Romney claims Obama sympathizes with attack on U.S.
UPDATE 10:20: In a press conference, Romney just claimed that “it is never too early to condemn” attacks on U.S. personnel. Apparently, “never too early” means condemning the attacks before they have even occurred. He also made it pretty clear that no apology for his statements will be forthcoming.
He is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.
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With four American diplomats dead in Libya, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, the United States has in effect come under attack overseas. The response of the Mitt Romney campaign has been to accuse the Obama administration of sympathizing with the attackers.
That charge is grotesque. It is also factually incorrect. It can be made correct only by going back in time and rearranging events to suit the Romney narrative, and that is not going to happen. Let’s take a look at how the tragic events in question played out:
1.) Alarmed at reports of rising anger in Egypt over an anti-Islamic film made in the United States, the U.S. embassy in Cairo tries to calm things Tuesday morning with a statement in which it “condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
2.) Hours AFTER that statement is released, as the Wall Street Journal reports, protesters in Cairo breach the walls of the embassy and pull down the American flag.
3.) Attacks in Libya — also launched well AFTER the embassy statement — end in the tragic death of four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador. They died in service to our country.
4.) Romney quickly puts out a statement calling it “disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
5.) In the actual first U.S. response to the attacks, released about the same time as the Romney statement, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemns the violence in no uncertain terms:
“Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”
The charge that an American president sympathizes with those who attacked this country should not be made easily. In fact, under the circumstances it is a charge that should not have been made at all. It would seem to me that an apology is in order from former Gov. Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Preibus, Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens and others who made such an unfounded charge at such a delicate time.
– Jay Bookman
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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
10:42 am
Michael,
Couldn’t agree more…since early beginnings, religion has poisoned everything it touches at some point in some way…zealots here, zealots there….everywhere a zealot..
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
10:42 am
Why is it that the left is more distressed by the criticism of conservatives than by the murderous attack by the practitioners of the Religion of Peace?
rightwingextreme
September 12th, 2012
10:42 am
USinUK – thug with a uterus … and former Girl Scout
“The koran says is is prefectly ok to lie and use whatever means to “infiltrate” the infidels so that those who will not convert can be slaughtered. ”
and the bible says the same – it says non-believers should be killed, as well –
so, I’ll wait for you to start condemning christians now …
You are incorrect about the Bible. No where in the New Testament does it call for Christians to kill anyone. No where.
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
10:42 am
The Reaganesque response to mere treats against an embassy would be “swift retribution.”
Or cutting and running with tail between legs as when hundreds of US marines were attacked and killed in their barracks in Lebanon?
Poor rags, he truly thinks everyone is as
forgetfulignorant on these matters as he…Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
liz, your hatred of Christians is duly noted. Thank for your honesty. Do you have anything else to add to the discussion?
Aquagirl
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
getalife: He is not my president!
Well, he’s the guy who was elected according to our procedures spelled out in the Constitution. If you deny that document go join your kindred in Benghazi.
DannyX
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
“The koran says is is prefectly ok to lie and use whatever means to “infiltrate” the infidels so that those who will not convert can be slaughtered. ”
Rockfish since you are an expert on the Koran would you tell us what it says about Jesus?
Paul
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
Ben
Gotta give credit where credit is due.
As in your 10:33 to liz.
But I think she’s just trolling.
You know what that is, don’t you?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
Well, I just wonder about these people that call theirselfs J. Christopher Stevens or E. Throckmorton Sanger and stuff like that. Their parents must of give them a really filthy first name for them not to want to use them. I wonder why they use the initial at all. If they’re ashamed of the first name then they need to get rid of it in court or at least don’t give its initial. All I can figure is it sounds snooty and stuck-up and people that use initials like that must want other people to think they’re high class or rich or something.
I know this don’t have much to do with Bookman’s point, but this thing’s been bugging the cr@p out of me all my life and I just had to come out with it sorta like somebody’s been stopped up all their life and finally gets a chance to let it all blow out and fills up a whole bathroom.
So I’ll just sign off by saying just call me R. Convert. Have a good Hump Day everybody.
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
Rags
You mean retreat not “retribution”. Guess you conveniently forget Lebanon.
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
Why is it that
the left is more distressed by the criticism of conservatives than by the murderous attack by the practitioners of the Religion of Peaceyou prevaricate so much?retiredds
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
Jay, the R’s are panicking. They are down in the polls. They are down in the electoral college numbers. As the R’s get further backed into the corner they will rant, rave, lie, beg, steal …. whatever it takes to try to win the election. If anyone believes what drivel they espouse they do it at their own risk.
The R’s have nothing to offer America and the general public (and independent voters) are beginning to see them for what they are: power hungry and liars. Heck, they can’t even tell the country what their economic plan is. But we know: the failed supply-side, trickle-down, economic theory that has never worked over the long term. So, let them rant and rave, it provides this reader with most amusing reading.
Ewrin's cat
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
4 Americans dead at the hands of those we helped free…and we’re being critical of Romney ?
got it!
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
10:43 am
Dear Paul @ 10:41, you must have been policy advisor for Jimmy Carter.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:44 am
“Why is it that the left is more distressed by the criticism of conservatives than by the murderous attack by the practitioners of the Religion of Peace?”
I’ll take a stab at that one…
Because they are morons.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
10:44 am
Our real leaders are speaking.
Pay attention cons.
Jay
September 12th, 2012
10:44 am
“The Reaganesque response to mere treats against an embassy would be “swift retribution.”
What utter and absolute nonsense. On April 18, 1983, a car bomb destroyed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. It wasn’t a “mere threat”, it was an attack that killed 63 people, including 17 Americans. Was there “swift retribution” by then President Reagan? No, there was not. Aid to Lebanon was increased.
In fact, the bombing was almost certainly carried out under orders by top Iranian officials. By the end of his presidency, Reagan was shipping arms to those very same Iranians, an “arms for hostages” deal.
That, sir, is actual history. Your attempt to rewrite that history is shameful and exceedingly weak.
CJ
September 12th, 2012
10:44 am
Jay: “[Romney] is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.”
Romney today is reminding me about how McCain dealt with the economic crash in the midst of his 2008 presidential campaign–cancelling his campaign (while still campaigning), mishandling a conversation with Obama about a possible joint statement, calling an unnecessary meeting with President Bush in which he asked little to no questions…
Every move by McCain, at the time, was obviously political with little to no regard to what Americans were going through. One would think that Romney would be able to watch how McCain blundered during that crisis and avoid making the same mistakes. Unfortunately, like McCain, when given an opportunity to show some bipartisanship, decency, and leadership, Romney is demonstrating the opposite.
Newby
September 12th, 2012
10:44 am
Jhunt163
September 12th, 2012
10:34 am
“ the U.S. embassy in Cairo tries to calm things Tuesday morning with a statement “
So you are saying this was not the first official US response???
Jhunt163 – The word “response” means it has to come AFTER the event you’re responding to, not before – got it?
Jm
September 12th, 2012
10:44 am
Can we have a link to this controversial movie video that is widely available?
Anyone?
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:45 am
“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country……”
and it has – it was the Islamic world that was at the forefront of medicine and discovery (despite the Catholic church trying to destroy all their studies) … in fact, IIRC, the idea for the cure to small pox (injecting some of the virus under the skin) was initially discovered in Turkey
N-GA
September 12th, 2012
10:45 am
So very telling….the GOP uses the deaths of American diplomats to try to sell their message. It says much, much more about them and their lack of character than anything else.
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:45 am
http://www.experiment-resources.com/islamic-medicine.html
shoot – forgot the linkee
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
10:45 am
Dear JamVet and Both, I would agree with your averment that in Lebanon Reagan looked more like Carter and Obama than he looked like Reagan. Perhaps we can agree that Obama’s response in Egypt and Libya has been as flaccid.
H. E. Pennypacker
September 12th, 2012
10:46 am
Yes Ragnar, I do recall Reagan launched a few shells into Lebanon, pulled the Marines off land onto boats and then punished Iran for their sponsorship of Hezbollah and the tension they fomented by selling arms to them.
Just Saying..
September 12th, 2012
10:46 am
Your choice for most egregious:
-Romney making political hay from the death of a US Ambassador.
or
-Romney chickenhawks beating war drums for someone else’s children to die for symbolism.
Verbal Kint
September 12th, 2012
10:46 am
That’s great and all about Romney’s response, Jay, but tell me: Why did the State Dept let the Cairo embassay release that statement in the first place? Don’t things have to go through the State Department for pronouncements like that or are they free to send out whatever they want? Sounds to me like bad management.
And….what is Obama going to do about this besides write a letter condemning the perps? Isn’t attacking another country’s embassy and killing it’s members an act of war? What’s Obama going to do about this?…That’s the question that needs to be asked.
liz
September 12th, 2012
10:46 am
I hope we take this opportunity to start taxing churches.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
10:47 am
Leading from behind…never understood that phrase….except to the extent that the view never changes…in BO’s case, it’s nonsense and whatever it means (as opposed to having no backbone in most major decisions of this presidency) is clearly not winning friends and influencing people.
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
10:47 am
He is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.
Mitt is consistent, to a fault. And that is not a compliment. He’s consistently a liar and not worthy of the Office of the President of these United States.
And, release your tax returns, Mitt. What are you so ashamed of in those returns.
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
10:47 am
Talk about depraved!
Rockfish actually wrote that 10:32????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is a perfect example of the anti-American fervor that has made the GOP so toxic.
I excoriated GWB endlessly, but I would NEVER, EVER<,EVER have written that he was not my president.
The guy is sick with a capital S…
getalife
September 12th, 2012
10:47 am
jm,
You can find it using Google.
I refuse to post it again.
Paul
September 12th, 2012
10:48 am
ragnar
Given your 10:43, I’d be surprised if you were an advisor to anyone.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:48 am
Libs go on this blog and blast Christians all day every day, 24/7. Somebody takes a harmless poke at islam, though, and now they “have blood on their hands.” Guess we just can’t allow criticism of mohammad.
LMAO
Jay
September 12th, 2012
10:49 am
CJ, you make a good point. This is a test of Romney’s ability to function in a fast-moving crisis. He and his staff have failed that test.
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:49 am
“You are incorrect about the Bible. No where in the New Testament does it call for Christians to kill anyone. No where.”
oh … so the Old Testament (you know, the one the Right constantly uses to justify gay bashing) DOESN’T count in this particular case??? I mean, considering the love affair the right has with selected laws of Leviticus, I thought the Old Testament laws were still in play …
CJ
September 12th, 2012
10:49 am
Perhaps we can agree that Obama’s response in Egypt and Libya has been as flaccid.
Ragnar,
Out of curiosity, what is your recommended response?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
September 12th, 2012
10:49 am
Romney.
Good lord almighty, what a boob.
Newby
September 12th, 2012
10:49 am
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:41 am
JamVet @ 10:37…
“He also killed 80-some innocent Americans at the Branch davidian compund in Waco, TX. Don’t forget about that.”
And Rush said he was fat! That has nothing to do with anything, too!
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
10:50 am
Jay @ 10:49
You beat me to it. I was going to say the Reagan “treated” Iran by selling them weapons.
Welcome to the Occupation
September 12th, 2012
10:50 am
He is simply wrong on this. Wrong factually, wrong politically, wrong as a matter of simple decency. He has bungled this badly, and is doubling down on the bungle.
As Jonathan Alter said last night on some show: it’s “beneath contempt”.
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
10:50 am
What is Obama going to do, the cons exclaim. Well, obviously he will find out which country is responsible for this terrorist attack and then invade them. Oops! Never mind. Just another Bush flashback.
Jm
September 12th, 2012
10:51 am
Rockfish 10:32
You walked right into that buzzsaw
That was a dumb statement
Paul
September 12th, 2012
10:51 am
USinUK 10:49
I was wondering how you were going to address that.
Well played, madam!
Cosby
September 12th, 2012
10:51 am
The Obama foreighn policy continues to prevail with total unrest in many parts of the world with genncide carried on. The Attacks on Egypt and now Libya should be viewed as attacks on the USA and if not, very close, to acts of war. But lets defend Barry Soetoro aka Obama and his bow down foreign policy and kissing up to muslims while Egypt, Syria, Liby, Iran and others are in trumoil and the muslim’s take over with genocide….yeo the same policy good old jimmy followed…next on the horizen is trumoil in the USA..wait..see Chicago..it is here. Damn, there is that tinglely feeling down the leg for Obama again…by th way Jay, see Chamberlain just prior to WWI…same philosphy of your loving buddy Barry..sad, damn sad
Jay
September 12th, 2012
10:51 am
Bret Baier on Fox just made the point that if the embassy statement came before the protests, Romney’s criticism becomes problematic. He phrased it in a way to suggest that we just don’t know yet when that statement was made.
Well, we do know. He just isn’t willing to break it to his audience yet.
Ewrin's cat
September 12th, 2012
10:52 am
He and his staff have failed that test.
He’s with good company then…right beside Obama
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:52 am
But….but…..but….Obama said when elected he was going to repair our image all around the world!!! Why do the nice peaceful muslims still hate us???
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
10:52 am
LIZ,
Amen to that…it’s aburd the level of interference…with tax free cash…separation of church and state eh?
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
10:52 am
Reagan looked more like
Carter and Obama than he looked likeReagan.What is wrong with you?
Must you play the village idiot just to worship Ronnie?
Good gawd, man quit groveling. It is unbecoming…
And would someone tell Benji, that his anti-government, anti-US hero David Koresh is burning in hell because he burned those women and children alive?
Thank you.
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
10:52 am
Guess we just can’t allow criticism of mohammad.
Did someone block Ben from releasing his own movie about Islam.
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:53 am
Paul – 10:51 – I mean, SERIOUSLY … they la-la-LOVE Leviticus when it suits their purposes … but you bring up barbecue and they say “but that’s the OLD testament”
getalife
September 12th, 2012
10:53 am
romney blamed America.
I thought he would correct this blame this morning but failed.
Then he said we should not allow the Arab Spring to turn to Arab winter.
What in the world does that mean?
Dumber than w.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
10:53 am
Dear Jay @ 10:44, perhaps you forget that in 1984 the great threat in the world was not Islamism, but Communism. Give Reagan credit for his laser-like focus on wiping out the larger threat. I agree that his response to the Lebanon attack was lousy. I am not accusing you of taking the Lebanon attack “out of context,” and Peggy Noonan’s book covers the missteps before the attack quite well. As to the consequences of the attack, by pulling out of Lebanon literally thousands on non-Americans died there over the next decade. A more “Reaganesque” response would have been better.
A Ford-esque Mayaguez response may be appropriate. A Reagan-esque Granada response may be appropriate. A Johnson-esque Pueblo response, or a Carter-esque Pakistan or Iran response is not appropriate, and that is exactly what we are getting from this poor excuse for a leader.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:53 am
Jay, you need to anable some type of polling functionality on your blog. It would be a hoot to ask your lib parrots which is more dangerous, Christianity or islam.
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:54 am
“Good lord almighty, what a boob.”
oi, madam!! I have two of those and cherish them … don’t call Romney something I cherish!
GT
September 12th, 2012
10:55 am
Desperation and a knowledge that some in this country will take him at his, not so strong, word. The Republicans live in a soap opera world, what is bad for the country is good for Republican ratings which they desperately need. To exercise the emotions of this country in this time crisis is irresponsible and shows a huge lack of maturity, respect and greed on the part of a half baked candidate and his loosely organized shadow of a political party.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
10:55 am
Dear Jay, have I read your mindset correctly, that you are more horrified by Romney’s criticism than you are by the US response to the attacks?
Rockfish
September 12th, 2012
10:55 am
USinUK:
and the bible says the same – it says non-believers should be killed, as well –
Please give me a New Testamant reference. I doubt you even own a Bible–much less have read it. The Old Testament is about the “ites” attacking Israel BTW.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:55 am
JamVet,
Janet Reno and Bill Clinton burned those women and children in Waco.
Facts are stubborn things, Jammy-poo.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
10:55 am
JAY,
I guess this is the negative back in forth of the day…and will change zero minds about who will vote for whom….those who already made up their minds who to vote for (all on this site) will defend anything their side stands for…however absurd…
Neither one of them have any real leadership skills to get much done…if Romney is elected, he will simply piss off the folks BO didn’t piss off ..
CJ
September 12th, 2012
10:56 am
ragnar,
I’ll ask you again. How do you recommend that the Obama administration respond to this attack? What is the “Reaganesque” response, as you see it?
Jay
September 12th, 2012
10:56 am
Peggy Noonan phrases it delicately for her Fox listeners: “I don’t think Romney has done himself any favors” in using this situation so aggressively.
Doggone/GA
September 12th, 2012
10:56 am
“Please give me a New Testamant reference.”
Oh! so now – all of a sudden – the Old Testament is NOT in the Bible. That’s going to come as a HUGE surprise to a LOT of Christians.
Paul
September 12th, 2012
10:57 am
CJ
“Ragnar,
Out of curiosity, what is your recommended response?”
As you can see from the 10:53, the answer is “criticize Obama.”
blahblahblah
September 12th, 2012
10:57 am
I’m no fan of Obama, but the knee jerking that occurred from the right was out of bounds. In this 21st century Twitter-culture, it seems like no one is willing to take a breath before spouting off online. SMH.
Fly-On-The-Wall
September 12th, 2012
10:57 am
It looks like the GOP is trying to ‘Hone the Sword of Truth with Fiction’ (as a cheap play on Jay’s earlier topic).
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
10:58 am
One perceives that the leftists intend to conceal Fearless Leader’s cowardice by criticizing the political opposition.
Rockfish
September 12th, 2012
10:58 am
Ben Shockley:
You are a wise man, sir.
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 12th, 2012
10:58 am
Verbal Kint – ” Isn’t attacking another country’s embassy and killing it’s members an act of war? What’s Obama going to do about this?…”
What do you want him to do, invade? I’m sure you will be first in line to volunteer so that those soldiers who have already served in Iraq and Afghanistan for over a decade can get a break. Tell me, which recruiting post will you be visiting today?
They BOTH suck
September 12th, 2012
10:58 am
Rags
Egypt and Libya imo are going to be very “testy” for the US.
Of course, we did not intervene in Egypt. We watched the people and then the military turn on the government until it was no more.
We did intervene in Libya, which quickened the pace of what went on in Egypt. I am not so sure we should have intervened in Libya, however I assume that NATO thought it would lead to less deaths had we not intervened.
While I would agree that a percentage of the people wanting to topple the government in the ME are not for freedom, but in some cases for a more stricter regime than is in place, I’m not sure if the US should step in to prop up dictators.
Of course, the US has done just that for many years and it has certainly came with mixed results. Our foreign policy at times, seems to bite us in the @ss.
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:58 am
“Please give me a New Testamant reference. I doubt you even own a Bible–much less have read it. The Old Testament is about the “ites” attacking Israel BTW.”
like I said – you can’t have it both ways – you can’t cite Leviticus as justification for condemnation of gays (while conveniently ignoring its proscription on barbecue and cheeseburgers) THEN say that the OT doesn’t count.
as for not having a Bible – 5 years of Southern Baptist school … 4 years of Catholic school … I know my Bible and theology, thankyewverymuch
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
10:58 am
ROCKFISH,
What about the Old (I’m the only God and the like) Testiment?
I read this one and my most memorable take away was all the “begetting” that seemed to consume an inordinate amount of space…
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
September 12th, 2012
10:59 am
What I want to know is how much foreign aid are we giving to these Muslim countries? Probably billions!! Do not care if it was Bush or Obama, stop giving them the entitlement billions. Get our people out from over there immediately. Then let the deranged religious zealots kill each other if they desire.You can never change them or others to a democracy, it will never happen!
nelson
September 12th, 2012
10:59 am
Mitt is right. The policy of the current administration towards the Muslim world has not worked. They are an evil empire and that is all there is to it.
Diplomacy with Muslims is wasted rhetoric.
We have just had a commeneration of the 9-11 on the World trade Center and this latest act of violence proves the attitudes of the Middle East has not changed.
Newby
September 12th, 2012
10:59 am
Does it mean anything that no conservative poster has attempted to justify Romney’s remarks?
Does it mean anything that no conservative poster has really even mentioned Romney?
If even the conservative posters will not support Romney on this, does that mean Romney’s done?
liz
September 12th, 2012
10:59 am
Matthew 5:44-”But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”
Have a blessed day and don’t forget to pray for your enemies.
Ben Shockley
September 12th, 2012
10:59 am
liz, if (God forbid) you’re ever in an accident and have to be taken to the emergency room at a Christian-funded hospital, are you going to refuse treatment? we need to know, in case you’re incapacitated when you get there.
Or maybe they’ll take you to one of the many muslim-funded hospitals we have.
LMAO
USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout
September 12th, 2012
10:59 am
“Peggy Noonan phrases it delicately for her Fox listeners: “I don’t think Romney has done himself any favors” in using this situation so aggressively.”
holy moses … Romney lost the Nooners???
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
11:00 am
The mispelling of Testament confirms my limited knowledge and disinterest of any story book worshipped by any religion…my bad.
H. E. Pennypacker
September 12th, 2012
11:00 am
I think Ragnar is suggesting we re-invade Grenada to flex our might to the world.
Please articulate your suggested “Reagan” like response.
CJ
September 12th, 2012
11:01 am
ragnar,
You continue to criticize Obama’s response, or lack thereof, to this crisis–one that is only hours in the making.
So again, how do you recommend that the Obama administration respond? What is the “Reaganesque” response, as you see it?
Paul
September 12th, 2012
11:02 am
Newby
“Does it mean anything that no conservative poster has attempted to justify Romney’s remarks?”
Yeah, it means things are normal on Jay’s blog.
Jay
September 12th, 2012
11:03 am
Ragnar, would you like to address your previous distortion of history?
Or would you prefer to just pretend it never happened?
Just Saying..
September 12th, 2012
11:04 am
“Isn’t attacking another country’s embassy and killing it’s members an act of war?”
Verbal- You first.
Newt, Dick, Rush, Saxby, Stateside George, and Mitt will be right behind you. I promise.
Lord Help Us
September 12th, 2012
11:04 am
‘What is the “Reaganesque” response, as you see it?’
Cons will watch what Obama does…and criticize it…whatever it is….
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
11:05 am
BEN,
There exists an little diddy called EMTALA which means they have to treat you..unless you are an insititution (like federally run facilities) that don’t take Medicare etcetera..
I think Liz is safe and if she is turned away because she thinks religion is a joke, they will pay a settlement of substantial value per case law on this issue…
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
11:05 am
Dear Paul @ 10:57, my response @ 10:32 was pretty specific, and you previously noted it. You now dishonestly pretend it did not exist.
Perhaps you are asking, “well, since Obama did nothing while the attack was going on, what is the appropriate response going forward?” Why not ask Congress for a declaration of war? With appropriate debate. Debate gives time for the diplomatic channels to affect some retribution against the mobs. But it also sends an appropriate message to thug-mobs all over the world. If we are not willing to stand up for anything, why should anyone in the world respect us?
Welcome to the Occupation
September 12th, 2012
11:05 am
Quite a lot going on. Would be interesting to hear your take, Jay, on the latest gambit by Bibi to manufacture a political rift here to his advantage, and Obama’s response.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
“condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”
Boo Hoo !
Sorry, Jay but the above statement is a lie because the U.S. rarely (if ever) says anything to defend the “feelings” of Christians who believe they have been insulted in some way whether it’s in this country or elsewhere. Christians are supposed to just “get over it”.
Radical Islamists however, resort to their primary method of response ………… murderous meyhem ………. thus revealing themselves for the savages they are.
ragnar danneskjold
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
Just a continuation of the world-wide apology tour – the leftists are madder at Romney for criticizing than they are at the mobs for killing.
Doggone/GA
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
“Cons will watch what Obama does…and criticize it…whatever it is….”
If they intend to “follow their leader” they need to get busy and criticize him BEFORE he does it
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
One perceives that the leftists intend to conceal Fearless Leader’s cowardice by criticizing the political opposition.
Ragnar being the “one” with the failed powers of perception, that is.
Rightwing Troll
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
“Dear Jay, have I read your mindset correctly, that you are more horrified by Romney’s criticism than you are by the US response to the attacks?”
As per the usual the Bork loving Rags is completely off base… I’d say the reaction Mittens trying to etch a sketch this incident into political capital is puzzling and sad, not being “horrified”, horrified is the reaction to the incident itself.
As for trying to get any sort of recommendation from Rags or any of the other resident wingnuts on what Mittens could do better that would bring better results… good luck with that.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
BEN,
My bad…I misread your statement which suggests Liz will refuse treatment…:-) why she would do that defies logic but I retract comment about EMTALA..
Ellsworth Monkton Toohey
September 12th, 2012
11:06 am
The grave that is the Romney/Ryan campaign just gets deeper and deeper. Me likey.
JamVet
September 12th, 2012
11:07 am
Give Reagan credit for his laser-like focus on wiping out the larger threat.
Incredible.
The man armed every right wing dictator known and assisted in the murders of untold numbers of innocent people around the world, all because of the McCarthites demented RED SCARE!!!!
Tricky Dick, who knew MUCH more about these matters than the B-Grade actor. noted that a) Regan was mentally lacking and b) that he got way too much credit for the fall of the Soviet Union.
But not in the neocon’s made up Lalaland, where Ronnie walked on water!
TaxPayer
September 12th, 2012
11:07 am
ragnar,
You missed a spot on Mitt’s left foot.
getalife
September 12th, 2012
11:07 am
“Anti-Islam filmmaker in hiding after protests”
http://www.floridatoday.com/usatoday/article/57755100?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|p
romney’s friend.
Butch Cassidy (I)
September 12th, 2012
11:08 am
ragnar dannesgold – ” If we are not willing to stand up for anything, why should anyone in the world respect us?”
Great, but maybe we need to wait for Romneys tax cuts to kick in before we start marching all over the globe again. Afterall, it takes a lot of reduced revenue to fund multiple military campaigns.