Obama re-election not likely to ease GOP intransigence

Nice article Jay! Time will prevail and if President Obama wins a second term, the Red States will be highly disappointed!!

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“President Obama has predicted that if he wins re-election, Republicans in Congress will be more willing to work with him than they proved to be in his first term, when defeating him became their primary goal.”

We’ll never know, will we?

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Wearing shoes 1/2 size to small? Working at a Law firm at the time. The guy is dumber than we thought.

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I’m doubtful that most Republicans will be any more willing to compromise and act reasonably than they have been for the past four years.

Fergit? HELL NO!!!!

However they will make a bipartisan effort to grow one segment of the economy…gun and ammo manufacturing.

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Good article. I hope President Obama is right but I’m afraid Nancy Pelosi is. Ponnuru’s comments are interesting.

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Jay:

I hate to disappoint you but our founding fathers anticipated just such a despot who would try to change this very Republic so they created a House of Representatives, a Senate and a Supreme Court to prevent that.

It’s all in the Constitution if you care to look.

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Bumper Sticker:

“We Need Jobs But I Was Never Hired By A Poor Person”

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Nancy Pelosi,
Now if she ain’t the picture of bipartisanship well I don’t know who is!

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Still at 43% as voters think the country is going the wrong way. And you Loons think people with a brain and any hope of living a good life are going to pull the Barrack lever and ask for four more years of this?

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I guess I’m part of that intransigent cult that acts unreasonable – and proud of it.

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I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not
September 5th, 2012
2:22 pm

Some outlets have mostly exaggerations and a few mischaracterizations

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Also I’m a liberal……………………………

U gotta change your name takes up way too much space or tell us how we should address u?

Don’t want to call you the wrong name now do we

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It’s interesting that O’bozo (and Jay) is conceding control of both houses of congress to the republicans.

He’s correct, of course, but I’m astonished every time O’bozo acknowledges reality.

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The Light at the end of the Tunnel the Republicans see is not sunshine! Its a Freight Train Full of The Millions of Women in America headed right for them. You will see them LQQKING, at it as comes down on Top of them. Full Speed Ahead!

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GOP intransigence will only get bolder when Obama wins and it will also be their end.

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This time next year barry and me-shell will be making a very good living off the speech circuit, four and out for this mistake/experiment.

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Still can’t tell the difference between losing 650,000 and gaining 150;000 jobs. Cons are math challenged.

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While it would be more frank for President Obama to say there is no way to work with the intransigent GOP, he is afterall President of the
UNITED States and it is his job to be sensitive to the fee fees of the republicans.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe what the GOP is saying to everyone is: “SUCK IT!”

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801,

“September 5th, 2012
2:18 pm
Obama for President” campaign thread #217.”

You’re being lazy. At least come up with a different fake number.

“0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 4th, 2012
8:44 am

Joseph:

“How could you write this tripe Jay ……………… ?”

Because it’s “Obama for President Campaign thread” #217.”

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Well Jay maybe Obama will take a lesson from you on how to get the right to move to center, of couse lets hope he can be a little more tactful than you. Obsinate, Act Reasonably, A Cult, Intransigence, Apathetic, Ill Informed. Maybe you should ban yourself for two days.

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I’m astonished every time O’bozo acknowledges reality.

I’ll be astonished when you start……

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“In other words, after winning he will lecture Republicans about how their positions are insincere and adopted purely for political reasons; he will insist that his existing positions are already a compromise with them; and he will try to govern unilaterally. These tactics seem unlikely to produce the desired results. Obama has, after all, adopted all of them, and they haven’t worked” – Ponnoru

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McCain lost in 2008 because he allowed the wingnuts to talk him into Sarah Palin over Leiberman. The base of The Party wanted a hard core conservative on the ticket. And now Romney has made the same mistake which will have the same result. Bless their hearts.

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“That’s an insult to mules”

yeah, maybe…but it gets the point across!

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Here is some great stuff about Romney !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=related

Scary !!!!!!!!!

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“And now Romney has made the same mistake which will have the same result. Bless their hearts”

Just like their failed and discredited policies they wish to re-implement and trickle down on us all…

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“Obsinate, Act Reasonably, A Cult, Intransigence, Apathetic, Ill Informed. Maybe you should ban yourself for two days.” You forgot to mention that the GOP is also racist and a neo-nazi organization. These are important elements of the Democratic “argument”, their calling something as it is.

Well if the truth hurts, perhaps its time for some tough love and self-reflection instead of whining.

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“…that’s when Obama has to go back to his Chicago roots.”

Yikes….two racist “code words” (”Chicago” and “roots”) in one sentence….oh…wait….these were from a liberal….so…no racism there.

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yeah Jay, just like barry said he would have a transparent administration huh? Just ask the Terry family.

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“Is it even conceivable to hear a comparable statement from Mitt Romney?”

No………..because good (Constitutionalism) must triumph over evil (Statism).

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Fading Obama Poster :

LOL !!!!!

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This should have been titled:

Romney’s election not likely to ease Democrat intransigence

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Well Jay…….

“I’m prepared to make a whole range of compromises, some of which I get criticized from the Democratic Party on, in order to make progress.”

Is it even conceivable to hear a comparable statement from Mitt Romney?

Perhaps that means more Flip Flopping ?

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ragnar danneskjold YOU must have been pretty proud of old Bush back in 2008 ?

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b-troll ……… This is called “spin”. Look it up.

You mean like ” Mission Accomplished ” or ” Deficits don’t Matter ” ?

Something like that ?

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Jay

That’s the real depressing part of it – Republicans who are oh-so-willing to put ideology above country. Some patriots, those. Pres Obama needs to adapt his style to the situation – the essence of leadership – and go full bore into the ‘give’em hell Harry” Truman mode. I also understand Pres Roosevelt, in his radio addresses, would go down a list of Congressmen holding up his proposals, call them out and tell the people that’s why they continued to be in difficulty.

Republican leadership needs to be put on the spot, publicly, and then we’ll see how long their weak-intellect rhetoric lasts.

I’m a liberal

“When is fact checker going over that speech last night?”

Fox did after the noon hour. They had very little.

Afternoon, Huh?

Left an answer for you last evening, I believe you may have signed off.

Hey jewcowboy!!

Welcome back!

Have some new bloggers on board, good to see the old hands return.

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Charlotte Observer: ‘Dems blow it’

By DONOVAN SLACK |
9/5/12 1:30 PM EDT

The editorial page editor of the Charlotte Observer is not happy.

Taylor Batten posted a scathing column Wednesday skewering the Obama camp’s decision to move President Obama’s speech indoors — and turn away tens of thousands who had tickets, mainly area residents:

“Not that the whole “most open and accessible convention in history” had a leg to stand on anyway, but now that claim is officially dead. The Democrats just yanked credentials from some 50,000-plus potential voters who had planned to cheer on President Obama’s acceptance speech in person Thursday night. …Thousands had volunteered for Obama’s campaign for hours, and thousands more stood in line for many hours, to secure a ticket to the stadium. Thanks for the effort, guys, but … never mind…

…It seems to be part of a pattern by the DNCC: Make big plans, then scale them back. First it was the Monday event at the Speedway being reeled in. Now this…

Republicans are speculating that organizers moved the event because they couldn’t fill the stadium and didn’t want the embarrassment of Obama talking to empty seats. Highly unlikely. Democratic officials say they gave out 65,000 credentials and had 19,000 more on a waiting list. They say they would have been turning people away, and there’s no evidence they wouldn’t have.

No, this isn’t about lack of Democratic enthusiasm. But given this treatment, it might soon be.”

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Such a statement needs to be considered after viewing Obama’s off camera message to the Russians and what he will be free to do after re-election.

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““I’m prepared to make a whole range of compromises, some of which I get criticized from the Democratic Party on, in order to make progress.”

Is it even conceivable to hear a comparable statement from Mitt Romney?”

File this under “Another of Jay’s questions no Republican on the blog will answer.”

Guess what kind of person remains silent when confronted with the truth?

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Scout equates the geopolitical situation of the 1960s with the 2000s…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

‘course, I could post that link nearly every day and it’d be on target.

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JAY,

Really?

And why not take a stand to remove BO at all costs? Will the DEMs (suggest you avoid Pelosi as a source going forward) take any different position if Romney wins? C’mon, the DEMs will become the obstructionist with the battle cry remove Romney at all costs…

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Howdy Paul!

It has been a while. I read daily, but by the time I have a chance to comment, the thread is usually 500 comments in and the derangement is in full swing with the original topic long gone.

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Charlotte Observer – what a metaphor for the Obama administration

Not that the whole “most open and accessible convention in history” had a leg to stand on anyway, but now that claim is officially dead. The Democrats just yanked credentials from some 50,000-plus potential voters who had planned to cheer on President Obama’s acceptance speech in person Thursday night. …Thousands had volunteered for Obama’s campaign for hours, and thousands more stood in line for many hours, to secure a ticket to the stadium. Thanks for the effort, guys, but … never mind…

…It seems to be part of a pattern by the DNCC: Make big plans, then scale them back. First it was the Monday event at the Speedway being reeled in. Now this…

Republicans are speculating that organizers moved the event because they couldn’t fill the stadium and didn’t want the embarrassment of Obama talking to empty seats. Highly unlikely. Democratic officials say they gave out 65,000 credentials and had 19,000 more on a waiting list. They say they would have been turning people away, and there’s no evidence they wouldn’t have.

No, this isn’t about lack of Democratic enthusiasm. But given this treatment, it might soon be.

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Boy you Romneyites or whatever you call yourselves have really drunk the kool-aide! You are just too lazy to educate yourselves on the truth. For all of you who talk about the ‘fact-checking’ from last night, you should have actually watched it because they did. One thing for sure, they didn’t come out as straight out liars like the Republicans did. Oh of course, according to the Republicans, fact checkers have no relevance for them….

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Jay

September 5th, 2012
3:01 pm

Plumber, the death of Agent Terry is a tragedy. He gave his life in service to this country, and that should never be forgotten.

But I’m curious: Where is your outrage and concern for the more than 4,000 Americans who lost their lives in the completely unnecessary and deceptively sold invasion of Iraq? Why this focus on one while ignoring 4,000?
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Comes now Bookman…………….sharpening up his anti-war rhetoric.
(just in case “the one” doesn’t get re-elected).
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lol

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“Guess what kind of person remains silent when confronted with the truth?”

You mean like you or other liberals here have when I touched on the absurd and reprehensible ad hominen attacks upon the GOP (as evidenced by the NUMEROUS charges of racism and nazism we have seen by Democratic leaders and supporters just this past week)? Is that REALLY the Democratic argument? Care to explain why it happens so often and why you don’t see a comparable number of such attacks by conservatives?

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“The same place I guess as the Democrat outrage over the 58,000 names on the Vietnam Wall.”

Yeah…those were all Republican demonstrating against the Vietnam War…you could tell by the preponderance of crew cuts and 3-piece suits at the protest marches.

http://news.haverford.edu/blogs/amongfriends/files/2008/12/we-wont-fight-final.jpg

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801,

I will be curious to see what the other alledged 50,000 folks will hang out…perhaps outside arena? The weather man appears to be forecasting low chance of thunderstorms excepting the normal for this time of year..perhaps the DEMs failed to consider the weather?

Perhaps you are correct and they will turn away some 50,000 folks….seems like a big political risk to me…which will be compounded if it turns out to be a Van Gogh like evening…

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Comes now Bookman…………….sharpening up his anti-war rhetoric

Perhaps it would be less rhetoric is Jay mentioned the outrage and concern for the wedding party in WI that Obama took out with a drone in your eyes. You had plenty of “rant rage” on a fake news story then, spud.

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JAY,

Regarding your 3:10, are you suggesting the DEMS actively reached across the aisle over the 2 years of total congressional control? They had to lose house to evidence any (likely a facade since Senate remained DEM) willingness to cross the aisle…to be fair, the GOP were obstructionist but it has alot to do with President Trillions lack of leadership..such as returning phone calls, reaching out to businesses and others…..I agree with Wash Post article today that he doesn’t seem to like people and fails the leadership test…

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Huh?

Yes, you most definitely did give the impression you are here for serious discussion. The event vividly reminded me of an experience I had with JamVet when I first arrived (right, AmVet?). Save the read of the reply for anytime you want to read – just tying up a loose end.

And good on you for your foray into political life at 22.

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 5th, 2012
3:05 pm
“But I’m curious: Where is your outrage and concern for the more than 4,000 Americans who lost their lives in the completely unnecessary and deceptively sold invasion of Iraq?”

The same place I guess as the Democrat outrage over the 58,000 names on the Vietnam Wall.

MR DIGITS

You mean the war that we might still be in if the LEFT had not mobilized
to end it?

Our outrage brought that war to an end.

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C’mon Jay, you too??? Instead of addressing the question of a transparent White House and a potential cover up for a worthless attorney general, you counter with a “It’s Bush’s fault”………

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“the success of the ongoing Great RINO Purge probably ensures that they will be too few in number and influence to make a difference.”

If at the end of the day Obama wins, there are 52 or more Democratic Senators and more than 200 Democratic Reps then it will get much easier.

If Wingnuts like Akin and Mourdock win all bets are off.

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What 4 million jobs are those? Wiki says from Jan 2001 to Jan 2009 1.1M jobs were added and from Jan 2009 to Jan 2012 1.1M jobs were lost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

See you have to net the 5.1M lost from the 4 M added and talk in terms of net jobs. Unemployment is up, jobs are down and real per capita income is down. Quit drinking the foolaid.

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I will criticize President Obama for this… He seems to start with the compromise, and then allow himself to be pulled further to the right (the proposed Grand Bargain during the debt ceiling discussions, smaller than needed stimulus, cap-and-trade…). I’d prefer to see him fight for the ideal policies and legislation (e.g., http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/the-peoples-budget/ ) and then, if necessary, negotiate and compromise from there.

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JDW

September 5th, 2012
3:21 pm

“I thought the goal was to do what was right for our COUNTRY.”

It used to be that way…then came Newt.
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Newt compromised. I didn’t and DON’T like him, but he did compromise……..

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Scout 3:12

If ‘no tax increases, ever” is a fundamental, never to be compromised,

where would be have been in 1945-1945 (our participation in WWII, with the exception of a month in 1941, for all you nonhistory types.)

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So many great speakers for the Dems’ the first night:

“Instead of safeguarding our seniors, Romney and Ryan would end the guarantee of Medicare and replace it with a voucher in order to give bigger tax breaks to billionaires,” said Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley. “Instead of investing in America, they hide their money in Swiss bank accounts and ship our jobs to China. Swiss bank accounts never built an American bridge. Swiss bank accounts don’t put cops on the beat or teachers in our classrooms. Swiss bank accounts never created American jobs!”

Romney/Ryan — Outsourcing American Jobs!

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Stevie Ray,

“DEMS actively reached across the aisle over the 2 years of total congressional control?”

I’m sure you meant to caveat that, right?

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/

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“Compromise is the language of the devil.”

I thought KISS was.

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

September 5th, 2012
3:23 pm

“Compromise is the language of the devil.”
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It must be nice to be God and never be wrong. Why aren’t YOU dictator then? I mean you couldn’t be a President because Presidents are human and have to work with others. You are omnipotent and dictators dictate, they don’t wussy up and “compromise.”

Do you realize how utterly stupid your no compromise position is?

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Jay
September 5th, 2012
3:10 pm

Again those are simply words.

Both sides have acted ridiculous. Republicans have said stupid things but so have the president and the rest of the democrats.

Just because you may agree with some of the comments by democrats does not mean thy are not offensive.

Cause carrying a huge gavel down the road really inspires compromise!

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John Birch,

“See you have to net the 5.1M lost from the 4 M added and talk in terms of net jobs”

Does Romney do that when talking about the jobs created at Bain?

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“And that, in a nutshell, is why I’ll never vote Republican again.”
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Amen

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Ivan

“It’s a two party system game in which BOTH sides are trying to win, not compromise.”

Are you aware of the definition of ‘compromise’?

If one does not control the Executive and the Legislative, how does a side ‘win’ if it is not willing to compromise?

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And that, in a nutshell, is why I’ll never vote Republican again.

I won’t say never. Despite how hopeless it seems at this point in time, there IS a chance that sanity could break out in the Republican Party again………….

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“Three NAZI references by the Dems. Interesting.”

Fascism is a right-wing trait.

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Jay – I’m prepared to make a whole range of compromises, some of which I get criticized from the Democratic Party on, in order to make progress.”

but this time he means it right?….please
saying so and doing so are two different things…and so far he has said a lot

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We have no budget today because of budget cuts ask for, and heavy tax increases ask for. It’s pretty simple, thus nothing has happened.

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For a different perspective on the so-called GOP intransigence:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896111/posts
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/intransigent-meet-unserious

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Paul
September 5th, 2012
3:18 pm

No it wasn’t good but thank you.
Word of advice don’t run for office in the same town you are enrolled in college at!

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john birch

The Truth Behind The GOP Claim That Obama Hasn’t Created A Single Net Job

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/gop-obama-hasnt-created-a-single-net-job.php?ref=fpblg

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It’s been nice folks but the POS I’ve been waiting at has arrived so time to tee off!!!!!!

May see you boys and gals tonight

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jay……In other words, this game of political chicken is likely to continue for as long as a largely apathetic and ill-informed American public is willing to tolerate it. I don’t see that changing soon.
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‘ILL INFORMED” and quite happy !!

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Vinny — “Jay – Your diatribe should have been titled “Obama re-election not likely”

That would be more accurate.”

How do you figure that?

http://www.electoral-vote.com

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Not sure if you missed it Jay but Saddam Hussein did murder an estimated 1.25 to 1.5 million people.
Used mustard gas on his own people. Invaded Kuwait and raped and murdered 10’s of thousands.

Can you please explain why it is acceptable for Barack Obama to attack and kill Libyans (soldiers and civilians) when an estimated 4,000 people were killed under Gadaffi?

Nevermind…silly me, you are a blinded, biased, “journalist”, with a liberal agenda.

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Fred ™

September 5th, 2012
3:32 pm

Fred,
While I can concede that you are probably right, I think it will be a generational shift.
That will take time I don’t have.

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Jay,

When did Obama propose the Bowles-Simpson plan? Are you talking about the debt commission he formed? He ignored most of not all of their recommendations. For example, they recommended going to 3 tax rates (higest rate lower than current highest rate) instead of 6 and eliminating most deductions.

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“Can you please explain why it is acceptable for Barack Obama to attack and kill Libyans (soldiers and civilians) when an estimated 4,000 people were killed under Gadaffi?”

That’s easy. He has the liberal biased media’s seal of approval. And all that suggest his ideas or policies are not agreeable are either racists or nazis. Where did you go to school???

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hey there JCB

Good to see you

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The al-Anfal Campaign:
The worst human rights abuses of Hussein’s tenure took place during the genocidal al-Anfal Campaign (1986-1989), in which Hussein’s administration called for the extermination of every living thing–human or animal–in certain regions of the Kurdish north. All told, some 182,000 people–men, women, and children–were slaughtered, many through use of chemical weapons. The Halabja poison gas massacre of 1988 alone killed over 5,000 people.

I guess Jay Bookman is ok with this type of behavior in the world.

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The only people Obama ever compromised with were moderate democrats

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Does anyone know what Steve Shamrock is talking about?

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Jewcowboy,

The prodigal son has returned! You and you wit have been missed. Welcome back.

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“Compromise is the language of the devil.”

Never argue with a fool… he’ll just drag you down to his level and beat you with experience…

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Howdy Midori!

Howdy Normal!

Prodigal huh? Did you get my Amex bill?

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Fading Obama Poster

September 5th, 2012
3:12 pm
“Care to explain why it happens so often and why you don’t see a comparable number of such attacks by conservatives?”

Are you saying that conservatives aren’t attacking via the code words that they persist in unsin in denigrating segments of the American populace? Are you saying that certain elements in conservative politics haven’t used a racist meme to inflame their base..like the “Southern Strategy”?

OPEN YOUR EYES, MAN! It’s as obvious as a runny nose on a cold day!!!!

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Wilbur’s a GREAT parody troll. Is someone sockpuppeting him, or is he a new contestant?

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a largely apathetic and ill-informed American public

In other words, those that would vote for a liberal.

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Enter your comments here

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Paul,

Unfortunately I lost a ton of brain cells after reading Wilbur’s first paragraph.

And I sorely needed them too.

Dang it all.

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duh, I could see why no one would want to work with Pelosi. She is a whack job, way out of left field.

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I could see why no one would want to work with Pelosi. She is a whack job, way out of left field.

Perhaps if she were oranger and cried more. But then again, she did get bills through the House when she led the majority without tantrums.

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There you go Fred. Now you can try to make an intelligent comment instead of going on and on about a stupid blog name. I would love a reasonable discussion with some facts, rather than the Obama walks on water cause he says so koolaid.
Did we add 4 million jobs during the Obama administration or not? If so, proof please, not just the administration’s claim they did so.

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“Democrats have pursued a far left wing agenda, out of touch with what Americans want.”

1. Health Care Mandates
2. The Nuclear START Treaty
3. Dream Act
4. TARP
5. Bail Out of Auto Industry
6. Israel Going Back To Pre-1967 Borders
7. End Of Life Counseling

What do these things have in common? They were all supported by the GOP before Obama took office.

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Gordon

From your post I see you have no idea at all what went on with Simpson Bowles.

Let me help you.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/aug/30/ryan-and-simpson-bowles-commission-full-story/

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jewcowboy

September 5th, 2012
3:50 pm

Howdy Midori!

Howdy Normal!

Prodigal huh? Did you get my Amex bill?
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Wow, you folks must be special. I spoke to him downstairs and he ignored me there……..

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Fred 2 — “Did we add 4 million jobs during the Obama administration or not? If so, proof please, not just the administration’s claim they did so.”

http://www.bls.gov/bls/employment.htm

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It’s really strange, Jay, for we know what works and what doesn’t. What doesn’t is Bush’s failed economic principles being offered (times 2) by Republicans this election. But what does is what has given us 29 straight months of growth and 4.4 million jobs added to the private sector, thank you Dems and President Obama.

I mean, if not for all the police, teachers, and firefighters Republicans fired the last few years, our unemployment rate would be down around 7 percent, and whose fault is this? I’m sure if they had tried a little, they could have found a way, especially if it meant keeping Americans employed until the economy’s roaring again.

Oh right, I forgot: They’re not trying to keep us employed. They’re trying to destroy our president in favor of even more tax cuts for their rich. God how I wish that created jobs, for we’d be swimming in them by now!

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Betty,

weak.

extremely weak.

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Howdy Fred ™,

“Wow, you folks must be special. I spoke to him downstairs and he ignored me there”

Apologies! I got distracted and didn’t keep up with thread below. No slight intended!

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Granny @4:02,

Where in that link you gave me did it say that Obama supported Bowles-Simpson? That was Jay’s assertion that I was questioning. Ryan agreed with part of it but not enough of it to support it as is. No one is sure what Obama’s position on it was.

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I wish you guys would get your “theories” straight.

I though they relocated because Obama couldn’t fill the stadium.

Just ask Scout.

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J. Horwitz — “Wilbur’s a sock puppet for Mr. Ed! Willlllllllllllllllllbur. Give the man his oats.”

Oats? No way! He doesn’t even like the Braves!

Everyone knows that Wilbur and Mr. Ed root for the Philadelphia ‘Fillies.”

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Fred — “I did 18 lbs of butt, some pork chops and some chicken wings. I have a slab of ribs left I still need to do lol.”

That’s . . . quite an exercise routine, lol.

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Link to complete article on right-wing CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/05/politics/fact-check-obama-jobs/index.html

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Fred – according to left that was no compromise but extortion by the right….is that your only example of Obama compromises?

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“I did 18 lbs of butt”

My brain went straight to the gutter.

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Hmmm.. so the DNC took “God” out? Why I do believe the DNC’s platform regarding Faith provided: Faith has always been a central part of the American story, and it has been a driving force of progress and justice throughout our history. We know that our nation, our communities, and our lives are made vastly stronger and richer by faith and the countless acts of justice and mercy it inspires. Faithbased organizations will always be critical allies in meeting the challenges that face our nation and our world – from domestic and global poverty, to climate change and human trafficking. People of faith and religious organizations do amazing work in communities across this country and the world, and we believe in lifting up and valuing that good work, and finding ways to support it where possible. We believe in constitutionally sound, evidence-based partnerships with faith-based and other non-profit organizations to serve those in need and advance our shared interests. There is no conflict between supporting faith-based institutions and respecting our Constitution, and a full commitment to both principles is essential for the continued flourishing of both faith and country.

Is the problem that certain people don’t recognize a faith discussion that is broad based unless is includes God (and leaves out any other variation or faith)?

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jewcowboy

September 5th, 2012
4:14 pm

“I did 18 lbs of butt”

My brain went straight to the gutter.
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LOL

Keep: Thanks I was feeling neglected.

John Birch: Try to stay in focus and read the words in black. You’ll understand eventually.

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The WSJ has an interesting article today interviewing several promenent Democratic leaders on what Obama should do if re-elected. I found the comments of Harold Ford, Jr to actually make a lot of sense. He suggested:
1)Embrace Simpson-Bowles as a template for long term defecit reduction and tax reform
2) Place a moratorium on new regulation. The business community is poised to dramatically expand with new technology but Washington is creating uncertainty through regulations.
3) establish a public-private infrastructure bank to tap private intellectual capital to combine with government taxpayer funds to create jobs and

The realistic chances of Obama taking advice from a member of his own party and accepting any sense of fiscal responsibility -ZERO. He didn’t even accept questions on the three college campuses he spoke to last week. I guess he is scared about that 50% unemployment stat for recent grads.
Obama has spent the past three years campaigning on a divisive message of tax the rich and business is evil. After watching him point fingers for the past 3 years, no one wants to work with him. His ego prevents him from ever working on bipartisan legislation.The truly sad part about all of this is that regardless of what the Dems say in Charlotte, the employment number Friday is going to be another disappointment. Apparantly, the Dems would rather focus on social issues than how to encourage growth in the economy. It has become painfully obvious that Obama doesn’t want to talk about the economy because he simply doesn’t know what to do.

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Perhaps you should review your first post?
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Gordon

September 5th, 2012
3:41 pm
Jay,

When did Obama propose the Bowles-Simpson plan? Are you talking about the debt commission he formed? He ignored most of not all of their recommendations. For example, they recommended going to 3 tax rates (higest rate lower than current highest rate) instead of 6 and eliminating most deductions.

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That means:

Where in that link you gave me did it say that Obama supported Bowles-Simpson? That was Jay’s assertion that I was questioning. Ryan agreed with part of it but not enough of it to support it as is. No one is sure what Obama’s position on it was.

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I’ll adjust my statement – you EITHER have no idea what you are talking about or you are being willfully ignorant.

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One reason to re-elect Obama is that it will free the president from running for re-election and he can say some things that need to be said that leaders of neither of the major political parties have yet said.

One good reason to not elect Romney is that he will spend the next four years just as he has the last eight -running for re-election; however, if in office, he will have the power to select jurists for the US Supreme Court –bet they will be of the zealot or moneychanger variety in light of the odd “deal with the devil” that the current GOP is.

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Harold Ford – Democratic Leader?

Will wonders never cease!

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Are Republicans so dumb they don’t realize that the right wing is THE problem in that party? They can never win the bulk of moderate whites, not to mention women, Latinos, and other minorities with the right wing populated by the Todd Akins and Rick Santorums of the world. The neanderthal social views of the right scare the hell out of most of this country.

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I like pork butt and I can not lie
You other eaters can’t deny
That when a three-choice plate
With a couple of sides
And a iced tea’s in your face
You get SPRUNG
Wanna eat it up
Until your gut is stuffed

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“Well, they did kinda kick God out of the convention…”

To be fair…I’m quite sure there were plenty of Jesus’s on hand at both conventions to build those elaborate sets.

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Tip:

If you don’t already, spritz your butt and ribs with a 50/50 mixture of apple cider vinegar and apple juice every 30 minutes for the last couple of hours.

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Ewrin’s cat

September 5th, 2012
4:13 pm

Fred – according to left that was no compromise but extortion by the right….is that your only example of Obama compromises?
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Really? So now we are putting spin on things? Yeah there were many on the left who weren’t happy with the deal, they have idiots too, thta’s not confined to the right and folks like scout, but the point is the PRESIDENT made the compromise and stuck to it.

Do I have others? Yeah, but why bother? i thought you were genuinely seeking information not looking for targets to propagandize. Sounds like regardless of the facts you have made up your mind. I must have you confused with someone else because I didn’t remember you being closed minded. I thought you were an independent like me, maybe a little more to the right than I am, but an independent none the less. I’m not getting that vibe now.

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Jew cowboy…..Jesus didn’t build those sets, somebody else did.

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The chair of the Democrat Party in South Carolina just compared the governor of that state to Hitler’s mistress. That is the kind of language that comes from people who are interested in working together toward compromise. Right?

That’s the kind of civility that is the foundation for cooperation. Right? The state democrat chair ( unelected by the people) is indicating the kind of personal and professional respect that might form the beginnings of mutual solutions. Right?

You just can’t make up the ridiculous excess of the democrats. Poor Jay is just wearing himself out trying to spin here and the events make his job ever harder.

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“How about negotiating the spending cuts AND passing them THEN working on the revenue side?”

Or, and this is a freakin crazy thought here, you work them out together at the same time. Sheesh…there must some Captain Morgan’s in this Diet Coke I’m sipping to come up with these things.

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“And a iced tea’s in your face
You get SPRUNG”

Oh and Joe Hussein Mama, your delight with ice tea is disturbing.

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Adam,
stop selling the lie that women equally qualified as men get paid 77%…that is just wrong and a lie.

My salary and my bosses salary are based on our qualifications….especially since they offered me a job and salary before I ever produced anything for them what else could it be?

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Granny,

Jay said one example of Obama’s willingness to compromise was Bowles-Simpson. I asked, in a non-confrontational way, when that occurred because I could not recall it. You, in your usual patronizing way, provided a link. I read what you linked to and asked where it supported Jay’s contention. Then I get another smart-alecky reply back from you which of course ignored my question.

There, I think we are all caught up now. I’m now leaving so don’t bother to reply. I’ve wasted enough time anyway.

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The press acts as if the problem is on both sides. The Republicans put out outrageous lies and the press searches for a balance in lying by both sides not debating the merit of the subject lied about. The public becomes disinterested thinking both sides are liars which benefits the GOP who have many who care less how they make their ends.

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FRED…..98%???? So what you’re saying is…………. there’s a chance?

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Harry Reid is a shining example of why we need to do something about professional, career politicians…I know Jay you feel that only career politicians need apply but this guy, Pelosi, and any number of too-long serving GOP’ers get corrupted by the system and are completely rendered impotent…blinded by self interests and campaign cash..

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Jay,
Nancy Pelosi (just like Al Gore) is NOT the face of the democratic party that should be put forward if one wants compromise (or anything else.) Like the old Greek habit of “Killing the messenger” if he brought bad news from the front, Pelosi is held in much disdain by even moderates and independants. Unfortunately, the human factor does enter. I realize countless folks will post later, pointing out conservatives with likewise snotty personalities, etc. but we forget….the human factor, regardless of the rhetoric, does enter the fray. Pelosi is so snide and snotty she could offend somebody while presenting them with their winning lottery ticket. Point in case; she is not the one to put forward as a source, and NO it is not because she is a she! Its because she is Pelosi….’nuff said!

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I agree, Jay. I don’t think those hard-headed, hard-hearted right wingers are going to change this cycle unless they lose so badly they have to or continue to lose. Demographics are against them as they struggle like cornered rats and get even more vicious, knowing the old white low-information voters will die out and brown people will outnumber them. I look forward to the day, maybe 2016..

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Fred it’s still an honest question no matter how much you suspect my motives…I haven’t misled you…. I didn’t see the Bush Tax cuts as a compromise as much as I did see it as avoidance of political suicide …is it a compromise when you have really one choice?

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Relax people, no matter who gets elected, we have many years of bad road ahead of us. The economy is a tortoise. Just laugh, there is nothing we can do about it. The hungry will get hungrier, the homeless will get colder, your grown kids in your house will be there a little longer. Watch your blood pressure, it ain’t gonna get any better either way.

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“Ok. He made the stimulus bill 1/3 tax cuts to get Republican votes but very few Republicans(3)voted for it.”

3 Republican Senators and no members of the Republicans House I believe.

Yet Sonny Perdue sent a letter to Obama asking for more stimulus dollars. Governor Perdue was representing every single Republican governor as head of the Republican Governor’s Association. Every single Republican governor signed the letter, including Rick Perry who would later campaign against it.

All but 3 Republican Congressmen voted against the stimulus yet every single Republican governor wanted more money. What was the goal of the Republican Congressmen?

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Gordon

You certainly wasted enough of all of our time.
Try some clarity next time.
Patronizingly Yours…

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Joe Hussein Mama

September 5th, 2012
4:25 pm

I like pork butt and I can not lie
You other eaters can’t deny
That when a three-choice plate
With a couple of sides
And a iced tea’s in your face
You get SPRUNG
Wanna eat it up
Until your gut is stuffed
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Freaking hilarious. Did you make that up? Sounds like a good Weird Al.

But since I love that song it’s a good excuse to play it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY84MRnxVzo

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BADAss BING

September 5th, 2012
4:36 pm

FRED…..98%???? So what you’re saying is…………. there’s a chance?
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A chance for what :O

The other two percent are serious.

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Proud to be me

” Obama has been the intransigent President and is leader of the intransigent party!!!”

Sigh… you just want someone to ask, don’t you? Couldn’t provide examples in your original post, could you?

Okay… I’ll play…. can you please enlighten us with a few significant examples where Pres Obama has been intransigent in his dealings with Congress? (I hear the approach of the Obamacare shibboleth).

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Ansd a Romney election would cause the Democrats to be just as obstructionistic (?) as they were during the Bush years.

why do you feel you need to make stuff up in order to win an argument? Or is it supposed to divert attention from your not being able to spell?

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Paul,

“Beat me to it.”

I’ll let you sprtiz the next butt and ribs.

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“And for me to be able to say to the Republicans, the election is over; you no longer need to be focused on trying to beat me; what you need to be focused on and what you should have been focused on from the start is how do we advance the American economy ”

The gop would be held accountable for not uniting to do this and it would be over by now in a sane, fair country but half our country will never hold the gop accountable.

Then they cry about it. I am glad it is almost over because getting cons to think for themselves is exhausting.

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Intransigence is TOO Nice of a Description of the Republicans.

Bumbling and incompetent INSURGENTS are more an accurate description.
Who would have guessed that the repubs would have purposely P’od so many different voting blocs in an upcoming election YEAR!

Especially, against a candidate they have HATED with so much PASSION and ANGER. One would have expected cooler heads to prevail but NOOOOOoooooo!

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JCB — “Oh and Joe Hussein Mama, your delight with ice tea is disturbing.”

Don’t know if you’ve ever lived somewhere where you couldn’t get good iced tea, but I was absorbing it like a sponge after I got out of the Army and came back heah.

This was the *only* place where I even found *passable* iced tea out in Hawaii, and by passable, I mean barely tolerable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy%27s

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Fred — “Freaking hilarious. Did you make that up?”

I did make that up. Thank you!

And I do agree that Weird Al could make something good out of that song. Plus, it involves food, which seems to be a big thing to him.

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jewcowboy

Gotta go see “Lawless” with Shia Labeouf.

Cool fedoras.

and cars.

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Gee== now the Dems are going to re-instate Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Its amazing what they can do in one day.

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Why work with a guy that is trying to destroy the country? Hopefully this is a moot point the morning after the election.

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I never agree with Nancy Pelosi on anything but this time I believe she is correct about the working together thing?

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Joe Hussein Mama,

“This was the *only* place where I even found *passable* iced tea out in Hawaii, and by passable, I mean barely tolerable.”

I certainly understand. When I travel, I travel with Luzianne tea bags and make my own iced tea.

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Paul,

“Gotta go see “Lawless” with Shia Labeouf.”

I preferred him in the Sigur Ros music video…sans the fedora.

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Tom

If more people would communicate that to their Congressman we just might make progress.

I wrote mine and told him Congress needs to get the Medicare reimbursement rate for health care providers up to a reasonable level and I’d support an increase in my taxes to make it happen.

He responded but avoided addressing that point.

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Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka “Knuckle-Dragger”)

September 5th, 2012
4:58 pm

Why work with a guy that is trying to destroy the country? Hopefully this is a moot point the morning after the election.
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No one is trying to work with you. Why would they? You are insignificant just like the rest of us who post here.

Oh and quit trying to destroy the Country.

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jewcowboy

Where you been? Glad to see you back…and you’re funny! Thanks for being here to lighten things up…

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Great… now we’re going to hear the new rallying cry of the Right:

“Butt spritzers of the world, unite!!”

Why does the Right hate ribs?

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Midori,

How many dozens of pieces of legislation have been passed by the House – only to go nowehere in the (led by Harry Reid) Senate ?

How long has it been since the (led by Harry Reid) Senate has passed a budget?

Wasn’t it the (led by Harry Reid) Senate that changed the rules in order to pass “ObamaCare” – against the wishes of the majority of the American public?

Wasn’t it Harry Reid (who leads the Senate) who said of the War in Iraq, “The war is lost. The Surge has failed.”)?

Or am I making those up?

Lets see if you can find anything wrong with those items other than a typo.

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Re-election??You have got to be kidding.

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Corrupt, treasonous, administration; corrupt treasonous media: a little confirmation for ya from one who’s been there: “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Cicero

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don.

No kidding.

Four more years.

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If President Obama believes that Congress is going to be any more flexible during his second term, he is in for severe disappointment.

What I see is the likelihood of a Republican-controlled House and a Republican-controlled Senate. Even Real Clear Politics sees a 51-49 split in the Senate in favor of the Republicans—and that’s not even counting the Missouri seat, for which Akin is still ahead—and no one is projecting the likelihood of the Democrats’ regaining control of the House.

That’s a recipe for stalemate, with Republicans continually forwarding Republican budgets and bills to the Executive Branch and Obama vetoing them. And forget about filling those vacant seats in the judiciary. If the Republicans have been unwilling to confirm most of Obama’s nominees in the past four years, what makes anyone think they’ll change their spots in the next four years.

The next four years are likely to be a constant battle over health care legislation and tax cuts, with continual attempts to force changes in Social Security and Medicare, not to mention Medicaid. Congress has the purse and Obama has the veto pen. It ain’t lookin’ pretty.

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What Barack is really saying is I did not compromise my first term because I knew that my radical leftist base would turn on me in the next election and that if you WHITE centrist people will just help re-elect me, there is nothing my base can do to me because after four more years I am done anyway. This is an admission from a gutless politician and incompetent leader. He had the first two years of his administration all to himself because his party controlled the House and the Senate and what did they do to create jobs? They bailed out GM and GM still owes the American taxpayers 30 billion dollars which will never be payed back. GM stock would have to go to $53.00 per share for us working taxpayers to even break even and where is GM stock right now? About $23.00. All Obama did his first term was spend taxpayer money and turn more and more people to entitlements, and America is much worse off for it. The big boned and towering Michelle Obama’s speech was tired and pathetic. She had the audacity to ask for people to support her husband to “move us forward”. In the last four years Obama has done nothing but move us backwards. Race relations are worse. The economy is much worse and our world standing is far, far weaker and Russia and China are laughing at us and cheering for Barack to be re-elected because they know weakness when they see it. What exactly was Michelle talking about when she says “moving forward”? I guess she means moving us forward into some kind of marxist/socialist nirvana she and her husband have created in their simplistic Chicago/Harvard trained minds.

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Paul

Del is Recon

0311 & Scout are the same blogger

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You people just don’t get it, do you?

Bookman’s first paragraph reminds me of the Godfather movie where we heard the logic of intimidation, “I’ll have your signature on the contract or your brains all over it”. Unless Obama puts a gun to our head, why would we want to cooperate with him and you liberals? Look at his record. Are you people crazy?

Why would we want bigger government, government intrusion into our lives, huge taxes, unemployment of 8-12 percent, amnesty for illegal aliens, crippling debt, criminals running Treasury and the DOJ, bloated entitlement systems, a First Lady joy riding to free vacations, a Secretary of Defense joy riding to California every weekend, a former Speaker of the House joy riding everywhere in the world, a former chairman of the House & Ways Committee cheating on taxes, a Democrat Senate surreptitiously jamming legislation down America’s choking throat, and a inept president running our country into the ground? You people are crazy if you think that we need to be bi-partisan.

I must say that Bookman is right in his appraisal of the ill informed American public. They did vote for the Hope & Change idiot in the last election, but that was then. See you all at the polls.

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jew cowboy@5:03 – My wife and I saw Lawless over the weekend, really enjoyed it. Seeing the 1910 yrs will make you think we have it really good now!

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“I see this president sit for hours being very respectable, but trying to find a path where there could be agreement when there is [none],” Pelosi said. “‘Never. Does never work for you?’ That’s really what they’re saying to the president.”

Yes, half our country will reward the unpatriotic behavior of the gop with their votes. They will vote for a moderate that hides his taxes and details to his plans. Then they cry about how our President is destroying our country and everything is his fault. Unbelievable but that is modern day American politics.

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Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

September 5th, 2012
5:09 pm

Paul@4:51 – The rich, high achievers or whatever you want to call them, they are our best chance to employ people. I am not envious of them, whether they got their wealth thru inheritance or simply being successful. I am not one of them, just the average middle income little guy but Obama is the 1st President to start this CLASS WARFARE thing. I am in my 60’s, I do not remember any other President saying this. This free entitlement society has got to slow down(notice, I did not say stop), if you care about your children or grand children’s future. I do care!!
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Really? You care? Then why do you give a free pass to the super rich raping American companies, closing them down and sending all the jobs to China? Obama didn’t do that, Romney did. The Koch brothers did and do. I paid 9% income tax last year, how about you?

I would vneture to guess my household income is at least 3 (if not 4) times yours, yet I only paid 9% income tax. What percentage did YOU pay?

While I love the cash, I’m not going to sit here and say it’s equitable or that I’m “paying my fair share” as opposed to those who pay their full 25-27% while making a fraction of what we do. That is becasue it’s NOT right. And I’m a small fry.

YOU are the one engaging in class warfare, you are sucking up to the “upper class” and toting thei mail for them. Of COURSE they want to continue to pay small percentages of their income in taxes. They are IMPORTANT, let the little people pay. Let them eat cake. I understand THEIR thinking, what I don’t understand is YOURS. Why do you allow them to screw you and all you do is say thank you?

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Paul

September 5th, 2012
5:13 pm

Fred

Del’s Scout, isn’t he?
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Nope, Del is Recon lol. Scout is Scout. He (scout) uses more numerals than Recon(del).

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Fred

You see my 5:12?

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The DNC has decide to add the words God and Jerusalem to their platform. I guess they decided they might lose a vote or two by initially excluding them.

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Pres. O has evidently forgotten that the last time a Democratic president won reelection, the Republicans were so outraged they demanded $46M in oppo paid for out of taxpayer funds, an impeachment trial, and several government shutdowns. It’s hard for the Rs to imagine how an election that doesn’t go their way can possibly be legitimate, and why would they want to cooperate with an illegitimate president? They don’t have any particular motivation to be productive at the people’s business because they are ideologically opposed to having government do anything for the people. In their eyes, government should work only to help Wall Street and the military.

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“0311 & Scout are the same blogger”

I think Jay said no.

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Donovan,

“Why would we want bigger government, government intrusion into our lives”

Good question. I forget…which party wants to shove wands into the vagina’s of women?

http://www.economist.com/node/21548983

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td,

Was that a stupid rush line?

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Looks like Obama got embarrassed today and had the Dems put God and Jerusalem back into the platform. Wonder if any of the MSM will cover this one?

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Just bringing up Nanny Pelosi lets us know that Obama has never and will never compromise with the Repubs. Nanny compromise? Get serious.

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“nice try jay, but the primary goal is to defeat lib/BHO’s poor theories/ideas”

Brilliant!!! Defeat ideas without even trying them, just to supplant them with tired, disproven, discredited, retreads for ideas that have proven disastrous for the last decade…

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Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka “Knuckle-Dragger”)
September 5th, 2012
4:58 pm

Why work with a guy that is trying to destroy the country?
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Exactly, that is why Romney & Ryan are such a bad choice for America.

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Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF),

“Seeing the 1910 yrs will make you think we have it really good now!”

Yeah…you can’t get any good child labor any more. They are like, “feed me”, “unchain me from my sewing machine”, and “can I have a bandage for my mangled hand”. Spoiled b@stards.

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Willie – You don’t have it right. Obama never had a majority that wanted to do what he wanted to do. He had to compromise to get enough – 60 in the senate – to pass any kind of health care reform.

Then Kennedy died and he didn’t have the sixty votes. Can’t get anything through without some GOP votes.

So we will go with the laws we have on the books now.

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Morality?

September 5th, 2012
5:25 pm

Just bringing up Nanny Pelosi lets us know that Obama has never and will never compromise with the Repubs. Nanny compromise? Get serious.
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Do you actually believe that lie? Do you expect us to believe it?

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“We built that Lie!” – GOP

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0311 & Scout are the same blogger”

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No, Jay has confirmed they are different people. They may share the same brain, but they are different people.

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(BYW, did the slut prostitute Lush ever get any of his sponsors back? LOL!!)

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And Sears just kicked him to the curb

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del and scout are old vets out to get our President like the rest of the cons.

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Show me ONE example where Nanny Pelosi and Obama compromised on any thing with the
Repubs. I am still waiting.

Wow! Talk about ostricheville!

LOL, Midori! Poor Lush, the lunatic fringe must be getting lonely…

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“No, Jay has confirmed they are different people. They may share the same brain, but they are different people.”

Oh my gosh, there are TWO of them?

What if they reproduce?

Heaven help us!!!!

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“I’m prepared to make a whole range of compromises, some of which I get criticized from the Democratic Party on, in order to make progress.”

This statement tells me that he knows if he would just work with republicans, the country would be better off.

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Oscar

September 5th, 2012
5:29 pm

0311 & Scout are the same blogger”

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No, Jay has confirmed they are different people. They may share the same brain, but they are different people.
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Wrong. Scout IS 0311/8541/5811/1811/1801. There is no subterfuge or attempt by him to hide that fact. He changed his name. Believe me on this or don’t lol it doesn’t matter, either way I’m RIGHT.

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Reagan sucks. – Ayn Rand

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OSCAR
@ 5:28

Nope, they’re one and the same. Back when I could still use his name for himself with being sent to gehenna for “name calling,” I always addressed numbers guy by the name and communicated back and forth…

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Fred (TM) – You calling me a liar doesn’t prove a thing – Dems don’t compromise any more than the Repubs. They both follow party lines and idiots like Nanny Pelosi. Obama going to Nanny Pelosi for advice on economics is like trying to get eggs from a pine tree.

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josef, been working like a madman over here, who is tonight’s whiney baby?

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A serious question for the ardent Republicans:

Why is it that when Republicans put in their platform that a woman or child became pregnant as the result of rape or incest could not get an abortion, the response was “oh, it’s just the platform. Candidates don’t run on the platform. It’s not big deal.”

But when Democrats did their thing with God and Jerusalem, suddenly its The Most Important Thing In The Election!!!”

Why is that?

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…Jerusalem back into the platform.

td, how come American Jews never vote for Republicans in more than miniscule percentages?

Just curious…

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Secret Service Investigating Purported Ransom of Mitt Romney’s Tax Returns

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/secret-service-investigating-purported-ransom-of-mitt-romneys-tax-returns/

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midori…. Rush’s main sponsor now is an Income Tax Resolution service. They are not concerned with offending people because most of theRush haters don’t pay income tax.

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Another Prog who finally saw the light————————————

“In fact, I think in many ways the most interesting candidate – I’d even vote for him if he was running against Obama – is Ron Paul. Because he’s the only one of anybody who’s saying anything intelligent about the future of the world.”
Oliver Stone

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Bada,

you know how silly you sound?

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Oscar

September 5th, 2012
5:38 pm

Fred – Sorry, I misread the comment. I thought they were talking about 0311 and Recon. My mistake.

This one eyes have troble seeing the monitor. Looks a little blurry.
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Well dammit, I’ll tell you like I told my daughter then. QUIT GETTING OLDER.

Seriously though, try hitting the Ctrl key AND at the same time the + key. It will magnify your screen.

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heathen,

Ya think the Obamas will beat w’s record on vacations?

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And now for a little “balance”:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/315861/clinton-s-nostalgianomics-editors

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Ostrich land – where all good Dems go to die. You rant and rave and call me a liar, etc. etc. etc. but have not shown me ONE instance where Obama and Nanny compromised with the Repubs. At least make up something that sounds half real. Still waiting. Obama Care is the greatest underfunded PONZI scheme in history. Brain dead zombies for Obama depend on the gub’ment to think for them. Just keep sending the plantation owners (Harry Weed & Nanny Pelosi) your vote and let them think for you – there you go – played again – S U C K E R S.

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I don’t think cons that focused on getting our President after a collapse are worthy of one post about them.

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“Harry Weed”

How about that? A con came up with something new.

Congrats liar.

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Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

September 5th, 2012
5:40 pm

Ok Fred, I’ll play. If your income is 3 or 4 times what the average(like mine is), either you were successful in your business or inherited wealth. Perhaps you are college educated and it payed off for you, I am not one bit jealous of your success. good for you. that should be what this country is all about. I appauld your success but just because a person is wealthy does not make him a good person, especially if he has a habit of being crude and attempting to talk down to others!
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So what has this to do with you spouting the talk radio bumper sticker lies? Or YOU a slackard? Did you sit around and cheat YOUR employer out of money because you were a loser?

Apparently you were because you call OTHER “high achievers.” I mean by saying that you are saying you didn’t work hard. You didn’t achieve. and I’M talking down to YOU? YOU are talking down to yourself. The amount of money you make pal is not a measure of your hard work. Mother Theresa lived a life of poverty, ye tI would call HER a high achiever. Your hero Neal Boortz makes a crap load of money since he sold out to the Republican party, I would merely call him an asshat. A hundred years from now, hell 10, who will be remembered? Neal? Or Mother Theresa.

At 60 years old, one would have thought you would be wiser. I don’t have a boot in your neck, Boortz does. He LOVES you toting the mail for him, keep it up he’s gonna give you……… nothing but disdain. He MAY sya thanks if you park his car but don’t count on it. He’s important and you are a peon. I however see you as a person. A DELUDED person, but a person nonetheless.

Free your mind. It’s not too late. I have hope for you.

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Ostrich land.

Yep, if the foo sh*Its, wear it.

The COMPROMISE that President Obama offered last Friday to Catholic leaders regarding the religious exemption for contraception coverage is not only a reasonable solution to the situation, it is also a political win for Obama.

Obama announced last Friday that he would make an “accommodation” to nonprofit religious-affiliated organizations such as hospitals and universities, permitting them to be exempt from the requirement in his health-care law that says contraception must be included in all health-insurance plans. Female employees could obtain it directly from the insurance companies, with no increase in their premium.

One of many, Oliver the ostrich…

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Ya think the Obamas will beat w’s record on vacations?

get: You will not find a post of mine where I faulted President Obama for taking vacations, because I don’t think you get a vacation from that job. Communication and responsibility is 24/7 whether you are on Martha’s Vineyard or the Crawford Ranch. I do think Michelle’s junkets, and “Date Night in New York” were a bit excessive, especially considering the economic mess that the country was in at the time. You notice that they cooled on that stuff after the first year in office, because it gave a bad impression, and rightfully so, in my opinion.

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THOMAS
@ 5:18

You’re dumb as dirt. That didn’t fly the first time around with good reason. If you knew anything about Tsa-la-gi history, you’d know just what you sound like…

ZamVet, midori

I can’t call him by name, but our melt down man from earlier who was gonna go down to tell his bosom buddies in high places at the AJC just how mean Fred was to him….

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Jewcowboy @ 5:23

Is that all you have? I am sitting here having a cocktail reading all this liberal drival and thinking how ridiculous all you Bookman myrmidons rally around a loser and a losing cause.

I used to take the Economist as one of my reading assignments. It didn’t take me long to figure out that this magazine was a liberal United Kingdom entity that still blames the colonies for its demise. Give me a break! You sound like Bookman referencing the New York Times, Washington Post, and the LA Times as gospel info.

I eat your “astute” reference news rag for breakfast each morning and visit the water closet shortly thereafter.

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These old white men want war. They want to orchestrate chaos, death on a massive scale, endless rivers of blood. Every 30-50 years this social pathology of conquest and destruction erupts in war on a massive scale.
No rational being can stand up against the tide of unreason that is overtaking the U.S. It won’t stop until we wage war against Arab countries and China and reinstate the draft to do so.
Obama’s flaw is that he is a rational being. He tries to reason with men who are beyond reason and possessed by blood lust. They don’t hear him. All they hear is the siren song of war and death.

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Josef

and why does another posting keep posting vomit calling it “balance”??

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“n” is posting during a break at the convention.

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josef, I see.

Too bad, I always kinda liked the guy and even stood up for him once when some drive by troll spit on him (so to speak.)

But then something happened to him. Not once, not twice but thrice he personally insulted me for making my generalized lunatic rantings that had nothing at all to do with him.

At that point, I pretty much told him to p*ss off.

Sadly, he never manned up and that was that.

C’est le guerre…

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A Romney election not likely to ease the donkey party intransigence.

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Debbie, he has never lost his adopted chi-town roots, he is as big a crook and thug as Capone ever was. Lot of simular things there, including both of gangsters had a mayor of chicago in pocket. Only difference is barry’s army is much bigger than Al’s was.

Dude seriously? Isn’t it too early to start drinking?

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On Obama and Israel,..an interesting read…

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/opinion/the-truth-about-obama-and-israel.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120905

MIDORI

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

ZamVet
I’ve had it in for that closet case drunken swine for a while now…no respect for him whatsoever…none, zero, zilch, nada, rien…pig penis he…

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Fading Obama Poster

September 5th, 2012
6:01 pm

An article with charts – ya’ll should love this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/315779/better-question-patrick-brennan

Nice link pal. All I get is this over and over again.

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Shirley Lasseter another great Gwinnett republican goes to jail.

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Midori

September 5th, 2012
6:00 pm

can’t do that Fred, because his premise is just another bald faced lie packaged to appear as fact.
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You think? I think it’s sarcasm posted as humor.

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Donovan

“thinking how ridiculous all you Bookman myrmidons ”

You really need to work on your insults. Calling people by the name of the personal troops commanded by one of the greatest warriors in Greek mythology ain’t exactly an insult.

Maybe it’s a Freudian thing. Deep down, you admire them.

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td, you gotta be sh*tting me!

Harry Truman was elected president 64 years ago!!!

So you are saying that American Jews are so damn clueless that they voted for the Democrat in the next sixteen presidential elections because of “Give “em hell” Harry?

OMG!

THAT is the most bizarre explanation (out of numerous others) that I have ever heard! Seriously!

Try again! (But this time at least try to incorporate American right wing neofascism and hyper-bigotry into your “explanation”!)

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“He didn’t come to me for help, of course,” Kristol said. “I’m not going to acknowledge that. He came to me to make sure I was supporting his sound policies. Of course, since his sound policies are more like the policies people like me have been advocating for quite a while, I’m happy to support them. He’s a born-again neo-con.”
Bill Kristol………………………………………….Obama Neocon Handler.
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LOL.

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“So are the Republicans going to go back and fix THEIR platform too, re: Jerusalem and the embassy, etc.?”

I’m guessing not.

That would mean they’re wrong and the need to fix it.

Next step, they’ll start compromising, and we just couldn’t have that!

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ZamVet
I’ve had it in for that closet case drunken swine for a while now…no respect for him whatsoever…none, zero, zilch, nada, rien…pig penis he…
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Damn Josef. Et je pensais que nous étions amis

(and for those of you who don’t speak the devils tongue: Damn Josef. And I thought we were friends)

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josef @ 6:10

Amen……….. And you know it is big when I say “AMEN”.

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midori

I gotta start being nice now, though, Big Daddy’s home…

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Tom, no disrespect intended!

I love my USAF brothers.

Even if they are misguided Republicans! (grin!)

Though I couldn’t really see it at the time (hell I was just a teenager for most of it!), those were some of the most exciting times in my life!

Great people, a fantastic job (avionics) and tons of great memories and WILD times!

Aim high, baby!

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Can’t wait for Slick Willie’s sermon tonight.

Will he reprise his “the era of big government is over” meme?

Bwaahahahahahahaha!

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Jamvet & Fred – I’ll admit it, sometimes I unwisely come over to Jay’s site, instead of staying on Kyle’s more friendly cons site. I guess I am just curious about other people. You two do have a way of getting under people’s skin, instead of trying to win them over to your side. Of course that is your call. Never thought I would agree with Fred on anything but he is right, it does not matter who is elected or re-elected this country is still headed for some hard times down the road. No way any President, House or Senate agrees on anything unless they are all from the same party. Perhaps we can agree on that?

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Weather in Charlotte, NC tomorrow. Scattered thunderstorms with only a 20% chance of rain. Something tells me that the buses that they sent to every hamlet in NC were not successful in bringing back enough people to hear the Annointed One speak. Something tells me that they were just not interested in coming. What makes this clown think that he can fill a 74K person stadium with enough people from North Carolina, a definite swing state. Even the college students apparently are not interested. Great planning liberals. But don’t fill us full of that BS that it’s the fault of the weather. He should have had the convention in San Francisco. He could have filled two stadiums, complete with styrofoam Greek columns and ferns.

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Tom

“my wife calls me Spartacus, for a good reason!”

Ummmm….. you sure about that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhePEs4IL8w&feature=related#t=02m45s

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“Can’t wait for Slick Willie’s sermon tonight.”

Oh, wait.

Is there football on tonight?

If so, never mind…

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Karl Rove-approved Cracking–

“US Aircraft Carrier Stennis Is Now En Route To Join Enterprise And Eisenhower Off Iranian Coast”

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“I love my USAF brothers.”

How about the sisters?

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Both parties only pay lip service to the capital of Israel issue. Actually move our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and then I’ll really believe you’re sincere.

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“Charlotte, N.C. — The chief meteorologist at a Charlotte television station is questioning the decision by Democrats to move President Obama’s acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention to a smaller venue because of the weather. “Thursday night will likely be the best weather of the entire week,” Brad Panovich of WCNC-NBC TV wrote…”

I’m guessing the DNC ran out of cigarette packs, $20 bills, and pints of vodka.

Or maybe takers.

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Tom

See, we have more fun over here than those sticks-in-the-mud at Kyle’s place.

I’m sure she’s the good wife, with an entirely different Spartacus in mind!

Maybe the great rebel against the Romans, or maybe just a play on words and she means these guys?

http://tinyurl.com/96kvqp4

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LOOKS LIKE YOU GUESSED WRONG.

Where did you get your info? Rush’s blog???

Andre Sayegh, a Paterson councilman, is literally lobbying, sitting in the lobby of a hotel here, making calls, talking to fellow conventioneers, trying to find a way to get to see President Obama on Thursday night. He is one of more than 60,000 who won’t get to see the president because his planned open-air appearance has been moved inside.

“I drove 10 hours to see him,” says Sayegh, whose wife Farhanna is a delegate and will get to see Obama’s acceptance speech. It was moved inside the Time Warner Cable Arena because of forecasts of severe thunderstorms.

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Boy you Romneyites or whatever you call yourselves

Kind of sad, they haven’t even bothered to come up with a cute way to identify as Those Who Will Vote For The Robot.

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No way any President, House or Senate agrees on anything unless they are all from the same party. Perhaps we can agree on that?

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Not even those in the same party agree. Just ask the Speaker of the House about the tea party that came to the house in 2010. The right wing has kept him awake at night, and forced him to recant of some of the agreements he had made with the President.
And then there are, or were, the Blue Dog Dems.

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PAUL

Spartacus…heh, heh…took the words out of my mouth…

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F. Sinkwich

September 5th, 2012
6:40 pm

Bogus. Just like Moochelle.
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Cool making racist disparaging remarks toward FLOTUS makes you a REAL man. I’m so impressed with you now big boy. I think I’m getting hot……..

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Anybody heard from Huh? today…hope you mean old geezers didn’t run him off!

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well Sinkwich,

you know bogus well don’t you?

pot meet kettle.

and the reason you haven’t heard of it is perhaps — just maybe, your choice of news outlets suck to high heaven?

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josef

Huh? was in earlier. Had some nice exchanges. I think he’ll be back.

The Force is strong with him. He’s ripe for persuasion to the Dark Side…..

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