Under President Romney, Mideast would be calm? Really?
Advisers to Mitt Romney on Thursday defended his sharp criticism of President Obama and said that the deadly protests sweeping the Middle East would not have happened if the Republican nominee were president.
“There’s a pretty compelling story that if you had a President Romney, you’d be in a different situation,” Richard Williamson, a top Romney foreign policy adviser, said in an interview. “For the first time since Jimmy Carter, we’ve had an American ambassador assassinated.”
Williamson added, “In Egypt and Libya and Yemen, again demonstrations — the respect for America has gone down, there’s not a sense of American resolve and we can’t even protect sovereign American property.”
I’m sorry: That has to be one of the more ridiculous statements I have seen in a long time. Who’s running this campaign, Honey Boo-Boo?
So we are to believe that Mitt Romney, by the sheer Mitt-normity of his Mitt-strength, would square his Mitt-jaw and single-handedly suppress not just decades, not just centuries, but millenia of seething anger and frustration among hundreds of millions of people in the Islamic world. Their anger and insecurities would all vanish, and the roiling seas would be made calm?
It’s a feat that Ronald Reagan couldn’t perform — the death of 241 Marines in their barracks in Lebanon and the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, with another 63 killed, bear clear testimony to his inadequacy. George W. Bush, the hard-bitten Texan, was such a wimp that Islamic terrorists dared to murder thousands of our fellow Americans here on our own soil and launch a dozen attacks against our embassies.
And Barack Obama? As Rush Limbaugh suggested yesterday, Obama is so weak that al Qaida offered up Osama bin Laden as a sacrifice to us, just to ensure that Obama would be re-elected.
Oh, but under the fearsome glare and resolve of the Mitt-y One, all would quake. Because all would know that if they dared to cross the line, His RomniPOTUS would … do what exactly? Smite them with a simple arch of his eyebrow?
P.T. Barnum once claimed that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. The Romney campaign is putting that observation to a very stern test.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
September 14th, 2012
12:40 pm
romney blamed America first.
Then he blamed the filmmaker.
What will his third position be?
Blame the media of course.
godless heathen
September 14th, 2012
12:41 pm
GM is alive and bin Laden is dead! ‘nuf said.
GM is on life support and Christopher Stevens is dead.
Aquagirl
September 14th, 2012
12:41 pm
In the pictures I saw on the innernet tubes you couldn’t see too much
I’m sure you were only there to read the articles.
j nes
September 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
Breaking News: Realizing his knee-jerk reaction was not scoring the political points he was after, Mitt Romney adopts the same stance on the anti-Islamic movie as the White House. The Guinness Book of World Records is currently working to verify whether or not this breaks Romney’s current record of fastest political flip-flop.
http://politicdiscourse.com/2012/09/13/history-repeats-itself-in-libya-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-128
getalife
September 14th, 2012
12:44 pm
romney is one big flip flop. Period.
getalife
September 14th, 2012
12:44 pm
Anything else cons?
Toast.
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:45 pm
LEROI2
and when BUSH was in office not only did embassies get attacked but AMERICANS were attacked on AMERICAN soil…remember 9/11…now u blame the president for killing the worlds number one terrorist…pathetic
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
12:45 pm
“Mitt Romney Condemns Anti-Muslim Film, Echoing White House Position”
Why is Romney sympathizing with them?
P.S. There goes the etch-a-sketch
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
Is there a bigger hypocrite then Romney.
Jay, please do a blog on this. Be as smartars as you can be. I want to see the comments from Romney supporters.
godless heathen
September 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
Looks like things are getting rolling pretty good over there in the ME. Thankfully, as Jay informed us last night, they are not protesting against the US, just that dumb movie.
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
LEROI 2 BLAMES OBAMA for killing OSAMA..he said it made BIN LADEN a martyr…
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
“Though the filmmakers were initially offended by Romney’s review of their work, they realize that the candidate will likely say something nice about them tomorrow.”
b-troll
September 14th, 2012
12:48 pm
“Toast.”
Sure, I’ll drink to a forthcoming Romney presidency.
Incidentally, if Romney wins, liberals will have a coronary….. especially after all this.
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:48 pm
repubs are now mad that OSAMA is dead…lol
b-troll
September 14th, 2012
12:49 pm
capitalism wins in India. Good for them. Lesson for America.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/14/us-india-economy-idUSBRE88D07O20120914
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Naivete’ will destroy one quicker than paranoia.
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-denounces-antimuslim-film-20120914,0,7682703.story
“Mitt Romney denounced an anti-Muslim film that is stirring unrest in the Middle East, even as he stood by his condemnation of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo for its implied denunciation of the film.”
This would be funny if not so sad….
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
11:51 am
Yes. Next question?
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
ROMNEY needs CLINT EASTWOOD to make himself look tough…i’m sure the ARABS are quaking in their boots thinking about a MITTENS presidency
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Both candidates condemn the film and both disagreed with the original statement issued by the embassy in Egypt.
Politics as usual
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
What’s that shaking noise coming from the Romney campaign bus?
Well, here’s a hint. There’s no RESET button on an Etch-A-Sketch.
TiredOfIt
September 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Something for the cons this weekend:
A Caucasian heritage and $75 are the price of entry into this weekend’s international conference for white supremacists in East Tennessee organized by Stormfront, the oldest website devoted to the “white pride, white power” movement.
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
12:53 pm
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Nice opinion.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
12:54 pm
Just heard this:
“Life is memory. Lose your memory and you lose your life. The United States is losing is collective memory for what we once stood for and we are thus losing our life.”
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
12:55 pm
TiredOfIt — “international conference for white supremacists”
For lunch, they’ll be offering a turkey sandwich with white American cheese on white bread with mayo, or grilled breast of chicken served over white rice with cream sauce.
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
Mittens and the repubs are ready to go to war…especially since their kids won’t be fighting
TiredOfIt
September 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
The Obama campaign on Wednesday afternoon announced that it had received the endorsement of the advocacy group National Association of Police Organizations.
“NAPO is proud to endorse the Obama-Biden ticket today,” NAPO President Thomas J. Nee said in a statement forwarded by the campaign.
LeRoi2
September 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
Well now WH Press Secretary has said all those people in the ME burning our embassies, and the German embassy, and protesting at all our other embassies around the world are not mad at the US, or Obama, or the American people, they are merely upset at a You Tube video!
This would be laughable, were it not serious and dangerous. This represents the Admin’s attempt to shirk responsibility for the consequences of its inept policies. It wasn’t us, it was YOU TUBE!
Completely unbelievable.
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
@0113
yeah remember 9/11, we lost 3000 lives on that day..too bad BUSH couldnt keep us safe
Thomas
September 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
“Your statement, given contemporary enhancement, is completely backwards”
Well said and the semantics alone will keep most folks busy this afternoon as they attempt to figure out whether to label you a “con”. Generally they shoot first and aim later contrary to instructions by DC.
Was it a film, a drone, or perhaps evil Bain?
I tell you drones are all fun and games until the last thing you see in life is “трутень” on the side of a shiny object in the sky as you were driving down Ptree.
Drones are more of a future global danger than nukes or global warming- remote joy stick military
wow
September 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
leroi2
so what, havent they always protested against americans…remember 9/11…
MoreRightthanLeft
September 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
AU-
GM unions were saved not the auto industry.
and thanks bush for intel to help assist in getting bin laden
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
1:00 pm
LeRoi2
September 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
Dude, the protesters themselves have said it is b/c of the youtube video.
MoreRightthanLeft
September 14th, 2012
1:00 pm
wow!!! your an idiot
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
September 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
I know that there is no arguing with y’all but
!. Ambassador Stevens was not at the Embassy when he was killed, he was at a lightly defended consulate.
2. The Arab Spring, which brought down despots and promote enough democracy to let their people decide who and how they would be ruled, gave us the Muslim brotherhood. So be it. It’s what they chose.
3. The fact that there HAS been a regime change does, in fact, tell us we don’t know for certain, who is our ally and who isn’t. Now is the time for diplomacy and not division. We need to re-win their hearts and minds if we are to continue to have any say so in the region. Let the experts do their work and wait and see.
4. Has it always been a Republican trait to leap before you look?
MoreRightthanLeft
September 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
youre
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
1:02 pm
your an idiot
Speaking of fourth grade writing skills…
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
youre
Excuse me, third grade…
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
12:54 pm
Just heard this:
“Life is memory. Lose your memory and you lose your life. The United States is losing is collective memory for what we once stood for and we are thus losing our life.”
—————————-
People remember what we stood for in my opinion. People know what we still stand for in my opinion as well.
That is another of the things that make us great. We have an understanding of how we came to be what has made us what we are, while being able to have a debate about the specifics and a debate about how to move that legacy forward. The best part about it is that we get to all claim we are right and we know the future. But then we all come together and decide together through peaceful elections.
That allows us the people to decide our future and that is our most important history.
ZoSo
September 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
“Not that they Questionable morality is capable of actually allowing himself to learn anything that doesn’t fit in perfectly with his chhickenhawk ideology, but what the hell”
takes one to know one
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:05 pm
more right than left
and it was BUSHS incompetence that caused 9/11? if he gets credit for killing OSAMA when OBAMA gave the order doesnt he get blamed for 9/11?
the cat
September 14th, 2012
1:05 pm
The contemptible lyinryan is now speaking on foreign policy. Someone tell him to STFU and wipe that smug look off his lyin face.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
Quip: Obama won the Nobel Prize for peace? Looks like Radical Islam didn’t get the memo.
Now …………. someone asked me earlier (forget who) what I would do regarding the Middle East problem. Here is my honest answer.
1) Appeasement of Radical Islam will NEVER work. You can give them everything they want: help them destroy Israel, all the land they want, all the money they want, build their infrastructure, all the “kowtowing” they want, all of the “dhimmitude” they want, etc., etc., etc. It will never work for one simple reason …………. we are INFIDELS.
2) There is only one way to bring peace to the Middle East but unfortunately it’s an immposibility.
You would have to raise whole new generations of Muslims over there (and everywhere in the world for that matter) without ONE BIT of influence/brainwashing by Radical Islamists. How many of you think that can be accomplished please raise your hand.
3) That leaves one option …………….. keep Radical Islam marginalized and “smacked down” to the greatest extent possible. If the organize …… hit them. If they meet ……… hit them. If they show up to fight ………… hit them. If they go to the bathroom ………… hit them. If they sneeze (and the drone picks it up) ……….. hit them.
I believe with all of my heart that all things considered and over the long, long term that a conservative administration will do a better job of that as opposed to the policies of an appeasing liberal administration.
Therefore, when considering foreign policy, I will vote for the more conservative candidate.
If you disagree with me fine ………… I welcome polite debate vs. personal attack ………. otherwise I will ignore your post.
LeRoi2
September 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
Wow, which 911, the one in 2001, or 2012? Both represent failed Middle East policies by DEM Presidents. Jimmy Carter and the DEMS allowed a “moderate” Khomeini back to take control of Iran. This failure has put the ME where it is today. Billy Clinton had ample opportunities to remove OBL prior to 911, but was too cowardly to act. You seem to have an intellectual process thar relies on DNC talking points only. Easier than thinking for yourself I suppose.
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
1:07 pm
Nice to see Sen. DeMint R,SC has his finger on the pulse of the current crisis:
“You know, we had a lot of bad news this week,” DeMint began. “On my way over, I was reading another story about a distant place where thugs had put 400,000 children out in the streets. And then I realized that was a story about the Chicago teachers strike. But we’ve got to think of good things.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7vY2V18Cc&feature=player_embedded
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
ZoSo, nothing substantive by way of rebuttal vis a vis the Romney Apology Tour?
No, that’s not your deal.
BTW, you do know the definition of chickenhawk, right?
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
The Cat, it’s worth pointing out that Ryan’s spending $2 million on campaign ads.
Ads to help him keep his seat in Congress.
Huh. Thought you wanted to be Vice-President, Mr. Ryan. Not so sure about your chances or something?
(laughing)
jconservative
September 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
“You don’t conduct policy matters with foreign countries in the press do you?”
As a matter of fact, yes you do. Has been done for decades by everyone.
Having said that I do think Obama made an error in making the statement. That is a Sec of State statement. Then the good cop, the President, can come in and seal the deal.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
wow:
My personal opinion is that no administration could have forseen that coming at that scale.
Please keep in mind that the planning and training for 9/11 occurred during the Clinton Administration. Why didn’t he “nip it in the bud” ?
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
1:09 pm
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
1:07 pm
Dumb for a politician to say…………..
But regrettable as it is I would laugh if I heard that joke in a bar.
j nes
September 14th, 2012
1:10 pm
Auto unions are the American auto industry, dumbass.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
0311 — “Please keep in mind that the planning and training for 9/11 occurred during the Clinton Administration. Why didn’t he “nip it in the bud” ?
Clinton already *caught* his WTC bombers. It was Bush’s turn, and he dropped the ball.
ZoSo
September 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
Jammie, you do know the meaning of hypocrite don’t you?
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
@0133
my personal opinion is that BUSH was too weak and incompetent to stop 9/11 from happening.
the cat
September 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
I would write a huge check for the opponent. That would be luscious if lyin ryan lost his seat!
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
The Cat, it’s worth pointing out that Ryan’s spending $2 million on campaign ads.
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
Jimmy Carter AGAIN, meat??? Nearly 22 years and four administrations before that event???
Man, you are one obsessed Republican…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQMpgVY5mg!
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:13 pm
“Naivete’ ” is reading a book that is even trashed by some prominent conservatives because it attempts to depict the radicals in the Muslim world as being the entire Muslim world, then recommending it to others as if it is an objective and realistic take on the issue.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:15 pm
Jam
You have to love it. The same people who will bring up Carter, cry like babies and tell you Bush is no longer President.
hahahahahahaha
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:15 pm
Dear Both @ 11:24, with usual leftist logic you avoid the obvious. I provided you with well-known concrete examples of how conservatives handle mindless opposition from million-member mobs, and you accuse me of dancing around the issue. Do you not realize the common theme, that principled truth is the best way to defeat the mindless mob? “Do not allow them to out-shout you, do not tolerate the false equivalence arguments.” In short, do everything that leftists would not do, and don’t do anything a leftist would do.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:16 pm
“Why didn’t he “nip it in the bud”
I must have missed where you said the same about Bush Sr and the 93 WTC bombing.
You did say it, right?
the cat
September 14th, 2012
1:17 pm
BOSTON (AP) — Mitt Romney is promising to reduce taxes on middle-income Americans.
But how does he define “middle-income”? The Republican presidential nominee defined it as income of $200,000 to $250,000 a year.
Romney commented during an interview broadcast Friday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”
…
The Census Bureau reported this week that the median household income — the midpoint for the nation — is just over $50,000.
He remains clueless.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:19 pm
rags
Are you on some of the Ann special treat (METH)?
What was the US supposed to do in the situation that I mentioned? Mentioning Iraq does not answer the question I asked.
Stop dancing with your two left feet and answer it directly.
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:19 pm
LEROI2
THE 9/11 where OSAMA rammed 3 jets up BUSHS arse..u remenmber that day dont you..the world laughed at BUSHS incompetence…/
Fred ™
September 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
Holy beejeebers there’s a whole herd of idgits on now…………
Thug
September 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
One more time peeps,
OSAMA IS DEAD & GM IS ALIVE!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
wow:
Then why didn’t the Clinton Administration “pre-empt” 9/11.
Several individuals saw it coming (including FBI agents regarding terrorist flight training) and nothing was done.
Fred ™
September 14th, 2012
1:22 pm
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:19 pm
rags
Are you on some of the Ann special treat (METH)?
What was the US supposed to do in the situation that I mentioned? Mentioning Iraq does not answer the question I asked.
Stop dancing with your two left feet and answer it directly.
++++++++++++++++++++
He has to get the voices in his head to agree first………
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
GM continues to be held up by the American taxpayer and they lose thousands of dollars on each “Volt” sold.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
Dear Cat @ 1:17, you inadvertently undermine the leftist position, by suggesting that incomes of $200,000 to $250,000 are “the wealthy.” Of course Obama will increase taxes on $200,000 and up, beyond the taxes added to everyone by ObamaCare. (Remember what the supreme court ruled?)
$250,000 is a middle income level. Believe or not, “middle-income” is not the same as “median.” He is discussing taxes, and you are applying the narrow definition of statistics.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
Anyone wish to comment re: my 1:06 ?
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:24 pm
@0133
then why didnt DUBYA stop 9/11? ..if as u say everybody saw it coming..
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
1:24 pm
A terrorist attack is NEVER any presidents fault! Unless severe negligence can be proven, a serious charge that should not be toss around so lightly.
It is the fault of the terrorist!
Blame should only be cast with how the President reacts to said attack.
Some respect must be given to the terrorist as far as planning and the coordination of their attacks. They do not decide to blow something up on thursday and do it Friday.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:25 pm
Fred
He has convinced himself that saying Bush sent troops to Iraq is an answer to “what was the US supposed to do with millions marching against Mubarak as well as his top generals turning on him and taking their armies with them?”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 14th, 2012
1:25 pm
Holy beejeebers there’s a whole herd of idgits on now…………
Same idgit just posting under multiple sock-puppets.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SHEETS!
Get Real
September 14th, 2012
1:26 pm
It’s a ridiculous statement to you Jay because you are an off the map progressive partisan. Clearly, that is your entitled opinion and after all this is an opinion column. I do not believe there is any magic bullet in dealing with the radical element (growing bigger every day) of Islam in the Middle East.
With that said, I do not believe we can continue to negotiate from a position of appeasement and perceived weakness which I believe emanates from the current administration. Yes, Obama has been “green lighting” numerous drone strikes that have taken out a lot of evil individuals and for that I applaud Obama’s efforts. However, the current level of protests is escalating by the minute and we need to be doing a bit more than talking tough. I am most anxious to hear Obama speak in about an hour to see if it is the “same old same old” or a “no more mister nice guy”.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:26 pm
Dear Fred @ 1:22, if a conservative apologized to the world for Americanism, then found himself with a million-member mob demanding the end to American style freedom, the right solution would be to “nuke” them by reaffirming our values, with clarity and without “reaching out.” We do not have to worry about Obama magnifying American values above the “hurt feelings” of the loonies. He does not do that domestically, so he is even less likely to do that internationally.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:26 pm
Scout
Taxpayers over the years have held up military contractors for years, even for weapon systems we hardly every used or never used. And many Democrats are right in there working to keep it going.
Look it up.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:28 pm
Dear Both @ 1:25, your words are not mine. You defend the policies of appeasement, and I affirm that appeasement always fails.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
Scout
And every weapons system or program is not pertinent to the safety of the US. History has shown this to be fact. A lot of it is just big money flowing into DC to keep the contracts going on the taxpayer dime.
Nothing more, nothing less.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
Dear Fred @ 1:22, the greatest intellectual discourse obtainable from a leftist is “Are you on some of the Ann special treat (METH)?”
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
rags
Answer the question. You must really be “tripping” today.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
1:31 pm
I asked him to show some proof any proof of what he claimed.
Do you not ask for proof of things posters here claim.
I ask for proof of verifiable claims, yes. But I usually am only asking for such things in relation to public affairs, data, studies, etc… not whether or not someone did something at some point in their lives.
I wouldn’t usually ask for someone to prove that they once defended someone else on the blog, or something like that because a) I don’t think that’s important and b) unless it’s in the day’s threads it is unlikely they would be able to. I limit such discussions to the conversation at hand, and usually do not have to ask because I can go so for myself where the conversation started and what was being said. And if I misread something you’ll see a “mea culpa” from me after that’s pointed out.
But, when I ask for welfare queen sighting proof I’m only being half serious anyway.
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:31 pm
get real
didnt BUSH get tough by fighting 2 wars? how did that turn out
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
1:31 pm
The Cat — “I would write a huge check for the opponent. That would be luscious if lyin ryan lost his seat!”
Have at it, Cat. Just be sure to follow all applicable laws regarding donations. Just because Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers are all skeevy with their campaign donations doesn’t mean that you have to be as well.
http://www.robzerban.com/
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:31 pm
Dear Both @ 1:29, when my older son and I took a ride on an aircraft carrier with my younger son, the ship put on a mini-air show. As the jet sounded a sonic boom around 200 feet above our ship, my older son said, “that is the sound of freedom at work, preserving itself.”
GT
September 14th, 2012
1:32 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 the Republicans are banking on us forgetting what they did to us in the Bush days.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:32 pm
Rags
They were your words or a paraphrase because you deflected to Bush as an answer to my earlier question.
Giving an example to another issue is not an answer to a direct question.
Of course that is your choice, however just because you have fooled yourself doesn’t mean others are fooled.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
1:32 pm
Marty: A terrorist attack is NEVER any presidents fault! Unless severe negligence can be proven, a serious charge that should not be toss around so lightly.
It is the fault of the terrorist!
Quoted for truth
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:33 pm
Dear Both @ 1:29, you are incapable of formulating a coherent question.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:33 pm
rags @ 1:31
Thanks for your son’s service. My father is a retired Lt Col who severed three tours in Vietnam.
But none of that answers the question I asked.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
1:33 pm
And, dear Both @ 1:29, you are incapable of comprehending a coherent answer that is contrary to your script.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:34 pm
Rags
Quit being the big RICHARD you love to be.
What should have been the US response to millions of people marching against Mubarak along with numerous top generals turning away from him and taking their armies with them?
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
1:36 pm
Rags
Take care. Don;t take too much of that stuff your demagogue Ann loved to take. It will rot your brain.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
1:36 pm
0311 — “Several individuals saw it coming (including FBI agents regarding terrorist flight training) and nothing was done.”
If, as you say, Clinton did nothing about it, then the same criticism attaches to Bush.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
wow:
The point I am trying to make is that there is blame on both sides.
I call “em like I see ‘em.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
R. Danneskjold — “you inadvertently undermine the leftist position, by suggesting that incomes of $200,000 to $250,000 are “the wealthy.”
Dishonest Rags strikes again.
She did no such thing, and your enclosure of the wealthy in double quotes is clearly a dishonest attempt to make it appear that she said those specific words.
“Of course Obama will increase taxes on $200,000 and up, beyond the taxes added to everyone by ObamaCare. (Remember what the supreme court ruled?)”
I do. And the SCOTUS did *not* say that it was a tax, so Dishonest Ragnar strikes again.
You pretty clearly need to read what the majority decision *actually* said, Rags.
“$250,000 is a middle income level. Believe or not, “middle-income” is not the same as “median.” He is discussing taxes, and you are applying the narrow definition of statistics.”
Your previously demonstrated lack of facility with statistics is well-supported by this latest display of innnumeracy on your part.
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
it amazes me that repubs are having orgasms blaming OBAMA for the embassy attacks but these same people let DSBYA off the hook for 9/11…how can anyone take these rubes seriously
Get Real
September 14th, 2012
2:02 pm
“I do. And the SCOTUS did *not* say that it was a tax, so Dishonest Ragnar strikes again.”
A distinction without a difference. It was ruled constitutional as a tax, otherwise it overstepped the Commerce clause……nice try Joe..
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
Get Real — “A distinction without a difference.”
Incorrect.
“It was ruled constitutional as a tax, otherwise it overstepped the Commerce clause”
Failburger with LOLsauce. That’s not what they said.
The decision SPECIFICALLY said that if the penalty could be “characterized” as a tax, then it was within Congress’ power to impose it. The SCOTUS did NOT call it or describe it as a tax; in fact, the decision studiously AVOIDS saying what it is or is not.
“……nice try Joe..”
And it’s a success on my part, too. You might want to try actually reading what I’m talking about before you try to refute me next time, because coming unarmed to this fight has turned out decidedly poorly for you.
TiredOfIt
September 14th, 2012
2:21 pm
wow
September 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
it amazes me that repubs are having orgasms blaming OBAMA for the embassy attacks but these same people let DSBYA off the hook for 9/11…how can anyone take these rubes seriously.
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You can’t!