Smile, Mitt Romney. You’re on Candid Camera!

UPDATE at 7:20 a.m.: Initially, some had attempted to brush this off as a “nonstory.” The Romney campaign itself has proved that claim wrong. You don’t call a late-night unscheduled televised press conference, as Romney did, to get ahead of a “nonstory.”

It’s also not true that this is something Romney has been saying on the campaign trail anyway. To my knowledge, he has sunk to this line of argument only once, back in the primaries. If I’m mistaken and he has done so more regularly, I’m sure that will surface.

In policy terms, Romney clearly believes that 47 percent of Americans — for the most part, the poorer 47 percent — ought to pay more in income taxes. There’s no other way to interpret the remarks, although some will surely try to give them imaginative new meaning. The recession has a lot to do with the increase in those not paying income tax, but a larger driver was the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003. To build political support for tax cuts at the top end, President Bush was forced to include them at the low end as well.

It is a deal that Republicans, from the top man on down, clearly wish to undo. The Bush tax cuts must be preserved for everyone but the poorest 47 percent.

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Somebody has slipped Mother Jones magazine a lengthy and secretly recorded videotape of Mitt Romney speaking to a group of wealthy contributors about the realities of his race with Barack Obama. Here’s one excerpt of several:

What strikes me first is not the content of the remarks but the ease with which they are delivered. As other excerpts also demonstrate, this is the real Romney, speaking before his peers and finally comfortable with who he is. He isn’t awkward or hesitant about playing a role, which is how he comes across usually. This is the guy who ran Bain Capital, freed to be himself and say what he believes.

And this is what he believes:

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…

“Our message of low taxes doesn’t connect … so my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the five to 10 percent in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful….”

To much of the Republican base, that’s going to go over big. It’s what they want to hear, the red meat that they’ve been clamoring to be fed. This is Mitt Romney’s way of telling his wealthy campaign contributors that THEY are the victims, that THEY are being cheated by the government and that he is there to protect them.

However, Romney is also calling some 47 percent of the American people hopeless freeloaders. That would presumably include everyone on Social Security, everyone who got an education through a federal student loan, everyone who ever collected unemployment to get them through hard times, everyone on Medicare or collecting veterans benefits.

Millions of them are working people with full-time jobs, trying as hard as they can to make better lives for themselves. They just don’t make a lot of money doing it. Romney’s disdain notwithstanding, many if not most of the 47 percent who do not pay income taxes do pay significant payroll taxes, gasoline taxes, cigarette and alcohol taxes and other taxes that end up making their effective tax rate as high as Romney’s.

And in millions of cases, they don’t pay income taxes because of the Republican tax cuts enacted to further the Republican campaign to drive the federal government to its knees through deficits.

There’s also the matter of accuracy. In the most recent Washington Post/ABC News poll, Obama leads Romney by 47/45 percent among Americans with income of $100,000 or above. So an awful lot of highly successful Americans support Obama.

Among those making less than $50,000 — basically, those 47 percent who don’t pay federal income taxes — Obama gets 55 percent while Romney gets a still healthy 39 percent. But they are clearly held in disdain by the man who wants to be their president.

This video is going to come across as a window into the way that rich Americans talk with each other in private about the rest of the country, and in some ways that will be unfair. I know for a fact that the attitudes expressed in those remarks are far from universal in that demographic.

But this is how one man, Mitt Romney, unfettered and unchained, thinks about them, saying the things that he doesn’t dare to say on the campaign trail.

Here’s another excerpt for your viewing pleasure:


– Jay Bookman

901 comments Add your comment

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 17th, 2012
7:50 pm

However, Romney is also calling some 47 percent of the American people hopeless freeloaders.

Not the way to win a popularity contest.

stands for decibels

September 17th, 2012
7:50 pm

Methinks he’s fcrewn.

Real Scootter

September 17th, 2012
7:51 pm

Real Scootter

September 17th, 2012
7:52 pm

They BOTH suck

September 17th, 2012
7:52 pm

Read that on politico earlier today……….

Interesting.

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
7:53 pm

Truth hurts, don’t it?

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
7:53 pm

Mitt’s mistake is that he thinks those making less than $50k don’t support him. A lot do, and he’ll turn his back on them. Once again, he loses a connection with people he needs to win this election. He wouldn’t be able to live a week in the life of most of that 39% who will vote for him who make such a small amount of money. The only reason he’ll even acknowledge their existence is when they’re cutting his grass or maintaining the car elevator for him. What a loser…

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
7:55 pm

Well, Maybe he could just promise more “free” stuff to everyone, like O’bozo.

Would you vote for him then, Jay?

Real Scootter

September 17th, 2012
7:55 pm

Seems to me Romney was telling those folks the reality of his situation.And for once he wasn’t lying.

Common Freaking Sense isn't very Common

September 17th, 2012
7:56 pm

Can we have a debate tomorrow :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 17th, 2012
7:56 pm

Mitt is not a leader for America…

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
7:56 pm

I love how he talks about them paying no taxes…and who exactly passed these tax cuts TWICE during his administration?? Oh yeah, that’s right, his idol GWB!!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 17th, 2012
7:58 pm

The real irony is that Mitt has carefully worded his responses about paying “taxes”. He may very well be part of the 47% who pay no federal income taxes that he shows such disdain for from his “rich bully” mount.

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
7:59 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 17th, 2012
7:59 pm

Also from the linkee — “we are having a much harder time with Hispanic voters, and if the Hispanic voting bloc becomes as committed to the Democrats as the African American voting block has in the past, why, we’re in trouble as a party and, I think, as a nation.”

Ruh, roh … them browns will bring the nation down.

Brosephus™

September 17th, 2012
8:00 pm

Is there any single Conservative in America that understands there is a sizeable group of that fabled 47% that earn more than $100,000 a year in income? They are not all poor people living on welfare. Most of them are working, but they don’t generate enough income to have a tax liability once the standard deductions are applied to their income. When the potential POTUS doesn’t know that or refuses to acknowledge that, then it’s obvious that he doesn’t need to be in control of the US.

Real Scootter

September 17th, 2012
8:01 pm

WEALTH ENVY !!!!!
First on that one! :lol:

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:02 pm

“He may very well be part of the 47% who pay no federal income taxes…”

Keep may very well be part of the percentage of people who beat their wife regularly.

Of course, it’s up to him to prove he doesn’t.

stands for decibels

September 17th, 2012
8:02 pm

I’ll be very interested in seeing how Team Obama plays this.

Steve

September 17th, 2012
8:02 pm

A really good Republican candidate – someone with honesty, integrity, compassion and character. Someone who was moderate, would have beat Obama in 2012. Romney has pretty much nailed the lid on his coffin and ensured an Obama win with this kind of idiocy.

Bill Orvis White

September 17th, 2012
8:02 pm

This is just a fact. The honorable Gov. Romney is just telling the truth no matter how painful it is right now. There’s no there, there. So, the few lib outlets that very few read,watch or listen to will yap about this non-story for a long time. Real Americans with real common sense know better. WE ARE NOT STUPID, FOLKS. This is just another example of SERIOUS LEFTIES going after a conservative man with a sharp business acumen. I KNOW THAT THIS SET-UP WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE ROMNEY/RYAN TICKET TO VICTORY COME THIS NOVEMBER! Governor Romney wants to get rid of deadbeats and WISHES TO CREATE PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD NIGHT!
Amen,
Bill

stands for decibels

September 17th, 2012
8:03 pm

F Sink, can you at least admit that this cannot, in any way, be a net positive for Romney? that he’s blundered, yet again?

Anna B

September 17th, 2012
8:03 pm

And the ugly snake behind the crocodile smile is revealed! Take notice America. FYI Mr. Romney – I’m an Obama supporter – I’ve worked since I was 10 years old, never had government assistance, and pay a HIGHER TAX RATE than you do. Obama/Biden 2012!

stands for decibels

September 17th, 2012
8:05 pm

And just for the record, more free stuff for everyone is exactly what the economy needs.

Get rid of the tightwad, a-holish Republican House, and start getting the country back to work. That’s what we need, and we probably won’t get it in this election cycle. (oh well.)

stands for decibels

September 17th, 2012
8:05 pm

anyhoo, I think I’ll pass on piling on. later, gators…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 17th, 2012
8:06 pm

Sinkwich, yep he could beat his wife. But with tax returns its an easy disclosure and he is the one who has carefully avoided saying he has paid “federal taxes” together with overseas accounts… but hey if his wife says she suddenly hit a doorknob and has a black eye, I am sure you’ll turn a blind eye to that also. :roll:

Aquagirl

September 17th, 2012
8:07 pm

Can someone fast forward to the part where Mitt says “let them eat cake?”

Jay

September 17th, 2012
8:07 pm

A really good Republican candidate – someone with honesty, integrity, compassion and character. Someone who was moderate …

The GOP nominating process is designed to cull such candidates out of the herd, a la Huntsman, or to ensure they never even get in the race, a la Daniels or even Jeb Bush.

Mr. Snarky

September 17th, 2012
8:07 pm

Sounds like class warfare to me.

TaxPayer

September 17th, 2012
8:08 pm

What he’s gonna do is tell those people the truth about me and that may work. – The Mitt, it fits like a glove except it doesn’t.

Brosephus™

September 17th, 2012
8:09 pm

Well, considering that video coming to light with the announcement of a supposed campaign reset, and I think somebody shook the Etch-A-Sketch a wee bit too hard.

Mr. Snarky

September 17th, 2012
8:09 pm

“WE ARE NOT STUPID, FOLKS. This is just another example of SERIOUS LEFTIES going after a conservative man with a sharp business acumen. I KNOW THAT THIS SET-UP WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE ROMNEY/RYAN TICKET TO VICTORY COME THIS NOVEMBER”….haha!….you’re so funny!

Brosephus™

September 17th, 2012
8:10 pm

The GOP nominating process is designed to cull such candidates out of the herd, a la Huntsman

Yep!!!

rcs

September 17th, 2012
8:11 pm

Jay @ 8:07
Sadly, you are correct.

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:11 pm

“Governor Romney wants to get rid of deadbeats ”

So Bill, are disabled veterans, the elderly, and basically anyone making less than $50k a year deadbeats? Since you agree with Mitt, it would seem that’s exactly what you think. I’ll tell my cousin with MS, who served over twenty years as a cop, what you think. I’ll share the “promise” Mitt offers to my 72 year old dad, who depends on social security to supplement the meager pension he got after being “laid off” after 23 years with his company when they decided to cut anyone above 15 years. I’ll tell that to the veterans missing limbs who can’t find jobs because of their permanent disability caused by a war the last Republican president sent them blindly into on fabricated intelligence. But hey, they’ll all become good workers in the gulags for the rich bosses, won’t they?

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:13 pm

“F Sink, can you at least admit that this cannot, in any way, be a net positive for Romney? that he’s blundered, yet again?”

Stupid people won’t vote for the Mittster. They want free stuff. O’bozo promises free stuff.

Truth hurts.

Go figure.

Mr. Snarky

September 17th, 2012
8:13 pm

If Mitt believes what he’s saying, then he’s seriously misinformed. No wonder the poor DB is losing.

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:13 pm

@Aquagirl: the cake they’ll be served by the waiters and waitresses who are probably part of the 47% he decries considering their average earnings. If I were one, I’d be serving the cake right up ’side their heads! LOL

Mr. Snarky

September 17th, 2012
8:14 pm

Sorta like our misinformed buddy F.

Mick

September 17th, 2012
8:14 pm

Sink finally got something right, romney speaks the truth, his truth and it will not resonate or bode well for romney. Talk about class warfare? Romney carved that turkey quite nicely…

JamVet

September 17th, 2012
8:14 pm

…that he’s blundered, yet again?

Old Foot in Mouth Mitt? Blunder again?

After just last week condemning our American embassy personnel for sympathizing with their attackers?!

Oh no Joe, say it ain’t so!

The man is pusillanimous (just for Sunk), disgraceful and unfit to lead.

Fortunately he is never going to get the chance….

They BOTH suck

September 17th, 2012
8:14 pm

“Stupid people won’t vote for the Mittster.”

You must be voting 3rd party……..

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:-)

They BOTH suck

September 17th, 2012
8:14 pm

Jam

Left you a msg downstairs

rivercard

September 17th, 2012
8:14 pm

Are any of those 47% serving in Afghanistan, Mr. Romney? Damn freeloading soldiers.

The heart of the conservative mind and heart is an ugly black hole of ignorance, contradictions and emotional immaturity.

td

September 17th, 2012
8:15 pm

Mitt Romney told the truth and it is backed up by the latest gallop poll:

“It is thus no surprise to find large partisan differences in Americans’ views on the appropriate role of government. Two-thirds of Democrats think government should do more, while an even larger percentage of Republicans say government is doing too much that should be left to individuals and businesses. More than six in 10 independents agree that the government is doing too much.

Trend: Some people think the government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses. Others think that government should do more to solve our country’s problems. Which comes closer to your own view? By party ID”

Doing to Much: Republicans 82%, Independents 62%, Democrats 24%
Not doing enough: Republicans 15%, Independents 29% Democrats 67%

td

September 17th, 2012
8:16 pm

You libs

September 17th, 2012
8:16 pm

AquaGirl

“Can someone fast forward to the part where Mitt says “let them eat cake?””

Lol, you are on a roll today.

Technically, she said let them eat brioche, but still.

hottopics

September 17th, 2012
8:17 pm

Obama should win by a landslide. Thanks Mitt!!1

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:18 pm

“And just for the record, more free stuff for everyone is exactly what the economy needs.”

Oh good, a Marxist.

So tell me, who pays for the “free” stuff?

JamVet

September 17th, 2012
8:18 pm

BOTH, thanks, I saw it. It is just that my tolerance for repulsive Christians who write stuff like that is not very high!

td, is that the world famous, “Lets ask them Bumper Sticker Questions” poll?

Specific free – THAT defines your candidate and his base to a tee…

Richard

September 17th, 2012
8:18 pm

Well, the 47& and Democratic Party believe in the welfare from the Gov.That they should provide everyrhing.So, Romney was speaking the truth

Aquagirl

September 17th, 2012
8:19 pm

Okay…Latinos, women, most of the British, auto workers, gays, people on Social Security, dog owners….who’s left to p*ss off? Basket weavers of Polish descent?

TaxPayer

September 17th, 2012
8:19 pm

I wonder how many of the GOP bloggers here realize that they fall into Mitt’s “those people” category.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 17th, 2012
8:19 pm

Link for above post

drudgey spam.

rivercard

September 17th, 2012
8:20 pm

td- thinking the government can and should do more does not equate to being dependent or being a victim.

You libs

September 17th, 2012
8:21 pm

Excellent point, rivercard.

rivercard

September 17th, 2012
8:22 pm

Taxpayer – self awareness is not really a big part of the conservative mindset.

Mary Elizabeth

September 17th, 2012
8:24 pm

Romney: “… so my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
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In the first video, above, “Mitt Romney on Obama Voters,” I heard more real passion and conviction in Romney voice than I have ever previously heard. This is what he believes in his heart and in his gut. The problem with what he believes is that it is full of stereotypical thinking that reflects little shades of grey or nuance. Moreover, it reflects a man with a coldness of heart, imo.

I fully comprehend, now, how this man could strap his dog on top of his car and actually believe that the dog enjoyed the ride. Heaven help this nation – and this globe – if this man becomes President of the United States. What is sad is that Gov. Romney divides people into categories, instead of seeing the humanity – within all people – that connects all people. And, he not only divides, he sees with a hierarchial, smallness of vision that some are better than others based on their wealth, which evidently in his thinking, equates to virtue and hard work. Little does he understand that there are millions of people in this nation who work very hard, all of their lives, without making high incomes. My deceased husband was one of them. What a sad, little person of shallow vision Romney has turned out to be – that that video revealed.

Yes, the American voter has a clear choice in this year’s election. To me, the quality of each candidate – or lack of it – is profound and obvious.

TaxPayer

September 17th, 2012
8:24 pm

And part of the challenge is to convince those people that what we are feeding them is cake. – Mitt’s revisionist French history learned while trying to save the French from the evils of wine.

FrankLeeDarling

September 17th, 2012
8:25 pm

What a total nozzle this guy is

Obama/Biden 2012

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:25 pm

“td- thinking the government can and should do more does not equate to being dependent or being a victim.”

Pretty much.

td

September 17th, 2012
8:26 pm

Jay,

“However, Romney is also calling some 47 percent of the American people hopeless freeloaders. That would presumably include everyone on Social Security, everyone who got an education through a federal student loan, everyone who ever collected unemployment to get them through hard times, everyone on Medicare or collecting veterans benefits.”

That is leftest spin and bogus BS. None of the above programs are entitlements (with the exception of student loans and that is only partially). An entitlement is only based on ones income and this was what Romney was talking about. What Romney was talking about and the people that are the Democratic base: TANF, Food Stamps, Section 8, Low energy assistance, WIC, Medicaid, Obamacare, Free phones …

JamVet

September 17th, 2012
8:27 pm

It’s not as if the multimillionaire who hides money overseas did himself any favors by picking that nincompoop, Ayn Ryan as his VP choice.

At least McCain was a decent man…

Mick

September 17th, 2012
8:27 pm

Yes, this election is setting up quite nicely. Obama just needs to let romney keep talking, its pure gold and snl spoofed it perfectly. Romney needs to realize that should he pull off the gig, every word you utter as president is fair game, he’s getting a nice taste. The debates will be great and it will be such a treat to see ryan and biden tee off. Fifty some odd more days and then we can all hibernate for about 24 hours before the hillary machine gets inertia…

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:28 pm

“…reflects little shades of grey…”

ME needs some lovin’

:lol:

TaxPayer

September 17th, 2012
8:28 pm

Sinkwich doesn’t seem to be too concerned about his daily use of things brought to us by the government, including his ability to post here over the Internet. Then again, he has not made the connection between himself and Mitt’s “those people” yet either.

rivercard

September 17th, 2012
8:31 pm

td- Romney made no such differentiation.

TaxPayer

September 17th, 2012
8:31 pm

Is it too late for the Republicans to ask McCain to run again.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

September 17th, 2012
8:32 pm

Perhaps the GOP will have a brokered convention, and they can nominate someone with a soul.

What’s that?

They’ve already had their convention?

Never mind.

Chris Salzmann

September 17th, 2012
8:34 pm

People who earn less than $40K don’t pay income taxes. Neither do people on social security or people on disability or living off veteran benefits. Most of these folks still pay sales taxes, property taxes, social security and medicare taxes, among other things. Yes, 47% of people don’t pay INCOME TAXES because they don’t earn ENOUGH! They still pay other taxes. These people are NOT LOSERS. BTW, the majority of folks on food stamps are poor white folk. If judging what percentage of one’s income people pay in income taxes is a reason to despise them, then Mitt Romney deserves my scorn and ridicule since he paid a far lower percentage of his income in taxes than I did last year.

The damning truth of the Romney campaign, among other things is that his only part to victory is through vote suppression using the mirage of “voter fraud” and to stir up racist resentment through his surrogates. Mitt Romney and his allies deserve the inevitable plunge into the dustbin of history.

Aquagirl

September 17th, 2012
8:34 pm

An entitlement is only based on ones income and this was what Romney was talking about.

Oh, he meant “only THOSE PEOPLE who aren’t paying income tax.”
Not “people who aren’t paying income tax.”

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:34 pm

td: keep sippin’ the Kool-Aid. It’s apparently working and melting your brain just as planned.

JamVet

September 17th, 2012
8:35 pm

Reagan made anti-Americanism popular in the 1980s GOP and they have run with it like banshees…

Brosephus™

September 17th, 2012
8:36 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-10-06/income-tax-nonpayment/50676912/1

WASHINGTON – Amid complaints that nearly half of tax filers in the U.S. won’t pay federal income taxes this year, this has been lost: Those making $75,000-$100,000 a year are the fastest-growing share of people who don’t pay federal income taxes.

Not working poor people — but those who are firmly middle class.

They still make up less than 1% of the total number of income tax filers who pay no tax at all, but their overall number has exploded, from fewer than 5,000 not paying taxes in 1996 to nearly 500,000 in 2009, the most recent year of available data.

The lowest-income Americans — those who make less than $25,000 a year — account for the largest number of those not paying any federal income tax: 76% as of 2009. But that share has been decreasing for years. Meanwhile, the percentage of nontaxable returns has been growing for people with higher incomes. As of 2009, more than 20,000 filers making more than $200,000 a year — 1,470 of whom had adjusted gross income of more than $1 million — owed no income tax, a Detroit Free Press analysis showed.

—————–

http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/09/pf/taxes/millionaires_income_tax/index.htm?iid=EL

Nearly half of all U.S. households, or 69 million, are estimated to have owed no federal income taxes for 2010. The vast majority of them, however, are low income.

But 18,000 were households taking in more than $500,000 — and of those, 4,000 made more than $1 million.

Mary Elizabeth

September 17th, 2012
8:36 pm

“ME needs some lovin’”
——————————————–

The offensive remark of a small-minded person who, evidently, was affected by my thinking.

JamVet

September 17th, 2012
8:36 pm

The tape came the same day as Romney addressed the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Los Angeles as he continues to court Latino voters, which have largely signaled they would fall in Obama’s column in November. According to a recent Gallup poll, Obama leads Romney among Latino registered voters 64%-27%.

Obama’s campaign quickly seized on the reports Monday, calling Romney’s comments “shocking.”

“It’s shocking that a candidate for President of the United States would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the American people view themselves as ‘victims,’ entitled to handouts, and are unwilling to take ‘personal responsibility’ for their lives. It’s hard to serve as president for all Americans when you’ve disdainfully written off half the nation,” said Obama campaign manager Jim Messina in a statement.

Willard is a dead man walking…

td

September 17th, 2012
8:37 pm

rivercard

September 17th, 2012
8:31 pm

td- Romney made no such differentiation.

Sure he did if you would only read.

” who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.”

satch7

September 17th, 2012
8:38 pm

ok you send almost every entry level job it is overseas or they filled up with illegal immigrants so these high school grads will not be working.but they also have been telling folks you need a education or a trade sine the late 80’s

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:39 pm

Chris: it says a lot about the confidence of those supporting you when their best move to help you is to stop as many of the opponents from voting as possible. Ironically, they’ll also stop some of their own who are elderly or who are poor, conservative (I know a LOT of those in my small GA town) and don’t have the paperwork to get a photo ID.

Pizzaman

September 17th, 2012
8:39 pm

Will the real Willard please stand up. Do you want to be President of the United States or President of the Privileged Few?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 17th, 2012
8:39 pm

Mitt has no problem with “corporate entitlements”. his believe is that te govenment should clean up the corporate messes he creates.

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:39 pm

“Sinkwich doesn’t seem to be too concerned about his daily use of things brought to us by the government, including his ability to post here over the Internet.”

Al Gore! He da man!

Jay

September 17th, 2012
8:40 pm

“What Romney was talking about and the people that are the Democratic base: TANF, Food Stamps, Section 8, Low energy assistance, WIC, Medicaid, Obamacare, Free phones …”

You are incorrect, td. When Romney said “there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it,” he was talking about Medicare, Social Security, etc.

here are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/05/26/number-of-the-week-half-of-u-s-lives-in-household-getting-benefits/

rivercard

September 17th, 2012
8:40 pm

TD – the who referred to the entire 47% , no differentiation made. I can read just fine, it’s that troubling comprehension you Repugnuts seem to have trouble with.

td

September 17th, 2012
8:40 pm

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:34 pm

td: keep sippin’ the Kool-Aid. It’s apparently working and melting your brain just as planned.

No sipping here because I have been saying this for years. When we (as a nation) stopped holding people personally accountable for their actions and having to suffer the consequences for their actions then we started heading down the road to entitlement and the ruination of this great country.

rcs

September 17th, 2012
8:41 pm

Thanks for the data, Brosephus.

F. Sinkwich

September 17th, 2012
8:42 pm

” The offensive remark of a small-minded person who, evidently, was affected by my thinking.”

Duh.

Brosephus™

September 17th, 2012
8:42 pm

Anybody who complains about 47% not paying fed income tax needs to look at the tax policy that’s been pushed by both parties in DC. When you cut taxes, you zero out some liabilities. Cut taxes enough, and you remove all liabilities. And to think, Mitt want’s to cut taxes even more. Is he not satisfied with only 47% not paying fed income tax? Is his goal to push it to 60%?

You libs

September 17th, 2012
8:42 pm

TaxPayer

“Is it too late for the Republicans to ask McCain to run again”

I honestly think history will show it was too late for the Republicans the day McCain suspended his campaign to fly back to Washington.

The American people aren’t stupid.

Okay, but not most of the time.

satch7

September 17th, 2012
8:46 pm

TD this garbage you wrote below is why blacks will never vote for GOP.See you GOP m effers want to talk trash about folks then wonder why they do not want to vote GOPhow crazy can you be ?

That is leftest spin and bogus BS. None of the above programs are entitlements (with the exception of student loans and that is only partially). An entitlement is only based on ones income and this was what Romney was talking about. What Romney was talking about and the people that are the Democratic base: TANF, Food Stamps, Section 8, Low energy assistance, WIC, Medicaid, Obamacare, Free phones

nelson

September 17th, 2012
8:46 pm

I do not spend 1 second listening to secret recordings. That is what I like about the GOP, honest, forthright, straight forward, honorable, above repute. When the GOP says it, it is up front. Leave the dirty tricks, secret recordings, inuendos, slanted media reporting, all democrats, not Mitts style, a man of deep faith, in a rock solid, made in America religion, can not get any better then that.Adios

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:47 pm

“No sipping here because I have been saying this for years. ”

I should have recognized a guzzler…

Just because you’ve been saying it for years doesn’t make it true or right. As the comedian says, “you can’t fix stupid.”

TaxPayer

September 17th, 2012
8:47 pm

Mitt, realizing the harm that his loose lips have done to his campaign, is said to be planning an “I eat grits with sugar just like those people do,” tour of the southeastern US to help shore up his base. I think that’s a great idea. Go for it, Mitt.

Whatever

September 17th, 2012
8:47 pm

Nice link Jay. 49.1% receive some government aid. The problem is that the other 50.9% of us can’t afford it. I think there is plenty to be outraged about here. 1/2 the country getting something leaves the other half paying for it. I guess that’s fair….to someone.

Jay, I’ve read enough of your stuff to tell you are a smart guy. What part of being broke and printing money to pay for all this stuff is hard for you to see?

When half get assistance then we are way past fixing this without something drastic happening. Let’s get a clue and fix it now before our children and grandchildren are crushed by it.

JamVet

September 17th, 2012
8:48 pm

(CNN) — For students of journalistic feeding frenzies in presidential politics, the Romney campaign-meltdown story merits close study.

The first striking feature is that the flashpoint story that pulled together his missteps — the bungled foreign trip, his lackluster convention, his widely denounced response to the Libya carnage, to name a few — appeared in the new media. It was on the Politico website Sunday under the headline “Inside the Campaign: How Mitt Stumbled,” rather than in mainstream newspapers or on the networks’ evening news shows, the traditional pacesetters in campaign coverage.

There are many ways to state the misperceptions and wishful assumptions that have put the Romney campaign into a decline that could easily turn into disarray. (Perhaps we should place bets on how long before we see the trend-setting “rudderless ship” story. For signs of morbidity, stay tuned to Fox.)

Here’s the picture that is troubling the silenced tribe once known as “mainstream Republicans.” Old Reaganites, for example, remember what a winning candidate looks like two months out from election day, and they can count. If current trends continue, Obama will look more and more presidential, and Republicans and their preferred news sources will continue to lose faith in the mantra that Obama can’t win because he’s too black, too liberal and too modern. Interpolating from the polls, only about one-third of the electorate believes that. So from here on out, it’s all simple arithmetic, as Bill Clinton said in a convention speech that really was a watershed.

rcs

September 17th, 2012
8:48 pm

You libs, americans are not stupid, they (we) have short memories.

Columbus

September 17th, 2012
8:49 pm

This is news? We all know its about the 5-10% for both Romney and Obama. Obama feels the same opposite way about the Romney supporters. The author of this is most definitely another member of the liberal and biased media….Obama is refusing to cut spending in the time of the greatest debt in our nations history and has spent more than EVERY president COMBINED in our history. Say what you want about social policies and other things, BUT NOT MANAGING OUR TAX MONEY AND DEBT IN THIS MANNER IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND the GREATEST THREAT OUR NATION FACES AND UNLESS WE GET A MONEY MANAGER IN OFFICE AND A LEADER IN MONEY MATTERS, WE ARE DOOMED. I DONT CARE IF CONGRESS WONT WORK WITH THE PRESIDENT OR NOT, THE PRESIDANT CAN STILL DO WHAT HE CAN DO TO HELP, WHICH IS CUT SPENDING ALL HE CAN AND HE JUST SPENDS MORE AND MORE AND WANTS TO TAX MORE SO HE CAN SPEND MORE AND THIS IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER BY ANY PRESIDENT ESPECIALLY WITH OUR DEBT!

INTEREST ALONE IS $180 MILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THATS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT MATTERS THIS ELECTION. GAY MARRIAGE AND ABORTIONS AND ENVIRONMENT ARE IMPORTANT….BUT NOT AS MUCH AS JOBS AND DEBT RIGHT NOW……OBAMA GOT TREMENDOUS HELP WITH THE STIMULUS TO CREATE THE JOBS HE DID AND IT HASNT BEEN NEARLY ENOUGH AND THE ONES CREATED COST ALMOST $800,000 EACH…EHATS HE GONNA CREATE WITH NO STIMULUS? LOOK WE CANT TAKE ANOTHER CHANCE WITH OBAMA. CANT AFFORD TOO….I DONT CARE IF YOU LIEK ROMNEY OR NOT. HE IS GOOD WITH MONEY AND CREATING JOBS AND WILL BALANCE THE BUDGET. IF YOU DONT WANT YOUR GOVT ASSISTANCE CUT OUT AND WILL STICK WITH OBAMA, THEN ROMNEY IS RIGHT SAYING YOU WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA NO MATTER WHAT…AND YOU ARE SELFISH AND UNAMERICAN BECAUSE AMERICA NEEDS TO TIGHTEN THE PURSE STRINGS MORE THAN AT ANY TIME IN THEIR HISTORY….STOP BEING SELFISH AND VOTE FOR ROMNEY. BE A PATRIOT AND CARE ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY MORE THAN YOURSELF OR YOUR SOCIAL VIEWS AND BE REMEMBERED AS A GREAT GENERATION, A GREAT PATRIOT AND VOTE FOR CHANGE. VOTE FOR GETTING OUR DEBT UNDER CONTROL AND VOTE FOR ROMNEY.

ANOTHER THING IS, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY YOU CAN LOVE GOD OR BE A CHRISTIAN OR A JEW AND VOTE FOR OBAMA. ITS HYPOCRITCAL AND IN CONFLICT WITH GODS LAWS….A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE AGAINST GOD IN AMERICA AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS THE ROOT AND MOST IMPORTANT THING AMERICA HAS ALWAYS HAD AND THAT IS WHY WE WERE THE MOST BLESSED NATION IN HISTORY AND ALSO WHY WE ARE NOT AS BLESSED NOW AND OBAMA IS DOING HIS BEST TO PUSH GOD FURTHER OUT….OBAMA DOESNT SHARE OUR IDEALS. HE CANT. HE DIDNT GROW UP HERE. HE DOESNT LOVE AMERICA LIKE WE DO. HE CANT. HE GREW UP A MUSLIM IN THE NATION WITH THE HIGHEST MUSLIM POPULATION IN THE WORLD, INDONESIA. HE CHANGED HIS NAME AND TOOK A MUSLIM NAME THAT HE STILL HAS TODAY. WHY? HE WENT TO AN AMERICA HATING CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS BUT CLAIMED IGNORACE, HE HAS MET WITH ANTI-ISRAEL GROUPS 35 TIMES IN THE WHITE HOUSE BUT REFUSES TO MEET WITH PRO-ISRAEL GROUPS AFTER THE BEGGED FOR A MEETING. THEY MET ZERO TIMES…REFUSES TO MEET WITH ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER AT HIS REQUEST WHEN THEY ARE ABOUT TO HAVE TO ATTACK IRAN WHILE OBAMA DOES NOTHING. OBAMA IS NOT ONE OF US AND IF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE HERE, OBAMA WOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON. HE FORMULATIVE YEARS WERE AS A MUSLIM, NOT AMERICAN. HE IS NOT AND CANT BE ONE OF US. HE DOESNT LEAD IN THE WORLD, HE LETS THE WORLD LEAD US. RUSSIA AND CHINA HAVE PREVENTED US WITH THEIR UN VOTES FROM HELPING SYRIANS BEING SLAUGHTERED….WHILE THE REST OF THE WORLD MAJORITY VOTED OTHERWISE…NOW WE ARE SUBJECT TO THE UN AND THE VOTES OF CHINA AND RUSSIA DETERMINING WHAT WE DO….HE WILL GO AFTER OUR GUNS NEXT…ITS PART OF THE PROGRESSIVE PLAN THAT THEY WILL NOT GIVE UP ON. THEY WANT GOD OUT TOO AND AHVE BEEN DOIGN A GOOD JOB AT THAT HUH? THE BIBLE SAYS THIS WILL HAPPEN AND IT IS UP TO US WHICH PATH WE TAKE. THE WIDE PATH THAT LEADS TO DESTRUCTION OR THE NARROW PATH THAT LEADS TO LIFE….THE WIDE PATH IS FULL OF SIN AND SELF AND FLESH AND PLEASURES AND IMMORALITIES AND WITHOUT GOD….THATS THE PATH THE LIBERALS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT US ON…YOU LIKE THAT PATH? THEN YOU DONT LIKE GOD ALMIGHTY OR RESPECT HIM MUCH DO YOU? YOU RESPECT SELF AND MEN AND NOT AUTHORITY AND NOT GOD…

Brosephus™

September 17th, 2012
8:50 pm

Nice link Jay. 49.1% receive some government aid. The problem is that the other 50.9% of us can’t afford it. I think there is plenty to be outraged about here. 1/2 the country getting something leaves the other half paying for it. I guess that’s fair….to someone.

Well, you might wanna explain that to Romney. He seems to think we can buy even more bombs and bullets while continuing to cut taxes and cut off even more revenue to the government. He’s basically going on the notion that even fewer people can continue to pay for even more goodies.

Ron F.

September 17th, 2012
8:50 pm

I noticed in all the sniping that nobody supporting Mittens has addressed the data Brosephus posted. Oh that’s right, it’s in the Mindless Neocon Manual that when confronted with facts, cover your ears and eyes, and yell about the entitlements. I should have finished that book before I lined the catbox with it.

King of Wishful Thinking

September 17th, 2012
8:51 pm

Mitt should shut up until he proves to the America that he believes in, that he is not included in the 47% that pays no income tax.