A sordid trek through the right-wing fantasy swamps

Whew.

I just returned from a trek through the fever swamps of the right, and I have to say, the trip was a bit unnerving. My goal was to track a particular piece of right-wing nonsense down to its source, in hopes that I might learn something about those who generate such stories, those who disseminate them and those who are willing to swallow them hook, line and sinker, time and time again.

This time, our trip starts with this rather startling headline from Redstate:

redstate

Now, if true, that would be a major story to say the least. It would also be the most stupid act of political suicide imaginable. It is inconceivable to any sane person that any American administration would consider releasing the mastermind of attacks on the World Trade Center that killed six Americans, injured more than a thousand and served as the precursor for the later attacks of Sept. 11. There is no rational universe in which that could be true.

Ahhhh, but the Redstate post contains actual links that purport to document the sensational claim it makes in its headline. Let’s see where the links take us, shall we?

One link takes us to a column in the Weekly Standard, in which it is suggested that the turmoil in Libya and Egypt may actually be motivated by extremist hopes of getting Rahman freed. That is certainly a feasible theory, because the blind sheikh is a hero to many Islamist radicals. However, that same column goes on to point out the obvious, that “it is inconceivable that Rahman will be released.”

Oddly, Redstate never mentions that fact.

The other link takes us here:

blaze

That’s the headline at The Blaze, a conservative “news and opinion” site. It was founded by Glenn Beck two years ago because, as he put it, “Too many important stories are overlooked. And too many times, we see mainstream media outlets distorting facts to fit rigid agendas.”

Because distorting facts to fit rigid agendas is a bad thing. Why distort when you can just make things up wholesale?

However, note the Blaze headline. At Redstate we were told outright that Obama is negotiating the release of Abdel-Rahman. If we trace the craziness back one generation, we are told that the State Department is merely “considering” such talks that in turn could lead to Abdel-Rahman’s release.

And the alleged source for this “story of the decade?”

“A veteran intelligence analyst and researcher for The Blaze said he met with an official within the Obama administration who told him that the transfer of the blind sheikh to Egypt is something that is being “actively considered” by the administration.”

We also learn that “Glenn Beck revealed the controversial news on his show Monday.”

As if that weren’t confirmation enough, The Blaze also calls upon the services of one Andrew C. McCarthy, who in an earlier life led the prosecution team that put the blind sheikh behind bars. However, McCarthy now writes for the National Review, where his unique role in the conservative ecosystem includes lending false gravitas to pure nonsense, usually involving Muslims.  In return for prostituting what is left of his credibility, he gets a degree of celebrity and attention, and he seems to be pleased by the deal.

This is what he told The Blaze:

“I think the plan has been to agree to the Blind Sheikh’s release but not to announce it or have it become public until after the election. That is consistent with Obama’s pattern of trying to mollify Islamists,” he added. “Obviously, they did not want this information to surface yet… but sometimes a situation can spin out of control.”

Given such wings, the story that Obama will soon release a prominent terrorist leader to his fellow Muslim has now begun flying around the conservative echo chamber, see here and here and here. The Twitterverse is also alive with the story, with Obama being accused of treason for daring to release a convicted terrorist.

And at Redstate, of course, the commenters are going nuts. “Are you (blanking) kidding me? Try Obama and the Justice Department for treason, please. And then throw the weakling Obama out of office. Dear sweet Jesus, save us from these morons,” writes one poster.

Ordinarily, other posters might, just maybe, come on the site and explain just how foolish and indeed stupid it is to believe such things. But the auto-correct function on Redstate has been dismantled; anybody who might dare to point out that the story is absolutely fantasy would be banned immediately.

For a ridiculous story such as this, however, true success comes only when it gains sufficient velocity in the RightWing Fantasy SuperAccelerator to exit its confines and force its way into the mainstream media. And indeed, just a few minutes ago, Jake Tapper of ABC News was forced to tweet that “WH says there’s no truth to the rumor that the State Dept is considering talks to transfer the “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel-Rahman to Egypt.”

But of course, that’s exactly what they would say, now isn’t it?

– Jay Bookman

633 comments Add your comment

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
4:39 pm

Firsties! On a liberal blog!!

Doggone/GA

September 18th, 2012
4:42 pm

Cue “the truth hurts” posts in 3 – 2 -1

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
4:42 pm

Also, I might add, even though I NEVER read Bookman’s blog, (I’m scared I may learn something that wasn’t said on Fox News); I like to come on here to say these few words, and bookman I mean them from my heart:

YOU LIBERAL HACK BOOKMAN!!! YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!!!

Whew! I feel better now. Don’t want anyone think i actually LIKE to come on here because I’m actually incredibly lonely and have no friends and I don’t have anything else to do.

Why I have at least 3 days of comments from Dr. Laura that I could post on this blog today alone!

M

September 18th, 2012
4:44 pm

I hope you got all your vaccinations before you went in there.

M

September 18th, 2012
4:45 pm

And I read a piece on RedState’s new policy the other day…the one where they say if you bring any fact-checking into their forums, you will be banned.

Absolutely amazing.

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
4:46 pm

“Too many important stories are overlooked. And too many times, we see mainstream media outlets distorting facts to fit rigid agendas.” – Glenn Beck

Makes sense to me.

kitty

September 18th, 2012
4:48 pm

vaccinations and a barf bag….probably shook your head so often, Jay, you need to go see your chiropractor, huh?

getalife

September 18th, 2012
4:48 pm

Eastwood:”Gop are dumb enough to ask me.”

cons got punked by Clint.

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
4:50 pm

“Are you (blanking) kidding me? Try Obama and the Justice Department for treason, please. And then throw the weakling Obama out of office. Dear sweet Jesus, save us from these morons,” writes one poster.

Why can’t your twisted liberal mind see that this man speaks the truth?!! Is liberalism a disease?! I mean think Man!

Obama = Osama without the “S”!!

Can’t you see it? What is WRONG with you people?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 18th, 2012
4:50 pm

Well if it is on the internet it must be true….

Jay, you forgot to put in the info about a high-ranking Nigerian official and how, being honest bloggers whose names are not known, we can help get the money over to the US.

When exactly can we expect the James O’keefe video blaming ACORN for all of this?

TaxPayer

September 18th, 2012
4:52 pm

There is no low that a Republican cannot or will not breach.

Aquagirl

September 18th, 2012
4:52 pm

cons got punked by Clint

Go easy on the cons. They’d fire back and defend themselves if the darned ambassador would let them have ammo.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 18th, 2012
4:52 pm

And Senior Digits posts the spam email about this in 3…..2…..1…

Brosephus™

September 18th, 2012
4:53 pm

Jay

You realize that you’re going to be blasted for trying to relay the most recent talking points to downplay the “truth” in an effort to mislead lefties, right? Sounds like you had one heck of an adventure though. Hopefully you didn’t laugh yourself into a headache or stomach cramps.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 18th, 2012
4:53 pm

I expect we’ll see quite a few of these before the election.

Remember Granny’s #1 rule of politics….If it sounds like BS, it probably is.

Last week it was that the embassy guards had no ammo.

getalife

September 18th, 2012
4:55 pm

Getting ugly now,

drudgey post video of our President from 1998.

The dems will post videos of romney 2012.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 18th, 2012
4:55 pm

vaccinations? That thar is flesh-eating bacteria. You need a haz mat suit and flamethrower.

Adam

September 18th, 2012
4:56 pm

Even I read that headline and thought “Oh My God, it’s over for him”

Then I read the rest of Jay’s article. Whew is right.

Adam

September 18th, 2012
4:57 pm

M: And I read a piece on RedState’s new policy the other day…the one where they say if you bring any fact-checking into their forums, you will be banned.

Link! Give me a link!

jewcowboy

September 18th, 2012
4:57 pm

So much stoopid.

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
4:59 pm

You liberals and your liberal hero worship of the chosen one, Obama. This is what I read that Obama said the other day:

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

WTF does that mean? Its just more elitist crap from some super educated blow hard with his Ivy league education trying to make the working man look dumb!

Well, mr. elitist, thank God i have Fox News to explain all that elitists crap that you’re saying to me!

Fox News translated that jibberish Obama said, and broke it down to me. This is what Obama really said:

“I Hate Whitey”.

getalife

September 18th, 2012
5:00 pm

You will hear about “redistribution” many times.

Aquagirl

September 18th, 2012
5:00 pm

You need a haz mat suit and flamethrower.

It’s too late now. We’ll have to isolate Jay immediately in a sterile, airtight container and shoot him into space.

King of Wishful Thinking

September 18th, 2012
5:00 pm

That’s what Colbert calls “Truthiness”

Don Abernethy

September 18th, 2012
5:00 pm

Lets just divide the country in half and give the Democrats the western half and Replublicans the eastern half. I think everyone would be much happier.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 18th, 2012
5:01 pm

I hear Omar Abdel-Rahman is jonesing for an invite to one of those Romney fundraisers in the Hamptons.

Adam

September 18th, 2012
5:01 pm

http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/11/quote-a-factchecker-earn-a-ban/

I’ve pretty much had it with the grotesque turn the various “fact checking” organizations have taken. “Politifact” is little more than a bunch of shills, devoid of even the vestiges of integrity, that sling about “pants on fire” ratings to any GOP or conservative politician.

Wow.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 18th, 2012
5:01 pm

Holy crap!

If you’re just gonna make sh*t up, there’s no sense in being half-assed about it.

jewcowboy

September 18th, 2012
5:01 pm

getalife,

“cons got punked by Clint.”

Rumor is, the only other celebrities identifying as Republican willing to be on tv at the RNC were Ted Nugent and Mel Gibson.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 18th, 2012
5:02 pm

Here you go Adam…. http://www.redstate.com/posting-rules/

6. It is forbidden to promote or give any kind of support for parties other than the Republican party, or candidates running against Republican primary, caucus, and/or convention nominees. Exceptions to this rule are granted when announced prominently on the front page of the site.
7. Promotion of certain theories and ideas contrary to our site principles is not allowed. ….

13. The dissemination of talking points from the Democrat Party, or its politicians and allies, is not allowed.
14. It is forbidden to attempt to discredit or bring disharmony to the site, the Republican party, any of its candidates, or the conservative movement by pretending to be something one is not and posting maliciously. The practices known as “concern trolling” or “mobying” are included in this ban.

Now I need a shower.

skipper

September 18th, 2012
5:02 pm

Hey Jay,
Good Lord, you can find every bit as much lib kookiness……….you gotta search to find the red info you were lookin’ for. You can see lib stories EVERY DAY in any publication!

USA Patriot

September 18th, 2012
5:02 pm

Wow, sounds like a renowned CBS News anchor going after a certain individual for his missing time in the national guard…….D’oh! Say it ain’t so! Good piece of “journalism” there JB! Took ya all afternoon to figure that one out? Sheesh!

DublDawg

September 18th, 2012
5:02 pm

Hey, look what Romney and Erickson are doing!

Forget that the middle east is in chaos and Barry Soetero’s foreign policy is a dismal failure!

Forget that Barry Soetero was just criticizing Romney’s lack of foreign policy experience and expertise.

We loyal liberal bots must deflect, deflect, deflect!!

Paul

September 18th, 2012
5:03 pm

Their antipathy towards Obama is so great, their desire to believe the most unflattering, outlandish things about him is so extreme, that they will not, will not, even question anything they read that reinforces their preconceived ideas.

And they cannot understand or make a connection with the fanaticism they see in the Mideast rioting.

getalife

September 18th, 2012
5:04 pm

kitty

September 18th, 2012
5:05 pm

Brosephus, it would be absolutely hilarious except people actually believe this BS. Those people vote and there seem to be more of them all the time as the US dumbs down. Scares the you know what out of me. It isn’t funny anymore.

That Black Guy

September 18th, 2012
5:05 pm

Jay, why is my post still in moderation downstairs. Even after I removed the questionable word.

JBC it was a reply to you.

Simple Truths

September 18th, 2012
5:06 pm

“In return for prostituting what is left of his credibility, he gets a degree of celebrity and attention, and he seems to be pleased by the deal.”

Excellent description of this blog’s author.

getalife

September 18th, 2012
5:06 pm

dbldawg,

Are you okay?

Just Saying..

September 18th, 2012
5:07 pm

Warn Kyle…

Doggone/GA

September 18th, 2012
5:07 pm

“And they cannot understand or make a connection with the fanaticism they see in the Mideast rioting.”

Ever since the rioting started a little bell has been ringing in the back of my mind: “this sounds familiar” and it’s taken me a few days to nail it down. Granted, we didn’t have riots or shells lobbed into buildings, but leaving out the extremism…we had something similar when “Jesus Christ Superstar” was playing. People picketing who hadn’t even SEEN it, but were against it just because they were dumb enough to believe what they were told about it.

Lord Help Us

September 18th, 2012
5:08 pm

The RedState rules seem to be that you can make up absolute BS if it is bad for Obama, but you cannot call BS on the BS…

Gotta keep holes out of the echo chamber…

Skip

September 18th, 2012
5:08 pm

How long before a con topic change?

Jay

September 18th, 2012
5:09 pm

Then go ahead, skipper, have at it. If it’s so easy, show us a comparable example.

I’m not saying they don’t exist. Cynthia McKinneys looniness would be one example, but that was a while ago and she was voted out of office as a consequence of it. The Diebold voting machine theory was another.

But no, both in terms of sheer number and sheer lunacy, there is no comparison between right and left. However, if you care to try to document otherwise, again, be my guest.

DannyX

September 18th, 2012
5:09 pm

This of course is just the tip of the iceberg. Barry Hussein Soetero is a communist. Watch this riveting video from famous Tea Party activist Victoria Jackson for the details. Victoria is a very well respected member of the Tea Party. The new American realty is real, get used to it crazy libs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8&feature=player_embedded#!

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
5:10 pm

Their antipathy towards Obama is so great, their desire to believe the most unflattering, outlandish things about him is so extreme, that they will not, will not, even question anything they read that reinforces their preconceived ideas.

Why should we question it? If it was on Redstate then it must be true!!

My God libs! Wake UP!!!

This man, this muslim man, is going to destroy us all!! Haven’t you seen the Manchurian Candidate?

Didn’t you know that it was written by Obama’s Mama? It was her BLUEPRINT on how she was going to foist Obama on us!

We Demand a Recall And a REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!

M

September 18th, 2012
5:11 pm

Wait a minute…it says, “But some animals are more equal than others” now? When did someone put that up there?

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:11 pm

I don’t think the Obama administration would release him to Egypt even after the election. But then again I didn’t think a Scottish court would release the Lockerbie bomber back to Libya.

Brosephus™

September 18th, 2012
5:12 pm

Holy crap!

If you’re just gonna make sh*t up, there’s no sense in being half-assed about it.

And it has been invoked by it’s namesake!!!! The Kamchak Corollary has made it’s appearance here.

:lol: :lol:

—————

I will also submit that the Doggone/GA Theory of Points should be added to this thread.

“If you have to lie to make a point, then you don’t really have a point to begin with.”
–Doggone/GA

:lol: :lol:

Brosephus™

September 18th, 2012
5:12 pm

kitty

I was referring to Jay laughing at reading all the stuff he had to in order to track that statement.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 18th, 2012
5:15 pm

This is too crazy even for drudgey as they have no links to this story.

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
5:15 pm

Forget that Barry Soetero was just criticizing Romney’s lack of foreign policy experience and expertise.

You are sooo right!!! How DARE he tell the truth about tell those lies on Romney! romney has plenty of foreign policy experience!!

do you think he could set up all of those factories in China and India without knowing how to talk to those people?! Without knowing how to “get things done”? Libs are soooo stupid.

saywhat?

September 18th, 2012
5:16 pm

Jay, I don’t know if you recall, but many, many months ago, I suggested you conduct an experiment. The experiment would be for you and some of your journalism buddies to concoct the most ridiculously outrageous anti-Obama stories you could, and then anonynmously plant them in the right wing echo chamber, with the winner being whomever’s story made it to mainstream media first. You refused the suggestion saying it would be an ethics violation on your part.

You have done the next best thing, but you have no way to absolutely prove the total falsehood of this particular story unless you definitively identify the original source and they admit to making it up. I still don’t see the ethics violation of my own experiment, as long as you document before hand (to be released at the end of the experiment) what you intend to do, what you expect to see as a result, etc etc the whole scientific method thingy. Seems like responsible investigative journalism to me. To be “fair and balanced”, you could simultaneously do the same thing with fantastical liberal “news”. It would be interesting to see if either side is more susceptible to such nonsense.

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:16 pm

“But no, both in terms of sheer number and sheer lunacy, there is no comparison between right and left.”

I don’t know about that Jay. Weren’t there radio ads on African american media outlets suggesting that Republicans were going to take away the right to vote for blacks and repeal or not renew the 1965 civil rights legislation?

And do you remember the liberals using the James Byrd tragedy to scare blacks by suggesting that blacks would be in danger if W was elected? I believe Shirley Franklin took some flak over that for participating in that race baiting radio ad.

Lord Help Us

September 18th, 2012
5:17 pm

‘This is too crazy even for drudgey as they have no links to this story.’

It won’t take long…they are feverishly trying to distract from the turd Mitt dropped in the punch bowl…

Paul

September 18th, 2012
5:17 pm

I think Jay’s found a cheap substitute for alcohol.

Only downside is, you skip all the fun and enjoyment and go straight to the hangover.

rivercard

September 18th, 2012
5:18 pm

We really need to help them with making some of this up, as it must be time consuming and burdensome to do so.

I heard from a friend of a friend, who’s uncle knew someone that once worked in the state department ,that Obama has been making secret calls to Ayman al-Zawahiriw to negotiate this release. Need phone records of White House reviewed immediately.

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
5:19 pm

I must leave you all – - but remember what Obama said:

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

And what Fox News (Thank god for Fox), tells us what he really MEANT:

“I Hate Whitey”.

Obama is a divider, a pretender, and he says RIDICULOUS things that makes no sense!!

Towncrier

September 18th, 2012
5:19 pm

Jay, do your blogs get “scrubbed” for any reason? Kamchak says they do. If so, would you mind sharing the reasons that they are and by whom?

Lord Help Us

September 18th, 2012
5:20 pm

I hear their is a tape of Michelle Obama calling out ‘whitey’ in Rev. Wright’s church…

jewcowboy

September 18th, 2012
5:20 pm

Paul,

“Only downside is, you skip all the fun and enjoyment and go straight to the hangover.”

Plus you wake up next to a very unattractive individual whose name you can not recall and in the need of penicillin.

Paul

September 18th, 2012
5:21 pm

Thulsa

It would seem if you have to go back that many years for just two examples then you haven’t exactly met the challenge Jay issued at 5:09.

nelson

September 18th, 2012
5:21 pm

I do sense some hostility from my fellow commenters. I always like to seek the higher ground. Now, is there a kernel of truth in the heretofore mentioned? Let us not jump to conclusions. There has been a policy of “appeasement” towards the muslim community and it has been met with all out, over the top hostility from them. Is not the Prez sort of stuck in a rut putting the onus on someone in L.A. for exercising his 1st Amendment Rights of ‘Freedom of Speech”also freedom of religion and freedom of the press, these are cherished freedoms and are the cornerstone of our consitution. We have to stand for what we believe.

Boris Badnoff

September 18th, 2012
5:22 pm

The one I read is the Blind Sheikh is being released to become a talk show host on CNBC and a blogger on the ajc. The latter would explain some of the posts on Bookman’s blog. But the president of Egypt whom the Foreign Policy of Our Beloved Messiah put into office is working for this very goal.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/13/Cairo-Riots-Were-Not-Over-Offensive-American-Movie-Freedom-of-Blind-Sheik-The-Goal

The poor blind sheikh didn’t even get to watch the Mohammed Movie much less Fatima Does Medina. Maybe all of those riots were really caused by fans upset about the replacement officials in NFL games.

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:23 pm

9/11 truthers. Yup. The left never says anything crazy do they Jay?

Manufactured documents by Dan Rather/60 minutes to ruin W weeks before the election. Yep. A reputable news program like 60 minutes and a network news anchor would never make up BS about cons would they Jay?

Jay

September 18th, 2012
5:23 pm

Crier, what do you mean by “scrubbed”?

DannyX

September 18th, 2012
5:23 pm

“It won’t take long…they are feverishly trying to distract from the turd Mitt dropped in the punch bowl”

Distracting from? Republicans are drinking it up and think it tastes great, “Ummmm, that’s some good Kool-Aid.”

Lord Help Us

September 18th, 2012
5:24 pm

‘Plus you wake up next to a very unattractive individual whose name you can not recall and in the need of penicillin.’

Also, you gnaw your arm off so you can get out without waking them up…

The Unknown Blogger

September 18th, 2012
5:24 pm

Weren’t there radio ads on African american media outlets suggesting that Republicans were going to take away the right to vote for blacks and repeal or not renew the 1965 civil rights legislation?

I had to respond — You are so RIGHT sir!! Those Voter Suppression Laws of 2012 (right before this year’s Presidential Election); are just a coincidence!!

No one’s trying to take away anyone’s right to vote — just make it extremely HARD for them to be able to!

If Obama would’ve never won the2008 election with such a massive voter turnout none of this would’ve happened!!

Skip

September 18th, 2012
5:24 pm

You left out the best part America really isn’t that crazy so Mitt doesn’t stand a chance.

saywhat?

September 18th, 2012
5:24 pm

I remember one liberal example from 5-6 years ago, regarding alleged Republican attempts to promote creationism theory (the earth is only 3000 years old crap)at the Grand Canyon of all places. Turned out to be made up.

That said, the liberal examples are extremely few and far between compared to the daily nonsense leaking from the overfilled dirty diaper that is Conservative thought.

nelson

September 18th, 2012
5:24 pm

My comment was not allowed because it was said it looks like i have already said that. Jay says the exact same stuff every day, he is a stalwart supporter of Prez O and he always gets on.

Jay

September 18th, 2012
5:26 pm

saywhat, that would be an interesting experiment for a sociologist or other academic. Seriously.

But again, in my business you can’t publish something that you know to be false with the expectation that you’ll come along later to “clean things up.” It just doesn’t work like that.

Li'l Aynie

September 18th, 2012
5:26 pm

That’s how the Republican agenda is formed: take a lie, toss it around, embellish it at every turn, finally roll it out as the FoxNews topic of the day!

Has anyone noticed how out of touch Romney is with his rank and file supporters, the ones that will actually deliver him the electoral votes of the poor Southern and midwestern states? He needs the vote of the unthinking, gullible rednecks in the “red” states that gain far more from the federal government than they contribute.

His rich, selfish supporters, ones like he addressed in Boca Raton, couldn’t cast enough votes to elect a small-town dogcatcher!

Romney has just spit on his own base! He trusts they’re too dumb to understand.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 18th, 2012
5:27 pm

I always like to seek the higher ground.

Puh-leeze.

You spammed this blog on every thread for days with some stupid story you probably got through a chain email.

“Higher ground” indeed. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Paul

September 18th, 2012
5:29 pm

Kamchak

In all fairness, he didn’t say compared to what.

Given what we read here, he’s got plenty of elasticity in making that claim.

Mama Says

September 18th, 2012
5:31 pm

Good stuff Jay,

Now I will wait on the blog in which you discuss the absolute lies told by Senate Majority leader Reid concerning Romneys taxes.

Then I will await the blog you post on the absolute fabrication that conservatives would rather see women die than give them protection via birth control. Then you can discuss the B.S. the left has promoted in order to keep the black vote.

I learned something interesting the other day. Seems after reconstruction in the era of Jim Crow the democrats passed laws aimed at voter suppression and intimidation. Stuff like IQ test and other means based testing for the poor and black voter. Seems that democrats assured the continued control of the black voter, and the southern states, by linking his vote to loans and housing. Vote conservative and you dont get a loan, vote lib you get it what you need. Blacks learned via the family tree that voting for dems was what they had to do. This slowly turned into the kids voting for the dems b/c that’s what mom and dad did. Now the grand kids are repeating the same mistake. You have institutionalized fear based voting and the fear has turned from the slave master to a denial of government benefits. Congrats on your efforts.

You see it’s a mistake because you guys have had the minority and poor vote for decades and you have done nothing to reverse the trends. Yet you propagate the lie. Why ? in order to maintain power and control. Your party is exactly what it says it hates.

Now of course you libs have managed to convince the poor and black that that history was propagated by those women hating racist cons. Odd that history says it was the libs who did the dirty deeds.
Tell the truth about those lies Jay, let the voter decide which is more important.

Your fantasy con world or your manipulative lib world in which at best the con lie results in nothing, as you say he will never be released. Problem is the lib lie is teaching our society to live off the government tit, all to the real benefit of liberal power.

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:32 pm

Paul,

Doesn’t matter if it was a few years ago. The sheer loonyness of the 9/11 truther movement, of the 60 minutes/ Dan Rather fiasco tells us that bogus stories are not the purview of the right only. The left has come up with quite a bit of it also. And if you go through every left wing pub or site every day you’re bound to find something bogus. But who the hell has time for that.

What is interesting is that the daily caller just reported that Obama’s DOJ is coordinating with Media matters to air stuff to dispute what critics were saying about the fast and furious scandal. The collusion looks to be pretty solid according to the 69 pages that they obtained via a freedom of information request.

When a tax exempt organization like media matters coordinates with and becomes a propoganda arm of the Obama administration that is bad. And it is far more serious than the trivial bit that Jay has posted here.

That Black Guy

September 18th, 2012
5:32 pm

Adam

September 18th, 2012
4:57 pm
M: And I read a piece on RedState’s new policy the other day…the one where they say if you bring any fact-checking into their forums, you will be banned.

Link! Give me a link!
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Adam…

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/09/11/truth-is-a-sword-best-honed-by-friction/

M

September 18th, 2012
5:33 pm

Hey look, someone else who doesn’t understand what the Southern Strategy did.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 18th, 2012
5:34 pm

Seems after reconstruction in the era of Jim Crow the democrats passed laws…

There’s your sign.

jewcowboy

September 18th, 2012
5:34 pm

Mama Says,

“Now I will wait on the blog in which you discuss the absolute lies told by Senate Majority leader Reid concerning Romneys taxes.”

If they are lies, why hasn’t Romney released his tax returns to prove them as such?

Towncrier

September 18th, 2012
5:34 pm

“There is no rational universe in which that could be true.”

Do you mean unlike the following universe:

=http://theweek.com/article/index/209371/4-ways-the-us-helped-nazi-war-criminals ?

“For a ridiculous story such as this, however, true success comes only when it gains sufficient velocity in the RightWing Fantasy SuperAccelerator to exit its confines and force its way into the mainstream media.”

Sort of like this:

=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

or this:

=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList

or this:

=http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/04/racism_101_at_duke.html ?

Jay

September 18th, 2012
5:36 pm

BTW, here’s another one. Remember that Vegas fundraiser that Obama flew out to attend after the assassination of our ambassador?

There was no fundraiser. The “fundraiser” angle was invented to make it sound worse.

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:36 pm

“No one’s trying to take away anyone’s right to vote — just make it extremely HARD for them to be able to!”

Getting a photo id is “extremely hard”? Just how hard is it to sit at home and have the state come to your home, take a pic, and make you an Id on the spot? And at no cost? Real hard isn’t it?

JamVet

September 18th, 2012
5:38 pm

…absolute fabrication that conservatives would rather see women die than give them protection via birth control.

Nonetheless, the ignoramus factor in the GOP – and in this case, the Georgia GOP – is undeniable…

http://vimeo.com/38048437#

Towncrier

September 18th, 2012
5:38 pm

“Crier, what do you mean by “scrubbed”?

I have been searching for posts I know I made in response to another poster’s claim that the GOP never gets more than x% of a certain ethnic group’s vote – both on the AJC site and through Google. Nothing. That’s what I mean. I found one post that summarizes what I said previously, but I am unable to locate the post in which I linked to a data source to refute his assertion.

Aquagirl

September 18th, 2012
5:39 pm

Jay, you should post Mama Says’ 5:31 on your wall. See what happens when you wander into the Fantasy Swamp? That’s how you end up.

I’m telling you, get in the space capsule now. We’ll make it quick.

jewcowboy

September 18th, 2012
5:39 pm

“BTW, here’s another one.”

Or the disgusting rumor they are floating that Stevens was raped before and after his death, because the attackers knew he was gay (even though no one else seems to know this).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/right-wing-bloggers-say-a_b_1888990.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices

Ahem

September 18th, 2012
5:39 pm

Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Obama Convention Bounce Fades
The latest Gallup tracking data show that Barack Obama now leads Mitt Romney by one percentage point, 47% to 46% among registered voters, where the race was on Aug. 31-Sept. 3, before the Democratic Convention began.

During the interim period, Obama stretched his lead to as high as 50% to 43%, confirming a Democratic Convention bounce. We began to see Obama’s lead expanding on Tuesday night of the convention, and then saw it begin to dissipateon Wednesday the week after the convention.

The latest Gallup Daily tracking average extends from Sept. 11-17, 2012. This data includes one night of interviewing with the high level of news media focus on Romney’s videotaped “47%” comments. The impact of those comments, if any, will be seen in interviewing in the days to come.

The dominant theme in the race this year has been its central tendency. Neither candidate has been able to maintain a sustained lead for a lengthy period of time. It appears now that the Democratic convention was successful in boosting Obama’s standing in ours and other polls, but the gravitational pull of the race back to a rough parity was apparently not eradicated, and has exercised its will again.

In addition to the attention given to Romney’s video comments, there will no doubt be more news eruptions over other issues or pseudo-issues in the weeks ahead. The next structured event in the presidential campaign is the first debate at the University of Denver on Oct. 3. Keep in mind that early voting has already begun in some states, so as time moves inexorably forward, the potential for a radical shake-up in the race becomes less mathematically possible.

Romney will win and it will be due to the economic hard times and the correct perception that Oblunda hasn’t a clue how to fix anything, foreign or domestic.

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:40 pm

Good grief. How on earth did we ever forget about Harry Reid standing there and saying that he has it on good word from someone in the Romney camp that Romney paid “NO” income taxes the previous 12 years. None. But Jay do have a point. This LIE didn’t come from a liberal media outlet. It came straight from the Democratic leader of the U.S. Senate.

rivercard

September 18th, 2012
5:40 pm

Thusla – The 9/11 truthers crowd is hardly a solely liberal group.

Dan Rather apparently fell for a fake document, but there where at least elements of reality in his story.

I would agree that if Admin is colluding with Media Matters that would be troublesome. Let’s see if there is any evidence behind the claim.

Jay

September 18th, 2012
5:40 pm

Plus “see india on $200 million a day,” the birth certificate angle, the foreign student angle, the whitey tape, the “confiscate all our guns” theory, the Muslim angle, the young Obama in Pakistan angle, the “Obama’s records are sealed” angle, the “Obama was stripped of his law license” story, the 1 percent financial transaction tax BS, the “Muslims are exempt from ObamaCare” canard, etc .etc etc. etc.

Ahem

September 18th, 2012
5:41 pm

Romney will win and it will be due to the economic hard times and the correct perception that Oblunda hasn’t a clue how to fix anything, foreign or domestic. DISREGARD ITALICS

Romney will win and it will be due to the economic hard times and the correct perception that Oblunda hasn’t a clue how to fix anything, foreign or domestic.

Thulsa Doom

September 18th, 2012
5:41 pm

I almost forgot. How about the liberal commercial that shows that plant worker lying and saying that Romney laid him off and as a result he lost his health insurance and his wife subsequently died. That was the whopper of the year so far.

Lord Help Us

September 18th, 2012
5:43 pm

And don’t forget about all those people Clinton had murdered…

Ahem

September 18th, 2012
5:43 pm

Oblunda’s approval is back below 50%

Mama Says

September 18th, 2012
5:43 pm

Dispute it Auqagirl.

Or you could actually read your history lessons.

Dispute one thing I said. Go ahead.

You are the Kool Aid drinker and you haven’t got a clue you are.

I am waiting. Point by point do it !

JamVet

September 18th, 2012
5:43 pm

Odd that history says it was the libs who did the dirty deeds.

Oy vey! Are you a holocaust denier too?

Bull Connor, George Wallace, Strom Thurmond – liberals or conservatives?

James Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner – liberals or conservatives?

The seven whites and six blacks on that first Freedom Ride – liberals or conservatives?

I can literally list hundreds more examples.

Do you REALLY want to go on with your staggeringly stupid and racist historical interpretations???

Jay

September 18th, 2012
5:43 pm

“I would agree that if Admin is colluding with Media Matters that would be troublesome. Let’s see if there is any evidence behind the claim.

If Admin is colluding with MM to MISLEAD, that would indeed be quite a major problem.