Romney claims Obama sympathizes with attack on U.S.
UPDATE 10:20: In a press conference, Romney just claimed that “it is never too early to condemn” attacks on U.S. personnel. Apparently, “never too early” means condemning the attacks before they have even occurred. He also made it pretty clear that no apology for his statements will be forthcoming.
He is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.
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With four American diplomats dead in Libya, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, the United States has in effect come under attack overseas. The response of the Mitt Romney campaign has been to accuse the Obama administration of sympathizing with the attackers.
That charge is grotesque. It is also factually incorrect. It can be made correct only by going back in time and rearranging events to suit the Romney narrative, and that is not going to happen. Let’s take a look at how the tragic events in question played out:
1.) Alarmed at reports of rising anger in Egypt over an anti-Islamic film made in the United States, the U.S. embassy in Cairo tries to calm things Tuesday morning with a statement in which it “condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
2.) Hours AFTER that statement is released, as the Wall Street Journal reports, protesters in Cairo breach the walls of the embassy and pull down the American flag.
3.) Attacks in Libya — also launched well AFTER the embassy statement — end in the tragic death of four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador. They died in service to our country.
4.) Romney quickly puts out a statement calling it “disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
5.) In the actual first U.S. response to the attacks, released about the same time as the Romney statement, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemns the violence in no uncertain terms:
“Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”
The charge that an American president sympathizes with those who attacked this country should not be made easily. In fact, under the circumstances it is a charge that should not have been made at all. It would seem to me that an apology is in order from former Gov. Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus, Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens and others who made such an unfounded charge at such a delicate time.
– Jay Bookman
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Peter
September 12th, 2012
1:51 pm
More from the lying Republicans……….Seems other Republican’s are catching on !!!!!!!
When Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan said during an August radio interview that he once ran a marathon in less than three hours, North Carolina runner Bill Walker was impressed, but wanted more details.
The 63-year-old attorney, who has run four sub-three-hour marathons since college, posted a simple question on a message board for LetsRun.com, a national online forum for runners. “In an Aug. 22 interview by Hugh Hewitt, Representative Ryan said he had run a marathon in ‘two hour and fifty something,’” Walker wrote on the message board. “Does anyone know the marathon and the year?”
In little time, hundreds of skeptical runners on the message board started questioning Ryan’s claim that his best marathon time was “two hour and fifty something.” The thread went viral. The day after Walker posted his question, Runner’s World writer Scott Douglas started examining it. Turns out Ryan never ran a marathon in that time; a campaign spokesman was forced to walk back the comment.
And it all started with one question on a message board.
“I just wanted to know,” Walker said in an interview posted Wednesday on LetsRun.com. “If he had really run a marathon in that range, I would be impressed because I know the effort that goes into a sub-three-hour marathon. But, if he was lying or really stretching the truth, I thought that would be significant since he had just been nominated to run for Vice-President on the Republican ticket.”
Walker says he is a registered Republican, but will be voting for President Barack Obama in November.
Brosephus™
September 12th, 2012
1:51 pm
Maybe you need to research how allowing unchecked muslim immigration into Europe is working out for them, and get back to us on that.
Maybe you need to research how the United States is not Europe when it comes to immigration laws and checks. Don’t bother to get back to me because we all know you won’t lift a finger to change your preconceived notions.
Mr_B
September 12th, 2012
1:51 pm
Has anyone suggest indicting Terry Jones and Sam Racile for negligent manslaughter in this case? The promotion of the film in question has to be the equivalent of shouting “fire” in a crowded theater.
JKL2
September 12th, 2012
1:51 pm
scout- Hey, how are those poor, poor Chicago school teachers doing? We are forgetting about their pain in all of this international stuff
I bet Rahm is pissed. Put on this big grandstand, even had to side with the Republicans, then gets upstaged by a Romney comment. He has to be hating life right now.
fair and balanced
September 12th, 2012
1:52 pm
What does big mouth El Rushbo have to say today after condemning Romney’s campaig yesterday as not being aggressive enough?????????
citizen
September 12th, 2012
1:52 pm
Even the Republican members of Congress will NOT even mention Mitt Romney and Lyan Ryan’s names. I hope this brings down the Romney campaign because the Corporatist have truly lost their way.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
1:52 pm
“Do you think that, in this episode, Romney is showing the leadership skills necessary for an American President?”
Beats the snot out of being a community organizer.
Just sayin’………………..
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
Atlanta’s Hartsfield -Thief Airport is about to hire 100 Republicans………
http://www.ajc.com/news/business/now-arriving-at-hartsfield-jackson-sheep/nR8nz/
Joseph
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
Jay:
As pathetic as Oblama has been on this issue along with a host others you should be ashamed of yourself Jay.
Peadawg
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
“Hey, how are those poor, poor Chicago school teachers doing?”
I hope they are all fired and replaced as soon as they decide to return. I feel bad for the kids.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
Of course, the next step will be analysis of how Libya and Egypt fell into the hands of the Islamist mob. When the despised Bush deposed a dictator, he imposed democracy that valued freedom, in the heart of Islamic Middle East. He left office with a stable and comparatively free country in place. Bush admittedly left an incomplete job in Afghanistan, but one that was freer than the group deposed.
In contrast, “individual freedom” does not seem to be a value inculcated in any of the regime changes during the Obama regime. Is that a failing of the bureaucrats in the state department, or a failure of leadership?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
Romney is a repulsive slug.
Watch the slime trail leading up to the doors of the White House.
But can he slither under it?
Billions of dollars are being spent trying to slime his path even more.
But all those dollars are failing – because, in the end, he’s still a slug.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
1:54 pm
The robot called romney is self destructing.
The gop tossed him under the bus today as the cons did yesterday.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
1:54 pm
“Maybe you need to research how the United States is not Europe ”
Maybe you need to research how the Left desperately wants us to be Europe….
Williebkind
September 12th, 2012
1:54 pm
“Then again, it’s not everyday they come under attack by angry mobs.”
It has happened enough that there is a plan of action. Who dropped the ball?
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
1:55 pm
Dear Fair @ 1:52, glad you asked. I am listening, and I think Rush must be reading my posts.
Mr_B
September 12th, 2012
1:55 pm
Willliebkind: Read Leviticus and then get back to be on the daughter-killing thing.
Towncrier
September 12th, 2012
1:55 pm
“And you’re speculating too. I have a bit of a working knowledge of how things operate from within the government, so forgive me if I pretend to be a wee bit more knowledgable on these things. Communications may indeed be instant, but running a statement up the chain of command for approval is NOT.”
Really? Even when an Embassy is about to be attacked in Egypt? No “high priority” or “urgent” calls will be taken? Sorry if I seem incredulous. I have started conducting a ten year Google search (from 2001 to 2011) on the terms “us”, “embassy” and “unauthorized statement” and have found nothing yet to suggest this has occurred before. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t, but I don’t trust Obama anymore than many don’t Romney and if the WH is lying on this point, I’d like to know.
Brosephus™
September 12th, 2012
1:55 pm
Maybe you need to research how the Left desperately wants us to be Europe….
Maybe you need to join reality… and pick this week to stop sniffing glue…
Williebkind
September 12th, 2012
1:56 pm
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
1:54 pm
He only has to look into the mirror.
Mary Elizabeth
September 12th, 2012
1:57 pm
Paulo977, 12:22 pm
On President Obama’s vision for the Commander-in-Chief, as he expressed in his DNC acceptance speech:
“This is the vision that has been sorely lacking in previous administrations when foolhardy invasions were undertaken to solve problematic situations . This is reasoned analysis of the causes of protest
and a strategy of diplomacy and discussion to arrive at solutions in the move towards global brotherhood.”
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I agree with your sentiments, Paulo. In contrast, we have a presidential candidate in Gov. Romney who doesn’t appear to have given much in depth thought to a vision for achieving world peace, and who, evidently, advocates the style of the bully, and of the deceiver.
America had, begining in 2000, almost a decade of that same leadership style which damaged America’s image and credibility throughout the world. The U.S. neither needs to return to that destructive leadership style, nor to return to a domestic policy that caters to the top 1%, with its “trickle-down” economic policies and tax cuts which have primarily benefitted the very wealthy. These are all values of the past which have reflected a limiting hierarchial vision, not an egalitarian one which is a more expansive, and humane, vision.
the cat
September 12th, 2012
1:57 pm
I would like to thank everyone for not responding to doomy so far. He sounds like he might be sober, hasn’t groped any woman yet, so maybe his rehab is working.
catlady
September 12th, 2012
1:57 pm
Is there no depth this man (Romney) will sink to?
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
1:57 pm
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
Of course, the next step will be analysis of how Libya and Egypt fell into the hands of the Islamist mob. When the despised Bush deposed a dictator, he imposed democracy that valued freedom…..
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Holy sht on a stick. Did you REALLY just type that? “Imposed Democracy?” Democracy at the point of an American gun? Really? Is THAT how it goes? We just go in, kill, pillage and burn until everyone left *says* they believe in Democracy? Oh and then call it mission accomplished right? \
Just damn.
Joseph
September 12th, 2012
1:57 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/breitbart-tv
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
1:57 pm
Ragnar
It might have to do something with the number of boots or lack there of in any given country……………
Are you saying we need boots in all these countries or that we should continue to prop up despots if they happen to be in our corner?
You libs
September 12th, 2012
1:58 pm
ragnar
“When the despised Bush deposed a dictator, he imposed democracy that valued freedom ”
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Billybob
September 12th, 2012
1:58 pm
wto,
he is spueaky clean and the marketing that axelrod has done to discredit every person who obama has run against for public office will not work this time……keep up the ‘intellectual superiority’ from the left….zzzzzzzzzzz
getalife
September 12th, 2012
1:58 pm
The cons are aq sympathizers and blame America.
You might want to write which side you are on for the record.
Joseph
September 12th, 2012
1:59 pm
I’m wondering who the President is… Seems to me he’s leaving foreign policy up to Romney since he hasn’t even had a briefing since Sept. 5th. Pathetic…
It is the economy, stupid!
September 12th, 2012
1:59 pm
This from a guy who initially said that it was not cost effective to pursue and kill OBL. Romney is the sleaziest presidential candidate since Nixon.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
1:59 pm
Amusing that Obama sees nothing worthy of action here other than Romney’s criticism.
the cat
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
From The Onion, hilarious!
http://www.theonion.com/articles/paul-ryan-knocked-over-by-pack-of-rambunctious-rom,29529/
Williebkind
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
Mr_B
September 12th, 2012
1:55 pm
Ok I am back. Now hat happened 10,000 years ago or sort of right. Wow, is that the best you got? We have had honor killings in the United States since 2011. But you libs do not think that is a big deal. Very limit reporting on it and not much noise. Do you think it could be used in your plan in the future to rid the world of freemen.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
And, of course, in the realm of Obama, by “action” I mean “mere words.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
BRO,
Clearly you are not speaking of those who are in control of those particular countries…of course many of the citizens want to come to US…
The masses in each one of these countries, happily led by religious zealots etcetera, hate us and will attack us for slightest provocation more than ever…
Billybob
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
bro,
the left , including the organizer in chief want to take us towards europe and if you don’t see that, please join us IN REALITY…..easy
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
2:01 pm
That doesn’t mean it hasn’t, but I don’t trust Obama anymore than many don’t Romney and if the WH is lying on this point, I’d like to know.
The unbiased thing to do would be to equally not trust both. Trust but verify perhaps.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 12th, 2012
2:02 pm
he is spueaky clean…[...] …keep up the ‘intellectual superiority’ from the left…
Oh, the irony.
Towncrier
September 12th, 2012
2:02 pm
“Of course, the next step will be analysis of how Libya and Egypt fell into the hands of the Islamist mob. When the despised Bush deposed a dictator, he imposed democracy that valued freedom, in the heart of Islamic Middle East.”
GWB should have realized one cannot “impose” democracy on a people not far removed from tribalism and theocracies. They have to want it or you are simply wasting your time. In this regard, I think GWB and his advisors were as ignorant of human nature as Clinton appears to be have been in her remarks. GWB did say initially that we were not into “nation building”. Too bad he didn’t stick with that plan.
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
2:02 pm
You libs
September 12th, 2012
1:58 pm
ragnar
“When the despised Bush deposed a dictator, he imposed democracy that valued freedom ”
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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Unfortunately he is.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:02 pm
Eight pages of outrage over Romney, still no cogent thought or analysis from Bookman or his sheep about the urgency of a very dangerous situation, nor Obama’s pitiful reaction to it.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
Dear Fred @ 1:57, suggest you observe the example of Chile in the 1980s. “Freedom” has no support among the thugs of the mob, who only wish to control the rabble. It is ironic that the only way for a small country to obtain freedom is to have it imposed from outside.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
CITIZEN,
What Romney said or didn’t say will simply get the base more lathered up…it won’t hurt him amongst those already committed voters…what are they going to do? Vote for Obama? Not show up simply to get Obama out of office?
I see this whole thing as irrelevant and predictable..
jewcowboy
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
“Maybe you need to research how the Left desperately wants us to be Europe….”
Well…they do make a quite nice bespoke suit.
the cat
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
Ben-please share your plan, thanks.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
“bro,
the left , including the organizer in chief want to take us towards europe and if you don’t see that, please join us IN REALITY…..easy”
Interesting that bro’s first thought ran towards sniffing glue….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
Ragnar Translated: OMG its been hours, why hasn’t Obama launched some drones so I can then blame him for rash action.
Unlike the former cowboy President’s “bring it on”, if the attack was anything more than an unorganized mob, this President will take deliberate action when appropriate. But enjoy your silliness Rag.
Progress
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
Maybe Romney would have a better shot at becoming president if he actually supported the country once in a while. But instead he tries to score political points on the death of an American diplomat, he hides out in France during Vietnam while he cheers on the idea of other young Americans being sent to fight and die, often against their wishes, and he makes sure he gives back as little to the country as possible by hiding his money in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland. And he earned all that money by leeching off the companies he took over and emptying the employees’ pension plans before shipping the work overseas. When Romney sees a crisis in America he sees an opportunity to advance his own interests at the cost of America’s. He’s not presidential material.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Ben-please share your plan, thanks.’
My plan goes into action on Nov 7.
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
It sounds like the Right Wing posters are all in favor of a more beefed up and aggressive military policy. Great, that must mean that they’re all for tax increases to pay for it. And here I thought they were against Obamas tax policies. My bad.
Towncrier
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
“The unbiased thing to do would be to equally not trust both. Trust but verify perhaps.”
I wouldn’t really say I “trust” Romney. But I am voting for him nonetheless – if only top ensure more originalist-thinking supremes are nominated. But that is the social conservative in me.
jewcowboy
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Eight pages of outrage over Romney”
How strange for this blog…sticking to the subject.
USA Patriot
September 12th, 2012
2:06 pm
Ben, BHO has reacted, heading to Las Vegas for a fund raising “event” – gee, wonder what college he’s going to hold it at. Meanwhile back in reality more of the US embasseys in the middle east are under attack and the spineless “ONE” heads west. Lot of backbone with this knucklehead!
Thulsa Doom
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
This was a pretty brilliant move by the liberal media when you think about it. Instead of discussing how it is that we had such a glaring intelligence failure regarding the mobs and how it is that 4 Americans including the ambassador got killed we’re instead talking some nonsense about what Romney said and when.
We should be asking how we could we have such an abysmal failure by the administration to protect our embassy people and how our intelligence could fail so miserably. And we should be talking about how little influence we have in Egypt and Libya that those govts would stand by and allow and possibly even coordinate with the mobs to allow this to take place. Its mind blowing that we are instead talking about Romney’s statements.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
Dear Fred @ 2:02, even better example is the collapse of the Communist world. Only when de-legitimized by Reagan, and opposed at every one of its land-grabbing advances (e.g., Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan) did communism collapse, allowing freedom rear its cacophonous head.
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
Eight pages of outrage over Romney, still no cogent thought or analysis from Bookman or his sheep about the urgency of a very dangerous situation, nor Obama’s pitiful reaction to it.
Show us what you got then, Ben.
Brosephus™
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
Towncrier
From what I’ve read, the Embassy staff were sent home early, but I have yet to find anything that said they were expecting anything near what happened. There were meetings from a US business group in the very same compound earlier that day trying to cement business ties between the US and Egypt. I doubt they would have held meetings like that had they known there was an impending attack.
Jay
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
On the other hand, Allen West is backing Mitt. As is Sarah Palin. As she wrote last night on Facebook, referring to President Obama, “If he doesn’t have a ‘big stick’ to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.”
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
Dear Fred @ 1:57, suggest you observe the example of Chile in the 1980s. “Freedom” has no support among the thugs of the mob, who only wish to control the rabble. It is ironic that the only way for a small country to obtain freedom is to have it imposed from outside.
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Really? So how did that work out with the Sandinista’s? How did we do with the Shah?
How is it our “right” to impose OUR will on other Countries? Can you direct me to that place in the Constitution, I seem not to have it in my copy……………..
SO how are we different then then the German’s taking over other Countries to impose THEIR idea of what Gov’t the other Coutries should have? Gee will we “free” Mexico and Canada next?
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
“It sounds like the Right Wing posters are all in favor of a more beefed up and aggressive military policy. Great, that must mean that they’re all for tax increases to pay for it. ”
No, we’re all in favor of cutttng welfare spending and porkulous spending, and growing the economy to increase tax receipts.
Thanks for playing though.
Billybob
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
progress,
axelrod is looking for an intern…….i think you fit the bill
the cat
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
Cross Hobby Lobby off my places to shop.
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/religion/hobby-lobby-sues-over-morning-after-pill-coverage/nR8sy/
I’m sure Mr. Green will permit viagra to be covered.
Towncrier
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
“Eight pages of outrage over Romney, still no cogent thought or analysis from Bookman or his sheep about the urgency of a very dangerous situation…”
I would say you have a point there, Ben. The Middle East may cause the world a WHOLE lot of trouble before long.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
2:08 pm
Perhaps the Reagan example with communism would point a clear course for Obama. Condemn the ideology that tolerates mobs, thus to delegitimize the movement.
Williebkind
September 12th, 2012
2:08 pm
“Ben-please share your plan, thanks.”
Do it Ben I want to read the response.
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
2:08 pm
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Ben-please share your plan, thanks.’
My plan goes into action on Nov 7.
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What’s that? You are going to retire with Boortz and move out of the Country?
Sweet.
You libs
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
DUBAI, Sept 12 (Reuters) – Libyan leader Mohammed Magarief apologised to the United States on Wednesday over an attack on its consulate in Benghazi in which the ambassador and three other staff members were killed.
“We apologise to the United States, the people and to the whole world for what happened,” Magarief, president of Libya’s national assembly, told a news conference broadcast live on Al Jazeera television.
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Is he weak for that?
the cat
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Ben-please share your plan, thanks.’
My plan goes into action on Nov 7.
You sound just like Romeny. elect me and then i will tell you the plan. Don’t think so!
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
I wouldn’t really say I “trust” Romney. But I am voting for him nonetheless – if only top ensure more originalist-thinking supremes are nominated. But that is the social conservative in me.
You do not trust the liar that you are going to vote for. Interesting.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
jewcowboy
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Eight pages of outrage over Romney”
How strange for this blog…sticking to the subject.”
Like puppies, you libs always pounce wherever Bookman shines his flashlight.
LMAO
Williebkind
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
“I’m sure Mr. Green will permit viagra to be covered.”
Now what has that got to do with destroying human flesh?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
I see Obama is promising “justice will be done..” What on earth does that mean? What’s he gonna do…spend another 100 billion or so tracking down a single individual with an RPG in a mob and put him in Gitmo? Stop investing in the side of Democracy? Declare war? Bunker busters, SEALs, drones? Do you suppose we will ever really find out for sure who to levy our “justice” upon???
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:03 pm
Interesting that bro’s first thought ran towards sniffing glue….
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Well you know how *those folks* are Ben. (wink wink, nod nod)
Billybob
September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
that a boy jay, more completely irrelevant fuel to a OWS bonfire mentality…….is this all you got……weak
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
Dear Fred @ 2:07, despite the best efforts of the congressional democrats, the Sandinistas fell, and a comparatively free culture arose. Only when Carter abandoned the Shah did the Shah fall, but rather than undermining the loonies that the Shah kept at bay, the Carterites expressed their desire to work with the new regime. Almost comic, the parallels to the present.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
We are seeing which side the cons are on.
I am pretty sure more cons like west and palin will show us.
the cat
September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
williebkind-I don’t think you meant to write that. ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahaha
Fred ™
September 12th, 2012
2:11 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
I see Obama is promising “justice will be done..” What on earth does that mean? What’s he gonna do…spend another 100 billion or so tracking down a single individual with an RPG in a mob and put him in Gitmo? Stop investing in the side of Democracy? Declare war? Bunker busters, SEALs, drones? Do you suppose we will ever really find out for sure who to levy our “justice” upon???
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So what do you propose?
Martin the Calvinist
September 12th, 2012
2:11 pm
Both parties are guilty at times, and foreign policy debate is legitimate at another time. But, the politicizing of the ambassador’s death is disgusting to me, even when’s its from the party I loosely affiliate myself with…….
the cat
September 12th, 2012
2:11 pm
you do know that will make you go blind don’t you?
Brosephus™
September 12th, 2012
2:11 pm
Stevie Ray: The masses in each one of these countries, happily led by religious zealots etcetera, hate us and will attack us for slightest provocation more than ever…
Those masses you speak of are equivalent to our far right and far left mouthpieces. The difference is that our population is more educated and can weed the truth from bullsh*t in most cases. When you have a society that’s still living in 18th century conditions, it’s far easier to emotionally sway them when they don’t know a fact from their ass.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
2:11 pm
JAY,
Sarah Palin reminds me of the cheerleaders at UGA when I was there, hot and dumb. Just the way we liked it in 1983…
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
“Perhaps the Reagan example with communism would point a clear course for Obama. Condemn the ideology that tolerates mobs, thus to delegitimize the movement.”
At last…cogent thought and analysis. Thanks Rag.
Bookman, see above. This is how you need to think if you ever want to be more than Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s sock puppet.
Thulsa Doom
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
“If he doesn’t have a ‘big stick’ to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.”
I think Sarah Palin’s next move would probably be to challenge Obama to a no holds barred cage match. She knows she would whuuup his ass.
Mick
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
rags
Planning a trip to iraq anytime soon for a vacation? You know that great beacon of democracy birthed by the previous president? See ya!
DannyX
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
“williebkind-I don’t think you meant to write that.”
LOL!!!!!
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
Ben
What is even funnier is that you are always here to cry and moan about it…………. right on time. Sort of like Pavlov’s dog
just sayn
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
On the other hand, Allen West is backing Mitt. As is Sarah Palin.
For most people that would be enough to take the opposite stance all by itself.
Progress
September 12th, 2012
2:13 pm
Thanks, BillyBob, but I’ve got a good job. Now get back to vacuuming out those port-o-lets.
Towncrier
September 12th, 2012
2:13 pm
“As is Sarah Palin. As she wrote last night on Facebook, referring to President Obama, “If he doesn’t have a ‘big stick’ to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.”
Not a smart thing to say. But I have wondered for sometime, Jay, why you seldom call out “your own” when they make dumb or spiteful or inflammatory statements (and there have been a LOT of them made recently) – and I don’t mean a concessionary remark in a response to a post. It is “bad form” as a partisan writer to do that?
Holy Moly!
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
Williebkind
September 12th, 2012
1:46 pm
“My son learned first hand what it feels like to be lied to by someone you trust.”
Was this realization before he got or after the liberal propagation after he returned home. There were no lies, there may have been bad military intelligence but there were no lies except those you told your son.”
Perhaps I wasn’t clear, you see my son was never lied to by his father or me (although his father died when he was 10 and he is now 32). That is why he had faith in his president, because he knew his parents had never lied to him and he had to have that faith that our president would certainly never lie. That is why it was so shocking to him to find out the truth. Colin Powell, the charts, the mushroom cloud, he knew first hand what happened and it ate at him as much as watching a man going in with him, taking his last breath. Don’t think for one minute I liked the idea of him supporting Bush. I raised my son to use his brain and think for himself, and am proud he does.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
This has all been a nice diversion from the usual liberal drivel though, i.e. bashing Romney for not paying more taxes than he is legally obligated to pay.
Mick
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
ben
Stuck in the same one dimension where reasoning ability is not needed. Kind of like a rerun, nothing new there just the same old script…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
you do know that will make you go blind don’t you?
Perhaps he will stop at the point when he needs glasses.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
Great stuff Jay.
Keep them coming.
jewcowboy
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
“Like puppies, you libs always pounce wherever Bookman shines his flashlight.”
Unlike “conservatives” on here who like to throw all manner of poo at the wall and see what sticks, eh?
deegee
September 12th, 2012
2:14 pm
Old Mitt is really sticking his neck out considering that his first foreign policy trip garnered him a “Mitt the Twit” headline in the British press. I’m sure that Mitt’s base is delighted with the fresh, red meat he has tossed them. I don’t think that sort of political opportunism is going to win over any undecided voters.
If we want to stay in the Middle East we really need to make sure that our people are protected. This type of tragedy is only one internet rumor away from happening anywhere we have a presence. If we want to continue the Bush policy of spreading democracy all over the Middle East, we better be prepared for defending ourselves against a crowd that is exercising their democratic muscle.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
2:15 pm
FRED,
I say we get out of those countries and let them settle their clean their own back yards…sad but until then, no course is logical…
BRO,
Yes, the masses on the other side do live in the 18th century (in the case of the taliban..perhaps the 12th century)…and they hate us more than ever….none of our investments in lives or cash was worth any of this…
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
2:15 pm
Hey Kammypoo,
How do they handle mob murders in the World of Gor?