Romney claims Obama sympathizes with attack on U.S.
UPDATE 10:20: In a press conference, Romney just claimed that “it is never too early to condemn” attacks on U.S. personnel. Apparently, “never too early” means condemning the attacks before they have even occurred. He also made it pretty clear that no apology for his statements will be forthcoming.
He is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.
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With four American diplomats dead in Libya, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, the United States has in effect come under attack overseas. The response of the Mitt Romney campaign has been to accuse the Obama administration of sympathizing with the attackers.
That charge is grotesque. It is also factually incorrect. It can be made correct only by going back in time and rearranging events to suit the Romney narrative, and that is not going to happen. Let’s take a look at how the tragic events in question played out:
1.) Alarmed at reports of rising anger in Egypt over an anti-Islamic film made in the United States, the U.S. embassy in Cairo tries to calm things Tuesday morning with a statement in which it “condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
2.) Hours AFTER that statement is released, as the Wall Street Journal reports, protesters in Cairo breach the walls of the embassy and pull down the American flag.
3.) Attacks in Libya — also launched well AFTER the embassy statement — end in the tragic death of four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador. They died in service to our country.
4.) Romney quickly puts out a statement calling it “disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
5.) In the actual first U.S. response to the attacks, released about the same time as the Romney statement, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemns the violence in no uncertain terms:
“Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”
The charge that an American president sympathizes with those who attacked this country should not be made easily. In fact, under the circumstances it is a charge that should not have been made at all. It would seem to me that an apology is in order from former Gov. Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus, Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens and others who made such an unfounded charge at such a delicate time.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
September 12th, 2012
12:48 pm
“Plan to use drones in eastern Libya” cnn.
That was quick.
You libs
September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm
To heck with diplomacy.
What we really need is more tension in the ME.
Romney 2012
Jay
September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm
Even Paul Ryan is refusing to echo Romney’s attack:
http://www.politico.com//blogs/burns-haberman/2012/09/ryan-avoids-obama-criticism-in-response-to-libya-egypt-135314.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm
Adam:
Here is a synopsis and the full opinion if you wish to read them:
http://www.lawnix.com/cases/dc-heller.html (Synopsis)
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdf (Full Opinion)
larry
September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm
I cant go on the record, Tom, and state that there are more people like those four that were arrested, but i would hope not. This area has seen its share of bad publicity when its trying to attract companies and jobs in the area. It did not need this.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
12:50 pm
……………. and meanwhile the Israeli planes sit on the runway ……………. ready to launch.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
12:50 pm
Smart move ryan.
They are never on the same page.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 12th, 2012
12:50 pm
Senior Digits, for all his desire to be a wannabe law student, fails his ability to comprehend case law….. no wait, let me correct that. He just doesn’t care and will lie to support his nonsense. Typical wingnuttery like the entire Romney shameful campaign
getalife
September 12th, 2012
12:51 pm
scout,
They don’t need our permission.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 12th, 2012
12:51 pm
Jay: “It was not in an way a response to what later occurred”
Which would make it, what, a pre-response? A whole new genre of human activity for mind-readers! The mind is buggered.
kayaker 71
September 12th, 2012
12:52 pm
In the 1980 campaign, while we had a few Americans held by the Iranians, Reagan almost daily berated Carter about his inability to handle the crisis. This is fair game, liberals. Your boy blew it. Romney is spot on.
Mr Right
September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm
Typical Republican statement….It’s amazing how those dumb asses still don’t get it!
And a typical Dem response, call them whatever , attack them etc.!
H. E. Pennypacker
September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801,
You are constantly throwing about assertions and accusations, but never take the time to do any type of remedial work to post support. How about you get off your rear and find the part of the Constitution/Declaration of Independence that supports your argument?
As for your accusations of prior knowledge, I equate such a rant with those I hear from street corner lunatics casting about eternal damnation to those that don’t conform to their rigid world view.
Krystal'sBalls
September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm
@LVG
Interesting perspective. I think that is a really good analysis.
@Willieb
AMERICANS talk about other “Americans” with that kind of disdain! LOL! But as they say, talk is cheap. Bombs and rockets now, that’s a different story altogether. But an eye for an eye takes cares of that.
Adam
September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm
Sorry but the Supreme Court disagrees with you.
I am familiar with that court case. It was addressing a right to firearms within a home, NOT overthrow of government, NOT separation from government, and NOT whether or not the founders had intended for people to use their guns in an uprising against their own government. And the case was decided in 2008. Hardly an example to be used for founding intent. All that jibber jabber that you keep referencing with nothing but additional opinion.
As I have pointed out to you, again, if you’re overthrowing the government, rising up against it, or leaving it, you are NOT adhering to the Constitution anyway.
Justify arms any way you like but don’t tell me the Founding Fathers wanted you to attack the U.S. government with them one day, and that’s the only reason they put it in there. That’s nonsense to anyone with an iota of knowledge of U.S. history.
DannyX
September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm
“……………. and meanwhile the Israeli planes sit on the runway ……………. ready to launch.”
What exactly do you mean by that?
getalife
September 12th, 2012
12:54 pm
scout,
Did they get our permission to take out the Syria site they bombed?
Please stop trying to get our President and show patriotism.
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
12:54 pm
gatalife @ 12:51
Exactly.
Bill Orvis White
September 12th, 2012
12:55 pm
You may add me to your Twitter Enemy List as well, Librul Jay: “5:10AM 9-12-2012 Americans killed by Islamists. King Hussein Obama shows no leadership on this. Amen, Bill”
I’m sorry that you, King Hussein Obama, Bawney Fwank, Hairy Read, Nanny Pelosi and thousands of other Useful Idiots LOVE to open ourselves up to jihadists. Remember, when they storm our shores, Bill White and others with common sense WILL NOT be around to protect you from the invaders. I’m ready for the evildoers when they trampled upon our soil. You are not and for that, you will be left vulnerable.
Amen,
Bill
Jay
September 12th, 2012
12:56 pm
If Romney is correct in his assertion, why aren’t other Republican leaders lining up to support him? With the exception of the hapless three above, who apparently leaped before looking, the absence of echoes on this matter is telling.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
Reuters reports that the Libyan government moved the ambassador and staff to a pre-arranged safe house, then delivered the location to the mob. Fortunately Obama gives words contradicting the initial words of his state department, using much the same language as Romney. Obama will probably do nothing more, but at least he is on the same page as Romney about sympathy for the mob.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
This is another failed moment by our cons to not unite and attack our President.
It is disgusting and sickening..
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
Forgot to post the link,
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-libya-usa-attack-idUSBRE88B0EI20120912
Jay
September 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
Welcome, that would make it a pre-sponse.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm
getalife:
scout,
“They don’t need our permission.”
And you would be correct.
UPGRAYEDD
September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm
Had the tables been turned, be assured that any accusations leveled at a Republican administration would be tantamount to treason, a breach of national security, proof of lack of patriotism and love for our nation.
By attacking Obama in matters of foreign policy at a time of emergency, Mitt Romney has clearly demonstrated that he will play partisan politics when unity is called for. Mr. Romney, you are a disgrace to America. Mr. Romney, you have lost my vote. Deplorable.
Newby
September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm
So…does Romney have ANY foreign policy other than “not-Obama”? Any at all?
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm
True, willie.
Telling that he was arguably the (W)orst ever, huh?
Donovan
September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm
When are you people going to realize that Muslims are our new world-wide enemy. “A small and savage group in Libya” attacked our ambassador, as Hillary Clinton said. No it wasn’t. It was the collective mind-set of Muslims that killed the man. It was the collective mind-set that overran the Cairo embassy, just like the embassy in Iran during the Carter regime. Yet the liberal State Dept. offers an apology for what happened and praises the Libyan Security Office for trying to get our ambassador to the hospital after his new security location was identified to the mob.
Your closet Muslim president facilitated the birth of a new radical Muslim regime in each one of those countries through its incompetent and naive foreign policy.
But what do I hear from this blog site and the throat of the Democrat Party? Nothing but admiration for Obama and State yet condemnation for Mitt Romney.
As I have said before. You people follow low class/low character ideas of life. Instead of looking at the realization of the situation, you would rather politicise the situation. Pathetic and disgusting.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm
Dear Jay @ 12:56, real leaders do not need sycophants.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
12:59 pm
“Enemy”
Right term bill.
The cons chose the enemy.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
1:00 pm
Adam & H.E. Penneypacker:
And the Supreme Court disagrees with you (as do I). Thanks for the exchange.
Following are just a few excerpts from the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Heller v. D.C.
“Page 24
b. SECURITY OF A FREE STATE
“The phrase “security of a free state” meant “security of a free polity” not security of each of the several states.”
“There are many reasons why the militia was thought to be “necessary for the security of a free state” ……….. Third, when the
able bodied men of a nation are trained in arms and organized, they are better able to resist tyranny.”
Page 25
3. RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PREFATORY CLAUSE AND OPERATIVE CLAUSE
“That history showed that the way tyrants had eliminated a militia consisting of all the able bodied men was not by
banning the militia but simply taking away the people’s arms, enabling a select militia or standing army to suppress
political opponents.”
Page 26
“It was understood across the political spectrum that the right helped to secure the ideal of a citizen militia, which might
be necessary to oppose an oppressive military force if the constitutional order broke down.”
Call It Like It Is
September 12th, 2012
1:01 pm
You know I don’t really care what the left or right say. All I know is several innocent Americans are now dead because a sect of people were offended by a trailer on you tube. We are told over and over to try and co-exist with these people, see their point of view yet time after time they show that this can’t be done. One does not try and live a rapid animal, the animal is put down. I to do not want our fine men and woman dying for a bunch of idiots. Close the embassy’s, get our people out and be done with this hell hole.
Thulsa Doom
September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm
It is very clear by their actions that the mob and radical elements in Libya and Cairo have no respect and no fear of consequence from this administration. It wasn’t too long ago that many on here were hailing the overthrow of Khadafy and the Egyptian leader as foreign policy victories for Obama. You might want to rethink that.
UPGRAYEDD
September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm
Much easier to cast aspersions from afar and in retrospect than to have to lead.
Romney and the Republicans. Great at telling you how not to do it. Not so good when they’re the ones “doing it”.
Get Real
September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm
Kammie…read the link and still believe the response, pre-sponse whatever spin you want to apply was quite weak and very sympathetic to Muslims which has been a theme of this administration (regardless of the situation)….
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm
As for your accusations of prior knowledge, I equate such a rant with those I hear from street corner lunatics casting about eternal damnation to those that don’t conform to their rigid world view.
You have come to know our scout all too well.
Paul
September 12th, 2012
1:03 pm
Newby
“does Romney have ANY foreign policy other than “not-Obama”? Any at all?”
Sure. It’s summed up by his supporters and the anti-Obama types here.
Other than ‘not Obama’ it also includes “show strong leadership.”
Good thing we live in such a simple world, yes?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 12th, 2012
1:03 pm
Thiis will be fodder for the debates, so team Romney better be working on a top notch response. I wonder if Republican wordsmith, spinmeister extraordinaire, and new CBS employee Frank Luntz is working on this.
CJ
September 12th, 2012
1:03 pm
ragnar,
I’ve read your comments carefully, but despite all the words, you don’t seem to be saying anything. Let Congress debate about whether to declare war on somebody? Act like we’re crazy so that people will respect us like they respected George W.?
With all due respect, you’re not making any sense.
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
1:04 pm
The con solution – Ready! Fire! Aim!
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
1:04 pm
Why won’t those killers in the mob over in Libya abide by US laws! Why! WHY! WHYYYYY!
Its ME
September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm
I can see it now. People are going to start trying to ban anti Islamic speech.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm
Popped into Mickey D’s to get a icy cold Dr Pepper and couldn’t find a single straw….
The GOP grasped the last one….
Newby
September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm
Is Mr. Digits quoting “activist judges” again?
A whisper in Medvedev's ear
September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm
How’s that Arab spring working out for you guys.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
1:06 pm
I think many Republicans will vote for our President now that romney blew the 3 am phone call.
I welcome these Republicans to our side because they are thinking country first.
I think the cons do not.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 12th, 2012
1:06 pm
…and very sympathetic to Muslims which has been a theme of this administration (regardless of the situation)….
Moving the goalposts.
The statement came before the attacks, no amount of deflection can change time.
Simple Truth
September 12th, 2012
1:06 pm
Let’s face it: right wing hatred of Muslims led to the you tube video. you tube video led to slaughter of Americans. Ergo, either tone down the hate from our side, or continue to face the hate from their side.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 12th, 2012
1:07 pm
Its ME
That’s what you see?
Well that’s pretty damn silly.
Get Real
September 12th, 2012
1:07 pm
The progressive solution…”can’t we all just be friends, have a flower”
Get Real
September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
Kammie….get out your feather duster…woo hoo
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
Adam & H.E. Penneypacker:
On final thought and then I have to run.
Are we anywhere near such a Constitutional crisis yet? Absolutely not and I certainly hope such a crisis never occurs.
However, the founding fathers were very wise in allowing us our last “check and balance” for the future.
Simple Truth
September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
The conservative solution: kill them all since they refuse to obey us.
You libs
September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
Kam- I hadn’t thought about Lunz. He obviously is not working with the Romney campaign.
Too much of a challenge for him even?
Jay
September 12th, 2012
1:09 pm
“Dear Jay @ 12:56, real leaders do not need sycophants.
They do, however, need followers. That’s kind of how that leadership thing is supposed to work, correct?
And if none of Romney’s fellow Republicans, including his own vice presidential nominee, are willing to follow his lead on this one, if in fact they’re all backpedaling away from him, what does it tell you?
Frederick Douglass
September 12th, 2012
1:09 pm
Romney stumbled and bungled all over Europe and the middle east on his cupcake foreign tour a few weeks back, now he wants to chime in when adults are speaking…..I can’t wait to hear the last of that sorry guy.
weetamoe
September 12th, 2012
1:09 pm
Overreacting much, Mr Bookman? No one has ever ever mocked Romney’s Mormon beliefs, the Cathy family’s Baptist beliefs? I personally have never been hurt by the ring kisser, mackerel snapper, bead counter stuff. Not thin skinned enough I guess, even though said skin is not lily white. I was a bit miffed by the black family–mom,dad, and kids–who called one of our kids an effin chink on a downtown Atlanta street, but not *hurt* enough to call for jihad. Oh. I sympathize with the TEA party too, and with the homosexual men who are subjected to that vile epithet hurled by those who hate conservatives.
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
1:09 pm
Republicans could at least allow facts to age for a minimum of 48 hours before applying their revisionist history.
Better yet, Mitt could at least allow history to occur before throwing out the false accusations.
DannyX
September 12th, 2012
1:10 pm
Obama now has a 7 point lead over Romney according to Gallup.
I thought that Obama’s lead would start going down next week but now I’m not so sure. Romney’s foolish statement will not win him any votes.
JKL2
September 12th, 2012
1:10 pm
they- Please elaborate on Obama and the Chicago school system.
He did actually work for the state before he became president.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
1:10 pm
The con solution:
Fight pure evil with any means necessary. I’m betting that State Department secuirty detail for the ambassador tried to do just that.
But then you wouldn’t know about such things !
Its ME
September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm
Granny, just wait people will call for it. Not saying it will happen though. Its damn silly that you can’t see it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm
Hey, how are those poor, poor Chicago school teachers doing?
We are forgetting about their pain in all of this international stuff.
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm
Towncrier must really dislike this thread. There’s so much friction.
pcBobby
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
Just like a pre-packaged frozen meal, Newt, Reince, Sam and Mitt had those statements prepared well ahead of time, unevenly cooked them, consumed them and regurgitated them well before dinner time. This is typical right-wing crap that has been shoved down our throats for well over 30 years. It gets more ridiculous with the passage of time. It’s unreal how many of their sheep have been regurgitating the prepared lines in traditional, new and social media.
Brosephus™
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
The constitution says if the government becomes so bad the people have the right to change it. Where are the constitutional buffs?
Don’t confuse the Declaration of Independence with the US Constitution. They are not the same document.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
Our leaders should have never been attacked by romney and Republicans know it.
This man has no foreign policy experience and hired failed bushies.
He is wreck less and dangerous.
Think country first cons like the rest of the Republicans and unite for a change.
Simple Truth
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
You don’t know who harbors “true evil” unless in retrospect, unless you’ve targeted those who have made it clear that they are your enemy.
Dispensing with a people because you perceive them all to be evil is evil in itself.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
And if none of Romney’s fellow Republicans, including his own vice presidential nominee, are willing to follow his lead on this one, if in fact they’re all backpedaling away from him, what does it tell you?
They regret not having a brokered convention.
Get Real
September 12th, 2012
1:13 pm
The progressive solution: “ignore reality that radical Islam will never change not matter how nice you are”
larry
September 12th, 2012
1:13 pm
Obama now has a 7 point lead over Romney according to Gallup.
But………but……………..Rassmuesen says……………………and ……..
but……………., oh nevermind.
Adam
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
Scout:
As you wish. here are the citations you requested:
From the Declaration of Independence:
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
A militant person may choose to interpret that as “See! They said use guns!” but actually they didn’t. The words used are careful to leave out violence as the only response, instead showing that the people wishing to leave are simply leaving and changing their government in order to stop oppression. There is no mention of guns as being necessary. You will also not find anything saying that guns are required to perform such action, nor that this is the reason for having a second amendment. Instead, what you’ll find is anti-English government sentiment, and other foreign governments, as the reason to have arms. For example:
“The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
….
“We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved;”
Basically after a laundry list of what’s wrong with the British government, they establish their own. The Declaration does not say anything about rising up against a representative government such as ours, and lists grievances that indicate that not being represented is one of the primary reasons for dissolution.
John Adams also had this to say in support of arms:
“To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.”
In other words, to PROTECT the government of the United States, not overthrow it.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”
In other words, any insistence that the current state of our government even remotely resembles the kind of abuses and oppression that was discussed by the founding fathers is nonsense, and is not to be used as justification for overthrow.
From the Constitution:
“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
In other words, taking up arms against the U.S. government is treason, just as I said.
Not that I think thsi will persuade YOU, Scout, but hopefully some people in here got an education that the ASSUMPTION that the right to bear arms was put in as a “Get out of Government Free” card is ridiculous.
Towncrier
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
“Towncrier, per your request, I am telling you that you are wrong. The embassy statement was released hours before any attack on the embassy in Cairo. It was not in an way a response to what later occurred.”
Okay, I have looked into this more and stand corrected. Technically, it appears from several accounts that there had been no attack before the Embassy statement was released. According to CBS News, it was released after an angry mob had assembled outside:
After a massive crowd of angry Egyptians began amassing outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, furious over an anti-Muslim film produced in the U.S., the embassy there released a statement saying it did not support any anti-religious efforts.
Now, aside from the crass and impulsive political actions by Romney, I don’t think it can be denied the Embassy statement is problematic:
“The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” an administration official told Politico.
It appears the White House was attempting to get ahead of an oft-used conservative trope on Democrats, namely that they have an apparent “apologize first” approach to foreign policy.
Does anyone know whether or not Embassies have ever released statements on their own or if that is not an uncommon occurrence?
Even more important might be a discussion about how we deal with and respond to mob violence wherever it occurs (as even in LA after the King verdicts) – for this has happened throughout history and it is generally an evil. Destruction of property is one thing (that can be replaced); killing people is quite another. And people should not be afraid to call these Muslims what they are – evil hypocrites (for they are not representing a “religion of peace”).
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
Jay – “Even Paul Ryan is refusing to echo Romney’s attack”
Would that be Mr. Confidence who is ramping up his campaign for re-election to Congress just in case the race for POTUS goes South?
JKL2
September 12th, 2012
1:15 pm
the cat- JKL2-keep posting your azzhatted statements. no on is taking you seriously dudette
You got nothing. Check.
Gold star for your Demwit playbook Rule #1 comments.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 12th, 2012
1:15 pm
Mr. Digits
“Fight pure evil with any means necessary.”
I suppose thats not in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John.
I see I haven’t been praying enough for your immortal soul..
.
.
.
Dear Lord
Please help Mr. Digits deal with his violent desires.
Wrap your arms about him and keep him safe, and
put a little of your light in his heart.
He sorely needs it.
Simple Truth
September 12th, 2012
1:15 pm
This is EXACTLY why we don’t need a “successful businessman” running our nation.
This isn’t the boardroom, words have consequences, and no one is concerned with statesmanship at the INC.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
1:16 pm
Amen.
Jm
September 12th, 2012
1:16 pm
USA USA USA!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 12th, 2012
1:16 pm
Its ME
It’s even sillier when yoy repeat it.
Get Real
September 12th, 2012
1:17 pm
Good one Get-a-Life…Obama the Community Organizer just had loads and loads of foreign policy experience before he started off on his apology tour….the Muslim world perceives that as a weakness…applying our standards to that part of the world is like forcing the proverbial square peg in the round hole…
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
1:17 pm
“He did actually work for the state before he became president.”
And that is an elaboration? What exactly did he do or not do that meets your assertion?
DannyX
September 12th, 2012
1:17 pm
“The progressive solution:”
What exactly is the conservative solution. People have been asking all morning and know one is willing to answer.
I guess we can spend another trillion dollars. That sure proved to be affective. Lets spend another trillion, who needs infrastructure, education and health care? Deficits don’t matter.
Mick
September 12th, 2012
1:17 pm
yaker
Equating this situation with a hostage crisis that lasted for 444 days is quite a stretch, even for you. Please, take a deep breath and recalculate…
Holy Moly!
September 12th, 2012
1:18 pm
What the republicans are saying:
They were just trying to score a cheap news cycle hit based on the embassy statement and now it’s just completely blown up – senior Republican foreign policy hand who called the statement an “utter disaster” and a ‘Lehman moment”
“I guess we see now that it is because they’re incompetent at talking effectively about foreign policy” said the Republican. “This is just unbelievable – when they decide to play on it they completely bungle it.”
“It’s bad,” said former aide to Sen. John McCain 2008 campaign. “Just on a factual level that the statement was not a response but preceding, or one could make the case precipitating. And just calling it a ‘disgrace’ doesn’t really cut it. Not ready for prime time.”
Former Bush state dept. Official told BuzzFeed “It wasn’t presidential of Romney to go political immediately – a tragedy of this magnitude should be something the nation collectively grieves before politics enters the conversation.”
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
1:18 pm
The progressive solution: “ignore reality that radical Islam will never change not matter how nice you are”
Get real, watch out! Uncle Barry is watching you!
Is that a missile armed drone flying over your head?
LOL…
getalife
September 12th, 2012
1:18 pm
Our President’s lead will grow and it might be a good idea if the gop turn on romney for their country.
Aquagirl
September 12th, 2012
1:19 pm
This is EXACTLY why we don’t need a “successful businessman” running our nation.
Romney would meet this challenge head on by issuing the entire mob pink slips. Fire ‘em all, we can outsource that mob for half the cost anyhow.
Simple Truth
September 12th, 2012
1:19 pm
I’m with DannyX.
Let’s hear a coherent plan from our conservative bloggers, one that incorporates financial responsibility as only a conservative can formulate. Let’s hear it. The rest of the conversation is drivel without it.
Newby
September 12th, 2012
1:19 pm
I’m still curious – conservative posers:
Romney’s response was the correct response for America.
Yes or no?
Thulsa Doom
September 12th, 2012
1:19 pm
Seems kinda odd that some savages attack our consulate and embassy in 2 different Muslim nations- killing 4 Americans, and the focus of Jay and others is on Romney’s statements as opposed to the far weightier matter of how and why did this happen and what is President Obama going to do about it. Those are the questions that need to be asked and answered. Droning on about statements from a man who is not the president is just a distraction and a sideshow.
Brosephus™
September 12th, 2012
1:19 pm
Even Paul Ryan is refusing to echo Romney’s attack
Well, you have to consider that Paul Ryan is still running for his House seat in a state that may vote, once again, for the Democratic Presidential candidate. At some point, self preservation will kick in, and he will probably hang Romney out to dry.
Ahem
September 12th, 2012
1:20 pm
Shame on you, Jay. As you should now know, Romney’s first statement was in reaction to the statement released by the embassy in Cairo and NOT about the attacks. Will you be man enough to further revise and update or will you just let that lie ripen like the biased media? Will you?
Goldie
September 12th, 2012
1:20 pm
“This is the simple reality of presidential politics in 2012. Americans don’t want to give the White House back to the Republicans because they remember the Bush era all too well. If they continue to be disappointed at the polls, conservatives will eventually recognize this problem and grope toward some sort of solution. Until then, the fault for their party’s underperformance will lie not in the stars or the structure of our society but in their own stubborn selves.” ~Ross Douthat, NY Times op-ed
Cons, it’s your own stubborn selves that will bring your Party down… “singin’ bye bye Miss American pie!”
Adam
September 12th, 2012
1:20 pm
and [the United States] shall protect each of them [the States] against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
1:20 pm
JKL2
Your track record of making assertion and being unable to back them up with anything more than talking points and rhetoric is nothing new.
No offense, but even Stevie Wonder and you can see that
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 12th, 2012
1:20 pm
Donovan – “You people follow low class/low character ideas of life. Instead of looking at the realization of the situation, you would rather politicise the situation. Pathetic and disgusting.”
I agree, when are you planning to write to Gingrich and Romney about their deplorable actions?
Jm
September 12th, 2012
1:21 pm
Stop attacking Romney
Where’s your patriotism libs.
Newby
September 12th, 2012
1:21 pm
sorry – posters, not posers – honest error.