitt Romney 65% to Obama 12% with 23% not home during the pole. Rumor has it they were out getting their new master card for their unemployment checks.
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:41 am
Oh, and Righty.
The Daily Caller?
It was founded by conservative commentator Tucker Carlson and Republican politician Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
It appears to be the political equivalent of the National Enquirer…
Thomas Heyward Jr
September 21st, 2012
10:42 am
Want to see a REAL War on a Woman?
.
Wait until you see what the progs do to Monica Lewinsky.
.
NO ONE talks smack about their Vice-God’s husband.
.
LOL
mississippi
September 21st, 2012
10:42 am
Congrats to Zeke for being the most honest about the Republicans’ real problem.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
10:42 am
Thulsa
Why do you and the Republicans prefer being Israels bee-yotch?
It’s pretty sad really.
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
10:43 am
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
10:20 am
I am confused about your point. Do you expect Republicnas to favor Democrat policies? I vote for Republicans becuase they favor most of the ideas I like. I assume you vote Democrat for the same reasons.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:43 am
Aquagirl,
The guy had to walk it back and come back and state that the pic was from 2009. Though he tried to laugh off the gaffe the damage was done with his admission that the pic was from 3 years ago. They gave the admission that the photo was from 3 years ago. What else do you guys want from them? And though they were wrong at that point it doesn’t change the point that he’s got time for Letterman, the view, jayzee and beyonce, “The pimp with the Limp”, fundraisers, etc. He’s got time for all that but not for our closest ally in the Middle East.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
10:46 am
Oh and Thulsa
read my post again….
look for the 3 words “early next year”
duh.
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
10:46 am
About The Daily Caller. from Wikipedia:
“While the site states it is neutral in regard to ideology, some observers have commented that it is influenced by the libertarian views and right-wing leanings of its founders.”
“Founded by conservative commentator Tucker Carlson and Republican politician Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney. . .”
“Opinion contributors have included conservatives Newt Gingrich, Andrew Breitbart, S.E. Cupp, conservative-turned-liberal Arianna Huffington, and Fox News contributors Juan Williams and Lanny Davis.”
“In an interview with Politico, Carlson said that The Daily Caller will not be tied to ideology but rather will be ‘breaking stories of importance’. In a Washington Post article, Carlson said ‘We’re not enforcing any kind of ideological orthodoxy on anyone. ‘ “
DannyX
September 21st, 2012
10:46 am
Today’s missing from Drudge headline:
JUST IN…BREAKING…
RASMUSSEN: Baldwin (D) 49% Thompson (R) 46%
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
10:47 am
He’s got time for all that but not for our closest ally in the Middle East.
Poppycock nonsense without proof.
Jim163
September 21st, 2012
10:47 am
Maybe Georgia’s unemployment rate is higher then our neighbors because we have a labor higher participation rate, or haven’t figured out how to manipulate it yet.
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:48 am
What will be absolutely hysterical, will be the “disappearance” of willibekind and numerous other neocon bloggers and the “appearance” of a multitude of new neocon bloggers on November 7, 2012!
Here’s to cutting and running, blogging style!
TaxPayer
September 21st, 2012
10:48 am
It’s not a lack of content delivery problem afflicting Georgia’s students, it’s a lack of content absorption and subsequent demonstration of said absorption, as measured by standardized retention rate tests, by said students that is the problem. Well, that and dropout rates, etc.
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
10:49 am
What a difference in tone and substance since 2004:
Unemployment rates were lower than a year earlier in 46 states, higher
in 3 states and the District of Columbia, and unchanged in 1 state.
Washington recorded the largest over-the-year unemployment rate decrease
(-2.1 percentage points), followed by Vermont (-1.7 points) and Kentucky
and North Carolina (-1.6 points each). Twelve additional states had over-
the-year rate declines of at least 1.0 percentage point. No state posted
an unemployment rate increase from September 2003 larger than 0.3 percentage
point. The District of Columbia had a rate increase of 1.1 percentage points
over the year.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/history/laus_10222004.txt
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:49 am
Thulsa
“Why do you and the Republicans prefer being Israels bee-yotch?
It’s pretty sad really.”
Insults aside I would hardly call us Israel’s bee-yotch. Israel has long been our ally and long been the only stable and advanced democracy in the Middle East and a very loyal friend. Unlike the Arabs they don’t kill our ambassadors, bomb and or attack our various embassies, and commit various other terrorist bombings against us including 9/11 and too many terrorist attacks to really go into. I’m disappointed that that even has to be explained to you.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
10:49 am
zeke
September 21st, 2012
10:28 am
Not to burst your liberal bubble, but, DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING! First and foremost, Georgia, mainly Atlanta have got to move away from policies of anything black for black sake and move toward policies that will benefit ALL Georgians! Throwing dollar after dollar at schools will do nothing to increase education or students performance on standard tests! The remedies are still not clearly defined, but, more and more government spending of confiscated money from taxpayers is not the answer!
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Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
10:28 am
Below is an explanation from the Daily Caller regarding July unemployment that explains quite well why the problems in Georgia are caused by the economic policies or lack threof by Obama rather than the Republican government in Georgia.
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Here is proof positive that you just can’t cure stupid. No matter what proof you give these idiot republicans that their cut taxes and shovel all money to the rich policies don’t work, the brain dead will come up with responses like these. We have had 10 years of complete Republican dominance in Georgia politics and these folks can’t see the policies aren’t working and things are getting worse. Yet Mighty Righty says blame Obama? Really?
This is why things will never get better. There are too many people that are too stupid to think for themselves and fail to see that the talk show hosts aren’t giving them truth, they are giving them self serving propaganda. Even the dumbest of dogs will learn if you rub it’s nose in it’s crap enough times, but these people don’t. It’s really really sad, but there is nothing to be done about it.
Their stupidity unfortunately is dragging us ALL down. They ignore Sonny’s crooked land deals. They ignore Nathan’s stealing and payoffs. They ignore Balfour’s dirty dealings. Our education system is in the toilet and their solution is a double secret commission to steal what’s left of local school money and give it to their buddies under the guise of “charter schools” since they have already stolen all they can and run the schools into the ground. Yet folks like those quoted above give them a free pass. All the Republicans have to do is holler, “I love Jesus and abortion is murder” and all is forgiven. Hell they can even date their mistresses in public and take them to the church’s where they are pontificating professing their great faith. it’s disgusting, but like I said, you just can’t cure stupid. How people can continue to listen to the lies and support this I will never be able to figure out.
And to think, I once thought no one could be dumber than a Dade County Democrat. Boy was I ever wrong………….
JamVet
September 21st, 2012
10:50 am
Want to see a REAL War on a Woman?
Sure!
The sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis deserve it!
skydog
September 21st, 2012
10:50 am
Ga. is in far worse shape than most of y`all know.
I have relatives down in Calhoun, Baker, and Dougherty Counties who believe that anyone who lives above Macon is a Yankee.
Yeah, yeah, sticks and stones will break my bones………….
But, they vote using this logic. If the Yankees want anything, vote the opposite way. Issues don`t matter.
Only time will cure this kind of stupidity.
Ivan
September 21st, 2012
10:50 am
Thulsa
Why do you and the Republicans prefer being Israels bee-yotch?
It’s pretty sad really.”
Saw another documentary recently on the atrocities being done in Syria, Iran, etc…
Can’t say I’ve heard about Israel killing school children and dumping them in mass graves. All because their parents had voices against their current government.
You’re right Granny. We should just cut all ties to the only ally the U.S has in striving for peace
Eff the kids.
Ben Shockley
September 21st, 2012
10:51 am
Electing Democrats and raising taxes on the rich would have on the right track in no time.
the cat
September 21st, 2012
10:52 am
Fred-standing ovation from me!!!
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
10:52 am
Poppycock …
had to look up it’s origins….appears to be Dutch related but originated in the USA
rough translation…..”Doll Poop”
the cat
September 21st, 2012
10:53 am
Ben S.-so glad you have seen the light.
Ben Shockley
September 21st, 2012
10:53 am
There’s no problem in the entire known universe that can’t be solved quickly by raising taxes on the rich.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
10:53 am
williebeblind: You liberals are good at math or so you say. so why dont you count the minorities in Ga. find what percentage is on the government dole and see if 47% is actually a low number. Yes, this also has a great deal to do with low education standards and results. First you must be honest with yourself and then be honest with others.
That is so sad. I bet you thought you said something insightful or even smart. Fact is- you didn’t. Sad.
Aquagirl: Just think, in 2007 folks in the middle of nowhere would have been deprived of $800 fishing poles. We should be grateful for the smart business providers presence
Hiyah AQG!! You’re on a roll again today!!
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:54 am
He’s got time for all that but not for our closest ally in the Middle East.
Poppycock nonsense without proof.- keep up
How is it not true? Letterman, fundraisers, the Pimp with the Limp. Are you saying that these events haven’t happened or aren’t actually scheduled? And did you not see a few weeks ago where the administration were saying that they couldn’t fit Bibi into the president’s schedule? How is it poppycock?
Ben Shockley
September 21st, 2012
10:54 am
Raising taxes on the rich gives me a tingly sensation up my leg.
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
10:54 am
If the below words are from “The Daily Caller,” then I must disagree with founder Tucker Carlson’s remarks that The Daily Caller is not a partisan publication and that it is “not enforcing any kind of ideological orthodoxy on anyone.” See below and judge for yourself.
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“President Obama’s policies have been devastating to minority communities and to the most vulnerable in our society. America is suffering through the longest period of high unemployment since the Great Depression: Unemployment has been stuck over 8 percent for almost three-and-a-half years under Obama, after averaging only 5.3 percent under President George W. Bush.”
Thomas Heyward Jr
September 21st, 2012
10:54 am
I read somewhere where……………….the biggest Recipient of Stolen Federal funds and the Democratic stronghold of Detroit Michigan has………………
.
stopped reporting the un-employment rate.
.
They only report the employment rate……………..and it now stands at 11.5%.
.
lol
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
10:55 am
Ben,
please tell us how raising taxes would make a difference. The Federal government has not had a shortage of funds to spend, as evidenced by the ever increasing deficit.
Lower interest rates?
More food stamps?
More medicare? Medicaid?
Explain the connection to us.
Stonethrower
September 21st, 2012
10:55 am
What is going on with this “Obama is going to change the American flag on Nov 7″ my fellow employees who are Fox News followers are ranting and raving about.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:55 am
“There’s no problem in the entire known universe that can’t be solved quickly by raising taxes on the rich.”
Or a big new gubment program.
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
10:56 am
Harry Truman, Democrat president along with a Democrat controlled House and Senate helped estabblish the state of Israel. Since then, for more than 50 years every U.S. President including every Democrat along with Democrat controlled House and Senate have pledged to defend Israel against its enemies with our treasure and blood until the election of Barack Obama. With Obama in the White House spending more time playing golf, vacationing, appearing on late night TV than he does doing his job,we do not know what our policy is. You libs that prefer to hide your head in the sand and blame Republicans for the mess in the middle east might want to ask what Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton and umoteen congresses and senates were thinking.
SBinf
September 21st, 2012
10:56 am
Let’s face it, without Atlanta and it’s economic engine, the state of Georgia would be Mississippi….and yet, we’re stuck with the small town bumpkins telling the rest of us how to live.
TaxPayer
September 21st, 2012
10:57 am
Total Returns: 4,589,611
Returns With Income Tax Liability: 2,639,561
Returns With No Income Tax Liability: 1,950,050
Nonpayers: 42.5%
Georgia is home to nearly 2 million households that pay no income tax. This puts it near the top of the list of states where the 47 percent reside.
“Georgia is number two for returns with no taxable income,” Kasprak said. “It’s also fourth for returns receiving the refundable child tax credit.”
Now let’s hear it from the kayakers about the demographics of those people comprising that 42.5%.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:57 am
“Raising taxes on the rich gives me a tingly sensation up my leg.”
Could be worse. I hear it sexually arouses liberal politicians.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
10:57 am
The real “War on Women” was against those ladies that had the guts to come forward on Clinton starting with the time he was Governor. They were attacked unmercifully.
But ………….. if you accuse Herman Cain ………. well, you must be a saint.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
10:58 am
Ben, did you ever get back to us on those MARTA salaries. Senior Digits keeps asking.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
10:58 am
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
10:55 am
Ben,
please tell us how raising taxes would make a difference. The Federal government has not had a shortage of funds to spend, as evidenced by the ever increasing deficit.
Lower interest rates?
More food stamps?
More medicare? Medicaid?
Explain the connection to us.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Too funny, Dumber is talking to Dumb. He doesn’t see that Ben is trying to be sarcastically “funny.” We now have a right wing fanatical nut job trying to argue with an equally right wing fanatical nut job.
The rest of us were smart enough to just ignore Troll Shockley lol.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
10:59 am
Alraight all you NASCAR fans out there did you see where they are raising the speed limit on I-285 to 65 mph?
Now ………. since most officers allow 10 mph over the posted limit before they stop you that means instead of the 65 mph we now have, that the average will soon be 75 mph which means many will be doing 80 + with “relative” impunity.
Get ready !
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
11:00 am
Ivan
Show me where I said what you claim and you win a prize!
Mr Silly Pants.
Here’s the deal….
Radical right wing religious nutjobs – Christian, Muslim, Jewish – whatever flavor you name – are not the best choices for national leadership positions.
Thulsa
You can explain your point of view all day long, but it remains
truly bizarre.
Really.
the cat
September 21st, 2012
11:00 am
I think Ben S. must have had one of the Calista “specials” or someone is jacking his name. He is making too much sense.
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:01 am
Fred,
The only dumb folks are the ones who support raising taxes on the rich as the cure.
But thanks for playing.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 21st, 2012
11:01 am
zeke: “Throwing dollar after dollar at schools will do nothing to increase education or students performance on standard tests! The remedies are still not clearly defined, but, more and more government spending of confiscated money from taxpayers is not the answer”
zeke, how much longer do you have to chat before the 3rd period bell? Just let me know and I’ll try to tailor the length of my responses according to your availability.
Your high school geek assumption about taxes as “confiscation”, based on a crude Randianism and which sadly has now seeped well beyond the high school walls and infects large parts of our entire adult political discourse, must be exposed for what it is: a laughable misunderstanding of the nature of what taxes are and what the public is. To put it simply: confiscation always exists from the beginning and precedes any distribution of wealth through taxation and public spending.
Am I going too fast, zeke?
barking frog
September 21st, 2012
11:02 am
Ben Shockley
September 21st, 2012
10:53 am
There’s no problem in the
entire known universe that
can’t be solved quickly by
raising taxes on the rich.
……
I believe that should be
lowering taxes on the rich.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:02 am
the cat: Thank you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
11:02 am
They were attacked unmercifully.
You mean like the right attacked those who accused Cain? Or like Anita Hill being attacked? Yep, there were extreme failures in the past… and it seems that you continue to use them to excuse present acts.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:02 am
I wonder if this will cause more “hurt feelings” ?
Headline (ABC): “NYC Subway Ads Call for Defeat of Jihad ‘Savages’”
“In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man”
“SUPPORT ISRAEL – DEFEAT JIHAD”
http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-subway-ads-call-defeat-jihad-savages-161817278–abc-news-topstories.html
Joe Hussein Mama
September 21st, 2012
11:02 am
Doom — ” I would hardly call us Israel’s bee-yotch. Israel has long been our ally and long been the only stable and advanced democracy in the Middle East and a very loyal friend.”
I imagine that three billion dollars a year in foreign aid, plus plenty of discounts on military hardware and access to US intelligence assets buys a lot of loyalty.
“Unlike the Arabs they don’t kill our ambassadors, bomb and or attack our various embassies, and commit various other terrorist bombings against us including 9/11 and too many terrorist attacks to really go into. I’m disappointed that that even has to be explained to you.”
Ahem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Regnad Kcin
September 21st, 2012
11:02 am
” Israel has long been our ally and long been the only stable and advanced democracy in the Middle East and a very loyal friend. Unlike the Arabs they don’t kill our ambassadors, bomb and or attack our various embassies, and commit various other terrorist bombings against us including 9/11 and too many terrorist attacks to really go into”
Mr. Doom – you seem to have a VERY low standard for “friendship”. How would our lives be different if the US decided to care more about the US than about Israel?
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:04 am
“Georgia is home to nearly 2 million households that pay no income tax. This puts it near the top of the list of states where the 47 percent reside. ”
You need to go back and look that the policies of that democrat turned republican governor named Perdue that actively recruited retiring seniors to relocate here. That has played a part in those numbers.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:04 am
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:01 am
Fred,
The only dumb folks are the ones who support raising taxes on the rich as the cure.
But thanks for playing.
+++++++++++++++++
Stick with Shockley, he’s more to your “intellectual” level. Ya’ll can toss talk radio bumper sticker phases at each other all day, fooling yourselves that you have actually said something.
moonbat betty (I got the crabs at Bookman's blog)
September 21st, 2012
11:05 am
It will take at least 50 years to undo the 150 years of damage done to GA by dems.
Ivan
September 21st, 2012
11:05 am
“Show me where I said what you claim and you win a prize!
Mr Silly Pants.
Here’s the deal….
Radical right wing religious nutjobs – Christian, Muslim, Jewish – whatever flavor you name – are not the best choices for national leadership positions.”
aaaaaannnd deflection! Have a good day Mrs. G =)
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
11:05 am
Mary Elizabeth
You are saying “facts” are partisan! I usually take your opinions seriously.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:06 am
Mayor Reed is acting to stop ther gop cuts in cities.
Imagine if the leader of Israel insulted w and tried to get on our elections against him.
The cons would declare war on Israel.
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:06 am
Fred,
You said so much. Thanks again!
Robert Lee
September 21st, 2012
11:06 am
Thulsa, jsut because Obama did not meet with Bibi and kiss his ass, all the sudden he does not support Israel? Please provide a link to show us when this was announced?
Being supportive does not entail kissing ass.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:06 am
Ben S. must have had one of the Calista “specials”
heh.
Oh, and Scout?
Listen to this, please, before you shoot your yap about them Mooselumbz.
http://www.npr.org/2012/09/19/161168231/debunking-the-myth-of-the-muslim-tide
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:06 am
10 years wingnut leadership = higher unemployment
Oh well at least we can Go Fish… I’d stop by Wilder Outdoors and gear up, but they seem to have gone bankrupt… like wingnut’s morals…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
11:07 am
Mighty Righty
Every President INCLUDING President Obama “have pledged to defend Israel against its enemies”….
You may get your jockey pants in a wad over BiBi, but I’ll take thos guys opinion over yours any day of the week and twice on Sundays:
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Ehud Barak sings praises of Obama administration
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(CNN) – Israel’s Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak said the Obama White House has been the most supportive administration throughout the two countries’ diplomatic relations on matters of Israeli security, in an interview to air Monday on “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.”
Barak -also a former prime minister of Israel – said that though historically administrations from both political parties have supported the Jewish state President Obama’s support, security-wise, is unparalleled.
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“I think that from my point of view as defense minister they are extremely good, extremely deep and profound. I can see long years, um, administrations of both sides of political aisle deeply supporting the state of Israeli and I believe that reflects a profound feeling among the American people,” said Barak. “But I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing in regard to our security more than anything that I can remember in the past.”
Asked by Blitzer if the president has been more supportive than previous administrations’ Barak said, “In terms of the support for our security, the cooperation of our intelligence, the sharing of sorts in a very open way even when there are differences which are not simple sometimes, I’ve found their support for our defense very stable.”
Pressed if the Obama administration has been the most supportive ever, throughout history of U.S.-Israeli relations, Barak affirmed, saying that from his recollection of President Carter forward – “the defense relation between Israel and the United States are extremely stable and good.”
Barak continued, “It doesn’t mean that we agree on everything, it’s very well known that differences between our government and the American administration about peace process about other issues, but I believe that in regard to world turmoil, in regard to Hezbollah, in regard to what happens in Syria, in regard to Iran, we basically – basically agree on the diagnosis. We don’t agree on the prognosis on some of the issues.”
Barak’s comments come as presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney departs the country as part of a three-country tour that took him from London to Israel and now Poland as he campaigns for the presidency on foreign soil.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:08 am
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:06 am
Fred,
You said so much. Thanks again!
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I keep it short use little words and type slow when I’m talking to you so you can keep up. You are welcome.
moonbat betty: love your new modifier after your handle .
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:08 am
Speaking of Callista specials, Obama could provide one to Bibi live on pay-per-view and our local conservatives would probably just grouse about his technique.
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:08 am
Is Scout hiding under the bed because of them mooslums again???
I promise they won’t enact Sharia law Scout… you can come on out of there…
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
11:08 am
ATTENTION ATTENTION
Big Bookman Lie of the Day Award!
Since the Great Recession techically ended in June 2009, the national economy has added 2.8 million jobs; in Georgia, we’ve added a grand total of 60,000.
2 million at best. Don’t take my word for it:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_07022009.pdf
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_09072012.pdf
Table A: Summary Data
Employment Status, Row 4, Employed.
To say “technically ended” is entirely correct. Feels like a recovery to no one I know outside the Washington press corps.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:09 am
Perhaps rand is right. Israel gets the most foreign welfare so they should prove they are a good ally.
What has Israel done for America?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
11:09 am
Ivan
Actually…you lied and then deflected.
That is if facts matter.
Mr Silly Pants
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:10 am
” keep it short use little words and type slow when I’m talking to you so you can keep up. You are welcome.”
We have to go backwards t keep up with you Fred.
But thanks for trying.
Michael
September 21st, 2012
11:10 am
Spending on education is an investment, not redistribution. that lack of understanding is part of the problem in Georgia. It costs $10-15,000 per year to educate a student. It costs $100-150,000 per year to incarcerate a prisoner. The longer a student stays in school, the less likely he is to become a prisoner. Accordingly, the return on investment in education is extremely high. But, there has been a boom in building private prisons, and that reflects our values and poor choices in investments.
Last year the vegetable crop production was hurt by lack of labor. When the housing market rebounds, construction in Georgia will be hurt by lack of the same labor. Many of the folks who picked the vegetables and built the houses are sitting in the private prisons. Again, poor investment decisions.
Walmart depends on the state of Georgia to provide health insurance for many of its employees. Gerogia’s attitude might give us a problem even with Walmart. Also, the employees at the Georgia ports can choose to live in SC or Georgia. Which of these states is capable of making a smart decision for those potential employees?
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
The problem with Georgia’s economy is that it was overbuilt and full of builders and construction companies that did work all over the country. Since that segment of the economy was hardest hit, Georgia is lucky that it hasn’t suffered more than it has.
What we don’t need is a Democrat in charge.
Political Mongrel
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
The question is: action by whom? Hopefully not by Georgia’s thumb-fingered, ham-handed, butt-ignorant, delusional legislature. Their decades-long record of fouling up much of what they touch is terrifying.
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
“Now ………. since most officers allow 10 mph over the posted limit before they stop you that means instead of the 65 mph we now have, that the average will soon be 75 mph which means many will be doing 80 + with “relative” impunity.”
You don’t drive on the perimeter very much do you? You definitely need to stay away from GA 400 then…
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
from the linkee @ 11.06:
On whether Muslims regard Islam as a spiritual matter or as an ideology
“We can measure this both by looking at what they say and looking at what they do. Because if members of a religious minority were really believing this … believing that religion is a guiding ideology that should control their actions, then they would be doing things — they would be ignoring the laws, they would be going to the mosque very often. …
“What we find is the level of religiosity, of religious observance among Muslims when they come to the West, tends to fall fairly quickly to approximately the level of religious observance of the people around them. So when Muslims come to France from the Arab countries of North Africa, they tend to become not very religiously observant. About a fifth of them become outright atheist, which is similar to the rate of French Christians, and only about maybe 5 percent of them attend a mosque regularly. When they move to the United States, they become about as religious as American Christians are, which is fairly religious.
“So, yeah, about 47 percent of American Muslims will say, ‘I think of myself as Muslim first and American second,’ but that’s almost exactly the same rate that non-Muslim Americans say, that American Christians say. Just shy of half of American Christians will say, ‘I think of myself as Christian first, and American second.’ So they tend to be loyal to their faith at about the same rate as Christians do in whatever country they arrive in.”
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
etalife
September 21st, 2012
11:09 am
Perhaps rand is right. Israel gets the most foreign welfare so they should prove they are a good ally.
What has Israel done for America?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Spied on us repeatedly. Here is one example……
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
n
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
Over the past decade Georgia has become a totally corrupt regime.
It is a banana republic.
There are practically no honest people left in the leadership of this state.
Ethics are laughed at. Public education has been destroyed.
The only state in the U.S. to prohibit access to state archives and history.
They want the electorate to be malleable simpletons.
Those who are not able read history are doomed to repeat it.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
11:11 am
“They ignore Sonny’s crooked land deals.”
Fred,
I’ve heard this before and I’ve looked but I can’t seem to find anything where Deal was convicted of running crooked land deals. I did find something insinuating as much but since it was from a blogger called the last liberal gwinnettian so obviously it had no credibility. Anything you could find detailing a conviction would be greatly appreciated.
“They ignore Nathan’s stealing and payoffs.”
I googled nathan deal stealing and payoffs and couldn’t find anything on this either. If you have something showing where he was either arrested or convicted of stealing and making payoffs then it would be greatly appreciated.
I would imagine that just as you hold the cons to standards of backing up what they say about liberal politicians that we can expect you to back up your claims of Deal stealing and making payoffs with credible links detailing his arrests or convictions for stealing and bribery.
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
11:13 am
getalife,
Since someone took away your boogeymen white racists, you’re using Ayn Rand now?
I think that’s hilarious.
Good luck to you!
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:13 am
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:10 am
” keep it short use little words and type slow when I’m talking to you so you can keep up. You are welcome.”
We have to go backwards t keep up with you Fred.
But thanks for trying.
+++++++++++++++++++++
LOl what are you, like 7? I know you are what am I? What is your next repsonse going to be? “My dad can beat up your dad?”
You are so typical of today’s Republican.
GT
September 21st, 2012
11:13 am
Wonder why we have states in the first place?
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:14 am
“When the housing market rebounds, construction in Georgia will be hurt by lack of the same labor.”
We did just fine through the building booms of the 80’s and 90’s without the Mexicans. Americans may not want to pick Tomatoes but they can and will build some houses and offices…
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:14 am
embarrassment.
The Dem in charge of Atlanta is leading on cuts to cities.
Where is deal on cuts to his State?
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
11:15 am
stands for decibels,
The difference is that our Holy Bible says to make disciples of all the nations….
…but it doesn’t require us to enslave them if they don’t come along.
Subtle but important difference there.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:16 am
I still remember the American killed when Israel stormed the ship.
I take that personally.
I am my country first.
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:16 am
“I would imagine that just as you hold the cons to standards of backing up what they say about liberal politicians that we can expect you to back up your claims of Deal stealing and making payoffs with credible links detailing his arrests or convictions for stealing and bribery.”
Give us the name of the last Democratic Governor of GA who resigned from congress while the subject of an ethics investigation who then turned around and declared bankruptcy and defaulted on 2 million dollars in loans. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
11:17 am
And did you not see a few weeks ago where the administration were saying that they couldn’t fit Bibi into the president’s schedule?
Apparently Doom, you fail to comprehend a messsage being sent rather than an actual scheduling issue. But continue in your poppycock nonsense claims.
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
11:18 am
Fred,
You seem to be really projecting this morning.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
11:18 am
Joe Mama,
We also give aid to plenty of other countries in the Middle East including several of the Arab states so you’re point is without merit. Apparently it doesn’t buy any loyalty or friendship. At least with the Israelis we are getting something for our money.
I think you need to read your own link on the USS Liberty. It was attacked in the middle of the 6 day war and was a mistake. Big difference between a mistake as in friendly fire and intentional terrorist attacks. I’m surprised you seem to equate that with terrorist attacks.
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:18 am
Why should we kiss Israel’s a$$? Other than for votes and campaign contributions.
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
11:19 am
I know this has been around but it bears repeating to remind the mentally challenged that the economic policies of this administration are insane and Obamacare is just flat out nuts!
Quote by Ben Stein:
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured… but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.”
Now add this, “Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens
will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance
because they are citizens.”
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:19 am
embarrasment,
I don’t fiction like rand.
The fiction from you cons on the blogs is enough.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:20 am
I don’t think our tax money should go to Israel.
I think Germany should pay them not us.
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
11:21 am
Michael…GA is 7th Nationally in quality of education
Common Sense
September 21st, 2012
11:21 am
Here’s how Obama explains his broken promises….
Today, Ramos repeatedly pressed Obama to acknowledge he had not kept that promise. “I don’t want to get lost in translation,” Ramos said in Spanish. Today’s forum was conducted in Spanish and the questions translated for the president. “You promised… And a promise is a promise. And with all due respect, you didn’t keep that promise.”
“I am happy to take responsibility for the fact that we didn’t get it done,” Obama said. “But I did not make a promise that I would get everything done a hundred percent when I was elected as president. What I promised was that I would work every single day as hard as I can to make sure that everybody in the country, regardless of who they are, what they look like, where they come from, that they would have a fair shot at the American dream. And that promise I kept.”
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-blames-gop-inability-pass-immigration-reform-215329106–abc-news-politics.html
SwamiDave
September 21st, 2012
11:22 am
sfd
“southpaw, it (Medicaid expansion)lowers costs for startups and such. It makes it easier to attract / retain businesses.”
So cost-shifting medical expenses onto GA taxpayers…..and businesses will make it easier to attract & retain those businesses.
Here’s your sign!
Growth comes from the exercise of freedom and opportunity. They work every time they are tried; they work when you do.
-SD
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
11:22 am
Thulsa
“You can explain your point of view all day long, but it remains
truly bizarre.
Really.”
Granny godzilla,
If you think that U.S. support for Israel is bizarre then so be it. There’s really nothing more to say.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:23 am
Jue Hussein Mama:
I’m glad you brought up the USS Liberty. I have a good personal friend who was an officer on board that day and was wounded.
The bottom line to take away from that incident is the “NEVER AGAIN” mindset of Israel.
They will do ANYTHING to ensure their survival.
Ivan
September 21st, 2012
11:24 am
“Ivan
Actually…you lied and then deflected.
That is if facts matter.
Mr Silly Pants”
More 2nd grade name calling. So cute. I’m sure those kids in the mass graves would’ve been in about the same grade.
But the Republicans just want to be Isreal’s beeyotch……not trying to help those matters at all.
The kids thanks you, Mrs G.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:24 am
but it doesn’t require us to enslave them if they don’t come along
“Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)”
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:24 am
common sense,
He could pass immigration reform in his second term like he did the ACA.
It is possible.
Not possible with the gop and they know that fact.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
September 21st, 2012
11:24 am
Just say NO to Mitt Romney!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:25 am
Rightwing Troll :
My point was it will get worse …………………..
)
Mighty Righty
September 21st, 2012
11:26 am
I can think of a Democrat Senator from Georgia who we voters threw out of office because he confessed he had a “magic coat” that he would hang up and some how money would appear in its pockets. As for allegations about a Republican governor, I don’t think any of those rumors were ever proven.
Regnad Kcin
September 21st, 2012
11:26 am
“Growth comes from the exercise of freedom and opportunity.”
With all due respect – that sentence has no content. It’s not a ploicy, it’s a bumper sticker. Could you give us a fuller explanation of what you are trying to say? Thanks.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:27 am
So cost-shifting medical expenses onto GA taxpayers
not even close to what’s in the PPACA.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:29 am
getalife:
1) More than one American was killed.The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States
“The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 170 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.”
2) They never “stormed” the ship.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
11:29 am
“Apparently Doom, you fail to comprehend a messsage being sent rather than an actual scheduling issue. But continue in your poppycock nonsense claims.”
keep up,
My comprehension is just fine. The Israeli’s are saying that the Obama administration was using the excuse of scheduling as a reason to avoid Netanyahu. And yeah. I get that Obama is being petty and “sending a message” as you say. The fact that they are using a scheduling excuse just furthers his pettiness. Just more “poppycock” and pettiness from the thin skinned one.
“CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, citing Israeli sources, reported that the Israelis were told Obama’s schedule would not permit a meeting even though Israel offered to have Netanyahu travel to Washington.
Obama and Netanyahu are both due to address the United Nations in New York in late September but not at the same time.”
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:29 am
Lets see, cons bown down for the wealthy, corporations, Israel and the military industrial complex.
You cons look funny bowed down like that.
Get up off your knees, stand up straight and fight for yourself not them silly.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
11:30 am
First and foremost, Georgia, mainly Atlanta have got to move away from policies of anything black for black sake and move toward policies that will benefit ALL Georgians!
Honestly, your response makes me realize why Georgia is last in education.
First, the cons holler about Obama’s “redistribution of wealth” comments, THEN you advocate for the exact same thing! The only difference is that you wish to take all of ATLANTA’s “wealth” and redistribute it to the rest of georgia. Classic!!
Lord Help Us
September 21st, 2012
11:30 am
‘They will do ANYTHING to ensure their survival.’
Just curious. Do you fault the Palestinians for taking a similar stance?
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:30 am
“Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens
will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance
because they are citizens.”
Which is a mite bit better than how it is now, where they will recieve free services paid for only by those of us who choose to buy insurance and pay taxes.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:31 am
scout,
Wrong one scout.
Verbal Kint
September 21st, 2012
11:32 am
For the folks with their head buried in the sand (which is most of the crew commenting on this blog), countdown starts Sunday. Enjoy!:
100 Days Until Taxmageddon
Sunday will mark the start of the 100-day countdown to “Taxmageddon” – the date the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2013:
First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief
In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for small business owners, families, and investors (later re-upped by President Obama and Democrat Congress in 2010). The following tax hikes will occur on January 1, 2013:
Personal income tax rates will rise on January 1, 2013. The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which the majority of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:
-The 10% bracket rises to a new and expanded 15%
-The 25% bracket rises to 28%
-The 28% bracket rises to 31%
-The 33% bracket rises to 36%
-The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%
Higher taxes on marriage and family coming on January 1, 2013. The “marriage penalty” (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of taxable income. The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.
Middle Class Death Tax returns on January 1, 2013. The death tax is currently 35% with an exemption of $5 million ($10 million for married couples). For those dying on or after January 1 2013, there is a 55 percent top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones.
Higher tax rates on savers and investors on January 1, 2013. The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 23.8 percent in 2013. The top dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 43.4 percent in 2013. This is because of scheduled rate hikes plus Obamacare’s investment surtax.
Second Wave: Obamacare Tax Hikes
There are twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Some have already gone into effect (the tanning tax, the medicine cabinet tax, the HSA withdrawal tax, W-2 health insurance reporting, and the “economic substance doctrine”). Several more will go into effect on January 1, 2013. They include:
The Obamacare Medical Device Tax begins to be assessed on January 1, 2013. Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax on gross sales – even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. Exempts items retailing for <$100.
The Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike takes effect on January 1, 2013. The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Starting in 2013, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate.
The Obamacare “Special Needs Kids Tax” comes online on January 1, 2013. Imposes a cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare cap harms these families.
The Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deductions goes into force on January 1, 2013. Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.
Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes
When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2013, they’ll be in for a nasty surprise—the AMT won’t be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. These tax increases will be in force for BOTH 2012 and 2013. The major items include:
The AMT will ensnare over 31 million families, up from 4 million last year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress’ failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families—rising from 4 million last year to 31 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.
Full business expensing will disappear. In 2011, businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. Starting on 2013 tax returns, all of it will have to be “depreciated” (slowly deducted over many years).
Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the “research and experimentation tax credit,” but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.
Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.
Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual “required minimum distribution.” This ability will no longer be there.
Posted by Ryan Ellis on Friday, September 21, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
Read more: http://atr.org/days-taxmageddon-a7203#ixzz277PrGSOb
GT
September 21st, 2012
11:32 am
Rightwing Troll that is the reason the are out of work that is the only thing they can do. “Mexicans” have more versatility than these local guys are want to work more.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:32 am
The only difference is that you wish to take all of ATLANTA’s “wealth” and redistribute it to the rest of georgia.
way-ell, Debbie, they ain’t GOT no wealth, see, cuz they’s colored!
/winger
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:33 am
verbal,
Where is your party on those cuts?
Where is the gop leadership?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:33 am
They BOTH suck:
Another “LIAR” I guess ……………….. “Show me the directive ! Show me the directive ! I’m betting this one was all VERBAL ………… just like some I received in Nam. But then you have never “been there”.
Headline (ABC): “Soldier’s E-mail Changes House Defense Chair’s Position on Afghanistan”
“Army Staff Sgt. Matthew Sitton knew there was the threat of casualties when he deployed to Afghanistan for his third tour of duty, but he said he was “totally on board with sacrifice for [his] country.”
What he didn’t agree with, though, was his chain of command, who mandated Sitton’s 25-man platoon to take twice-daily patrols through fields littered with explosive devices. The platoon was averaging an amputee a day, Sitton said, and since the patrols didn’t have an end goal, he didn’t see the point of risking such extreme danger.
Sitton was so concerned with his platoon’s safety and morale that in June, he wrote a measured letter to Rep. C.W. Bill Young, R-Fla., who chairs the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.
“I feel myself and my soldiers are being put into unnecessary positions where harm and danger are imminent,” Sitton wrote in an e-mail. ”There is no endstate or purpose for the patrols given to us from our higher chain of command, only that we will be out for a certain time standard.”
“We are walking around aimlessly through grape rows and compounds that are littered with explosives,” he wrote.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/soldiers-e-mail-changes-house-defense-chairs-position-on-afghanistan/
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:34 am
Thulsa: I know thta was a typo and you meant the Sonny Perdue land deal. I had no problems with google finding it. Here take your choice: http://tinyurl.com/cbfh824
As to Nathan Deal? Yeah you are right he DIDN’T resign his seat in Congress the DAY BEFORE the ethics committee was going to bring him up on charges. Oh wait, he DID. http://tinyurl.com/cw9n54g
I’d give you a link to his wonderful loans and such but I can only post 2 links without tripping the auto snagger Doomy.
Being a Republican didn’t USED to mean that you had to lie and cover up for your crooked ass leaders. As a matter of fact it used to mean the opposite. Once upon a time being a Republican meant you actually stood for honor and integrity. Those times seem to be long past. I’m beginning to find I view folks who say they are Republicans with the same mistrust as I view someone who says they are a Baptist or a Frenchman. That saddens me.
If you have any honor and integrity then it’s time you stood up for it banded together with some like minded folks and took your damn party back. Bruno comes to mind as a partner for you. Kick the asshats like Limbaugh and crowd OUT, dismantle their lying propaganda machine and restore the integrity of the party. You would be surprised at how many folks would “come back.” Get rid of the nutcases like Moosa, and Mighty Righty and such. Let them sit on the fringes where they belong instead of giving them the reins. There is still time, but not much of it. Get back to sound fiscal policies not ignorant, cut all taxes to rich folks and bow down to corporations. People like me WANT to have a sane Republican party back. Hell,I’ll bet you even Jam wants a sane Republican party back over this crazy as hell version that has broken out………
Welcome to the Occupation
September 21st, 2012
11:34 am
Thulsa Doom: “Israel has long been our ally and long been the only stable and advanced democracy in the Middle East and a very loyal friend. Unlike the Arabs they don’t kill our ambassadors, bomb and or attack our various embassies, and commit various other terrorist bombings against us….”
Ever heard of the US Liberty incident, Thulsa?
I think Thulsa needs a little history lesson before he makes categorical assertions about specific groups being angelic and others devilish! Those kinds of statements are HARRDDD to justify!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:34 am
“As for allegations about a Republican governor, I don’t think any of those rumors were ever proven.”
If it quacks like a duck… and also you just have to wonder about someone who constantly finds themselves in the middle of ethical controversy… not wingnuts though… they say “oh hell yeah, give me some more of that”…
Welcome to the Occupation
September 21st, 2012
11:35 am
That should have been USS Liberty, of course.
Earnestly
September 21st, 2012
11:35 am
I can tell you that neither Perdue nor Deal have been benign in their leadership. Before there was a financial crisis, Perdue started the assault on public education which Deal and the legislature have actively, enthusiastically, you might say hysterically continued. That assault has seen 4 billion dollars cut from state education budgets in a decade. This in a state that has always been near the bottom of both education spending and achievement. One result has been “experts” who wouldn’t know a charter school from a pig farm extolling the virtues of charter schools and voucher systems, neither of which are viable for the majority of Georgia’s students. The objective seems to be squeeze school systems until they fail, then say “I told you so”. I guess our hapless leaders feel that if they keep their electorate uneducated, they’ll be more free to concentrate on their real profession; making money for themselves and their friends.
St Simons - (ab)original Georgian
September 21st, 2012
11:35 am
hell yes, shuck the corn, fred.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:36 am
Lord Help Us:
Yes. Just as I fault Islamic Radicals for trying to “survive” mean old America.
Apples and oranges.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
Welcome to the Occupation:
Please see my 11:23
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
The objective seems to be squeeze school systems until they fail, then say “I told you so”.
SEEMS to be?
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
Guess you are still searching for that DOD “directive”, huh?
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
Mighty Righty,
“Mary Elizabeth
You are saying ‘facts’ are partisan! I usually take your opinions seriously.”
—————————————————–
I am saying that the following words from “The Daily Caller” are not factual, but are, instead, opinion and that the word, “devastating,” is particularly inflammatory by design (and that that choice of word reflects the intense ideological point-of-view of the founders of that publication:
“President Obama’s policies have been devastating. . .”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
And yeah. I get that Obama is being petty and “sending a message” as you say. The fact that they are using a scheduling excuse just furthers his pettiness
Ahh, so now you are also an expert in foreign affairs and can identify “pettiness” in these matters. Rather pompous of you.
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
10:17 am
We’re going on 40 years of negotiation. Some influence.
Listening to Netanyahu is like listening to Fox News you already know what’s coming so why bother tuning in. For years it was Arafat is the reason there is no peace. Well Arafat’s been dead for 8 years and things have still not budged.
What’s that definition of insanity?
Common Sense
September 21st, 2012
11:37 am
“Not possible with the gop and they know that fact.”
Have you noticed that it is always someone else’s fault?
So if BHO does not get control of the Senate and the House, the excuse remains the same.
What changes by electing Obama a second term?
And why is the deteriorating economic picture NOT a concern? Read the BLS report Bookman references.
If you think Georgia is the only state with issues, think again.
Rightwing Troll
September 21st, 2012
11:38 am
“People like me WANT to have a sane Republican party back. Hell,I’ll bet you even Jam wants a sane Republican party back over this crazy as hell version that has broken out………”
They don’t want us back because we refuse to be fanatical and wish to live and let live…
USMC
September 21st, 2012
11:38 am
“Is America’s economic decline cause for action?”
Yes!
Vote for Mittens in 2012!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
11:39 am
They want the electorate to be malleable simpletons
They’ve “won”!
They will do ANYTHING to ensure their survival.
That’s the problem……
Lord Help Us
September 21st, 2012
11:39 am
‘Yes. Just as I fault Islamic Radicals for trying to “survive” mean old America.
Apples and oranges.’
Both groups will do (as you said, ‘ANYTHING to ensure their survival’). Why does your definition of ‘ANYTHING’ differ? Are you saying Israelis are not radical, but Palestinians are?
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:39 am
Scout
Your article doesn’t say a damn thing about a “directive” regarding not being able to carry ammunition.
But keep swinging.
Strikes and foul tips are not home runs.
Earnestly
September 21st, 2012
11:40 am
Amen Fred! There was a time long ago when the term republican was not synonymous with lying scumbag corporate shill.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:41 am
Seniors,
You are the 47 % Mitt hates and the gop will steal your programs you paid for all your lives.
Vote out the gop congress.
Four more years.
Thanks.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:42 am
Scout
If you do not like Obama and want to cry about him daily, that is your right to do so.
But unsubstantiated inferences and rhetoric makes you look foolish.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:42 am
Barack “Hussein” & Joseph “Robinette” Biden
vs.
Willard “Mitt” Romney & Paul “Davis” Ryan
Hummmmm ………………
Earnestly
September 21st, 2012
11:42 am
In partisan fairness, there was also a time when the term democrat was not synonymous with weak kneed sissy corporate shill.
Matti
September 21st, 2012
11:43 am
JamVet @ 10:50,
Did you see where Limpbaugh was blaming “feminazis” for shrinkage yesterday?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/20/limbaugh-penises-now-10-percent-smaller-and-shrinking-because-of-feminazis/
Bless his lil’ ol’ heart. He might just need another viag-fueled “boys only” trip to the Dominican Republic to cure that!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:44 am
BOTH:
Verbal will get you killed as quick as a directive ………….. but then you’ve never been there so you wouldn’t know.
“Some walk the walk and some talk the talk”
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
11:44 am
DDR – Honestly, your response makes me realize why Georgia is last in education
except GA is No.7
Joe Hussein Mama
September 21st, 2012
11:46 am
Doom — “Joe Mama,
“We also give aid to plenty of other countries in the Middle East including several of the Arab states so you’re point is without merit.”
Rejected. Find me another Middle Eastern country that gets $3+ billion in annual aid and access to US intelligence assets. There’s one, but I don’t think you’ll be happy when you figure out which one it is.
“Apparently it doesn’t buy any loyalty or friendship.”
Indeed. The Israeli government has been quite confrontational in the past with our Presidents and with Congress over the amount of aid they receive. You’d think they’d show some appreciation.
“At least with the Israelis we are getting something for our money.”
Like what? Specifics, please.
“I think you need to read your own link on the USS Liberty. It was attacked in the middle of the 6 day war and was a mistake.”
I think you need to read it in the first place, because there are still-living Liberty crewmembers who don’t believe that for a moment.
“Big difference between a mistake as in friendly fire and intentional terrorist attacks. I’m surprised you seem to equate that with terrorist attacks.”
As I said, you need to educate yourself on the circumstances and investigation of the attack, because there are still HUGE holes in the Israeli story.
And just in case you weren’t aware of it, the Israelis had to be threatened to stay out of Desert Storm. The Israelis demanded to be part of the attacking force, but we refused, citing the need to retain the Arab allies, intel and goodwill we had in that fight. When the Israelis threatened to send their aircraft to join in any fight they observed in Iraq, they were told that if any of their air assets entered an active combat zone without the proper IFF squawk code, they’d be shot down as suspected hostiles.
The Israelis then stood down.
Yeah, that’s some real help and support there.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:47 am
Scout
blah, blah, blah
You posted an article last night from your birther based website. DDR and I both picked up on the “directive” part which you used to further your deranged narrative.
You are made because you can’t prove it. Just because you are brainwashed with the bs on WND, don’t put that off on others.
Ben-Jarius
September 21st, 2012
11:47 am
In his radio show yesterday Clark Howard talked about the thousands of jobs in Georgia that are unfilled because the workforce lacks the necessary skills and training. That should be a serious wake up call. We need to move past the political blame game (Jay) and actually do something, like requiring high schools to teach subjects that will actually help the kids get a job once they graduate.
the cat
September 21st, 2012
11:48 am
Fred-another standing O! off to take advil for knees!!!
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:49 am
mad
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:49 am
“Some walk the walk ……….. some talk the talk”
“Kept by better men than yourself”
alittlecommonsense
September 21st, 2012
11:49 am
The point of this blog is Jay saying basically ” Georgia is a red state. Georgia is doing bad. Therefore Georgia is doing bad because it is a red state.” Not very good logic huh?
How about we look at not just Georgia, but red states vs blue states overall? Wouldn’t that give a clearer picture of whether a state is better off as red or blue? 50 points of data instead of one?
http://news.investors.com/050812-610481-red-states-beat-blue-on-job-wage-gains.aspx?p=full
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:49 am
willingly brainwashed, I might add
What is the latest on the birther front, Scout?
Joe Hussein Mama
September 21st, 2012
11:50 am
0311 — “I’m glad you brought up the USS Liberty. I have a good personal friend who was an officer on board that day and was wounded. The bottom line to take away from that incident is the “NEVER AGAIN” mindset of Israel. They will do ANYTHING to ensure their survival.”
I agree; it does seem that the Israelis can be quite single-minded in pursuit of that goal, but there are still questions about the incident; at least one investigator believes that the Israelis deliberately fired on the ship in order to keep it from inadvertently revealing Israeli troop dispositions and movement along the Egyptian border.
I hope your friend recovered fully.
getalife
September 21st, 2012
11:51 am
“For the fact is that the modern Republican Party just doesn’t have much respect for people who work for other people, no matter how faithfully and well they do their jobs. All the party’s affection is reserved for “job creators,” a k a employers and investors. Leading figures in the party find it hard even to pretend to have any regard for ordinary working families — who, it goes without saying, make up the vast majority of Americans. ” Krugman.
The gop hate you cons.
Vote them out.
Man up.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
11:53 am
TBS: Guess you are still searching for that DOD “directive”, huh?
HA!!! Too funny!!
Fred: Being a Republican didn’t USED to mean that you had to lie and cover up for your crooked ass leaders. As a matter of fact it used to mean the opposite. Once upon a time being a Republican meant you actually stood for honor and integrity. Those times seem to be long past. I’m beginning to find I view folks who say they are Republicans with the same mistrust as I view someone who says they are a Baptist or a Frenchman. That saddens me.
You tell ‘em Fred! I posted a few days back that the last good republican was Eisenhower, and a few people said “Oh No! There are still some good republicans!” But I say, “Where are they?”
Did these same good republicans have to sign a “purity pledge” before they could get a dime from the republican party? Did they have to fall in lock step with the rank and file or be ostracized if they weren’t?
Did they have the balls to stand up and say, “THIS AIN’T RIGHT!!” when all of these scurrilous “voter laws” have suddenly popped up since the 08 election? What about all the legislature directly targeted at women and their right to choose? Equal pay for women – any good republican had anyythng to say to that? Or how many republicans voted NO to the “Give GI Joe a JOb” bill; did any of their rank and file castigate them for that? Nope.
If some would just stand up for what’s right, it’ll make a big difference. Some of the ideals of republicans are found in some democrat principles and vice versa — but the fringes have silenced the voice of reason and have become militant and unhinged!
It’s time for a viable third party — truth be told there are more “middle of the roaders” than there are true right or left people. it’s just that now in this time, we only have a choice between the devil and the devils brother Bubba. What choice is that?
yuzeyurbrane
September 21st, 2012
11:53 am
Ben @ 9:42–I agree with what you say but surely you are not arguing that Georgia has reached the point where its education spending has no impact?
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
11:54 am
Erwin’s cat
September 21st, 2012
11:44 am
DDR – Honestly, your response makes me realize why Georgia is last in education
except GA is No.7
++++++++++++++++++
Can you post a link to that effect please? If you already did I missed it.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:54 am
DDR
He is trying
Bless his heart……………..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
11:56 am
Kept by better men than yourself
Senior Digits, who is your pimp that you keep referring to as keeping you. We can send help.
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
11:57 am
Mighty Righty and readers,
Moreover, besides choosing to use the inflammatory word, “devastating,” the “facts” that The Daily Caller does mention (that I had earlier posted) fail to address or to acknowledge the long-standing effects that the Great Recession’s crash have had upon unemployment rates in our nation. To leave out that vital “fact” in presenting a “factual” analysis speaks, again, of the highly partisan and ideological agenda of “The Daily Caller.”
And, I would hope that polling firms would not be in the business of influencing elections toward particular ideological beliefs.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:58 am
Scout
Why did that gentlemen leave the military?
Did it have anything to do with is unwillingness to follow the rules and regulations he signed up to adhere to?
TN_Realist
September 21st, 2012
11:59 am
@ Granny, your 11:07 was on point! Slam Dunk! I recokon Scout just passed over it
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
11:59 am
Joe Hussein Mama:
“I agree; it does seem that the Israelis can be quite single-minded in pursuit of that goal, but there are still questions about the incident; at least one investigator believes that the Israelis deliberately fired on the ship in order to keep it from inadvertently revealing Israeli troop dispositions and movement along the Egyptian border.”
You should hear him tell what happened. They didn’t just “fire” on the USS Liberty …….. they straffed it, napalmed it and torpedoed it …………. during attacks covering about two hours. When life boats were lowered, Israeli patrol boats sank them.
You are absolutely correct in your assessment above and the reason is we (the U.S.) would have stopped their planned surprise attack which was their only chance to win. Therefore, they made the decision to try to sink the ship with all hands lost.
To this day, the U.S. Congress has not held full hearings on the matter. The USS Liberty crew meets annually and they are very bitter ……… obviously.
My friend did fine and served with me during my career with “my federal agency”.
May I recommend this book written by the ship’s officers:
http://www.amazon.com/Assault-Liberty-James-Ennes-Jr/dp/0972311602
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
11:59 am
Keep
That was funny.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:00 pm
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
11:57 am
+++++++++++++++++++++++
You are trying to reason with unreasonable people ME. It doesn’t work. So they will attack you.
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
12:00 pm
Fred…I link it on page 2
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2012/jan/13/georgia-ranks-no-7-nation-new-education-report/
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
12:00 pm
Correction: facts “do mention,” not “does mention”
Matti
September 21st, 2012
12:00 pm
Erwin’s cat wants us all to know he can read, and read Maureen Downey’s column about Georgia earning 7th place in a “quality counts” report issued by the onlibne publication Education Week. Downey’s article does not mention graduation rates, or the fact that students who drop out ususally do not take SATs and those standardized tests in their Senior year that say how well they’ve learned. But hey, if you want to pick a cherry, you can always find a cherry to pick. Somebody please give Erwin’s cat the little gold star he’s earned. Thank you!
Joe Hussein Mama
September 21st, 2012
12:02 pm
0311 — “You should hear him tell what happened. They didn’t just “fire” on the USS Liberty …….. they straffed it, napalmed it and torpedoed it …………. during attacks covering about two hours. When life boats were lowered, Israeli patrol boats sank them.”
Thanks for the amplification, 0311.
So, Doom, you hearing this?
You can take your ‘read your own link” bullspit and stuff it where the sun don’t shine, son. Get yourself up to speed before you shoot your mouth off about something you’re totally ignorant of.
Tool.
Aquagirl
September 21st, 2012
12:02 pm
The Israelis claim their land because their God gave it to them a couple thousand years ago. Let God send ‘em jet fighters and piles of money. At the very least God could influence some of our young tough talkers to emigrate and defend them,instead of demanding other people’s tax dollars be redistributed while they blog their undying defense of Israel.
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
12:02 pm
Fred,
The R party is not my party, I’m Libertarian but am forced to vote R in some circumstances. I did read a bit on Deal and saw that he did resign while under ethics scrutiny. Now he did that supposedly to begin his run for gov and I suspect just to get away from it. But if we go by that standard there are lots of Congressman and plenty from the Dem side like Rangel who’ve been investigated for ethics allegations.
Looks to me like he has some questionable dealings but no arrests, no convictions, just questionable business arrangements but nothing that can be proven. I just think that if you’re going to make outright allegations of stealing and bribery that you should be able to back it up with a link. And I know you try to be non partisan Fred but it seems of late that you reserve all your criticism for Rs and R pols and none for the Ds. Plenty of corruption, bumper sticker sloganeering, and brain washed folks on the left.
Anyway, I gotta run here in a minute but I will hold con pols feet to the fire when they mess up.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:03 pm
BOTH:
“Why did that gentlemen leave the military?
Did it have anything to do with is unwillingness to follow the rules and regulations he signed up to adhere to?”
Probably for the same reason I didn’t re-up in the Marines. I saw too many good men die for bad reasons including inane orders and tactics eminating from the Commander in Chief (Johnson used to actually pick inidividual targets) on down.
Nothing has changed:
For example ……….. Fallujah.
Do you know the Marines had to take that city THREE times? How many extra Marine lives did that cost. All because of inane policies.
It’s happening right now over there in the same old ways.
St Simons - (ab)original Georgian
September 21st, 2012
12:03 pm
and how did a thread about Georgia’s economic trainwreck get hijacked
into the latest troll droppings from the heritage foundation?
does ajc get a commision for leaving that crap up in the comments?
if they don’t, they should…..
trickle-down-on-bubba, heheheh
Steve Shamrock
September 21st, 2012
12:04 pm
100 Days Until Taxmageddon
Sunday will mark the start of the 100-day countdown to “Taxmageddon” – the date the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2013:
First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief
In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for small business owners, families, and investors (later re-upped by President Obama and Democrat Congress in 2010). The following tax hikes will occur on January 1, 2013:
Personal income tax rates will rise on January 1, 2013. The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which the majority of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:
-The 10% bracket rises to a new and expanded 15%
-The 25% bracket rises to 28%
-The 28% bracket rises to 31%
-The 33% bracket rises to 36%
-The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%
Higher taxes on marriage and family coming on January 1, 2013. The “marriage penalty” (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of taxable income. The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.
Middle Class Death Tax returns on January 1, 2013. The death tax is currently 35% with an exemption of $5 million ($10 million for married couples). For those dying on or after January 1 2013, there is a 55 percent top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones.
Higher tax rates on savers and investors on January 1, 2013. The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 23.8 percent in 2013. The top dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 43.4 percent in 2013. This is because of scheduled rate hikes plus Obamacare’s investment surtax.
Second Wave: Obamacare Tax Hikes
There are twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Some have already gone into effect (the tanning tax, the medicine cabinet tax, the HSA withdrawal tax, W-2 health insurance reporting, and the “economic substance doctrine”). Several more will go into effect on January 1, 2013. They include:
The Obamacare Medical Device Tax begins to be assessed on January 1, 2013. Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax on gross sales – even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. Exempts items retailing for <$100.
The Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike takes effect on January 1, 2013. The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Starting in 2013, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate.
The Obamacare “Special Needs Kids Tax” comes online on January 1, 2013. Imposes a cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare cap harms these families.
The Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deductions goes into force on January 1, 2013. Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.
Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes
When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2013, they’ll be in for a nasty surprise—the AMT won’t be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. These tax increases will be in force for BOTH 2012 and 2013. The major items include:
The AMT will ensnare over 31 million families, up from 4 million last year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress’ failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families—rising from 4 million last year to 31 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.
Full business expensing will disappear. In 2011, businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. Starting on 2013 tax returns, all of it will have to be “depreciated” (slowly deducted over many years).
Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the “research and experimentation tax credit,” but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.
Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.
Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual “required minimum distribution.” This ability will no longer be there.
Mary Elizabeth
September 21st, 2012
12:04 pm
Fred,
“You are trying to reason with unreasonable people ME. It doesn’t work. So they will attack you.”
====================================
Thanks, Fred. I learned that what you have said to me is true, long ago, especially through this blog. But, I will continue to speak truth here, for those who read my posts, looking for that truth, as I see it, to be stated forthrightly.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:05 pm
Debbie:
“Kept by better men (women) than yourself”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:06 pm
Aquagirl:
I thought you posted yesterday that Pakistan was “all better” now ……………………..
(
“Pakistan explodes in protest; 17 killed…”
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/09/20129219618263113.html (Nice booties he’s wearing)
EJ Moosa
September 21st, 2012
12:07 pm
“In his radio show yesterday Clark Howard talked about the thousands of jobs in Georgia that are unfilled because the workforce lacks the necessary skills and training”
If those jobs really existed, you don’t think the companies would be training themselves?
When did it become the role of the public sector to train all workers for the private sector.
For those that are against “corporate welfare”, here’s a good place to start.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
12:08 pm
Scout
I thank him for his service, however he was unwilling to follow the rules and regulations that he signed up to adhere to.
He was generously offered the choice of resigning or getting dishonorably discharged.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:08 pm
Now here’s an idea !
Headline: “France bans protests over Prophet Mohammad cartoons”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:10 pm
Erwin’s cat
September 21st, 2012
12:00 pm
Fred…I link it on page 2
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/news/2012/jan/13/georgia-ranks-no-7-nation-new-education-report/
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks Erwin’s Cat. Unfortunately that ranking is not based at all on student learning or performance………….
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
12:11 pm
Matti – GA ranks 7th in quality of education…the best we can do is provide a quality education, the rest is up to the students, parents, and community to take advantage of that quality of education
thanks for the gold star, but I’d rather have opposable thumbs
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
12:12 pm
Matt — too funny!! Question : If Limpballs pecker is shrinking, how can anyone tell?
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Georgia Rankings in Education:
On-time graduation rate: 65%, Rank 46th
Fourth Grade Reading Proficiency: 29% proficient or above, Rank 36th
Fourth Grade Math Proficiency 34% proficient or above, Rank 38th
Eighth Grade Reading Proficiency 27% proficient or above, Rank 37th
Eighth Grade Math Proficiency 27% proficient or above, Rank 38th
http://www.educatedgeorgia.org/how-does-georgia-rank-on-education/
Now some on here are going to say – It’s because of MINORITIES that those numbers are low. I’m going to go ahead and give you that one. Why? Well when the state cuts education funding to the districts, the districts that seem to suffer the most from the funding cuts usually just happen to be in heavy “Democratic and/or minority districts”. Just saying…..
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Keep @ 11:46 — too funny!!
Georgia, The " New Mississippi "
September 21st, 2012
12:12 pm
Georgia will continue to reap what it has sown. Johnny Reb Economics rules the the day at the State Capitol. Combine that with the lack of integrity and low morals our elected leaders possess and Georgia is getting what it voted for.
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
12:12 pm
Fred – I have been trying to see how those metrics stack up as well, but that data has been easy to track down….so far
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
12:13 pm
Fred – I have been trying to see how those metrics stack up as well, but that data has not been easy to track down….so far
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:13 pm
Doomy@ 12:02: I’m disappointed in you. OJ was innocent to I guess you would say………….
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
12:14 pm
DDR…thanks for the link
Wilbur
September 21st, 2012
12:14 pm
Strange that Jay won’t ask his big question “Is it working” of the disaster that is Obamanomics.
Perhaps it’s because the answer is so clear that Obama has failed utterly.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
12:14 pm
How many protests are happening HERE scout? Or do you think that the US should ban other countries citizens from their “freedom of speech”?
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
12:15 pm
“Posted by
CNN’s Dana Davidsen”
Then I stopped reading! I heard that song before. If its about Obama then its all praises regardless of truth or consequences
Thulsa Doom
September 21st, 2012
12:15 pm
“Rejected. Find me another Middle Eastern country that gets $3+ billion in annual aid and access to US intelligence assets. There’s one, but I don’t think you’ll be happy when you figure out which one it is.”
Counter rejected. Egypt alone gets 2 billion per year and is still getting that money despite what just happened to our embassy. How much does Iraq get sir? Haven’t looked it up but I’ll bet its in the megabillions. Collectively the Arab states as a whole get far more aid than Israel so right there your argument is done.
“At least with the Israelis we are getting something for our money.”
Like what? Specifics, please.
Like a trading relationship and an ally in the Middle East and someone who doesn’t routinely attack us.
“I think you need to read it in the first place, because there are still-living Liberty crewmembers who don’t believe that for a moment.”
I am aware of that. But the Israelis claimed it was an accident and I have to go with that as opposed to what someone thinks or wants to believe painful as it might be to the sailors of the Liberty.
“Big difference between a mistake as in friendly fire and intentional terrorist attacks. I’m surprised you seem to equate that with terrorist attacks.”
“As I said, you need to educate yourself on the circumstances and investigation of the attack, because there are still HUGE holes in the Israeli story.”
I did. And I don’t see much of a purpose or much that Israel would gain by attacking pretty much its only friend. But for the sake of argument even if you could prove it was a malicious attack it would tick me off but even then I still don’t see them as being a regular danger to the U.S. Now if they started sponsoring terrorism or being sympathetic to anti- U.S. operatives then I would have a problem with them. But overall its ludicrous to compare Israel’s relations to us vis a vis overall Arab hostility to us.
The last part about them wanting to participate in the war is irrelevant.
I’m stepping out but if you want to respond I may be back towards the end of the day. Good talking to ya Joe. Doomy.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
12:15 pm
Scout
In other words, he was fired in way that doesn’t reflect on his record as opposed to the boot he was going to get via a dishonorable discharge. Either way, the man was fired because he was unwilling to follow the rules and regs. You might agree with his assessments, but he is not above the US military codes of conduct he signed up for, right?
I hope he is grateful for the option he received.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
12:15 pm
Erwin’s Cat, thanks for the GDP link @ noon. I did a little more digging and came up with some more source material if anyone’s interested, here:
http://www.edweek.org/media/qualitycounts2012_release.pdf
Of course it’s just one organization’s ranking, but it’s worth a look.
To be honest I have a somewhat skewed view of GA public education. I am in a part of GA where the public schools are doing pretty good work–in fact, I just recently attended a “parent involvement night” and, after speaking with my child’s teachers, feel better about my local situation than ever.
And yet I don’t see why the state as a whole is hell-bent on reducing spending in this area.
So, make of that what one will.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:16 pm
They BOTH suck:
I don’t mean this too critically but you have not lived in that “real world”.
There are ALWAYS rules/regulations (and even direct orders) that are disobeyed. It’s just the way it is.
I will never forget after having been through the discipline of Marine boot camp, infantry training, sniper training, etc., etc. a “briefing” we received by a major just before we went to Nam. It was against everything we had been taught to date ……….. to obey orders without question.
He basically said there might be a time when as individuals we might have to disobey an order ………. and we would have to live with that decision.
That really confused me until I got to Nam where it all became very clear.
Sometimes you disobeyed (and there are many ways to do it) an order to kill someone that should not be killed (you just miss). Sometimes because a captain wanted to get a medal you “disobeyed” to put an ambush in a certain area (to just get Marines killed for his medal). I could go on and on but you get the picture ……………. you “often” do what is best for you and those under your control and to save lives.
It’s just the real world and if you don’t think it is happening “right now” in Iraq and Afghanistan you are very naive about military ground combat in particular.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:17 pm
Erwin: I know lol. I’ve been trying to find it myself. I don’t recall it being posted on Maureen’s blog (do you read that on, Get Schooled? I don’t recall seeing you post over there), and she is all over that stuff.
I think there is so much subjectivity that it’s tough to do it. It seems like whoever is doing a “ranking” can pick and choose and massage the data to get pretty much any result they want. While I keep hearing how low we are ranked, I never can seem to find it. Until you posted that link 27th was the highest I’ve seen us.
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
12:17 pm
stands for decibels @ 1124,
Nice try. We too, even as Americans have contempt of court proceedings. Such isn’t exclusive even of monotheism. You won’t hear these kinds of things from the Prince of Peace.
But for the Muslims
But this is from The Prophet himself:
89. They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not Auliya’ (protectors or friends) from them, till they emigrate in the Way of Allah (to Muhammad ). But if they turn back (from Islam), take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them, and take neither Auliya’ (protectors or friends) nor helpers from them.
Sura An-Nisa’ Verse 89
They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not Auliya’ (protectors or friends) from them, till they emigrate in the Way of Allah (to Muhammad ). But if they turn back (from Islam), take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them, and take neither Auliya’ (protectors or friends) nor helpers from them.
Clear directions to kill apostates that to this day are being carried out.
Are Jews and Christians doing these things? No, and since modern times it has not been church policy to do so.
Trust me, you DON’T want to get into a discussion comparing the blood-lust embodied by the hero of the Quran with Christianity and ancient Judaism, and frankly I’d tire of proving you absurd.
Peace be upon him… and you.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
12:18 pm
“Georgia will continue to reap what it has sown”
God I sure hope so!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:18 pm
Debbie:
My point was ………… once you start trying to ban “free speech” (even nasty anti-religious speech) then other “bans” start popping up.
Slippery slope ……………..
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
12:19 pm
Okay so, who thinks that Rush is back on the pills and booze?
The Incredible Shrinking Penis
“I think it’s feminism,” he declared. “If it’s tied to the last 50 years — the average size of [a male's] member is 10 percent smaller than 50 years — it has to be the feminazis, the chickification and everything else.”
“Give ‘em time and they’ll blame Bush. But air pollution vs. feminazis? Ha!”
In 2009, Limbaugh worried that the Center for Disease Control was considering a proposal to encourage circumcision for all baby boys.
“If we need to save our penises from anybody, it’s Obama,” he said at the time.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
12:21 pm
100 Days Until Taxmageddon
Twice posted drudgey spam.
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
12:22 pm
Now some on here are going to say – It’s because of MINORITIES that those numbers are low. I’m going to go ahead and give you that one. Why? Well when the state cuts education funding to the districts, the districts that seem to suffer the most from the funding cuts usually just happen to be in heavy “Democratic and/or minority districts”. Just saying…..
Just saying nonsense is what you’re saying Debbie.
If spending per pupil is the criterion for success… oh why bother you with any proof when even you yourself aren’t so daft to believe that it is!
skydog
September 21st, 2012
12:23 pm
How low are Ga. schools?
Honey BooBoo is an alumni.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 21st, 2012
12:23 pm
Debbie, is Mitt proposing a Penis Depletion Allowance?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
12:23 pm
Lunch!
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
12:24 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
12:19 pm
You listen to Rush? Why I am impressed. You are a Do right Woman.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:24 pm
skydog
September 21st, 2012
12:23 pm
How low are Ga. schools?
Honey BooBoo is an alumni.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://instantrimshot.com/
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
12:25 pm
The Incredible Shrinking Penis
DDR — it was on drudgey for most of the day yesterday.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
12:25 pm
Trust me, you DON’T want to get into a discussion comparing the blood-lust embodied by the hero of the Quran with Christianity and ancient Judaism
Well no, I don’t, because a-holes who are convinced that Muslims are by nature bloodthirsty and evil aren’t worth talking to.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
12:25 pm
Scout
Understood, but just as in every day life, if you are caught……. you must pay the price.
He was afforded a good option, that in some cases others do not get.
And if I or you come across anything to substantiate his claim, I will send the guy an email (If he has an email address that I can obtain) to apologize to him.
Until that time, imo at best he is embellishing at worst he is lying.
Regardless of how well they served their country, there are those who are in the military or have been who do lie. It isn’t something that one is automatically immune from, just because they have put their life on the line
Matti
September 21st, 2012
12:26 pm
DDR,
Rush needs to make up his mind! Does he think liberal women are “sluhts?” (Known to stimulate growth… heh… heh heh…..), or are we the cause of shrinkage? Bless his heart.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:27 pm
“Well no, I don’t, because a-holes who are convinced that Muslims are by nature bloodthirsty and evil aren’t worth talking to.”
Not “Muslims” ………………… “Radical Jihadist Muslims”.
Big difference.
Kind of like “Christians” …………. or ………… “Radical KKK Christians”.
Get it ?
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
12:27 pm
the average size of [a male's] member is 10 percent smaller than 50 years
glad to see the Excrement in Broadcasting keeping his eyes on the prize.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:28 pm
Well no, I don’t, because a-holes who are convinced that Muslims are by nature bloodthirsty and evil aren’t worth talking to.
Can I have an Amen?
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
12:29 pm
Not “Muslims” ………………… “Radical Jihadist Muslims”.
Big difference.
Don’t tell me, tell the “Obambarrassment” thingie.
(and is it just me, or is that the lamest anti-Obama screen name ever? It’s like he’s not even trying.)
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:30 pm
the average size of [a male's] member is 10 percent smaller than 50 years
I wouldn’t know. I got so fat I ain’t seen mine in three years………
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 21st, 2012
12:30 pm
They BOTH suck:
I hear you as long as you understand:
1) There is a time when one has to disobey a military order in the interest of humanity.
2) He “claimed” there was a directive.
3) I posted last night that the article was “his opinion”.
I think you and I can have some great discussions (and even some agreement) if personal attacks against each other are not made.
Got to run for awhile but will check back later.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:31 pm
TBS? Who in the HELL are you talking about lol? I tried to trace the source of your convo with Scout but can’t find it.
Aquagirl
September 21st, 2012
12:31 pm
0311, I didn’t say anything was “all better” I pointed out you were complaining about a demonstration that had ALREADY ENDED with no loss of American life.
I’m sure in your world Mitt could stop those demonstrations by a forceful flip-flop of his square jaw.
Palestinians demonstrated throughout many Republican administrations, let’s write Reagan off as a pantywaist too, huh?
BTW your whining orders-optional SGT. is….well, a whiner. And a disgraceful b@stard.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
12:32 pm
I wouldn’t know. I got so fat I ain’t seen mine in three years………
TMI, Fred.
Just sayin’.
HamiltonAZ
September 21st, 2012
12:32 pm
This is purely opinion based upon the following facts. The ruling party has eviscerated most of the essential government agencies in the state – Department of Corrections-probation division; Department of Human Resources-Family and Children Division; Judicial Branch; Department of Natural Resources-enforcement division; and local education. For legislators and governors who want to do away with traditional public education, they fail o consider how business location decisions strongly rank the health of traditional public education . The middle school truancy rate is strongly correlated to the high school dropout rate that is strongly correlated to young adult felony crime. Rehabilitation has been non-existent because probation officers have obscene case load numbers.
The government is falling into a sinkhole because we’ve elected people who promised to send it there. These legislators cannot propose solutions because every reasonable solution involves doing things they’ve promised not to do. So they go every year and pass new criminal laws, legislate morals and generally accomplish nothing to help our economy. In a way they can’t understand, they have created such a dysfunctional government, it is just where they promised to remove it – “in the way of progress”
skydog
September 21st, 2012
12:37 pm
“the average size of [a male's] member is 10 percent smaller than 50 years”
++++++++++++
I think they are over sampling Republicans in this study.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 21st, 2012
12:38 pm
Re: the USS Liberty, Thulsa. Very well said, Joe Hussein Mama. And thanks also for the personal experience, Scout.
stands for decibels
September 21st, 2012
12:39 pm
I think they are over sampling Republicans in this study.
one of those landline-only polls?
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
12:40 pm
“the average size of [a male's] member is 10 percent smaller than 50 years”
Wow, really, I thought my hands were getting bigger.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
12:40 pm
Ivan and Thulsa
Bless your hearts!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
12:41 pm
Life span drops sharply for least-educated whites…
drudgey
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
12:42 pm
“Ivan and Thulsa
Bless your hearts!”
Be careful Ivan and Thulsa that could be a radical christain or some religious gesture putting out a hit on you.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
12:46 pm
Fred
Scout posted an article last night from an ex Navy Seal. He wrote a book while still in the Navy that was critical of Obama and how the war was being conducted. DOD said he had to resign or face a dishonorable discharge. So he resigned and released the book.
In the book he claims due to a “directive” he could not carry live ammunition. DDR and I picked up on that line and asked Scout about, plus I researched it myself.
Of course, I can’t find any directive stating such. Scout is now saying it could have been a verbal directive.
I could be wrong, but I say the guy is embellishing his story. We can all see the war in Afghanistan hasn’t been a success. Mostly due to the tribal culture that they adhere to and not from the military’s efforts.
I know the man has 1st hand experience, but when you say “directive” that is not an opinion.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
12:47 pm
Belgian prostitutes told to wear more clothes…
drudgey
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
12:48 pm
Strangely Rush is right. He’s just got the reason wrong.
I have posted this info previously.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/05/01/206661/–Penis-Size-Shrinking-Due-To-Environmental-Pollution-Poll-Rated-R-for-Mature-Subject-Matter
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
12:52 pm
Fred
Conversation (argument) started during last night’s thread: Truman
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
12:54 pm
Willibkind
Those two blustering powder puffs?
Ain’t likely.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
12:55 pm
What is the unemployment levels for THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERAN! ?
TaxPayer
September 21st, 2012
12:56 pm
So, the bottom line with Georgia’s education system apparently is that we spend a lot of money to get results that may be adequate and to fix that, our Republican leaders want to give the state the ability to further cut funding to the local schools and use that money to create state chartered schools run by the likes of Phoenix so they can suck the life out of more people than they currently have access to. Or something like that.
ken
September 21st, 2012
12:57 pm
It’s not just Georiga with job problems.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Unemployment rates rose in more than half of U.S. states last month, the latest evidence that hiring remains tepid across the country.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
12:58 pm
Fred
Scout posted an article last night from an ex Navy Seal. He wrote a book while still in the Navy that was critical of Obama and how the war was being conducted.
++++++++++++++++++
Oh THAT traitorous scumbag POS. He is lower than whale dung. One hard firm rule in Spec Ops is what happens in Spec Ops STAYS in Spec ops. That “SEAL” is a cowardly turd who has lost the respect of his peers. only someone like SCOUT who is ate up with irrational hatred for our President would show any “respect” for him. He should have been courtmartialed and tossed in jail like the scum he is.
TaxPayer
September 21st, 2012
12:59 pm
And what’s all this talk about Rush becoming less of a dick.
They BOTH suck
September 21st, 2012
12:59 pm
Fred
He surely was offered an option that many are not afforded
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:00 pm
I was told size does not matter!
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
1:00 pm
Kam: I think the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS are a shiftless lot so their employment rate is close to zero………….
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
1:01 pm
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:00 pm
I was told size does not matter!
++++++++++++++++++++
I’ve been told that you “little” guys are told that a lot. It’s a lie.
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
1:01 pm
Dang Willie. i forgot the
sorry.
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
1:02 pm
Actually TP
GA was ranked something like 28th to 30 something on money spent per student, thats why, like stands, I don’t understand the cuts on education….I’m okay with charter schools thou
skydog
September 21st, 2012
1:02 pm
Kam – You talking about ol Wild Bill up here in Kennesaw? He`s still employed.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepawproject/6130063014/
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:03 pm
“Those two blustering powder puffs?
Ain’t likely.”
Oops guess size does matter!
skydog
September 21st, 2012
1:05 pm
I had 3 independent girl friends nick named me tripod.
I am only 5′ 6″ tall, but Hey!
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:05 pm
“I’ve been told that you “little” guys are told that a lot. It’s a lie. Sorry.”
Dang, I guess I better get an education.
Erwin's cat
September 21st, 2012
1:08 pm
10%….so what, that’s only a couple of inches
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
1:09 pm
Isn’t it time for a comedy blog?
Something like this perhaps:
Herman Cain is saying he’d be way ahead of Obama at this point if he were the nominee because he has “some depth to my ideas.”
H/T to TPM
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
1:10 pm
skydog
Bookman blog lore has it that by posting “Sons of Confederate Veterans”, is enough to bring about a new thread — kinda like saying “Bloody Mary” or “Betelgeuse” only with less consequences.
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
1:10 pm
Obambarrassment
September 21st, 2012
12:17 pm
4:89 They long that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved so that you might be on the same level; so take not from among them friends until they flee (their homes) in Allah’s way. Then if they turn back (to hostility), seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take no friend nor helper from among them,
4:90 Except those who join a people between whom and you there is an alliance, or who come to you, their hearts shrinking from fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had pleased, He would have given them power over you, so that they would have fought you. So if they withdraw from you and fight you not and offer you peace, then Allah allows you no way against them.
This is from the Maulana Muhammad Ali translation. As you can see the placement of a word here or there can greatly change what might be gotten from reading a verse. For instance,
The King James Version reads: “Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen…. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.”
Is this a condemnation of the practice of adorning Christmas tree’s? The point is without context one cannot think reading selected verses will provide an accurate assessment of any subject. Just saying
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
1:13 pm
Skydog @12:23 pm that’s hilarious. I haven’t seen the show but I did see a short interview with the family. Hilarious!!!!
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:13 pm
“Is it time for a comedy blog”
Jay’s blog has always been a major comedy.
GG I dont get your 1:09
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
1:13 pm
Three guys standing on a bridge micturating.
1st guy: “Boy, that river sure is cold.”
2nd guy: “Deep, too.”
3rd guy: “Yeah, with rocks on the bottom.”
skydog
September 21st, 2012
1:15 pm
I got you on the SONS thing Kam.
I figured Bookman just waited until we evolved into penis jokes.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
1:17 pm
We could replay the Herman Cain interview about Egypt or Libya for laughs.
“ummmm….ummmmmmm….ummmmmmm”
Fred ™
September 21st, 2012
1:19 pm
micturating
Really? Now what did I tell you about us Rednecks and them three dollar words?
I been called Eldin ENOUGH times………..
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:20 pm
Willbmusen poll has Romney up by 67%. I guess that Obama excretion has no effect on Romney!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
1:20 pm
Williebkind
That so sad! Maybe this will help dear.
http://www.behavioralinstitute.org/Partners/Dr%20Humor/Partner_NationalAssnforHumorImpaired.htm
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
September 21st, 2012
1:21 pm
A guy drops into a pub in Scotland and takes a stool at the bar next to an old timer. He tells the old timer his name is Tom.
The old timer sizes him up for a second a replies: “See that boat out there in the bay? Built it m’self. So do they call me Seamus the Boat Builder? Nooooooo.”
“See the pictures hanging in this pub? I painted them with my own hands. So, do they call me Seamus the Painter? Noooooooooooooo.”
“That glass yer drinkin’ out of. Blew that glass m’self. Do they call me Seamus the Glass Blower? Noooooooooooooooooooo.”
The old timer leans in close and whispers “but you eff just ONE goat…..”
Pizza
September 21st, 2012
1:21 pm
We were hoping we would be able to sell our house when we leave, rather than abandoning it.
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:22 pm
micturating
I have learned the word of the day! micturating!
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:23 pm
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
1:20 pm
that is too cute!
Regnad Kcin
September 21st, 2012
1:24 pm
“If spending per pupil is the criterion for success… oh why bother you with any proof when even you yourself aren’t so daft to believe that it is!”
See how he did that?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
September 21st, 2012
1:24 pm
Scout,
About the USS Liberty. It happened on June 8, 1967. The Six Day war had started June 5, 1967. I’m not choosing sides here and you know I hate any loss of life in the Military, but with the fog of war, the Liberty just might have been an accident like they said. I’m giving Israel a pass on this one.
Jm
September 21st, 2012
1:25 pm
End the GA income tax
Broaden the base for sales tax
Sales tax is progressive
And more revenue means more money to invest in transportation
Or just start tolling
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
1:26 pm
Embarassment: If spending per pupil is the criterion for success… oh why bother you with any proof when even you yourself aren’t so daft to believe that it is!
Well, if you have any — proof that is — I’d LOVE to look at it……
Keep : Debbie, is Mitt proposing a Penis Depletion Allowance?
HA!
skydog
September 21st, 2012
1:27 pm
I worked/lived in Charleston, SC about 5 years ago. These guys at work wanted to know would I play some drums for them. I asked what type band they had? They said they did`nt have a band, but they needed a drummer for civil war reenactments.
They said I would have the best job in the unit. Just dress up in a wool suit and slog though the Francis Marrion swamp in 100 degree heat!
They would have had a better shot of getting me to join their Barry Mantilow tribute band.
gtt
September 21st, 2012
1:29 pm
Just wait long enough and it’ll all work itself out.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
September 21st, 2012
1:29 pm
Willie,
http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_tree.htm
larry
September 21st, 2012
1:30 pm
They would have had a better shot of getting me to join their Barry Mantilow tribute band.
And just is what is wrong with that ??
Didnt you know he IS MUSIC AND HE WROTE THE SONGS!!!
Teach you to put down Barry Manilow. HHHHHhhhhmmmmph
Williebkind
September 21st, 2012
1:30 pm
A boy and a girl in a bath tub bathing and the girl asked the boy,
“What is that pointing toward his penis?”. The boy replied,
“I dont know!” The girl asked,
“Can I touch it?” The boy answered,
“Heck no you done broke yours off already”.
larry
September 21st, 2012
1:32 pm
I mean it could have been a SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS band.
Mick
September 21st, 2012
1:32 pm
skydog
In the early eighties a sweet girlfriend of mine dragged me along to a barry manilow concert. Of course, I was prepared for the worst but it wasn’t that half bad and to this day I have never seen more beautiful women dolled up for that show – go figure!
Mr_B
September 21st, 2012
1:34 pm
Hey,here’s an idea!
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 21st, 2012
1:37 pm
It worked!
9-9-9 SHEETS!
skydog
September 21st, 2012
1:38 pm
Mick – Barry can sing, but he moves like Mittens.
I know what you mean on the women all dolled up for a show. When my so was too young to drive he wanted to see Prince. We go and lawdamercy! I`m glad I came. Prince was good also.
Reality
September 21st, 2012
1:39 pm
Georgia’s economic mess SHOULD be a cause for action…. by the voters to STOP electing republicans to State office. But, it won’t happen.
For whatever reason, Georgia citizens continue to listen to lies and adopt the idiotic policies of the republicans and the ship continues to sink.
willie lynch
September 21st, 2012
1:40 pm
Normal Free…Pro Human Rights Thug…And liking it!
I appreciate the link but having read the complete chapter I understand the what/when/where of the whole story.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 21st, 2012
1:44 pm
Saw Barry Manilow at the Chicago Opera house when he was still the music director for the Divine Miss M
He performed solo on a big black grand piano and brought the house done.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 21st, 2012
1:56 pm
All you guys need Jesus, Seriously!
I think they are over sampling Republicans in this study.
one of those landline-only polls?
I wouldn’t know. I got so fat I ain’t seen mine in three years……
Wow, really, I thought my hands were getting bigger
deegee
September 21st, 2012
11:13 pm
What we need is a billion dollar sports arena.