Under President Romney, Mideast would be calm? Really?
Advisers to Mitt Romney on Thursday defended his sharp criticism of President Obama and said that the deadly protests sweeping the Middle East would not have happened if the Republican nominee were president.
“There’s a pretty compelling story that if you had a President Romney, you’d be in a different situation,” Richard Williamson, a top Romney foreign policy adviser, said in an interview. “For the first time since Jimmy Carter, we’ve had an American ambassador assassinated.”
Williamson added, “In Egypt and Libya and Yemen, again demonstrations — the respect for America has gone down, there’s not a sense of American resolve and we can’t even protect sovereign American property.”
I’m sorry: That has to be one of the more ridiculous statements I have seen in a long time. Who’s running this campaign, Honey Boo-Boo?
So we are to believe that Mitt Romney, by the sheer Mitt-normity of his Mitt-strength, would square his Mitt-jaw and single-handedly suppress not just decades, not just centuries, but millenia of seething anger and frustration among hundreds of millions of people in the Islamic world. Their anger and insecurities would all vanish, and the roiling seas would be made calm?
It’s a feat that Ronald Reagan couldn’t perform — the death of 241 Marines in their barracks in Lebanon and the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, with another 63 killed, bear clear testimony to his inadequacy. George W. Bush, the hard-bitten Texan, was such a wimp that Islamic terrorists dared to murder thousands of our fellow Americans here on our own soil and launch a dozen attacks against our embassies.
And Barack Obama? As Rush Limbaugh suggested yesterday, Obama is so weak that al Qaida offered up Osama bin Laden as a sacrifice to us, just to ensure that Obama would be re-elected.
Oh, but under the fearsome glare and resolve of the Mitt-y One, all would quake. Because all would know that if they dared to cross the line, His RomniPOTUS would … do what exactly? Smite them with a simple arch of his eyebrow?
P.T. Barnum once claimed that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. The Romney campaign is putting that observation to a very stern test.
– Jay Bookman
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JamVet
September 14th, 2012
10:54 am
…put security cameras on their buses and trains…
Yep, because 67% of the time, people are confronted by psychopathic miscreants!!!!
No sale on your made up BS, Scout…
nelson
September 14th, 2012
10:54 am
With Romney as President the middle east would know his position. As it is now, President Obama has strong sympathies for the muslim countries. That is the issue, would Romney have a more objective attitude towards Islam, it is my opinion he would.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 14th, 2012
10:54 am
I rode MARTA daily for 7 years without incident and rarely saw any trouble. I have seen more arrests at local malls.
I did witness someone shooting from one car at the car in front of him while driving once. I guess that is why there are cameras on all the interstates because of the animals driving, right Senior Digits.
Morality?
September 14th, 2012
10:54 am
And if you have time today can you expound on the vast experience Obama had while in the military? It should take you about ONE second MAX. Let’s not bring up Romney’s lack of military when your man has none either. Touche’.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
10:55 am
Scout
I can only tell you my experience on Marta, just as you have done.
Would you want to me to lie to make you feel good?
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
10:55 am
There is no moral equivalence between an objectionable film and the murder of diplomats. To argue for same is to accept the ethically-bankrupt pretext for the anti-Americanism latent in the Muslim world.
kayaker 71
September 14th, 2012
10:56 am
Ira, 10:33,
All of the ones you mention are random in nature and not necessarily motivated by religious preference, the abortion doctor being an exception. McVey and Nichols were not religious zealots, just pissed off American citizens because of Waco. The Muslim involvement involves entire countries, entire populations and virtually everyone who calls himself/herself a Muslim. Muslims today attacked the German embassy in Sudan. There appears to be some kind of universal hate among these people against the West. We will have to confront it some time in the future. Bush tried and failed in Iraq. Bozo is failing in Afghanistan. The only one who has no choice but confrontation is Bebe. He has a country to protect. Granted, we are beset with a variety of violence that has nothing to do with Islam however, Islam seems to be the one that needs most attention.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
10:56 am
ADAM,
Agreed. The birther issue is absurd and the whole evangelical religious garb from the right is materially more distasteful and offensive…I wouldn’t argue either so these aren’t good examples for me….anyone who wants to debate those is….well…you know:-)
The other stuff like economic policy, leadership, foreign policy etcetera are worthy of debate and I do strive to be able to argue both sides…of course empathy is difficult to muster when I have preconcieved notions..
Regnad Kcin
September 14th, 2012
10:57 am
“Obamas exact words..”Eric there is nothing too crazy here…” finally, “Elections has consequences Eric..and I won…” “so on that I trump you..”
And with those few words, civilization as we knew it ended. The republicans’ feelings were SO hurt, they vowed that never again would anything good happen in this country.
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
10:57 am
As Rush Limbaugh suggested yesterday, Obama is so weak that al Qaida offered up Osama bin Laden as a sacrifice to us, just to ensure that Obama would be re-elected.
The man has huge talent.
No matter how depraved the last one (you sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis) the RNC Chairman always seems to find a way to outdo his last slobbering, malicious lie.
That is then bandied around here by JKL2, Frank, rags and others as the gospel…
Aquagirl
September 14th, 2012
10:57 am
I go see the Logistics expert. He explains he never had to do this type of work in Iraq.
Well, sounds like your company sucks at HR and hiring. Some beancounter decided they needed a Vet for the tax break. Sorry you work for dumb@$$es who pursue profit over everything else. Which is the basic difference between “contractor” and “soldier.”
I’m sure you work very hard for a living, now please stop with the ooh, we gotta work through BREAKS! chest thumping. You’ve made several remarks that are derogatory whether you realize it or not. I don’t care if you think the difference between contractors and troops is the troops occasionally fire a few rounds from rifles held over their heads, frankly you sound like an @$$ when you blat out such statements.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
10:57 am
Jam
I can see Scout looking all paranoid, ready to pull a knife or gun while he rides the train………
getalife
September 14th, 2012
10:58 am
romney has proven to be a knee jerk con and would start WWIII in Iran.
He would collapse our economy and our country would collapse.
I think that is what the cons really want.
Country last.
Matti
September 14th, 2012
10:58 am
HAHAHA! Good column, Mr. Bookman!
Sad in that it so accurately describes just how stupid today’s hi-jacked GOP “leaders” seem to think the American people are, but an entertaining piece nonetheless. Nicely clarified.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
10:58 am
ragnar danneskjold @ 10:55
Thank you.
Regnad Kcin
September 14th, 2012
10:59 am
“And if you have time today can you expound on the vast experience Obama had while in the military? It should take you about ONE second MAX. Let’s not bring up Romney’s lack of military when your man has none either. Touche’.”
He’s been the C-in-C for 4 years – what’s Mitt’s experience again?
Oscar
September 14th, 2012
10:59 am
I don’t think anyone knows what Romney’s positions are on the middle east – or on anything esle. He keeps changing his statements.
Don’t see how lack of clarity could calm any situation.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:59 am
Not comparing or even accusing Jay of being unfair to conservative and too nice to liberal posters.
Apparently that was what you thought I was saying based on your 1st comment directed at me.
No, I don’t think that, but that’s the only thing I have ever kept because people were making that claim here a lot.
You’re the first to actually insist that Jay PROVE that he did something he said he did. It is not possible for me to go back and find when he actually did it and show it to you. And yes, even if I did, you would deny it.
But I’m not wasting my time that way. If you feel like wasting your time with this nonsense, Google “site:blogs.ajc.com” and see if you can figure out the keywords necessary to find Jay’s posts. If you’re able to magically find anything Jay has ever said this way, please share your magic with the rest of us.
Otherwise, what you’re really saying is that you’re giving a blog where a journalist blogs opinion attention, while simultaneously saying you don’t trust a word he says. That sounds like even more of a waste of time, but whatever.
Morality?
September 14th, 2012
11:00 am
Obama’s knowledge of God was molded by Rev Rat who’s most famous quote is “G. D. America”. Either Obama was sleeping in the balcony or he agrees with the good reverunt.
getalife
September 14th, 2012
11:00 am
Embassy breached in Tunisia.
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
11:01 am
With Romney as President the middle east would know his position.
Missionary.
Only.
And only for procreation purposes.
Everything else does not meet with Eddie Meese’s approval…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 14th, 2012
11:01 am
Wrong. I don’t ride it.
P.S. Obama had all of the answers for solving the Middle East problem in 2008. Ask him.
But I warn you ………. he had all the answers for our economic problems too !
To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
11:01 am
“The latest is that they burned down a KFC in Lebanon. That’s an insult to fried chicken lovers everywhere!”
That is terrible news and I was planning to open a Mohammed’s BBQ there!
kayaker 71
September 14th, 2012
11:01 am
Oscar, 10:59,
Then perhaps we’ll have to elect him to find out. Worked for Pelosi.
rightwing troll
September 14th, 2012
11:01 am
“The Supreme Court picks.”
Based on some recent decisions handed down by W’s SCOTUS, maybe letting Obama pick the next two would be best…
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
11:01 am
Morality — “And if you have time today can you expound on the vast experience Obama had while in the military?”
I didn’t assert that he had any in the first place, but since you asked, he served on the Senate Foreign Relations and Veterans’ Affairs committees (another pair of places where he was more qualified than Romney right off the bat), and he served on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs as well, starting in 2007.
“It should take you about ONE second MAX.”
I’m a fast typist, but not quite that fast. (laughing)
“Let’s not bring up Romney’s lack of military when your man has none either.”
Romney’s sole claim to military service is being ‘Commander-In-Chief of the Massachusetts State National Guard’ by dint of his election as Governor, so while I’m sorry that it hurts your tender, pwecious feefees, too bad. I’m going to keep bringing it up.
“Touche”
Right back at you and your woefully underqualified candidate, Punkin. (laughing)
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:02 am
Everyone behave……….
And just remember; PARANOIA will destroy ya
Tina So,,s
September 14th, 2012
11:02 am
What is happening in the world is like the grating of two huge tectonic plates. Our main job is to protect ourselves from the overflow of their discontent. We can’t change their culture any more than they can change ours. The roots go waaaay deep. It may take them generations to make their accommodation to modernity. Think how long it took the US to rid itself of slavery, from the first rumbles of abolitionism to the Civil war. And even after that, racism is dying hard. Technology changes fast, but customary behaviors are extraordinarily tenacious. Consider this: If 200,000 occupying troops of a different culture were assigned to change the folkways of Mississippi, how long do you think it would take for the local good ole boys to stop ambushing them? A hundred years? Two hundred years?
ahnald
September 14th, 2012
11:03 am
So Jay, I guess your fav Obozo , i.e Hussein Obozo’s policy of peace n luv, and lets use diplomacy, and the “Arab Spring” is what we need…gimme a break, we are seen as weak, Obozo has economic plan, no foriegn policy….well, wait , his buddy, Rev Wright said it best, “America,your chickens are coming home to roost “…this country HAS NOTHING to look forward too if Obozo is re-elected. Heaven knows what signals the Iranians must be getting now
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
11:03 am
Dear Both @ 10:53, good morning. When Reagan found millions marching in the streets against his nuclear policies, and “star wars” in particular, he adhered to his principles. He did not apologize for calling the Soviet Union an “evil empire” despite the horror “felt” by leftists. When George W Bush found millions protesting his “torture” policies, he refused to apologize for waterboarding the two guys whose disclosures led to the assassination of bin Laden.
We need not worry about such resolution in the current administration, but primary affirmation of American principles is a necessary precondition to the actions necessary thereafter, any time. “A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them….”
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
11:04 am
BOTH, perhaps.
But I suspect that the “good book’ is his weapon of choice.
Clubbing someone with a 100 pound Bible can be very effective…
Kay, when is your next Koran burning party?
Adam
September 14th, 2012
11:04 am
Stevie Ray: Well, for instance we have empirical data that shows tax cuts on the top 10% actually does NOT create any job growth. Yet the “debate” always seems to come back to that because facts and data do not dissuade people from something like that. The data rarely seems to work for the right these days, and when it does there is a high probability it is being made up or cherry picked.
To take another example of cherry picked, that 4.5 million jobs thing is cherry picked for sure. Set your start marker at February 2010. That’s nonsense. It’s the same thing as Rand Paul specifically excluding the Postal Service from Federal jobs when he’s trying to make his case that federal employment has grown astronomically under Obama, AFTER first making the point that ALL OF GOVERNMENT has grown astronomically under Obama.
TiredOfIt
September 14th, 2012
11:05 am
I think the middle east needs football and beer. Rioting is not a good hobby, but what else have they got to to?
Thulsa Doom
September 14th, 2012
11:05 am
“It’s a feat that Ronald Reagan couldn’t perform — the death of 241 Marines in their barracks in Lebanon and the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, with another 63 killed, bear clear testimony to his inadequacy.”
And of course you left out that RR bombed the hell out of Libya in response to state supported terrorism and we didn’t hear a peep out of Khadafy for a long, long time. That’s what happens when you start dealing from a position of strength.
“George W. Bush, the hard-bitten Texan, was such a wimp that Islamic terrorists dared to murder thousands of our fellow Americans here on our own soil and launch a dozen attacks against our embassies.”
Gee whiz Jay make up your mind. Is a wimp or is he the war mongering cowboy waging war throughout the middle east?
Gonna suck not being able to go to KFC if I ever get to Lebanon.
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
11:05 am
“No matter how depraved the last one (you sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis) the RNC Chairman always seems to find a way to outdo his last slobbering, malicious lie.”
If you dont like lying then stop lying. Rush is not the RNC Chairman and he does not tell malicious lies. He has the ears of the airways and that is what gets under your thin pale skin.
ZoSo
September 14th, 2012
11:05 am
http://www.itsmarta.com/crime-comparison.aspx
double
September 14th, 2012
11:07 am
Ishmael/Isaac,who gonna win?
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:09 am
ragnar
Thanks for the deflection. You didn’t come close to answering that question because you are full aware, even if you do not want to admit, that the US was not going to do much with millions marching in the streets and the military turning on Mubarak. Yes there were millions and millions across that country.
Of course they were not a monolithic group, but millions are still millions and Mubarak was losing control of the military quicker than Romney has changed positions to obtain your vote.
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
11:09 am
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:59 am
Again had you read my post instead of going all Romney on them you would have seen that is what I was asking for.
I also dispute your claim that it provided I would not believe it. Seems that is your response when you out your foot in your mouth and can’t possibly or do not know if you can back up your immature pontificating.
Again Jay made the original claim, very telling you do not ask him to prove it as I bet he has a lil more access to the archives than we do.
Matti
September 14th, 2012
11:09 am
They BOTH,
There’s a red under your bed, and there’s a little green man in your head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSbSueq_KSY
Thulsa Doom
September 14th, 2012
11:09 am
Williebkind,
Do Muslims eat pork? I don’t think they do but I’m not sure so Mohammed’s barbque pit may not last long. So now that KFC is gone and they can’t eat pork they’re stuck with just cow and maybe goat. No wonder they’re so pissed off.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
11:10 am
Williebkind — “Rush is not the RNC Chairman”
He might as well be, given how slavishly GOP leaders adhere to his rantings.
“and he does not tell malicious lies.”
What sort of lies does he tell, then? Candy-coated ones with sprinkles on them?
“He has the ears of the airways and that is what gets under your thin pale skin.”
Not under *my* skin. What gets my goat is how rough and tough GOP leaders and members talk about this, that and the other, but when it comes to calling Rush on his bulldada, not a man-jack among them has nut number one.
catlady
September 14th, 2012
11:10 am
Perhaps the President, after his re-election, will appoint Mitt to be a sacrificial lamb for diplomacy’s sake.
These people are incredible! And their slack jawed supporters must be the world’s biggest buffoons.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 14th, 2012
11:10 am
Rush should be arrested for being a terrorist. He must be to know that AQ offered up OBL to relect Obama. I mean he must have a terrorist source for that claim and the others he has made so he must be conspiring with them. Or is his defense “I just make things up to see what my idiot listeners will believe, can you believe how stupid my listeners are?”
Jones
September 14th, 2012
11:10 am
The statement:
“The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
About four hours later, crowds began to form and over the next several hours, the protesters stormed the embassy compound, destroyed a U.S. flag and replaced it with an Islamic flag. About three hours later, according to the Washington Examiner, the embassy tweeted, “This morning’s condemnation (issued before protest began) still stands. As does our condemnation of unjustified breach of the Embassy.” (This tweet has disappeared from the Embassy Twitter feed.)
(thanks to Politifact)
Adam
September 14th, 2012
11:10 am
Thulsa: and we didn’t hear a peep out of Khadafy for a long, long time. That’s what happens when you start dealing from a position of strength.
Yep, then we started hearing from him again that he was going to commit genocide. Obama sent in next to no ground forces, set up a no fly zone, and that was enough for the Libyans to topple their own dictator. And it happened very quickly. And now we won’t hear from him again EVER.
I guess that’s what happens when you act SMARTLY instead of just “from a position of strength.”
Checkmate.
Joe Hussein Mama
September 14th, 2012
11:11 am
Doom — “So now that KFC is gone and they can’t eat pork they’re stuck with just cow and maybe goat.”
Don’t diss the goat; that’s good eatin.’
And you left out chicken and lamb!
zeke
September 14th, 2012
11:11 am
The whole problem started actually in WWII when Ike and others started looking at war as a political game! How to put the best foot forward politically. Again in Korea. Again in Vietnam. Then in Iraq and Afghanistan! What should have been done in all cases is to have allowed the military to do the jobs they have been trained to do, BREAK THINGS AND KILL PEOPLE! THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN A WAR! In all these cases since WWII, it has only been treated as a political incursion and a police action! Patton was right in WWII about Russia! MacArthur was right in Korea about China! Westmoreland was right in Vietnam when he said let me do my job and this will be over in 6 months! What did that do for him? GOT HIM FIRED BY SOME POLITICALLY MOTIVATED MORON! We should have hit Iraq and Afghanistan with everything available and the situations would have been pacified in 6 months or less! BREAK THINGS AND KILL LOTS OF PEOPLE! THAT IS WHAT AN ARMY IS SUPPOSED TO DO, NOT SIT BACK AND WAIT UNTIL IT IS ATTACKED TO FIRE AT THE ENEMY, NOT TO WAIT ANT TAKE SERIOUS ATTACK TO MAKE SURE SOME CIVILIAN IS NOT IN THE WAY! FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO LEARN IS THAT IN A WAR, THERE ARE NO INNOCENT CIVILIANS!! You know, WE EITHER DO IT NOW, IN THEIR COUNTRIES, WITH ALL FORCES AVAILABLE, OR, WE WILL AT SOME POINT HAVE TO DEFEND OURSELVES HERE ON USA SOIL! Unfortunately, I do not think enough of our citizens will have the courage to defend the country or themselves! They will as government has done, try to negotiate with diplomacy with liars intent on destroying this great country,and get us all killed!!!!
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:11 am
TD
So Libya stopped sponsoring terrorism after Reagan bombed him?
Really?
Granted he got of his high house, but you are higher than the moon if you think Libya was still not a player on the world terrorism scene.
By the way, hope the pup is doing well.
Jones
September 14th, 2012
11:11 am
…from Politifact;
John Murphy, a communications professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who studies presidential rhetoric and political language, said Romney was wrong to label it an apology.
“First, the statement does not use the word ‘apology’ or ‘apologize’ and does not use any synonym for that word. There is no statement here that says, ‘We are sorry.’
“Second, the grammar of the statement condemns the actions of a third party. An apology, to be pedantic, is when the first party says to the second party, ‘I have offended you and I am sorry.’ This statement condemns a third party — misguided individuals — that does not officially represent the United States. The term ‘individuals’ dissociates them from the U.S. Therefore, it’s impossible to say that this is an apology from the U.S. to anyone.
“Third, the statement does not apologize for the right of free speech; it affirms it. It condemns those who abuse the right of free speech, but it claims that this is a universal right, as is religious toleration. So, the statement does not like what the misguided individuals said and did, but recognizes they have a right to do it.”
“It’s a condemnation,” Murphy said, “not an apology.”
Regnad Kcin
September 14th, 2012
11:12 am
” Rush is not the RNC Chairman and he does not tell malicious lies.”
1) He IS the de facto head of the party – All conservative politicians bow to him (see how I set all the “all true sctsmen, there?).
2) He does not tell BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH – sorry, I can’t even type th phrase
getalife
September 14th, 2012
11:12 am
More proof one man can change everything.
A coptic christian made a stupid movie insulting Islam and all hell breaks loose.
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
11:12 am
Peace thru strenghth–the neutron bomb!
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
11:12 am
Oh Gawd, not the “memory challenged” randian extolling the bravery of Saint Ronnie again?!
After his last blunder earlier this week on that very topic, one would think that he would kinda lay low on making up transparent nonsense about it again.
But… what the hell?
…waterboarding the two guys whose disclosures led to the assassination of bin Laden.
And rags, whose rectal cavity did you pull that one out of???
BRIAN WILLIAMS, “NBC NIGHTLY NEWS”: Can you confirm that it was as a result of waterboarding that we learned what we needed to learn to go after bin Laden?
LEON PANETTA, CIA DIRECTOR: Brian, in the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information and that was true here … It’s a little difficult to say it was due just to one source of information that we got … I think some of the detainees clearly were, you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees. But I’m also saying that, you know, the debate about whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question.
rightwing troll
September 14th, 2012
11:12 am
“Obama’s knowledge of God was molded by Rev Rat who’s most famous quote is “G. D. America”. Either Obama was sleeping in the balcony or he agrees with the good reverunt.”
And Mittens knowledge of God was molded by a shyster confidence man who found some golden plates with God’s true word on them, and who wore magic underwear.
Matti
September 14th, 2012
11:14 am
Gee whiz Jay make up your mind. Is a wimp or is he the war mongering cowboy waging war throughout the middle east?
Not mutually exclusive, Sparky. Bullies are just cowardly underneath — especially bullies who send other people’s kids to die to settle their own personal scores.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
11:14 am
The essential principle underlaying all other American principles is “individual freedom.”
John Stuart Mill – father of the modern liberal ideology:
Whatever crushes individuality is despotism, by whatever name it may be called and whether it professes to be enforcing the will of God or the injunctions of men.
We have a right, also, in various ways, to act upon our unfavorable opinion of anyone, not to the oppression of his individuality, but in the exercise of ours.
The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
11:14 am
Seems that is your response when you out your foot in your mouth and can’t possibly or do not know if you can back up your immature pontificating.
Why don’t you ask me about something that is possible for me to verify instead of claiming “You can’t prove God exists, therefore – HE DOES!” It is a logical fallacy to assume that you win just because I am unable to find a specific instance of Jay calling someone out for looking at it.
It is also nonsense that you would create a credibility claim for Jay based on the false idea that being even handed lends credibility, just as much as it is nonsense for you to claim that I myself have no credibility because I am unable to prove something that would be impossible for me to prove anyway.
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
11:14 am
“2) He does not tell BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH – sorry, I can’t even type th phrase ”
Do you get that warm and fuzzy feeling running down your legs too!
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
11:14 am
Adam,
Also I have not said I do not trust a word Bookman says.
I question this particular incident.
I do not mind if you choose to lie or stretch the truth about other things or people they are your morals . However I will kindly ask that you do not speak for me or outright lie about what I have or have not posted.
I will and have shown you the same type of respect.
I think we all can agree to that as a favor to one another.
getalife
September 14th, 2012
11:16 am
As the cons continue to blame and attack America, sane Americans blame the coptic christian for inciting this violence. He is a career criminal that went to prison for selling meth and fake id’s. He is the right’s hero.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:16 am
TD
For the record, I had no problem with Reagan ordering the bombings in Libya. Just saying they remained a player on the exporting or terror scene
Adam
September 14th, 2012
11:16 am
Excuse me, that should read “because I am unable to find a specific instance of Jay calling someone out so you can look at it.”
Mister.Earl
September 14th, 2012
11:16 am
The Entertainer
Keep Up The Good Fight is 100 percent accurate.
“Rush (Limbaugh) should be arrested for being a terrorist. He must be to know that AQ offered up OBL to relect Obama. I mean he must have a terrorist source for that claim and the others he has made so he must be conspiring with them. Or is his defense “I just make things up to see what my idiot listeners will believe, can you believe how stupid my listeners are?”
What has Limbaugh contributed to intelligent discussion of the issues?
Nothing.
Erwin's cat
September 14th, 2012
11:17 am
Doom – …they’re stuck with just cow and maybe goat
don’t knock baby goat until you try it…it’s really tasty
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
11:17 am
Dear Both @ 11:09, perhaps we can agree that leftists are unwilling to defend American principles if it requires risk or real action. I think conservatives would have little reservation about doing the heavy lifting, e.g., Iraq.
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
11:18 am
Regnad Kcin
September 14th, 2012
11:12 am
Dittoheads are as absurdly unethical and veracity challenged as their radio master!
The man is the biggest sitting sh*tsorm of prevarications, deceitfulness, dishonesty, distortions, equivocations, falsehoods, fibs, and lies known to modern western civilization, but his fanatical base swears he is as pure as the driven snow and is fact the George Washington of talking heads.
Their cowardice to call him what he is, is, in a word, disgusting…
Thulsa Doom
September 14th, 2012
11:18 am
Al qaeda gave up Osama bin laden???
Someone should be polite and send them a thank you note.
Halftrack
September 14th, 2012
11:19 am
We should look at the worldview of the 2 candidates. Obummer’s worldview is one of “celebrity”. Rommney”s worldview does include some rational to it. Tough times are ahead. Which do you want: a celebrity president or one that has a little common sense?
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
11:19 am
Now the Emabassy in Tunis is burning…
@KTNV tweeted:
#BREAKING: TUNIS, Tunisia (AP) — Large cloud of black smoke seen coming from around US embassy in Tunis.
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Thulsa Doom
September 14th, 2012
11:20 am
And I guess it should be Rush that sends them the thank you note.
Morality?
September 14th, 2012
11:20 am
Kcin …………. and what camel did you ride in on? Thanks for not answering the question; something libs are good at…… smoke and mirrors. Can’t you admit that Obama had ZERO military experience when he came in to office AND he still has zero military experience? How is that different than Romney? Obama’s on the job training by Nanny Pelosi and Harry Weed nets him a grade of D+ with the military. Recent polls say that a vast majority of active military personnel will not vote Obama. Obama is our 1st “Reality Show” president. To nave to lead.
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
11:20 am
Dear Jones @ 11:11, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. No matter how many experts affirm it is not a duck.
rightwing troll
September 14th, 2012
11:21 am
“Dear Both @ 11:09, perhaps we can agree that leftists are unwilling to defend American principles if it requires risk or real action. I think conservatives would have little reservation about doing the heavy lifting, e.g., Iraq.”
If only Iraq had been about defending American principles… Killing OBL certainly was.
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
11:22 am
Adam
September 14th, 2012
11:14 am
I never asked you to prove it until you CHOSE to interject yourself into what Jay and I were discussing.
You made the claim from the beginning that I would not believe the proof even when shown to me.
And that was before I asked you personally for any proof.
Also I never claimed Jay should be unpartisian! That is a claim YOU are projecting onto me.
Jay made a smart azz post about “I wonder why that is?”
All I did was ask him the same question of himself.
So what are you talking about?
ragnar danneskjold
September 14th, 2012
11:23 am
Dear Troll @ 11:21, introducing individual freedom, to a culture long dominated by a murderous dictator, does not affirm American values? Is your contempt for individual freedom so great that you do not appreciate the magnitude of that accomplishment?
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:24 am
ragnar
You keep dancing around the question. You must have been a regular on American Band Stand or Soul Train back in the day.
Again, what was the US to do with millions marching in the streets all over Egypt and the top generals turning from Mubarak with their troops in tact.
You must already be dizzy from all that spinning you are doing.
getalife
September 14th, 2012
11:25 am
The right do love them some drug addicts.
Obama is over
September 14th, 2012
11:26 am
Obama’s foreign policy is just like his failed energy policy and his failed economic poilicy- a total disaster. In Obamaland, U.S. allies do not trust us and our enemies do not fear us. In his speech in Cairo in 2009, Obama famously called for Muslims and Americans around the world to have mutual respect for one another. I suppose if Israel attacks Iran, Obama would call his buddies in Syria and Yemen and ask for an econmic boycot or try to put Israel in “timeout”. With the attacks on U.S. embassies this week, Obama’s Middle East strategy is obviously wrong. Tuesday, the New York times ran a shameful op-ed piece attempting to assign blame for 9/11 on Bush because of flawed intelligence data- pure partisan propaganda. Then, new attacks on American embassies around the world occur on 9/11.Uh Oh! What a shocker! You mean Obama’s muslim buddies in the middle East don’t like us and decided to attack us on a random date like 9/11? Who would have guessed that terrorists might find 9/11 significant and that we should beef up protection of Americans on foreign soil?Maybe Obama should go to an intelligence briefing and get caught up with what is going on in the world. Obama’s foreign policy is like his domestic economic poilcy. “It’s not really working right now (I inherited a horrible situation and can’t take blame for anything), but I promise it will get better as soon as THEY start paying for YOU.” Only in the case of his fatal foriegn policy, American citizens are dying. As President, Obama has to accept responsibility for that.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:26 am
rags
Do you were not ok with a despot being disposed of in Egypt, but it was cool for Iraq?
Is that what you are conveying?
Indians would say that you speak with fork tongue.
HDB
September 14th, 2012
11:26 am
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
10:24 am
Are you saying that HISTORY is far-reaching?? Remember, Iran didn’t get the way it did without US and British interference!! It’s not a reach….
…and FDR got us into WW2 BECAUSE of Pearl Harbor…..he didn’t instigate the bombing; the JAPANESE did!!
Jm
September 14th, 2012
11:27 am
“Embassy breached in Tunisia.”
Nights in Tunisia…..
deneicy
September 14th, 2012
11:27 am
Mitt can pretend alarm–but the NEOCON Bushies in his advisory team are ECSTATIC! This violence is exactly what they have been dreaming of and very likely INCITING around the world! These imperialists cannot wait for ANY excuse for their NOBLE WARS.
Doggone/GA
September 14th, 2012
11:28 am
“And you left out chicken and lamb!”
And camel
godless heathen
September 14th, 2012
11:28 am
Grandiose predictions from a candidate for public office. Well, I never……
Jm
September 14th, 2012
11:28 am
Sorry
That should be “night in Tunisia”
Singular
Peadawg
September 14th, 2012
11:29 am
“Dear Troll @ 11:21, introducing individual freedom, to a culture long dominated by a murderous dictator, does not affirm American values? ”
Invading another county that was no threat to us absolutely does not affirm American values. It’s not our job to police the world.
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
11:29 am
Recent polls say that a vast majority of active military personnel will not vote Obama.
Yep, Mitt “Blood & Guts” Romney will likely get a vast majority 60% and Obama 40%.
Ironic, given that a combat veteran hero and man of inestimable courage and valor, not some pantywaist, quasi-French coward from Massachusetts only got 54% of the military vote in 2008…
Jm
September 14th, 2012
11:31 am
I think night “Night in Tunisia” should be FNM lead off
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:32 am
Jm
You seem to be basking and glowing in these tragic events.
That is truly pathetic.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:33 am
So you were not
excuse me
LeRoi2
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
Why has the AJC made no reference to all of the reports in other media that the US was warned 24-48 hours in advance of an attack being planned against our Embassy, and did nothing? Why do so many Obama sheeple, who jump on here to comment, use only the AJC fish wrapper as their only source of info? Why is a supposed comment by a candidates advisor, not the candidate himself, even warrant a mention in a political column? It’s because rather than engage in an honest discussion of the Middle East policies of Obama, Bookman chooses the low road of yellow journalism, and instead provokes the members of the Obama apology brigades to weigh in with their usual ignorance. Many many political observers, here in the US and abroad opined that the Obama apology tour of the ME, combined with his sophomoric attempts to personally involve himself in policy, an area where he had no knowledge, would result in exactly what has happened. Throw in his usual narcissistic arrogance, his total lack of ANY leadership qualities, and this leaves us with the sort of mess in the ME unmatched only since when Jimmy Carter facilitated the return of Khomeini to Iran, believing he was a moderate. The Middle East is going to dissolve into violence, Israel is going to bear the brunt of it, and responsibility lies with the empty chair Obama. Plain and simple. trying to divert attention with a column quoting one of Romney’s advisers is just another in the tank for Obama MSM charade. Why not quite Der Spiegal, which today clearly laid the coming ME conflagration on inept Obama policy? Oh, not in the AJC! You are doing your part Bookman, to insure the continuing decline of readership of the AJC.
larry
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
Recent polls say that a vast majority of active military personnel will not vote Obama.
I’m sure they wish they were back in Iraq and starting to leave Afganistan.
getalife
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
robme/ ruin America’s fault.
JamVet
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
BOTH, note that rags produces ZERO empirical evidence and ZERO verifiable facts.
Never has, never will.
That is not his thing.
Opinions based on pompous pedantic generalizations and sweeping sophistry is…
Adam
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
Marty: I never asked you to prove it until you CHOSE to interject yourself into what Jay and I were discussing.
You know what? You’re right. I should have just said “Welcome back, Mystery Meat!”
I said you pretend your concerns were not addressed when Jay said:
but for the record, I’ve never criticized Bush for not preventing those attacks and have in fact defended him against that charge.
and then you said
You seem to have something to say to those who accuse Obama of it but you stand silent when it is stated about Bush.
He clearly said, BEFORE you said that, this was not the case. Surely you will at least admit that you, yourself, did not read and/or comprehend what he said to you?
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
Jm
On the other hand, if Romney loses (good chance of that), these events will only serve to ratchet up your vitriol and you will whine even more than you do know
I can’t wait
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
11:34 am
Well just like Clinton (Blackhawk down) they will make a movie showing Obama’s victory over terrorism at the Embassies.
getalife
September 14th, 2012
11:35 am
robme/ruin Blame America first.
larry
September 14th, 2012
11:35 am
” and not starting to leave Afganistan “.