Under President Romney, Mideast would be calm? Really?
Advisers to Mitt Romney on Thursday defended his sharp criticism of President Obama and said that the deadly protests sweeping the Middle East would not have happened if the Republican nominee were president.
“There’s a pretty compelling story that if you had a President Romney, you’d be in a different situation,” Richard Williamson, a top Romney foreign policy adviser, said in an interview. “For the first time since Jimmy Carter, we’ve had an American ambassador assassinated.”
Williamson added, “In Egypt and Libya and Yemen, again demonstrations — the respect for America has gone down, there’s not a sense of American resolve and we can’t even protect sovereign American property.”
I’m sorry: That has to be one of the more ridiculous statements I have seen in a long time. Who’s running this campaign, Honey Boo-Boo?
So we are to believe that Mitt Romney, by the sheer Mitt-normity of his Mitt-strength, would square his Mitt-jaw and single-handedly suppress not just decades, not just centuries, but millenia of seething anger and frustration among hundreds of millions of people in the Islamic world. Their anger and insecurities would all vanish, and the roiling seas would be made calm?
It’s a feat that Ronald Reagan couldn’t perform — the death of 241 Marines in their barracks in Lebanon and the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, with another 63 killed, bear clear testimony to his inadequacy. George W. Bush, the hard-bitten Texan, was such a wimp that Islamic terrorists dared to murder thousands of our fellow Americans here on our own soil and launch a dozen attacks against our embassies.
And Barack Obama? As Rush Limbaugh suggested yesterday, Obama is so weak that al Qaida offered up Osama bin Laden as a sacrifice to us, just to ensure that Obama would be re-elected.
Oh, but under the fearsome glare and resolve of the Mitt-y One, all would quake. Because all would know that if they dared to cross the line, His RomniPOTUS would … do what exactly? Smite them with a simple arch of his eyebrow?
P.T. Barnum once claimed that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. The Romney campaign is putting that observation to a very stern test.
– Jay Bookman
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larry
September 14th, 2012
9:29 am
We have a foreign policy crisis and what does Bookman’s choice do? He gets on his big ride and heads out to Vegas for a fund raiser, stops by Golden, CO for more money and lets his wacky staff back home handle the mess.
I mean its not like past presidents stayed at the White House during foreign policy crisises. I mean the last president to run for re-election didnt campaign while two wars were going on. Nahhhhhh, he stayed at the White House to monitor things , didnt he? Didnt campaign at all.
But………….but……………….
Mr. Snarky
September 14th, 2012
9:30 am
What’s that I smell? Yes, yes I think it is. Desperation.
Jay
September 14th, 2012
9:30 am
It is also rather telling to see folks rush to their computers to claim “Obama had warning and didn’t prevent” an attack in far-off, chaotic Libya while it is off-limits to raise the point that the Bush administration had warnings for months prior to 9/11.
Why is that, I wonder?
td
September 14th, 2012
9:30 am
Jay
September 14th, 2012
9:20 am
If Limbaugh says it, and if Daily Kos reports it, does that mean that Limbaugh didn’t really say it? Help me out here, I’m having trouble with your trail of logic.
And if you had actually read the transcripts then you would have noticed that Rush started this whole monologue as “My wild wild off the wall theory of the day” Now does this sound like entertainment or does sound like he is serious?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:30 am
JAY,
Forgot to mention that the ARROGANT one (generally a cover for insecurity or ineptitude) was going to bring the two sides together to get something done..
RESULT, he cast the first stone that led to the obstructionist tone in DC on his watch..
TaxPayer
September 14th, 2012
9:32 am
I suppose it would be asking too much of Stevie to just post the excerpts from Woodward’s book that he wishes to use to build up whatever case it is that he is trying to present.
the cat
September 14th, 2012
9:33 am
Um no stevie ray-that was mitch mcconnell. Vowing to make the president a one termer. You can’t rewrite history just as Jay admonished earlier.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
9:35 am
God the rubes here. It’s amazing. Fortunately though they really don’t seem to be consistent with the “mainstream of US society’ that you’re always talking about Jay.
the cat
September 14th, 2012
9:35 am
Trying to get the weather report yesterday, I heard hannity being all hurt fee fees because Romenoy chose to give an interview to George S. rather than him. Too funny.
larry
September 14th, 2012
9:35 am
RESULT, he cast the first stone that led to the obstructionist tone in DC on his watch..
Right………… the first night of his administration , he had a cabinet meeting and decided not to work with Republicans on anything so he could win the White House in 2012.
Not that certain leaders of an opposing political party did that on Jan. 20, 2009.
Aquagirl
September 14th, 2012
9:35 am
My company is doing close to what the C-Bees do.
Except for y’know, actually being IN THE MILITARY.
Overseas contractors are free at any time to say “nope, not doing that.” They might not get paid, I guess a company might get sued in civil court, at most. But nobody will imprison or hang you if you refuse to install some wiring.
If you want kudos for your overpaid contractors, fish for it elsewhere.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:36 am
JAY,
Your response to my response is typical of one who has nothing to offer in rebuttal….if any GOP were running on your surrogate mothers record of killing bin laden and what ever else you can contrive in his favor, you’d be screaming this opposite tone.
At some point, your taking of every issue and thinking many of us care what Romney would do is BS and irrelevant…conjecture as a defense is beneath you JAY.
Finally, yes it is likely that BO had similar nebulous information that in either case, didn’t actually pinpoint the exact means, time or place in a vast area that could have been defended…
Adam
September 14th, 2012
9:37 am
Jay: If Limbaugh says it, and if Daily Kos reports it, does that mean that Limbaugh didn’t really say it?
Yes. Until a conservative website points out that part of his transcript and distills it as “Osama bin Laden was sacrificed so Obama could win” then it didn’t happen.
I wish I were joking, but they DO think like that. Probably because deep down, they know their own sources of information make stuff up OR because they are butthurt that their sources of information make stuff up and people call them on it.
Thomas
September 14th, 2012
9:38 am
Let’s see- a little recap of the week
We learned that freedom of speech is only allowed if approved by the liberals. I seem to remember the ol’ crucifix in urine “freedom of speech” being funded by the gov’t. Shockingly no diplomats were murdered and no towers fell. Nevertheless Jay enables the ignorant rants of “knuckle draggers” so therefore he must enjoy the term. Right? If you don’t condemn it you must approve it if you are in control of the blog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
We then followed with the greatly anticipated QEIII as it will really work this time. For all you un and underemployed bloggers out there please do hold your breath and Jay, be ready to administer CPR.
John Wooden said it best “never mistake activity for achievement”- or in this case expense with investment.
How about a little travelin’ music from R. Kelly “I believe I can fly”
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
9:38 am
Jay “Why is that, I wonder”
Because the disgrace to which that refers comes back in forums like this, in repressed form.
This forum, or parts of it anyway, is like the id of the American Bircher right.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 14th, 2012
9:39 am
Well, I see a bunch of people are going to sue NYC over this ban on selling big drinks. And I don’t blame them. We got a Constitutional Right to walk around carrying a gallon of Coke in a foam cup.
And just think of all the Private Innerprize this ban is stifling. A whole bunch of Norman Einsteens make their living off of this big drink thing (”Look, Norm. This will hold a half gallon–easy. And if we taper it down here it can fit in a cup holder. Heck, there’s even room to put in a little urinal here on the side.”)
Anyway, have a good Friday everybody. I hope somebody is digging up some Merle Travis for tonight.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
9:40 am
Jay: It is also rather telling to see folks rush to their computers to claim “Obama had warning and didn’t prevent” an attack in far-off, chaotic Libya while it is off-limits to raise the point that the Bush administration had warnings for months prior to 9/11.
Why is that, I wonder?
Butthurt. They’re butthurt. They want to find every possible way to parallel the attacks on Bush from the left, on Obama from the right. They think they can win by doing that. They think they can prove “both sides do it” and therefore their side doesn’t suck after all.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
9:41 am
Thomas 9:36 Oh FFS are you kidding me? You’re dredging up that old song and dance about the crucifix from 20 years ago? Unbelievable.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:42 am
LARRY,
In fact I think it was before or shortly after his inauguration…goes like this..
Cantor et al approached him with a proposal that would reduce the lowest two tax brackets, make unemployment tax free…and several other branches of the olive in hopes of benefitting from this new spirit of cooperation….BO”s response was that of a junior high schooler….”get over it….we won…”
That set the tone..in addition to other targeted embarrasements of GOP leadership by mischaracterization, and outright lies to the press…
TaxPayer
September 14th, 2012
9:42 am
Poor Stevie Ray. He seems to be ignoring the jokers to his right more often than not while simultaneously failing to support his claims of leftist clowns everywhere he looks.
Ray Tardinski
September 14th, 2012
9:42 am
Jay – shouldn’t you be writing an apology to the mu-slimes and their pedophile prophet about how we as american’s don’t embrace free-speech and it was the movie producers fault? (not the fact their religious-cult was built upon violence)
And really get an updated pic of yourself – you know one where you are about 10 years older and 50 lbs heavier – twit.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
9:42 am
Google “Obama’s Katrina.” It was Obama’s fault the oil spill happened AND he should have gone down there and plugged it himself. Despite the fact that Romney would likely NOT make the case that a very clear arm of the Federal Government, the U.S. Coast Guard, was on the scene from day one. Somehow, because they were doing something good, they are not “part of the administration” in the same way an Embassy is.
Bernie
September 14th, 2012
9:43 am
If Mitt is allowed at the Helm in Washington,DC the entire world would be flames.
Mitt is ‘THE DESTROYER”. That is what he has done all of his life. This is how Mitt has made his untold amounts of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, destroying companies that produce things, Towns,Communities and even Families.
Mitt just wants to expand his specialized cause to an international level now. Now Mitt envisions the Destruction of Nations,Countries, Cities, even entire group of peoples and their Religion.
Listen closely to what he says. He does not mince his words. His Goal is to reek havoc and destruction, where ever he goes.
There is only one OTHER, who have these same qualities and desires that single handily produce such pain and misery on a wide scale……..We ALL know who that is.
Fred ™
September 14th, 2012
9:43 am
skydog
September 14th, 2012
9:28 am
I don`t know if there is a difference Fred.
Everybody there, is there for profit.
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Are you kidding me? People join our military for PROFIT? I can see you were never a soldier or even really knew any.
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
9:44 am
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
9:21 am
Marty Huggins’
September 14th, 2012
9:14 am
Try reading the linked article.
That memo was from the Marine Corps.
Are you calling them liars?
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Well the argument could be made that the military industrial system has indeed been untruthful with the American public before.
I concede that more than one report has come out issuing a statement from the pentagon that the report was false.
It’s why you gotta ask these questions.
skydog
September 14th, 2012
9:44 am
If you want kudos for your overpaid contractors, fish for it elsewhere.
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I`m not looking for kudos. Just letting you know how your money is being spent. If you want to play war, then hire enough troops to do the job. You are paying 10 times the going rate by not having enough military for your wars.
Goldie
September 14th, 2012
9:45 am
“Under Romney we’ll be at war with Iran, is that what everyone wants?”
Just the Cons, JPS — and that’s about 28% of the Repub Party… if Mitt somehow buys his way into the White House, we’ll all doomed!
larry
September 14th, 2012
9:46 am
Under his vast foreign policy expertise and his staff’s great foreign policy research, Mr. Romney said he would promise to name the country a currency manipulator when if elected. Never mind the fact that he made considerable wealth doing business with them. Ooooooops !!
China’s official Xinhua news agency said Mitt Romney’s attacks on China are foolish and hypocritical.
“It is rather ironic that a considerable portion of this China-battering politician’s wealth was actually obtained by doing business with Chinese companies before he entered politics,” Xinhua wrote.
I normally don’t pay to much attention to their news, but this was funny.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/14/us-usa-campaign-romney-china-idUSBRE88D09G20120914
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:48 am
THE CAT,
It was acually 3 days after inauguration when he summoned congressional leadership to his office…Cantor tabled plan that reduces lowest two tax brackets, tax deduction of 20% on small business, no tax increases for stimulus, tax free unemployment benefits and homebuyers credit of $7500 for those putting down at least 20%…
Obamas exact words..”Eric there is nothing too crazy here…” finally, “Elections has consequences Eric..and I won…” “so on that I trump you..”
The Price of Politics page 25-27…Bob Woodward.. I guess now according to Jay his a hack…
Goldie
September 14th, 2012
9:48 am
“They think they can prove “both sides do it” ”
Adam — it’s kinda like listening to kids in Kindergarten when we all said “I know you are, but what am I!”
td
September 14th, 2012
9:49 am
Rush wrote this after his show:
“We’re watching the disintegration of two institutions right in front of our eyes, and we’re all wondering, are we the only ones who see it? We’re watching the disintegration of a presidency. We are looking at blatant, uncompromised incompetence. And we are witnessing corruption of another institution, the so-called mainstream media. They continue to descend into depths they’re not even aware of. “
Fred ™
September 14th, 2012
9:49 am
Aquagirl
September 14th, 2012
9:35 am
My company is doing close to what the C-Bees do.
Except for y’know, actually being IN THE MILITARY.
Overseas contractors are free at any time to say “nope, not doing that.” They might not get paid, I guess a company might get sued in civil court, at most. But nobody will imprison or hang you if you refuse to install some wiring.
If you want kudos for your overpaid contractors, fish for it elsewhere.
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Damn. Aquagirl you are on a ROLL today. I’m gonna stay out of your way lol. That’s your second knockout.
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
9:49 am
Marty Huggins’
September 14th, 2012
9:44 am
“Well the argument could be made that the military industrial system has indeed been untruthful with the American public before.”
Make that argument or drop this and admit it’s a red herring.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:50 am
TAXPAYER,
Try something out of the box for you and your betheren blue sheep (mindlessly passing the time in the grasslands awaaaaaaaaayyyy) and read some of the books that counter all your arguments for your idol….May expand your mind and help sharpen your defense of your surrogate mother..
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
9:51 am
Jay
September 14th, 2012
9:30 am
And there are those silent about the possibility that there was knowledge of this attack prior to the attack happening were some of the loudest and still are some I’d the loudest about the Bush admin having advanced warning.
I wonder why that is?
You still silent on your unneeded but willful lie, you know the same type you have written entire pieces about before because others dared to do what you do?
Aquagirl
September 14th, 2012
9:51 am
If you want to play war, then hire enough troops to do the job.
I encourage the Armchair Chickenhawks every chance I get, yet every day they’re still here instead of at the nearest enlistment station. If your point was that wars via hired contractors aren’t a good idea, I agree and apologize for misunderstanding your point.
The wingnuts here think we should have had thousands of Marines running left,right, and sideways while never stopping to consider just how many Marines we have available for potential threats. I wish they’d go take some Viagra if they feel they aren’t manly enough instead of insisting someone else go die for their feelings of shrinkage.
Fred ™
September 14th, 2012
9:51 am
skydog
September 14th, 2012
9:44 am
If you want kudos for your overpaid contractors, fish for it elsewhere.
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I`m not looking for kudos. Just letting you know how your money is being spent. If you want to play war, then hire enough troops to do the job. You are paying 10 times the going rate by not having enough military for your wars.
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You obviously really have no clue as to the *job* of the military ESPECIALLY the CB’s.
Sagegirl
September 14th, 2012
9:51 am
In an interview with George Stephanopoulos, Romney defined middle income as $200,000 to $250,000 a year.
Wow!
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-romney-debates-obama-things-arent-true-105805916–abc-news-politics.html
Jay
September 14th, 2012
9:52 am
Marty, I didn’t understand your last paragraph, but for the record, I’ve never criticized Bush for not preventing those attacks and have in fact defended him against that charge.
larry
September 14th, 2012
9:52 am
Actually, it wasn’t to Eric Canter, it was to Senator John Kyl , Steve………….
The top congressional leaders from both parties gathered at the White House for a working discussion over the shape and size of President Barack Obama’s economic stimulus plan. The meeting was designed to promote bipartisanship.
But Obama showed that in an ideological debate, he’s not averse to using a jab.
Challenged by one Republican senator over the contents of the package, the new president, according to participants, replied: “I won.”
The statement was prompted by Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona , who challenged the president and the Democratic leaders over the balance between the package’s spending and tax cuts, bringing up the traditional Republican notion that a tax credit for people who do not earn enough to pay income taxes is not a tax cut but a government check.
Obama noted that such workers pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, property taxes and sales taxes. The issue was widely debated during the presidential campaign, when Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, challenged Obama’s tax plan as “welfare.”
With those two words — “I won” — the Democratic president let the Republicans know that debate has been put to rest Nov. 4 .
Adam
September 14th, 2012
9:52 am
The same people who say that militant Islam means all Muslims have a religion of violence, citing quotes from their holy book, fail to acknowledge the same for Christianity both in theocracies, history, and the Bible.
b-troll
September 14th, 2012
9:53 am
Here are the brass tacks: Obama is an appeaser on Iran
Romney is not. Do you want a nuclear armed Iran or not? I don’t.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
9:53 am
Ahhhh so the mask comes off (not that it was much of a mask).
Michell Bachmann reveals what the American right REALLY thinks of the so-called Arab Spring in saying that at least Mubarek kept the Muslim Brotherhood at arm’s length.
Just keep propping up corrupt dictators and everything will be alright.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:53 am
BERNIE/LARRY
If Romney had this….he would do that…..blah blah blah….defending your surrogate mother by supposing what another may do if elected is not even a valid argument for our current situation…
No body is better off domestically or abroad and all you sheep want to posit is that “things will be so much worse if we are without Obama….
Weak cheese.
skydog
September 14th, 2012
9:54 am
Are you kidding me? People join our military for PROFIT? I can see you were never a soldier or even really knew any.
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No, I chose pipe fitter helper when the options came up. I did know one soldier in 1969. He didn`t come back.
Don`t get me wrong, I know we need a military and cops, but I don`t cross social paths with either very much. I have a low tolerance for bullets.
the cat
September 14th, 2012
9:54 am
Stevie Ray-do you know Woodward’s book has already been discredited and deemed fiction? If you were foolish enough to pay money for that then may I direct you to high school drop out Karen Handel’s novel? book publishers have to make a living too.
b-troll
September 14th, 2012
9:55 am
“and have in fact defended him against that charge.”
Yes, but that’s rather silly. Only the seriously uninformed weren’t aware that there were warnings floating around out there before 9/11.
That said, the nature of government is: do nothing…. until there’s a crisis.
larry
September 14th, 2012
9:55 am
I forgot to add , that was from an article in the WSJ……………..
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obama-to-gop-i-won/
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
9:55 am
Stevie Ray:
“read some of the books that counter all your arguments for your idol….”
I’ll take you up on that. Read this and come back with a three page book report and I’ll be happy to read anything you have to offer.
Thomas
September 14th, 2012
9:55 am
Welcome to the Occupation
“You’re dredging up that old song and dance about the crucifix from 20 years ago? Unbelievable”
OK- we now learned something else- relevant means it had to have happened yesterday. If it weren’t so sad it would be funny. What was the name of the crack pot who laid out the theory of relativity- oh yeah- it is not relevant anymore.
Anyway- toodles to the occupiers- may your life be filled with handouts. Back to working and hiring folks for the rest of us.
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
9:56 am
East Lake Ira
September 14th, 2012
9:49 am
No red herring!
At the time I asked the question it was that a question! I had seen reports but nothing concrete.
Was weary of the article you posted, mainly because of the over the top partisan title.
Apologies for asking a question about rumors that were being reported but not confirmed!
Geez so sensitive.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
9:56 am
Jm
And Romney told you this?
Verbal Kint
September 14th, 2012
9:56 am
When Obama says that Egypt is not an ally or an enemy and then HIS State Department has to clarify, THAT is a blunder and says that the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. Inconsistency and sends a mixed message.
If Obama wanted to be tough with Egypt, why not pick up the phone and tell Morsi himself instead of blabbing it in the press? Instead, we have clarifications that make the US look indecisive.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
9:57 am
Thomas: “Back to working and hiring folks for the rest of us.”
I really hate it when people sign off with that.
Why do people think it’s something to be proud of that you’re “being productive”.
You’re being way too obedient and docile. Instead of “getting back to work” you ought to be ORGANIZING.
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
9:57 am
“Advisers to Mitt Romney on Thursday defended his sharp criticism of President Obama and said that the deadly protests sweeping the Middle East would not have happened if the Republican nominee were president”
But it did happen under the annoited one!
bman
September 14th, 2012
9:57 am
Romney and his advisors should have said nothing.
At the end of the day, we still have an economy in the toilet, high unemployment, continuing exobomic data that is terrible, a murdered ambassador, a torched embassy, trouble around the world with economies, unrest in the middle east, and a President who accepts no blame for anything.
As bad as it all is, it would be even worse under Romney. That is, if, you subscribe to the Obama newsletter.
Obama/Biden 2012
Expect Less!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:58 am
TAXPAYER,
I don’t think I can access and copy the text and paste here…BTW, the same details are included in other books that have been released since mid-August….
Even Jay told me last week that Miniter was a hack and that he’d put more credence into these items if Woodward put them forth…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
9:58 am
BMAN,
Classic bumper sticker…
Adam
September 14th, 2012
9:58 am
b-troll: Here are the brass tacks: Obama is an appeaser on Iran
Ask Iran if this describes what the U.S. is doing with them:
Appeasement is a diplomatic policy aimed at avoiding war by making concessions to an aggressor.
NO concessions are being made with Iran. No one is appeasing them. Read and Learn.
TN_Realist
September 14th, 2012
9:59 am
@ b-troll and how do you suggest that be accomplished?
Jm
September 14th, 2012
10:00 am
I know apple likes developing premium high quality products
But they need a lower priced alternative
Or they’re going to get their clock cleaned by Samsung at some point
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
10:00 am
Verbal Kint: “When Obama says that Egypt is not an ally or an enemy and then HIS State Department has to clarify, THAT is a blunder and says that the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. Inconsistency and sends a mixed message.”
Why is a ‘mixed’ message necessarily a bad or ineffective one? And why does it necessarily mean the left hand doesn’t know what right hand is doing? Power always by definition has multiple ‘arms’ and it’s not unusual for one to say one thing and the other something else. It’s the rule.
larry
September 14th, 2012
10:01 am
No body is better off domestically or abroad and all you sheep want to posit is that “things will be so much worse if we are without Obama….
So putting an economic system that led to the worse economic collapse in 70 years and a foreign policy that will lead to war , will make things better ? And also , nevermind the fact that we have a prime minister of a foreign country trying to influence an election so that he can influence our foreign policy. And you think things will be better ?
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
10:01 am
Well the KKK is suing Ga and a few others for violating their constitutional rights. I guess the NAACP should storm the embassy and kill three or four. That would teach them. It works for the islam.
kayaker 71
September 14th, 2012
10:01 am
They don’t fear us. They don’t fear the consequences of attacking something American. They really have no reason to. We will “keep a close eye on developments”& “consult with our allies” before this whole thing fades away and all but the families of those killed are the only ones that remember. Same thing with that border patrol guy that the Mexicans killed. If they don’t fear you, they will keep doing it. Reagan took out Gaddafi”s family and we didn’t hear from him for years. The Muslim Brotherhood is organized, well funded, dedicated and devoted to a clear bunch of goals. They also respect nothing but power and the ability to use it. They exploit weakness in everyone and thrive on intimidation of others. That’s just the way they operate worldwide. Solution?
Evacuate all American citizens in Libya and bring them home. Notify that acting president of Libya that in six days, there will be an American airstrike on the most sacred of their buildings, allowing the Libyans to clear them before they are destroyed. Message is that if you f**k with the wrong infidel, you pay the price. Call this prick’s bluff. He knew and sanctioned every move that these jokers made. You don’t do anything in a Muslim controlled country without those in control giving the OK. All of this tripe about the Libyans being our friends just a bunch of crap. They are supreme opportunists dead set on changing a country to fit their own needs, nothing else. And Bozo doesn’t have a clue.
Rightwing Troll
September 14th, 2012
10:02 am
“Would Romney being POTUS stop the protests and occasional attacks? No. But there is no doubt things would be better than under Obama.”
Really?
Who let OBL ride out of Tora Bora on a donkey? Who green flagged putting two bullets in OBL’s head?
As fake, plastic and flip floppy as Mittens is, I don’t think his presidency would be any more “respected” or feared than Obama’s is, or W’s was, or Slick Willy, et al…
John Birch
September 14th, 2012
10:02 am
Not only will he straighten out the ME, we’ll actually have more people working after he’s been POTUS for almost four years instead of less like we have with Obama.
TaxPayer
September 14th, 2012
10:02 am
Stevie Ray,
How about posting some of Obama’s exact sentences rather than a sequence of exact words, if you follow my drift.
Brosephus™
September 14th, 2012
10:02 am
Jay @ 9:52 Marty, I didn’t understand your last paragraph, but for the record, I’ve never criticized Bush for not preventing those attacks and have in fact defended him against that charge.
And when has any of your detractors ever let truth supercede their version of reality when they want to rant about you?
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
10:02 am
Jay
September 14th, 2012
9:52 am
But there are many on your blog that do just that.
You seem to have something to say to those who accuse Obama of it but you stand silent when it is stated about Bush.
My last paragraph refers to lying in an earlier post about Romney and his feelings towards Bin Laden.
You have made the claim several times and as you spewed it in an earlier post it is false and I feel you are informed enough to know it is false.
Go back to the last page if you wish to see it again.
You wrote an entire article about the GOP taking the you didn’t built that quote out of context.
Then you go and do the exact same thing to Romney on a quote.
Why is it ok for one side to lie but not the other.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
10:03 am
LARRY,
Different discussion with KYL…the meeting with Cantor was 3 days after inauguration and the “we won” phrase was used in the face of a idealogically balanced proposal and this response as well as other things during his first few months in office, including the stimulus debate left the GOP with the impression that after all the excitement surrounding BO’s alledged bi-partisan agenda that both sides bought into….
bookman parrot
September 14th, 2012
10:04 am
Jay, you sarcastic pile!!!
TaxPayer
September 14th, 2012
10:04 am
Stevie Ray,
If you turn around and face the other direction, you could call those jokers to your right, clowns to your left and tell us a little about them too.
Patrick
September 14th, 2012
10:04 am
According to Jim Galloway, Saxby Chambliss weighed in on Romney’s statement and here is what he had to say:
”Look, we are less than 60 days out from the election of the next president…This is a heated campaign, and I think it is incumbent upon anybody that wants to be commander-in-chief to speak on matters of national security when times of emergency arise. That’s exactly what Governor Romney did. I won’t even go into what he said, because that part of it is immaterial. The fact is that he gave a response, and his response was very strong.”
Translation– “When anything hits the fan, make a big, bold, inflamatory statement as soon as possible. Don’t wait for any facts to influence said statement”.
Nice.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:05 am
You seem to have something to say to those who accuse Obama of it but you stand silent when it is stated about Bush.
You are in Stage 4 of Obsfuscation Bullying. You have decided to pretend that your concern or charge or “fact” was never addressed, and will continually insist that it be addressed, no matter how many times it is, in fact, addressed.
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
10:05 am
What will the liberals gain if Obama remains in office? What lures the liberals to the Obama bench? I can not find that info anywhere. I looked under jobs, foreign policy, uniting the country, and several other places. I can not find anything. Can any of you help me?
Aquagirl
September 14th, 2012
10:06 am
They don’t fear us. They don’t fear the consequences of attacking something American. They really have no reason to.
Yes, people who will fly planes into solid objects at 500MPH are not particularly afraid of bullets. Duh.
Although Mitt’s hairgel is potentially scarier than a gruesome death, so maybe you wingnuts are on to something here.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:07 am
I won’t even go into what he said, because that part of it is immaterial
Fred ™
September 14th, 2012
10:07 am
Don`t get me wrong, I know we need a military and cops, but I don`t cross social paths with either very much. I have a low tolerance for bullets.
Well you know THIS GUY was a soldier, I’ll bet you would have given your left nut to hang out with him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE3FAY-NOiU&feature=related
This guy (singer) was also a soldier. If you look at one of his tat’s it’s his unit from Fort Hood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbm6GXllBiw
Mick
September 14th, 2012
10:07 am
yaker
You’ve been watching too many fantasy movies, reality is a bit more sober…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
10:08 am
EAST LAKE,
Thanks for the suggestion…I’ve read books on both sides about which media is more biased toward whom and I find such mixed BS from both sides that I can’t make sense of any of it…seems the liberal press (i think 70% or so in polls leaned liberal) is frustrated by viewership of FOX that they will never achieved and the right is frustrated by the major networks, a majority of major newspapers and the left leaning MSNBC’s..
When the media became news, our ability to get objective info with which to make up our own minds vanished…people generally have their minds made up who they like and show their work with the news outlet leaning that direction..
Mick
September 14th, 2012
10:09 am
willie
I’d say its because he is a democrat and mostly because he’s not romney…
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
10:09 am
Patrick
Shouldn’t be any surprise about ole Saxby. He has no shame in regards to what he say to win a campaign.
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
10:11 am
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:05 am
It would be wise to read all of the post leading up to something.
Jay asked a question! It was in response to Jays response to my answer in which proclaimed himself to not attack Bush for having prior knowledge of the attacks on 911
Goldie
September 14th, 2012
10:11 am
I get the sense today that the Cons are exuberant over the fact that 4 Americans from the State Dept. were killed this week, and Cairo is rioting — all so’s they can try to score some political points for Mitt. How very sad for America!
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:11 am
Williebkind: What will the liberals gain if Obama remains in office?
I can’t speak for liberals, but I know the COUNTRY will gain much needed regulations on health insurance companies, bare minimum requirements for health plans, a leader that won’t go to war every time something stirs the pot, who won’t meet with a world leader who tries to tell him and the U.S. what to do publicly until that world leader has a chance to cool off, a continued respect from other western cultures that our populace is not, in fact, still majority stupid, abortions as needed and as wanted regardless of how that hurts religious people’s feelings, a chairman of the Federal Reserve who actually tries to do his job properly, women paying the same for a health insurance plan as men, etc etc etc.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
10:13 am
TAXPAYER,
Absolutely I can….I completely think the GOP is cro-magna in their religious zealotcy (is that a word?) and desire to deny practical rights to gays and women…they have nothing creative to posit, and they are full of the same rhetoric and corrupted by the same system as the left…..in fact, its the system that is the 800 lb gorilla which makes it impossible, shy of a constitutional convention, to change…until that happens I don’t think it matters diddly who is in WH…
Goldie
September 14th, 2012
10:13 am
“What will the liberals gain if Obama remains in office? ”
Mostly that we will not be partying like it’s 1959!
Rightwing Troll
September 14th, 2012
10:14 am
“What will the liberals gain if Obama remains in office? What lures the liberals to the Obama bench?”
For me, it’s more about not repeating the 2000-2008 years, more about not wanting to go through the losses again, not about having anything to gain.
They BOTH suck
September 14th, 2012
10:15 am
“What will the liberals gain if Obama remains in office? ”
Mostly that we will not be partying like it’s 1959!
______________________________________________
CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marty Huggins'
September 14th, 2012
10:15 am
Goldie
September 14th, 2012
10:11 am
How sad for you, if that’s what you think about your fellow Americans.
Goldie
September 14th, 2012
10:15 am
“Although Mitt’s hairgel is potentially scarier than a gruesome death”
LOL — Mitt really lays that gel on thick, Aqua — gruesome indeed!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
10:16 am
GOLDIE,
Any of those suggesting the GOP is happy about the deaths of embassy staff is nothing but pure drama…Romney should have waited to speak and he didn’t…that will be forgotten but these deaths and upon who’s watch they occurred with shine forever in BO’s legacy….
Adam
September 14th, 2012
10:16 am
Marty: Jay asked a question! It was in response to Jays response to my answer in which proclaimed himself to not attack Bush for having prior knowledge of the attacks on 911
In which he ALSO said he has defended Bush against those charges. Yet you claim he does no such thing for anyone on the right. Ever. In fact, he has defended people on the right as a major point of his blog posts before, and he has also attacked Democrats as a major point of his blog posts before.
Not that it should really matter. One does not to be seen as even handed in a world where one side really IS that much worse than the other. “Liberal media” is nothing more than a “shut up unless you’re going to take my side” argument. So, thanks but no thanks. People don’t avoid telling the truth just because it makes you uncomfortable. And no one ever truly gains credibility just by being even handed or loses it for placing the blame where it belongs.
This is not a “both sides do it” thing. This is an international incident that has nothing to do with R vs. D.
kayaker 71
September 14th, 2012
10:17 am
We all know that sometime in the future, we will have to confront the very thing that is gnawing at our security. We don’t fly those F-16s up and down our coasts to protect ourselves from Episcopalians. This dates clear back to before Reagan. Do you think for one minute that these goons would have killed the Russian ambassador to Libya and two Russian soldiers? Benghazi would have turned into a glass bowl. Review the You Tube tape of the Russians catching up with those Somali pirates who attacked a Russian ship. The Russians shelled their mother ship, killing all aboard and then did the same to the ones that they captured. Result? No more Russian ships have been bothered. They don’t fear us. Never have.
Williebkind
September 14th, 2012
10:17 am
Goldie:
“I get the word today from the DNC today to say that the Cons are exuberant over the fact that 4 Americans from the State Dept. were killed this week, and Cairo is rioting”
There I fixed you obfuscatory!
HDB
September 14th, 2012
10:18 am
b-troll
September 14th, 2012
9:53 am
Here are the brass tacks: Obama is an appeaser on Iran
Romney is not. Do you want a nuclear armed Iran or not? I don’t.”
If it happens….you have to blame the US and Great Britain for it… for putting the Shah in power (Eisenhower and the CIA)….then the US alone for putting Saddam Hussein in power as the buffer(Ronald Reagan)…then REMOVING Saddam (George HW/George W Bush) to empower Iran as a rogue state!!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 14th, 2012
10:18 am
THEYBOTHSUCK,
I can’t think of any modern day politician who won’t say anything to get elected..more examples than not wouldn’t you agree?
I think we share the same mindset relative to our best of the worse sort of choice we get every 4 years…
Welcome to the Occupation
September 14th, 2012
10:19 am
““What will the liberals gain if Obama remains in office? What lures the liberals to the Obama bench?”
Not being a liberal, I am just speculating, but what doesn’t lure them to the Obama bench? He is a very shiny object for them. He gives them a vehicle to redeem deeply rooted feelings of guilt. Though he’s a little stiff, he’s got a great smile and is able to cite just the right popular culture references to keep his supporters charmed. And he’s not a bad politician after all. He’s no Reagan, but he’s not an entirely unskilled man at the ways of wooing the masses, and outright propaganda. (See Michael Lewis, for ex.)
DebbieDoRight - A Con Is Only Patriotic When Another Con Is President...
September 14th, 2012
10:19 am
Meanwhile, we learn that the State Dept and Intelligence had advance warning of these attacks on the consulates and the adminstration did…..what for it………nothing.
Sigh…………….
This “unnamed sources” bull came from the British Newspaper the Independent. Tony Blair said of the Indepedent,” In a 12 June 2007 speech British Prime Minister Tony Blair called The Independent a “viewspaper”, saying it “was started as an antidote to the idea of journalism as views not news. That was why it was called the Independent. Today it is avowedly a viewspaper not merely a newspaper”.
In 2007, Alan Rusbridger, editor of The Guardian, said of The Independent: “The emphasis on views, not news, means that the reporting is rather thin, and it loses impact on the front page the more you do that.
IOW – The Independent may be the American National Enquirer…….