Fed Reserve condemned for daring to seek job growth
Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke today announced another round of quantitative easing, the technical term for injecting more capital into the economy to lower interest rates and encourage growth.
The decision was widely expected, and before it was announced Republican members of Congress were already condemning it as a politically motivated effort to help the re-election bid of Barack Obama.
“It really is interesting that it is happening right now before an election,” said Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho). “It is going to sow some growth in the economy, and the Obama administration is going to claim credit.”
“I am shocked, just shocked, that politics are going on in this city!” Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.) said sarcastically.
“They are the ones who always say they want to remain independent. So they should consider, just how independent are they when they come out, only 50 days before the election, with this?” said Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.).
The Fed has taken similar action twice before, in part to offset the refusal by Congress to inject more money into the economy through stimulus. “The Committee is concerned that, without further policy accommodation, economic growth might not be strong enough to generate sustained improvement in labor market conditions,” the official announcement read.
The reaction of GOP members of Congress is revealing, isn’t it? They acknowledge that the move is likely to put more Americans into jobs. But they nonetheless oppose it, condemning it as politically motivated, because they fear those steps might help President Obama.
Avoiding the second outcome is more important than achieving the first. Such is the state of patriotism.
– Jay Bookman
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godless heathen
September 13th, 2012
6:57 pm
No Kam, never happened to me. At least Will was sucking up to the bosses daughter that could prove to be some benefit instead of a 19 yo intern that would save a stained dress. (That Slick)
F. Sinkwich
September 13th, 2012
6:58 pm
Just turned on the HD.
See a lot of weenie roasts going on in the ME. I loves me s’mores too. I think the flames are a little high though.
getalife
September 13th, 2012
6:59 pm
Ben would not do easing if gop congress worked together on jobs
Jay
September 13th, 2012
6:59 pm
Well at least you now agree that there is a dual mandate and that full employment is not the sole mandate of the Fed.
Total BS, Thulsa. I never said or in any way implied that full employment was the sole mandate. You, on the other hand, argued in favor of one to the exclusion of other.
Don’t try to rewrite history, sir.
LUCIFER
September 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
Yep, yep. The nation can go into the toilet while the GOP recaptures the White House. What a bunch of batcrap crazy freeloaders!
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:01 pm
BIG DADDY
“Don’t try to rewrite history, sir.”
Or at least if you do, get a MAJOR historian to show you how…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 13th, 2012
7:02 pm
…instead of a 19 yo intern that would save a stained dress. (That Slick)
Too funny!
I never voted for Clinton so your attempt to score points by using him is, well — lame.
yuzeyurbrane
September 13th, 2012
7:04 pm
Right on the mark Jay. The way I figure it, none of their donors have really had to go without anything during Bush’s recession and in fact the vultures are probably gobbling up assets at fire sale prices. So why not continue the general suffering as long as it takes to get that n out of the White House? I hope voters give them all a big surprise in their Congressional votes and turn these “rule or ruin” folks out.
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:05 pm
New NBC/WSJ poll numbers:
“Mr. Obama leads Mr. Romney by seven percentage points in Ohio and by five in both Florida and Virginia.”
Jackie
September 13th, 2012
7:05 pm
Has any of those who oppose Mr. Bernanke’s move to help stimulate the economy stopped to consider the USA is 25% of the world’s economy, therefore, with the rest of the world on the brink of another recession, why is it hard to understand that something needs to be done to keep the economy moving.
Secondly, it was announced last week that the American worker is the most productive in the world and the efficiency of the manufactures has increased more than 2% annually, giving the managers of those companies a means of limiting hiring because those that are employed can produce more product.
stands for decibels
September 13th, 2012
7:05 pm
Fed Reserve condemned by people who don’t give a crap about this nation or its people for daring to seek job growth
Fixed your typo, Jay.
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:06 pm
The actions and behavior from the right after the election of President Obama would be a good history book.
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:07 pm
More Fun With Some “Good” Republicans! (AKA Fun with voter Supression Laws)
House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-Allegheny) suggested that the House’s end game in passing the Voter ID law was to benefit the GOP politically.
“We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years,” said Turzai in a speech to committee members Saturday. He mentioned the law among a laundry list of accomplishments made by the GOP-run legislature.
“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”
Shameless. They know there isn’t any substantial voter fraud going on, and they know their ideas aren’t popular, or in some cases, even existent. But they’ve got lots of money and an agenda and they’re not afraid to use it.
Maddow Blog:
The Republicans in attendance cheered, and I suppose that’s to be expected — the disenfranchisement of traditional Democratic voters is bound to make Republicans applaud.
But but the state lawmaker’s candor was a reminder that Pennsylvania’s voter-ID law isn’t about the integrity of the process; it’s about ensuring Republican victories by rigging the game.
State Sen. Daylin Leach, a Democratic critic of voter ID, told Cernetich, “This is making clear to everyone what Voter ID was all about. This is about one thing: disenfranchising Democratic voters and rigging elections for Republicans. When they get behind closed doors, they admit it. And that’s exactly what Turzai did.”
The Pennsylvania State GOP’s effort to walk back Turzai’s braggadocio is about as lame as anything else:
“Rep. Turzai was speaking at a partisan, political event. He was simply referencing, for the first time in a long while, the Republican Presidential candidate will be on a more even keel thanks to Voter ID…Anyone looking further into it has their own agenda,” he told PoliticsPA.com.
Really? And “a more even keel” means what? Eliminating legitimate voters from the rolls because they don’t drive? Robbing voters of their right to participate in democracy? That agenda?
===================
All those “Good” Republicans cheering voter suppression laws….
stands for decibels
September 13th, 2012
7:08 pm
a 19 yo intern
why don’t you make her 9 and a Special Ed student?
long as you’re just inventing stuff on the spot, that is.
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
7:08 pm
Debbie, I use Carter because…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URa7ByznRI
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:08 pm
getalife
The problem with that is, it would have to be encyclopedic in volumes…
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:09 pm
Another “Good” republican who’s celebrating the conflict in the Middle East and the possible slaughter of hundres of innocent Americans; as well as those soldiers who would be in the midst of any fight:
Stinkwitch: See a lot of weenie roasts going on in the ME. I loves me s’mores too. I think the flames are a little high though.
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
7:10 pm
Jay, it appears that Romney is losing ground these days.
Do you think that his Libyan blunder is a factor in these latest numbers? Or is that too early to show up? And will it cause even further erosion?
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:11 pm
josef,
It would make you more famous
And a very long movie indeed.
Just remember, I get half.
They BOTH suck
September 13th, 2012
7:12 pm
DDR
Sink and the like actually believe this is helping Romney and Obama is going to lose the election…………
Not over till it is over, but I predict a crying Sink as opposed to a crying Sink we see now
Welcome to the Occupation
September 13th, 2012
7:12 pm
LeRoi2 I followed your link but when I saw “Niall Ferguson’s fine book Civilization” I closed the window.
Niall Ferguson is a colossal hack, so any author that thinks his book is ‘fine’ is instantly discredited for me.
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:13 pm
DDR
You know what scares me? The folks who are all but cheering on the mobs in the ME just to “prove” a point…it’s as if they want them to take over so they can say “so, there…I told you…” Sad…
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:14 pm
getalife
I ain’t got that much time left!
Pizzaman
September 13th, 2012
7:14 pm
It appears that the Market likes what the Fed is doing even if Wingnut and the TeaPubs dont.
They BOTH suck
September 13th, 2012
7:14 pm
josef
And in the last two days, I’m sure you know who the loudest cheerleader is in regards to what you are saying.
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:15 pm
Debbie,
I think your post on voter id needs the attention of the Department of Justice so they can fight against it.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
7:15 pm
“Do you think that his Libyan blunder is a factor in these latest numbers? Or is that too early to show up? And will it cause even further erosion?”
Do you think Obama leaving Washington and campaigning in las Vega Nevada the next day might cause even further erosion in his Presidential quest?
BADA BING (put an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class things up a little)
September 13th, 2012
7:16 pm
Egypt already has a hunger problem. Good luck on getting that tourist business back now.
LeRoi2
September 13th, 2012
7:17 pm
Occupation the article is much more than one reference to one writer, but your close mindedness is expected, and noted.
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:17 pm
josef,
Yeah and we have to wait until after his second term.
We have not seen all the gop outrageous attacks yet.
TM
September 13th, 2012
7:18 pm
The dems spent a week in NC slapping themselves on the back saying Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive and then on 9/11 our foreign offices with no security are attacked. Anyone surprised?
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
7:19 pm
At least John McCain didn’t make a fool out of himself on the national stage. (Excluding picking Sarah!)
But Mitt Romney sure has. What a terrible candidate.
Obama’s writers will be preparing his Lou “Luckiest man on the face of the earth” Gehrig speech soon…
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:19 pm
Orange,
His plane is an office.
Thulsa Doom
September 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
“Total BS, Thulsa. I never said or in any way implied that full employment was the sole mandate.”
Jay,
Baloney. Well you sure as hell suggested it when you stated earlier that full employment was the statutory mandate of the Fed. You said nothing about the dual mandate so the suggestion seemed pretty clear to me that you considered full employment the only mandate. And if not then you certainly should have been more precise in your statement and mentioned the dual mandate. As it stands you did not. So I stand by my remark.
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
7:21 pm
No, not at all, 12.
But it is noted that you “answered” a question with a question…
LeRoi2
September 13th, 2012
7:23 pm
Getalife, would that be the same DOJ that said the members of the new black panthers, standing outside of a polling place with a bat, were not intimidating anyone? The same DOJ that bought and smuggled weapons to the Mexican drug cartels, that were used to kill a DEA Agent in Phoenix. The same DOJ that refused to produce documents requested by congress, then claimed “executive privilege”? The same DOJ where the leader was held in Contempt of Congress? In the DNC, everyone there had to produce 2 forms of ID to be admitted to Obama’s speech, why were the DEMS suppressing attendance to Obama’s speech?
Thulsa Doom
September 13th, 2012
7:24 pm
Bada Bing,
To hell with the Egyptians. I get national geographic so I guess I’ll just have to confine myself to looking at pics of the sphinx and the great pyramids. Oh well. I think it was only in the last 6 months or year that some terrorists shot up a busload of tourists on the way to the pyramids. So I guess those jackasses were already doing a pretty good job of scaring off tourists.
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:26 pm
Getting a little more serious for a minute here, but Romney most likely shot a hole the size of his ego in the GOP boat. His comments were irresponsible, reactionary and oriented to play to that base.
This is Obama’s game here, and if he plays his cards right, this could be his coup. Libya made it clear in its elections that the citizenry has no stomach for radicalism and went heavily for moderation. The West still has a great deal of goodwill on the ground there due to the way it behaved in the revolution. We need to support to the utmost the present government in its goal of bringing to LIBYAN justice those who would seek to derail the promise of their revolution. The reason Libya was chosen for this action was that it was succeeding in bringing about real and substantive change.
This requires moderation on our part and a cool head. I think we have that in President Obama and I think the Libyan people know that. The last thing we need to be doing is attacking them and doing our own dirt in derailing their revolution.
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:26 pm
josef: And you’re right…if I had to recommend a cooking school in the Atlanta area, Ursula’s would be it!
Word. The only school I’d like to go to even more than Ursula’s (if she had one), would be Paula Dean’s. Next year I wanna take one of those “Cooking Vacations”; I looked online and there are a few for some of the best “foodie” states in America AND around the world. I’m leaning more towards the “vacations” in New Orleans for next year. (Maybe then I can learn the “correct way” to cook r,b & r!
LeRoi: Debbie, I use Carter because you have to compare apples to apples. Obama and Carter are in a group by themselves as far as ineptitude goes, nothing else even comes close. I am sure you didnt read the article, too many multiple syllable words
LeRoy ……….. bless your little itty bitty blackened heart!! Maybe, if the Cindy Lou Whoo can get the other Whoo’s to sing a happy song, your little heart will grow 10x bigger!!
http://tinyurl.com/9ogdrp7
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:27 pm
BTW, if romney suspended his campaign after the attack on 9/11 instead of attacking him, he would not go to Vegas.
McCain schooled him but he did not listen.
BADA BING (put an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class things up a little)
September 13th, 2012
7:27 pm
Are they burning American made flags in the ME or Chinese made? We might as well sell them some and make some money off the deal.
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:30 pm
Ooops LeRoy! Meant to give you THIS site:
http://petcaretips.net/grinchheartsmall.jpg
LeRoi hated Obama!
He had no reason — he just hated him, no matter the season!
Now, please don’t ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be that his head wasn’t screwed on quite right.
It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were to tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
Really, Thulsa?
Here’s my opening comment to you on the subject:
“Thulsa, as CJ points out, the debate is settled for now as a matter of law. It is the statutory duty of the Federal Reserve to pursue both max employment and a stable currency, and it is legally obligated to act accordingly. If you or the Republicans have a problem with that, change the law.
Again, do not try to rewrite history. That should be attempted only by major historians on a closed track.
TN_Realist
September 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
Seen on a manager’s desk many years ago and, still, oh so true………………….We the unwilling, led by the unknowing, had done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualify to do anything with nothing. So much for the state of business and politics today.
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
You know what else scares me Josef? The role of Egyptian Coptic Christians nice and safe here in the USA who financed and promoted that movie.
They’re gonna end up contributing to the death of thousands of their fellow Coptics in Egypt…. amazingly stupid. They have picked a fight they cannot hope to win.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
7:33 pm
Okay. I’ll answer your question. I’m not Jay but I think that was the best thing Romney has said yet. Here is another question – do you think these attacks have helped Hillary in her possible quest for President in 2016? Another question – why does Obama read his intell briefs every day instead of going to the briefs? This country was de facto attacked and all the majority of you people want to do is run a man down for makeing a statement that the vast majority of American Citizens would have made. Yeah, I can’t wait for the polls to come out just to see how screwed up the people are that participate in said polls if they still lean Obama.
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:33 pm
“Do you think Obama leaving Washington and campaigning in las Vega Nevada the next day might cause even further erosion in his Presidential quest?
———-
Uh, no.
I realize that the right has gotten itself all heted up about that, but then again, you’ve lost the ability to distinguish between a real issue and an issue fabricated to appeal to your base.
stands for decibels
September 13th, 2012
7:34 pm
it’s as if they want them to take over so they can say “so, there…I told you…”
As if?
(on Jay’s threads, I think perhaps the most obnoxious regular has to be Scout and his sarcastic “ARAB SPRING” contributions, where he basically cheers for every act of violence committed by anyone with a Muslim-y sounding name easy of, oh, Lubec, Maine.)
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
And as to your question Jamvet,
Romney’s Libya bungle is too fresh to have been picked up in the polls, and yes, I do expect it to erode his numbers.
On the other hand, I also expect Obama’s post-convention bounce to fade a bit, so it may end up as a wash. A wash is not what Romney needs.
stands for decibels
September 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
EAST of Lubec.
I’ll come in again…
LeRoi2
September 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
Josef, I dont think you have a clue about what is going on in Libya, or you would never wrote what you did. The Muslim Brotherhood controls Libya, just as it does Egypt, calling them moderates is either ignorance, or denial. Jimmy Carter supported and facilitated the return of Khomeini to Iran, as he was called a moderate by the ignorant of that time. You obviously did not read the link I posted. Not surprising, as liberals hate history, as it always proves them wrong. That hatred has now become a denial of history. Libya is going to do for the GOP what the economy should be doing, but too many Americans cannot be bothered wit the facts. ME revolution always gets the Americans blood boiling, and in this part of the world, Obama is seen correctly as a two faced incompetent patronizing sleeze bag. He is going to eating his lunch, watching Americans, and American interests in the ME burning to the ground. Then maybe the people like you will begin to understand! NAW.
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
Jam @ 7:08 – OMG Jam!! At first i didn’t getit, but when I did!! I laughed so hard!!!
Dang good thing i wasn’t cooking anything, or I could blame you too for making me burn up the kitchen!
F. Sinkwich
September 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
DebbieDoDallas:
“Another “Good” republican who’s celebrating the conflict in the Middle East and the possible slaughter of hundres of innocent Americans”
Not me. I’m just wondering where our Preezy is when all this is happening.
Oh yeah, Las Vegas.
Didn’t he tell us we shouldn’t go there back in ‘09?
pogo
September 13th, 2012
7:36 pm
The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has now called for a nationwide day of demonstration tomorrow against the US. And to think, just a couple of months ago Obama was sucking up to their leaders in our White House. Jimmy Carter Redux??? Oh yea.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
7:36 pm
“Curious, if you close enough loopholes to make up for the lost revenue under Romney’s plan, you inevitably have to tackle those loopholes that benefit the middle class. That’s where the big money is.”
What about corporate tax loopholes (isn’t GE paying next to nothing in corporate taxes)? Wouldn’t that (along with the closing of SOME personal tax loopholes like capital gains) really be “where the big money is”?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/02/09/10-Big-Corporate-Tax-Breaks.aspx#page1
In my opinion, it might also be a great idea to eliminate the capital gains loophole and replace it with one that incentivizes investments that lead to a demonstrable creation of jobs.
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:37 pm
DDR
Love Paula Dean…anybody who’s got cream of mushroom soup in the cabinet is A all right in my book…
….and a foodie vacation in NOLA…yay! What better place than back to our roots…Europe, Africa and America in that perfect blend of subtle and slap you down at the same time…say whatever else you will about us, good food and good music make life look a lot better…
stands for decibels
September 13th, 2012
7:38 pm
anyway, just drivin’ by for now. Later, gators.
LeRoi2
September 13th, 2012
7:40 pm
Obama is sucking up to them TONIGHT. They have mutual goals in the ME.
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:40 pm
“The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has now called for a nationwide day of demonstration tomorrow against the US. “
Wrong, Pogo. It is a day of demonstration against that movie. Movie. Country. Two different things.
But hey, if you want to join with the Islamic extremists and equate that movie with this country, I suppose you are free to do so.
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:41 pm
JAY
@ 7:32
Amen! That was one of the most incredibly irresponsible things that could have ever been conceived of!
Welcome to the Occupation
September 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
Wrong, Pogo. It is a day of demonstration against that movie.
In fairness to Pogo, the mainstream media (CNN) has just been running scenes of protests today “against the US” full stop.
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
Both: Sink and the like actually believe this is helping Romney and Obama is going to lose the election…………
They SHOULD be about helping AMERICANS. What a bunch of azz holes!
josef: You know what scares me? The folks who are all but cheering on the mobs in the ME just to “prove” a point…it’s as if they want them to take over so they can say “so, there…I told you…” Sad…
Yes – there are a lot of ignorant people doing that. They can do that because they don’t have any “dogs in this fight” so to speak. It’s not THEIR kids who’ll be on the front line of any war. It’s not THEIR grandchildren who will suffer from a total massive breakdown of the economy — they made sure of that when they squirreled their money away in the Caymans and Switzerland.
So THEY can be as gleeful as they want about the atrocities that are happening in the middle east — they’re not affected in any way.
BADA BING (put an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class things up a little)
September 13th, 2012
7:43 pm
After the Volt’s failure, maybe we should have killed GM, and left OBL alive.
Erwin's cat
September 13th, 2012
7:43 pm
Tc…kinda agree on capital gains….isn’t it basically money you made thru no fault of your own?
but then again, i think universities should have their endowments taxed, they all have gamed to get the govt money
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:45 pm
LeRoi
I probably know a bit more about Libya than you may assume. However, the tone and tenor of your post precludes any rational discussion thereof. You are exactly what I was talking about when I said “cool heads.” You belong in the mobs that attacked the consulate since your only aim and goal is to stir up sh*t and you’ll do and say whatever it is your mullahs tell you to.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
7:45 pm
“I realize that the right has gotten itself all heted up about that, but then again, you’ve lost the ability to distinguish between a real issue and an issue fabricated to appeal to your base.”
Well, I see your mindset Jay. Attacks on multiple US embassys (sic) is not a real issue. Who would have thought.
Erwin's cat
September 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
josef and DDR…nothing against nola, but Seattle is a good foodie vacation as well
granny godzilla
September 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
“Obama is not a man of action”
‘
And you know what?
Bears don’t defecate in dense foliage
.
.
.
He’s not your obedient servant.
Get used to it.
godless heathen
September 13th, 2012
7:47 pm
Kam,
I never voted for Clinton so your attempt to score points by using him is, well — lame.
Well I didn’t vote for him either, but you discredit the opinions of Mr. Will because he’s a bad husband. If Mr. Will doesn’t know what he’s talking about because he’s a bad husband, then former President Clinton doesn’t know what he’s talking about either and he’s all-in for President Obama.. Whether you voted for Clinton or not is irrelevant.
You
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:47 pm
The Volt is a failure? Says who?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/boblutz/2012/09/10/the-real-story-on-gms-volt-costs/
JamVet
September 13th, 2012
7:48 pm
…that was the best thing Romney has said yet.
So a disgraceful, bald faced lie is the best thing he has said yet????
The newswires are crawling with condemnation of the would-be prevaricator-in-chief.
Romney’s description of the embassy’s initial statement—“sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in Egypt, instead of condemning their actions”—was blatantly false. When the embassy issued its morning statement, no one had breached the wall. After the breach, when the embassy tweeted that its initial statement “still stands,” it added in the same breath: “As does our condemnation of unjustified breach of the Embassy.” ~Slate.com
Romney foreign policy attack was disgraceful. …unleashing an unwise, inaccurate and unpresidential attack on the Obama administration. ~CNN
Former Romney adviser on Libya: “They stepped in it”. … while Republican foreign policy hands griped that it was a “Lehman moment” and exposed Team Romney as “not ready for prime time.” Peggy Noonan, normally a reliable partisan, told Fox News that “I don’t feel that Mr. Romney has been doing himself any favors in the past few hours…”~CBS News
Instead, Mitt Romney’s criticism of President Barack Obama’s handling of the attacks in Egypt and Libya that led to the death of a U.S. ambassador yesterday fueled questions — even among his allies — about the Republican presidential nominee’s inexperience on national security as his campaign is pushing to gain traction by refocusing on jobs and the economy. ~Bloomberg Businessweek
>i>”I probably would have waited 12 or 24 hours and put out a more comprehensive statement,” Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, told reporters on Capitol Hill. Romney’s statement “can be perceived as being political.” ~LA Times
And feel free to shoot ALL of the messengers, but the joke is on you and your soon to be discarded nominee…
LeRoi2
September 13th, 2012
7:48 pm
Speaking of Jimmuh, here is a link to him correcting Obama’s statement that Egypt is not an ally. I post this because you are certainly not going to read it in the AJC.
http://nation.foxnews.com/jimmy-carter/2012/09/13/jimmy-carter-corrects-obama
hitch
September 13th, 2012
7:48 pm
yeah, pogo. I remember Obama holding hands with the Arab leader and – wait a minute – that was baby Bush and the sheik. How is rush going to explain muslims causing trouble for (who he would say was) one of their own?
You what’s nice? Obama’s people haven’t touched Mitt’s Mormon beliefs. They’re too classy.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
“Romney’s Libya bungle is too fresh to have been picked up in the polls, and yes, I do expect it to erode his numbers. On the other hand, I also expect Obama’s post-convention bounce to fade a bit, so it may end up as a wash. A wash is not what Romney needs.”
Well, the Obama administration’s failure to foresee and advise those in the Middle East about the violence that might result from the release of the film (despite reports now coming out now that there were warnings about the film days ago) is cannot help Obama’s prospects.
But, even more than that (and perhaps something that cannot be blamed fully on anyone), is the growing unrest in the Middle East in reaction to the film. If this develops into a much more serious situation, I think it will really hurt Obama because 1) fair or not, he is president and 2) he is widely thought to have bent over backwards too far in being conciliatory towards a large population of people who act very badly whenever their religion is called into question (which stands in stark contrast to the early Christians who were persecuted to their deaths and – to his great credit – Martin Luther King, Jr. in the civil rights movement).
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
Orange, we’ll see who is right, won’t we.
If the Vegas trip becomes a major issue, you’ll have been right and I’ll have been wrong. And you can do a little victory dance right here on this blog. Reality will tell us which one of us was correct, and which was not.
But personally, I don’t think you need to be strapping on your toe shoes anytime soon.
godless heathen
September 13th, 2012
7:50 pm
Wrong, Pogo. It is a day of demonstration against that movie.
Yea pogo. The poster for the movie just happens to be a banner with red and white stripes and stars in a blue field. Just watch.
BADA BING (put an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class things up a little)
September 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
If you lose money on a car, 50K, 20K, 10k, or even a nickle, you are a failure. And with a Gov’t rebate.
F. Sinkwich
September 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
DebbieDoDallas:
“Both: Sink and the like actually believe this is helping Romney and Obama is going to lose the election…………”
Sort of. This kind of thing demonstrates weak leadership by O’bozo, at best. It also demonstrates piss poor judgement by O’bozo since he celebrated the “Arab Spring.”
Facts is facts. Let the chip fall where they may.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 13th, 2012
7:52 pm
EAST of Lubec.
Is that anywhere close to where that Pet Sematary is in Maine? I been reading that thing after my daughter gave me a copy and I ain’t been able to sleep for two nights in a row. It’s for danged sure I ain’t too fond of that cat of the missus.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
7:53 pm
Yeah Jamvet @748, everyone of your copy and pastes are nothing more ten left leaning news rags. I really believe the left leaning media. I take it for the gospal. Yes siree!
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:53 pm
They think our President should have stop the movie from being in the Internet.
They are learning about freedom and tolerance.
It will take time.
LeRoi2
September 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
JamVet do you ever post anything new, or any substance? We all read the mainstream media attacks on Romney, who dared to criticize your Dear Leader. Here is the truth, Clinton and Obama both criticized the statements from the Embassy, AFTER Romney did, and later took them down. So Obama criticizes Romney for something he later criticizes himself? I know its more work following along, and thinking, but it has rewards, like not posting nonsense. The mainstream media does not reflect American thinking, and Romney was correct. We have rights in this country, and we need to aware and defend those rights, including freedom of religion, and free speech. We do not need to pander to Muslim thugs by saying we dont support those rights, just because what was said pissed them off!
Fed, worried about job growth, launches new stimulus – Los Angeles Times
September 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
[...] keep …Bernanke aims at job market in latest bid to revive faltering recoveryNBCNews.com (blog)Fed Reserve condemned for daring to seek job growthAtlanta Journal Constitution (blog)Fed to Purchase $ 40 Billion Per Month in Bonds Until Job Market [...]
josef
September 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
ERWIN’S
I have heard some good things about Seattle and food…when I was living up that way a few decades back, well…but then I’m not a huge seafood eater…but I will say this, they make some good wines up that way.
Jay
September 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
For example, Orange, I note that you predicted the following regarding Bill Clinton’s speech to the DNC:
“Bill ensures defeat for Dems at the polls. All he did was vomit up the same good for nothing talking points the Obama Admin has been saying for years. Same old, same old. Thanks Bill! The Republicans hold you in high esteem.”
Reality has since rendered its verdict on that prediction. How did it turn out for you?
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
7:57 pm
See what I am talking about:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html
DebbieDoRight - A DoRight Woman
September 13th, 2012
7:57 pm
Getalife: I think your post on voter id needs the attention of the Department of Justice so they can fight against it.
They’re in court now. The chatter on the blogs, (looking at the question the PA Justices Asked the repub lawyer), is that the law will probably stand BUT won’t be implemented for another 2 years.
One good question a justice asked was, “Why the rush?” (For Voter ID). When the repub lawyer mentioned some inane crap about “Voter fraud”, the justice then asked, “Was there any fraud in 2010”? The lawyer said, he didn’t know; but he was SURE there might have been. So then, the justice asked, “Why didn’t you start in 2011 with these mandatory laws? That way, it would’ve given people a full year to get the mandated required ID then?”
Crickets started chirping then……………………
Orange12: Do you think Obama leaving Washington and campaigning in las Vega Nevada the next day might cause even further erosion in his Presidential quest?
THIS ^^^^ is a good example of republican backward thinking. Since the advent of the internet, smart phones, fax machines, etc.; a person does not have to be THERE to “be there”. IOW Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time………….unlike the Mittie…………
LeRoi: Getalife, would that be the same DOJ that said the members of the new black panthers, standing outside of a polling place with a bat, were not intimidating anyone.
OMG!! Not again!!! Next time, don’t forget to bring up the 1929 Stock Market Crash; The Sinking of the Titantic, Hoop Skirts, The 1850 residence of J. McCullough, and Washington crossing the Delaware.
Jay: You know what else scares me Josef? The role of Egyptian Coptic Christians nice and safe here in the USA who financed and promoted that movie.
Im glad you mentioned that – I was reading about that in the AJC. I don’t myopic, religious fanatics, no matter their leanings, mainly because they can only be trusted to do what’s right for their understanding of their religion. This man deliberately started a fight and he doesn’t care WHO he has to kill or maim, (as longas it’s not him); so that he could get his “message” out.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
7:57 pm
No Jay. I won’t be doing any victory jigs. I just think the Commander in Chief’s presence should be in Washington during heightened tensions, not on the campaign trail.
Erwin's cat
September 13th, 2012
7:58 pm
the volt is a totally techno righteous ride…a fella at work has one and the technology built in that car is very very impressive….too bad it became a political football….it was hardly a failure on a technology level
getalife
September 13th, 2012
7:58 pm
Le,
American politics is about perception. New to politics?
Instead of going beserk after the attack on 9/11, he should have waited until it played out and acted like the gop.
He looked like a knee jerk idiot.
josef
September 13th, 2012
8:00 pm
Those of y’all going off on the Muslim Brotherhood have got the wrong devil in the ME…it’s the Salafi you need to be watching…they’re the ones out to wrest control from the Brotherhood and they’re making headway in doing it. They make the Iranian mullahs look like Quakers…
Krystal'sBalls
September 13th, 2012
8:00 pm
“I shouldn’t have to as it is patently obvious they have. But I will keep that in mind for the future.”
I think towncrier needs to consider changing his or her name to CRYINGWOLF!
I won’t even address the second half of that post.
godless heathen
September 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
OK, I’m ready with my FNM TITPB prediction. This time I put some thought into it rather my previously wrong wild-ass guesses.
My thinking is that the libs are all fired up ever since Romney killed that diplomat in Libya and the DNC has recruited extra shills to troll the blogs to make sure that the conversation about the mess in the ME doesn’t stray from the meme that it is all about Romney.
Therefore, my FNM TITPB prediction is 25 posts, and not from one of our usual suspects, but from a previously unseen DNC troll that is going to comment on Romney’s comments about the ME mess.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
Jay @756. We will see when the polls come out won’t we? Sure, he got a small bounce from Bill’s speech. IO will say again that Obama’s behaviour during this crisis has been less than satisfactory.
Thomas Heyward Jr
September 13th, 2012
8:02 pm
“It should not surprise anybody, but it is still astounding. To me, it is so astounding that it does not collapse the markets. [Bernanke] said, ‘We are in very big trouble. We are going to do something unprecedented and we believe it will not hurt the dollar.’ And yet the stocks, they say ‘we love this stuff.’ But the dollar didn’t do so well today and the real value of the dollar is measured against gold, and gold skyrocketed from its very low to its highest. It means we are weakening the dollar. We are trying to liquidate our debt through inflation. The consequence of what the Fed is doing is a lot more than just CPI. It has to do with malinvestment and people doing the wrong things at the wrong time. Believe me, there is plenty of that. The one thing that Bernanke has not achieved and it frustrates him, I can tell—is he gets no economic growth. He doesn’t do anything with the unemployment numbers. I think the country should have panicked over what the Fed is saying that we have lost control and the only thing we have left is massively creating new money out of thin air, which has not worked before, and is not going to work this time.”
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Ron Paul on Obama/Romney Keynesian dummies.
F. Sinkwich
September 13th, 2012
8:02 pm
The POS Volt costs taxpayers $7500 for each one sold. It’s the Solyndra of motor vehicles.
GM is selling some because O’bozo has ordered the federal government to purchase a boatload.
I could never stand on its own.
You know it, I know it, the whole world knows it.
Towncrier
September 13th, 2012
8:03 pm
“I won’t even address the second half of that post.”
Thank you for that.
Murph
September 13th, 2012
8:03 pm
Leroy, come on now. President Obama criticized Romney for the statements criticizing his administration, not the embassy statement. I know it’s more work following along….but it’s certainly easier for you to change a small fact or two to make your point.
Orange12
September 13th, 2012
8:03 pm
“THIS ^^^^ is a good example of republican backward thinking. Since the advent of the internet, smart phones, fax machines, etc.; a person does not have to be THERE to “be there”. IOW Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time………….unlike the Mittie…………”
Not proven. Your offer to join the GOP is still good.
F. Sinkwich
September 13th, 2012
8:03 pm
The POS Volt costs taxpayers $7500 for each one sold. It’s the Solyndra of motor vehicles.
GM is selling some because O’bozo has ordered the federal government to purchase a boatload.
I could never stand on its own.
You know it, I know it, the whole world knows it.
Universe too.