Fed Reserve condemned for daring to seek job growth
Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke today announced another round of quantitative easing, the technical term for injecting more capital into the economy to lower interest rates and encourage growth.
The decision was widely expected, and before it was announced Republican members of Congress were already condemning it as a politically motivated effort to help the re-election bid of Barack Obama.
“It really is interesting that it is happening right now before an election,” said Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho). “It is going to sow some growth in the economy, and the Obama administration is going to claim credit.”
“I am shocked, just shocked, that politics are going on in this city!” Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) said sarcastically.
“They are the ones who always say they want to remain independent. So they should consider, just how independent are they when they come out, only 50 days before the election, with this?” said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).
The Fed has taken similar action twice before, in part to offset the refusal by Congress to inject more money into the economy through stimulus. “The Committee is concerned that, without further policy accommodation, economic growth might not be strong enough to generate sustained improvement in labor market conditions,” the official announcement read.
The reaction of GOP members of Congress is revealing, isn’t it? They acknowledge that the move is likely to put more Americans into jobs. But they nonetheless oppose it, condemning it as politically motivated, because they fear those steps might help President Obama.
Avoiding the second outcome is more important than achieving the first. Such is the state of patriotism.
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getalife
September 13th, 2012
10:19 pm
The latest drudge headline lie is desperate.
“According to senior diplomatic sources”
No names but the Intell committee said there was no warning.
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:19 pm
@jm
If a leg is missing out of the stool, does that imply the government has fallen?
They BOTH suck
September 13th, 2012
10:20 pm
td
I guess that is true, but a quick google will reveal numerous lies, characterizations, half truths, hyperbole……………. by your hero Michelle Malkin
just sayn………. the facts
To say that President’s personally at fault without knowing any more than you and I shows that she is a hack……………..
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
10:20 pm
Jm- Did obama’s phone ring at 3am but he just kept sleeping with a DND sign up?
If Romney hadn’t issued his statement, they would have just chalked this one as another “workplace accident” and called it a day.
Calling this a terrorist action will only make them angry and want to kill us….
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:20 pm
Jackie
Oops
“According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and “lockdown”, under which movement is severely restricted.”
Such is the state of patriotism...
September 13th, 2012
10:21 pm
“…From Michelle Obama’s pronouncement that she was never proud of her country until her husband won the nomination to Obama’s declaration that America is no more exceptional than any other country in the world, a sense of pride in being an American is missing from the White House these days. A man who is proud to be an American would not traverse the globe apologizing for America’s transgressions. A leader with love of country would not announce his intent to “fundamentally transform” America rather than pursue an agenda of furthering the good the country has brought to the world. And a patriotic American would no less sit in the pews of a hate-spewing reverend who cries out “God damn America” and “America’s chickens are coming home to roost” after the tragedies of 9/11 than he would bow to a Saudi king, hug Islamist Turkish Prime Minister Erdoğan, and embrace dictator Hugo Chávez…”
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/obamas_patriotism.html#ixzz26PHOl7M5
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
10:22 pm
JKL2 – I knowhow ya’ll cons LOVE to blame Obama for not being all knowing, all seeing, and everywhere all the time, but The State Department is ran by Clinton.
Remember the Shirley Sherrod scandal? Remember the cons condemning OBAMA for somethng that Sherrod supposedly said a YEAR before Obama took office?
Remember how silly ya’ll looked then? Well, maybe its time to look back in that mirror….. Just saying….
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:24 pm
@jm
You quoted but failed to cite your sources.
Did you get that from Druge? Credible?
They BOTH suck
September 13th, 2012
10:24 pm
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow
td: keep working those “polls” for all the underlying reasons as to why they are incorrect.
Maybe Dick “McCain is going to walk away with this election” Morris can assist you
TaxPayer
September 13th, 2012
10:25 pm
Dang! With the economy continuing to get better, Republicans are really struggling. Too bad their presidential candidate is such a lost cause. What a liar Mitt has shown himself to be. And a real scum to boot given his baseless attacks against Obama at a time when he should have been showing a little sympathy for those that lost their lives. Mitt is as pathetic as your typical Republican. Nothing new there.
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:25 pm
Jackie
It’s called the independent, a newspaper in the UK unaffiliated with drudge
Get a clue
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:27 pm
Jackie is a troll, but I’ll briefly entertain her
Here ya go
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:27 pm
@jm
The Independent is considered “a tabloid in compact format.”
How do you explain the inference of being like the National Inquirer?
You have the floor.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
10:27 pm
Would it be wrong to suggest that Mitt Romney has changed his mind about running for president and is now sandbagging his own campaign?
Heh, heh, heh.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
September 13th, 2012
10:27 pm
Tax-
I guess you missed or didn’t understand the action of the Fed today. Everything they are doing is in response to a stalling economy.
Good night all you crazy cats. Debbie don’t get another “vacation”
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
10:28 pm
scout- Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it) : Keep your headlights off !
And interior lights on. If your windshield gets hit with a green laser you better stop immediately or one is coming thru your radiator. (hope they don’t “miss” high)
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
10:28 pm
“”I did a lot of soul searching before, during, and especially after my tour. One result of that search was my solid identification with the Democratic Party.”
You were drafted into service during the Vietnam War (I won’t ask if you actually fought) and then identified solidly with the Democratic Party? Are you kidding me??? I guess you did not learn, and have not since, that LBJ ran on a promise that he would not get us into war like his “war mongering” opponent Goldwater with the likes of the infamous Daisy advertisement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_%28advertisement%29
But then plunged us headlong into the most dishonorable waste of young, American lives this country has ever known – 57,000 dead in total. LBJ was as close to a devil as we may have ever had in the Oval Office. Read a biography or two of his life and see what I mean. There was a reason that he, as an incumbent, did NOT run for re-election in 1968 (like most presidents have), but I guess that was lost on you somehow in your “solid identification with the Democratic Party” (Even Carter and GWB ran a second time).
My father tells a joke about LBJ’s “broken promise” (or should I say responsibility for the deaths of tens of thousands?). A lot of the guys he worked with were Democrats and told him that if he voted for Goldwater, we’d be sunk into a large scale war. A few years later he told them that they were right – he voted for Goldwater and just what they predicted occurred.
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:29 pm
@jm
You must have looked in the mirror to make such a judgment.
Secondly, I am not a female; does that help you trot out more caustic remarks?
td
September 13th, 2012
10:30 pm
They BOTH suck
September 13th, 2012
10:20 pm
td
I guess that is true, but a quick google will reveal numerous lies, characterizations, half truths, hyperbole……………. by your hero Michelle Malkin
And just who is making these accusations? Huffpost, media matters, NY times and Washtington post, yea sources I really believe, Not. They are the true sources of lies, half truths and hyperbole.
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
10:30 pm
jamvet- And you sidestepped the Jewish part of that question
obama is doing a REALLY good job of fixing that himself….
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
10:30 pm
Goodnight Steve!
I guess I’ll say goodnight myself. Ya’ll have a good one….
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:31 pm
Jackie
The independent has more cred than this rag you’re on
TaxPayer
September 13th, 2012
10:32 pm
Steve,
I understand quite well that the Republicans do not want the economy to get better since that works against their chances of winning. Surely you understand what Republicans have been trying to do ever since Obama was elected.
POTUS politically motivated???
September 13th, 2012
10:32 pm
More than two thirds of Americans believe President Obama’s public endorsement of gay marriage was motivated by politics, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll. A total of 67 percent overall said it was a political maneuver. That includes 86 percent of Republicans, and — more importantly — 70 percent of independents. Only 24 percent said they thought he did it “because he thought it was the right thing to do,” CBS News reported.
President Obama’s executive order on immigration was politically motivated…
Obama Leaks Risk National Security For Political Gain…
Obama administration’s new policy on deportation “a politically motivated power grab.”
etc….
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:33 pm
@jm
Is your previous statement another characterization of a nose job?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 13th, 2012
10:35 pm
Remember libs., keep a low profile after evening prayers tomorrow !
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:35 pm
Jackie 10:29 get a real name
Got anything else? Guess not.
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:36 pm
Scout
Libs pray?
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:38 pm
@jm
Get a real brain to think through your specious claims; got anything else?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
10:38 pm
Jackie 10:29 get a real name
Perhaps you can lend him one from the dozens of sock-puppet at your disposal.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
10:38 pm
“I’ll ask this question again, since I didn’t get a response earlier”
I wasn’t online when you posted it. I will be glad to oblige you>
“When President Obama commanded the assination of BinLaden, he was seen by the cons as NOT being the one with the ultimate responsibiity of making that decision/call.”
That’s news to me. Would you kindly provide evidence for this assertion? Personally, I was pleasantly surprised and shocked that he ordered the hit instead of a capture (since that would be more consistent with his bring-terrorists-to-trial mentality he seemed to exhibit elsewhere). And just for that reason alone – not even considering the fact the he ordered a raid into the sovereign territory of a nuclear country – I was and still am happy to give him credit.
“Please clarify how he can only be responsible when something BAD (described as something the republicans LIKE or anything to besmirch Obama); happens.”
I think I have just disproved your premise.
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
10:38 pm
Before I go – some insight on the “independent”
In a 12 June 2007 speech British Prime Minister Tony Blair called The Independent a “viewspaper”, saying it “was started as an antidote to the idea of journalism as views not news. That was why it was called the Independent. Today it is avowedly a viewspaper not merely a newspaper”.[33] The Independent criticised Blair’s comments the following day.[34][35] The newspaper has since ironically changed format to include a ‘Viewspaper’ insert in the centre of the regular newspaper, designed to feature most of the opinion columns and arts reviews. Satirical magazine Private Eye frequently refers to The Independent as The Indescribablyboring.
Night all!
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
10:40 pm
kamchak- Michelle Malkin
Thanks again for posting your kiddie-porn fantasy video. Feel free to rub one out screaming my name in her honor.
td
September 13th, 2012
10:40 pm
They BOTH suck
September 13th, 2012
10:20 pm
“To say that President’s personally at fault without knowing any more than you and I shows that she is a hack……………”
Why do you and other libs keep making excuses for Obama and not hold him accountable for the actions of either himself or his administration? I believe it was Truman that said: “The buck stops here”. A person runs for President to become the CEO of the Federal Government. It is his/her responsibility to make sure the government runs correctly. He is held accountable for what happens on his watch. When something in the Federal government goes wrong then he either kicks but and takes names or it is on him. GOA, Secret Service mess, all these alternative energy companies and now this problem with having the intelligence and not acting on it.
What has he done with these problems? Why has he not kicked but and taken names? This shows to me that he is NOT a leader and Bob Woodruff’s book showed how he can not negotiate a deal with Congress. What good is he to the American people and running our nation?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 13th, 2012
10:40 pm
Jm:
No ………….. they boo when you mention God but the Radical Islamists do and when they’re finished …………………… beware !
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:41 pm
Kam 10:38 that was actually humorous
Good job
kayaker 71
September 13th, 2012
10:41 pm
Just watched a tape of Bozo giving a speech before some Muslim group touting the goodness of Islam and stating that ,”The United States will never, never be at war with Islam”. There is little doubt after watching this tape, if there ever was, that this clown is a closet Muslim with an agenda. The tape was supposed to be aired on Fox News but it got pulled at the insistence of the WH so as not to put Bozo in a bad light with all of the embassies being attacked. Wake up America.
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:41 pm
@Kamchak
Why don’t you lend me one your sock puppets, “rocket scientist!”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
10:42 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
Just sayin’.
getalife
September 13th, 2012
10:42 pm
No sources in that desperate lie on drudgey means it is a lie.
Really desperate now.
The polls are looking good.
I stand with our President, gop, dem and country united to show patriotism and resolve.
Join us.
getalife
September 13th, 2012
10:43 pm
Imagine if the gop united after the collapse.
Yeah, I’m dreaming.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
10:43 pm
Jackie
My 10:38 was directed at Jm, and not you.
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:44 pm
Getalife
Yes the polls look ok for Obama
But it’s easy to move 5 points in 2 months
Fred ™
September 13th, 2012
10:45 pm
Is towncrier still here?
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:45 pm
Make that one month and 2.5 weeks
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:45 pm
@Kamchak
My apologies.
Cactus
September 13th, 2012
10:46 pm
Romney called for Bernanke’s ouster a week or two ago contradicting the public comments of his chief economic adviser. While I don’t think Bernanke cared, doesn’t it suggest a certain level of stupidity for a presidential nominee of any party to make such a public statement while the head of the reserve has the option to help his opponent? Perhaps it’s the same level of stupidity that publicly criticizes the sitting president for his stance – good or bad – in dealing with terrorists and murderers overseas. Americans of both parties have almost always felt it was in America’s best interest to present a unified front to our adversaries overseas, but not today’s GOP nominee. This is the same level of bad judgment, inexperience and stupidity that brought forward disgust in the U.K. with Romney questioned whether they were prepared for the Olympics. Do we really want someone with this little judgment and this much ignorance outside the realm of “business” to sit in the White House? This isn’t necessarily an endorsement of Obama, who has his own share of negatives, but it is a criticism of a seemingly nice, moral man who presumes to be ready for the White House when it is clear he is out of his depth. Of course, the alternative from the GOP are the nut jobs on the far right who couldn’t find their way to the White House without Rush holding one hand and NRA lobbyists holding the other. The Tea Party is holding something else, but we don’t need to go there.
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:46 pm
“Imagine if the gop united after the collapse.”
They are united. Against socialism.
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:47 pm
Jackie is a little slowwwww…..
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
10:48 pm
So JKL2, go ahead ye olde master of all things Jewish You explain it in some substantive way.
Why have you Republicans always gotten decimated by American Jewish voters? I’m talking slaughtered.
Liberal plantations?
Voting against their own best interests?
Parasites and an entitlement mentality?
Your input on this matter should be both illustrate and entertaining…
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
10:48 pm
Crier – You don’t recall? Then you must’ve been in a cave in Afghanistan somewhere:
Romney and other Republicans have accused Obama of politicizing the anniversary of bin Laden’s death. Romney said he was “very disappointing for the president to try to make this a political item,” and insists he would have made the same decision to go after bin Laden. Sen. John McCain, Obama’s 2008 opponent, joined in on the criticism, telling Fox News: “You know the thing about heroes? They don’t brag.” Former New York Gov. George Pataki also weighed in, saying he was “appalled” by the Obama campaign’s use of the raid.
However, U.S. News’s Susan Milligan thinks Republicans should be careful criticizing Obama over bin Laden’s death.
The mistake Republicans are making with their complaints about Obama using bin Laden’s death for campaign purposes is that they merely draw attention to Obama’s biggest foreign policy success. Accuse someone of gloating, and you just remind people of the event or accomplishment that person is touting.
She also reminded the GOP that they are the party of President George W. Bush, “who landed on an aircraft carrier with a ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner—when the mission was far from accomplished.”
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/05/01/is-obama-wrongly-politicizing-osama-bin-ladens-death
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This is a little more succint AND has a video attached to it!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-1-2012/victory-lapse—the-anniversary-of-osama-bin-laden-s-death
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:49 pm
@jm
Just quick enough to be ahead of you.
What do you think?
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
10:49 pm
“More than two thirds of Americans believe President Obama’s public endorsement of gay marriage was motivated by politics, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll. A total of 67 percent overall said it was a political maneuver. That includes 86 percent of Republicans, and — more importantly — 70 percent of independents. Only 24 percent said they thought he did it “because he thought it was the right thing to do,” CBS News reported.”
Curious. I don’t see how that helps him politically (but then, I am not down into the Machiavellian weeds of the political game of win at all costs).
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
10:50 pm
Yes. Obama has to actually read his intel briefings instead of having them acted out with colorful hand puppets like Bush did
Heh, heh, heh.
Jm
September 13th, 2012
10:51 pm
Jackie
I think you’re a bore
And with that, I’m going to catch some z’s
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
10:54 pm
@jm
Another nose job that you got wrong, huh?
Pleasant dreams; no more nightmares about your purported knowledge of world affairs.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
10:55 pm
“Crier – You don’t recall? Then you must’ve been in a cave in Afghanistan somewhere…”
How is anything you said proof of cons saying Obama was not “…the one with the ultimate responsibility of making that decision/call.” I do not follow your reasoning. On the contrary, accusing the POTUS of making hay of Bin Laden’s death or taking more glory for it than he should (that’s a judgement call I have not made one way or the other) is proof that they DID think he was the one with “the ultimate responsibility of making that decision/call.”
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
10:56 pm
That’s news to me. Would you kindly provide evidence for this assertion?
This should be real easy, TC.
The first of MANY articles:
According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is “more responsible” for bin Laden’s death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are “not sure” whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.
Six percent of the overall respondents gave Romney credit where credit is not at all due. Thirty-one percent of them weren’t sure whether the president or the candidate deserves more credit.
Fred ™
September 13th, 2012
11:01 pm
Ah, so Crier IS here. Good. i have some answers for you.
I doubt that very much. They are very real consequences to running you mouth without restraint in real life.
I don’t give a fat rats ass what you do or don’t doubt. Your belief or lack thereof does not in anyway alter the truth. Believe what you want. I’ve seen your twisted political beliefs so I don’t hold much stock in your ‘belief system.”
I don’t. But the irony is that you seem to think you are one of them. In my experience, strong, intelligent people feel little need to go around “bullying” people (which you admitted to) and name calling.
Again you lie and twist the truth. I never admitted to “bullying.” I said I can live with your NAME CALLING (you call me a bully) when you call me a bully as it’s better than being a dumb ass and a liar. You proved my point, thank you. Hypocrisy much? I mean other than in every post here………
If your mother died last month and you revealed that to us here and I said that I was glad to hear of it because I think you are a bad person (which is not true – I do not condemn you as a person, only some of your behavior), would you be “down” with that?
No, I would not. Quite the opposite. I would severely chastise one who did. If you can provide PROOF that Kam did, I will chastise him for it. but I need proof. Your credibility is for sht with me. I pointed out lies here in this post that you directed towards me so before I would chastise someone I DO believe I would need some proof.
Anything else I can help you with? I mean it’s not exactly like you really read with any attempt of understanding any post that doesn’t already conform to your ill informed misconceptions, but if I AM wrong and you seek knowledge and/or understanding, I’ll be happy to oblige you.
I’m simple kind of guy. I’ll deal with you like you deal with me. Ever see me nut up at Brocephus? Nope. Ever see me disagree with Brocephus? Yup. Yet he doesn’t lie to me and he shows he is as willing to listen and learn as he is to speak and teach.
Same with many others here.
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
11:02 pm
There is little doubt after watching this tape, if there ever was, that this clown is a closet Muslim with an agenda.
Kay, your tin foil hat is on too tight. Loosen that thing up!
30,000 additional troop sent into Afghanistan during the early part of his first term. Republicans opposed that surge.
Osama bin Laden – dead. Republicans don’t care.
Dozens and dozens of other Islamomaniacs -dead. (Watch out maniacs! You’re on candid camera.) Republicans don’t care.
American sorties by the hundreds in Libya this past spring. Republicans opposed those missions.
His agenda does not seem terribly benevolent to the Muslims.
In fact, it seems like you war weary (LOL!) neocons have become very pro-Muslim, huh?
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:04 pm
“This should be real easy, TC.”
LOL. Not so fast, buddy. From a Salon article that cites a PPP poll. From the Wiki:
“PPP’s polls have alternatively been described as “Democratic-leaning,” and “accurate”. RealClearPolitics, which collects and summarizes information from many polls, marks PPP as democrat leaning.”
That aside, I was really hoping for “evidence” more akin to statements made by conservative leaders than the purported responses of people to God knows what questions issued by an automated phone system. Can you help me out, there?
Fred ™
September 13th, 2012
11:05 pm
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
10:49 pm
“More than two thirds of Americans believe President Obama’s public endorsement of gay marriage was motivated by politics, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll. A total of 67 percent overall said it was a political maneuver. That includes 86 percent of Republicans, and — more importantly — 70 percent of independents. Only 24 percent said they thought he did it “because he thought it was the right thing to do,” CBS News reported.”
Curious. I don’t see how that helps him politically (but then, I am not down into the Machiavellian weeds of the political game of win at all costs).
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
As an independent, you can count me with the 70% lol. Also like you I don’t see how it benefited him but I MAY be able to offer some insight.
He said that after Biden “committed” him to that position if I remember correctly. After several “setbacks” to his standing with his most liberal supporters I don;t think at that time he could afford not to lay down in the bed that Biden made for him.
But then I may be wrong. I still never believed that he wanted to “go there” though. He was quite content voting “present” on that issue lol.
Fred ™
September 13th, 2012
11:15 pm
Oh and Town Crier?
“It wouldn’t take me 10 minutes to find out who Kam is. It wouldn’t take me 10 minutes to find out who YOU are. ANYONE with a desire and minor brains can find out who I am.”
A bold and arrogant and silly claim. There is only one way to do such a thing I know of, and it would be illegal and require more than brains (something like a bit of knowledge and luck).
It’s not illegal to know how to sort through the GUI and find the information one wants. When folks were “sharing” their IP’s a month or so ago, Jamvet showed a sophistication by the one he posted that I wasn’t aware he had as it pertains to computer. Or maybe it was Kam lol. Or maybe both.
I have a LEGAL program that traces IP’s. It also backtracks every ping I get on my ports, open AND closed. I have several I have written that do more than that. Like I said, it’s not really that big of a deal. It’s not like I’m with Anonymous or anything………..
Adam
September 13th, 2012
11:22 pm
Although still a remote possibility, all the political stuff and foreign stuff that has happened lately, seems to be giving the Democrats a boost. Not just Obama, but the party. Even Eric Cantor is beginning to tack to the center to stave off the voter bleeding.
It remains to be seen if this holds but it’s becoming a less remote possibility that the Democrats will have more wins in the Senate and House than were previously predicted.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:24 pm
Fred:
I am not going to get into a protracted shouting match with you. I know I have “ruffled your feathers” in the past when I was caught up in the madness (or moshing) that this (and many other political) blogs lapse into. For any of the times I said something truly unkind or inappropriate, I apologize.
But I will say this about you without any malice or condemnation: you come across as an obnoxious person. You have repeatedly said that NO one can tell you what to say or how to say it and (if memory serves) have even admitted to getting banned from blogs. We all rub or can rub people the wrong way. Sometimes that is their fault and sometimes its ours. But you seem almost irrepressible and shameless about it. What is interesting to me since I decided to change the way I interact with people here is that a few liberals have actually commended me for it and have started doing the same thing. This blog can be an inferno of finger-pointing and what intelligent and mature person really wants that?
Now, with regard to Kamchak: if you will track back through the blog, I believe you will find that I intimated that Brietbart, though clearly a right leaning site, should not be dismissed out of hand because they more than once are right or present accurate information. And I said that I also read and linked to Huffington Post articles. Kamchak soon thereafter said in a post that “Breitbart was still dead.” And I called him out on that, thinking it was a classless and pathetic thing to do. And that is when you jumped into the fray, attacking me.
This is all I intend to say on this matter. If none of what I’ve said sits well with you, let’s just ignore each other.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
11:25 pm
Or maybe it was Kam lol.
T’weren’t me. I don’t know what my IP address is or how to find it.
Adam
September 13th, 2012
11:25 pm
Kam: http://www.whatismyip.com
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
11:28 pm
And I called him out on that, thinking it was a classless and pathetic thing to do.
If by “called [me] out” you mean trying to guilt me with a puerile passive/aggressive stunt, then yeah, you really called me out.
Atlanta 1
September 13th, 2012
11:28 pm
The risk is to continue to weaken the dollar at a time when fossil fuels are in high demand. You could see more investments into gold, silver, and ‘yes’ oil.
Remember, when the dollar weakens – it is the equivalent to a tax. If the dollar weakens by 5 percent – that means that an import cost 5% more.
The other risk is inflation. If you flood the market with addtional cash, it can potentially force the cost of goods ‘up’ – how do you slow inflation? You raise interest rates. What happens when you raise interest rates – it slows the economy.
It’s a pretty big gamble that could blow up in our face ‘big time’.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
11:30 pm
Adam
Thanks, but I don’t know what all that means.
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
11:31 pm
getalife- No names but the Intell committee said there was no warning
The guy who calls Harry Reid said it was true. How can you argue with prima facie evidence like that….
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:32 pm
“Like I said, it’s not really that big of a deal. It’s not like I’m with Anonymous or anything”
Getting personally identifiable information requires more than an IP address (which will change every time you reconnect to the Internet if you use Windows via DDNS) and open port information. You have to go through an open port and hack a person’s computer. That is where it gets illegal.
Adam
September 13th, 2012
11:37 pm
Atlanta 1: I disagree with your analysis. Hyperinflation as a result of the Fed doing its thing has been “just around the corner” for years now.
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
11:39 pm
debbie- JKL2 – I knowhow ya’ll cons LOVE to blame Obama for not being all knowing, all seeing, and everywhere all the time, but The State Department is ran by Clinton.
OK, it’s clinton’s fault. It’s obama’s fault for not giving her proper direction and/or following up to ensure she understood and complied with his directives(insert no leadership ability comment here).
Maybe they could have figured that out at one of those security briefings he blows off because they are not important to his re-election campaign…
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:41 pm
“If by “called [me] out” you mean trying to guilt me with a puerile passive/aggressive stunt, then yeah, you really called me out.”
You know, Kamchak, I really don’t understand your preoccupation with this “passive/aggressive” concept. Where in the world did you come by that? I’m betting that most people, when they read what I said to you, will not think right off the bat I was engaging in a “puerile passive/aggressive stunt” but rather that I was employing an age old rhetorical device called sarcasm (just as I said earlier) to point out your error. Now, some people may take sarcasm as an attempt to shame them. But it is more a means to really get people to think about what they are doing, even if the get mad initially. Besides, innocent people have no reason to feel shame.
Adam
September 13th, 2012
11:46 pm
The idea that Obama somehow caused the protests and attacks on U.S. Embassies and consulates is as much nonsense as suggesting that 9/11 was an inside job. And I think that, for some of the right, the truther people are no doubt the reason they are crazily blaming Obama for this. It’s like how the media tried to turn a few things into “Obama’s Katrina” every time something bad happened in the Gulf.
Some of the people who attacked the consulate in Libya have reportedly already been arrested. I suppose you think that’s an inside job too.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:48 pm
“The idea that Obama somehow caused the protests and attacks on U.S. Embassies and consulates is as much nonsense as suggesting that 9/11 was an inside job.”
Who is saying that, Adam?
Oscar
September 13th, 2012
11:49 pm
Atlanta 1
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A weaker dollar also means our products are cheaper overseas. That will increase exports and increase our manufacturing base.
And it will decrease imports, as you pointed out.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
11:51 pm
Where in the world did you come by that?
A lifetime of dealing with professionals who are better at it than you.
It’s now painfully obvious that you have no idea of what it is that you are groping for.
Adam
September 13th, 2012
11:53 pm
Towncrier: I have seen it almost outright stated as such on a number of forums and threads. People say stuff like “This happened under Obama’s watch, how come he didn’t stop it” etc.
Adam
September 13th, 2012
11:55 pm
Towncrier: Or my favorite: “Obama wanted this to happen because he sympathizes with the Muslims and he wants to join them because his book says so”
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:57 pm
“Towncrier: I have seen it almost outright stated as such on a number of forums and threads. People say stuff like “This happened under Obama’s watch, how come he didn’t stop it” etc.”
Not preventing the attacks is NOT the same thing as causing them. Let us see what is learned in the coming days. There is at least one report that the Obama administration was warned of an impending attack two days before it occurred. If that turns out to be true, we will see what the level of accountability was.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
11:58 pm
“Or my favorite: “Obama wanted this to happen because he sympathizes with the Muslims and he wants to join them because his book says so”
That is a classic, to be sure. What would we call them – bloggerisms (instead of Yogiisms)?
JKL2
September 13th, 2012
11:59 pm
jamvet- So JKL2, go ahead ye olde master of all things Jewish You explain it in some substantive way. Your input on this matter should be both illustrate and entertaining…
Don’t know. I’m not Jewish.
When the president says he can’t meet with the Israeli Prime Minister because he has to go to a fund raising dinner and appear on Letterman, I’m guessing his Jewish block is getting smaller and smaller.
Adam
September 14th, 2012
12:01 am
I think Obama should be held exactly as accountable as Bush was, in that case. You know, to be fair.
Towncrier
September 14th, 2012
12:08 am
“I think Obama should be held exactly as accountable as Bush was, in that case. You know, to be fair.”
Well I don’t think he will be personally held accountable for it in a legal sense. If warnings were ignored, then someone in his administration will be held accountable. The only way he may be affected is in his attempt to get re-elected. If things turn really sour in the Middle East in the next month or so, he can not realistically be faulted for that. But politicians will blame him and it will have happened on his watch. And fair or not, it will likely hurt him in the mind of the voting public.
Towncrier
September 14th, 2012
12:09 am
Okay…I’m out…Goodnight all.
JKL2
September 14th, 2012
12:11 am
jamvet- 30,000 additional troop sent into Afghanistan during the early part of his first term. Republicans opposed that surge.
Results? Still a waste of money.
-Osama bin Laden – dead. Republicans don’t care.
Thanks President Bush! We would have never got him without you.
-Dozens and dozens of other Islamomaniacs -dead. (Watch out maniacs! You’re on candid camera.) Republicans don’t care.
No idea what you’re talking about here. too vague
-American sorties by the hundreds in Libya this past spring. Republicans opposed those missions.
Remove a dictator who has been helping us for several years to replace him with a terrorist organization. good move mister foreign policy. How many wars do you have to start before they take away your Nobel Peace Prize?
His agenda does not seem terribly benevolent to the Muslims. In fact, it seems like you war weary (LOL!) neocons have become very pro-Muslim, huh?
No.
Vote obama: Peace thru payoffs! No problem I can’t solve by throwing the checkbook at it.
JKL2
September 14th, 2012
12:29 am
adam- The idea that Obama somehow caused the protests and attacks on U.S. Embassies and consulates is as much nonsense as suggesting that 9/11 was an inside job
9/11 insiders share the same padded cell as the birthers. As for obama’s responibilities, others disagree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzX_Oh4DMZc
9/11 was a test and obama failed with flying colors. Can’t wait to see what the next four years will bring.
Peter
September 14th, 2012
12:33 am
Vote obama: Peace thru payoffs! No problem I can’t solve by throwing the checkbook at it.
WOW……. WAR through the GOP…. Iraq.. Throw the check book at it … Then never have a plan to pay for it !
HA HA HA………….. Really when the GOP has brought the country to WAR and thrown the check book at it ?
Chris
September 14th, 2012
12:37 am
Bookman, you are a myopic liberal idiot. It was NOT widely expected, not on that scale and it will NOT create jobs. The political suspicions are legit. Since people don’t have jobs let’s goose the stock market so their retirement accouts go up and they ‘feel better off’ in the short term, at least through November!
getalife
September 14th, 2012
12:47 am
cons are getting desperate after seeing the polls.
The gop are tossing romney under the bus.
They call him nixon.
JKL2
September 14th, 2012
12:50 am
peter- WOW……. WAR through the GOP…. Iraq.. Throw the check book at it … Then never have a plan to pay for it
It’s the same plan obama uses. It’s called a credit card. Demwits are laughing at the “draconian cuts” in the Ryan budget that will have us at $23T in ten years. I’m betting obama will have us past that by 2016.
I know you’re not keeping up with current events, but Bush isn’t president anymore. He hasn’t been in charge of the books for four years. Doesn’t matter if it was right or wrong, we paid the bill a long time ago. Try working with the things we can change.
JKL2
September 14th, 2012
12:54 am
getalife- cons are getting desperate after seeing the polls
Could care less about your rigged polls. They mean nothing. I physically laugh at the way people like you check them every five minutes and act like it means something.
The chance of your poll (pick one, your choice) being accurate is about the same as an estimate report from the CBO. Not worth the paper it’s printed on.
If anything, your reliance on them is an act of desperation.
Dr. Craig Spinks/ Georgians for Educational Excellence
September 14th, 2012
2:38 am
The diminutive FRS chairman from the SC PeeDee will have the last laugh.
LeRoi2
September 14th, 2012
2:57 am
JKL2 they have nothing else. History should tell them that, but progressives ignore and hate history, because it always, always, proves them wrong. They want to ignore the polls from Reagan/Carter, the closest comparison in a presidential race that we have to the current race, because it will remove all doubt from their mind how Obama is going to be sent home. The newest revelations about them being warned days in advance about the attacks on our embassies and doing nothing to prevent them, are going to have very negative results for the clowns.
LeRoi2
September 14th, 2012
3:05 am
Adam, your ignorance is showing.”Some of the people involved in the embassy attack in Libya have already been arrested”. There is no such thing as arrest in those countries, and the people taken in are surely marked for torture and murder. Only thing is, the ruling Mullahs round up all their enemies in times like this, kill them, and claim they were the guilty ones. Ignorant people think jstice has been done. You are pretty nieve.
seabeau
September 14th, 2012
4:39 am
Bernanke’s just trying to save Obama’s ship from sinking!!
Jack
September 14th, 2012
6:28 am
Quantitative easing comes out of my pocket and goes into someone else’s pocket. Guess whose. That’s what Obama call sharing.
Joel Edge
September 14th, 2012
6:36 am
“The reaction of GOP members of Congress is revealing, isn’t it?”
It’s even more revealing that they should do this now. And since it’s been done twice before, are they desperate for another outcome? Since it doesn’t seem to have helped before.