Ol’ Harry Truman was a dirty socialist? Who knew?

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That article is a hoot!

The more things change…the more they stay the same…

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“It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.”
― Harry S. Truman

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It’s an old battle to be sure.

I’m so proud of President Obama and the democrats for
getting the job done!

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You would think he was Nostradamus…

“Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home–but not for housing. They are strong for labor–but they are stronger for restricting labor’s rights. They favor minimum wage–the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all–but they won’t spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine–for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing–but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing–so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.”
― Harry S. Truman

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The only thing wrong with the health care plan is that insurance companies are in it to maximize their profits. Single payer is still a better plan, imo.

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If someone is dumb enough to implement a good healthcare system in MA, then they should take what they get when Obama steals their thunder and implement it nationally!

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Why is that? Why is the government so bad at administration? Is it lack of oversight? Is it poor hiring and training practices? Is it a culture of taking whatever you can from a situation? Why are they so good at wasting money and people?

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Given the choice between socialism and fascism, I will take socialism.

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Going on seventy years!!!

That is how long the right wing reactionaries in the Party of No have been screwing American citizens on this one topic alone.

They are shameful and amazingly getting worse every decade…

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Great quotes Normal. We could us a man like Truman(not Hoover) again……..

One thing – believe it’s Harry S Truman. No . after the S as he no real middle name. Still great quotes from one of our Top 5 Presidents and my personal favorite.

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Robme’s father was on welfare . Con moocher.

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I don’t hear much from the Republicans lately about repealing the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare — that’s because A) it reminds those Obama haters about Romneycare, and B) they know the die is cast. Some form of universal health care is here to stay, and it’s either an insurance mandate or single payer, so if they repeal the first they are leaving the door wide open for the second.

President Obama got it done. I know that sticks in the Republicans’ craw, but maybe overtime the pain of his having a success will lessen for them.

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Had our yearly benefits meeting this morning. Premiums are up and services are down. Two thumbs up ObamaCare!

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‘Had our yearly benefits meeting this morning. Premiums are up and services are down. Two thumbs up ObamaCare!’

And what happened the year before…and the year before…and the year before…

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According to a poster on Paul Krugman’s blog today: “Since 1979, productivity has risen some 80%. Overall wages have risen 5%. Income for the top 1% has risen 240%. Who are the ‘takers,’ indeed!”

Yet, those particular top 1% – who are Republicans such as Mitt Romney – want to cut government programs such as Social Security and Medicare, at the same time that overall wages have risen so very little, in over 30 years, for average workers. (People making $12.70 an hour could hardly be expected to build retirement portfolios for themselves, yet they can contribute to Social Security and Medicare.) Even knowing this financial inequity exists in America, Republicans would cut these social programs from these working class people who are trying to survive in this nation – which has been skewed to benefit the top 1%, primarily, especially within the past 35 years.

The saddest part of this whole scenario is that so many conservatives who need Social Security and Medicare, for the very reasons I have just laid out, will vote for Gov. Romney in November.

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DAWG POUND

September 20th, 2012
3:17 pm

The problem rather exists ALWAYS in running the hospitals, schools, welfare programs etc etc once its built. The government whether liberal, conservative, democrat, republican is a flocking mess when it comes to the day to day management of government sponsered enterprises.

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Every single thing? Every single day?

Nope, I don’t buy it.

The cops came when I needed them. The ambulance came when I needed them. Medicare takes great care of my dad. Mr. G’s social secuity check is always on time.

Our local school teaches kids to read and write and add. Our parks are well tended. Our roads have been kept up. Traffic lights work.

I had a minimal wait at the DMV. Nice lady said smiled and took our dollar at a toll booth and gave us correct change. Our library is well stocked.

Our street lights come on at night. The mail arrives in the mail box and our mail lady walks the packages to the door.

Are there hiccups?

Of course.

But I believe my fellow Americans do a pretty dam good job of government.

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Actually I believe that would have been Romney’s grandparents that were the moochers. But his dad still received benefits from their mooching. But Mitt still says he built it himself.

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Deja vu!

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“my fellow Americans do a pretty dam good job of government.”

Then explain $16 Trillion dollars in debt! I would do a wonderful job of retiring early and paying off all of my bills if I could apply for and run up every credit card I could get my hands on…

CRAPPOLA, I would be a gazillionaire!!! So explain to me again how your government is doing such a great job?

One day, when the firemen and policemen aren’t getting paid because the goverment can’t create more debt/money out of thin air, tell me how great of a job they will be doing for you.

When the national debt reached 20 trillion, Moody’s and the S&P have already stated that they will down grade the US… That’s when the crap hits the fan!!!

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i truly love big gov’t benefits!

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Dawgpound, the gov’t controls the money! There will always be money!

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Private hospitals generally exceed all those qualities when compared with goverment run hospitals.

Not sure about that, but I do know this.

When compared to the VA, the profiteers suck hind t*t.

The Gold Standard, baby!

And Northside, Piedmont, Scottish Rite et al are scrambling to keep up…

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I have “good” insurance, a great doctor, a working IQ, and the assertiveness to stand up for myself, ask questions, and research my condition. Even with all that, frankly, I’m surprised I didn’t DIE already. Even with all that, I had to jump through hoop after hoop after hoop, return for test after test, spend HOURS on the phone trying to get somebody to tell me what’s wrong, and when I can expect to pay somebody to do something about it. (Apparently, the only thing graduates of these medical assistant “colleges” CAN tell you is what you will NOT be getting from your doctor today.) God forbid you have an issue with a prescription, or a question about your near-death experience over the long holiday weekend. How dare you bother them with it? Months transpire between the raising of the red flag and the solution I will soon be getting and for which I will be paying significant out-of -pocket costs. Thankfully, I have enough in the bank to cover it.

The point of this rant is not to complain, (please do not feign sympathy!) but to ask these questions:
–> What do the poor people do?
–> What do the STUPID people do?
–> If **I’m** barely hanging on, how do they survive at all?

Anyone who thinks there’s nothing wrong with the medical system we have needs to avail himself of his psychiatric benefits. (Good luck with that!)

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My medicare supplement cost just went up by $100 a month. So much for Obamacare. When Truman was President, we weren’t $16 trillion in debt. Maybe they could have afforded it then, but we can’t now.

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Dawgpound, the gov’t controls the money! There will always be money!

Federal Reserve controls money supply! Federal Reserve is a private entity. Yes, there will always be money but what will it be worth is the question. They with the help of the Federal Reserve can print it all day long but when inflation hits the value of it deminishes rapidly. In the 1930s, it cost Germans 1 month’s wages to buy a loaf of bread. In Zimbabwe, right now, they reach super hyperinflation as high as 516 quintillion %. That’s so high, you burn the money rather than firewood to keep warm!

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It’s plain hokum. If you can’t convince ‘em, confuse ‘em. It’s an old political trick. But this time it won’t work. – Harry Truman

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The president pushing the program at the time was Harry Truman, the man who had dropped the A-bomb on Japan and who, a year later, would commit U.S. troops to a land war in Asia, trying to block the invasion of South Korea by North Korean and Chinese communists.
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President Harry S Truman ordered the Secretary of Commerce on April 8, 1952, to seize and operate most of the country’s steel mills for the ostensible purpose of maintaining production of critical munitions.

Owners of the seized properties obtained a court injunction against the seizure, and an appeal of that injunction to the U.S. Supreme Court gave rise to one of the “great cases” in constitutional law, Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. et al. v. Sawyer.1 Although the Court found the president’s actions to be unconstitutional, its decision did not signify a triumph of private rights or a significant check on the government’s exercise of de facto emergency powers.

http://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=1394

I am guessing the point is a Socialist would not invade another socialist country. However, the argument is fairly weak when looking at history. For example, Vietnam invaded Cambodia, the Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia, China invaded Vietnam. Socialism doesn’t seem to eliminate Nationalistic tendies.

Also, there are different degrees to which someone is socialist.

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Granny Godzilla @ 3:17, well said!

Lots of folks say government can never get anything right, but just ask them: Have you ever had a problem with an airline? Did your bank ever make a mistake? Does your power go off sometimes? What about your cable service? How do you feel about your cellphone provider? Does every restaurant you go to serve your food exactly as you want it every meal you eat there? Ever worked with a contractor to build or remodel a house?

Government doesn’t get everything right; no one does. But if government in America gets too many things wrong, we have the power to change it.

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getalife,

I’m glad you didn’t die!

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Thanks Kam – The Blues need to learn how to protect a lead. That sure hurt yeaterday. That kid is phenomenal (sp?).

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“Yeah, then the Demorats can go back to owning slaves like they did in the 1800’s and can reinstitute Jim Crowe laws which keep people segregated into the 1960s and 70s. Oh yes, reread your hisotry books that’s what the Democratic party was all about even up to 30 years ago!”

DawgP – you’re saying, in 1982, Democrats were instituting Jim Crow laws? MY history books (and my memory) disagree – you want to retract that?

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I simply cannot wait for the insurance premium bills or the penalty bills to start hitting the doorstep of the presently uninsured. For most it will be great, for some it will be a slap in the face by reality.

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“I’m glad you didn’t die!”

You too!

Blogs are great to vent frustrations.

Vent all you want.

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My President supports wealth redistribution! That’s good enough for me!

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ugh…another tired topic…I almost can’t wait for another GCC article….almost

I know, i know blogspot.com is ready when i am

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Dunwoody Granny @ 3:56 — Excellent point!

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If everyone is split on a Prez again like the last election we are in a sad state of affairs for our children,we will have more of the same for the next four years.Forward,”Yea Right”.

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Yeah Kam – Oscar. Kid’s going to b a Star.

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I’m a fan of Truman. He dropped nukes and arguably saved countless lives in those two horrifically brutal events.

Personnel at the Navy Department estimated that the total losses to America (in a Japanese invasion) would be between 1.7 and 4 million with 400,000 to 800,000 deaths.

The loss of Japanese civilian lives would have been truly staggering…

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I’m kind of a youngster here, so I don’t remember Truman.

Whatever happened to his healthcare plan?

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Joe Hussein: A-bomb =/= nuke

Ummm. . . what? it’s a nuclear explosion, thus a “nuke”.

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romney is still lying about the 716 billion in Medicare.

Getting heckled.

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getalife,

I appreciate the opportunity to vent, but seriously.. I wonder how people without my resources (insurance, financial, and otherwise) make it. If I were uninsured, meek, lacking the ability research and understand, or without transportation, living in a rural area where the nearest doctor is an hour away, or just scraping by as an hourly worker who cannot take the time off for a multitude of visits to the dr’s office, lab, and hospital…. my prognosis would be very different.

It’s a frightening thought to ME……. Reality to too many others.

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“Many consider Truman one of our 10 greatest presidents. I think Obama will be right up there with him”

okay on #1
ohbiy

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Logical Dude — “Ummm. . . what? it’s a nuclear explosion, thus a “nuke”.

My understanding has always been that thermonuclear weapons — not merely atomic ones — merited the appellation “nuke.”

An A-bomb, such as the ones dropped on Japan, is just the *fuse* on a thermonuclear weapon.

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Kamchack: “The administrators however, are heartless, soulless, paper pushing parasites that are a big part of the problem in the health care industry. Get rid of these middlewomen/men leeches and more of the money can go towards treatment and prevention.””

Standing and applauding! And these private vocational “colleges” that take federal money to teach “medical assistants” that their hyper-inflated sense of self-esteem is what matters, and sick people should be put in their place, not actually helped, need to be shut down.

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Our HC Administrators have literally been using Obamacare as an excuse to raise rates by 14% year after year, even before the bill was passed.

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Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he’d lie just to keep his hand in. – Harry S. Truman

Sounds an awful lot like, one Willard Mitt…Mr. 47%!

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those crazy Germans……… engineering a better system than either DEMS or REPS can come up with

Healthcare in GermanyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Germany has a universal multi-payer health care system with two main types of health insurance: “Law-enforced health insurance” (Gesetzliche Krankenversicherung) known as sickness funds and “Private” (Private Krankenversicherung).[1][2][3]

Compulsory insurance applies to those below a set income level and is provided through private non-profit “sickness funds” at common rates for all members, and is paid for with joint employer-employee contributions. Provider compensation rates are negotiated in complex corporatist social bargaining among specified autonomously organized interest groups (e.g. physicians’ associations) at the level of federal states (Länder). The sickness funds are mandated to provide a wide range of coverages and cannot refuse membership or otherwise discriminate on an actuarial basis. Small numbers of persons are covered by tax-funded government employee insurance or social welfare insurance. Persons with incomes above the prescribed compulsory insurance level may opt into the sickness fund system, which a majority do, or purchase private insurance. Private supplementary insurance to the sickness funds of various sorts is available.

In 2005, Germany spent 10.7% of GDP on health care, or US$3,628 per capita. According to the World Health Organization, Germany’s health care system was 77% government-funded and 23% privately funded as of 2004[4]. In 2004 Germany ranked thirtieth in the world in life expectancy (78 years for men). It had a very low infant mortality rate (4.7 per 1,000 live births), and it was tied for eighth place in the number of practicing physicians, at per 1,000 people (3.3). In 2001 total spending on health amounted to 10.8 percent of gross domestic product

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It’s the same ol’ same ol’, Jay. Without the profit motive to repay their campaign donors, Republicans won’t like anything and will find anyway they can to try to make it all about them. I mean, may God help the health-care program that merely breaks even, or, may God forbid, holds down costs like Obamacare does.

But it reminds me of a campaign speech FDR made in ‘36, in which he soundly ridiculed this Republican tendency to try to make it all about them. It’s too funny, Jay, and a clear indication that this crap with the Republican Party has been going on far too long!

“Let me warn you and let me warn the nation against the smooth evasion that says ‘of course we believe these things. We believe in social security. We believe in work for the unemployed. We believe in saving homes. Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things. BUT, we do not like the way the present administration is DOING them! Just turn them over to us. We will do ALL of them. We will do MORE of them. We will do them better! And most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody ANYthing.’”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZUaW0HwCM&feature=related

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If Congress had as much courage as Harry Truman, maybe, just maybe our healthcare system wouldn’t be in the vaulted mess that it is in and just maybe, the citizenry wouldn’t be as cynical and sick as they are.

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Moderite Line – “Part of your compensation is your health insurance so unless this is the only company you can work for then it is not a monopoly. As far as the CEO pay although his pay is way to much in my opinion you are being misleading. His total compensation for 5 years was $120 million. 95.8 million of his income was from stock gain.

Also, I provided a link if you do not want him to pay so much right to the owners of the companies which are provided in the link below.”
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No M. Line, I have to pay $500 a month for 80-20% coverage.

So if I don`t like the coverage, just change companies? Brilliant! Why didn`t I think of that? Let the bottom feeding insurance companies wag the dog.

$120,000,000 in 5 years is OK, M. Line? The man has not touched a band aid!
Oh, but most of this composition is stock options.

Receiving stock options is almost as sad as having to sell some stock to pay for college.

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I mean, may God help the health-care program that merely breaks even, or, may God forbid, holds down costs like Obamacare does.

Tom’s magical thinking.

The “pass-a-law” fantasy that government is doing what it legislated.

Anybody see any prices going down in any sector of the economy?

Anyone???

Didn’t think so.

Let’s not have any more government programs to bend the cost curve please!

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At least conservatives are coherent in their arguments

OmG, this poster is funnier than Redneck Convert and Bill Orvis White put together.

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Wow, let’s just debate with absurdity after absurdity.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ from one who uses a blog name to vilify the sitting president.

Must be a new nadir in political “debate”.

Socialism — BOO!

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JamVet, what a story about your experiences in the VA Hospital. And, relatively recently, too. God bless for what you have endured and survived!

My father, who also sustained blood clots in his lungs and legs, was also treated by the VA, and he was most appreciative of the excellent care he received there. With a blood thinner and monitoring routine that he followed very carefully, he survived an additional 32 years. He died at age 80 in 2000.

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Back in the day, we didn’t have so many hypochondriacs and drug companies pushing legal drugs with doctors and politicians in their pocket. People were not encouraged to go on disability and take pain killers and nerve pills. Can’t compare today to then.

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nelson — “If they decide that they want to suffer for another four years”

MOAR SUFFERING DETAILS PLZ

KTHXBAI

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the REAL non-contributors

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since you said please i will not post this again

those crazy Germans……… engineering a better system than either DEMS or REPS can come up with

Healthcare in GermanyFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Germany has a universal multi-payer health care system with two main types of health insurance: “Law-enforced health insurance” (Gesetzliche Krankenversicherung) known as sickness funds and “Private” (Private Krankenversicherung).[1][2][3]

Compulsory insurance applies to those below a set income level and is provided through private non-profit “sickness funds” at common rates for all members, and is paid for with joint employer-employee contributions. Provider compensation rates are negotiated in complex corporatist social bargaining among specified autonomously organized interest groups (e.g. physicians’ associations) at the level of federal states (Länder). The sickness funds are mandated to provide a wide range of coverages and cannot refuse membership or otherwise discriminate on an actuarial basis. Small numbers of persons are covered by tax-funded government employee insurance or social welfare insurance. Persons with incomes above the prescribed compulsory insurance level may opt into the sickness fund system, which a majority do, or purchase private insurance. Private supplementary insurance to the sickness funds of various sorts is available.

In 2005, Germany spent 10.7% of GDP on health care, or US$3,628 per capita. According to the World Health Organization, Germany’s health care system was 77% government-funded and 23% privately funded as of 2004[4]. In 2004 Germany ranked thirtieth in the world in life expectancy (78 years for men). It had a very low infant mortality rate (4.7 per 1,000 live births), and it was tied for eighth place in the number of practicing physicians, at per 1,000 people (3.3). In 2001 total spending on health amounted to 10.8 percent of gross domestic product

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Joe,

You are dubious; I agree.

I’ll let you work that out for yourself.

If you are still thinking that what’s important in this debate is the outrage that Harry Truman or Barack Obama is being called a socialist by someone in the conservative blogosphere or that Mitt Romney wants a Spanish inquisition, then you’re beyond short-term hope for whatever I can do.

But my effort to be generous to your needs, I will quote as much Thomas Sowell and GK Chesterton as I possibly can, hoping for your intellectual revival sometime between now and 2016.

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Joe and Jam,

I take it too .

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What exactly are you reaching for? Where does this say Harry Truman was a socialist? This is an article about universal health care, Harry Truman was obviously in favor, especially for the aged (he was the first Medicare enrollee in the 1960s, correct)?
The idea of universal health care was to reduce fear and keep you covered in case of emergency, just as Social Security was set up to keep elderly people from starving in the 1930s. SS was NEVER envisioned to be a 1-2:1 payee to receiver ratio like today with it paying for all sorts of stuff. Plus the average life expectancy wasn’t even 65 then.
And health care meant you got treatment if you were very, very sick. It wasn’t that someone weighed 325 pounds (no one weighed that much back then, just look at pictures) and went to the doctor because they had high blood pressure, aching joints, etc. and expected to have a pill cure their ills.

Not even Apples and Oranges. The world was much simpler then and people didn’t routinely live into their 80s/90s and have DECADES of medical care provided for them at little or no cost (Medicare payments in don’t even come close to covering cost of the program).

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What people don’t seem to understand is that Obamacare is about access and insurance reform, NOT health care reform or cost containment. One of the major flaws is that the$700 IRS penalty it imposes on those without insurance is likely a savings from the cost of any plan in the vaunted health insurance exchange.where individual policies will likely cost $1500 or more a month. In addition, as there is a severe shortage of physicians and no requirement that they take Medicaid or exchange patients, there is a very likely scenario that individiuals who are currently without insurance now could conceivably have new Medicaid coverage via Obamacare…and nowhere to go taht accepts it. What then?

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I,M VERY PROUD OF OUR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA…….I,M A WEALTHY MIDDLE AGE WHITE MAN BUT THIS MAN IS MY HERO..HE MAKES ME PROUD..ARTICULATE,HANDSOME ,COOL AND CALM AND VERY PRESIDENTIAL..OBAMA 2012

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And Joe,

If you’re thinking along these lines:…..

The only information little Tommie Sowell can impart is where he gets his life sized Ayn Rand blow up doll,

…you’re way way beyond rehabilitation.

Just in case you were wondering.

The danger of this type of thinking is that it causes great stress when and if one who believes it, actually would read Sowell. It would be as if you argued gravity was turned off and then realized a coconut fell on your head.

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It is of no consequence what happened in our past history by Presidents of either party. What counts is now. Socialism to me is basically big government and big government involvement in our daily lives. Under this administration we have had socialism. Almost all Republicans do not want socialism and we represent half of the voters.

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As long as we’re quoting Truman, here is my favorite quote – and arguably his most well known: “I don’t give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it’s Hell.”

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See it’s now been proven that OBAMA is the first President of the USA.

NOTHING counts that happened before OBAMA.

OBAMA is a SOCIALIST and the USA has become a SOCIALIST country in 3.5 years.

Nucking Futz

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If you can’t handle the truth Sowell articulates…

“Truth”, “truthiness” — whatevs.

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Obam — “If you’re thinking along these lines:…..…you’re way way beyond rehabilitation.”

If you don’t hurry up and actually exert some effort, I’m going to dismiss you as well.

Either dispense with this “rehabilitation” bullspit and get on with it or man up and admit you’re not up to the task. Either way, s**t or get off the pot.

“Just in case you were wondering.”

I spent the first 20+ years of my voting life on your side, and the conservative capacity for talking big s**t and then scampering off at the first sign of actual work to be done never ceases to amaze me. So get on with it.

“The danger of this type of thinking is that it causes great stress when and if one who believes it, actually would read Sowell. It would be as if you argued gravity was turned off and then realized a coconut fell on your head.”

I’ve read Sowell. Along with a great many other conservative thinkers.

Are you done with your Consumer Warnings and Prescription Interactions yet?

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The guy murdered tens of thousands when he dropped those weapons on defenseless cities so this kind of anti-human communist position doesn’t suprise me.

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Maybe if we could get the entire families of the 400 richest in the USA to an outdoor wedding in Wisconsin (preferably Janesville) we could have Obama stage a drone attack LOL.

OHHHHH the STOOOPID is BURNING.

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If Truman wanted a single payor system and if he actually believed the distinction without a difference of who the docs legally worked for then he deserved his failure on this point.

Just like Obama deserves the condemnation he is getting from most Americans for his over reaching takeover of our healthcare system. His real goal is Single Payor which is true for most liberals. Now three and a half years into the Obama administration we can see that his solutions for America haven’t worked, aren’t working and won’t work. His policies have simply failed. We have a stagnant economy teetering on the edge of a double dip recession but the media like Jay are just to dumb to know that Obamanomics is a disaster.

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No Keep Up,

clown car….. If only in your mind, then maybe.

What there is for certain, is each liberal dressing up a scarecrow, calling it a conservative and arguing with it.

There isn’t even any sentience involved in what you are trying to do.

nB: I just want to say that I haven’t seen one racist-accusing comment today, and that the Jay Bookman blog is as civil and polite as I can ever remember it. (JamVet must be in a good mood too). Anyway, my hat is off to Bookman for whatever he may have done in improving the behavior of his fellow liberals.

The air seems a little cleaner today, though by objective standards, it is never very clear around liberals.

For what it’s worth, well done everyone.

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If you need sowell to do your thinking for you, politics is not your thing.

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“When public schools were first pushed, the private sector was doing a very good job of stepping up”

Sure…for those who could afford it. And in case you haven’t noticed, there are STILL private schools. Government stepped in where the private sector WOULD NOT. They did not shut down the private system, they just augmented it wil public schools.

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getalife

Paul is not a Republican to my knowledge.

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World Net Daily

Home of the birther articles

hahahahahahah

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Interesting you should cast a backward glance to Truman at a time when the slightest collateral damage in one of current wars is roundly condemned and grist for political attacks. Bush is considered by some to be a “war criminal” because civilians died in some of aerial and ground attacks in both wars, but Truman is a fondly remembered as one of our greatest presidents despite having killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.

I am not making any judgements, but only an observation. You can’t have it both ways or apply two standards.

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getalife

“What are you going to do with the radicals in your party when Americans keep electing them?”

Pray for evolution to work.

Quickly.

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And notice in the video that Obama say he believes in Democracy with a “small d”. I guess that means he actually believes that democracy should somehow be constrained and take a backseat to some leftist ideology of re-distribution. You know, let the people vote just as long as their vote doesn’t mean anything and the government has the last say. As I said, Obama is at the very least a far left socialist bordering on communist and his own words prove it. He actually comes off in this video sounding like that he believes America needs itself a leftist dictator of the South American persuasion. Look for this video to start flying in the next few days.

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Hi folks.

Been out of the loop today…did he make it through the day without a gaffe?

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For all you ;lovers of the VA Health system, As a Vietnam vet (607th MP’s Siagon 1968) I can testify from experience, it is crap! The Mds, in general, are poorly trained, undersupervised, and could care less about the patients. Medicines are in short supply and not always available when needed (I gave up years ago in getting my Lantus injectors for my insulin for them as they are always out). They have tried to substitute meds for my prescribed meds that my local Dr and friend has told my will be useless in the treatment of my BP and diabetes problems. I was told it would be 6 months before I could get a Steroid shot in my knee (My local Md got it for me the next day under my personal medical insurance). I don’t even bother to go to the VA anymore, I have NO confidence in them.
If you love it so much, may I suggest you go back and rent the old Jane Fonda movie (you know, the far right zelot, Hanoi Jane) called “Coming Home”. Very complimentary of the VA health System, and very true to life.

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If a video falls in the woods and no one is around, does it still make a sound?

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Jay

THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS

need Healthcare

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Anybody ever get some of that LASIK surgery for the ol’ eyeballs?

Goodness sakes, a few years ago, just after it became an approved procedure, it cost thousands!

Now it costs hundreds.

Gee, why is that?

Could it be that it isn’t typically covered by insurance? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

Eyeball Docs have to compete for the biz. So prices go down.

News to lib ilks here:

The free market works everywhere it’s tried.

Socialism never works anywhere it’s tried.

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How in the hell do you guys praise Obama for the healthcare bill when none of you know what’s in it ?

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Thanks Towncrier,
Astute and on-target. The VA has gotten better, but I finished my work as a civilian with the Air Force, and my private insurance has been excellent; the VA was not.

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I am always disgusted by flag desecration. Anyone see what O’bozo is doing to the stars and stripes?

https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-collections/artists-for-obama.html

Despicable!!!

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Sure, Sinkwich, but I’ll bet you’re going to bid on this, aren’t you?

http://tinyurl.com/8nfv4qq

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I am always disgusted by flag desecration. Anyone see what O’bozo is doing to the stars and stripes?

drudgey spam from mid day.

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Ol’ Jay Bookman still shillin’ for the Prez. Kind of sad, actually.

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Np video

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But Kammy,
Mine actually came with a diploma!

There are degrees for sock-puppetry?

Was your master’s thesis on Shari Lewis?

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“My experience with the health care gate keepers — the administrative staff — gainsays that claim.”

Health care is not really competitive right now – it has been operating more like a monopoly than anything. That’s the problem. Compare it to eye care. The government doesn’t have to take over running health care to fix that. Simple legislation should, in my view, be able to do the job. But I DO think there should be a mandate and/or waiver to ensure there are no freeloaders.

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Finally, Obama goes somewhere besides on Letterman or The View and gets challenged:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81470.html?hp=t1_3

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Heaven or Hell

While walking down the street one day a Corrupt
Senator (that may be redundant) was tragically
hit by a car and died.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
at the entrance.

“Welcome to heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before
you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We
seldom see a high official around these parts,
you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”

“No problem, just let me in,” says the Senator.

“Well, I’d like to, but I have orders from the
higher ups. What we’ll do is have you spend
one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you
can choose where to spend eternity.”

“Really?, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be
in heaven,” says the Senator.

“I’m sorry, but we have our rules.”

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the
elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

The doors open and he finds himself in the middle
of a green golf course.

In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in
front of it are all his friends and other politicians
who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress.
They run to greet him, shake his hand, and
reminisce about the good times they had while
getting rich at the expense of the people.

They played a friendly game of golf and then
dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very
friendly guy who is having a good time dancing
and telling jokes.

They are all having such a good time that before
the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves
while the elevator rises.

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens
In heaven where

St. Peter is waiting for him, “Now it’s time to visit
heaven…

So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a
group of contented souls moving from cloud to
cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours
have gone by and St. Peter returns.

“Well, then, you’ve spent a day in hell and another
in heaven. Now choose your eternity.”

The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers:
“Well, I would never have said it before, I mean
heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.”

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he
goes down, down, down to hell…

Now the doors of the elevator open and he’s in
the middle of a barren land covered with waste
and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking
up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls to the ground.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.

“I don’t understand,” stammers the Senator.
“Yesterday I was here and there was a golf
course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and
caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had
a great time. Now there’s just a wasteland full of
garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?”

The devil smiles at him and says,
“Yesterday we were campaigning,

Today, you voted..”

Vote wisely on
November 6, 2012

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No one is perfect. Truman is still one of the greatest presidents that this country has ever produced. A true leader with a plan who overcame enormous obstacles with the military by firing it’s most popular general, led whole recovery of Western Europe after the war and having the vision to integrate the military. Not sure how he would have felt about gays in the military service but that will have to wait for another day. David McCullough’s biography of Truman has to be one of the best reads of the century. His military record in WW1 was nothing short of amazing. And to top that, when he retired from the WH, he took a pension of $17,500/yr and refused free postage and also refused to give speeches for payment. Said it dirtied the image of the presidency. A true patriot like we have not had in some time. If Bozo could be half the man Truman was, he would be a genius.

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“Pray for evolution to work. Quickly.”

Pray to whom or what, then? A bust of Darwin?

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Towncrier

September 20th, 2012
7:11 pm

“Pray for evolution to work. Quickly.”

Pray to whom or what, then? A bust of Darwin?
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Boom baby. I don’t know who you quoted TC, but you busted them big time. Hilarious.

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“I’m always disgusted by people who denigrate our combat troops and the 2.9 MILLION combat veterans in this Country. YOU call them moochers.”

Nope.

Liar. <———- showing restraint.

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“Boom baby. I don’t know who you quoted TC, but you busted them big time. Hilarious.”

Well, Darwin couldn’t really reconcile his hypothesis with Christianity and I don’t know how anyone else can, either. Oil and water.

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Obama Supporter

September 20th, 2012
7:16 pm

We should take all of the money from the rich and give it to the poor people.
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On;y a completely ignorant fully indoctrinated neophyte of talk radio would post something so insipid……..

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F. Sinkwich

September 20th, 2012
7:15 pm

“I’m always disgusted by people who denigrate our combat troops and the 2.9 MILLION combat veterans in this Country. YOU call them moochers.”

Nope.

Liar. <———- showing restraint.
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Liar my ass you Military hating, disabled veteran hating asshat. Combat vets pay no taxes. Disabled vets pay no taxes. You call the 47% who pay no taxes moochers.

WHO IS THE LIAR? Why that would be you Stinkie. You call our combat troops and disabled/wounded vets MOOCHERS.

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Fred, 7:17,

I am really glad that this pisses you off. Did you say the same things about the Bush presidency as you do about Bozo? Was all this concern for the image of our president just as prevalent in 2006 as it it now? I doubt it. I am not demeaning the office, just the man. This arrogant buffoon is in the process of destroying the country as we know it. That might not make you up set but it sure as hell does me. And, not only that, you will probably vote for his sorry ass.

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Fred ™
September 20th, 2012
7:21 pm

Some folks may say that their combat service kinda “paid” for the right to not have to pay taxes.

So they aren’t moochers.

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“WHO IS THE LIAR? Why that would be you Stinkie. You call our combat troops and disabled/wounded vets MOOCHERS.”

Fred, never have. You are unhinged, just like most of the lib ilks on Jay’s blog.

Get some help.

You and Jammie could carpool.

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Marty Huggins’

September 20th, 2012
7:26 pm

Fred ™
September 20th, 2012
7:21 pm

Some folks may say that their combat service kinda “paid” for the right to not have to pay taxes.

So they aren’t moochers.
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Learn how to read and comprehend the written word. I’M not the one calling them moochers. Romney did. Talk radio hosts Neal Boortz, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, and Sean Hannity did. Stinkie did. Virtually every right wing poster the last several days here have called them moochers.

I’m a combat vet. Why would I call myself a moocher? You need to read more carefully there sport.

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“I saw how demeaning it was to us as a Country and I realized I was wrong in my “slick willy” thing.”

Good for you. Things look different when the shoe is on the other foot, huh?

“The truth is, no matter WHO gets elected he is MY President.”

Well, it may be more accurate to call him “our” president – that sidesteps the question of who voted for him.

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based on post here…ONCE GEORGIA THE HUB OF THE PROGRESSIVE SOUTH…NOW IN 2012 IT HAS BECOME STAGNANT AND AN CARBON COPY OF ITS NEIGHBORS ALABAMA/MISSISSIPPI/LOUISIANA…A RED STATE THATS FILLED WITH IGNORANCE AND A DUMB REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR…THE NEW PROGRESSIVE STATE OF THE SOUTH………………………………NORTH CAROLINA NOW A BATTLE GROUND STATE….AND ITS LARGEST CITY CHARLOTTE…..THE NEW IMAGE OF THE NEW SOUTH AND PROGRESIVNESS GAINING ON STAGNANT ATLANTA…………………..CHARLOTTE = WALL STREET SOUTH….ATLANTA =DETROIT DOWN SOUTH

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“Yesterday, Jay Bookman was trumpeting the “exoneration” of Eric Holder by his own IG who today says that the White House stonewalled on leads he wanted to pursue. Can Bookman have any less credibility?”

If you haven’t figured it out yet, Jay is a cheerleader for Obama and most things liberal. So his columns are almost always partisan. But, to be fair, in that respect he is no different from most of the conservative columnists.

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Mohammed wore pink tights.

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Time to kil something. LOL I think many of you here would benefit from the joys of playing Call of Duty, Black Ops……. hurry though, Black ops 2 is soon to be released…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo

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“Have they actually said the combat gets and disabled vets are moochers?”

Here’s the quote: “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn’t connect. So he’ll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean, that’s what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

Care to try to explain who he left out? Take a stab at it. You won’t be the first to try to “explain” when he “really” meant. But don’t let that deter you. It’s worth a shot.

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Fred, 7:33,

Never called a combat vet a moocher and never will. Calm down, Fred, it’s bad for your blood pressure. Combat vets are only combat vets when they are in combat. After that, they are like all the rest of us. If they are disabled, a certain portion of their pay is not taxed. That has nothing to do with being a moocher.

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Shame on him. The President of “The Buck Stops Here” (foreign concept to president kardashian) should have known better.

Concerning socialism, Rush has a great quote from Winston Churchill on his website today – “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” That sums it up pretty good. I am surprised Churchill did not straighten out Truman somewhere along the way.

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According to court documents filed as part of his 2009 divorce, Leder created a system for turning hundreds of millions of dollars in ordinary income into investments that would be taxed at a much lower rate.

Not to worry. Republicans claim it’s all legal.

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“That sums it up pretty good. I am surprised Churchill did not straighten out Truman somewhere along the way”

Churchill also said democracy was the worst form on government. Maybe he should have straightened Truman out on that too. (but here’s a hint: context is everything)

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“Care to try to explain who he left out? Take a stab at it. You won’t be the first to try to “explain” when he “really” meant. But don’t let that deter you. It’s worth a shot.”

Liberals are guilty of focusing on those making up that 47% who are not actually unfairly or wrongly dependent up on the government in perhaps an effort to ignore or draw attention away from those who are. I happen to know from first hand experience there are scores and scores of unmarried mothers of children from a number of fathers who are on the dole – plain and simple. THAT is who Romney is really talking about and liberals know it. So they deflect, as they are prone to do.

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Mohammed wore pink tights.

On the lighter side, Scout shows interest in color of men’s undergarments.

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I happen to know from first hand experience there are scores and scores of unmarried mothers of children from a number of fathers who are on the dole

Give me some names or stfu.

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“Give me some names or stfu.”

Sorry…not playing that stupid game with you. I really don’t care whether or not YOU believe me; it is easy enough to discover this is happening if you really want to know.

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Speaking of Churchill quotes, here’s ont that maybe someone should have taught Romney BEFORE he decided to run for President: “We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out”

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Mohammed sniffed glue.

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Thanks for the interesting 1949 AJ article, Jay.

Two things I noticed. The quality of the writing was so much better than what AJC churns out today. And the reporter just reported the facts without injecting his own op ed spin, something AJC and most media today can’t seem to resist.

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Finally! An honest Republican.

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I would tell you the truth but I hardly know any of you people. – Mitt

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I can tell you my plans just as soon as my workers have finished checking the room for hidden video recorders. – Mitt

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Our President should lead the debate by pulling out a 400 page folder and say,

These are mitt’s lies and flip flops.

I could not memorize all of them so brought them as notes.

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I want the biggest carbon foot print on the planet – Mitt

I wonder how many votes I’ve changed?

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 20th, 2012
8:03 pm

Mohammed was an Auburn fan.
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Best post you ever made Scout lol. there’s a REASON I always give your posts at least a glance……..

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I happen to know from first hand experience…

I happen to know from first hand experience the joys of a foursome with the Dahm triplets.

At a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Before my date with Morgan Fairchild.

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Health insurers must spend at least 85 percent of their premium dollars on healthcare (80 percent for smaller group plans) or rebate shortfalls to consumers. Any rebates incurred in 2011 must be paid during 2012. As of late June, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) reported that insurers have provided $1.1 billion in rebate relief to nearly 13 million Americans in 2012, with the rebates averaging more than $150 per family.

Ouch! How’s a corporation supposed to profit off the sick with rules like that!

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” I guess that means he actually believes that democracy should somehow be constrained ”

I guess you should stop guessing and actually listen to what he said.

BTW the “collective” is not now, nor has it ever been the exclusive property of Josef Stalin.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYiahoYfPGk&feature=related

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“scores of unmarried mothers of children from a number of fathers ”
OK, TC, try it this way and see how it sounds:

I know for a fact there are scores (oh, why stop there?. Make it tens of thousands) of children of unmarried mothers….

Ya got something against the kids, TC? They didn’t sign up for this.

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yuz: You’re about forty years too late for Karl, but you’ve got the right idea.

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As Crier stated in his 7:46, we are talking about those who suck off of the government tit. That doesn’t include combat veterans and you know it.

That’s from the white “I am not part of that 46%” album right? Track 3. Did you hit repeat so you can keep telling yourself that?

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That’s from the white “I am not part of that 46%” album right? Track 3. Did you hit repeat so you can keep telling yourself that?

And when played in reverse, it says, “Obama is the devil.”

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C’mon TC. The point is that there are undeserving people who subsist on government handouts.
I concur. I just don’t think they are exclusively (or even primarily) unmarried young women.

My question remains. The children of whom you are complaining are in this situation through no fault of their own. Would you favor cutting them off from public assistance? Yes or no.

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oldgy, there is no doubt that many GIs have gotten a raw deal in the VA system.

No system is perfect. Especially one that is gargantuan. It serves more than six million veterans via152 hospitals; 800 community based outpatient clinics; 126 nursing home care units; and 35 domiciliaries.

And in spite of your experience, the fact remains that it for countless veterans it has been top notch, Grade A, industrial strength, kickass health care.

The Gold Standard.

The VA offers the “gold standard” in surgical care, a model that is being adapted to the private sector, said Darrell Campbell Jr., M.D., at the University of Michigan

And I salute them every single time I drive past that hospital on Clairmont Avenue. I will never stop singing their praises. Never.

Thank you to the doctors, nurses, staff and volunteers – the best of the best! And a salute to General Shinseke, among many others, who have served us well.

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“That’s from the white “I am not part of that 46%” album right? Track 3. Did you hit repeat so you can keep telling yourself that?”

Tally for the evening: 1 Nazi accusation, 1 racist accusation and 0 logic.

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There were private schools for everyone before the government stepped in, and they were doing a good job. Once the government stepped in and preempted the field, this chsnged to only private schools for those who could afford to pay double. The government destroyed a working system of private schools for everyone.

Care to try to document that statement?

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“There were private schools for everyone”

got proof?

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Mohammed played with dolls.

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Towncrier ,
It’s always interesting to watch “Fred” devolve like a lower primate (you know, flinging sh$$ all around) when his lib logic meets facts. He is a coolaide by the gallon drinker and when all else fails he attacks the education/intelligence of whoever is his current target of scorn.
Taxpayer – You not counting that 630 Billion he is stealing from the trust fund to fund his OBcare? You pay Drs and hospitals less for their services and many (the ones who are good enough to make it on their own) are going to drop service to us Medicare patients; my Dr has already quit taking new Medicare/medicaid patients and he says he will have to quit providing medical services to those of us who are Medicare users if they lower his reimbursement. How is that “You can keep your current Dr” Obama quote.

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“”"”"”"”"The president is the representative of the whole nation and he’s the only lobbyist that all the one hundred and sixty million people in the country have.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
Harry S Truman quote

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But I do have first hand experience with this particular segment (I know someone who owns and rents a good number of houses to such women) so that is the example I used.

Whole Foods is now doing rental homes in Aisle 6.

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The school on Little House on the Prairie was a private school and it served everyone. The whole community pitched in and paid for a teacher based on what they could afford and it was all working just fine until Obama came along. Then the added cost of providing separate facilities and lunchrooms and wagon buses with back seats was just too much for the town so they abandoned the private school model and opted in to the public education system and it has been down hill ever since. Just ask any Republican and they’ll tell you it’s the truth.

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“”"”"”"”"”"If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog”"”"”"”"”"”"”
Harry S Truman quote

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Jam

It isn’t over, but the right is getting nervous.

For all this talk of the about how close it is, Obama is up more today than he was at this same time in 08………..

UH OH

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_vs_romney_compared_to_obama_vs_mccain.html

It is hilarious to hear the right talk about how great McCain and Palin did during the debates, but this was the very time frame that Obama sealed the deal on that weak ticket.

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“Monica Lewinsky is promising to reveal secret love letters to Bill Clinton and his penchant for kinky sex in a new tell-all about her days as his favorite intern.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/monica_on_bill_the_kink_and_a5gZIiDHRMxISyZvYcxsAI#ixzz273xEth49

Methinks Bill is hoping Hillary will take a trip to the Far, Far East for a Long, Long time.

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““Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.”
from Harry Truman

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“Whole Foods is now doing rental homes in Aisle 6.”

“My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that worked with a guy that knew someone who owns and rents a good number of houses to such women, too.”

Dumb, Democratic Deflection – or, as I like to call it, “triple dunce talk”.

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tdt?

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TC: I appreciate your response. But your “solution” involves destroying what little family structure these women have, and I suspect that you would not consider that a desirable outcome either. So unless you’re willing to forcibly break up families, how would you propose to give the children at least a minimum shot at breaking out of the cycle?

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Tc – thanks…i’ll look after the show…my dvr recorded it for me

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Dumb, Democratic Deflection – Richly deserved derisive mocking of a bullsh*t derivative story told almost thirty years ago by Reagan

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Keep

Yep.

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Mohammed rode girl’s bicycles.

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Gotta go…. little capitalist minds to wash in the morning. Daspidanya!

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Keep: I remember the exchange, but I don’t think it was TC.

Not under that name, no.

It’s how we keep track of the various sock-puppets people use.

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Hell. One thing we ain’t got in ‘merica is socialists. Heck, I doubt even them 47%ers are socialists.

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Mick

Apparently he is showing is good Christian side.

Jesus would be proud for sure

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Hiya Keep!! I know, I know………

FACTS are cons Kryptonite…………..

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“But your “solution” involves destroying what little family structure these women have, and I suspect that you would not consider that a desirable outcome either. So unless you’re willing to forcibly break up families, how would you propose to give the children at least a minimum shot at breaking out of the cycle?”

I don’t so much have THE solution as I have an understanding that there is a problem that needs to be resolved – and not ignored with people throwing up their hands in defeat. I am an engineer by profession and engineers solve problems – not run away from them or let them persist year after year, decade after decade.

I can tell you that there is a lot of partying, drinking, promiscuity and keeping up with the Jones’ (in terms of large screen HD televisions, cell phones, music systems and the like) in these homes. There isn’t much of a family structure there to begin with. So maybe the government could start by checking in on these recipients at their homes and demanding some kind of responsibility and accountability. Drug testing was a first step towards this in some states. It had a LOT of opposition (go figure) from some quarters.

On your side, if liberals are unwilling to take some strong steps to correct the problem, then it only proves they are not serious about solving it.

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That’s probably the one thing we can all agree on, out of afghanistan – tomorrow!

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So Townie, have you reported your “landlord friend” to the authorities yet for aiding and abetting these frauds?

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1) “Isn’t that part of the problem in this world today, disparaging someone else’s prophet or diety???”

Only for Islam ……….. the rest of us just shrug our shoulders and move on.

2) “Apparently he is showing is good Christian side. Jesus would be proud for sure”

“You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good ………… ?” Matthew 12:34

The above was said to the religious rulers of His day.

He called ‘em like He saw ‘em !

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My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knew someone who was an engineer by profession.

He walked 15 miles to Ga. Tech barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways, 365 days a year to earn his degree.

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“So Townie, have you reported your “landlord friend” to the authorities yet for aiding and abetting these frauds?”

Dumb, Democratic Deflection.

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scout: He claims there was a “night and day” difference in policy, including the Obama administration directive that U.S. troops not carry live ammunition.

LIES. Dudley just CAME from Afghanistan and is home on “leave”. I asked him if that was true, and he told me that only an incredibly ignorant person would believe something as stupid as that.

I’m going to tell Dudley to call you. YOu seem to fit the bill.

Keep – Yep — it seems that scout doesn’t want to talk to me when I pull out stuff that has real life links to it that refute the crap he cuts and pastes, (without links — 99% of the time).

But, i bet he’ll email Jay to tell him how “mean” i’m being to him…….

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“Debbie: What’s your point?”

A question for the ages. You’ll be spending two days getting to that, Scout.

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Dudley? Dudly who?

M.O.S. ?

SEAL?

P.S.

If you notice I said, “one man’s opinion” but worth the read.

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Towncrier:

Maybe they struggled over the gun and maybe they didn’t. I don’t know.

What I do know is that if someone has me down on the ground and is pounding my head into the pavement and I can get to my gun ……………. well …………. case closed cleared (as we used to say
in the business).

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Going to watch some football …………. everyone be nice to other posters.

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**everyone be nice to other posters.**

What exactly does that mean? Like not incendiary?

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pounding my head into the pavement

Hmmm… assuming facts not in evidence.

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“The parallels with today’s debate on health care are uncanny, missing only a reference to Marxist anti-colonial Kenyans out to destroy this country from within.”

Well its missing a couple other references also. Looks like you left out that Florida Dem Congressman’s reference to the GOP health plan that “the Republican plan is for seniors to die, die, die”. And of course who can forget the reference to Paul Ryan pushing Granny off a cliff regarding Medicare.

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Mick

That is his MO at times. Drops some BS that he knows he can’t substantiate but he willingly brainwashes himself with, then leave before being challenged on that bs.

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“Monica Lewinsky is promising to reveal secret love letters to Bill Clinton and his penchant for kinky sex in a new tell-all about her days as his favorite intern.”

That won’t faze a liberal one bit – some like DDR say we shouldn’t care who (or what) the POTUS sleeps with (even if he is married with children) and how many times he does it. He is not dishonoring his position as world leader by having sex and committing adultery in the Oval Office with a woman who could be his daughter. There is no chance of blackmail in such cases. Shoot, he may have let the dog hump his leg for all DDR cares. NO BIG DEAL. But let a candidate for office not release 10 years of tax returns and THEN (in her twisted mind) he is not acting “above reproach”. And you thought to ask her if she had a point? I bet you won’t do it again.

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TC

You cry about liberals, but I see ole Vitter from LA, Mr “I love to visit Houses of Ill repute” was reelected and still in office.

Were those liberals who voted him in?

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Scout,

When my brother was in Iraq the big issue he had was with the pay and the greed of the Iraqi officers. At first we would pay the officers and they would then disburse payments to the Iraqi enlisted men. When it was found out that the Iraqi officers were keeping most of the money and paying the enlisted men a pittance the U.S. officers had to step in directly and pay the officers and then pay the enlisted men their due wages to make damn sure they got paid. I still have some hope for the Iraqis allthough they are still a bunch of backward ass folk but as for the Afghans there is no hope for their sort of backwardess. Those folks are beyond help.

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“There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter – from the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence … I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing.”

Daniel Webster

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cat, yes, a very good program.

A primer and must watch for any and all Christian fools who think that they are somehow qualified to define who is a Jew and who isn’t.

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“What exactly does that mean? Like not incendiary?”

Has Mohammed been posting on here ???

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P.S.

If he does ………. be nice to him ………. he’s a “poster”.

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“You cry about liberals, but I see ole Vitter from LA, Mr “I love to visit Houses of Ill repute” was reelected and still in office.”

Most of the Republicans involved in sexual trysts have left office (or never get elected initially or again – as with Cain and Gingrich). There are always exceptions. The point is this: no one excuses them. Democratic leaders arguably have a MUCH worse “record” in this area (JFK, LBJ, Clinton, etc.) and people like DDR EXCUSE their behavior as if it were nothing. That is both problematic and disturbing.

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Most of the Republicans involved in sexual trysts have left office (or never get elected initially or again – as with Cain and Gingrich). There are always exceptions. The point is this: no one excuses them

Not intended to be a factual statement.

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BOTH:

I said, “one man’s opinion” when I posted that. I am NOT going to call him a liar.

I know from my own experience in Nam that there were some pretty STUPID (and life threatening) orders that were given (sometimes in writing but most often verbal).

For example ………. both sides agreed to a 24 hour “Christmas Truce” (1967). I was at a very forward firebase near the DMZ. They blasted the hell out of us and we were ordered not to respond.

So ……………. if someone tells me they were ordered not to put a magazine in their weapon or chamber a round or whatever ……….. I will believe them until it is proven otherwise.

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I think Miss Lewinsky’s writing about Clinton is just plain crappy. But if she does she should at least give the book a good name. “Bill’s freakshow” would be a good title.

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German health care, my “poll”.

I most recently lived in Candler Park (Atl).
I frequently ran into homies in Va-Highlands, d/town and Buckhead.
I always tried soliciting their opinion of their high taxes and their soc med.
I stopped doing that……I kept getting the same opinions….everyone…100%
liked their “free” health care. Of course, they knew it wasn’t free…but they had
freedom from worry.

my 2 farthings, from the Tundra

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0311

OK, ok, play your little games but just remember that we are both part of this hypocrisy but never, never think it applies to my family…

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“OK, ok, play your little games but just remember that we are both part of this hypocrisy but never, never think it applies to my family…”

Translation: I have no good comeback.

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Gee the republican senators are upset, I’m shocked…

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Is that any different than a bunch of Jewish fools seemingly qualified to define what a Christian is and who isn’t?

And who is this bunch of Jewish fools you speak of?

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P.S.

I think it’s time that Radical Muslims hear nothing but negative comments about Mohammed, cartoons, videos, etc., etc.

It will help to desensitize them and bring them into the modern world from their era of darkness.

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One man’s opinion about “facts” – just a blue dress stain
Homie special — aisle 7 at the Whole Foods
“Free healthcare” — priceless

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Mick: LOL !

BOTH: You’re repeating yourself.

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Christians, hebrews, muslims all pray to the one true god; you mock one, you mock them all…

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Mr “I love to visit Houses of Ill repute”

oooo – scarrrrrry socially liberal Republicans…..

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Mohammed lived in the desert. I’m sure of it.

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Bondage clubs.

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But like you said she (Monica) is just itching to cash in.

Wonder if she has a stake in Monica’s Bar, in Thailand…….
they specialize in…uno wat….

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TBS – what bothers me so much about scout, besides his lying and castigating, is his supposed “Christianity”. He has no problem “baring false witness against his neighbor”. As a matter of fact, looking at his posts, he gets hard just THINKING about doing it.

TC: some like DDR say we shouldn’t care who (or what) the POTUS sleeps with (blah, blah, blah blah…………….let a candidate for office not release 10 years of tax returns and THEN (in her twisted mind) he is not acting “above reproach”.

Hiya TC!! Yep you are sooo right!! Sleeping with someone is so much WORSE than not showing your tax returns when you wish to attain the highest office in the land……..these two things are sooo similar

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Toe tapper.

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Serious question:

Do Muslim play football ? What about the pigskin?

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Excuse me: “Muslims”

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“Bondage clubs.”

Republicans who like to party, I dig it.

“Toe tapper.”

Gay republicans are ok by me. Big tent.

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BOTH:

I am sure we have all posted something on here that turned out to be false.

Does that make “you” a liar? Or only if you “knew” it was false?

I choose not to call that SEAL a “liar” ……….. and again, that’s why I posted “one man’s opinion”.

Get over it ……………. or not.

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“scarrrrrry socially liberal Republicans…..”

I doubt he is “liberal”. I am confident that he sells himself to his flock of sheep as a conservative social Republican and Christian man

But nice try

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How did that “edited” video work out for you? You were the confident little tyke yesterday.

hahahahaha

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“And who is this bunch of Jewish fools you speak of?”

I don’t know about a “bunch” of “fools”, but you in fact attempted to define what a Christian is the other day:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/09/19/romney-obama-and-the-politics-of-redistribution/?cp=5#comment-1081726

Notice I didn’t call you a “fool” for speaking your mind on the matter (as you did me when I said I thought American secular Jews were not really Jews – and have all along since then); I just showed you why I believed you were wrong.

Medved makes an interesting point about Jews accepting any of their kind EXCEPT a Christian Jew – now THAT is NOT a Jew. If he is correct and Christian Jews are not regarded as Jews, then I feel perfectly justified in drawing a line where I see logically fit (since a line is being drawn anyway). You may not agree with me, but at least I have a more sensible argument that the Jews Medved speaks of.

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“It will help to desensitize them and bring them into the modern world from their era of darkness.”

From what I’ve seen you can take the most dirt poor and most ignorant people on Earth from Latin American, Asia, and Africa and put them in the U.S. and they can be successful, prosper, and get along. I’ve no faith whatsoever in these hateful middle Easterners joining the modern world. None. And I think their failures to assimilate in Europe prove it. The only thing they are good for over there is blowing up train stations and rioting in the streets.

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“Christians, hebrews, muslims all pray to the one true god; you mock one, you mock them all…”

Bible beating democrats. Sick. Forcing their monotheism on the multi-theists.

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Islam has over a billion followers on this earth; the fact is that 99.99 of them are peaceful people. They have failed to corral and thoroughly reject their renegades, that’s the problem…

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“Democrats just want to control a guy’s pecker. It’s absurd”

Sounds like a fair trade to me. Republican’s just want to control a woman’s uterus. It’s absurd.

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“Islam has over a billion followers on this earth; the fact is that 99.99 of them are peaceful people.”

Generalization. Democrats like Mick think muslims are just one type of person.

Democrats are so single-dimensional.

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jm

Get a grip…is it really that bad???

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Mick,

I see what you’re saying and I used to believe the same thing. But keep in mind that the Koran is wholly different from the torah or the bible. The God of the Koran I don’t think is quite the same as the God in the bible. If he were Christians would probably use the same justifications of God to blow shyte up every time they’re pissed off.

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…when I said I thought American secular Jews were not really Jews…

And why rabbis and even moderately informed people of all races, creeds and religions would agree that you are a complete fool for writing that.

Or as Crash said in Bill Durham, “Don’t think meat, it can only hurt the club.”

LOL…

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jm,

Pro women?

Are you sure you are not a Dem?

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scout: I am sure we have all posted something on here that turned out to be false. Does that make “you” a liar? Or only if you “knew” it was false? I choose not to call that SEAL a “liar” ……….. and again, that’s why I posted “one man’s opinion”

YES — YOU ARE A LIAR. You knew before you posted that crap that it was a lie; yet you posted it ANYWAY — with glee. Why? You did it to discredit Pres Obama; you did it to bare FALSE WITNESS; then after you did, you quoted a nice quaint bible verse.

People like you stain the name of jesus and stain the true christians with your deceit and lies.

Perhaps you can dig up a bible verse to answer to that ^^^.

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BOTH:

I’m over it and “you”.

Mick:

You are on the right track but you are WAY off on the 99.99%

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“But keep in mind that the Koran is wholly different from the torah or the bible. The God of the Koran I don’t think is quite the same as the God in the bible.”

That is a fact. I would encourage everyone to read the Koran and then, maybe for the purposes of comparison, a one of the gospels, Acts and a letter like Romans or James. Then come beack and tell us what you think.

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“you did it to bare FALSE WITNESS”

Nothing worse than a bible thumping Democrat.

Kill some babies – ok. You lied – go to hell.

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“The first debate will put him away.”

We’ll see. I’m sure will be batting it around on here whenever it is.

say. when is it? google……

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Mick,

I’m not buying that 99.99%. That 99.99% may not wage terrorist bombings against us but there is no doubt that they don’t like us and are against us in principle. When Pakistan announces that tomorrow is a national holiday so that the entire nation can protest against us please don’t give me this crap that 99.99% of them are friendly to us or even tolerant of us. They are not.

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Oct 3 – round 1. 2 weeks.

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“I’m not buying that 99.99%.”

Gallup has a poll. Says it is 47%. 6% undecided.

47% is the answer to everything now.

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DDR

From Dilbert’s rules of order: Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

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scout – this one would probably be more appropriate (for you):

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour

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“You are forgetting some history here, christianity in the dark ages was burning witches at the stake and had the inquisition, not exactly brotherly love going on there…”

Mick,

All true. But we’re not in the year 1300. What happened many centuries ago I don’t give a damn about. It has nothing to do with the here and now. If we all spent our lives engaging in recriminations about shyte that happened 8 centuries ago then how would humans ever progress. Ahkmed and Akbar are still pissed at each other because akbar’s great great grandfather from 40 generations ago stole a goat from Akhemd’s great great grandfather. What relevance does that have to do with anything today?

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“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour”

Apparently democrats have become less reserved about their religion.

I never trust those that talk religion constantly.

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0311

Is this you?

Incendiary means “capable of causing fire”. It may also refer to: Incendiary device, a device designed to cause fires; Incendiary ammunition, a projectile …

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**What relevance does that have to do with anything today?**

Well, mohammed came on the scene in 700 ad, so by historic terms they are in the middle ages or dark ages of their religion. You know all these religions have some dark time…

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DDR

To cheer you up, a great joke here.

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Mick,

What I am saying is that .01% of them are engaged in the actual terrorist bombings. But the number of them who sympathize with their actions and are generally supportive of them and are anti U.S. is staggering. Look at the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt which is now possibly the most powerful group in the nation. Do you honestly think this organization which is virulently anti_American got to hold that much power and influence because of .01% of the population? Now do you see what I’m saying?

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Mick,

I’m not sure where Islam went wrong but do you realize that at one time they were far more advanced then us Christian based Europeans? While Europe was dirty, filthy, ignorant, and backwards during the Middle or dark ages the Arabs and Muslims were prospering. They were tolerant and far advanced in algebra, astronomy, basically in the math and sciences. We were the backward asses. Where they went wrong I don’t know but they did.

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Sign – “Jump You F***(kers!!”

oh Kam too funny!!! You made my night!

Seen on the website’s link:

Willard: Okay, I’ll think about money.

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doom

Isolationism or at least a good dose of it is needed so everyone can just cool off and go about making money. I’ve been over there and they loves to barter and make money. It’s always the uneducated mobs that have nothing better to do causing all these problems. Al queda is a losing proposition, they keep getting blown up. Everybody minding their own counties business might help…

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“You are forgetting some history here, christianity in the dark ages was burning witches at the stake and had the inquisition, not exactly brotherly love going on there…”

And I think, Mick, you are failing to realize that “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21). It should be patently obvious that military crusades, inquistions, burnings at the stake, big opulent buildings, millionaire preachers and the like are not really representative of God’s will in the NT.

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“Hard to believe that they have now somehow twisted not releasing 10 years of tax returns into some kind of an immoral act or crime. Bizarre.”

It is really, really hard for me to wrap my brain around the possibility that someone actually believes that not releasing ten years of tax returns is not being “above reproach” while committing adultery in your place of work with a woman a little older than your daughter (with the risk of blackmail) is NO BIG DEAL. I am stunned and have been for two days.

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Why hasn’t obama released 20 years of tax returns?

What a crook.

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“those uneducated mobs are the majority of the population”

I’m so tired of discussing the democratic party

So lights out

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“William, you are so blind and so incredibly foolish that you think that YOU are the arbiter of these matters and NOT the Torah and Talmud. Nor the countless rabbis who have studied, pondered and considered this very question for hundred and hundreds of years.”

First of all, genius, anyone has the right to reason and make judgements about things – as you demonstrated when you (ironically and now – in the face of your continued insistence otherwise – hypocritically) presumed to define what a Christian is (need that link to your post again?). I never said I was THE arbiter of who was and was not a Jew. Indeed, I do NOT run a certification organization for Jews – got it? I expressed by belief and it upset you. Too bad.

I will bet top dollar I know the Torah a whole better than you do. The Torah stipulates a lot of requirements that are not even close to being observed by most Jews today – especially in America. For instance, it says that you must, as a male, be circumcised on the 8th day in order to enter into a covenantal relationship with God. While most Jews – secular or not – unthinkingly observe this practice, some have not (http://www.npr.org/2012/08/22/159807599/some-israeli-parents-rethink-ritual-circumcision.).

The Talmud is a collection of teachings based upon the Torah which are mere extrapolations that may or may not be correct in their interpretation or application of the Torah. These kind of secondary, supplemental writings occur in almost every religion and to me don’t amount to much of anything. But that is another subject

“It is truly beyond belief that you are actually doubling down on your stupid.”

Mirror, mirror on the wall….

“It is almost pathetic to watch you as you have desperately scrambled around the Internet over the past week to learn a few things about Judaism and Jewish scholars.”

Huh? I don’t require Jewish “scholars” to back me up. My conclusion is a logical deduction from my knowledge of the Torah. Secular Jews are make little no attempt to observe the Torah itself (except possibly income coincidental way) and so the Torah would say they should be “cut off”.

Since before we even had the debate at hand we were discussing the reason for the liberalism of Jews, I thought the other day to look into this question for the first time. And I presented you with one of the articles I found. You, stupidly, thought I was “scrambling” around somehow to defend my position. I don’t need to do that. I can simply read the Torah as it stands, unchanged for thousands of years, and figure out who is real Jew and who isn’t. And secular Jews don’t make the cut. It is that simple. They are biologically Jews, but that is like saying you have something in common with your sperm donor father you have never met.

“You are no intellectual.”

Of course not. Again, no one on this blog is.

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sanitariam said smart people will never be on his side.

After reading blogs for a decade, I have to agree.

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