GOP strategists cannot like what they’re seeing

So this is what it looks like on Sept. 20, 2012, 47 days to the election that Newt Gingrich kept calling the most consequential since 1860:

In the presidential race, Mitt Romney remains neck and neck with Barack Obama in both the Rasmussen and Gallup tracking polls, with most of Obama’s post-convention bounce eroding. Other recent polls, however, show Obama building a significant lead. The latest Pew poll puts Obama up eight points; the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll puts him up five.

But Romney’s real problems show up at the state level. In the swing states that he has to have — Ohio, Virginia, Florida — poll after poll shows his situation deteriorating significantly. At a point in the campaign where he has to be shrinking the margin, the margin is growing. Fox puts Romney down seven in Ohio, down five in Florida and down seven in Virginia.

Republican hopes to take the Senate, a goal the party once deemed a near certainty, seem to be collapsing as well. In state after state, the numbers are turning. Massachusetts, Florida, Virginia, Connecticut, Ohio, Wisconsin — in every crucial state in which fresh numbers are available, the tide is strongly Democratic. Last night in red Arizona, a new poll put Democrat Richard Carmona up by five over U.S. Rep. Jeff Flake, the first lead Carmona has enjoyed. Other polls will be needed to confirm that switch, but back in June, Rasmussen gave Flake a seemingly insurmountable 16-point lead.

“I’m not one for hyperbole,” Nate Silver of Fivethirtyeight tweeted last night. “But GOP Senate map is imploding. Chance of a takeover now just 21%.”

Most if not all of these numbers were generated before release of the video of Mitt Romney speaking a little too candidly to a roomful of donors. But GOP candidates all over the country are explicitly rejecting those remarks, running from them like Japanese villagers fleeing Godzilla. In Washington yesterday, Senate Republican leaders abandoned the microphones rather than take questions on the subject. (Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative National Review, has an admirably frank analysis of Romney’s distorted mindset at Politico.)

Even if you don’t put much credence in poll numbers, watch and listen to the Republican political professionals. If you don’t believe it, they do. Some are already in blame-shifting or recrimination mode, or trying to tamp down panic. Their internal polls are apparently telling them what the public polls are telling the rest of us. They also understand that if this turns out to be what it looks like — a broad and significant shift toward Democrats — Democratic control of the House, once considered little more than a far-fetched dream by party leaders, could — I stress could — become a possibility.

On the GOP side of the ledger, 47 days is a long time in politics, and Romney still has three debates against Obama in which to turn things around. He has a lot of money yet to spend, both in his own campaign coffers and through “independent” campaigns funded by wealthy conservatives. Outside events could also intervene. (However, his ham-handed approach to events in Egypt and Libya don’t inspire confidence in his ability to turn that to his advantage, should it occur.)

Finally, electoral waves that build too early have a way of cresting and receding by the time Election Day comes around. So it ain’t over, not for a while yet.

But something does seem to be going on out there.

– Jay Bookman

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Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 20th, 2012
6:16 am

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 20th, 2012
6:17 am

By the way…Grand morning to all y’all!

kristie

September 20th, 2012
6:29 am

Please. He spoke the truth… this is just to avoid the facts that under Obama food prices have risen 30% and gas has almost doubled in price. Romney is right and the “victims” hate the truth. But, the true question is to these Victims want help or do they want to end up like Greece where everyone is about to loose their entitlements forever. The people that collect checks are not paying into the system.

Melba Narberth

September 20th, 2012
6:31 am

When will American journalists quit being so obsessed with hurting people’s feelings and start talking about true dangers such as the $16 trillion debt and the NDAA, which Obama signed into law and allows for the indefinite detainment of Americans without trial?

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
6:31 am

” In state after state, the numbers are turning. Massachusetts, Florida, Virginia, Connecticut, Ohio, Wisconsin — in every crucial state in which fresh numbers are available, the tide is strongly Democratic. ”

and yesterday’s vote in which the GOP turned its back on vets isn’t going to help any …

it’s beginning to look a lot … like … Christmas … eeeeeeeverywheeeeeere you goooooo …

GoodScout

September 20th, 2012
6:32 am

Damn those freeloading veterans! And those moocher retirees who paid into the Social Security system. The more people learn about the real GOP, the more likely they are to vote Democratic.

Blackeyedbeaver

September 20th, 2012
6:33 am

I want to call a landslide in the making however a BILLION dollars of Koch, Freis and Adleson money has been guaranteed to this race. The GOP has crap to sell, but an eternal ‘infomercial’ to play out for the next 6 1/2 weeks…Will people power trump billionaire dollars? For the future of the Republic, I hope so.

Jay

September 20th, 2012
6:33 am

“Please. He spoke the truth….”

Before you try to convince the public of that fact, kristie, you might want to start by convincing leaders of your own party. Because for the most part, they’re not saying what you’re saying.

well I dont like hearing network news continue to coverup serious gaffs by Obama while taking minor misquotes from Mr Romney and continually bash him over mundane things just to divert everyones attention from obamas many screwups ..

September 20th, 2012
6:34 am

Enter your comments here

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
6:34 am

“under Obama food prices have risen 30% and gas has almost doubled in price”

why-o-why-o-why-o … do supposed conservatives hate the free market …

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
6:35 am

“minor misquotes”

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jay

September 20th, 2012
6:37 am

Melba, I don’t like the NDAA anymore than you do. And while Obama signed it and should certainly take the heat for doing so, the impetus for that legislation came out of Congress, with a lot of Republican support. It is a bipartisan power grab by the security apparatus at the expense of basic freedom, and I very much hope the courts throw it out.

Jay

September 20th, 2012
6:40 am

And to reiterate regarding the “minor misquotes”, read the Lowry piece linked above. It’s very good. He makes the case that the statements reflect too accurately who Romney really is.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
6:41 am

Signing Statement by the President on H.R. 1540

Today I have signed into law H.R. 1540, the “National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.” I have signed the Act chiefly because it authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, crucial services for service members and their families, and vital national security programs that must be renewed. In hundreds of separate sections totaling over 500 pages, the Act also contains critical Administration initiatives to control the spiraling health care costs of the Department of Defense (DoD), to develop counterterrorism initiatives abroad, to build the security capacity of key partners, to modernize the force, and to boost the efficiency and effectiveness of military operations worldwide.

The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists. Over the last several years, my Administration has developed an effective, sustainable framework for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected terrorists that allows us to maximize both our ability to collect intelligence and to incapacitate dangerous individuals in rapidly developing situations, and the results we have achieved are undeniable. Our success against al-Qa’ida and its affiliates and adherents has derived in significant measure from providing our counterterrorism professionals with the clarity and flexibility they need to adapt to changing circumstances and to utilize whichever authorities best protect the American people, and our accomplishments have respected the values that make our country an example for the world.

just sayin’.

DeborahinAthens

September 20th, 2012
6:43 am

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, in this state, in particular, the lower middle class white religious nuts always vote for Republicans. I can only assume it is because of those pesky social values. These are people that want to prevent us from buying liquor on Sunday, they want the Ten Commandments in the courthouse and baby Jesus in the manger on the courthouse square at Christmas. They do not want women to have control of their own bodies. The men want their women barefoot and pregnant, all the time. I have one second cousin who has had six kids, and believe me, the gene pool is getting pretty diluted! It amazes me that these are the same people who have seen their jobs evaporate. The carpet mills have gone away, and will never come back. Their Republican governors have trashed the public school system so any tiny ray of hope for this cohort being able to get a decent education has been destroyed by Republicans hell bent on getting the voucher system instituted so little Trey can get help with his private school and little Bubba can get his Christian School paid for by the tax payers. These are the same irrational people that excoriate Obama for not creating jobs for them. How is it that they cannot see the the entire Republican Party from Mitt the Twitt on down to our local Congressmen and women do not have their best interest at heart? Ask ex-gov Sonny why he gutted education spending to spend millions on a fish museum, which, on any day rarely has more than ten cars in the parking lot. Ask him!

John Getze

September 20th, 2012
6:45 am

I wonder, do any of these commenters actually believe what they read here? Funny.

Jay

September 20th, 2012
6:47 am

To be honest, USinUK, Obama could have and should have spoken out against those provisions more forcefully, and if he had he might have gotten them changed.

Wilbur

September 20th, 2012
6:48 am

The media is in overdrive to keep anything negative from Obama and to work as hard as they can to position Romney negatively. It’s now an all out push, no pretense, just partisanship.

After the election they will sort out the price they will pay with the public.

Krystal'sBalls

September 20th, 2012
6:49 am

Said it before and I will say it again, Obama will win this election in a landslide. The debates will all but seal Romney’s fate. The guy just IS NOT very good. Doubters keep doubting…

And yes @USinUK, it does seem that they really do not like the so-called “free market”. They only like it when they can exploit the concept in a talking point to sway the misinformed non-critical thinking masses.

BlahBlahBlah

September 20th, 2012
6:50 am

Congratulations Democrats. This November you’re the least worst option. What a proud accomplishment.

Peadawg

September 20th, 2012
6:50 am

I was expecting a column on the GOP rejecting the Veterans Jobs bill that was just shot down.

woodsrocks

September 20th, 2012
6:50 am

The 47% grows every time this disdainful money baron opens his mouth.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
6:52 am

Jay – 6:47 – totally agree – but the signing statement is better than nothing.

DeborahinAthens

September 20th, 2012
6:53 am

By the way, kristie, you do know that the price of food has gone up due to worldwide weather conditions, some would say is primarily the result of global climate change. There have been severe droughts in our Midwest, which is called the “Breadbasket of the World” for a reason. There are also severe droughts in several regions that grow coffee and coccoa beans. I recommend you stop listening to Hannity and Boortz and go on line and read the annual reports of (Brazillian company,largest producer of soybeans), Archer Daniel Midland, ConAgra, etc. Nowhere do we see them mention that their costs have risen because our magical President didn’t wave his magic wand to create food.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
6:53 am

“The media is in overdrive to keep anything negative from Obama and to work as hard as they can to position Romney negatively. It’s now an all out push, no pretense, just partisanship.”

yep. it’s not what he says. it’s the fact that the media TELLS us what he says …

laugh flippin RIOT

DeborahinAthens

September 20th, 2012
6:58 am

@kristie, the soybean producer is Bunge. My fat fingers deleted .the name in the posting above. Tell me what control Obama has over a Brazillion company? Tell me what control he has over the commodities markets and the Mercantile that sets gas prices? You are not very bright or elas you are very gullible. Turn off Talk Radio.

BlahBlahBlah

September 20th, 2012
7:03 am

Where was DeborahinAthens when Princess Pelosi blamed “two oil men in the White House”?

DeborahinAthens

September 20th, 2012
7:04 am

USInUK, maybe the media isn’t reporting negative things and “gaffes” from Obama because he doesn’t say and believe stupid things. At this point, if you’re keeping score, half of what team Romney-Ryan says are lies (proven) or, really, really harsh opinions. Some people agree with those opinions. Some don’t. But bottom line, you people have to stop relying only on the Talk Radio entertainers and Fox News for your “facts”

DeborahinAthens

September 20th, 2012
7:07 am

Sorry USInUK, I was agreeing with you! I know Wilbur made the comment…I need coffee.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:12 am

“Princess Pelosi”

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I stopped reading.

skydog

September 20th, 2012
7:15 am

I saw one yesterday that said, “It ain`t over till the Carl Rove sings”.

Max Sizemore

September 20th, 2012
7:18 am

Jay, you are correct. That IS a good analysis by Lowry.

Brad Arnold

September 20th, 2012
7:19 am

It is important to deferential between unfortunate events outside of the control of the campaign, and those that the campaign can control. Romney had shot himself in the foot many times here, with the main stream media just now beginning to report his foul ups.

In other words, every campaign gets an unfortunate slam every once in a while, but all too often in Romney’s campaign the wounds are self-inflicted. This implies (unless the Romney campaign becomes the un-Romney campaign) that the current trend will continue, and Romney is going to lose in a landslide:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-19/romney-faces-challenges-amid-republican-criticism-after-stumbles

“A survey conducted Sept. 12-16, before the videotape from May surfaced, by the Pew Research Center put Obama ahead of Romney 51 percent to 43 percent among likely voters. That’s the largest advantage in September the survey has shown for any presidential nominee among likely voters since 1996, when President Bill Clinton led Republican challenger Bob Dole, 50 percent to 38 percent.”

Mark in mid-town

September 20th, 2012
7:19 am

Jay Bookman writes: “In the presidential race, Mitt Romney remains neck and neck with Barack Obama in both the Rasmussen and Gallup tracking polls, with most of Obama’s post-convention bounce eroding. Other recent polls, however, show Obama building a significant lead. The latest Pew poll puts Obama up eight points; the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll puts him up five.”
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Let’s face it. Romney has had a terrible couple of weeks, some of it manufactured by the corrupt liberal media, but plenty of it self-inflicted as well. Romney is a political stiff and he doesn’t seem to have gotten any better. That said, I would advise people to look to the internals of the polls that show Romney well behind. Those polls are clearly over-sampling Democrats relative to Republicans. If one adjusts for a more realistic party distribution , then at least as it pertains to the general election, Romney is not trailing by that much. It’s a close race. Romney still has a chance to turn it around, but he does have to step up his game and run a more competent campaign. Romney has a demonstrated history of being an incredibly competent executive and there is no reason to think he wouldn’t make a good president with those skills, but he’s displayed the political skills of a complete incompetent. It’s a shame because the country really does need new leadership.

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September 20th, 2012
7:23 am

USinUK,
Good morning my friend.
I just wanted you to know I’ve been trying out your recipes…with a twist. Since I’m diabetic, I’ve been using sugar substitutes. They may not be as good as the “real thing”, but to me, they are simply marvelous, darling, simply marvelous!

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:25 am

“The corrupt liberal media”??? you mean like Our Lady of the Dolphins???

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2012/09/18/time-for-an-intervention/

It’s time to admit the Romney campaign is an incompetent one. It’s not big, it’s not brave, it’s not thoughtfully tackling great issues. It’s always been too small for the moment. All the activists, party supporters and big donors should be pushing for change. People want to focus on who at the top is least constructive and most responsible. Fine, but Mitt Romney is no puppet: He chooses who to listen to. An intervention is in order. “Mitt, this isn’t working.”

Li'l Aynie

September 20th, 2012
7:25 am

For God’s sake, let’s stop supporting the liars and class warriors of the GOP! By repeating the Bush/Cheney policies over the next 4-8 years, we’ll end up like Greece: broke, divided, and blacklisted in the credit markets!

Instead, let’s strive to end up like the Scandinavian countries, the Netherlands, and Singapore, with a high standard of living, top-rated global competitiveness in business, a seamless and complete social support network, and a long, happy life span. Another 4 years with Obama is a good start!

Pete

September 20th, 2012
7:25 am

Democrats are the stupidest people on earth. Internal polls show Romney up by at least three with most of these mainstream media polls being slanted by as much as 13 points for the Demorats. The majority is more anxious than in 2010 to vote out this idiot and I hope you keep this warm fuzzy feeling about November 6th. Romnay will kill Dumbo in the debates and yes the 53% are tired of paying for the welfare folks who haven’t worked a day in their damn lives and choose not to.. Democrats are worse than Al Qaeda as they are trying to destroy this country from within with a Socialist president that has been the most divisive in history. I have not heard from one person that is stupid enough to kill this country with at least 20 Trillion in debt if this idiot is voted in again. If you vote for Obama you are a traitor and should be treated as such!!!

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September 20th, 2012
7:26 am

Peadawg

September 20th, 2012
6:50 am

And why not? That was simply a stupid thing to do and guaranteed to get the Veterans vote, huh?

Four GOP Congressmen who would rather play politics than do what’s right for our Soldiers. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:26 am

Normal – aw – thanks!! I did send you to the right place, though???

http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/

(making another batch of the pear and chocolate jam this weekend to take home with me)

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September 20th, 2012
7:28 am

Pete

September 20th, 2012
7:25 am

Pete,
You’re a hoot! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:28 am

“Four GOP Congressmen who would rather play politics than do what’s right for our Soldiers. Stupid, stupid, stupid.”

meh – FOUR??? you mean FORTY … this bill should have passed unanimously – ANYone who voted against it should be excoriated.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:29 am

“Internal polls show Romney up by at least three with most of these mainstream media polls being slanted by as much as 13 points for the Demorats. ”

aw, bless …

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 20th, 2012
7:29 am

EXCUUUUUUUUSE ME….Those Japanese villagers simply misunderstood me.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 20th, 2012
7:29 am

USinUK,
Yep,
…and the way you described yourself gave me shivers…wink, wink!

Madmax

September 20th, 2012
7:30 am

Deborah

Some facts
Our national debt is now $16,043,000,000,000. Seems like it was just $10,000,000,000,000 just 4 years ago. That’s a 60% increase.

We spend $223,000,000,000 on debt financing at low rates. What happens if interest rates tick up a couple of points?

Our national unemployment rate is still at the 8+% nationally and we are not adding enough new jobs to solve the issue.

The presidents policies in the MidEast have blown up in his face.

Attacks on our troops from friendly trained Afghans have risen to over 50 a year from around 4 per year since our president took over.

Health care costs continue to rise and we still don’t know the true cost of Obamacare

Our dollar continues to be eroded with the easy money policies of print and borrow.

But he deserves another 4 years so we can get $22-25 trillion in debt?

So everyone but the 1% will be on foodstamps

So our unemployed will be 15 million

Time for a change – we can’t afford another 4 more years

independent thinker

September 20th, 2012
7:31 am

Republican Senators sent a message to veterans yesterday- you are not wanted by our party and are just a bunnch of losers and victims-drop dead. In a bill that was bipartisan and partly written by and sponsored by Republicans to create jobs for veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan fiascoes (wars) the Republicans filibustered it and voted against bringing it to a vote. Same for a similar bill in the House that was sent to committee.

As the big dog said at the convention- Republicans in Congress get a big fat zero for job creation.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 20th, 2012
7:32 am

Ha Ha.
I Hope obama DOES win.
That way………….he will do to the civil-liberty respecting Democrat party what………George W did to the small government,individual liberty-loving Republican Party.
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Destroy it……………….as decent Americans sigh with relief.
.
And then the War criminals Obama and Bush can slither around/hide together from world justice.
.
Too rich.
.
lol

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September 20th, 2012
7:34 am

USinUK – thug with a uterus … and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:28 am

You are right, of course, but I was talking mainly of Senators Boozeman, Burr, Johanns, and Toomey.

gb

September 20th, 2012
7:37 am

The Rich Lowry piece is good, but I have one quarrel with him. He mentions a “return to Country Club Republicanism.” When did they ever stray? Just because they patronize and pander to the teabaggers doesn’t mean they’ve given up their tee time.

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Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 20th, 2012
7:41 am

Madmax and Pete and kristie and Melba…..

Bless your hearts!

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

September 20th, 2012
7:45 am

In Robme world Corporations get govt Subsides and the 47 % are called govt moochers.

Robert

September 20th, 2012
7:46 am

Romney is Israel’s “manchurian candidate” for them to hijack control of US foreign policy and for a war with Iran. Romney has been their “chosen one” for quite sometime and it is the reason he was a one term governor in MA and all the flip-flopping to become the Republican nominee. Zionist billionaires, like Sheldon Adelson, are pouring millions upon millions into his campaign. Romney’s advisors are the same Zionist neo-cons that fabricated the lies to justify the war in Iraq at Israel and AIPACS urging. Google “aipac iraq war” for more info then google “aipac iran war”. Sheldon Adelson is best friends with Israel PM Netanyahu and funds a newspaper in Israel that supports all of Netanyahu’s racist policies, including a war with Iran. Romney has already promised Bibi the US lead in a war with Iran and that is why Bibi has been meddling in US politics to try to get Romney elected. It turns out that Mitt and Bibi are good friends and have been for 36 years, long before either was involved in politics. What a strange coincidence that is or is it a coincidence? Bibi must be getting pretty upset with Romney tanking in the polls and with polls showing 70% of American Jews will be voting for Obama. Bibi has bitten the hand the hand of the President that has been feeding him for four years, so payback is fair play. I hope Obama forces Israel to go it alone on attacking Iran which will be difficult since the Israeli public doesn’t even support them doing it alone. I also hope that Obama will stop vetoing UN resolutions against Israel. A vote for Romney is a vote for war. Thank goodness the fat lady has begun singing.

Madmax

September 20th, 2012
7:47 am

Granny,

Have you got a spare 16 trillion you can give the president to erase the debt? How about 6 so he can deny raising the debt by 60% on his watch. Has he got a plan to get out of this? But you bindly support him. Why? Do you not have family that will inherit this mess?

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:51 am

“Romney is Israel’s “manchurian candidate” ”

more like Romney is Israel’s useful idiot.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
7:53 am

There is no single policy we have passed that has added as much to the debt, or that is projected to add as much to the debt in the future, as the Bush tax cuts, which Republicans passed in 2001 and 2003 and Obama and the Republicans extended in 2010. To my knowledge, all elected Republicans want to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. Democrats, by and large, want to end them for income over $250,000.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/28/republican-national-convention-the-one-graph-you-need-to-see-before-watching/

Really?

September 20th, 2012
7:54 am

@Pete
Sorry there is no antidote for drinking the Kool-Aid from talk radio. I’m afraid you are poisoned forever, but try calling Poison Control anyway. God bless your soul, as you will be completely brain dead soon.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 20th, 2012
7:54 am

Madmax

You’re barking up the wrong tree big fella.

I understand how we got to where we were 4 years ago and how we got to where we are now.

Try and sell your snake oil to someone sans grey matter.

You are one sad angry man, and I feel for you.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 20th, 2012
7:54 am

Hey cons, if your excuses run to “it’s all the media’s fault” and “all those polls but one are flawed”, you might be an idiot about to suffer a significant let-down.

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September 20th, 2012
7:55 am

Madmax

September 20th, 2012
7:47 am

Madmax,

Don’t swoon…There is a way to reduce the deficit but the GOP won’t play. Cut Defense in half, remove all corporate (ag/oil/etc) subsidies, return to Clinton tax tables, and remove waste from the social service, providers and users. If the GOP was serious, there should be no problem, but they aren’t serious because they would hurt their masters.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 20th, 2012
7:55 am

For MadMax, history started on January 20, 2013. Everything that came before was right out of The Matrix, invented by a massive machine creating an illusion for everyone to consume.

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September 20th, 2012
7:58 am

Madmax,
One other thing…you remind me of an old bumper sticker I had. “Vote Republican, it’s easier than thinking”. Just sayin’…

Paul

September 20th, 2012
8:00 am

This campaign, and the preceeding few years, should be written up in grad school political science graduate program case studies about what happens when an ideological group on the margins of public opinion secures too much power in the political process.

Their party gains at the local level but loses the big prize because nationally, their vision is rejected.

The other point would be (Jay) “who Romney really is.” He may be that now. But it seems he wasn’t that way just a few years back. So when one suppresses one’s beliefs and parrots the beliefs of the gatekeepers too long, one loses one’s way and those constant repetitions take hold and corrode. Pretty soon you have a guy who wasn’t what he was, running on a platform he would have disavowed earlier, who too late realizes what happens when ‘to thine own self you’re not true.”

Mr_B

September 20th, 2012
8:01 am

Somebody please tell me that Pete at 7:25 is a lame attempt at parody.

curious

September 20th, 2012
8:03 am

Israel will lead to our downfall.

Any other Country falling all over itself for Israel?

Their lobby and our macho attitude is getting us in real trouble.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 20th, 2012
8:04 am

Mr_B: I don’t detect anything more over-the-top than what someone like kayaker would write, so I don’t think it’s a parody. He didn’t mention God or Jesus as he rants about how Obama wants to take all his money. That’s usually the sign of parody, like Bill Orvis White does.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 20th, 2012
8:05 am

Israel will lead to our downfall.

Only if we let neo-cons out from under the rock where they’re hiding in the Romney campaign advisor board…..

Joseph

September 20th, 2012
8:07 am

Why would they not like it Jay. Romney has pulled back even in the polls after many gave Oblama an undeserved bounce after his ridiculous convention… By the way will you trot out some tripe blaming Bush for the terror attack on the US consulate since a supposed terrorist released from Gitmo in 2007 was in on it… I hope so I can;t wait…

fair and balanced

September 20th, 2012
8:08 am

Life is good – Clinton makes up with Obama and gives a speech for the ages turning around the polls and then Jimmy Carter’s granson topedoes Romney with a direct hit discovering the secret donor tape. And today Kyle Wingfield admits the 47% of so called moochers who Romney disdains were parly created by conservative GOP legislation to buy votes and appease the little foks. And most GOP commentators say Romney is in deep sh-t. Life is good.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 20th, 2012
8:11 am

Life is good.

Well, for everyone who doesn’t have a Romney/Ryan sign in their yard. Or wants to put Romney for President on their résumé. Those people are not feeling so good this morning watching their world slip slowly through their grasps.

But they’ll blame the candidate, or the media, or the pollsters, or… pretty much anyone but themselves. :)

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
8:12 am

“But they’ll blame the candidate, or the media, or the pollsters, or… pretty much anyone but themselves”

I believe you meant to say, “they’ll blame the media … or the media … or the media … or pretty much anyone but the candidate and themselves.”

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 20th, 2012
8:13 am

That damned conservative corporately owned liberal media.

Aren’t they just the bees knees.

curious

September 20th, 2012
8:14 am

“Only if we let neo-cons out from under the rock where they’re hiding in the Romney campaign advisor board…..”

We have too many of those neo-cons who will just happen to make billions out of this.
Their obession with getting it all for themselves is the underlying cause.

kawasaki kid

September 20th, 2012
8:16 am

I sure hope all of you watched Jon Stewart’s opening monolog last night. It was a doooozy!!! Those “two oil men in the White House” Nancy Pelosi spoke of are exactly why our economy has tanked after eight years of Republican guidance.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 20th, 2012
8:16 am

“Only if we let neo-cons out from under the rock where they’re hiding in the Romney campaign advisor board…..”
.
They sure came out from under their rock for the DNC convention.
And cracked some whips.
.
LOL

DeborahinAthens

September 20th, 2012
8:16 am

Madman, honey, my health insurance has more than tripled in the past ten years. And now I have a $3000 deductible with higher co-pays. One reason I voted for Obama was the chance to get this mess under control. You cannot blame e rising cost of health care on Obama because, until 2014, most of the plan isn’t even in effect. The debt…agiain,one more time…look at the debt which must be paid….much of this has grown through many decades…Dems and Repugs alike are responsible for it. You cannot blame Obama for the majority of it. Just to pick a few pieces out of the pile…look at the part of the deficit cause by the Bush tax cuts, the two wars and Medicare Part D. You can’t extract those costs. They must be paid, but to blame Obama for them is ludicrous.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
8:17 am

“Aren’t they just the bees knees.”

mmmmmmmmmm … bees

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 20th, 2012
8:18 am

Do bees have knees?

Brosephus™

September 20th, 2012
8:19 am

But GOP candidates all over the country are explicitly rejecting those remarks, running from them like Japanese villagers fleeing Godzilla.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Somebody must have been drinking the good coffee!!!

Adam

September 20th, 2012
8:20 am

http://www.270towin.com

My coworker and I ran this map against the FiveThirtyEight Predictions, giving Romney every state that had less than a 70% chance of a projected Obama win. That gave Obama 275 to Romney’s 263.

There is very little hope for a Romney win. As though “hope” is something you can ascribe to such a man winning.

Cosby

September 20th, 2012
8:20 am

Still am unable to figure out why the main street media and folks lkie Jay go to extreme lenghts to protect Barry and slam Romney. Jay ignored the and defended the “you did not build that” but slams Romney when he told the truth. Jay slamed Romney and Bain Capital and amount of taxes paid or hidden abroad…but protects 47% who do not pay, pay limited and receive tax credits…how do you receive a credit if you do not owe anything – the moocher class votes Democratic…but what happens when the moocher class passes 50% and the remaining 50% decide not to work and pay taxes..then what..for the black..racism I know – who drool over Barry, have you realy ask yourself what Barry has done for you – your unemployment numbers are off the chart and has he provided any new opportunities – no – but he sure uses his dark color to take your vote..lets see…bailed out the auto companies – allowed GM to violate the bankruptcy laws, gave part ownership to the unions, gave Chrysler to Fiat, provided millions of dollars to green energy – those taht contributed to his campaign – failed to prosecute wall streeters as he has an interest in their well being, supported wall street occupants but called the TEA Party all kind of names, increased the number of unemployed from $11.6mm when he took office to $14.5mm, increased the Federal employment from $2.7mm to $2.8mm, the median household income decreased from $50.1k to $49.7k, People in povery increased from $39.8mm to $43.6mm, and the National Debt increased from $10.6 trillion to $14.1 which now may be $16.?? trillion, ignored the trouble in the middle east and blamed current riots on a video taht has been out for over 1 year..ype jay, we need another 4 years of this crap..keep throwing Romney under the bus and watch as Barry pushes the UAS off the cliff..

Tundra Dude

September 20th, 2012
8:21 am

Fox puts Romney down seven in Ohio, down five in Florida

I saw a list of 8-9 (?) blue states he’d have to win if he loses Ohio and Fla.
Ain’t happenin…..

I heard he’s already writing a new book: “Tax Avoidance For DUMMIES”

Williebkind

September 20th, 2012
8:22 am

fair and balanced

September 20th, 2012
8:08 am
How about those tapes and videos of Obama? How much do you know about them?

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
8:23 am

holy moses … I can’t believe Lowry actually said this, “How does this look in the real world? If a couple earning $35,000 with two kids has no income tax liability thanks to various exemptions, deductions and credits (the child tax credit has been especially important in removing families from the rolls), how much should we tax them to get them to shape up and fly right? How much do they have to fork over to the Internal Revenue Service to learn a lesson in basic civics?”

they’re going to throw him a towel party for sure …

straitroad

September 20th, 2012
8:24 am

We’ll get a real good idea of who will be elected in about 3 weeks. I suspect Romney’s plan is to finish with a flurry of ads highlighting the current state of the economy. He needs to poll better in Ohio and Virginia. He is up in NH and CO surprisingly but I don’t put too much stock in those polls at this point. I’m interested to see how the 47% and “I’m for redistribution” releases along with the foreign policy failures play in the coming days.

Adam

September 20th, 2012
8:24 am

Republican messaging machine losing talking points at a rapid rate:

-Wealth envy – given in a Romney speech, immediately seen as stupid by most people who didn’t already live within the bubble, never used again
-Obama apologizing – worked for a while within the bubble, but then Romney had to go and use it in a midnight speech, smirking as he walked away. People now have heard the apology tour nonsense in the mainstream, and it too was rejected.
-47% comment – Again, mostly in the bubble. Now that kind of thinking is mainstream and it too was rejected by the majority of the public.

Lord Help Us

September 20th, 2012
8:24 am

Well, somebody’s sheets came back from the minority run cleaners with some stains in them…

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
8:24 am

“Jay slamed Romney and Bain Capital and amount of taxes paid or hidden abroad…but protects 47% who do not pay, pay limited and receive tax credits…how do you receive a credit if you do not owe anything – the moocher class votes Democratic”

yep. someone seriously needs to go read the Lowry article …

Jm

September 20th, 2012
8:24 am

gm

September 20th, 2012
8:25 am

What do you expect from a person who only goes on misinformed fox so he can get soft questions?
47% of people that dont pay taxes are southern states that vote rep, how can you insult people on taxes when you refuse to release your taxes? could you imagine if Obama refused to show his taxes while running for President?, the nut jobs of Hannnity, scum bag Rush Limbaugh would have been running a 24 hour cycle.

TN_Realist

September 20th, 2012
8:25 am

Up here in TN, with the exception of Nashville & Memphis, the state has gone and is totally red. But there are signs of cracking in the solid red wall due to, purely and simply, the Republican platform. A number of folks I’ve spoke with have taken the time to read and study the national positions taken by the Republican party and they coming away with the realization that the party of “Small Goverment” and “Family Values” is a complete mischaraterization of the ultimate goals of the Republican party.

The House may not turn in this election cycle but if the Republicans contrinue of their path of self destruction it is only a matter of time.

TiredOfIt

September 20th, 2012
8:26 am

To bad Romney can’t shed the disastrous tea party and run as the moderate he is. Trying to be something he isn’t is destroying his campaign.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 20th, 2012
8:26 am

“Fox puts Romney down seven in Ohio, down five in Florida ”

lose Florida???

after dissing seniors and calling them shiftless??? (not to mention, choosing a Veep who wants to gut Medicare) … whodathunkit …

Adam

September 20th, 2012
8:26 am

ROMNEY DID NOT TELL THE TRUTH

Get that through your thick bubble heads.

-47% of people not having federal income tax liability is NOT the same as 47% of voters.
-A good number of that amount vote REPUBLICAN, reliably, from Republican states. This is a well known FACT.

The only thing that TECHNICALLY gives him an air of truth is if you believe that he believes in something that is totally false.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 20th, 2012
8:26 am

Cosby

“Extreme lengths to protect Barry”…..and people of sense scroll down

Adam

September 20th, 2012
8:27 am

By the way, in a few electoral map scenarios in which I give Romney Virginia, Ohio, AND Florida, Obama still wins.

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September 20th, 2012
8:27 am

Jm

September 20th, 2012
8:24 am

November

Yep, and the Democrats will have the White House, the Senate, and…the House. Ain’t it grand?

Joe Hussein Mama

September 20th, 2012
8:28 am

USinUK — I couldn’t believe it when I saw the Lowry piece this morning. I didn’t think that any con had the stones to call Romney’s behavior “country club Republicanism.”

That’s exactly what it is, of course, but our con friends and associates generally can’t seem to bring themselves to admit it.

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September 20th, 2012
8:28 am

Adam

September 20th, 2012
8:26 am

Yes again, see my first post. It’s in color too! :)