Murdoch to Romney: Show some independence

Rupert Murdoch has taken to Twitter this morning to offer Mitt Romney some unsolicited political advice:

@rupertmurdoch Retrospect; Conventions mixed but net big win for democrats. Michelle O and Clinton the big stars. Bill brilliant, Hillary away until 016.

@rupertmurdoch Election: Romney must draw clear line: offer specific path to restore American dream versus ugly Obama class war with jobs disappearing.

‏@rupertmurdoch Election: To win Romney must open big tent to sympathetic families. Stop fearing far right which has nowhere else to go. Otherwise no hope

The Fox News mogul joins a chorus of conservative voices expressing frustration with Romney’s stubborn refusal to provide details about any number of proposed policies. Every candidate likes to keep things as vague as possible, but as a reading of the Romney campaign website confirms, the man from Massachusetts takes meaningless blather to a ‘hole ‘nother level.

His Afghanistan policy, like his Iraq policy and Syria policy and Iran policy, amounts to a promise to be betterer and bestest than Obama. His economic policy is a promise to produce 12 million jobs, with little indication how that might be accomplished. On “Meet the Press” over the weekend, he accidentally stumbled into specifics on health care, promising to retain ObamaCare provisions extending parental health insurance to those 26 and younger and protecting those with pre-existing conditions, only to have his campaign release a statement a few hours later retracting every word. And he refuses to identify even one tax loophole that might be closed under his much-ballyhooed tax reform plan.

As he told a curious David Gregory on MTP, “Well, the specifics are these which is those principles I described are the heart of my policy.” I’m not sure, but I think that’s another way of saying “We’ve told you people all you need to know.”

In his tweets urging Romney to “draw clear line: offer specific path,” Murdoch hits on one probable cause for the GOP nominee’s aversion to specifics: “Stop fearing far right which has nowhere else to go.”

Romney understands that the policy specifics that would be acceptable to his party’s base would be unacceptable to the general-election voter, and vice versa. So he grimly refuses to go there, judging that the cost of silence will be lower than the cost of clarity. His entire presidential campaign has been built around the goal of establishing himself as “severely conservative,” to use his own description, and he has internalized that goal to such a degree that he simply doesn’t dare to put that reputation at risk.

The problem is, there’s no reason to believe that he would show any more independence while governing than he has in campaigning. As Grover Norquist said back in February, “We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don’t need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. … We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don’t need someone to think it up or design it.”

That’s the job description that Romney is attempting to fill.

– Jay Bookman

(h/t to Alexander Burns at Politico)

183 comments Add your comment

Jm

September 11th, 2012
8:22 am

I guess 9/11 I passé for liberals.

RIP Tommy Sinton.

Don’t forget.

Aquagirl

September 11th, 2012
8:23 am

Stop fearing far right which has nowhere else to go

They can always hang out here. I’m sure Jay will make the sacrifice for the good of the country.

Doggone/GA

September 11th, 2012
8:26 am

“I guess 9/11 I passé for liberals”

blogspot.com is ready when you are

Welcome to the Occupation

September 11th, 2012
8:27 am

but as a reading of the Romney campaign website confirms, the man from Massachusetts takes meaningless blather to a ‘hole ‘nother level

He’s the most corporatist candidate we’ve ever had, what do you expect?

GA Dawg

September 11th, 2012
8:27 am

U LIBRALS R ANTIAMERICAN!!!

Jay

September 11th, 2012
8:27 am

Right, jm. You have the true spirit of 9/11 in your heart, which is to use it to score political points against your fellow Americans.

Sick.

Aquagirl

September 11th, 2012
8:29 am

blogspot.com is ready when you are

So is the other blog prominently listed on the AJC home page. Two clicks and you could be there. Lazy much?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
8:30 am

Just what we need…A Secret Plan…

Stuff like that could bring us another 9/11.

The best thing we can do for those who died on 9/11 and in the wars
started thereafter is to make sure it never happens again.

Yes, don’t forget.

Keep the GOP away from our National Security.

TaxPayer

September 11th, 2012
8:33 am

How many Republicans would vote for their party’s true leaders, Norquist or one of the Koch boys, et al.

Patrick

September 11th, 2012
8:35 am

“To win Romney must open big tent to sympathetic families. Stop fearing far right which has nowhere else to go. Otherwise no hope”

Methinks it is a little to late for Mitt to take this prudent advice…

HDB

September 11th, 2012
8:35 am

Romney can’t tell us where he’s planning to take the nation….because he doesn’t know where HE’s going!! He states that MassCare should be implemented nationwide…and when it’s done, he rejects it…then comes back and says he’ll keep provisions of it….then refutes he said the statement only hours after he made it….

Romney needs a new compass…….

one and only

September 11th, 2012
8:37 am

good morning,,have a good day

stands for decibels

September 11th, 2012
8:38 am

the man from Massachusetts takes meaningless blather to a ‘hole ‘nother level.

[golf clap]

Beautiful on so many levels.

/drive-by

Jay

September 11th, 2012
8:39 am

As to that NYTimes op-ed piece, its allegations are troubling. However, blaming the Bush administration for failing to halt the 9/11 attacks is a major step, and I’m not ready to do that based on what we’ve seen so far. The briefings and intel that Kurt Eichenwald mentions in his piece — http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1&hp — ought to be released in as much detail as possible, and perhaps then we can judge.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 11th, 2012
8:41 am

Well Jay, what do you expect that libural media mongrol Murdoch to be saying about Mitt. Oh post 927 on the Obama campaign. :lol: :lol:

RB from Gwinnett

September 11th, 2012
8:43 am

Jay, “use it to score political points against your fellow Americans”

Isn’t that what you do here pretty much 6.5 days a week?

USMC

September 11th, 2012
8:43 am

“The Fox News mogul joins a chorus of conservative voices expressing frustration with Romney’s stubborn refusal to provide details about any number of proposed policies.”–JAY BOOKMAN

You mean the kind of details like HOPE & CHANGE… right Jay?

Obama has never detailed anything he has proposed…

Obamacare… “we have to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it.”–Nancy Pilosi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

Jay, you always end up losing because of your INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY. :-)

RB from Gwinnett

September 11th, 2012
8:47 am

“I’m not ready to do that based on what we’ve seen so far”

But you will make sure it gets as much print space as possible by posting it here though wont you?!! How exactly are you any different from the birthers you whine about?

TaxPayer

September 11th, 2012
8:49 am

In 1962, the top 1% had 125 times the net worth of the median household. That shot up to 288 times by 2010, according to a new report by the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute.

That trend is happening for two reasons: Not only are the rich getting richer, but the middle class is also getting poorer.

And according to Republicans, the middle class have no one to blame but themselves and the wealthy even deserve a bigger tax cut because they’re just awesome, given their magical money making wonderfulness.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
8:50 am

USMC

Details?

Like the details in President Clintons speech that Britt Hume called too “wonky”?

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 11th, 2012
8:52 am

yes, because the only way you can observe 9/11 is how JM requires you to … those of us who DON’T like to talk about it are FORCED to just to make JM happy

Welcome to the Occupation

September 11th, 2012
8:53 am

RB: “But you will make sure it gets as much print space as possible by posting it here though wont you?!! How exactly are you any different from the birthers you whine about?”

Plausibility of the claim, for one thing.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 11th, 2012
8:53 am

Granny G – - you mean the Clinton speech that FactCheck.org called a nightmare because it was SO FULL of facts and details – and they were all CORRECT

that speech???

St Simons - we're on Island time

September 11th, 2012
8:54 am

murdoch asks someone to be independent

next infomercial on Faux: Broken Irony meters – $29.99 + S&H

order now – supplies are apparently (un)limited

Cosby

September 11th, 2012
8:55 am

ahh hell…lets just tax the rich and be done with it…neither side giving specifics…Dems have so many one liners it makes your head spin..but the true answer is from Obama..tax the rich and all problems will disappear…at least for 4 days and then that money runs out, then who do we tax…just hope there is enough shift in Congress come November we can get some common sense back in DC…but with Harry and Nancy still there, I kind of doubt it…spend spend sopend tax the rich..oops..there are no more rich to tax..now what do we do!!

Jay

September 11th, 2012
8:55 am

RB, your definition of “as much print space as possible” is laughable.

Is one paragraph in the comments section really “as much print space as possible”?

Seriously. Reconnect with reality at some point, will you? It’s not as frightening as you apparently find it.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 11th, 2012
8:57 am

Jay – “Reconnect with reality at some point, will you?”

RE-connect???

what makes you think he was ever connected with it in the first place?

Patrick

September 11th, 2012
8:59 am

“Jay, you always end up losing because of your INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY.”

At least no one can accuse USMC of “intellectual” ANYTHING…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
9:00 am

USinUK

Yep that one…..

too wonky for Brit….

Did you see Jon’s Stewarts takedown featuring that little nugget?

JamVet

September 11th, 2012
9:01 am

Mitt Romney – the weakest GOP candidate in 82 years. A RINO’s RINO!

And the next John McCain.

This one was over before it started so I’m more interested now in seeing some of the GOP trash in the US Congress – West and Walsh, specifically – getting taken out to the curb in November.

Off to keep the plutocrats comfy.

Later, peeps…

Welcome to the Occupation

September 11th, 2012
9:01 am

Seriously. Reconnect with reality at some point, will you? It’s not as frightening as you apparently find it.

Illustrates perfectly that for our right wing friends, the slightest reminder of their lack of prowess counts as an affront.

Fly-On-The-Wall

September 11th, 2012
9:04 am

Let’s call it as it is. Mitt doesn’t have a plan, he doesn’t know what he wants to do. All Mitt wants is to be President. He doesn’t want to do anything, he just wants the title. Nothing more and everything less.

Thomas Heyward Jr

September 11th, 2012
9:04 am

Meanwhile Ron Paul is laughing his but off over Romney ………and the Obama machine is worried about Paul’s growing army of Patriots.
.
I predict only 20% of disallusioned Americans will vote for the Washington party this election.
.
Molon Labe…………….parasites.

RB from Gwinnett

September 11th, 2012
9:06 am

Jay, you’re not fooling anybody with your D level tactics. We both know why you posted that crap. Are you going to post a link to the story that suggests Obama is actually an alien from planet Zorg too or do you only perpetuate the Enquirer level garbage against R’s?

Gale

September 11th, 2012
9:07 am

I often wonder why conservative candidates spend so much energy courting the far right. It’s true, who else will they vote for? I always come back to the same reason; the same reason there are TV evangelists… MONEY.

Newby

September 11th, 2012
9:09 am

USMC: ““The Fox News mogul joins a chorus of conservative voices expressing frustration with Romney’s stubborn refusal to provide details about any number of proposed policies.”–JAY BOOKMAN”

USMC asserts that this quote proves Jay’s “intellectual dishonesty”.

I’ll say it again – USMC has no sense of honor.

Aquagirl

September 11th, 2012
9:09 am

for our right wing friends, the slightest reminder of their lack of prowess counts as an affront.

Aaaaand right on schedule, RB flips out.

JKL2

September 11th, 2012
9:12 am

taxpayer- How many Republicans would vote for their party’s true leaders, Norquist or one of the Koch boys, et al.

You forgot Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Snowbilly Snooki.

MoveOn.org, nothing to see here….

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 11th, 2012
9:13 am

“Did you see Jon’s Stewarts takedown featuring that little nugget?”

I did not :-(

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
9:14 am

Obama’s birth certificate says ZORG?

Well now ya’ tell us.

That changes everything.

I can’t stand Zorgians,

Now if he was Trafalmadorian…..

fair and balanced

September 11th, 2012
9:16 am

“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”.In June 2001, German intelligence warned the US, Britain, and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft and use them as weapons to attack“the warnings were taken seriously and surveillance intensified” but “there was disagreement on how such terrorist attacks could be prevented.” This warning came from Echelon, a spy satellite network that is partly based in Germany. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01]

.In late July 2001, Egyptian intelligence received a report from an undercover agent in Afghanistan that “20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas.” To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn’t sound terribly alarming, but they passed on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. “The request never came.” [CBS, 10/9/02

.
.In late summer 2001, Jordan intelligence intercepted a message stating that a major attack was being planned inside the US and that aircraft would be used. The code name of the operation was Big Wedding, which did in fact turn out to be the codename of the 9/11 plot. The message was passed to US intelligence through several channels. [International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/02]

. Russian President Vladimir Putin publicly stated that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US in the summer of 2001 that suicide pilots were training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02] The head of Russian intelligence also stated, “We had clearly warned them” on several occasions, but they “did not pay the necessary attention.” [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/01]

The Russian newspaper Izvestia claimed that Russian intelligence agents knew the participants in the attacks, and: “More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation for these actions a couple of weeks before they happened.” [Izvestia, 9/12/02]“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”

And where was George Bush??? On the ranch taking a long vacation after six months on the job.
This is called leading from behind Ms. Rice and you neocons who think Romney will be a stronger president.
NEVER AGAIN

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
9:16 am

JKL2

September 11th, 2012
9:17 am

HDB- Romney can’t tell us where he’s planning to take the nation….because he doesn’t know where HE’s going!!

obama says,”What?”

Four years into the job and he still doesn’t have a plan. Let’s condemn the hypothical guy and ignore the one actually receiving a paycheck.

Butch Cassidy (I)

September 11th, 2012
9:18 am

IMO Romney’s problems started during the Republican primaries. You can’t participate in over 20 debates where members of your own party are denouncing you as the worst solution to the countries problems, out of touch, and the weakest candidate to run against Obama and not think that it’s not going to reasonate with voters. Then, you have those same critics on stage at the RNC trying to paint you as the epitomy of the Republican dream and exactly what the country needs. Even the right wing media was attacking him up until he became the Republican nominee for POTUS. Add the fact that he continues to make statements and then retract them as if they never happened, and it’s no mystery as to why he can’t seem to gain any ground against Obama.

Stonethrower

September 11th, 2012
9:24 am

Jm did a hit and run.

Welcome to the Occupation

September 11th, 2012
9:26 am

Jkl2: “Four years into the job and he still doesn’t have a plan. Let’s condemn the hypothical guy and ignore the one actually receiving a paycheck. ”

Uh, come again? WHO exactly is “receiving a paycheck”, the capitalist who hasn’t worked for a penny probably since his youth, if then (aside from a few speaking gigs)? You have it exactly backwards.

Brosephus™

September 11th, 2012
9:27 am

Romney is the ultimate Etch-A-Sketch candidate. He simply needs someone with a brain to draw out his plans for him so he can show them to the world. Unfortunately, his campaign manager hasn’t filled the position of “Romney’s brain” yet. Once he fills that position, all will be well then, unless he gets shaken up by somebody or something. Then, confusion and pandemonium will break out amongst us all.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 11th, 2012
9:28 am

Granny, you alienist. Some of my best friends are from Zorg as is the President. Why I dated a girl from Zorg for 2 years. You are off my Xmas fruitcake list! :P :lol:

fair and balanced

September 11th, 2012
9:29 am

“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"•In late 2000, British investigators teamed up with their counterparts in the Cayman Islands and began a yearlong probe of three Afghan men who had entered the Cayman Islands illegally. [Miami Herald, 9/20/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01] In June 2001, the Afghan men were overheard discussing hijacking attacks in New York City, and were promptly taken into custody. This information was forwarded to US intelligence [Fox News, 5/17/02].

In late August 2001, shortly before the attacks, an anonymous letter to a Cayman radio station alleged these same men were al-Qaeda agents “organizing a major terrorist act against the US via an airline or airlines.” [Miami Herald, 9/20/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, MSNBC, 9/23/01]

n late July 2001, Afghanistan’s Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil learned that Osama bin Laden was planning a “huge attack” on targets inside Sources confirmed that this message was received, but supposedly not taken very seriously, because of “warning fatigue” arising from too many terror warnings. [Independent, 9/7/02, Reuters, 9/7/02]

Also in late July 2001, the US was given a “concrete warning” from Argentina’s Jewish community. “An attack of major proportions” was planned against either the US, Argentina, or France. The information came from an unidentified intelligence agency. [Forward, 5/31/02]“”"”"”"”"”"”"”"

Mary Elizabeth

September 11th, 2012
9:30 am

The following line from GT’s 6:51 am post, on the last thread, fits perfectly here, with Rupert Murdoch and Grover Norquist being highlighted as political power players who have disclosed their deeper intent:
——————————————————

GT: “The real great thing here is they couldn’t buy the country or intimidate it into living a lie.”

Welcome to the Occupation

September 11th, 2012
9:31 am

Oh noezzz! What will we do? The Southerners don’t like the dog food. And what’s worse, they’re crypto-commies!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/09/11/poll-southern-whites-don-t-like-mitt.html

It’s Tuesday, but this week has already packed some punches for Mitt Romney. A new poll out Tuesday found that Southern whites—long considered one of the linchpins of the Republicans’ so-called Southern strategy—are bothered by the GOP candidate’s wealth and religion.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
9:33 am

Keep…

Please!

Don’t take Jesus out of fruitcake!

Its Jesusmas Fruitcake!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 11th, 2012
9:35 am

Granny: :lol: :lol: I’ll have to remember that one

Mr Right

September 11th, 2012
9:37 am

I often wonder why conservative candidates spend so much energy courting the far right. It’s true, who else will they vote for? I always come back to the same reason; the same reason there are TV evangelists… MONEY.

I gues it’s the same reason the far left do the same in the other direction! Look at their speakers at the convention like Sandra Fluke in prime time,the head of that abortion outfit whoever she is and the rest of the abortion on demand when ever, how ever, where ever crowd! Poor babies!!!

Paul

September 11th, 2012
9:38 am

“To win Romney must open big tent to sympathetic families. Stop fearing far right which has nowhere else to go. Otherwise no hope”

Pandering to the Right for the Republican candidate and to the Left for the Democratic candidate is understandable. What I cannot understand is Romney’s refusal to go where he needs to go, where his political background shows him to be most comfortable, and that is towards the middle. Republican or Democrat, most realists expect the candidate to do that at this point. That Romney doesn’t shows me he’s either susceptible to believing the segment he’s catered to is, at this point, he most important consideration, or it means he’s willing to not do what he knows to be the right thing and instead embrace expediency on a major issue.

Neither characteristic is desirable in a president.

Newby

September 11th, 2012
9:40 am

Mr. Right – agree.

This election particularly seems to be less a “convince the undecided” election, because there are so few undecided, and more a “turn out the base” election.

Of course, you are correct – for both parties,following the pandering to find the money.

USinUK - thug with a uterus ... and former Girl Scout

September 11th, 2012
9:40 am

“Jm did a hit and run.”

he has had to take his superpowers of sanctimoniousness where it was needed most …

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 11th, 2012
9:41 am

Look at their speakers at the convention like Sandra Fluke in prime time,the head of that abortion outfit whoever she is and the rest of the abortion on demand when ever, how ever, where ever crowd!

because of course you can prove that discussing the prevention of pregnancy is of course wanting abortion on demand. :roll: How inane can you wingnuts get? Then you wonder why your candidate cannot be “independent” in mind, thought or deed and must pander to you wingnuts. :roll:

philosopher

September 11th, 2012
9:42 am

Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette

September 11th, 2012
9:00 am

USinUK

Yep that one…..

too wonky for Brit….

Did you see Jon’s Stewarts takedown featuring that little nugget?
Here you go- message nailed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/06/jon-stewart-slams-brit-hu_n_413203.html

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 11th, 2012
9:43 am

JAY,

We all know Kurt Eichenwald is a HACK :-)

He did some great work on child predators…..I will forever have a difficult time blaming Bush for this as well as everything else…clearly he knew what conclusion he wanted to draw before he showed his work.

I also know that Clinton could have made it much more difficult for the attack. In the 90’s his staff, including Stephanopolis, heavily pushed the president to cross reference visa with drivers licenses since a visa could expire prior to drivers license which would preclude police in a routing traffic stop from knowing the visa had expired. Despite heavy pressure, Clinton ignored this in order to get hispanic vote….

Much blame to go around for everyone..what about the devastated intell network Bush was working with post clinton?

I’m not a big fan of GWB but this is BS..

Jm

September 11th, 2012
9:43 am

Stonethrower 9:24

I think the facts speak for themselves. I’m not going to get into any back and forth today.

TGT

September 11th, 2012
9:43 am

Romney understands that the policy specifics that would be acceptable to his party’s base would be unacceptable to the general-election voter, and vice versa.

Says who, a liberal?!

Obama got elected on little more than being black, and not George Bush. Where were his specifics? What vast record/experience did he have to lean on? Little to none. And then he selects for his running mate, America’s gaffe-master Joe Biden, who brought virtually nothing to the ticket (the quintessential “safe pick”).

This election is about Obama and his failed policies much more than it is about Romney and his specifics.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

September 11th, 2012
9:44 am

JAY,

I forgot to connect the dots….several of the ultimate 911 attackers were pulled over, some more than once, with expired visas prior to the attack..

Brosephus™

September 11th, 2012
9:45 am

Neither characteristic is desirable in a president.

I concur. I’ve often said that I see Obama as having the spine of a sour gummi bear. As bad as that is, I won’t replace him with someone who has the spine of Miracle Whip.

Mary Elizabeth

September 11th, 2012
9:49 am

Intent comes through.

Romney’s basic intent is to become President of the United States. Obama’s basic intent is to alter the course of history for the better. The people understand intent, on a basic, almost gut, level – beyond spin.

Jay

September 11th, 2012
9:50 am

Latest Rasmussen: 48/45 Obama.

Fred ™

September 11th, 2012
9:50 am

RB from Gwinnett

September 11th, 2012
8:43 am

Jay, “use it to score political points against your fellow Americans”

Isn’t that what you do here pretty much 6.5 days a week?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

SHow us even ONE time in the las year where Jay has used the terrorist attacks on September 11th 2001 to score political points against the Republicans. Oh wait you can’t because that is a LIE. What you were doing is using the PARTICULAR words that YOU wanted to make it seems like Jay said something he didn’t. A typical lying republican trick. A particularly nasty one that anyone with honor would be ashamed of using, but then that would presume that Republicans HAD any honor or character.

You are a true representative of the typical Republican.

Brosephus™

September 11th, 2012
9:52 am

In the 90’s his staff, including Stephanopolis, heavily pushed the president to cross reference visa with drivers licenses since a visa could expire prior to drivers license which would preclude police in a routing traffic stop from knowing the visa had expired.

That wouldn’t do much about anything. An expired visa doesn’t really mean much of anything. What you want to look for is expired admission periods.

For example, a tourist entering the United States is given an automatic period of 6 months for admission unless their passport expires before then. A visa only has to be valid for the date of entry for a person to enter the US. So, a person could have a visa that expires tomorrow, enter today, and still get a 6 month period of entry as long as their passport is valid for that time.

There are some classifications that do not have a defined admission period. Some classes are admitted for what’s called a “Duration of status” time period. That means that, their admission time is limited to as long as they remain in that same status or until their passport expires. Examples of these are ambassadors, government officials, and students. A student can have a single entry visa that is valid for 5 days and stay in the US for 4 years as long as they remain a student and their passport is valid.

Fred ™

September 11th, 2012
9:53 am

Jm

September 11th, 2012
9:43 am

Stonethrower 9:24

I think the facts speak for themselves. I’m not going to get into any back and forth today.
++++++++++++++++++++++

Sweet, that means minimal lying today. And yes the facts DO speak for themselves, you tried to be dirty and got PWND by Jay. Well that always happens, but this time it was so obvious that even you can’t lie it off.

Mick

September 11th, 2012
9:54 am

Americans made the right choice in 08, can you imagine where we would be if mccain/palin had won? Just because the opposition keeps harping that obama has failed doesn’t make it so. Remember, we were at the precipice of a world wide depression when he took over. What’s the result? Stability and and a positive direction concerning job growth. This with an unprecedented use of the filibuster and the opposition not lifting a finger to help. Hell yes america needs obama to continue! Romney had his big shot but will not tell us what he’s planning to do and trust is essential. The republican brand is damaged goods, there is no hope and the people have lived through their “change”, we’ve seen that movie before and it came crashing down in sept 08. Never again…

Don't Tread

September 11th, 2012
9:55 am

“So he grimly refuses to go there, judging that the cost of silence will be lower than the cost of clarity”

Yeah, like 0bama invoking executive privilege to cover up Fast and Furious. The cost of a coverup is less than the cost of the truth getting out.

Newby

September 11th, 2012
9:56 am

“Romney’s basic intent is to become President of the United States. Obama’s basic intent is to alter the course of history for the better. The people understand intent, on a basic, almost gut, level – beyond spin”

Mary Liz – thank you – you’ve condensed it nicely.

Fred ™

September 11th, 2012
9:56 am

Brocephus: I would almost sweat that Atta worked at the Shell Station on Five Forks Trickum……….

gm

September 11th, 2012
9:56 am

USMC

The Rep view of hope and change: Rep hope you dont see Mitt change his mind.

Thank You President Obama for all you do for Veterans, Mitt Romney true American Thank you for sending our jobs overseas ”””’

Fred ™

September 11th, 2012
9:56 am

Swear even lol.

Joe Hussein Mama

September 11th, 2012
9:56 am

Clearly Murdoch’s been listening in on the Koch Brothers’ phone calls to Romney. :D

USMC

September 11th, 2012
9:57 am

2013 Hope for Change! :-)

Joe Hussein Mama

September 11th, 2012
9:59 am

Romney + Ryan = Dope & Strange

Jeffrey

September 11th, 2012
9:59 am

The wsj is calling him out too. His ship is taking on water. Maybe the republicans will run a real candidate next time.

USMC

September 11th, 2012
10:00 am

LOL! So now Jay Bookman is a Rupert Murdoch Groupie!
(I am sure Jay really cares about Rupert’s opinion, not)

Germany Says ‘Great Uncertainty’ About US Debt
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48982485

Wake up folks! :-)

Fred ™

September 11th, 2012
10:02 am

Jeffrey

September 11th, 2012
9:59 am

The wsj is calling him out too. His ship is taking on water. Maybe the republicans will run a real candidate next time.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

How do you figure? All the nutcase Republicans want are hard right wing nutcase candidates. By definition that means they won’t run a real candidate. They are runing all the real people out of their party and just keeping the nutcases.

Don’t believe me? Just read here or at Kyles……….

Don't Tread

September 11th, 2012
10:02 am

“Obama’s basic intent is to alter the course of history for the better.”

Capitalism and individual freedom are evil, I tell ya :roll: But don’t worry, 0bama will fix it, and alter the course of history for the “better”. He just needs a few more years and a few more trillion dollars.

Brosephus™

September 11th, 2012
10:03 am

Fred

There were a few of those guys who spent time in the metro area. Immigration has changed drastically from where it was. Many of the 9/11 Commission’s recommended changes were put into play. There are other recommendations that have not been enacted though. I think the primary reasons are the costs of enacting them and how much it would impede international travel. I could be wrong on those reasons, but from my perspective, that’s what I see.

larry

September 11th, 2012
10:04 am

I would almost sweat that Atta worked at the Shell Station on Five Forks Trickum……….

Scary, isn’t it. That the attackers were in this state, flying planes over our skies, training for a terrorist mission.

9/11, in my opinion , was our government’s fault, not a particular president. They just didnt take it seriously enough.

getalife

September 11th, 2012
10:04 am

We united after 9/11 but failed to unite after the collapse and getting obl.

History recorded these facts.

Divided we failed.

Mick

September 11th, 2012
10:04 am

Once again, the president is not as bad as the opposition would like to paint him and not as good as the people who support him want him to be; he is just an american citizen doing his best to right this ship in a job that you can never please all the people, all the time. At this point, he has kept us safe, got bin laden, and stabilized the economic crisis – pretty solid work with much more to do…

USMC

September 11th, 2012
10:04 am

The List: Which presidential polls were most accurate?
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/
(Oh wait! It came from the DRUDGEREPORT… Fainting Couch, please)

G Mare

September 11th, 2012
10:05 am

Good Morning, one & only. Welcome back.

USMC

September 11th, 2012
10:06 am

Mick

September 11th, 2012
10:07 am

usmc

Hey gomer the lesser, I know that steel cap on your head needs some tightening, but if you are going to continually harp on the debt then please be sure to identify the previous administration for their wonderful contributions to our present fiscal condition, thanks…

Fred ™

September 11th, 2012
10:08 am

USMC

September 11th, 2012
10:00 am

LOL! So now Jay Bookman is a Rupert Murdoch Groupie!
(I am sure Jay really cares about Rupert’s opinion, not)

Germany Says ‘Great Uncertainty’ About US Debt
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48982485

Wake up folks!
++++++++++++++++++++

Really? Is this is the SAME Germany that the US completely rebuilt over the last 65 years at a cost of God only knows how many 100’s of billions of dollars? Is this the same Germany that was making billions of dollars off the oil for money scam with Saddam Hussein? Is this the same Germany who STILL receives 10’s to 100’s of millions of dollars from the US military?

Is THIS the Germany you are talking about? Pull our troops out of Germany taking all our buildings with them and THEN see what they have to say. It’s kinda Jm living in his mom’s basement and complaining about how much money she makes don’t you think?

Joe Hussein Mama

September 11th, 2012
10:09 am

Latest election math update:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

(yes, this folds in Rasmussen data)

Based on this map, Romney would have to flip ALL BUT ONE of the smaller Barely Dem states (the ones outlined in blue) in order to win. He could lose IA, CO or NV (any one of those), but he couldn’t lose any more than that and still win. He’d also have to do that without losing any more of the states already in his column — but it looks like Obama has peeled off essentially all of the swing states at this point, with OH looking like it might be out of play for now.

Conservatives, whether you like Romney or just barely tolerate him, it’s time to face facts. It will be VERY difficult for Romney to manage a win with numbers like these.

USMC

September 11th, 2012
10:09 am

Democrat withdraws from 1st District congressional race after allegations she voted in two states
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-wendy-rosen-withdraws-20120910,0,3764352.story

DemocRats caught at their dirty old tricks!

td

September 11th, 2012
10:09 am

ay

September 11th, 2012
8:39 am

As to that NYTimes op-ed piece, its allegations are troubling. However, blaming the Bush administration for failing to halt the 9/11 attacks is a major step, and I’m not ready to do that based on what we’ve seen so far. The briefings and intel that Kurt Eichenwald mentions in his piece — http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1&hp — ought to be released in as much detail as possible, and perhaps then we can judge.

Even the leftest on Morning Joe this morning took this guy apart for taking his argument out of context and doing it for political gain.

ragnar danneskjold

September 11th, 2012
10:10 am

One suspects the world has gone nuts when leftists start citing the thoughts of Rupert Murdoch approvingly. I suppose that condition arises from the brevity of the Obama “convention bounce” much ballyhooed on this blog in recent days.

Romney would do well to follow the example of Mr. Murdoch, rather than to take his advice. An intelligent leader sets policy – much like a Chief Executive Officer or a Chairman of the Board – and leaves the program details to a supremely talented operation-man; this is how Murdoch runs his organizations. As Mr. Romney has selected the brightest operation guy in Washington as his vice president, that format is exactly what he ought to do also.

Whatever

September 11th, 2012
10:10 am

As opposed to Obama’s plans which keep putting us in deeper and deeper debt.

Neither side has a solution!

St Simons - we're on Island time

September 11th, 2012
10:11 am

“We’ve told you (little) people all you need to know.”
you can just hear the ‘little’ in there, can’t you?

and Rupert, what does your network call somebody that files
an amended return? – “Tax Cheat” that’s right. 50 times an hour.
(and that guy’s not even running for anything)

Now, since I guarantee by my Holy Stamp that Romney will have
to file at least one amended return, he will be henceforth referred to as
“Tax Cheat Lord High Hairgel of Romney” every day, every time, all day

by your own lofty standards, mr Donald Trump of Australia

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 11th, 2012
10:12 am

Well, seems to me old Rupert could do Romney more good by cluing him in on how to break into peoples cell phone accounts, like what happened in England. That way, Romney could hear all the messages of the Obama people and beat him to the punch every time. About 30 minutes before Obama was to give another boring speech, Romney could give one on the same topic that he’d learn about by hearing the cell phone messages and more or less flay Obama buck-nekkid.

I know it sounds kinda dirty, but it’s about the best hope Romney has, from what I can see in the polls. Rupert’s just wasting his time giving Romney advise. Romney needs inside info, not a bunch of words.

Now I know some of you will complain that this dirty business will all come out sooner or later. But by then Romney will be President and he can order his people to head the libruls off at the pass. He could come up with something like I Am Not A Crook or stuff like that. If he don’t take my advise now, he’s going to have a whole lot of time to be testing that car elevator in his house for the rest of his life.

But nobody listens to me till it’s too late. Have a good Tuesday everybody.

Ellsworth Monkton Toohey

September 11th, 2012
10:12 am

@jm – there’s a new report tending to suggest that the Bush administration’s willful ignorance of the intelligence warnings leading up to 9/11/01 amounted to negligence. What say ye of this? “It’s Obama’s fault”?

Newby

September 11th, 2012
10:13 am

ragnar – so you’re suggesting we should ask Ryan what Romney’s tax plan is (since HE won’t tell us)?