GOP strategists cannot like what they’re seeing
So this is what it looks like on Sept. 20, 2012, 47 days to the election that Newt Gingrich kept calling the most consequential since 1860:
In the presidential race, Mitt Romney remains neck and neck with Barack Obama in both the Rasmussen and Gallup tracking polls, with most of Obama’s post-convention bounce eroding. Other recent polls, however, show Obama building a significant lead. The latest Pew poll puts Obama up eight points; the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll puts him up five.
But Romney’s real problems show up at the state level. In the swing states that he has to have — Ohio, Virginia, Florida — poll after poll shows his situation deteriorating significantly. At a point in the campaign where he has to be shrinking the margin, the margin is growing. Fox puts Romney down seven in Ohio, down five in Florida and down seven in Virginia.
Republican hopes to take the Senate, a goal the party once deemed a near certainty, seem to be collapsing as well. In state after state, the numbers are turning. Massachusetts, Florida, Virginia, Connecticut, Ohio, Wisconsin — in every crucial state in which fresh numbers are available, the tide is strongly Democratic. Last night in red Arizona, a new poll put Democrat Richard Carmona up by five over U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, the first lead Carmona has enjoyed. Other polls will be needed to confirm that switch, but back in June, Rasmussen gave Flake a seemingly insurmountable 16-point lead.
“I’m not one for hyperbole,” Nate Silver of Fivethirtyeight tweeted last night. “But GOP Senate map is imploding. Chance of a takeover now just 21%.”
Most if not all of these numbers were generated before release of the video of Mitt Romney speaking a little too candidly to a roomful of donors. But GOP candidates all over the country are explicitly rejecting those remarks, running from them like Japanese villagers fleeing Godzilla. In Washington yesterday, Senate Republican leaders abandoned the microphones rather than take questions on the subject. (Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative National Review, has an admirably frank analysis of Romney’s distorted mindset at Politico.)
Even if you don’t put much credence in poll numbers, watch and listen to the Republican political professionals. If you don’t believe it, they do. Some are already in blame-shifting or recrimination mode, or trying to tamp down panic. Their internal polls are apparently telling them what the public polls are telling the rest of us. They also understand that if this turns out to be what it looks like — a broad and significant shift toward Democrats — Democratic control of the House, once considered little more than a far-fetched dream by party leaders, could — I stress could — become a possibility.
On the GOP side of the ledger, 47 days is a long time in politics, and Romney still has three debates against Obama in which to turn things around. He has a lot of money yet to spend, both in his own campaign coffers and through “independent” campaigns funded by wealthy conservatives. Outside events could also intervene. (However, his ham-handed approach to events in Egypt and Libya don’t inspire confidence in his ability to turn that to his advantage, should it occur.)
Finally, electoral waves that build too early have a way of cresting and receding by the time Election Day comes around. So it ain’t over, not for a while yet.
But something does seem to be going on out there.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
September 20th, 2012
12:27 pm
Geaux Dawgs!
Beat Alabama.
gm
September 20th, 2012
12:27 pm
With the stock market at all time high, is that redistribution? once again the rep voted against another Veterans bill, yet these right wing job run around saying how much they love this country.
Aquagirl
September 20th, 2012
12:27 pm
if Area 51 makes it into his dance video all can be forgiven. With a guest appearance by Michelle Bachman.
Headline: “MICHELLE BACHMANN AREA 51’s HERSELF”
That’ll bump traffic on the gooey Drudgeness.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:28 pm
Aww, Samantha, always there with the big pick-me-up speech. Hehehehehe.
Have you considered I recognize that this election is one of a choice between two visions, one that has bankrupted our future and wants to double-down on that vision and one that is willing to compromise to get a better future back? Maybe you don’t see it that way, but that’s your fault, not mine.
Name-call all you want, it just makes you look sillier and angrier.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 20th, 2012
12:29 pm
If he can’t be held accountable then he should vacate the office.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
Who did you hold accountable for that canard?
USMC
September 20th, 2012
12:30 pm
“Look at it this way, he saw he was on the Titanic and decided to leave before it hit the iceberg…”–Normal
Well you have a good point there Normal.
Now Amvet doesn’t have to become a Rabbi!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 20th, 2012
12:32 pm
“Fake Ben Franklin quotes are funny” — Thomas Jefferson
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:33 pm
If he can’t be held accountable then he should vacate the office.
Translation: my candidate is so weak, my only hope is that your candidate resigns first.
Get Real
September 20th, 2012
12:33 pm
It will be a dark day if Obama is re-elected; even on liberal Letterman, Obama could not even tell him the level of the national debt….unfriggin believable…yet people are voting for him because he is Kool…
Steve Shamrock
September 20th, 2012
12:33 pm
BOOOMMM
Forbes – Pew Research finds that sixty percent of Americans respond negatively to “socialism.” It is clear why President Barack Obama must avoid that label. Words are important. Political candidates who control the language of political discourse win elections.
Most of our elites would certainly not entertain the question: “Is Obama a socialist?” Only irresponsible fanatics carelessly throw around such epithets, they say. Polite circles ignore such goofiness.
As someone who has professionally studied and written about comparative economics, capitalism, and socialism for almost fifty years, the reticence to probe the core beliefs of a political leader seems odd. The question is perfectly legitimate in both an academic and political context as long as we define terms and place the discussion in proper context.
By “socialist,” I do not mean a Lenin, Castro, or Mao, but whether Obama falls within the mainstream of contemporary socialism as represented, for example, by Germany’s Social Democrats, French Socialists, or Spain’s socialist-workers party?
By this criterion, yes, Obama is a socialist.
The socialist parties of Europe trace their origins to reform Marxism. After Marx’s death in 1883, Europe’s Marxists rejected the Bolsheviks’ call for socialist revolution and worked within the political system for Marxist goals. Marxists, such as Karl Leibknecht, August Bebel, Paul Lafargue, Leon Blum, and others, formed the socialist parties that we know today. Most emerged from the trade-union movement, and they retain close ties with organized labor today, as does Obama’s Democrat Party.
Whereas, the eighteenth century liberalism of John Locke and Adam Smith gave us our constitution and limited government, Marxism provided the intellectual foundations of the European welfare state.
The European socialists have their welfare state. Even their conservative opponents no longer question the “social state,” despite rising concern about its affordability. In the United States, we are fighting the battle of the welfare state, and we do not know what the outcome will be.
The European welfare state takes one half of national output to provide state health care, pensions, extended unemployment benefits, income grants, and free higher education. Failed nationalizations taught European socialists to leave enterprise in private hands and coerce it through taxation and regulation to contribute to what the state deems the “social welfare.”
The November 2011 Declaration of Principles of the Party of European Socialists (PES) summarizes the European socialist agenda. I condense its main points and compare them with Obama’s statements and legislative initiatives:
PES: The welfare state and state-provided universal access to education and health care are society’s great achievements.
Obama: Favors universal access to health care and associated benefits as a critical expansion of the welfare state.
Adam
September 20th, 2012
12:34 pm
JKL2: (Quoting me) And equal opportunity means everyone gets an education, food, shelter, and all of the things necessary to make them have equal footing with their peers in the job market
ROFL! Please come back from liberal fantasy land and join us in the real world.
Life has winners and losers.
Republicans – NOT for Equal Opportunity. I rest my case.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:34 pm
Funny tweet:
6 “Fast & Furious” movies… why is no one resigning over that?
Brosephus™
September 20th, 2012
12:35 pm
Geaux Dawgs!
Beat Alabama.
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will sweep all 50 states before that happens.
Just sayin’
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:35 pm
Jeez, shamrock, can’t you get your own thoughts instead of cutting-and-pasting someone else’s without attribution?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 20th, 2012
12:35 pm
“Fake Ben Franklin quotes are funny” — Thomas Jefferson
“Well, I have a source that confirms that he did say that, and even if he didn’t, it’s still true”
– John Galt
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 20th, 2012
12:35 pm
When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.
There is no evidence that Franklin ever actually said or wrote this, but it’s remarkably similar a quote often attributed, without proper sourcing, to Alexis de Tocqueville and Alexander Fraser Tytler:
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
So if you go to the original form, it would seem that Mitts promise to cut taxes and perform miracle debt reduction and balanced budgets is the threat that the quote warns us about Thanks for playing JLK
UNCLE SAMANTHA
September 20th, 2012
12:36 pm
getalife
neither one
they both vote for the PLUTONOMY
but they both claim to represent and protect the middle class………. when in actuality all they do is to keep going the plutonomy so those in wealth and power STAY THERE
the democrats bash wall street yet all those companies still made billions of dollars and gave out millions in bonuses while the middle class lost jobs and money but get this STILL HAD TO BAILOUT WALLSTREET AND THE BANKS ON THE MIDDLECLASS DIME
both parties have divided the country into fractions that get on blogs and bash each other while nothing really changes and the wealthy and powerful keep their wealth and power while the middle class either celebrates their party’s victory or plans for the next election so their party can regain power…………. yet everything stays the same
its a great system they have set up
it distracts the middle class from making the structural changes needed to help
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 20th, 2012
12:36 pm
SoCoBro: My position all along is that we need a hybrid system.
Check out the big brains on the Boy From Bama!!
He must be an aberration!
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
12:37 pm
KatyWatts — “I’m voting for Romney not because of those “pesky social values” you sneared about in your diatribe. I am pro-choice. I think that Ellen DeGeneres and Portia DeRossi are one of the classiest couples in Hollywood. I love that I can buy beer on Sunday. But what you socialists don’t get is that Obama is spending this country into bankruptcy.”
I give this concern troll a C-minus. “She” uses a few buzzwords without appearing to have any understanding of what they actually mean. And bringing up Ellen Degeneres was SO ten-years-ago.
You’re going to have to be more conscientious about doing your troll homework if you ever want to be more than a common, everyday nuisance and raise yourself to the Bill Orvis White or Ragnar level of trollery.
Steve Shamrock
September 20th, 2012
12:37 pm
BOOOOOOOMMM #2
“If the Party of European Socialists were to rate Obama, he would get a near perfect score. The political views and programs that Obama is prepared to reveal to the public are consistent with those of European socialists. He is clearly a socialist in the European sense of the term.”
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 20th, 2012
12:37 pm
Once again Obama’s number are fantasy….read the reality
Health Care Tax Penalty To Hit Nearly 6 Million Uninsured People
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/health-care-tax-penalty_n_1898005.html?utm_hp_ref=business&icid=maing-grid7|maing6|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D208152
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Adam
September 20th, 2012
12:37 pm
So if Obama wants to even approach Germany’s welfare state as it currently exists under AUSTERITY measures, he’s a socialist.
That is f*cking stupid.
Yes, he wants people to have a decent chance at survival and a decent chance at making it higher to the top. But does he want government control of the private market? Evidence suggests not.
Is socialism just anyone who wants taxes to be at a reasonable level so we can pay for BOTH defense AND social programs?
Madmax
September 20th, 2012
12:37 pm
lord….
No, the “see no evil, hear no evil” monkeys think that blaming Bush for everything will divert attention away from his dismal performance and that if they shout over everybody who disagrees with them they feel they have protected their “ruler”. It’s amazing, if you believed everything they say here, the man is a supposed god. JFK had spots, Reagan had spots, MLK had spots, but Barack Obama is spotless. HST said it right “the buck stops here!”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 20th, 2012
12:39 pm
And how do we know he is a socialist? …..
Adam
September 20th, 2012
12:39 pm
Health Care Tax Penalty To Hit Nearly 6 Million Uninsured People
Again:
6 million is less than 2% of the U.S. population, or, in layman-speak, WHAT WE TOLD YOU ALREADY.
Each of those 6 million ALSO can afford the tax. They are not in the poorer groups that would get subsidies.
If, for whatever reason, 6 million IS more than we thought, then guess what? MORE DEFICIT REDUCTION.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 20th, 2012
12:41 pm
“The numbers from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office are 50 percent higher than a previous projection by the same office in 2010, shortly after the law passed.”
Libs “but..but…but the CBO is never wrong”.
Most affected by this? The middle class.
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Adam
September 20th, 2012
12:41 pm
Headline: Michelle Bachmann reveals she was “born” at Area 51
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
12:41 pm
ByteMe — “Jeez, shamrock, can’t you get your own thoughts instead of cutting-and-pasting someone else’s without attribution?”
Shamrock wouldn’t know an actual Socialist if Bernie Sanders himself came up and bit him on the azz.
buzzy
September 20th, 2012
12:42 pm
Yes, Romney has stumbled, but Democrats must still get out an vote on election day.
Also, remember, Obama is out of practice on doing debates, but Romney just went through a year of debates during the Republican primaries.
The Democrats should not get over confident. The most important thing is to get out and vote, and get your friends to vote.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 20th, 2012
12:42 pm
And how do we know he is a socialist? …..
HE LOOKS LIKE ONE!
moonbat betty (I got the crabs from Bookman's blog)
September 20th, 2012
12:42 pm
Heck yeah the strategist like what they see.
With the awesome job performance from Obama the last 4 years and it’s still this close against an old pasty white a-hole money/job stealer?
Set the bar high, dems.
Adam
September 20th, 2012
12:42 pm
Steve-USA: Libs “but..but…but the CBO is never wrong”.
Conservatives: AHA! I have you NOW! The CBO said it was less, NOW the same office says it’s more! CBO is always wrong!
Wait, what?
Partisay
September 20th, 2012
12:43 pm
Get Real – yet people are voting for him because he is Kool…
You mean kinka like W? The one that put us in two wars AND gave a tax cut at the same time? Hey, he got us going down this rocky road but that’s OK…cause after all, he’s the type a man can sit down and have a beer with!!!!!
Lord Help Us
September 20th, 2012
12:44 pm
‘JFK had spots, Reagan had spots, MLK had spots, but Barack Obama is spotless. ‘
Dude, you left out Clenis…I hear (from Monica) he had a ’spot.’
Brosephus™
September 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
Check out the big brains on the Boy From Bama!!
He must be an aberration!
Hey, we are not all mindless sheep over there. Some of us are quite capable of logical thought. That, and big boys have big brains.
USMC
September 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
“Headline: Michelle Bachmann reveals she was “born” at Area 51″
That’s one fine Martian!
You ever seen her choke down a CornDawg??
Madmax
September 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
lord
Clinton was too obvious
buzzy
September 20th, 2012
12:45 pm
Look, if Romney can’t run his campaign, he probably can’t run the country.
The Republicans picked another dud, Im afraid.
Don’t get over-confident Dems. Vote.
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
12:46 pm
Geez…here we go again with polls – Jay’s most fruitful heuristic garden. Psst…did you know the US Embassy in Pakistan is now the most recent US outpost under siege?
=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/09/2012920134020247511.html
“In the presidential race, Mitt Romney remains neck and neck with Barack Obama in both the Rasmussen and Gallup tracking polls, with most of Obama’s post-convention bounce eroding.
Thanks for that concession, Jay, and that would be ALL of Obama’s post-convention bounce eroding.
“Other recent polls, however, show Obama building a significant lead. The latest Pew poll puts Obama up eight points; the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll puts him up five.”
For those of you loathe to bet your house or, unlike Jay, base your career on polls, here is some solace:
=http://www.examiner.com/article/two-democratic-pollsters-confirm-major-polls-skewed-against-mitt-romney
=http://www.gradethenews.org/pages2/Pollstory1.htm
=http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/us/politics/political-pollsters-struggle-to-get-the-right-cell-number.html?pagewanted=all
“But GOP candidates all over the country are explicitly rejecting those remarks, running from them like Japanese villagers fleeing Godzilla.”
Truth Meter Rating: Mostly False
“I’m not one for hyperbole,” Nate Silver of Fivethirtyeight tweeted last night. “But GOP Senate map is imploding. Chance of a takeover now just 21%.”
Here’s some hyperbole for you, bud: polling is dying. I suppose that is why you sold out to the liberal New York Times (while you could still make a buck). Hey – but we all know you are a life “progressive” and I guess that explains why the liberals love you so much.
“He has a lot of money yet to spend, both in his own campaign coffers and through “independent” campaigns funded by wealthy conservatives.”
Jay, I do believe you could have worked for Slick Willy himself with this sort of tripe. You do know, don’t you, that your boy Obama greatly outspent McCain in 2008. But, now, suddenly campaign spending is an issue. Shhhh…you don’t want to say that too explicitly because that would reveal your hypocrisy. So…yeah…let’s slip it in as an insinuation – that’ll do the trick.
“Outside events could also intervene.”
Yeah, like the ME getting much worse in the next month or so:
=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/20/ideology-political-calculation-put-obama-in-bind-on-muslim-uprisings/
Welcome to the Occupation
September 20th, 2012
12:47 pm
Steve Shamrock:
But the problem is twofold.
“As someone who has professionally studied and written about comparative economics, capitalism, and socialism for almost fifty years, the reticence to probe the core beliefs of a political leader seems odd.”
But a political leader’s “core beliefs” are clearly observable in that leader’s concrete actions, otherwise they’re simply the stuff of speculation, much of it tending towards purely paranoid type of the Dnesh D’Souza variety.
The other part of your explanation completely misses the whole shift in the political arrangements across the Western world in the post-WWII era which has seen the Social Democratic parties completely sever their ties to their Marxist origins and go over whole hog to neoliberal market dogma. This was the case to such an extent that by the mid 80s you had Mitterand the nominal socialist carrying out some of the most vicious austerity measures and privatization we’ve seen to this day, and by the 90s you have Tony Blair and his New Labour boys out-Thatchering Thatcher, carrying Thatcherite neoliberalism to its culmination, something which Bill Clinton and his henchman like Robert Rubin did in this country, carrying Reaganite deregulation and welfare program dismantling to its completion in the name of post-Cold War progress (”the era of big government is over”).
The Social Democratic parties of Europe have played a key role in the same process of market fundamentalism that we’ve seen by the Republicans and New Democrats in this country.
mississippi
September 20th, 2012
12:48 pm
Romney’s advisors and think tank supporters are the same as those who advised Bush – Heritage Foundation, AEI, Rove, Norquist, etc. Romney = Bush. Bush = Failure. Obama = Progress (in spite of the GOP’s stated goal of not doing anything to help America – just working to make Obama a one term pres.). There it is in math for you.
Lord Help Us
September 20th, 2012
12:48 pm
Madmax,
The only people that think Obama is a socialist are right wing kooks.
I saw an interview not too long ago (wish I could remember where) in which the interviewed spoke with members of real Socialist groups. According to actual Socialists…Obama is FAR from a Socialist.
But, I’m sure you know better…
Partisay
September 20th, 2012
12:51 pm
Madmax – “and that if they shout over everybody who disagrees with them they feel they have protected their ruler”
Shout over everybody? You mean like Rush, Hannity, Coulter, O’Reilly, Ingram, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,???
Repro
September 20th, 2012
12:51 pm
To the cons who keep harping on the 19 trillion debt, that debt would not have existed if Bush/GOP had not started two expensive wars and enacted unnecessary tax cuts. Obama spent the money to save the auto industry and other bailouts.
Erwin's cat
September 20th, 2012
12:52 pm
Welcome – I want to replace it with a better system.
can you be less specific?
TiredOfIt
September 20th, 2012
12:52 pm
Two months before election Romney has decided he will represent the whole country (100%). I wonder what will happend two months after he gets elected?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 20th, 2012
12:53 pm
Erwin’s feline
“can you be less specific?”
Sure.
I want to replace it.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
September 20th, 2012
12:54 pm
Lord Help Us
According to actual Socialists…Obama is FAR from a Socialist.
YOU ARE CORRECT, right wing kooks are wrong
he is not a socialist
HE IS AN ANTI-COLONIALIST and a CORPORATIST
but right wing nuts and a lot of left wing nuts don’t get it
his upbringing is vastly different than what most americans experience and he was exposed to different ideas than we all were educated too
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
I saw an interview not too long ago (wish I could remember where) in which the interviewed spoke with members of real Socialist groups. According to actual Socialists…Obama is FAR from a Socialist.
It was on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
September 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
WOW! This is a relief!!!
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/19/13957722-state-department-no-secret-plan-to-invade-canada
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
HE IS AN ANTI-COLONIALIST
Where exactly did you want to colonize??
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:56 pm
BTW, of course he’s a corporatist. Duh.
larry
September 20th, 2012
12:57 pm
I wonder what will happend two months after he gets elected?
I doubt he goes to the 53%, he will go probably to the 2%.
What he calls his base.
Aquagirl
September 20th, 2012
12:57 pm
Why is Towncrier hanging out at Al-Jazeera?
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
12:58 pm
Why is Towncrier hanging out at Al-Jazeera?
They really are awesome at ME-centric news gathering. If there’s something flaring over there, they’ll have the best reporting on it.
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
12:59 pm
“Shout over everybody? You mean like Rush, Hannity, Coulter, O’Reilly, Ingram, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,???”
In this case, I think he meant Maher, Matthews, Maddow, Schultz, Brokaw, Sharpton and those of that ilk. You know the type, right?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 20th, 2012
12:59 pm
This just in: Fox reports that Obama has secret plan to invade Canada.
The fact that Obama denies is it proof that it exists. Holder is incompetent.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
12:59 pm
Towncrier — “For those of you loathe to bet your house or, unlike Jay, base your career on polls, here is some solace:”
I love how you’re now taking the personal beliefs of pollsters as some sort of affirmative evidence that your demographic sampling argument is actually a valid criticism of how political polling is done.
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
1:00 pm
“Why is Towncrier hanging out at Al-Jazeera?”
Atlantis gets boring after a time.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
1:01 pm
ByteMe — “Where exactly did you want to colonize??”
MARS, B1TCHES
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
Anybody see what color Mr. Romney was in the Univision interview?
What’s that all about?
USMC
September 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
“but right wing nuts and a lot of left wing nuts don’t get it”–Uncle Samantha
Can I have a few of your wingnuts for this bicycle from the 1970’s that I am attempting to put together?
Citizen of the World
September 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
Cobbmom @ 11:37, I feel you.
But see, this is a key part of the Republican strategy. Their minions in the media — yes, Republicans, Fox News and Talk Radio are media, too! — spend as much if not more time vilifying the mainstream/elite/liberal media as they do talking about the issues. This is done for two reasons — one, to keep their listeners from seeking out other sources or news and opinion, and two, to keep them from believing anything the see or hear from those sources.
This strategy has been quite effective and evidenced by so many of the posters on this blog. They won’t believe anything against their candidate because, of course, they can’t trust the source!
mm
September 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
“Health Care Tax Penalty To Hit Nearly 6 Million Uninsured People”
Good. Because most of them are probably righties that are simply protesting the mandate.
Aquagirl
September 20th, 2012
1:04 pm
Atlantis gets boring after a time.
Tourists won’t venture out of the tourist spots, then they complain it’s boring.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
1:04 pm
GG — “Anybody see what color Mr. Romney was in the Univision interview? What’s that all about?”
Yo soy Oompa-Loompa
larry
September 20th, 2012
1:04 pm
This just in: Fox reports that Obama has secret plan to invade Canada.
And now, although it was a joke, watch it spread all over the interwebs.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
September 20th, 2012
1:05 pm
Tourists won’t venture out of the tourist spots, then they complain it’s boring.
Getting mugged in a foreign country is not boring. You can take my word for that, no need to experience it yourself. I’ve taken the bullet for you.
larry
September 20th, 2012
1:09 pm
Anybody see what color Mr. Romney was in the Univision interview? What’s that all about?”
Oh no, he’s hired Boehner’s makeup guy.
This isnt going to be good.
beam me up
September 20th, 2012
1:10 pm
It is worth pointing out that Rasmussen has a reputation for producing polls which slant Republican. This may be due to methodology (not including households without a land line and only trying a number once if not answered) rather than intent. Since older voters tend to have land lines and be at home to anwer the phone more, they get overrepresented. Because older voters tend to be more Republican, the Republican candidate’s number gets inflated by a few points.
Aquagirl
September 20th, 2012
1:10 pm
Getting mugged in a foreign country is not boring.
Tourists complain about boredom, we provide excitement, then they complain it’s not boring enough.
Air-breathers are never happy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 20th, 2012
1:11 pm
This is all well and good, but how does it affect THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! ?
JamVet
September 20th, 2012
1:11 pm
HE IS AN ANTI-COLONIALIST and a CORPORATIST
I agree.
The first is fine, the second is an abomination to the sovereignty of we the people.
Corporations are people my friend.
(Excuse me for a moment while I clean up the vomit.)
Had our neocons (D & R) been around in the 1860’s they would have written’ “…that government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations shall not perish from the earth.”
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
1:12 pm
“They really are awesome at ME-centric news gathering. If there’s something flaring over there, they’ll have the best reporting on it.”
I would agree that it is a very good source for ME news, BM.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 20th, 2012
1:13 pm
JHM and larry
Epidermal Pandering….oh so colorful.
DannyX
September 20th, 2012
1:14 pm
“This just in: Fox reports that Obama has secret plan to invade Canada.”
Anyone know what Romney’s position on this is?
larry
September 20th, 2012
1:15 pm
Romney has turned very orange.
I wonder if he is going to start chain smoking too.
buzzy
September 20th, 2012
1:16 pm
America knows Obama is not a Muslim Socialist. He’s been in office four years.
Now why in the world should they vote for Romney who changes his position every week? I don’t even think Mitt Romney knows who Mitt Romney is.
I hate to break it to the cons, but not everyone watches the Fox News Fantasy hour every day. Not everyone is a part of that fairy tale.
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
1:17 pm
Great column on liberal doublespeak and hypocrisy regarding the “free speech” and the criticism of religion:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444450004578002010241044712.html
larry
September 20th, 2012
1:18 pm
Anyone know what Romney’s position on this is?
It doesnt matter, he’ll change it next month.
And then , when he runs for the nomination again in four years , he’ll have another position, so he can argue with himself, like he is doing now.
Peadawg
September 20th, 2012
1:18 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/pawlenty-quits-romney-campaign-co-chair-132022573–election.html
Looks like Pawlenty can tell when a ship is about to sink….
Fred ™
September 20th, 2012
1:19 pm
So Obama goes to this bar………….
And while he’s there this guy walks in and sees him. “Is that the President?” he asks the bartender. The bartender allows that it is so the guy walks over.
“Hi Mr. President,” the guy says.
“Hi,” says Obama, “Me and the bartender are having a little argument maybe you can help us out.”
“Anything Mr. President.”
“Ok, you’ve heard about the problems in Libya right? Well the bartender says I should nuke the whole Country killing all 6 and 1/2 million Libyans and execute one blonde with big breast.” says Obama.
“Why do you want to kill an Blonde with big breasts” ask the guy.
Then the bartender interrupts, “See Mr. President, I TOLD you no one gives a damn about 6 1/2 million Libyans but you………”
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
1:20 pm
And another:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/322396/note-paul-krugman-here-s-real-elminationist-rhetoric-dennis-prager
getalife
September 20th, 2012
1:21 pm
willie is stressed out.
Cracking under the pressure from major league politics.
He is a minor leaguer.
Fred ™
September 20th, 2012
1:22 pm
Romney has turned very orange.
Holy crap batman, you mean he’s turned into an Oompah Loompah?
http://tinyurl.com/dyrgcze
mm
September 20th, 2012
1:23 pm
“Anybody see what color Mr. Romney was in the Univision interview? ”
He’s trying to look Mexican. LOL
USMC
September 20th, 2012
1:23 pm
“I hate to break it to the cons, but not everyone watches the Fox News Fantasy hour every day. Not everyone is a part of that fairy tale.”
Yeah, the real THINKERS here on the blog watch the Daily and Colbert Shows for their hard facts.
larry
September 20th, 2012
1:24 pm
you mean he’s turned into an Oompah Loompah?
or another John Boehner,
which ever you prefer.
getalife
September 20th, 2012
1:25 pm
His Dad built a very large Mormon complex down in Mexico.
willie refuses to talk about it.
Brosephus™
September 20th, 2012
1:26 pm
Fred @ 1:19
larry
September 20th, 2012
1:26 pm
Yeah, the real THINKERS here on the blog watch the Daily and Colbert Shows for their hard facts.
Which has more stories with facts than Fox News.
Sad, isn’t it.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
1:26 pm
beam me up — “It is worth pointing out that Rasmussen has a reputation for producing polls which slant Republican. This may be due to methodology (not including households without a land line and only trying a number once if not answered) rather than intent.”
Rasmussen has a history as a conservative pollster, but apparently decided at some point to go commercial.
Rasmussen’s likely voter model employs party weighting, which multiplies actual poll results by the percentages which the firm THINKS Republicans, Democrats and independents will turn out on Election Day.
Q: How does Rasmussen know what the turnout will be on Election Day?
A: They don’t. They make up the multiplier. It’s nothing more than a guess.
Q: How do you know this?
A: They admit to it on their website.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2008/the_value_of_party_weighting_for_a_tracking_poll
It’s behind a paywall now, but it wasn’t the last time I checked (about a month ago).
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 20th, 2012
1:26 pm
That’s odd. drudgey has no mention of Pawlenty leaving the Romney campaign, but this is the top story in the right hand column.
REPORT: PARIS HILTON IN NEW TAPE MESS… DEVELOPING…
DannyX
September 20th, 2012
1:27 pm
“Looks like Pawlenty can tell when a ship is about to sink….”
Pawlenty must be saying to himself, “I could have been a contender!”
It must have been terrible for Palenty, watching from the sidelines and seeing one Republican kook after the other taking the spotlight during the primaries. Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Cain, Newt, all had their turn at the plate. Republicans then got stuck with Romney. They weren’t thrilled about Romney back then and are even less thrilled now.
Pawlenty was the Marilyn in a Republican sea of Munsters.
USMC
September 20th, 2012
1:27 pm
“His Dad built a very large Mormon complex down in Mexico.
willie refuses to talk about it.”–Getalife
It’s because Mittens is really an Illegal Alien!
Quagmire
September 20th, 2012
1:27 pm
Never heard a word from the tea party people about national debt during the bush years(especially during the wars, $3.5T tax cuts, etc)
Now, if you really want to make a tea party con member mad, ask them if they read the part of the Bible when it talks about dinosaurs………………………….LoL……………Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Towncrier
September 20th, 2012
1:27 pm
““I hate to break it to the cons, but not everyone watches the Fox News Fantasy hour every day. Not everyone is a part of that fairy tale.”
This from a guy going by the name of “buzzy”?
Joe Hussein Mama
September 20th, 2012
1:29 pm
Towncrier — “Great column on liberal doublespeak and hypocrisy regarding the “free speech” and the criticism of religion:”
Your author discredits himself right quick when he says this:
“So let’s get this straight: In the consensus view of modern American liberalism, it is hilarious to mock Mormons and Mormonism but outrageous to mock Muslims and Islam. Why? Maybe it’s because nobody has ever been harmed, much less killed, making fun of Mormons.”
The LDS has a pretty bloody early history. Ask any Mormon friend or associate about the Mountain Meadows Massacre and see how quickly they try to change the subject.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
September 20th, 2012
1:29 pm
That, and big boys have big brains.
Whatevahh……
USMC
September 20th, 2012
1:30 pm
“Which has more stories with facts than Fox News. Sad, isn’t it.”–Larry
Yes, the COMEDY shows report more facts than Fox News… Only in your mind , Larry.
(pass that bong Larry and go microwave some more popcorn, Jon Stewart’s coming back from commercial)