‘Fast and Furious’ report exonerates AG Holder

Yet another major right-wing outrage goes pffffft, as was predicted here almost a year ago.

From Politico:

An internal Justice Department investigation into the Operation Fast and Furious scandal singles out 14 different officials for criticism and possible disciplinary action. But a report out Wednesday found no evidence that the department’s top leaders knew about the gun-walking aspect of the operation when it was underway.

… the investigators found Attorney General Eric Holder didn’t know about the controversial operation until after the scandal emerged in the wake of the discovery of two weapons linked to the operation at the scene of the shooting death of a Border Patrol agent in December 2010.

The investigative report (available here) was harshly critical of the operation itself, as it should have been, noting that “the investigations were seriously flawed in several respects, most significantly in their failure to adequately consider the risk to public safety in the United States and Mexico.” None of that was a surprise; the operation has been widely acknowledged as botched.

However, the report exonerated Holder, finding that “we determined that Attorney General Holder did not learn about Operation Fast and Furious until late January or early February 2011 and was not aware of allegations of “gun walking” in the investigation until February…..

We found that Attorney General Holder had no involvement in drafting or reviewing the February 4 letter that he decided to withdraw in December 2011 after concluding that it contained inaccuracies. …. we determined that Holder had no part in the fact-gathering, editing, or approval process that led to the Department’s issuance of an inaccurate response on February 4.”

Holder’s response is a study in understatement:

“It is unfortunate that some were so quick to make baseless accusations before they possessed the facts about these operations – accusations that turned out to be without foundation and that have caused a great deal of unnecessary harm and confusion. I hope today’s report acts as a reminder of the dangers of adopting as fact unsubstantiated conclusions before an investigation of the circumstances is completed.”

Holder may hope for such a thing, but even he knows that hope is in vain.

– Jay Bookman

527 comments Add your comment

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:12 pm

Apologize in public gop.

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:13 pm

Lord Help Us

September 19th, 2012
4:17 pm

Investigate Issa for negligence.

Kamcheck

September 19th, 2012
4:19 pm

“An internal Justice Department investigation into the Operation Fast and Furious scandal…”

There’s your sign.

Common Sense

September 19th, 2012
4:20 pm

Meanwhile….

“Congressional budget analysts are now estimating that nearly 6 million Americans – most of them in the middle class – will have to pay a tax penalty for not getting health insurance once President Barack Obama’s health care law is fully in place.

That’s 2 million more than a previous estimate found, or a 50 percent increase. The average penalty will be nearly $1,200.

Starting in 2014, the new health care law requires virtually every legal resident of the U.S. to carry health insurance, or face a tax penalty. The Supreme Court upheld Obama’s law as constitutional after finding that the penalty fell within the power of Congress to impose taxes.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said today the penalty will raise $6.9 billion when fully in effect in 2016. ”

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2012/09/19/tax-penalty-to-hit-nearly-6m-uninsured-people.html

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
4:21 pm

Yeah, Holder didn’t do anything. Just ask him.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 19th, 2012
4:22 pm

The con’s will never ever believe it.

But tough.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:22 pm

AG Holder ought to send Congressman Issa a box of chocolates (ala Forrest Gump) that plays “Thanks for the Memories” when opened.

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
4:24 pm

Just like OJ. Holder is innocent.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 19th, 2012
4:24 pm

Tick…tick…tick….

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:24 pm

Common Sense

Fo-cus.

Jay

September 19th, 2012
4:25 pm

““Congressional budget analysts are now estimating that nearly 6 million Americans – most of them in the middle class – will have to pay a tax penalty for not getting health insurance once President Barack Obama’s health care law is fully in place.

Great!!! These people shouldn’t be allowed to free-ride off the rest of us, knowing that if they get in an accident or something the hospital will treat them anyway. If they’re going to enjoy that protection, they ought to at least pay something for it, especially since most of them will be in the middle class and could conceivably afford it anyway.

Personal responsiblity, right guys?

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:26 pm

Impeach issa.

Common Sense

September 19th, 2012
4:26 pm

BTW, who does the Inspector General work for again? Some guy NAMED Holder?

Joe The Plumber Too

September 19th, 2012
4:27 pm

Internal Justice Department Investigation found their empty suit leader innocent of any wrongdoing………..WOW……..Huge news, Jay.

Scrivener

September 19th, 2012
4:27 pm

OJ was found not guilty, too. Big difference in “not guilty” and “innocent.” What they said was they found no evidence that he knew earlier. Obama’s executive order to hide the documents speaks for itself.

Filter

September 19th, 2012
4:27 pm

Only five posts to a deflection. Pretty good.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:29 pm

“Personal responsiblity, right guys?”

That’s a Democratic position, Jay, not a Republican position.

Edward

September 19th, 2012
4:29 pm

Yes, the “conservatives” are only for THEIR freeloaders, not the liberal ones. /s

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:29 pm

Now they are calling half the country “parasites” on cnn.

Good grief.

What is wrong with these people?

Common Sense

September 19th, 2012
4:29 pm

” If they’re going to enjoy that protection, they ought to at least pay something for it, especially since most of them will be in the middle class and could conceivably afford it anyway.”

If you are talking personal responsibility, then I am sure you meant they should pay all of their expenses, right?

After all, they chose NOT to have insurance.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

September 19th, 2012
4:29 pm

So Holder runs the DOJ but he really doesn’t know what’s going on. Yeah…that’s good.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 19th, 2012
4:31 pm

Well, I don’t care what that report says. Holder is guilty. It’s true if I want it to be true. Like all real Conservatives, I got my own version of reality. And it ain’t yours, Bookman.

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:31 pm

I pay for my health insurance.

Pay up parasites.

GA Dawg

September 19th, 2012
4:31 pm

dudn’t matter. Everyone nows that Guns don’t kill People. People kill people.

Common Sense

September 19th, 2012
4:32 pm

“” If they’re going to enjoy that protection, they ought to at least pay something for it,”

You actually hit the nail on the head with that statement. The leftist model is if you paid a little something, you are entitled to a lifetime of benefits, after all,

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:33 pm

Before any more bloggers reveal their ignorance about the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General, they may just want to hold off posting and read a little about it.
http://www.justice.gov/oig/

“The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) in the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) is a statutorily created independent entity [[that means Congress created it]] whose mission is to detect and deter waste, fraud, abuse, and misconduct in DOJ programs and personnel, and to promote economy and efficiency in those programs. The Inspector General, who is appointed by the President subject to Senate confirmation, reports to the Attorney General and Congress. [[Didja catch the "AND CONGRESS" part, bloggers?]] The OIG investigates alleged violations of criminal and civil laws by DOJ employees and also audits and inspects DOJ programs.”

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
4:33 pm

I wonder how many “On The Spot Awards” Holder gave out to the DOJ.

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
4:34 pm

That report has about as much value as a report from the Penn State athletic department circa 1997-2005 on any wrongdoing by Joe Paterno in regards to Jerry Sandusky.

Also won’t that tax about to hit 6 million according to the CBO affect some of those you were making the case to redistribute to in your last piece?

Which is it? Trying to help them out or take more money from their pocket?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 19th, 2012
4:34 pm

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:29 pm
Now they are calling half the country “parasites” on cnn.

Good grief.

What is wrong with these people?

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Bain Damage

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:35 pm

Steve

“So Holder runs the DOJ but he really doesn’t know what’s going on. Yeah…that’s good.”

Not too familiar with the realities of large organizations, are you?

Next you’ll be criticizing the Chief of Staff of the Army because some battalion commander went off on a half-cocked mission before clearing it with the four-star -

Steve

September 19th, 2012
4:37 pm

It doesn’t matter. Conservatives hate Democrats and Obama so much, it wouldn’t matter if Obama cured cancer and Romney admitted to be a child molester…their partisan views won’t budge, nor will their hatred for “libruls” and “dimwit democrats.”

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
4:37 pm

“Great!!! These people shouldn’t be allowed to free-ride off the rest of us”

I agree Jay. Pay up or die.

Joseph

September 19th, 2012
4:37 pm

Oh Jay… You really look foolish on this bud. The Justice Dept did this investigation. Who is the boss of the DOJ? Eric Holder! Do you really think he would admit he’s guilty? This is laughable.

Joseph

September 19th, 2012
4:38 pm

This is like a kid taking a test and getting to grade his own paper….

TM

September 19th, 2012
4:38 pm

Looks like the only one exonerated was Holder. Not a good report about our Justice department. To use a NCAA football term there appeared to be a lack of internal controls.

JamVet

September 19th, 2012
4:38 pm

Yet more bad news in a horrific summer for the Party of No.

Stay the course, cons!

In less than seven weeks your agony will end. (At least the Mittens part of the equation…)

Aquagirl

September 19th, 2012
4:38 pm

That report has about as much value as a report from the Penn State athletic department circa 1997-2005 on any wrongdoing by Joe Paterno in regards to Jerry Sandusky.

Shorter Marty: “I reject your reality and substitute my own!”

Tough week for the cons, I can’t blame y’all for retreating to your treehouses and pulling up the ladder.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:39 pm

Common Sense

“You actually hit the nail on the head with that statement. The leftist model is if you paid a little something, you are entitled to a lifetime of benefits, after all,”

Actually, the point Jay was making was that under ACA, the Republican model is that people should have the right to have a lifetime of freeloading by not having insurance for themselves and their families and the people with insurance will pay for their costs.

Peadawg

September 19th, 2012
4:39 pm

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/19/13966931-senate-republicans-kill-veterans-jobs-bill?lite

“Veterans won’t be getting a new, billion-dollar jobs program, not from this Senate. Republicans on Wednesday afternoon blocked a vote on the Veterans Job Corps Bill after Jeff Sessions of Alabama raised a point of order — he said the bill violated a cap on spending agreed to by Congress last year.

The bill’s sponsor, Patty Murray of Washington, said that shouldn’t matter, since the bill’s cost was fully offset by new revenues. She said Mr. Sessions and his party colleagues had been furiously generating excuses to oppose the bill, and were now exploiting a technicality to deny thousands of veterans a shot at getting hired as police officers, firefighters and parks workers, among other things.”

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
4:43 pm

Aquagirl
September 19th, 2012
4:38 pm

Yep always easier to lump everyone into small groups so not to cause a headache from over thinking?

Sorry to disappoint but I wasn’t ever one of the ones calling loud to blame Holder.

But to say well this proves it he did nothing wrong, nothing to see move along…..

Well I can’t agree with that either. They both seem funny to me.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:43 pm

Sigh…. a link gets posted showing the DOJ/IG was created by Congress and reports to Congress…. and the cons blow by it like it’s a mirage….. sigh……

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:43 pm

mary matalin called half our country parasites.

Frum calls it deplorable.

He lives in the real world.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 19th, 2012
4:47 pm

Has Romney made a public appearance condeming Holder before reading the report yet?

Erwin's cat

September 19th, 2012
4:48 pm

They didn’t extortionate that!

Southern Pride

September 19th, 2012
4:49 pm

Hey, Jay, there’s one thing you and I have in common! I predicted that Holder would be exonerated too, as soon as it was announced that the Justice Department would be investigating the Justice Department.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 19th, 2012
4:49 pm

Peadawg – “Republicans on Wednesday afternoon blocked a vote on the Veterans Job Corps Bill”

Hey, if they didn’t have such a “victim” mentality and would actually take responsibility for themselves, they wouldn’t need that bill. Just ask Mitt.

JamVet

September 19th, 2012
4:49 pm

Marty, have you read the very first word of what is in that report?

Yet you discount it out of hand?

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
4:49 pm

Paul
September 19th, 2012
4:43 pm

I read what you posted and found this in the 1st paragraph.

It seems it was appointed but the president and answers to the attorney general (Holder) AND to congress.
I’m sure it was an accidental omission on your behalf

“The Inspector General, who is appointed by the President subject to Senate confirmation, reports to the Attorney General and Congress”

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:50 pm

Republicans that live in the real world will vote for our President so I am trying not to attack them but when mitt pivots to insulting half our country, I think it is time for them to stand up like Frum.

These insults to half of America are dangerous and reckless.

Tundra Dude

September 19th, 2012
4:50 pm

Congressional budget analysts are now estimating that nearly 6 million Americans – most of them in the middle class – will have to pay a tax penalty for not getting health insurance

Actually, there’s no need to penalize them.
Simply refuse to serve them, even at the ER. Problem solved.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:50 pm

Southern Pride

Who does the DOJ Inspector General report to?

You libs

September 19th, 2012
4:50 pm

I hope I don’t get any stuff from these heads exploding all over the inside of my screen.

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
4:50 pm

Romney should say they may take another look at this if elected.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:51 pm

Marty Huggins

I did not omit that. I posted it at 4:33.

Erwin's cat

September 19th, 2012
4:52 pm

Paul – are you suggesting they didn’t find the boss guilty of any impropriety?

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
4:52 pm

JamVet
September 19th, 2012
4:49 pm

Yes.

I have not read the entire report but have read (skimmed) about 1/2

Have you read the report or better yet did you take a moment to consider maybe I had read some or any of the report?

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 19th, 2012
4:53 pm

Orange12 – “Romney should say they may take another look at this if elected.”

Absolutely, I don’t think he’s hurt his chances for election enough these past 2 weeks.

Aquagirl

September 19th, 2012
4:53 pm

I read what you posted and found this in the 1st paragraph.

And stopped right there, because there were just too many words.

JamVet

September 19th, 2012
4:54 pm

mary matalin called half our country parasites.

Just another depraved, batshiite crazy con woman…

getalife

September 19th, 2012
4:54 pm

Just accept the facts cons .

Holder is innocent.

Deal with it.

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
4:55 pm

Paul
September 19th, 2012
4:43 pm

Sigh…. a link gets posted showing the DOJ/IG was created by Congress and reports to Congress…. and the cons blow by it like it’s a mirage….. sigh……

——————————–

But it appears in your sigh and subsequent criticism of those whodisagree you did omit it when using your own words.

As I said I am sure it was not your intent.

Troy Tripp

September 19th, 2012
4:56 pm

Fortune Magazine published a report on ‘Fast and Furious’ back in June that basically demolished the claims against Holder and found the operation never, in fact, walked a single gun. Other than a couple of days on the CNN web site, I don’t recall seeing any news organization pick up on this, either to support it or refute it. Say, Mr. Bookman, maybe you can take a look?

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:56 pm

Erwin’s Cat

“Paul – are you suggesting they didn’t find the boss guilty of any impropriety?”

I’m discussing the charge the DOJ/IG’s reports are worthless because he reports to the AG and to Congress.

Jay discussed the findings

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
4:57 pm

Butch@453

Is Obama running away with this election? I thought the polls were kind of close.

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
4:57 pm

Aquagirl
September 19th, 2012
4:53 pm

Do you have a point or am I just the leg and you the dog right now?

Lord Help Us

September 19th, 2012
4:57 pm

‘Independent voters who heard Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s comments at a fundraiser that the 47 percent of Americans who don’t pay federal income taxes are “dependent upon government” have a negative view of statement, according to a new poll.’

As Peggy Noonan says, ‘time for an intervention.’

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 19th, 2012
4:58 pm

Paul, I noted you posted information on the independence of the office of the investigators in anticipation of claims of “fix” by Holder….. welcome to the blog, you must be a first time visitor :D :lol:

Paul

September 19th, 2012
4:59 pm

Marty Huggins

Those attempting to discredit the report already acknowledged the IG reported to the AG. I was reiterating, as the link from the DOG/IG website stated, the AG also reports to Congress.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
5:00 pm

Keep Up

Obviously, I’m still getting my feet wet -

Oscar

September 19th, 2012
5:00 pm

Dude “Actually, there’s no need to penalize them.
Simply refuse to serve them, even at the ER. Problem solved.”

_______

Can’t do that. Not Christian. Or Jewish.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 19th, 2012
5:00 pm

Orange12 – “Is Obama running away with this election? I thought the polls were kind of close.”

Exactly, Romney should be miles ahead. But the fact that he can’t even pass the President speaks volumes.

You libs

September 19th, 2012
5:01 pm

Issa should be held in contempt.

Jay

September 19th, 2012
5:01 pm

Troy, I recall that story. I read it, and had a lot of questions/doubts that I would like answered before I would embrace it as credible. It might be useful to go back now and compare the IG’s report to the findings of that story, but I haven’t yet done that.

luangtom

September 19th, 2012
5:01 pm

Isn’t it ironic that Justice investigates Justice? What happened to an independent investigation? Is it not a bit coincidental that two top staffers take one for the team and the AG? The main-stream media coverage of this and other incidents in this administration smacks of pre-war German media when it fed the voters there lies long enough and often enough for them to believe that administration. Is history repeating itself here?

barking frog

September 19th, 2012
5:01 pm

AG’s know only what they
need to know, like other
high officials. I believe it is
called “deniability”.

Aquagirl

September 19th, 2012
5:02 pm

Do you have a point or am I just the leg and you the dog right now?

I gotta admit….that one cracked me up.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 19th, 2012
5:02 pm

Oscar – “Can’t do that. Not Christian. Or Jewish.”

You forgot to add that it would be disrespectful to Reagan, who actually made it a requirement to admit them. God knows that the GOP can’t poop on the policies of Saint Ronnie.

Lord Help Us

September 19th, 2012
5:03 pm

‘What happened to an independent investigation?’

Darrell Issa works for the Justice Dept?

JamVet

September 19th, 2012
5:03 pm

Marty, I have not.

I merely asked if you had. And if you had, if you discounted it out of hand.

I do not weigh in on such matters, in any specificity, without reading them at length.

To do so is to do………………… what plenty of others here do!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 19th, 2012
5:03 pm

Well of course the only investigation that can be trusted is the one that finds Holder guilty…. I mean Issa failed to hear testimony from a number of sources so that he could not be distracted by facts to achieve his outcome.

Paul, just a warning… the pool that you are wading is to wet your feet is not water. :D :lol:

Paul

September 19th, 2012
5:04 pm

luangtom

You’re just on the first page of posts. Did you read thru the others before you posted? ’cause if you did….

alittlecommonsense

September 19th, 2012
5:04 pm

Ok, there was a HUGE screwup. Everyone admits that. Holder was at the top. It’s his responsibility. At best, he was ignorant of a hugely sensitive operation going on in his department and didn’t perjure himself about it.
At worst, he knew about it, did it for political reasons (blame the U.S. for the gun problem in Mexico), and perjured himself.
So the truth is probably somewhere in between those two statements. Nowhere in there does he come out smelling like a rose.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 19th, 2012
5:05 pm

Firearm homicides in the USA in 2009: 11,493.

Guns walking across borders don’t kill border patrol agents any more than guns in inner cities kill gangbangers, right?

SwamiDave

September 19th, 2012
5:07 pm

Heh.

An internal investigation by the foxes found that the leader of the foxes was innocent of all accusations related to chicken coops. They found that there was indeed wrong-doing by a lot of lower-level foxes in this unfortunate and ill-advised chain of events, but their leader is cleared.

Maybe the Mafia should handle all investigations of organized crime too…….

-SD

JamVet

September 19th, 2012
5:08 pm

I thought the polls were kind of close.

In the only one that matters – the electoral college – no, it is not all that close.

Obama – 247
Romney – 191
Toss up – 100

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

markie mark

September 19th, 2012
5:08 pm

Jay, my work does not provide insurance any longer…..for me and my wife, the cheapest we can find is $680 per month, with the highest deductable they offer….I just flat plain cant afford it. And now I am going to get fined for something I cant afford. Thanks, Jay, for your support for this marvelous freakin idea….and everything that I see, the costs are NOT coming down…now or ever.

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
5:09 pm

JamVet
September 19th, 2012
5:03 pm

I was skeptical of the report before I read the report based upon who was doing the report yes!

But I tend not to trust a government report reporting on government not without an outside report to compare it to.

Guess I don’t trust the government too much or maybe just the politicians involved.

Obambarrassment

September 19th, 2012
5:09 pm

An internal Justice Department investigation ….. ?????

Are we born yesterday, Mr. Bookman??

With such a high level cabinet position under the gun, there should have been an independent prosecutor.

Bet you liberals wish Clinton had done this “internal report” nonsense with Lewinsky, don’t you?

Difference is that Clinton had an iota of shame and the sense that the media might turn on him if he didn’t allow an independent prosecutor.

Obama needn’t worry about either or those things. He has none and the media never would.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 19th, 2012
5:11 pm

I just flat plain cant afford it. And now I am going to get fined for something I cant afford

If the insurance rate is higher than a certain percentage of your income, you may qualify for Medicaid to cover you. Oh, wait, the governor doesn’t want to pay for that. I recommend you move to a more liberal state where they treat their people better than they treat their livestock.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
5:11 pm

Keep Up

Thanks…. but too late to put on my Welllies…..

BTW, I see more and more bloggers are going with the “but the Justice Department investigated itself?!!?” line.

Ab-so-lutely amazingly normal for this blog….

Obambarrassment

September 19th, 2012
5:12 pm

Let’s all try and remember that Obama fires IG’s he doesn’t like: (without consequences)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124511811033017539.html

Carlos

September 19th, 2012
5:13 pm

Why was Fast and Furious important? Because the GOP operatives have searched high and low for something to use to smear Obama and this was something they thought they could use. This whole thing was a lot like Whitewater, except they didn’t luck up this time and find a blue dress. God, they must miss those days.

Orange12

September 19th, 2012
5:13 pm

JamVet,

That’s dismal

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 19th, 2012
5:13 pm

Sigh…. a link gets posted showing the DOJ/IG was created by Congress and reports to Congress…. and the cons blow by it like it’s a mirage….. sigh……

And it will continue to be ignored.

Marty Huggins'

September 19th, 2012
5:14 pm

markie mark
September 19th, 2012
5:08 pm

No jay was concerned for those who will be taxed by the new health care law was his last post. That one is for you.
See this is an issue Obama And Democrats have championed therefore Jay cannot help but to support it.
Regardless of what he has written only hours before.

Paul

September 19th, 2012
5:14 pm

markie mark

“Jay, my work does not provide insurance any longer…..for me and my wife, the cheapest we can find is $680 per month, with the highest deductable they offer….I just flat plain cant afford it. And now I am going to get fined for something I cant afford. Thanks, Jay, for your support for this marvelous freakin idea….and everything that I see, the costs are NOT coming down…now or ever.”

You’ll get subsidies that may cover almost the entire cost.

Unless Romney gets in and issues a repeal. Then you’ll be where you are now.

Oscar

September 19th, 2012
5:15 pm

Ronnie R. had the law passed that requires emergency rooms to treat everyone. Slipped my mind. How could anyone think of changing something Ronnie was in favor of?
(Disclosure: I voted for him twice – even against home boy Jimmie.)

mississippi

September 19th, 2012
5:16 pm

Markie Mark – you better hope you don’t get sick or hit by a wrong way driver here in Atlanta. It’ll cost you a lot more than $680 a month.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 19th, 2012
5:17 pm

I just flat plain cant afford it. And now I am going to get fined for something I cant afford.

Well obviously if you have a refrigator, a TV, internet access, a computer and/or a phone you are living high on the hog and certainly should cut out those things so you can afford it. Or just work harder. Poverty is obviously your choice.

Aside from the standard conned response, there are suppose to be programs to help and if you cannot afford it, I understand that there are exemptions from the fine. The fine applies only to those who can afford it but chose not to and thus try to burden us all if the isks they chose fall against them.