U.S. ambassador to Libya, 3 others, killed in mob attack

From Voice of America:

J. Christopher Stevens

J. Christopher Stevens

Libyan officials say the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three embassy staff were killed after a mob stormed the American consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi late Tuesday.

The deaths occurred when demonstrators angered over an amateur American-made film that insults Islam’s Prophet Muhammad shot at and set fire to the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, a career U.S. foreign service officer and one of the most experienced U.S. envoys in the region, had been in the country for less than four months after taking up his post in the capital, Tripoli, in May.

Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif said the ambassador was killed “along with three other officials,” confirming that Stevens was at the consulate when it was attacked.

Earlier, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had confirmed that only a single U.S. official was killed in the Benghazi attack, which she condemned “in the strongest terms.”

Clinton said some have sought to justify “this vicious behavior” as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. She said the U.S. deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, but rejected any “justification for violent acts of this kind.”

Stevens was an experienced diplomat both in the Middle East and in Libya. According to allgov.com, “Stevens was sent to rebel headquarters in Benghazi, Libya, to serve as special representative to the Libyan Transitional National Council. He arrived on a Greek cargo ship on April 5, 2011 and stayed until November. His mission was to forge stronger links with the Interim Transitional National Council, and gain a better understanding of the various factions fighting the Gadhafi regime. His reports back to Washington were said to have encouraged the U.S. to support the rebel council, which the Obama administration did formally in July 2011.”

Stevens becomes the first U.S. ambassador to die in the line of duty since 1979, when our ambassador to Afghanistan was killed.

CNN confirms the killing, quoting a U.S. contractor who had seen the four bodies. In addition, it reports:

“Libyan Deputy Prime Minister Mustafa Abushagur appeared to confirm that the envoy had been killed, saying that Stevens was “a friend of Libya, and we are shocked at the the attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.”

“I condemn these barbaric acts in the strongest possible terms. This is an attack on America, Libya and free people everywhere,” Abushagur said on Twitter.


– Jay Bookman

347 comments Add your comment

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 12th, 2012
6:59 am

My thoughts and prayers go out to the families.

I have some thoughts about Terry Jones as well…..and they don’t involve prayer.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:05 am

Agreed, GG.

And I’ll add–Society doesn’t tend think of these diplomats as martyrs for a cause, but perhaps we should.

Simple Truths

September 12th, 2012
7:09 am

Granny, what does this have to do with Monty Python?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones

Aquagirl

September 12th, 2012
7:09 am

I think we should send a new Envoy immediately—Terry Jones. Then turn the whole region into a glass bowl.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:09 am

turn the whole region into a glass bowl.

yeah, that’s real helpful.

Salman Khan

September 12th, 2012
7:10 am

Please make this correction. On August 17, 1988 the then U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan was killed in a suspicious air crash near Bahawalpur, Pakistan along with the Pakistani leader Gen. Zia Ul Haq.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 12th, 2012
7:11 am

Aquagirl

September 12th, 2012
7:14 am

sfd, we trained and equipped the Taliban so they could free themselves. Let’s save everyone 20 years or so of waiting.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
7:16 am

I appreciate the update, Mr. Khan. U.S. officials have always ruled that plane crash an accident, although many in Pakistan dispute that conclusion.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 12th, 2012
7:27 am

Clinton on Qaddafi: “We came, we saw, he died”
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Yea …but no American Ambassadors were MURDERED under Qaddafi.
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Heckava Job Hitlery.

rc

September 12th, 2012
7:28 am

What a wonderful peace loving and tollerant religion!
Now what is PrezBO going to do?
Oh I know another fund raising event.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
7:30 am

Just curious, rc:

What course of action would YOU recommend the president take?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 12th, 2012
7:31 am

rc

ya want peace loving religion?

pastor jones has a place for you.

westboro baptist might be another option too.

Madmax

September 12th, 2012
7:31 am

Jay – is this statement true?

U.S. Embassy Condemns Religious Incitement September 11, 2012

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
7:33 am

GG – 7:31 – exactly.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:33 am

Let’s save everyone 20 years or so of waiting.

So you blithely suggest that the answer to this murderous act of civil disobedience is to slaughter millions of Middle Eastern citizens with nukes in response, and let God sort ‘em out?

If you really meant what you poste @ 7.09, and aren’t willing to acknowledge that you may have been caught up in the emotional moment, you may be a bigger hole-o’-ass than “Thomas Heyward, Jr.”

At least that pathetic man-ape probably doesn’t know any better.

You do.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
7:33 am

Madmax, yes it is.

The Obama administration says that it was released by U.S. officials on the ground in Cairo who were attempting to calm the situation there, but says it had not been cleared with superiors in Washington.

Mr. Snarky

September 12th, 2012
7:33 am

This is awful. If people are deliberately provoking stuff like this, they should be held accountable.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
7:33 am

And Thomas – as I responded downstairs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
7:36 am

Jay – not to mention, it was followed up by an OFFICIAL statement from the SecState:

Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
7:36 am

What we have over there are fools eager to overreact to the slightest provocation.

And we have some right here at home equally eager to do the same thing.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 12th, 2012
7:37 am

USinUK – thug with a uterus … and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
7:33 am

And Thomas – as I responded downstairs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
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And what’s wrong with a trial?
Instead of being dragged through the street, droned, assasinated, or Gitmo’ed.
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Oh I know……….a trial isn’t progressive enough.

GT

September 12th, 2012
7:39 am

This same crowd of Terry Jones torments this country, USA, as much as Libya. It is the same DNA of the Tea Party who think their freedoms are more important than the welfare of this country. These backwater spokesmen have always been with us, even occasionally getting into politics, but the Internet have giving this and other loonies, perverts and con artist the organizational skill to take insanity to a whole new level. The more dramatic and untrue the message the more viral it becomes. You got millions of illiterate people out there who do not have lives, and drink this junk up. Next thing you know you got some Florida grease monkey calling himself a preacher, running a reality show, and getting people killed, so he can show his ass. Not far from the crowd that runs this state.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 12th, 2012
7:39 am

The timing of that statement is important to remember.

See Romneys comments.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
7:40 am

Heyward, your “Hitlery” remark exposes you for what you are. No more need or will be said about you.

Aquagirl

September 12th, 2012
7:42 am

If you really meant what you poste @ 7.09, and aren’t willing to acknowledge that you may have been caught up in the emotional moment

Twitter, youtube, and all that other 21st century stuff is intersecting with religious myrmidons. I’ll revise my earlier statement and say we should just go ahead and nuke the entire planet and get it over with. That’s where we’re going anyhow. Our tools have evolved way beyond our control.

Madmax

September 12th, 2012
7:45 am

GT – how do you connect the dots between a mob of Islamic radicals and the Tea Party?

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:45 am

I’ll revise my earlier statement and say we should just go ahead and nuke the entire planet and get it over with.

I hate to say that, but yeah, that’s better.

I thoroughly disagree and I still believe in the power of human love and kindness despite the most horrific examples to the contrary, but who among us hasn’t thought at times that the human race could save itself a lot of grief by just self-exterminating?

Call It Like It Is

September 12th, 2012
7:45 am

Just so very tired of our fine men and women dying over there. Why do we try. This area has been in complete chaos from day one and will not change. Your talking about a race of people that will kill someone due to a slight, a cartoon if you will. They have no interest in peace, never have and never will. America is trying to bring our values to them and they don’t wish to have it. IT WILL NEVER BE A LAND OF PEACE!

Madmax

September 12th, 2012
7:46 am

Granny, if I understand your comment correctly, for once I agree with you.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
7:47 am

Right Nelson. Because mobs of religious zealots always calibrate their actions based on which U.S. president is in office.

Is that why they bombed the Marine barracks in Lebanon when Ronald Reagan was in office?

Seriously people. Engage brain, then post.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
7:47 am

thomas – you missed the point – the POINT was that they didn’t kill an ambassador under Gaddhafi – they just blew up an entire plane of private citizens

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:48 am

Jay, he forgot to add “Cankle-Hildebeast” to the Secretary of State’s honorific.

So he doesn’t get to add his name in the “Orally Pleasure Karl Rove” raffle this week down in the boiler-room. So be nice.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 12th, 2012
7:49 am

Clinton made a vile snarky remark ………Jay. I believe that she thought that she was being clever.
Not unlike Obama joking about droning the Jonas Brothers.
Own it.
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Truth is a sword best honed by friction.

Mr. Snarky

September 12th, 2012
7:51 am

This is extremist a–holes being provoked be extremist a–holes…and the decent peacemakers pay the price. These ideologues have no sense of decency and should be shamed by everyone…on both sides.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 12th, 2012
7:52 am

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:48 am

Jay, he forgot to add “Cankle-Hildebeast” to the Secretary of State’s honorific.

So he doesn’t get to add his name in the “Orally Pleasure Karl Rove” raffle this week down in the boiler-room. So be nice.
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Don’t waste your time paying any attention to me SD.
You should limit your attention to what the Neo-cons are doing to your party.
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Crack that whip.
.lol

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 12th, 2012
7:53 am

Of course, the Right will scream about how weak Obama is, and then follow up with absolutely no plan of their own to do anything differently.

Aquagirl

September 12th, 2012
7:54 am

but who among us hasn’t thought at times that the human race could save itself a lot of grief by just self-exterminating?

I figure if we do the job now, at least some life will survive. Wait a few generations and we’ll probably have a super-mega weapon that will kill everything right down to the bacteria.

Seriously, though, look at what the printing press did for Europe and later the rest of the world. New advances in communication always spark intense conflict and change, but this is the first time in history we’ve had the means to actually launch Armageddon. It may not end well.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
7:55 am

Romney campaign says this: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

Of course, they have the timeline intentionally wrong. The statement trying to calm everything was released hours BEFORE the attack. So another Romney attack built on lies. Anyone surprised?

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:55 am

You should limit your attention to what the Neo-cons are doing to your party.

There are only so many hours in the day one can spend insulting Little Tommy Friedman.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:57 am

It may not end well.

or, maybe it will end with Hunger Games. So there’ll be that.

Its ME

September 12th, 2012
7:57 am

From what I am reading here some of you people are putting more blame on some guy who made a movie rather than the vicious animals who killed the man. That is a very dangerous way to think.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:57 am

The statement trying to calm everything was released hours BEFORE the attack

Well, that’s the sort of thing a lying PoS like Romney would deliberately pretend not to have noticed.

TaxPayer

September 12th, 2012
7:58 am

The needless loss of life is sad. My vengeful streak wants to take that California real estate developer and dump in Libya.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
7:58 am

“Vicious animals.” Yeah, that’s real helpful too, Mystery Meat.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 12th, 2012
8:00 am

ByteMe – “Of course, they have the timeline intentionally wrong. The statement trying to calm everything was released hours BEFORE the attack. So another Romney attack built on lies.”

Or, perhaps Romney is going to base all foreign and military policy on the “Pre-Emptive” theory. Anytime he THINKS something is going to happen, he’ll simply attack and hope for the best. Afterall, that that policy worked so well in Iraq.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
8:00 am

dB – “There are only so many hours in the day one can spend insulting Little Tommy Friedman.”

I though there were 6 more months …

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 12th, 2012
8:00 am

Engage brain, then post repeat.

Jay, had to add the “repeat” so is just not a one time thing.

It is insulting that Romeny is lying again.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 12th, 2012
8:00 am

I too, feel for the families of the dead and hope they will be well soon. I also feel for the perpetrators of this senseless massacre. They are duped into believing in myths. Religion is the worst plague ever perpetrated by man on man. Worship of God should be done by yourself, in quiet peaceful settings, seen only by God. God save us from the religious…please.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
8:01 am

Anyway, I imagine it’ll get a lot worse before it gets better, both here (on this thread) and in what passes for public discourse, and I’m probably not helping things any either.

so I’ll bid a-doo-doo for now.

Joseph

September 12th, 2012
8:02 am

I’m glad Oblama apologized for this….

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 12th, 2012
8:02 am

“t is insulting that Romeny is lying again.”

It is all he knows, but the sad part is, he doesn’t realize he is lying since he has no stance on anything.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:03 am

I’m glad Oblama apologized for this….

Thank you for proving my earlier point, Joseph.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
8:03 am

“I’m glad Oblama apologized for this….”

considering he didn’t, you can blow it out your ear

Jay

September 12th, 2012
8:04 am

Its ME, I don’t think that’s quite right. Nobody excuses the obvious insanity of responding so violently to a movie. It’s brutal and uncivilized. On the other hand, we also know that the likelihood of such a lunatic reaction from that quarter of the world approaches 100 percent.

So why provoke it? Why consciously attempt to start a religious conflict, when any rational person knows that they can quickly get out of hand and end up in the death of innocent people, as this one has? Absolutely, the bulk of the responsibility lies with the idiots who actually did the deed. But let’s not ignore those in our own society who consciously, maliciously provoked it and then try to back away with a “Who, me?”.

stands for decibels

September 12th, 2012
8:05 am

one more thing.

Religion is the worst plague ever perpetrated by man on man.

no. no. no.

Religion is the “binding together” (look up the etymology if you wish) of people by belief. It is neither good nor bad; it is what people do with the power of this thing that is greater than the sum of its parts, that determines what is right and wrong.

People need to be bound together by something. We are not solitary predators, we live in groups, and we evolved to our current semi-enlightened state through enlightened self-interest. Emphasis on the “enlightened” bit.

Which means working together through shared principles and beliefs.

/drive-by, and getting-off-soapbox

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:06 am

But let’s not ignore those in our own society who consciously, maliciously provoked it and then try to back away with a “Who, me?”.

Or those who provoke the insane to do insane things and then uses it to claim that it “proved” his point.

Its ME

September 12th, 2012
8:06 am

OK if not vicious animals how about murderous buffoons. No you probably consider them the victims.

cmac

September 12th, 2012
8:06 am

The wonderful, peace loving religion of Islam is at it again! Thank you Mohammad!

TaxPayer

September 12th, 2012
8:07 am

Speaking by phone from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.

Bacile is hardly an innocent bystander. He’s a hate monger. He knew what impact his hate would have on others far away from his safe location. The least the ass could do is make his movie while residing in Israel and release it there.

Goldie

September 12th, 2012
8:07 am

So sad — religious extremisn in all its forms is never a good result.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 12th, 2012
8:07 am

Yes………..truth is honed with friction—–this is worth a listen if you’re interested in the truth.

“In 2007, General Wesley Clark delivered the below speech in San Francisco at the Commonwealth Club.

Graduating as valedictorian of the class of 1966 at West Point, Clark was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford where he obtained a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics, and later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master’s degree in military science. Supreme Allied Commander Alexander Haig personally selected Clark to serve as a special assistant on his staff, a post he held from February 1978 to June 1979. Once promoted to a full 4-star general, Clark assumed command of USSOUTHCOM in June 1996. He spent 34 years in the Army and the Department of Defense.

In other words, the man knows what goes on.

He now claims America underwent a “policy coup” at the time of the 9/11 attacks. In this video, he reveals that, right after 9/11, he was privy to information contained in a classified memo that the US planned to attack and remove governments in seven countries over five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.

Remember, he delivered this speech in 2007, four years before Gaddafi was overthrown in Libya and turmoil started to develop in Syria…(only 8 minutes).
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http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/09/this-is-what-you-need-to-know-on.html
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You partisons are owned.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 12th, 2012
8:08 am

cmac – “The wonderful, peace loving religion of Islam is at it again!”

And what religion were those “peace loving” fellas from North Georgia that were recently sentenced for wanting to release deadly chemicals in heavily populated areas of Atlanta?

Its ME

September 12th, 2012
8:08 am

“Or those who provoke the insane to do insane things and then uses it to claim that it “proved” his point.”

Thats like when I tell UGA fans their football team is a joke!

Mr. Snarky

September 12th, 2012
8:09 am

Jay is right. The filmmakers didn’t kill anyone, but are shamefully irresponsible nonetheless.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 12th, 2012
8:09 am

It’s not completely about religion.
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Stop the propoganda.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:09 am

Thats like when I tell UGA fans their football team is a joke!

Yes, exactly like that :)

Jay

September 12th, 2012
8:09 am

Personally, I’m good with “vicious animals.”

SGslider

September 12th, 2012
8:10 am

Your buffoon in the WH, (Jay @ 7:30), announces his next appearance on Letterman and tells Israel to go to Hell ; that’s what he does.. . . . Coward

Aquagirl

September 12th, 2012
8:10 am

But let’s not ignore those in our own society who consciously, maliciously provoked it and then try to back away with a “Who, me?”.

I was going to say “heck yeah,” then realized I opined we should turn the region into a glass bowl via the interwebz.

Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:11 am

Damn that religion is tolerant!

Thoughts and prayers go out to the families.

Off topic, I heard Obama skipped out on meeting with the Israeli Prime Minister b/c he was too busy campaigning. Priorities people!!!

Ivan

September 12th, 2012
8:11 am

So glad we have a First Amendment here in our country. And shame on those enticing further violent behavior to those exercising it.

Paul

September 12th, 2012
8:11 am

“Libyan Deputy Prime Minister Mustafa Abushagur…I condemn these barbaric acts in the strongest possible terms. This is an attack on America, Libya and free people everywhere,” Abushagur said on Twitter”

The leadership are ahead of those they’re attempting to lead. One of their greatest challenges will be to change the attitudes of hatred and bigotry demonstrated by their citizens.

As we can see on this very blog and in our own advanced country, that is no easy task.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 12th, 2012
8:11 am

SGslider – “Your buffoon in the WH, (Jay @ 7:30), announces his next appearance on Letterman and tells Israel to go to Hell ; that’s what he does.. . . . Coward”

So what’s your solution genius?

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:11 am

he was privy to information contained in a classified memo that the US planned to attack and remove governments in seven countries over five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.

That was indeed the neo-con plan hatched by Cheney and his crew. Only the first country happened and the US people (and Bush) figured out that they weren’t being well-served by that policy. After that, the US has been responding entirely to internal tensions and civil war in those countries and did not “attack” them.

So what?

Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:12 am

Its ME
September 12th, 2012
8:08 am

Just curious – who do you root for? And be honest.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:12 am

I heard Obama skipped out on meeting with the Israeli Prime Minister b/c he was too busy campaigning

You heard wrong. Check your facts.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
8:12 am

“Off topic, I heard Obama skipped out on meeting with the Israeli Prime Minister b/c he was too busy campaigning. Priorities people!!!”

No Peadawg. In reality, Obama has refused to meet him because said prime minister was being a jerk.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

September 12th, 2012
8:12 am

Stands,
I stand by my original statement.

Mark

September 12th, 2012
8:13 am

@Butch Cassidy (I)

September 12th, 2012
8:08 am

Excellent example!

Adam

September 12th, 2012
8:14 am

Romney’s response to this was just… ugh. Blaming Obama for a statement from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and acting like Obama “sympathized” with the protesters.

That is just ugly.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:14 am

If it’s illegal to call in a bomb threat to a movie theater, why is this pathetic movie — which was an attempt to incite violence in another part of the world — legal?

JamVet

September 12th, 2012
8:15 am

Joseph, rc, It’s me and cmac, the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim, right?

No need to equivocate…

Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:15 am

Jay
September 12th, 2012
8:12 am

So Obama’s taking his ball and going to Ohio. :lol:

Madmax

September 12th, 2012
8:15 am

I think that the notion that this was random violence to the movie is a ruse. The fact that it was 9/11 and that the attacks occurred in two differnent countries at approximately the same time under new regimes should give some credence to the possibility that these were centrally orchestrated. To blame it on a “few radicals” is a naive and dangerous response.

Mark

September 12th, 2012
8:16 am

@ Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:11 am
Damn that religion is tolerant!

Thoughts and prayers go out to the families.

Off topic, I heard Obama skipped out on meeting with the Israeli Prime Minister b/c he was too busy campaigning. Priorities people!!!

Another misinformed conservative making another idiotic statment. Check your facts!

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:16 am

Joseph, rc, It’s me and cmac, the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim, right?

CHRISTIAN CALIPHATE FOR EVAH!!

:(

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
8:16 am

“Obama has refused to meet him because said prime minister was being a jerk.”

it would be nice if someone actually DID call Bibi a jerk … he always has been …

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 12th, 2012
8:16 am

I hear the filmmaker is in hiding. What a wuss.

Jay

September 12th, 2012
8:16 am

Madmax, I’d say that’s a strong possibility, even probability.

Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:17 am

You’re a big poo poo head so I’m not going to meet with you!!!

Are we 5 now, Jay?

Adam

September 12th, 2012
8:17 am

No Peadawg. In reality, Obama has refused to meet him because said prime minister was being a jerk.

Ha! That probably explains the later statement from him that the U.S. needs to say exactly what would cause Obama to hit the big red button on Iran.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
8:17 am

“The fact that it was 9/11 and that the attacks occurred in two differnent countries at approximately the same time under new regimes should give some credence to the possibility that these were centrally orchestrated.”

they don’t have to be centrally orchestrated for them to use 9/11 – just sayin

Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:18 am

Mark
September 12th, 2012
8:16 am

Another person who automatically ASSumes I’m a conservative just b/c I don’t with you.

Peadawg

September 12th, 2012
8:18 am

don’t agree with you****

ByteMe - Got ilk?

September 12th, 2012
8:19 am

Peadawg, from TPM:

We have a high-octane tussle tonight between the White House and the Netanyahu government in Israel. It started with a Netanyahu speech suggesting that the US had lost its “moral right” to block an Israeli attack on Iran by failing to put red lines beyond which Iran couldn’t go.

That was followed by a leak from Netanyahu’s team claiming that Netanyahu had requested a meeting with Obama when he travels to the UN – only to be refused. The White House scrambled tonight putting out a flat denial of that claim. In essence, the White House called the Israelis liars.

Obama called Bibi after that as well to take the whole thing down a notch, because he doesn’t want there to be any appearance of separation on the Iran question.

Ivan

September 12th, 2012
8:20 am

“I think that the notion that this was random violence to the movie is a ruse. The fact that it was 9/11 and that the attacks occurred in two differnent countries at approximately the same time under new regimes should give some credence to the possibility that these were centrally orchestrated. To blame it on a “few radicals” is a naive and dangerous response.”

Agreed.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

September 12th, 2012
8:20 am

If it’s illegal to call in a bomb threat to a movie theater, why is this pathetic movie — which was an attempt to incite violence in another part of the world — legal?

American laws don’t apply outside US borders.

Adam

September 12th, 2012
8:20 am

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September 12th, 2012
8:21 am

American laws don’t apply outside US borders

So… wait… if I call in a bomb threat on a theater in Canada, that’s no illegal? That can’t be right.