Romney claims Obama sympathizes with attack on U.S.

What a loathsome thug, this Romney creep.

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The Republican party, utterly bankrupted in the sphere of ideas, has absolutely nothing left but to exploit the most cynical means to close the minds of anyone who’ll listen and any potential voter by spewing ludicrously cartoonish oversimplifications and misleading conclusions for any given issue.

They have NOTHING.

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Matthew 5:39-”But I say to you, do not resist a evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.” I challenge the christian zealots to practice what they preach. Show some love.

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It would seem to me that an apology is in order from former Gov. Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus, Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens and others who made such an unfounded charge at such a delicate time.

Ha! Dream on! Apologies are for people who can admit their errors and for whom “truth” is important. These guys just want to win, because winners can re-write history to suit themselves.

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“jay jay jay. you of all people should know that facts mean nothing to these morally bankrupt buggers.”

word.

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“The truth is whatever people will believe is the truth. Don’t you know history?”
Joseph Heller

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Maybe Obama should be attending his intelligence briefings. Instead of golfing.

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No, what was actually “sad and pathetic” was seeing Mr. Priebus trying to hush a bunch of goons in the crowd at his party’s convention who were jeering a woman trying to present with chants of “U-S-A” for the simple reason that she spoke in accented English.

#TodaysRepublicansForYou

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And of course the leaders of the party of angry old white men seize on any opportunity to promote an invasion of the country that was responsible for the terrorist attacks. Oops. Never mind. Another flashback to the Bush invasion of Iraq. Or was it McCain’s hidden desires regarding Iran. What’s the difference.

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This is Grade A desperation by the GOP. They will stoop to any level of lie to win the White House. If it wasn’t so sad, I’d laugh out loud.

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His campaign is over.
Hang him for treason.
America is tired of treasonous cons.

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Obama foreign policy (lead from behind aka be weak) does not look very effective at all.

Jm, if you want to police the world, I’ll reiterate someone’s earlier statement…the recruiting station is ready when you are.

Or maybe we can impress our military members for life so they never set foot on American soil again because you advocate someone else go out there and defend your outraged pen!$.

I’m betting you pick option B. Option “C” where we elect someone with a magical mind control machine isn’t really on the table, except in Crazyland. Which is where a lot of war hawks reside.

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These remarks are from a leader of a political party that has tried (and been successful, at times) to spin truth as it has desired truth to be perceived by an unaware public, not as truth actually is. I predict that the American people will see through this despicable political tactic. Enough of Republican political warping of the truth.
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Here are President Obama’s words (given at the DNC last week) regarding his role as Commander-in-Chief, as he sees that role:

“As Commander-in-Chief, I will never hesitate to defend this nation, but I will only send our troops into harm’s way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home.

I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts. But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression. I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease. And I will restore our moral standing, so that America is once again that last, best hope for all who are called to the cause of freedom, who long for lives of peace, and who yearn for a better future.”

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And maybe Obama should work on fixing the deficit and economy instead of learning to play cards.

Because an America with a weak domestic economy cannot be a strong proponent of freedom abroad.

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Chhom, boys, we got em right where we want em, dont we? Choom Choom . . . Lemme get out from under this desk, er, golf cart, er . . . somebody go get the secretary of state to say something . . .

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If Romney won’t run his campaign by checking facts, why should we expect him to base his foreign policy on checking facts?

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If we intercept Sheldon Adelson’s messages, we can probably predict what Mitt’s response will be before he even knows.

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“Things do not seem to be going well at all in the ME, in particular in Egypt which has a population of 80 million

Iran plugs along

Russia is undermining us across the globe

And in Asia, Japan and China seem inclined to resort to military means over a couple of islands

Obama foreign policy (lead from behind aka be weak) does not look very effective at all.”

Maybe you could tell us all how you and Mittens would handle any of these situations any differently, and what you expect the outcome would be? If you want us to vote for Mittens, you have to tell us what he would do differently, and how that would be better.

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Mitt is disgusting and can’t even talk about this region and what is needed in diplomacy…he will suck as a commander in chief. He is politsizinf the deaths of four Americans.

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He is sticking ti his sick attack on our President.

Pathetic.

The media is blasting him.

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Obozo’s college roomate stated that Obozo is a devout muslim. We should send a barage of missiles as our response. Mitt is spot on.

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Back on topic.

Hasn’t it occurred to those who buy into the Right’s rhetoric that the first statement “as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”

and the second “The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others”

is a direct slap on Muslim radicals and the governments who condone them?

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My bet is that IF he apologizes at all it will be a “non-apology apology”

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This is nothing short of pure jackassery of the most vile vintage. The fact that anybody would try to justify this completely flawed logic should have their head examined for missing colon parts.

For a presidential candidate to push such bull, he should be called out for the liar he is. Instead, we will endure contortions of

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The RNC and Romney campaign see this as a political opportunity to be exploited. Telling that it was their first instinct.

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Ben, Air Iran is ready when you are.

You’ll be in good company there…

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These goons don’t fear us. They know we will do nothing in retaliation because we are so politically correct and afraid of hurting someone’s feelings, we just issue meaningless platitudes when we should be issuing ultimatums with lines in the sand. These Muslim fanatics understand one thing….. power and the ability to use it. There comes a time when it’s time to stop taking this crap from a bunch of religious zealots intent on destroying the Great Satan. It is surprising how much their resolve disappears when they fear for their lives and the consequences of their actions. Gadaffi is a great example.

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Were you namejacked?

No. Not being a Mormon though, I was just wondering if Mormons were constrained by that “not bearing false witness thingy”.

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religion is the root of all evil.

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The right of free speech
allows and encourages
individuals to point out
the fallacies or praise any
religion. The US Government
does not have this right.

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rockfish

“We should send a barage of missiles as our response.”

What are the specific targets?

Ben

“like all liberals, thinks”

You’re repeating the same style from one thread to the next.

Have any original thoughts?

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How much more lies can Romney spit outta his mouth? It is plainly obvious that he will say ANYTHING to get elected. How can he be trusted by either party? Is he really the best the Republican’t could come up with? What a joke.

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getalife: He is not my president!

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” We should send a barage of missiles as our response. ”

Dumb idea. And Mitt didn’t suggest that.

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Dear Paul @ 10:27, fair question. The loathsome Bill Clinton at least had the yarbles to loft an occasional bomb at the enemies. The attacks on the embassies in Libya and Egypt may have been a good time to use predators on the mobs.

As to your suggestion on cutting off the money, why would we cease giving money to governments who tolerate attacks on our embassies?

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“religion is the root of all evil.”

Gee liz…Barack Obama claims to be a Christian, attended Christian churches, and has stated hat he accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior. I guess Obama is evil too????

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How ANY American veteran could vote for that pusillanimous (since willie liked it so much!) pig, Mitt “I’ll say ANYTHING to get a few more votes” Romney, is beyond me.

A disgusting traitor.

getalife, as Supertramp sang, “It’s hard not to agree..”

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Look at what Jay wrote downstairs in a comment:

What we have over there are fools eager to overreact to the slightest provocation.

And we have some right here at home equally eager to do the same thing.

Looks like Jay is among the eager now!

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Truthiness worked on the “You didn’t build that” matter. The R base will certainly believe the idea Obama sympathizes with the attackers; they still believe he’s Muslim himself. (We all know religion is genetic.) What the Rs hope is that if they say it often enough, loudly enough, they can propel a few outside the base to go to the polls in disgust at Obama despite their lack of enthusiasm for Mitt.

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kayaker 71 – “These goons don’t fear us. They know we will do nothing in retaliation”

Not so fast. Obama may decide to follow the Bush playbook and invade Mexico in response.

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“getalife: He is not my president!”

Please leave then.

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“The charge that an American president sympathizes with those who attacked this country should not be made easily. In fact, under the circumstances it is a charge that should not have been made at all.”

Serious question for right-leaning posters: Does this give you confidence that Romney would mane a good President? Does this give you any apprehension at all about his qualifications? (Plz – no “but Obama…” responses – just your hinest opinion).

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Jay,

I don’t really care what Obama or Romney said and think that is irrelevant except to those red and blue sheepish blinded followers of either party to have more negative fodder..

I see the real issue as a foreign policy that has failed in its simple, alledged objective…to improve our image among other countries…in other words, trying to be everything to everybody..the balance of the Middle East excepting a few minor players have and still hate us..all the trillions spent in Iraq and Afghanistan are wasted since we got no oil payback from Iraq and Afghanistan is surging back to old Taliban ways…

Until we decide that we need to keep our noses out of other countries tents as opposed to feeling like we need to evangelically spread the democracy thing like a baptist TV show, nothing will change…

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“The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Sounds to me like he’s gonna side with the Muslims if it gets ugly.

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Good morning JamVet @ 10:37, perhaps we can agree that Obama’s response has been somewhat less substantive than was that of the Horndog?

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Obama 2008 – “we need to unconditionally engage Iran and North Korea” (I paraphrase)

Foreign policy is also part of the political game, like it or not

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In what context was Romney’s statement made. Can we have the whole quote please?

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excerpt from his apology tour in Turkey

We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country……

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JamVet @ 10:37…

He also killed 80-some innocent Americans at the Branch davidian compund in Waco, TX. Don’t forget about that.

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ragnar

“The attacks on the embassies in Libya and Egypt may have been a good time to use predators on the mobs.”

Do you see how that would play right into the radicals’ hands? “Muslims defend Islam against slander, Americans kill them with Hellfire missiles”

“As to your suggestion on cutting off the money, why would we cease giving money to governments who tolerate attacks on our embassies?”

Wasn’t a suggestion, was noted as a likely course of action, to be initiated by the Republican House, who will argue funds not directly related to the welfare of the people should be eliminated.

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Michael,

Couldn’t agree more…since early beginnings, religion has poisoned everything it touches at some point in some way…zealots here, zealots there….everywhere a zealot..

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USinUK – thug with a uterus … and former Girl Scout

“The koran says is is prefectly ok to lie and use whatever means to “infiltrate” the infidels so that those who will not convert can be slaughtered. ”

and the bible says the same – it says non-believers should be killed, as well –

so, I’ll wait for you to start condemning christians now …

You are incorrect about the Bible. No where in the New Testament does it call for Christians to kill anyone. No where.

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liz, your hatred of Christians is duly noted. Thank for your honesty. Do you have anything else to add to the discussion?

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“The koran says is is prefectly ok to lie and use whatever means to “infiltrate” the infidels so that those who will not convert can be slaughtered. ”

Rockfish since you are an expert on the Koran would you tell us what it says about Jesus?

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Well, I just wonder about these people that call theirselfs J. Christopher Stevens or E. Throckmorton Sanger and stuff like that. Their parents must of give them a really filthy first name for them not to want to use them. I wonder why they use the initial at all. If they’re ashamed of the first name then they need to get rid of it in court or at least don’t give its initial. All I can figure is it sounds snooty and stuck-up and people that use initials like that must want other people to think they’re high class or rich or something.

I know this don’t have much to do with Bookman’s point, but this thing’s been bugging the cr@p out of me all my life and I just had to come out with it sorta like somebody’s been stopped up all their life and finally gets a chance to let it all blow out and fills up a whole bathroom.

So I’ll just sign off by saying just call me R. Convert. Have a good Hump Day everybody.

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Why is it that the left is more distressed by the criticism of conservatives than by the murderous attack by the practitioners of the Religion of Peace you prevaricate so much?

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4 Americans dead at the hands of those we helped free…and we’re being critical of Romney ?

got it!

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“Why is it that the left is more distressed by the criticism of conservatives than by the murderous attack by the practitioners of the Religion of Peace?”

I’ll take a stab at that one…

Because they are morons.

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Jhunt163

September 12th, 2012
10:34 am
“ the U.S. embassy in Cairo tries to calm things Tuesday morning with a statement “

So you are saying this was not the first official US response???

Jhunt163 – The word “response” means it has to come AFTER the event you’re responding to, not before – got it?

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“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country……”

and it has – it was the Islamic world that was at the forefront of medicine and discovery (despite the Catholic church trying to destroy all their studies) … in fact, IIRC, the idea for the cure to small pox (injecting some of the virus under the skin) was initially discovered in Turkey

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http://www.experiment-resources.com/islamic-medicine.html

shoot – forgot the linkee

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Yes Ragnar, I do recall Reagan launched a few shells into Lebanon, pulled the Marines off land onto boats and then punished Iran for their sponsorship of Hezbollah and the tension they fomented by selling arms to them.

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That’s great and all about Romney’s response, Jay, but tell me: Why did the State Dept let the Cairo embassay release that statement in the first place? Don’t things have to go through the State Department for pronouncements like that or are they free to send out whatever they want? Sounds to me like bad management.

And….what is Obama going to do about this besides write a letter condemning the perps? Isn’t attacking another country’s embassy and killing it’s members an act of war? What’s Obama going to do about this?…That’s the question that needs to be asked.

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Leading from behind…never understood that phrase….except to the extent that the view never changes…in BO’s case, it’s nonsense and whatever it means (as opposed to having no backbone in most major decisions of this presidency) is clearly not winning friends and influencing people.

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Talk about depraved!

Rockfish actually wrote that 10:32????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS is a perfect example of the anti-American fervor that has made the GOP so toxic.

I excoriated GWB endlessly, but I would NEVER, EVER<,EVER have written that he was not my president.

The guy is sick with a capital S…

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ragnar

Given your 10:43, I’d be surprised if you were an advisor to anyone.

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Perhaps we can agree that Obama’s response in Egypt and Libya has been as flaccid.

Ragnar,

Out of curiosity, what is your recommended response?

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Ben Shockley

September 12th, 2012
10:41 am
JamVet @ 10:37…

“He also killed 80-some innocent Americans at the Branch davidian compund in Waco, TX. Don’t forget about that.”

And Rush said he was fat! That has nothing to do with anything, too!

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He is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.

As Jonathan Alter said last night on some show: it’s “beneath contempt”.

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Rockfish 10:32

You walked right into that buzzsaw

That was a dumb statement

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The Obama foreighn policy continues to prevail with total unrest in many parts of the world with genncide carried on. The Attacks on Egypt and now Libya should be viewed as attacks on the USA and if not, very close, to acts of war. But lets defend Barry Soetoro aka Obama and his bow down foreign policy and kissing up to muslims while Egypt, Syria, Liby, Iran and others are in trumoil and the muslim’s take over with genocide….yeo the same policy good old jimmy followed…next on the horizen is trumoil in the USA..wait..see Chicago..it is here. Damn, there is that tinglely feeling down the leg for Obama again…by th way Jay, see Chamberlain just prior to WWI…same philosphy of your loving buddy Barry..sad, damn sad

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He and his staff have failed that test.

He’s with good company then…right beside Obama

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LIZ,

Amen to that…it’s aburd the level of interference…with tax free cash…separation of church and state eh?

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Guess we just can’t allow criticism of mohammad.

Did someone block Ben from releasing his own movie about Islam.

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romney blamed America.

I thought he would correct this blame this morning but failed.

Then he said we should not allow the Arab Spring to turn to Arab winter.

What in the world does that mean?

Dumber than w.

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Jay, you need to anable some type of polling functionality on your blog. It would be a hoot to ask your lib parrots which is more dangerous, Christianity or islam.

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Desperation and a knowledge that some in this country will take him at his, not so strong, word. The Republicans live in a soap opera world, what is bad for the country is good for Republican ratings which they desperately need. To exercise the emotions of this country in this time crisis is irresponsible and shows a huge lack of maturity, respect and greed on the part of a half baked candidate and his loosely organized shadow of a political party.

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USinUK:

and the bible says the same – it says non-believers should be killed, as well –

Please give me a New Testamant reference. I doubt you even own a Bible–much less have read it. The Old Testament is about the “ites” attacking Israel BTW.

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JAY,

I guess this is the negative back in forth of the day…and will change zero minds about who will vote for whom….those who already made up their minds who to vote for (all on this site) will defend anything their side stands for…however absurd…

Neither one of them have any real leadership skills to get much done…if Romney is elected, he will simply piss off the folks BO didn’t piss off ..

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CJ

“Ragnar,

Out of curiosity, what is your recommended response?”

As you can see from the 10:53, the answer is “criticize Obama.”

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It looks like the GOP is trying to ‘Hone the Sword of Truth with Fiction’ (as a cheap play on Jay’s earlier topic).

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Ben Shockley:

You are a wise man, sir.

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Rags

Egypt and Libya imo are going to be very “testy” for the US.

Of course, we did not intervene in Egypt. We watched the people and then the military turn on the government until it was no more.

We did intervene in Libya, which quickened the pace of what went on in Egypt. I am not so sure we should have intervened in Libya, however I assume that NATO thought it would lead to less deaths had we not intervened.

While I would agree that a percentage of the people wanting to topple the government in the ME are not for freedom, but in some cases for a more stricter regime than is in place, I’m not sure if the US should step in to prop up dictators.

Of course, the US has done just that for many years and it has certainly came with mixed results. Our foreign policy at times, seems to bite us in the @ss.

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ROCKFISH,

What about the Old (I’m the only God and the like) Testiment?

I read this one and my most memorable take away was all the “begetting” that seemed to consume an inordinate amount of space…

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Mitt is right. The policy of the current administration towards the Muslim world has not worked. They are an evil empire and that is all there is to it.
Diplomacy with Muslims is wasted rhetoric.
We have just had a commeneration of the 9-11 on the World trade Center and this latest act of violence proves the attitudes of the Middle East has not changed.

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Matthew 5:44-”But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”

Have a blessed day and don’t forget to pray for your enemies.

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“Peggy Noonan phrases it delicately for her Fox listeners: “I don’t think Romney has done himself any favors” in using this situation so aggressively.”

holy moses … Romney lost the Nooners???

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I think Ragnar is suggesting we re-invade Grenada to flex our might to the world.

Please articulate your suggested “Reagan” like response.

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Newby

“Does it mean anything that no conservative poster has attempted to justify Romney’s remarks?”

Yeah, it means things are normal on Jay’s blog.

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“Isn’t attacking another country’s embassy and killing it’s members an act of war?”

Verbal- You first.
Newt, Dick, Rush, Saxby, Stateside George, and Mitt will be right behind you. I promise.

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BEN,

There exists an little diddy called EMTALA which means they have to treat you..unless you are an insititution (like federally run facilities) that don’t take Medicare etcetera..

I think Liz is safe and if she is turned away because she thinks religion is a joke, they will pay a settlement of substantial value per case law on this issue…

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Quite a lot going on. Would be interesting to hear your take, Jay, on the latest gambit by Bibi to manufacture a political rift here to his advantage, and Obama’s response.

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Just a continuation of the world-wide apology tour – the leftists are madder at Romney for criticizing than they are at the mobs for killing.

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One perceives that the leftists intend to conceal Fearless Leader’s cowardice by criticizing the political opposition.

Ragnar being the “one” with the failed powers of perception, that is.

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BEN,

My bad…I misread your statement which suggests Liz will refuse treatment…:-) why she would do that defies logic but I retract comment about EMTALA..

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Give Reagan credit for his laser-like focus on wiping out the larger threat.

Incredible.

The man armed every right wing dictator known and assisted in the murders of untold numbers of innocent people around the world, all because of the McCarthites demented RED SCARE!!!!

Tricky Dick, who knew MUCH more about these matters than the B-Grade actor. noted that a) Regan was mentally lacking and b) that he got way too much credit for the fall of the Soviet Union.

But not in the neocon’s made up Lalaland, where Ronnie walked on water!

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“Anti-Islam filmmaker in hiding after protests”

http://www.floridatoday.com/usatoday/article/57755100?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|p

romney’s friend.

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USinUK – thug with a uterus … and former Girl Scout

September 12th, 2012
10:49 am
“You are incorrect about the Bible. No where in the New Testament does it call for Christians to kill anyone. No where.”

oh … so the Old Testament (you know, the one the Right constantly uses to justify gay bashing) DOESN’T count in this particular case??? I mean, considering the love affair the right has with selected laws of Leviticus, I thought the Old Testament laws were still in play …

In the OT God did command the Israeli’s to kill the inhabitants of the Promised Land so they wouldn’t be influenced by their false religious beliefs. However, if you note, this was limited to only those inhabitants of the Promised Land. It was not a carte blanch sanction to wipe out or kill anyone you disagree with. I make no apology for that. It’s God’s Word.

Regarding the gay comment…..homosexuality is condemned in the NT as well. However, the admonition against killing anyone remains.

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“holy moses … Romney lost the Nooners???”

Romney yet again gives the far right red meat, his supporters here sure are eating it up.

Romney should have kept his mouth shut on this one. If he felt he just had to make a statement it should have been to offer condolences to those we lost who were serving our country.

Of course next week the Red Meat Society will blame the “liberal media” and the “biased polls” to explain Romney falling even further behind.

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These war hawks piece of scum are itchy to send poor, middle class to war, to attack the President of the United States shows what time of Commander and Chief Mitt the scum will make.

I wish these hypocrites were outraged and had concern before 911 maybe we would not have lost 3500 Americans under the Rep watch, President Obama has a record of killing terrorist Mitt the scum does not, end of story””””

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“In the OT God did command the Israeli’s to kill the inhabitants of the Promised Land so they wouldn’t be influenced by their false religious beliefs. However, if you note, this was limited to only those inhabitants of the Promised Land. It was not a carte blanch sanction to wipe out or kill anyone you disagree with”

so are we to take it, then, that it’s OK for Christians to ben influenced by false religious beliefs every where else?

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ragnar danneskjold :

Thank you.

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Why don’t we sacrifice this movie producer to the enraged masses in the Middle East? I think we could get back to at least shakey ground again????

Don’t monotheists like to sacrifice things at the alter???

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christian zealots and muslim extremists are two peas in the same pod.

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They BOTH suck:

Your point adds nothing.

WHY ……… did Thomas Jefferson buy a copy of the Koran ?

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Mitt is right. The policy of the current administration towards the Muslim world has not worked. They are an evil empire and that is all there is to it. Diplomacy with Muslims is wasted rhetoric.

Right.

What we desperately need to do is invade the wrong Islamic country – botching it every step of the way, getting 5,000 Americans killed needlessly, tens of thousands more wounded and maimed horrifically and lie, steal and cheat American taxpayers out of trillions of dollars to do all of it.

Yet, that should show ‘em!

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I think Libyans will come to realize that a hero of Libyan freedom was killed by religious extremists .

It would be a wise move for Libyan government to express this fact.

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“In the OT God did command the Israeli’s to kill the inhabitants of the Promised Land so they wouldn’t be influenced by their false religious beliefs. However, if you note, this was limited to only those inhabitants of the Promised Land. It was not a carte blanch sanction to wipe out or kill anyone you disagree with. I make no apology for that. It’s God’s Word.”

it says in Leviticus, 2 Chronicles, Isaiah (can never spell that right), Deuteronomy, Exodus, AND Jeremiah to kill those who don’t believe in the Lord.

as for the new testament – nowhere does JESUS say anything about homosexuality …

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Now Mitt the flip flopper like some of Obama care, but when he was running in the primary he hated all of Obama care, how can a party back this idiot, real Americans will put Obama in office by landslide, only people who are misinformed will back this hypocrite.

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I truly think the Republican Party is so out of the rhythm of this country, like a movie star who can’t stop staring at themselves in a mirror long enough to realize where they are. The pool of support for Romney is getting thinner and thinner as people equate supporting Romney is not supporting this country in a time of need. And they don’t believe Romney’s primous that it is OK to get a divorce from your country, to chase after the gold digger. A Republican theme is to leave your spouse on the death bed for another, that is not an American theme nor will it ever be.

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From a friend this morning :

“Libya, Libya…, oh yes, I seem to remember. Aren’t they the peace loving freedom fighters that the US and NATO supported by bombing the doo-doo out of Mr. Qaddafi’s guys which ultimately led to his demise? And, aren’t those the same Egyptian peace loving freedom fighters that my State Department supported in their ouster of Mr. Mubarak? You think our president could have made a mistake? Perhaps more apologies are in order.”

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holy moses … Romney lost the Nooners???

Maybe Ann has a headache around lunchtime every day.

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I’m sorry, did someone on this thread just say we should ask for a declaration of war against Libya?

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“as for the new testament – nowhere does JESUS say anything about homosexuality …”

By reading and teaching the Word of God. In the OT, “They will burn as fagots.”

fagot–A bundle of sticks and branches bound together

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reagan cut and ran from Beirut.

Is that what rag is talking about.

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Mr. Digits

Makes ya’ wonder what the British aristocracy was saying about
us good old americans in the mid to late 1700’s.

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What do you expect from a guy who calls his own grandfather a “house ni**er” and an Uncle Tom in his own book?

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liz

September 12th, 2012
11:12 am

“christian zealots and muslim extremists are two peas in the same pod.”

Not intended to be a factual statement.

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Hey Obama created four (4) more jobs! Spread the word.

Mitt preempted him.

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Google Sam Bacile cons and learn something.

Afghanistan blocks YouTube until his movie is taken down.

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Do we rally care what 3 times adultery Newt says? only people in Georgia care about this loser, could anyone imagine if 911 had happen under Obama watch? the poor men would even be allowed to finish office.

McCain, Mitt, Newt, love to send our kids off to war while there sons take it easy on the islands, poor, middle class conservatives whites can not be this dumb””””’

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No matter what you do to try to improve a pig, its still a pig. You cannot defend Obozo, he has no idea how to lead and everything he touches turns to crap. If we have him for 4 more years, we are doomed as a free nation.

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This episode perfectly illustrates how the next two months are going to be absolutely brutal for Mitt and his minions.

Great comedy for the rest of us, though…

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The policy of the current administration towards the Muslim world has not worked. They are an evil empire …

Just, wow.

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Ben Shockley:

““christian zealots and muslim extremists are two peas in the same pod.”

Not intended to be a factual statement.”

Ben:

One can find a few so called “Christians” today who because of either an insane or depraved mind commit a savage crime in the name of Christ. However, I personally know of no incident where they did so while shouting “in the name of Jesus”.

However, murderous Radical Islam is a world-wide movement of millions and millions …………. and therein lies the difference that we ignore at our peril.

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God is one sick mofo. She could’ve avoided all this with a little more clarity.

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They BOTH suck:

And he discovered just like Spencer that they couldn’t be negotiated with.

Thus …………. the Marines.

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Are we better off today then 4 years ago? for all you Obama haters ask bin ladin and his terrorist friends””””’

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As the cons continue to blame America like their leader, they are searching for the murderers as I type.

Egypt’s military is at the US embassy in Cairo.

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Scout

Yes I would agree that there is a percentage of folks who are of the Muslim faith that are very radical. I would add that there is even a percentage that probably wouldn’t do any harm to the US or US interests but are sympathizers or even apathetic one way or another.

With that said, those folks are nowhere near the majority of the 1.5B Muslims in the world. If they were, we would be in real chaos daily, even in the US.

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Mitt and his minions.

I prefer to think of his followers as Mitt’s mutts. Lookin’ forward to their next rooftop joyride.

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Nothing would make me happier or prouder than for Obama to prove me wrong, and to show us he does not sympathize with the attackers. I fear we will get nothing but words.

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One can find a few so called “Christians” today who because of either an insane or depraved mind commit a savage crime in the name of Christ.

Once again, primarily because we liberals and progressives cut the balls off of the arch-conservative, far right wing, religious zealots in the United States of America. The Baptist-fed Klan for example, is a mere shadow of what they once were. No more terrorizing blacks, homosexuals and Jews, thank you.

The murderers, lynchers and torturers of the 1960s have been squashed by the power of sanity and morality in this awesome secular nation.

And we will never allow the religious nutjobs to take us back to those times.

Though Falwell, Robertson, et al, ad nauseum are/were desperately trying…

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rag,

Ask obl and aq if our President is a sympathizer.

Stop blaming America cons and show some patriotism.

Pathetic.

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Obama’s first priority was to become a 1%. He was successful at that.

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the cat

September 12th, 2012
11:34 am
Their families dont read the AJC!

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Looks like JamVet hates Christians too.

Maybe you and liz could hook up. I think Bush’s perscription drug plan for seniors covers viagra.

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I fear we will get nothing but words.

Words like bin laden is dead or words like the excuses given by Bush and Company as to why they could not or would not pursue bin laden. Funny thing about words.

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Vote obama: You were dumb enough to fall for it last time!

Liar, but you and the rest of us already know that.

And NO defense of your concoward from Mass? For uttering that absolutely disgusting AND idiotic statement???

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Methinks you will have to hold your nose when you vote for him!

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Ben Shockley

What Obama should have done was let terrorist come to your back yard, I mean you hate the President of the United States as same as them, you and the right are our inside terrorist, ask those victims of 911 does he like muslim terrorist.

What part of the rock do you people crawl out of ?

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LEAN FORWARD. O,bama is leaning so far forward he’s gonna fall flat on his face. I know, I know, the Democrats never say anything derogatory about the other party. I honestly beleve no matter who is elected we heading for some hard times. I’m so sick of it all.

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Gotta be really careful what you say about those Muslim dudes: They’ll huff and they’ll puff and they’ll blow (burn) your house down. And getting upset over a phrase instead of the deed is exactly what you’d expect from our host and his liberal compatriots.

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@ Brosephus “This is nothing short of pure jackassery of the most vile vintage.”…this pretty much describes Mitten’s entire campaign. Romney (not Russia) is our nation’s biggest geopolitical threat and liability.

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Wow:

This on Romney’s big foreign policy moment:

“Bungle… utter disaster…not ready for prime time… not presidential… Lehman moment.” And that’s just the Republicans. (from Ben Smith)

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A couple of points:

1) Should a better, immediate evacuation plan for the Consulate have been in place?

2) Should an adequate number of Marines been availble at the Consulate for security to start with?

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Since when is it the State Department’s job to “condemn” the continuing efforts of “misguided individuals” to “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims?” Or to “condemn” anyone for their criticism of a religious point of view? If that’s not sympathizing with the Muslim protesters (protests were already occurring BEFORE they arrived at the embassy. I don’t know what is. What is the U.S. government critiquing movies now? Are they going to condemn Trey Parker and Matt Stone next?? Give it a rest.

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Knowing this will get me on the sh-t list again with you libs. Changing topic for just a moment, “Chicago teachers in union strike for third day”. Their average salary is $77,000 yearly. State should tell them to return to work or be fired and replaced. Just like Reagan did with air-traffic controllers! But I forget that this is Chicago, where Barrack and Rahm Emanuel comes from. Oh just forget it and raise the property owner’s taxes and give them what they want. That is the Democratic way. Or maybe they could send in Gov Christy, NJ, to handle it?

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Mark Halperin, a barometer of the political establishment’s attitudes, called this the “most craven” and “ill-advised move” of the 2012 campaign.

It’s just remarkable to see Romney unravel like this. Within hours of learning that a respected U.S. ambassador had been killed by a violent mob overseas, the Republican’s first instinct was to launch a partisan campaign attack against the president. It came after a dishonest smear of the president last night — on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, when Romney said he’d refrain from such attacks.

Grab the bagels, the Romney smear is there for sensible people who are not conned to see.

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Jay
September 12th, 2012
11:38 am

Notably, I haven’t seen any GOP leaders in Congress come to Romney’s defense in this.

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Have any politicians came out and supported the original statement released by the Embassey?
The same statement Romney Was critical of.

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Thank God Obama will get 60% of women vote, and 85% of non white males.
The rest of the fox misinformed viewers white angry conservatives male will have to swallow 4 more years.

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Perhaps the cons need to be thinking about passing the collection plate so they can afford to invade another country. IOU’s just don’t pay the bills. Either that or they could do it the old fashioned way and provide their own weapons and ammunition when they enlist to serve the country and protect its honor from those killers over in Libya..

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Further options:

1) Create a new entity in the State Department called the “Bureau of Muslim Sensitivities” to immediately grovel regarding anything negative that is said about Islam by anyone anywhere in
the known world.

or ………………….

2) Retaliate by storming their embassies here and making everyone eat a bacon cheeseburger.

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Draft dodger hannity had the nerve to question Biden’s pronunication of “corpsman” in a speech yesterday. Did hannity ever serve any where other than his fat mouth?

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Knowing this will get me on the sh-t list again with you libs.

Whatever floats your boat.

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williebkind- You are not talking about liberal kids for sure–right! Liberals go to college and get government jobs

Very well said. The people who always make that claim don’t have any skin in the game either.

PS: Remind me again of the great military service history of the obama family?

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Has Romney/Ryan backtracked their statements yet today? Get ready, it’s bound to happen!

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Sad and pathetic… We’ve been attacked on sovereign soil and all Mittens and his ilks can do is blame America and the President…

Why do wingnut ilks hate America so much????

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JKLw writes:
PS: Remind me again of the great military service history of the obama family?

Do you really want to go there or should we AGAIN post the long and extensive list of the draft dodgers of the current republican party and their mouthpieces.

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Obama is over@11:40 – Sir, you make to much sense with your post, no lib will respond to it. They just love to talk BS all day, unless it is time to go to the mailbox and get their free govt check.

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New bumper stickers:

Romney/Ryan — Clueless When It Comes To Patriotism!

Romney/Ryan — If You’re Reckless And You Know It, Clap Your Hands!

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getalife
September 12th, 2012
11:47 am

They blame them by condemning the reaction of the administration based upon the statement released by the embassey?

So because they didn’t agree with the statement to you that translates to Romney placing the blame for the act itself on Obama and America as a whole?

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Romney & the rest of the GOP are well practiced at using propaganda.

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A tweet about Romney: Romney sounds very presidential in his response to the attacks. If by “presidential,” we mean idiotic.

I would say we have a lot of “presidential” posts on today’s blog by the conned.

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Goldie
September 12th, 2012
11:48 am

Has Romney/Ryan backtracked their statements yet today? Get ready, it’s bound to happen!

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Not as yet, the only backtracking has been by administration on the original statement released by the embassey.

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Romney/Ryan — War-mongering Never Sleeps!

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rags

**We conservatives learn from our mistakes, but you leftists seemingly never do**

You mean like the iraqi excellent adventure???

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On Romney apologizing, this is the one time he should get some guidance from Obama!

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All this because some private citizen made a video offensive to Mohammed and they’re upset??

Reminds me of the hysteria when a certain business owner dared to voice his support of traditional marriage and the left went nuts over it. Two peas in a pod.

Imagine what they’d do if they took the time to read the facebook comments people all over the country are posting about them and their “peaceful” religion….

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jamvet- Liar, but you and the rest of us already know that

Stop projecting yourself onto me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJKsVA_Xygw

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“Jay
September 12th, 2012
11:38 am

Notably, I haven’t seen any GOP leaders in Congress come to Romney’s defense in this.

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No need to defend him. Only Jay attacking. Obama has already retracted the embassy statement.

This is another Jay tempest in a teapot.

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rb,

Or the small business owner showing patriotism by hugging our President.

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Butch – Nice, several 70/80 yr old men sitting around and talking BS, got themselves put in prison for their rants. A couple of them have trouble walking w/o a cane, do you really consider that a threat? You are better than that, Butch?

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robme /ruin America’s fault.

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Jm-you don’t get out much do you? Do you ever read news sources online or on tv? You think this is just a Jay story?

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Another day, another outrage from the O’bozo administration.

Looks like Jay got some pretty strong marching orders from his 06:00 DNC conference call this morning — two blogs on the same topic in one morning!

The White House must be worried about something. Gee, what could that be? Is it possible they want to do everything possible to cover-up a limp-wristed, namby-pamby foreign policy that an event like this might expose?

Syria is a disaster, Iran is building them some nukes, Libya is a powder keg, and now Egypt is getting “angry.” wow. Time for some American leadership! So we get this take charge, unequivocal statement of American leadership in the troubled times:

The US “condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.”

Hurt feelings???

Really?

Yes Jay, I can see why you and the rest of the media is scrambling…

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the cat “Reminds me of the hysteria…”

You do know “hysteria” and lost lives aren’t the same thing, don’t you?

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“Maybe if I don’t vote the crazy people will just go away” said no rational human EVER.

“Maybe if I just pretend that both sides are the same, the crazy will stop” said no one EVER.

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JKL2-just off the top of my head

Draft dodgers-Romney, Bush disappeared and never served.

Hannity, Boortz, etc etc

Try again

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Romney is a vile, disgusting opportunist just like the fools that continue to support him.

Stick a fork in him. He’s done.

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Marines deployed to Libya.

Hillary said it best when she reminded Libyans we helped liberate Libya and saved Benghazi.

They murdered four Americans that made that happen.

This is a good message not blame America first like the cons.

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“Obama shuns Netanyahu and pooh poohs Israels concerns about Iranian nuclear capabilities. No time for Netanyahu but plenty of time for Letterman.”

I guess this is directive #1 (talking point) for today for the wingnuts.

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Looks like Bookman’s “baby birds” have swallowed the worm of deception again!

According to USA Today (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/09/11/cairo-us-embassy-protesters-prophet-mohammad/70000126/1#.UE-AdkbCz8A), Jay’s “time-line” is not quite accurate (speaking of “rearranging events to suit a narrative”).

The sorry apologetic statement issued by the Obama admn. came AFTER protestors stormed our embassy (attacked it) and took down our flag and replaced it.

Any of you libs even bother to “fact-check?!”

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“Tom-the old farts had actual bomb making materials.”

So does every farmer in the United States. They should go to jail too right?

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“Is it possible they want to do everything possible to cover-up a limp-wristed, namby-pamby foreign policy”

yeah Sink — tell that to all the al-Qaida widows of the terrorists we’ve killed or captured… more than your guy W ever dreamed of!

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JAY,

Off topic but have you ever seen the NYT’s highlight an Op-ed in gray?

I picked up copy yesterday and that guy who wrote about Bush’s alledged knowing of attacks was highlighted in light gray…

No thats what I call a biased rag..

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Obama set up the Chicago school system?

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It matters not a whit who said what first. The fact is Romney insulted America and its President at a time when our nation lost an Ambassador and 3 staff members while they were serving their country.

Romeny has never served his country choosing to ride a bike all over France while his contemporaries were in the trenches. He should be ashamed of himself and offer apologies to the families of the victims, the President, Mrs. Clinton, and America. He is not man enough to do that.

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JKL2

Please elaborate on Obama and the Chicago school system.

Thanks

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Goldie

September 12th, 2012
12:08 pm
You a drive by limited historian….lmao

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the cat@12:02 – You may be right. You think they could find their way to Atlanta? They did find their way to the Waffle House for their planning sessions. They kinda reminded me of old Clint Eastwood talking to that empty chair. Before I get yelled at, I am a life long fan of Dirty Hairy! “Go ahead punk, make my day”!

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I dont think there was much mentioned about AQ’s number two in Yemen being killed yesterday.

Ask AQ about that limp-wristed foreign policy.

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“So you are either incapable of grasping the timeframe involved, or you are pretending to be incapable of grasping the timeframe involved. I’m not sure which is worse, but take your choice.”….Jay – I call it willful ignorance. Whether it’s the “he’s a muslim” or “he wasn’t born here” or whatever else nonsence crowd, it’s eerily sad to watch the dumbing-down of such a wide swath of would-be voters.

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JKL2, you writing that I voted for Obama makes you a liar, an idiot, or both.

willie, quit running cover for the anti-Americans…

A Liberty County grand jury indicted the men — Adam Dearman, Randall Dearman, Timothy Joiner, Christopher Jenderseck and Anthony Garner — on charges of illegal gang activity and several counts of theft, burglary and auto-break ins. District Attorney Tom Durden said this week the crimes were committed to fund the militia group F.E.A.R., an acronym for Forever Enduring Always Ready. Durden told the judge they were leaders of F.E.A.R., which was bent on assassinating the president, poisoning apple crops and bombing dams in Washington state and blowing up the fountain in Savannah’s Forsyth Park. As for the five indicted this week, Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said all but Randall Dearman are former soldiers at the base.

I’m sure that in your Republican mind though they are not conservatives!

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“The fact is Romney insulted America and its President at a time when our nation lost an Ambassador and 3 staff members while they were serving their country.”

Exactly — thanks cat!

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Reminds me of the hysteria when a certain business owner dared to voice his support of traditional marriage and the left went nuts over it. Two peas in a pod.

Yeah, cause me refusing to eat at Chick-Fil-A is exactly the same as storming an embassy and killing an ambassador.

Nucking futs.

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Hey Grasshopper

Are you suggesting that Obama should let Bibi make our decisions for us?

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Romney/Ryan — We’ll Shut The Party Down!

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Breaking:

Libya attack was planned by aq .

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ragnar danneskjold

September 12th, 2012
10:58 am

“One perceives that the leftists intend to conceal Fearless Leader’s cowardice by criticizing the political opposition.”
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And the many perceive that the right wingnuts intend to conceal their own cowardice and ignorance by criticizing the political opposition.

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Mary E….But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression. I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease.
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This is the vision that has been sorely lacking in previous administrations when foolhardy invasions were undertaken to solve problematic situations . This is reasoned analysis of the causes of protest
and a strategy of diplomacy and discussion to arrive at solutions in the move towards global brotherhood

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larry-exactly. They were a threat.

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Intell had chatter on a attack in Libya by aq.

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Even more proof that Romney is not fit to be president. These are dangerous times in the middle east and Romney has proved himself to be a goof on foreign policy. OBAMA 2012!

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 12th, 2012
12:21 pm
LOL

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Mitt goes to battle for the first time and shoots himself in the foot.

Mark Halperin:

“Unless the Romney campaign has gamed this crisis out in some manner completely invisible to the Gang of 500, his doubling down on criticism of the President for the statement coming out of Cairo is likely to be seen as one of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campaign.”

Politico:

“Over the top: Yesterday we noted that Mitt Romney, down in the polls after the convention, was throwing the kitchen sink at President Obama. Little did we know the kitchen sink would include — on the anniversary of 9/11 — one of the most over-the-top and (it turns out) incorrect attacks of the general election campaign.”

Tweet From National Journal:

“A ham-handed and inaccurate response from Romney. There is a reason why politix stops at water’s edge.”

Salon:

“That it’s fundamentally dishonest hasn’t stopped Mitt Romney from repeating his central critique of Barack Obama’s foreign policy over and over – the idea that the president “went around the world and apologized for America.” So it shouldn’t be surprising that Romney’s response to the attacks on U.S. diplomatic installations in Egypt and Libya was rooted in the same caricature of Obama as apologizer-in-chief.

“It’s disgraceful,” Romney’s statement, which was released late Tuesday night, read, “that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

Buzzfeed:

“Foreign Policy Hands Voice Disbelief At Romney Cairo Statement”

“Mitt Romney’s sharply-worded attack on President Obama over a pair of
deadly riots in Muslim countries last night has backfired badly among
foreign policy hands of both parties, who cast it as hasty and off-key,
released before the facts were clear at what has become a moment of
tragedy.”

H/T to Kos

And he lost the Nooner earlier…..

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Watch out for the drones aq in Libya.

They are coming for you.

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So does every farmer in the United States. They should go to jail too right?

If they start talking about making that stuff into bombs and overthrowing the government, yes.

There’s a lot of people out there with guns. If one of them pointed his .45 at you and announced his intention to shoot, I doubt you’d slough them off as some old dude just flapping his dentures.

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“larry-exactly. They were a threat.”

Do you suppose the five Georgians charged with gang activity is a play to hide the four murders in Cairo? It is so typical of the left wing.

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Is “first A, then B” a sequence too complicated to understand?

Apparently so.

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Romney/Ryan — Still Not Ready For Prime Time In America!

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Not at all Jay…the attack was yesterday was it not, I read the response from the state department last night…if I am missing something then please correct me

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Get Real:

Be very careful or he will trot out a chart !

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willie,

Your treason is showing.

We support our country on this blog.

Thanks.

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JKL2 11:46 am
williebkind- You are not talking about liberal kids for sure–right! Liberals go to college and get government jobs

Very well said. The people who always make that claim don’t have any skin in the game either.

Be careful -I’m liberal and have skin in the game in the form of my only son. While in the Army, he saw Iraq three times. Got out to work for the govt doing the same thing (intelligence) has seen two more trips to Iraq, two into Afghanistan. Due to leave in December for another duty in Afghanistan. His first trip into Iraq was before we all figured out there were no WMD. Remember that? We should learn from that horrible mistake and promise our soldiers to NEVER make that mistake again. And if you are running for the highest office this country has, you should NEVER speak about foreign affairs until you know what your talking about. Romney failed in his foray into showing he can handle foreign affairs, for the second time. Do we need any more prrof of what kind of leader he would be? With one finger away from the red button? This was his 2:00 alarm being woken up in the White house, and this was monumental failure.

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Krystal’sBalls

September 12th, 2012
12:27 pm
Israel can do all what you said unless Russia or China join the other forces. Then what?

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“Where are the constitutional buffs?”
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The smart ones are laughing and pointing at you.

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Oh, hey, anyone ELSE want to come out and say I don’t look at anything but left wing information, by the way?

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Smoke from RPG killed diplomats.

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…and to add, I only bring our relationship with Isreal because that is really what all this stuff stems from and ties it all together – how quick we respond to this or that, whether we stand with Isreal against the Islamists, whether our as it is called “interference” in the middle east is because we show favor to Isreal, etc. Those types of things. Between that and the oil thing, I’m just tired.

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HEADLINE from right wing site Twitchy: U.S. Embassy in Cairo chooses Sep. 11 to apologize for hurt Muslim feelings; Hours later, angry Egyptian mob storms compound; Embassy stands by its apology; White House disavows it

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And how many apologies to the muslim faith did Mr. George W. make on this day eleven years ago?
And whom did he escort to the airport with a presidential you can fly anytime waiver?
Today’s events will allow the voters to see the right wing crazies who just like after 9-11 are ready
to use Romney/Ryan to advance their extreme agenda like John Bolton, Michelle Bachmann , Krauthammer, Crystal, Cheney etc.
Just yesterday all the cons were ready to throw in the towel unless robot man goes “ideological” . Well guess what this right wing misguided film did after going on You Tube??? Robot man is going ideological on foreign policy!
Can someone blog El Rushbo’s misguided comments today???? They must be a doozy- might start some new riots.

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“Our campaign will not be dictated by Fact-checkers!”

And the un-American propaganda continues from the Cons!

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Randy Weaver and David Koresh are apples and oranges.

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Scout: He wanted him captured but the SEALS made sure otherwise.

Bullsh*t. Prove it.

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They BOTH suck: “Obama set up the Chicago school system?”

Yeah, and the Republicans are 100% on board with it.

Which is kind of inconvenient with the various partisan narratives you see here, isn’t it?

By the way, Jay, you might be preferring to avoid what’s going on in Chicago, but some of your readers might have other ideas.

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I like some things I am seeing in the Republican response to Romney lately. They are actually calling him out on the way he is handling the convention speech, this situation, not having a micro plan for the economy. I think some on both sides are starting to see the shortfalls of agreeing to every lie put out by his or her party, and seeing compromise as not a dirty word. Some in both parties are actually starting to get it.

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KRYSTALSBALLS

I think we need to pull all troops back home and let another country take the lead in all this crap…..

What’s the payback? Iraq-none, Syria-none, egypt-none, Isreal-none, South Korea, none, list goes on and on….

Cut defense spending by 25%

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we are reaching a point where Caribou Barbie was a better candidate.

Roll that around in your mind for a little bit.

Obama 2012
Romney 1040

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“And the un-American propaganda continues from the Cons!”

The cons un-American–really? Who continues to make laws from the bench and interprets the constitution as their emotions rise.

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The constitution says if the government becomes so bad the people have the right to change it. Where are the constitutional buffs?

Actually, what you’re referring to is the Declaration of Independence. And here is what it says:

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

Nothing in there about overthrowing the existing government, by the way.

I can forgive you not distinguishing the two documents, but what I can’t forgive is your complete lack of understanding and insistence on the false idea that the founders thought the people of this country needed to be ready and armed to overthrow THEIR OWN government, as opposed to separating themselves from it. The Constitution and the Second amendment are both things you don’t need to pay ANY attention to if you are planning on overthrowing the government that is based on that document, or if you plan on separating.

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Jay @ 12:24

Sorry Jay but the 2nd Amendment is the final arbiter for a tyrannical government that refuses to uphold the Constitution.

Following are just a few excerpts from the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Heller v. D.C.

“Page 24

b. SECURITY OF A FREE STATE

“The phrase “security of a free state” meant “security of a free polity” not security of each of the several states.”

“There are many reasons why the militia was thought to be “necessary for the security of a free state” ……….. Third, when the
able bodied men of a nation are trained in arms and organized, they are better able to resist tyranny.”

Page 25

3. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PREFATORY CLAUSE AND OPERATIVE CLAUSE

“That history showed that the way tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able bodied men was not by
banning the militia but simply taking away the people’s arms, enabling a select militia or standing army to suppress
political opponents.”

Page 26

“It was understood across the political spectrum that the right helped to secure the ideal of a citizen militia, which might
be necessary to oppose an oppressive military force if the constitutional order broke down.”

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Washington Examiner ?

Anyhow, I would like to state that none of the three that were arrested in Toccoa/Stephens Co. were farmers.
I can not speak for the man from White Co.

I would like to know who made the video that got all this started in the first place, and how did it get over there in Egypt and Libya?

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Adam @ 12:39

Please see my 12:40.

The 2nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution (which is a full part of the Constitution) provides for the changing of a rogue tryrannical government at odds with its own Constitution.

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Larry@12:19 – Interesting post, informative and to the point. A local’s view is well taken. I just saw the movie LAWLESS, hope it is not quite like that?

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Seems that Bookman left a few things out, as usual. CBS reports that the ambassador was not killed at the embassy but apparently was spirited out of the embassy by Libyan security officials to some place “safe”, but the kicker is that these same security officials, according to CBS, told where he was and the result was his death. And Bozo and Hillary are tooting the horn of the Libyans as friends and allies. If I was the sister of that ambassador or any of those others killed, I would not rest until the truth came out and showed what absolute imbeciles those in charge have been. They are afraid of their shadow and all of those peace loving Muslims know it.

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The 2nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution (which is a full part of the Constitution) provides for the changing of a rogue tryrannical government at odds with its own Constitution.

No it doesn’t, despite your assertion that it does. Nowhere in any founding document or letter will you find such sentiment or intent. Plus, as I have already explained, overthrowing the government or taking it by force means you are basically ignoring the Constitution anyway – which says such action or conspiracy is treason. Separation is allowed, so you’re free to leave whenever you feel oppressed.

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Wow…a lot of emotion being shown here. So I have been looking into this entire thing. First off, Jay, are you sure you have your facts straight? Here is the account of Romney’s press conference today from the NR:

In a forceful statement today, Mitt Romney condemned yesterday’s attacks in Libya and Egypt — and criticized the White House’s handling of the situation.

“I also believe the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in Egypt, instead of condemning their actions,” he added. “It’s never too early for the United States government to condemn attacks on Americans and to defend our values. The White House distanced itself last night from the statement, saying it wasn’t cleared by Washington. That reflects the mixed signals they’re sending to the world.”

There were at least TWO assaults on the embassy, and it appears Romney was attacking the apparent initial response to the first attack, given in the form of the Embassy Statement (that you quoted in part above and from which the WH, interestingly, has reportedly “distanced” itself). Correct me if you think I am wrong, but it seems you have your timeline mixed up.

As for Romney’s charge the the Obama administration was “sympathizing” with the attackers, that charge was (again) directed at the Embassy statement which the WH apparently is trying to “distance” itself from (suggesting at the very least that it sees the statement as less than appropriate).

I am not going to defend Romney or his obvious political actions. Both he AND Obama are, as it turns out, typical POLITICIANS. You might do well to stop falling into the trap of defending Obama so much. There is little evidence that either he or Romney are heroes.

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@ Steve-USA “None of the Above”

September 12th, 2012
11:44 am

Typical Republican statement….It’s amazing how those dumb asses still don’t get it!

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Adam:

Sorry but the Supreme Court disagrees with you. The majority stated that 2nd Amendment exists as a final means to overthrow a tyrannical government that has abandoned the Constitution.

I suggest you read the entire brief. You will be enlightened.

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Krystal’sBalls

September 12th, 2012
12:38 pm
Do you not love those that love you more than those that do not love you? How many times have you heard the islamic terrorists talk about American with hate in the hearts? Have you heard Israel talk about America with that kind of disdain? One reason the islamic terrorists hate American because we say that Israel has the right to exist and will enforce that politically and militarily if necessary. Israel has defeated them in war and possessed lands they use to attack Israel. Only a greater resource nations can bring Israel down–like Russia and China.

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“Jane Fonda As Nancy Reagan”

That is hilarious and bet she does a great job.

She plays the wealthy corporate owner on Newsroom too.

One of her best lines, ” I have business with this congress.”

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“Bush served. Three our of his required four years in the Texas Air national Guard.

The he got so messed up so bad being a smackhead that he no longer kept his flight status and got lost in Alabama!”

Got his life together and became President of the United States! What an American dream!

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“Plan to use drones in eastern Libya” cnn.

That was quick.

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I cant go on the record, Tom, and state that there are more people like those four that were arrested, but i would hope not. This area has seen its share of bad publicity when its trying to attract companies and jobs in the area. It did not need this.

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Smart move ryan.

They are never on the same page.

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scout,

They don’t need our permission.

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In the 1980 campaign, while we had a few Americans held by the Iranians, Reagan almost daily berated Carter about his inability to handle the crisis. This is fair game, liberals. Your boy blew it. Romney is spot on.

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801,

You are constantly throwing about assertions and accusations, but never take the time to do any type of remedial work to post support. How about you get off your rear and find the part of the Constitution/Declaration of Independence that supports your argument?

As for your accusations of prior knowledge, I equate such a rant with those I hear from street corner lunatics casting about eternal damnation to those that don’t conform to their rigid world view.

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