Gov. Deal chooses party loyalty over Ga. citizenry
Gov. Nathan Deal faced a choice. He could choose to be loyal to his party’s political ideology, or he could choose to be loyal to some 650,000 of his fellow Georgians in need of health insurance.
He has chosen loyalty to party, declining to let Georgia participate in the expansion of Medicaid coverage offered through Obamacare. The result will be unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death. That may sound harsh, but it is also stark reality: When you deny health -care coverage to hundreds of thousands of people, as Deal has decided to do, those outcomes are inevitable.
There will be other consequences as well. The decision blocks an influx of billions and billions of federal health -care dollars — an estimated $14.5 billion between 2014 and 2019 alone — that would provoke significant job growth. Georgia taxpayers will be paying to fund that expanded coverage in other states, most of which will take it eagerly, but their governor has decided that they’ll get none of the benefits.
Turning that money away will also raise the risk of closure by rural hospitals, which are already struggling under the financial burden of providing so much care to the uninsured. (Last year, Georgia hospitals lost an estimated $1.5 billion caring for people without insurance, and rural residents are more likely to be uninsured than their urban and suburban counterparts.)
Medicaid expansion would have been a lifesaver to those hospitals and to the doctors who practice there, but that lifesaver has now been yanked away. That will have significant economic-development implications for Georgia beyond the immediate loss of federal dollars. The availability of modern health -care facilities is a prime consideration for any business or industry looking to relocate. As rural hospitals close and doctors leave, employers will leave as well, taking with them the last hope of prosperity for many small communities.
In announcing his decision at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Deal cited the potential cost to Georgia taxpayers, which his administration estimates at $4.5 billion over a 10-year period. However, independent cost estimates put the state’s share of expansion much lower. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates it at $714 million for the first five years of the program, or roughly 0.17 percent of state GDP. The Urban Institute puts it at $716 million for the first six years.
However, as Tim Sweeney of the Georgia Budget and Policy Institute points out, even the governor’s figure of $4.5 billion “would represent only a 1.9 percent increase in total state spending.”
In assessing the costs, you also have to look at two other things: How great is the need for expanded health coverage in Georgia, and how much does the state already spend? Are we already spending as much if not more than other states?
Hardly. Georgia is 47th in state health spending per capita. It is 49th in the amount it spends per Medicaid patient. Twenty percent of our citizens are uninsured, the fifth-highest uninsured rate in the nation, and we stand at 39th in life expectancy. Yet according to the governor, we can’t afford to address any of those issues, even if it means a stronger state economy and better health care and longer lives for hundreds of thousands of Georgians.
We can, however, afford hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new Falcons stadium, not to mention billions of dollars in tax breaks to businesses. Priorities, you know.
– Jay Bookman
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Mr. Snarky
August 31st, 2012
9:08 am
Running the state into the ground…what a surprise!
King of Everything
August 31st, 2012
9:11 am
But that’s what the people who voted for him wants to see, that he would feed them to the wolves rather than make Obama look good. Damn if you do, damn if you don’t.
#1 Foxy Lady
August 31st, 2012
9:14 am
Enter your comments here
King of Everything
August 31st, 2012
9:16 am
After Obama wins re-election and many of the Obama care benefits kicks in, Deal may not be able to snake his way out of this and get re-elected. But then again he was one of the top 10 most corrupt congressman, so we will see.
#1 Foxy Lady
August 31st, 2012
9:17 am
….and rural residents are more likely to be uninsured than their urban and suburban counterparts.
To all of you all you rural redneck Republicans, SUCK IT!, suckers.
Robert Lee
August 31st, 2012
9:23 am
Well, you all voted for him so enjoy what you’re getting and say thank you. Dang I can’t wait to move back to Florida with all the crazy people.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
9:23 am
I actually think that Deal wants to make another run at Congress after the smoke clears from his last tenure, so of course he’s going to play the ideological game and screw Georgia. The only state he’s looking after is the State of Deal…
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
9:24 am
Republicans elected the fool. Now they have to live with the consequences. Will the party base step up to the plate and show how charitable they are and take care of these people. No. Sure, a few people will get a little care but no effort by churches across the state will come close to matching the billions in funds from the fed. So, the poor and destitute and ill will be ignored and if anyone asks about them, I’m sure the Real Deal will be quick to tell us how he made sure they were all given equal opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, like any true follower of the teachings of Christ would do.
larry
August 31st, 2012
9:24 am
Why is this a suprise. He’s going to choose whomever butters’ his bread. And that would be the RGA. The Republican Governors Association has been against the ACA since the start. And since the RGA helped Deal by pouring millions of dollars into the election in 2010, he is going to decide the way they want him to decide.
But we can give over $1Billion in tax incentives in the hope they will bring jobs.
Recon 0311 2533
August 31st, 2012
9:25 am
I thought the SCOTUS ruling that states could opt in or out of expanded Medicaid meant if a state chose the latter the federal government would then foot the bill for exchange coverage for those who wouldn’t be covered by state Medicaid?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
August 31st, 2012
9:26 am
Republicans just don’t support the little people. Case closed.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
9:27 am
Robert lee,
you just may have a point there. I’m retiring march of next year and I’m already trying to figure where I want to live. My mother and father are buried here, my sister lives here and so does most of my family, but I fear they will have to leave and I don’t want to live here alone. Florida, while it has its strange Governor, it’s better than here seems like.
Simple Truths
August 31st, 2012
9:27 am
Jay, you want stark reality: we’re broke.
bez
August 31st, 2012
9:27 am
People who voted for him didn’t understand what they were going to get from him. They should have.
Proud to be me
August 31st, 2012
9:27 am
Governor Deal chose common sense in this matter!
Steve Shamrock
August 31st, 2012
9:29 am
Clint Eastwood is the man!!!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
9:30 am
When you think about it, what’s happening in Georgia is, in a nutshell, what will happen to the country if the GOP gains power. Georgia is our wake up call folks. Reveille, Reveille…all hands on deck…
Ennis
August 31st, 2012
9:31 am
Taking care of this state’s citizens was never a priority of Deal even before he was elected Gov of this state. What did the people that elected him expect??? His record was touted out, and the tobacco chewing, beer drinking, red-necks elected him anyway. Records don’t count in this state. If you don’t believe it, go look and see who just got elected to Clayton County Sheriff’s Office. You get what you vote for…
gm
August 31st, 2012
9:33 am
Come on Bookman, is there a surprise here? this is another hypocrite southern Gov, whats amazing are the poor trailers that leave down in rural georgia who have no health insurance but chose to stand with a bunch of rich white males who never had there interest.
Now when the next tragic happens in Georgia deal will go calling on Mayor Reed to use his influence in DC to get funding for these hillbillies in Georgia, Reed please dont do it, let this state suffer””””’
saywhat?
August 31st, 2012
9:33 am
I work in healthcare. It may be time to uproot and leave the state soon, especially when the hospital U work for has to start making drastic cuts everywhere to compensate for the loss of income.
Aquagirl
August 31st, 2012
9:34 am
DEATH PANELS!
ragnar danneskjold
August 31st, 2012
9:34 am
When a Republican wants health care, he buys it for himself, or he goes out and gets a job that offers it. When a Democrat wants health care, he whines that the taxpayers ought to give it to him.
East Lake Ira
August 31st, 2012
9:34 am
The Gov. can’t see beyond his next election so of course he panders to his base.
His loyalty is to himself and his bank account.
He’s a pig.
Alashema
August 31st, 2012
9:36 am
Gov. Deal is right to turn away “billions and billions of federal health-care dollars”. It’s easy to forget that we are federal taxpayers, too. And that’s money the government doesn’t even have – they borrow ~ 40% of every dollar just to pay the bills.
Agree with you on the new stadium though. What a complete and utter waste of money.
Peadawg
August 31st, 2012
9:40 am
“Jay, you want stark reality: we’re broke.”
But like Jay said, “We can, however, afford hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new Falcons stadium, not to mention billions of dollars in tax breaks to businesses.”
Ennis
August 31st, 2012
9:41 am
I really don’t understand why a multi-millionaire would ask a person making less than $53,000.00 to fork over money to pay for 1 of his play-toys when he could do the same with a tax deduction. (wink-wink) Ga. definately has it priorities out of square. But you are right, we need a new football stadium more than we need healthcare in this state.
larry
August 31st, 2012
9:41 am
When a Republican wants health care, he buys it for himself, or he goes out and gets a job that offers it. When a Democrat wants health care, he whines that the taxpayers ought to give it to him.
Wait a minute, i thought there were no jobs because of the President’s policies. But you are saying that there are jobs out there, complete with benefits .
In a state where the unemployment rate has been higher than the national average since July 2007. Are you saying that ?
CarlosSpicy Weiner
August 31st, 2012
9:41 am
The party that had a convention that only pulled 1.3M viewers and lost to a reality T.V. show called Honey Boo Boo that pulled 3.1M viewers. Like sarah palin’s career, the gop is dead!!!!!!
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
9:41 am
“would represent only a 1.9 percent increase in total state spending.”
Only. As if there are just bags of cash sitting there waiting to be spent….
If only.
When you reference state GDP, remember that the state produces nothing.
I realize you look at it as group property. But it isn’t.
Pete
August 31st, 2012
9:44 am
How horrible! Deal is sacrificing our hospitals for party loyalty. But, you know, we voted for him, so we get what we deserve. We all know the GOP cares nothing about poor people anyway, so this should come as no surprise.
larry
August 31st, 2012
9:44 am
The party that had a convention that only pulled 1.3M viewers and lost to a reality T.V. show called Honey Boo Boo that pulled 3.1M viewers.
Maybe they should’ve had Honey Boo Boo up there talking to the chair.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 31st, 2012
9:46 am
#1 Foxy Lady
August 31st, 2012
9:17 am
….and rural residents are more likely to be uninsured than their urban and suburban counterparts.
To all of you all you rural redneck Republicans, SUCK IT!, suckers.
I thought Bookman was going to ban this woman. That settles it! You won’t see me on here the day after the election!
larry
August 31st, 2012
9:47 am
Of course, Gov. Deal has told us the lottery is running out of money after they have a had a record sales year, just to make it harder on college students.
mo money
August 31st, 2012
9:47 am
I have yet to see a solid funding mechanism for the additonal 450M that will be required after the third year to support the Medicaid expansion. The patented just raise taxes doesn cut it, I want to know what taxes will increase or new ones will be created. Who is going to be expected pay for this? Identifying the source of the revenue will go along way towards either gathering support for Deal’s decision or raising opposition.
Simple Truths
August 31st, 2012
9:48 am
Peadawg,
The stadium would probably be the first thing I would cut.
Sean
August 31st, 2012
9:48 am
Everyone on here is asking “why would the rural poor vote for such a guy?”
Well here is all it takes…
1) Does he believe in God?
2) Does he believe in the 2nd amendment?
3) Does he think homos are icky?
4) Is he against abortion?
If yes to all 4, then he has a blank check on everything else because that is all that is important to the folks in rural Georgia ( and for most of the rural USA )
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
9:49 am
Old Gov. Deal went to the cuphoard
to get his little doggie a bone
When he got there, the cupboard was bear
and so the doggie got none
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
9:50 am
$300 million for a new unnecessary stadium. Forget about medicare.
What would Jesus fund?
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
9:51 am
Simple Truths
the govenor can’t cut the stadium funds. They have been approved by the legislature. The legislature would have to cut them by repealing their act.
Stonethrower
August 31st, 2012
9:51 am
The poor don’t contribute to the political party and they don’t vote, thus they don’t matter. As the Shepard once said, ” the poor you will have with you always” (taken completely out of context).
Cosby
August 31st, 2012
9:53 am
Scratching the surface here….not sure of the total cost, nor is anyone, but it would eventually cost the Georgia Taxpayer..those of us who still pay taxes.plus cost alone was not the entire decision making process..but lets think about this..according to Jay’s number it will cost the State millions in FEDERAL FUNDS…sorry, that is OUR money that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT stole..so why do we not request they return some of our money and then let us, the citizens of Georgia decide how to spend it…Why succomb to more FEDERAL CONTROL over our lives…The football Stadium..well the NFL is a non-profit Corporation – that is..they do not pay taxes..yep all you hate Romney folks..The NFL does not pay taxes…so why not all you football nuts request that THEY build a new stadium…but wait..thy give back to the fans – play 60 – yep, that really works – please fans, build the stadium, turn it over to us, we will sell a name, charge high parking rates, high ticket prices, serve high priced conssessions for stale beer and raw hot dogs…you fans are real smart..
Simple Truths
August 31st, 2012
9:54 am
Oscar,
When did the legislature approve the funds for the new stadium? I thought the GWCC did that.
Ahem
August 31st, 2012
9:57 am
BLAH-BLAH-BLAH
Obamacare will be whacked next January.
Jeff
August 31st, 2012
9:57 am
Looking at historical evidence in which the Federal Government moves the costs of their programs from their budget to that of the states after a few years Gov. Deal made a wise decision. THe Feds are only promising a few years of payment at which they can bail and leave the state with the cost of funding the program. As said so many times already, we already have a state budget problem and adding another billion or so of costs is not going to help.
Democratic Party of Georgia
August 31st, 2012
9:58 am
Kasim Reed for Governor!
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
9:59 am
Jesus was about to heal some sick poor people when he was suddenly interrupted by one of his disciples. “Hey Jesus a bunch of us are going to Rome to catch a game at the Coliseum, want to join us?”
Jesus dropped the poor crippled man and said “Hell yes! Go lions, sic ‘em, roar, roar, roar.”
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
9:59 am
Simple Truths
It was several years ago, when Sonny was governor. Jay did a column about it a couple of months ago.
It was for 300 milllion. It passed without notice. I believe since the funds were for use in the future.
Maybe Jay will fill us in, or you could google georgia stadium funds and find it.
Pete
August 31st, 2012
10:00 am
Sean, sadly, you are right. Many rural folks, and others as well, will vote against their best interests if a candidate just says those 4 things. It doesn;t matter how big of a hypocrite or crook he is, those 4 things over-ride everything else.
lynnie gal
August 31st, 2012
10:01 am
When residents of Georgia see other people being able to afford healthcare and not losing their homes, savings and other possessions because they can’t pay their healthcare bills while they can’t afford healthcare coverage and know if they get sick they’re out on the street, maybe they’ll wake up and run these rich, corrupt Republican men out of the state. It’s possible! Georgia used to be considered a sure thing for Republicans–the electoral map showed Georgia solid red. Not so today. Georgia is now showing pink–likely Republican but not guaranteed.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:02 am
Stadium funds. There are more articles discussing the bill and the funding.
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/04/27/the-long-gone-debate-over-public-financing-for-a-new-falcons-stadium/
Jm
August 31st, 2012
10:04 am
“when someone does not do the job, we got to let them go”
Fire Obama.
Deal had to choose the only rational long term fiscal course.
If they will do block grants, no problem.
Simple Truths
August 31st, 2012
10:04 am
Oscar,
You are correct. I found this in the AJC. They extended the hotel tax. I think the GWCC still has to actually spend the funds. I believe Kyle has blogged about the opportunity cost of the stadium, how this tax money can’t be used for other things (spent elsewhere, debt reduction, other tax reductions).
On April 14, 2010, the GOP-controlled House – with near unanimous support from the minority party — gave final, overwhelming approval to HB 903, a bill to permit the extension of the existing hotel/motel tax in Fulton County until the year 2050.
A Republican-controlled Senate had bestowed its similar, oversized blessing one day earlier. A Republican governor, Sonny Perdue, signed HB 903 into law.
Ennis
August 31st, 2012
10:05 am
Would someone please explain this to me in more down to earth terms?? I thought that obama care was supposed to make it so that everyone bought health insurance. My health-care cost are high because of the un-insured. With all paying, my cost should go down, correct?? why then, did I get a letter from my insurance guy saying my premium will go up 12.35% next year??
bob
August 31st, 2012
10:06 am
DannyX, why do you keep bringing up Jesus, we are not a christian nation, Obama said so.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
10:08 am
“Georgia taxpayers will be paying to fund that expanded coverage in other states, most of which will take it eagerly, but their governor has decided that they’ll get none of the benefits.”
Jay has finally discovered the tragedy of the commons.
Race to the bottom of the barrel. The war against big government has begun.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:10 am
Ennis
August 31st, 2012
10:05 am
________
The Supreme Court ruled that the mandate that everyone buy health insurance was unconstitutional.
I believe the court also ruled the congress could not force the states to accept the medicare part of it – the cogress could not vote in a requirment that the states spend state money, and gave the sates the choice not to participate. Georgia has chonse not to participate because of lack of funds.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
10:12 am
“The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates it at $714 million for the first five years of the program”
We can no longer afford short term thinking.
godless heathen
August 31st, 2012
10:12 am
Dang I can’t wait to move back to Florida with all the crazy people.
There is some construction down around Cordele, but other than that I-75 is still wide open.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
August 31st, 2012
10:12 am
“When a Republican wants health care, he buys it for himself, or he goes out and gets a job that offers it….”
***********
Republicans live in a fantasy world where one day you wake up and decide to get a job. So you just go to the job store and pick the most appealing option from the shelf full of available jobs. The vast majority of unemployed adults (of all political beliefs) would prefer to be employed over taking a handout. Corporate profits are back to or near pre-recession levels and many companies are sitting on all time high piles of cash while doling out large bonuses to the Cs & Vs but refuse to add staff. All the while cutting back on 401K matching and increasing employee contribution to healthcare plans.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 31st, 2012
10:13 am
Georgia has chonse not to participate because of lack of funds.
And it will only cost them more in the long run.
Shortsighted and Sad.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:15 am
12.35% premium increase. Damn. You lucky dawg.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 31st, 2012
10:15 am
…. – for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”
- Jesus
Modern day ” Christians ” dont even know what Christianity was all about.
Chris Sanchez
August 31st, 2012
10:16 am
Jay,
Rolling out data from biased, liberal sources does not bolster your case on this. Bottom line: federal dollars come with strings attached. The last thing ANYONE in Georgia needs is more federal government in their lives.
Loretta Paraguassu
August 31st, 2012
10:17 am
There is also this very interesting thing about diseases that are untreated. They spread. Perhaps some wayward infection could reach Gov. Deal’s family and friends. Perhaps even Gov. Deal. There are even such things as epidemics. Never mind the facts and figures. We have such a cold-hearted, short-sighted governor it is not surprising that we end up on the bottom of the barrel for all the things that should be improved.
Frederick Douglass
August 31st, 2012
10:17 am
Redneck Convert @ 9:46
I have a sneaky suspicion that we won’t see a lot of the GOP faithful on these pages after Nov.6th.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 31st, 2012
10:18 am
If they will do block grants, no problem.
Yeah cause then the nuts around here can spend it on all sorts of crazy sh8t
LOL
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
10:19 am
Jay, you want stark reality: we’re broke.
Imagine how much less we’d be broke had Newell Rubbermaid, Kia, Catepillar, et. al. had to actually bring something to the table for the state of Georgia instead of us having to pay them for jobs? Hell, if that’s the GOP plan for increasing jobs in Georgia, then we’re gonna go broke trying to pay for jobs before we even think about healthcare.
I said Deal was a bad option for Georgia, and he’s doing his damnest to prove me right.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:19 am
I have a sneaky suspicion that we won’t see a lot of the GOP faithful on these pages after Nov.6th.
They’ll be here. Whining about how terrible their lives are under __________.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
10:19 am
Modern day ” Christians ” dont even know what Christianity was all about.
said the non-Christian
Road Scholar
August 31st, 2012
10:19 am
Deal also has nixed any healthcare exchanges where policy details from different PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANIES concerning their different coverages in their policies and the rates charged. Isn’t that encouraging the free market?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
10:19 am
The last thing ANYONE in Georgia needs is more federal government in their lives
I think that was the same chant the GOP made when they sent that delegation to Washington to get more money for deepening the Savannah port.
An observer
August 31st, 2012
10:20 am
Medicaid has serious problems already and we do not need to add to them. Governor Deal made the best decision for Georgia. Saying tat people will get treatment under Medicaid and then Medicaid not paying hospitals and doctors for that treatment is not a solution.
Health insurance is not such a wonderful thing. It costs way too much money for the benefit provided. It is hard to believe we should pay 10% of our income for health insurance ripoffs. Who has that kind of money to waste. Better that we save it for a rainy day when our car breaks, or we are out of a job.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
10:20 am
All that said, the poor need a good healthcare program
Just not Medicaid
The state should work up an alternative
Bibb County Reader
August 31st, 2012
10:20 am
Gov. Deal refused the “carrot on the stick” that is obamacare. In a couple of years the federal funds dry up and the state pays for obamacare. Then the same people who complained here about him doing this would be the loudest complaining about their higher taxes.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 31st, 2012
10:20 am
The last thing ANYONE in Georgia needs is more federal government in their lives.
Actually maybe a little more.
And a LOT less Religion and more education.
If you look up the states with the highest percentage of college graduates they all vote blue.
If you look up the states with the lowest percentage of college graduates they all vote red.
Coincidence
Hardly.
Simple Truths
August 31st, 2012
10:20 am
Redneck Convert @ 9:46,
Of course you won’t be on the blog after Nov 7. You’ll be too busy delivering champagne to one side and the hard stuff to the other side.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:21 am
Loretta Paraguassu
___________
That’s the GOP world view, esposed this week on national television. If people can’t afford it, they have to do without.
Small government, low taxes. Every person for himself.
rwcole
August 31st, 2012
10:21 am
Ennis, If you’re like me, you got that same letter last year. And the year before that and the year before that. Until we have real health care reform, I’m guessing I’ll get the same letter next year. But I’m not blaming the uninsured. I blame the dude making 9 figure bonuses for sending me that effing letter.
Stonethrower
August 31st, 2012
10:22 am
Didn’t Romney say the poor have a safety net? What’s the problem then?
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:23 am
The state should work up an alternative
What do you suggest. County health clinics. Nurses and doctors setting up to give back right after the Sunday sermon… what.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
10:23 am
BRO
Imagine how much less we’d be broke had Newell Rubbermaid, Kia, Catepillar, et. al. had to actually bring something to the table for the state of Georgia instead of us having to pay them for jobs?
Imagine all those jobs going to SC had they not…those companies employ a lot of tax payers…just sayin’…If those jobs had gone to SC it would have been called a failure of the Administration…pick your poison
King of Everything
August 31st, 2012
10:24 am
If Mittster wins in Nov, he would not repeal the ACA because it still is the Heritage Foundation’s ideas and it’s his only good achievement in MA. He will take credit for it the same way he did with the auto bailout, and the conservative lemmings will just follow him cheering!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
10:26 am
Danny X @ 9:59
Not even necessary. At all.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:26 am
Didn’t Romney say the poor have a safety net? What’s the problem then?
That is part of the problem according to the Republican gospel. They have a safety net and that net costs the wealthiest tax dollars that they cannot afford..
gadem
August 31st, 2012
10:27 am
I take solace in the fact that I DID NOT VOTE FOR DEAL. I am however disturbed that Republicans only love fetuses, but they hate the sick, the poor, babies, and old people.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:28 am
King of Everything
_+_________
Horrors: You are saying he is lying to us. Gazooks.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 31st, 2012
10:28 am
larry
August 31st, 2012
9:44 am
The party that had a convention that only pulled 1.3M viewers and lost to a reality T.V. show called Honey Boo Boo that pulled 3.1M viewers.
Maybe they should’ve had Honey Boo Boo up there talking to the chair.
.
.
.
That turns out not to be true….it did not include ALL the
stations that carried the coverage.
They did have more viewers than Honey Boo Boo.
Thanks heavens for even the small things….
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:28 am
Imagine all those jobs going to SC had they not…those companies employ a lot of tax payers…just sayin’…If those jobs had gone to SC it would have been called a failure of the Administration…pick your poison
And what’s the breakeven in years for Georgia taxpayers before the cost of bringing those jobs to Georgia is paid for?
larry
August 31st, 2012
10:29 am
Loretta Paraguassu
August 31st, 2012
10:17 am
That’s pretty sad. Wishing ill on someone’s family and friends or wishing ill on someone. I will disagree with what the Governor is doing. And i have my opinion on if he is corrupt or not. But i will not wish a disease on him nor his family.
Having two chronic diseases myself , they are not fun and i would not wish them on anyone.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:29 am
Got a question for ya Jay. How in the world did these hospitals make it before Obamacare came along?
Mighty Righty
August 31st, 2012
10:30 am
As usual, the liberal press in it’s disparate attempt to reverse the march of sanity coming to this years election, misleads, distorts and factually misrepresents anything Republican. Many states have opted out of medicaid because of real and threatened cuts to meidicaid by the Obama administration and the very real possiblility of all of the costs of the program being shifted to the tax payers of each state. Governor Deal is representing each of us by not going along with this non sense. Forbes magazine said: “states have a significant fiscal incentive to drop out of Obamacare’s expansion of the Medicaid program. States fear, among other things, that the federal government will shift more of the program’s costs to the states over time, leaving states with an unsustainable spending commitment. It turns out that this fear isn’t merely theoretical. During the “supercommittee” deficit-reduction talks last year, President Obama proposed reducing federal funding for the Medicaid expansion by $100 billion over ten years, with states picking up the difference. No wonder governors from both parties are thinking twice about the program.”
“It’s not free,” says Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R.). “You’re still paying it…they’re only going to cover [all of the Medicaid expansion] in the first three years. Then Florida taxpayers are going to be on the hook…Eventually we’ll be on the hook for 50, 45 percent of it”
godless heathen
August 31st, 2012
10:30 am
I have a sneaky suspicion that we won’t see a lot of the GOP faithful on these pages after Nov.6th.
And why not? If the O-man gets re-elected, there will be plenty to complain about.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:30 am
I take solace in the fact that I DID NOT VOTE FOR DEAL. I am however disturbed that Republicans only love fetuses, but they hate the sick, the poor, babies, and old people.
Same here.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:30 am
Stonethrower
________
The safety net has a lot of holes in it. And rips and tears and some of the posts that support it are rotten to the core. Needs work.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:30 am
The dem party is not only the party of handouts but the party of fear…. No way are your stats right Jay…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
10:30 am
Is “Honey Boo Boo” another name for Snowbillie Snooki Palin?
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
10:31 am
If those jobs had gone to SC it would have been called a failure of the Administration…pick your poison
If it were my decision, I would make it illegal for states to give tax breaks to companies like they currently do. Those large companies already enjoy tax breaks that the mom & pop operators can only dream of. Call me crazy or whatever, but if supply sided tax cuts are supposed to be stimulative, they shouldn’t be tossed like Mardi Gras beads to get jobs.
I think it’s sad that any state or city has to pay a company just to get them to locate somewhere. When you give a bully an inch, he’ll take a foot. When you give him that foot, he’ll take a yard. By the time he takes that yard, you are completely owned. Thanks to politicians, citizens have given up a thousand yards.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:32 am
Got a question for ya Jay. How in the world did these hospitals make it before Obamacare came along?
They pass on the cost to paying customers until they run out of paying customers to pass on the cost to.
larry
August 31st, 2012
10:32 am
Granny, did you know the chair had its own Twitter account.
I’m expecting its own facebook page any hour now.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:32 am
That’s caring and Presidential for Governor Romney to take a break from campaigning to check on the flood victims. Wherre’s Oblama playin golf today?
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
10:32 am
Choose party loyalty over It’s citizens? Boy, thank goodness no Dem has ever done that. I’m thinking right now of some Senators from moderate states who ( were bribed) to vote for Obamacare, something THEIR citizens were against. That’s just one that comes to mind. Maybe I’ll think of more.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
10:33 am
TP – And what’s the breakeven in years for Georgia taxpayers before the cost of bringing those jobs to Georgia is paid for?
how the heck would I know?…Did I say I supported it?
I merely point out the catch-22 of bringing jobs to any region….pick your poison
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:33 am
The dem party is not only the party of handouts but the party of fear…. No way are your stats right Jay…
Feel free to provide your own version of reality… with linkee.
Ben
August 31st, 2012
10:33 am
I think experience tells us that when they government predicts something will cost X dollars, it’s going to cost at least 3X dollars by the end.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
10:34 am
Wow, Romney is doing a fly-over to wave to the flood victims? Will Bush be on the plane too?
Jm
August 31st, 2012
10:34 am
DPOG re Reed for guv
I like reed
But it won’t happen in a million years
Georgia on my mind...
August 31st, 2012
10:34 am
Governor Nathan Deal’s Legislative Timeline WAR on the Middle Class
1. Change the guidelines for the college HOPE Scholarship.
2. Drastically reduce the amount of funds contributed to local governments for education
3. Place referendum on the November ballot to give his office more control over local school boards. (Wants to create more Charter Schools)
4. Refuse to expand Medicare amongst the poor and unemployed/under employed.
EJ Moosa
August 31st, 2012
10:35 am
“Bernanke dwelled on stagnation in the labor market, describing high unemployment as a “grave concern not only because of the enormous suffering and waste of human talent it entails, but also because persistently high levels of unemployment will wreak structural damage on our economy that could last for years.” Moreover, he said, “it is important to achieve further progress, particularly in the labor market.” ”
You know if we had REAL job creation, much of what you blog about would be a non-issue.
I told you about the problems we were going to be having headed into this election. You dismissed it.
Are you willing to finally acknowledge that the job market is a “grave concern”? Or must you wait until Obama is out of office to address this issue?
FrankLeeDarling
August 31st, 2012
10:35 am
Don’t forget the million dollar soap box derby track
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:35 am
Ben:
Obamacare comes to mind….
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:36 am
I merely point out the catch-22 of bringing jobs to any region….pick your poison
There’s no catch-22. We lose by accepting the corporation’s willingness to play off states against each other or we lose those particular jobs by not accepting. The money would be better spent on the healthcare. It funds jobs AND takes care of the sick that cannot afford care. A win-win for Georgia.
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
10:36 am
” Many rural folks, and others as well, will vote against their best interests if a candidate just says those 4 things”
That is important to them. What is important to you, socialism? Communism? Where did the communists in this country go? It was not the conservative side of the house. Just a reminder there has NEVER been a successful communist regime.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
10:37 am
Maybe Georgia should give Romneycare a chance!
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:37 am
Seems strange Hillary just happens to be on an Asian tour during the DNC. Lol.. I thought she was supposed to be well liked.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
August 31st, 2012
10:37 am
“Wow, Romney is doing a fly-over to wave to the flood victims? Will Bush be on the plane too?”
**********************
For 5 million dollars, he will land the plane and give you a Mitt 2012 towell.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:38 am
Found out Oblama is going to El Paso to play golf while flood victims suffer….
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 31st, 2012
10:38 am
Will these changes effect the ethic violations that are occurring in Gwinnett County at this time…the ones that are still under investigation??
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:39 am
DannyX:
It’s not what the folks want. If it was popular we sure would….
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
10:40 am
Hillary is nobody’s fool That convention will be full of lies and hate…….She doesn’t want that Stench on her for future campaigns. And she doesn’t want to have to say things about him she doesn’t believe.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:40 am
Don’t forget the million dollar soap box derby track
________
In the winter we can install snow machines and use it as a ski slope.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:41 am
One huge difference between Romney and Oblama. Romney don’t shudder. Oblama can’t say a complete sentence without doing it. Wonder if it’s written on the Teleprompter like that?
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
10:41 am
“It’s not what the folks want.”
They don’t want Mitt’s crowning achievement? What about Romneycare’s $25 abortions?
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
10:42 am
To all liberals:
Ignorance can be educated!
Crazy can be medicated!
But there is no cure for STUPID!
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:42 am
Reagans ghost
I think Hillary is out of politics for a while. Don’t see her in any future presidential campaigns at all.
May try to go back to the house or senate someday.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
10:42 am
Seems like the President’s team has been doing a great deal in response to Isaac. http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/08/30/tracking-response-isaac
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
10:44 am
ReagansGhost
USMC peddled that same tripe last night. You are a fool think that whether Obama wins or loses that there is much political gain from the right by saying Hillary was at the 2012 convention.
That is just asinine and stupid to even imply that
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
10:44 am
I’ve been told by sources that when the Dem Convention ends that night, they are dropping condoms rather than balloons… Can anyone confirm?
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 31st, 2012
10:44 am
One of the best school districts in the local area (Gwinnett) does not want Governor Deal’s referendum!!
http://www.peachpundit.com/2012/08/23/governor-deal-vs-the-gwinnett-chamber-of-commerce/
Lorman123
August 31st, 2012
10:44 am
Assuming Mitt Romney is elected and the ACA is gotten rid of, which he claims he intends to do, what becomes of the some the more popular features of the bill, such as coverage for pre-existing conditions and coverage for children on private insurance plans until age 26? If and when these so-called block grants are rolled out to the states as opposed to the Feds administering Medicare, who determines stateside who’s able to partake in the grant because we all know this block grant will not even cover existing Medicare recipients.
larry
August 31st, 2012
10:45 am
Ignorance can be educated!
Crazy can be medicated!
But there is no cure for STUPID!
After last night , Im not so sure about those first two.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 31st, 2012
10:45 am
Reagans Ghost where was George W. Bush during the RNC? Iraq maybe?
Heika
August 31st, 2012
10:45 am
I’m not reading any of the comments because I know what an utter craphouse you people probably built in response to Bookman. I used CommentBlocker to filter you all out so that I can read more sensible commentary on CreativeLoafing and SomethingAwful. Just thought I’d let you know.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
10:45 am
But there is no cure for STUPID
Well thanks for that reminder on behalf of all libs and independents…. since there is no cure, do you have any suggestion what we do about Deal and the other republican leaders and their party. Is there a ribbon we should wear to find a cure?
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
10:45 am
“I’ve been told by sources that when the Dem Convention ends that night, they are dropping condoms rather than balloons”
I believe that is true. Much more affective than last nights aspirin drop.
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
August 31st, 2012
10:47 am
Block grant is GOP code for we want a blank check from the feds to use however we see fit. Including using block grant money for general purpose expenses and not medical care.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
10:47 am
Aspirin? I thought they were dropping anvils, Wile E. Coyote style. All them little umbrellas were cute.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
10:48 am
“Much more affective than last nights aspirin drop.”
The aspirin should have been dropped after Eastwood’s speech.
Oscar
August 31st, 2012
10:49 am
Lorman123
_______
When Romney says he will exempt all states from the act, who knows what that means. It may mean just the medicare part.
Don’t see how the pre-existing provisions clauses and age 26 parts could be repealed other than by congress repealing the law.
Romney has been pretty vague on what he will do and what it will mean.
Ain't it Funny
August 31st, 2012
10:49 am
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:37 am
Seems strange Hillary just happens to be on an Asian tour during the DNC. Lol.. I thought she was supposed to be well liked.
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So, do you find it strange that Bush, Cheney, Palin, etc was nowhere to be seen in Tampa? Or does that just work one way? I thought Palin was supposed to be well liked?
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:49 am
To all liberals:
Ignorance can be educated!
Crazy can be medicated!
But there is no cure for STUPID!
That’s no excuse not to at least try to help Republicans.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
10:50 am
Ignorance can be educated!
And there is always the exception to the rule, and I accept your acknowedgment as that exception. See, you can call out some of these posters for crap that you can’t back up. I am not one of them. You spouted bs downstairs in my direction, and I called your bluff. Your inability to back up your bs is an open acknowledgement that you don’t have a friggin’ clue about anything you spout here.
Thomas Heyward Jr
August 31st, 2012
10:50 am
Staying away from State-influenced doctors in the pursuit of health will probably be as successful as staying away from State-influenced educators in the pursuit of knowlege.
Extremely successful.
.
The only thing that Deal has done right.
“Washington………Get thee behind me?”
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:51 am
Dems should really think about their convention. Oblama, Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Sandra Flunk, Nancy Pelosi, Harriot Reid.
That’s a stark difference from Romney, Ryan, Condi Rice, Marco Rubio, Suzanna Martinez, Mia Love, Aurter Davis.
No wonder dems are howling at the moon…
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
10:51 am
There’s no catch-22. We lose by accepting the corporation’s willingness to play off states against each other or we lose those particular jobs by not accepting. The money would be better spent on the healthcare. It funds jobs AND takes care of the sick that cannot afford care. A win-win for Georgia.
or we can deal with the reality of the situation…
larry
August 31st, 2012
10:52 am
HEADLINE: Sarah Palin’s contract may not get renewed at Fox.
Ut oh, that divorce is going to be messy.
I guess she’s lost her appeal .
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
10:53 am
“I like reed
But it won’t happen in a million years”
You mean Lindsey Graham was not speaking about GA when he said we no longer have enough angry white guys?
j/k
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
10:53 am
Lorman, I’m glad you ask that. As a conservative, there are parts of Obamacare that would be popular with anyone. The TWO biggest lies in the plan for most folks are
1. You can keep your same Doctor. Big lie.
2. Your rates will go down. Big lie
3. Well three. The total cost. CBO say’s it’s not even close, even giving back the 700+ billion from medicare.
We need reform, competition,and fraud cleaned up.
Do you know that All State and State Farm have dropped their Auto rates almost 40% since Progressive and Geico came on the scene. I wonder why? I guess they were just tired of making all that money.
Georgia on my mind...
August 31st, 2012
10:54 am
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:51 am
Aurter Davis.
You all own that one now!! Remember he got an old fashion beat down in the Bama and ran away to the Repub party!!
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
10:54 am
Joseph
With all your daily crying, whining and moaning, tell us how that is translating on the EC level as of today.
Thanks
larry
August 31st, 2012
10:54 am
That’s a stark difference from Romney, Ryan, Condi Rice, Marco Rubio, Suzanna Martinez, Mia Love, Aurter Davis.
You forgot one. Clint and his chair.
Im pretty sure the Democrats are not going to have a 82 year-old actor arguing with a chair.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
10:54 am
“I guess she’s lost her appeal”
Expect to see Palin in next season’s Celebrity Apprentice.
godless heathen
August 31st, 2012
10:55 am
what becomes of the some the more popular features of the bill, such as coverage for pre-existing conditions and coverage for children on private insurance plans until age 26?
25 year old children? They can get their own damn insurance.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 31st, 2012
10:55 am
We don’t need Nathan Deal’s crazy ideas to mess up the good schools we have in Gwinnett!!
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
10:55 am
Well, Obama tried to build a business with government money (taxpayers money) and it failed. Obama tried again with shovel ready jobs and it failed. He did create some government jobs with high pay and benefits to supress small businesses. I will give him credit for that.
Thomas
August 31st, 2012
10:56 am
Bernake calls unemployment level a “grave concern”- a grave concern, yes a grave concern.
We need him on that wall- I mean printing press. Keep the mice going for 60 days and were cool.
Good work and good reading about a local story Mr. Bookman. Here is to the young men who stayed at PSU- what a travesty- I think we should all wish them much success this fall on the field.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
10:56 am
or we can deal with the reality of the situation…
That Republicans just don’t care about anything other than their Randized selves. There’s no Dealing with that. I voted against Deal and the Republicans last time and I will do it again.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
10:57 am
Expect to see Palin in next season’s Celebrity Apprentice.
I’m betting on “Real Housewives of the Tundra”
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
10:58 am
I’ll man enough to admit this. Two biggest mistakes in 2008….1. John McCain..2 Sarah Palin. But in all honesty, don’t know if Regan could of beat Obama. It was a perfect storm.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
10:58 am
Aint’t it Funny:
Plain is campaigning for candidates and was a pundit on many occasions. Bush and his daddy had a touching video tribute. Cheney can’t fly he just got a new heart twit.
Will Carter be at the DNC? I just don’t understand someone who is supposed to a major part of the Oblama administration won’t be there.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
10:58 am
That Republicans just don’t care about anything other than their Randized selves. There’s no Dealing with that. I voted against Deal and the Republicans last time and I will do it again.
and you can continue to pretend that it makes a difference
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
10:59 am
godless heathen
August 31st, 2012
10:55 am
It is typical of a liberal to pick and choose phrases and take them out of context. However, Mitt did say he would end Obama care and revisit some portions of it. You can get his speech online. Why dont you go read it and dont listen to the drive-bys for your information.
alittlecommonsense
August 31st, 2012
10:59 am
If a Republican governor sucks off the federal teat, Jay will call him a hypocrite. I believe he criticized Romney for that just a couple of days ago. If he doesn’t suck off the federal teat, Jay will say he is doing the wrong thing for his constituents. How do you win with Jay? Have a D behind your name. Otherwise you are wrong no matter what decision you make.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
10:59 am
Taxpayer 10:23
I would call it the carrot and sticks program
You get free healthcare
But, here’s what you have to do and what it covers or doesn’t
It covers
Preventive medicine
The young more fully than the old
Physical injuries
It wouldn’t cover
Preventable diseases which you failed to get preventable treatment for or assist in preventing
The requirement
You have to spend 45 minutes in a gym 5 days a week and clock three miles on the treadmill at least
Your food consumption grocery purchases through food stamps will be monitored and restricted: you get veggies and meat, that’s it
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:00 am
and you can continue to pretend that it makes a difference
Our constitutional rights do make a difference.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
11:00 am
Larry:
Yeah the dems will probably trot out a hideous slug like Dan Savage…..
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:01 am
Joseph
Problem is that you don’t understand a lot of things (you demonstrate that via your posts and previous suspensions from blogs), so why be concerned about Hillary?
Jack
August 31st, 2012
11:01 am
Health insurance is available to everyone. I’m not supposed to help pay premiums to cover illnesses caused by bad eating habits and bad hygiene. I see consumers spending $4.00 on gasoline and then $10.00 on lotto along with buying enough sweets to kill a horse. Self-caused diabetes and liver disease, single welfare mothers and drug addition are the causes for the medicaid short-fall. Obama wants to rob seniors’ medicare in order to fund the healthcare of ineffective, promiscuous parasites who spend a lifetime trying to game the system. So, vote for Obama; vote for a handout.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:02 am
Did we figure out who was in that chair in clint’s mind yet?
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
11:03 am
Where is Obama golfing this weekend? He had the whole week off due to the convention. Has he visited New Orleans yet?
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:03 am
Jm,
Obesity, a lack of exercise and poor affordable food options are serious issues. A good wellness program is key to minimizing health problems in future years. It’s just one of the things wrong with our current system of healthcare.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
11:04 am
Tbs 10:53
no shortage in GA….
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
11:05 am
They BOTH @ 11:01
I posted another challenge to one of the conservazombie posters here downstairs. You know what the answer was, right?
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:05 am
Yeah the dems will probably trot out a hideous slug like Dan Savage…..
But i dont think he will argue with a chair.
What if that chair had talked back ?
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:06 am
Jm
That one was too easy. I can only give myself a single. No extra bases due to lack of originality.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:06 am
Our constitutional rights do make a difference.
who said anything about constitutional rights? Why do you continue to change the topic of the conversation?
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
11:07 am
Jack
August 31st, 2012
11:01 am
I like it!
Jm
August 31st, 2012
11:07 am
Taxpayer agreed
That’s why I’m ok with free healthcare for the poor as long as it has the right combination of carrots and sticks
Most Medicaid money is spent (actually almost exclusively) on diabetes which costs a fortune. And is preventable (generally).
I would no longer cover diabetes for future beneficiaries, but you would get a gym membership and be required to use it to get healthcare and food stamps
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:09 am
who said anything about constitutional rights? Why do you continue to change the topic of the conversation?
I changed no topic. You claimed my vote would make no difference. I claim the constitution says otherwise.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:10 am
Jm
All seriuoness. I think Reed is ok, but in my opinion see the Mayors of San Antonio and Newark making a bigger splash on the state of national level than Reed.
And that is even with Booker getting chastised by DNC or whomever several months back
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:11 am
So, the highlight of the gop convention was an actor talking to an empty chair.
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:12 am
Not a big suprise here, but most of the charter schools support come from out of state.
http://onlineathens.com/breaking-news/2012-08-31/out-state-donors-funding-charter-school-push
Willydoit?
August 31st, 2012
11:12 am
Bookman’s doom and gloom of anything Republican strikes again!
Georgia will be just fine!!
Maybe all the uninsured will move to the states that is participating in the expansion of Medicaid coverage, then the hospitals and doctors here in Georgia won’t have to write off all the deadbeats that don’t pay.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
11:13 am
“So, the highlight of the gop convention was an actor talking to an empty chair.”
Reminds me of the last days of the Reagan Presidency.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:14 am
I would no longer cover diabetes for future beneficiaries, but you would get a gym membership and be required to use it to get healthcare and food stamps
we can then limit their time as a car occupant, a bus occupant, and require everyone to wear rubber sole shoes, and outlaw stairs too
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:14 am
“Reminds me of the last days of the Reagan Presidency”
I set it up and you knocked it out of the park..
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:15 am
So, the highlight of the gop convention was an actor talking to an empty chair.”
He wasnt simply talking to it, he was ARGUING with it.
What if that chair would have argued back?
Jm
August 31st, 2012
11:15 am
Tbs
I think Reed probably has a future in DC, but probably not as a politician
The ATL mayorship is generally a dead end track unless John Lewis up and quits (doubtful)
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:16 am
Bro
It never crossed my mind in 2004 which of Bush’s cabinet members were going to be at the convention or not be.
It is just plain ass stupid of those bringing it up because they heard it on talk radio, Fox or read it somewhere.
It means absolutely nothing.
If Hillary runs for President, she will surely not be able to run from the Obama Administration as fast as the Republicans are still running from Bush. Saying she wasn’t at a convention, when all one as to say is that she was the Sec. of St makes no sense.
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:17 am
Enter your comments here
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
11:17 am
“So, the highlight of the gop convention was an actor talking to an empty chair’
Did you see it or just listened to a drive-by who spewed it out and took off.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:17 am
Jm,
Also, I would really love to be able to purchase an affordable catastrophic health insurance policy along with a wellness/managed care rider of sorts whose cost varied primarily as a function of such variables as one’s smoking history, Body Mass Index, etc.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
11:18 am
Just because Hillary will not be physically at the DNC does not mean she may not make an “appearance” at some point… but really, this is all just more silliness from the conned.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:20 am
I changed no topic. You claimed my vote would make no difference. I claim the constitution says otherwise.
No I said your vote against Deal has made no difference, and your future vote against an R Governor will make no difference in GA….you can choose to deal in reality or complain about it either way the situation/reality is the same
Jm
August 31st, 2012
11:20 am
Eastwood’s performance was bad only to those who love stagecraft and are addicted to low attention span TV and twitter
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:20 am
Hillary is retiring but good to see the cons want her so bad.
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
11:20 am
I turned the channel to CNN last night after the Romney speech and O M G! You would have thought Ben Stein was the speaker. I hope CNN fails, I really do.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:21 am
WillieB
Rush just called me and said to tell Willie to quit stealing his “driveby” line.
He said he appreciated that you are a loyal groupie and part of his “flock”, but would like you to come up with at least one original line. He is getting ticked that all you can do is mimic him and his talking points as if you were a macaw.
Not looking so good when he touts his audience as being smart.
And he said have a good weekend
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:21 am
If you see someone talking or arguing with a chair today, don’t fret.
They are just ” Eastwooding” .
Sad, just sad. Its taken a life of its own.
The chair has its own Twitter account.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
11:21 am
The dem party is not only the party of handouts but the party of fear…
Yep, which is why virtually all of us frightened, parasitic Jews vote OVERWHELMINGLY against Republicans…
You figure it out and explain it to me, OK?
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:23 am
wiilie.
cnn took a dive for the gop and did fail.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:24 am
No I said your vote against Deal has made no difference, and your future vote against an R Governor will make no difference in GA….you can choose to deal in reality or complain about it either way the situation/reality is the same
And I continue to tell you that my vote does make a difference. That’s a constitutional reality. Further, I’m not complaining about my vote so long as I still get to cast it for the persons of my choice.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
11:25 am
Of course former SOS Condi Rice said earlier this week that it is tradition for the current secretary of State to skip political conventions.
What else do you guys got? This one is another dud.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
11:26 am
They BOTH
It means absolutely nothing.
You know that post strays too far from the message!!!! Don’t make Eddie Murphy’s daddy sing his song for you, “Nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’!!”
If Hillary runs for President, she will surely not be able to run from the Obama Administration as fast as the Republicans are still running from Bush.
Hell, Capt. Kirk couldn’t get the Starship Enterprise to move that fast either!!
btw… Check out my latest challenge when you get a chance.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/31/romney-did-just-fine-but-a-game-changer-no/?cp=all#comment-1057459
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:26 am
I am sure SNL will do the chair skit.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:27 am
And I continue to tell you that my vote does make a difference.
okay…how has your vote against Deal made an difference in GA or it’s/his policies…
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:28 am
And I continue to tell you that my vote does make a difference. That’s a constitutional reality.Further, I’m not complaining about my vote so long as I still get to cast it for the persons of my choice
Watch it , TP or else they will do something else to prevent you from voting.
Like doing somersalts before you cast you’re ballot.
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:29 am
That’s your not you’re .
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
11:30 am
As to Hillery, i think she has a bigger job to do other than be pom pom girl for the president. Between the Cook and Spratley islands and China…she has a handful and she needs to be out there. Anyone paying attention to the South China Sea tensions between Japan, the P. I., China and the U. S. A. would know this.
China has warned us recently to stay out of their affairs in the area. That’s funny. I remember in the Navy, we used to practice exercises on the supposition that China and we would get into it over those islands…
But…some here will say anything to try to make the Democrats look bad, even if they don’t know what they are talking about and end up looking ignorant themselves…go figure.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:30 am
okay…how has your vote against Deal made an difference in GA or it’s/his policies…
It was one less vote for him and it was my vote. Now, if you were to ask what difference a person that chooses not to vote makes, then that would be a different story. The person that chooses not to vote relinquishes his constitutional right to make a difference.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:31 am
Bro
Let me guess. You placed the ball on the tee for Willie and he did one of two things; he walked directly back to the dugout and made no attempt to swing or he struck out then walked back to the dugout.
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:31 am
So voting one way or another doesnt make a difference ………. Okay, explain this.
A recount confirms Debbie Whitlock as the winner in the Stephens County Commission Post 2 Republican run-off, but only by a single vote.
Whitlock won the recount for the Stephens County Commission Post 2 race by one vote Thursday evening over Ray Willis.
The final count was 1,508 for Whitlock and 1,507 for Willis. That one-vote margin is one vote narrower than the two votes that separated the candidates in the results from Election Night.
Whitlock lost one vote in the mail-in absentee ballot count, going from 97 to 96. Her other vote totals remained the same.
Willis’ vote total remained the same across all categories and precincts.
Willis said Thursday evening he was still considering his options moving forward.
According to Stephens County Registrar Theresa Kelley, any further challenge to the election results would have to be made in Superior Court in Stephens County.
There is no Democratic or Independent opposition on the November ballot for the Post 2 race.
The recount took more than an hour as both candidates and representatives for both candidates were on hand to watch the recount. During the recount, Kelley and the Board of Elections first re-counted mail-in absentee ballots, than re-counted ballots cast electronically on machines, all following the same process that is done on Election Night itself.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
11:32 am
They BOTH sux:
I have never and will be suspended from any blog. Bookman just ain’t that smart…..
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:32 am
I’d edit to:
The person that chooses not to vote relinquishes his constitutional right to try and make a difference.
beam me up
August 31st, 2012
11:34 am
The cynical part of me almost wishes that Romney would win just so the Repuplicans can be given full credit for the wreckage their policies create. However, they have fielded the most unlikeable candidate since…Michael Dukakis? (Note for political parties: Massachussets governors, not all they’re cracked up to be). If the polls done this weekend don’t hand Romney the electoral college, fuggitaboutit.
On topic, the only possible reason for the Deal deal is pure politics. This is expected to be a base election. So, it’s all about getting the base fired up. Sad that Georgians will have to suffer because Deal is choosing to play into the national party narrative.
While Georgia should be a comfortable win for Romney, some polls showed his lead slipping back to the margin of error in recent weeks. Have to remember that in 2008, Georgia almost elected a Democratic senator in what was supposed to be a walk-away for the Republicans. I guess this is a play-to-the-base while they’re tuned in kind of move.
Given the demographic changes in the country, this is probably the last presidential election where the Republican coalition as it has been constituted for the last thirty plus years will stand a chance of winning. In general, the population is becoming, more diverse, more educated, more secular, and more urban, and the pre-Baby Boom generation is dying off.
Can the party of Jan Brewer become the party of Latinos? Seems like a stretch.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
11:34 am
Like doing somersalts before you cast you’re ballot.
I know. They might even start requiring that we do the gymnastics while tryng to hit the little touch screen in the right spot.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:34 am
So voting one way or another doesnt make a difference
that’s not what I said
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:34 am
Maybe Hillary will appear at the DNC convention.
And I’m sure she will bring a chair.
And she will not argue with it or talk to it either.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
11:35 am
I’m wondering if Code Pink will have a more prominate platform at the DNC. I hear Medina is going right after Oblama’s brother.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:35 am
“I have never and will be suspended from any blog. ”
You must be saying that it just hasn’t occurred yet or you are an attention seeker and use some IT trick to reinvent yourself via another IP address.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
11:38 am
They BOTH
He stripped the uniform off before the trek back to the dugout.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
11:39 am
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:35 am
Unfortunately there are some people out there who crave attention, even negative attention. They are at best, to be ignored, and at least, pitied. They bring nothing to the table and any response just enables them. key phrase here…to ignore.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:41 am
Bro
Problem tried to pull a Bo Jackson and break the bat and ended up with a fractured femur………
hahahahah
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:41 am
I aplogize about harping on the chair.
But i hate to see a great actor being belitted so badly. I just wonder how he was talked into such a stunt. They have to be kicking themselves because this just went viral while Romney’s speech is getting just a whisper.
I knew Clint was a conservative. Why couldnt he just made a speech, endorsing Romney and gone off the stage. And know , he’s gonna be remembered for this. Its just sad.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
11:42 am
Normal
I usually do and should do it more often, but sometimes I just love cheap humor at the expense of those type of bloggers……..
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:44 am
that should be now , not know.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:44 am
larry @11:41
agreed
getalife
August 31st, 2012
11:45 am
The best part was when the chair told robme to go f himself.
Classic comedy.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
11:45 am
They BOTH
barking frog
August 31st, 2012
11:47 am
Elect crappy governors,
Expect crappy governance.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
11:47 am
What the heck are you talking about Jay? Those 650K will have health insurance since it is required by Obamacare that they purchase a policy or pay a fine.
curious
August 31st, 2012
11:49 am
Better medical care availability and education for all would help us lure new industry into Georgia. As a long term strategy, the method of wholesale cost cutting and minimizing investment will be a guarantee of us being a 3rd world state.
Hold your breath to reduce CO2 emissions; soon you’ll realize it’s a no-win plan.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
11:49 am
What the heck are you talking about Jay? Those 650K will have health insurance since it is required by Obamacare that they purchase a policy or pay a
finetax.paulo977
August 31st, 2012
11:49 am
Pete….It doesn;t matter how big of a hypocrite or crook he is, those 4 things over-ride everything else.
_________________________________________________
We are still a long way off from the understanding and knowledge that folks in many many other countries have!!! Gawd, it is pathetic!!
barking frog
August 31st, 2012
11:51 am
Paying the penalty under
Obamacare does not get
you health insurance.
marie
August 31st, 2012
11:51 am
I just wish that the people who would elect the leader of the free world based on whether or not he believes in abortion (which I do not believe in either) could understand the Republican party says what they think the people want to hear regardless of whether they actually believe in it or not could understand that Romney doesn’t care about the poor, the old, the young who are struggling to make ends meet, but only of furthering his wealthy friends, the professionals, and in his case, other Mormons. He scares me to death.
RAMZAD
August 31st, 2012
11:54 am
Deal is a hack.
Disbanding the ethics bureau. Stuffing the Port Authorities with cronies like Ken Cronan. Of course, he ran away from Congress like a frightened mongoose to come down here to run for Governor, and Right Wing fanatics believed it was just fine. Georgia is another Mississippi in the making…
Oh, wait, I went to Tupelo a few months ago, and I found out that Mississippi has an edge
on Georgia, which is quickly becoming the new anus of the United States.
Joseph
August 31st, 2012
11:54 am
larry:
You guys can have your Clooneys, Aflecks, and other Hollyweird homosexauls…
We’ll keep real men like Eastwood, Arnold, and Willis….
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
11:57 am
He scares me to death.
Don’t be a Republican, be brave. The Republicans or Fright Wing Party are the ones so scared of everything.
barking frog
August 31st, 2012
11:57 am
The Federal government
should cut the states out
of Medicaid and pay the
Post Office to administer
the program.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
12:02 pm
Joseph
If you are gay and are repressing your feelings, we all hope that works out for you.
In the mean time no need to demean people that are gay or make disparaging remarks about them.
Heck the Log Cabin Republicans (GAY organization) would not be proud of your bigotry.
Real Scootter
August 31st, 2012
12:04 pm
We’ll keep real men like Eastwood, Arnold, and Willis….
You forgot Norris…..
Michael
August 31st, 2012
12:05 pm
As to Clint, I didn’t see all of his performance. But, between the two of them it looked like the chair knew its lines better. Also, Clint should know that an actor should never get on stage with a prop that can upstage you.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
Taxpayer 11:17
I think the cat coverage is available
Not with the variables you also mention though
But I agree
Although I don’t think those would be helpful to the poor, it would help the rest of us
SwamiDave
August 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
Jay
“That will have significant economic-development implications for Georgia beyond the immediate loss of federal dollars. The availability of modern health -care facilities is a prime consideration for any business or industry looking to relocate. As rural hospitals close and doctors leave, employers will leave as well, taking with them the last hope of prosperity for many small communities.”
With all due respect, the “last hope for prosperity” is not federal dollars. It is economic growth and opportunity.
In the end, Deal likely hinged his political future to Romney with this action.
-SD
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
“You guys can have your Clooneys, Aflecks, and other Hollyweird homosexauls…
We’ll keep real men like Eastwood, Arnold, and Willis….”
Ironically, Eastwood, Arnold and Willis all support gay marriage.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:08 pm
“or he could choose to be loyal to some 650,000 of his fellow Georgians in need of health insurance.”
I see. So loyalty means forcibly taking money from one group of people to give more free shyte to another group of people. Got it.
“When you deny health -care coverage to hundreds of thousands of people, as Deal has decided to do, those outcomes are inevitable.”
So is Deal telling these people right now that they are not allowed to go to a Doctor or a hospital? And if so then are you telling me that for years and years that 650,000 Georgians have been denied healthcare because they weren’t given Medicaid?
“There will be other consequences as well. The decision blocks an influx of billions and billions of federal health -care dollars — an estimated $14.5 billion between 2014 and 2019 alone — that would provoke significant job growth.”
Really? Transfer programs promote “significant” job growth. Well allrighty then. Let’s put everyone on Medicaid and watch the Georgia economy go BOOM.
“Medicaid expansion would have been a lifesaver to those hospitals and to the doctors who practice there, but that lifesaver has now been yanked away.”
You sure about that Jay? Getting paid in the case of hospitals by Medicaid is better than nothing but in the case of Doctors most doctors say that treating Medicaid patients actually costs them money. The reimbursement rate does not adequately compensate them for treating the patient. Is it any wonder that so many Docs do not take Medicaid?
“Turning that money away will also raise the risk of closure by rural hospitals, which are already struggling under the financial burden of providing so much care to the uninsured.”
You can also help those rural hospitals and docs via tort reform. Jackpot justice in some rural counties has driven obstetricians out of business throughout the south.
“The decision blocks an influx of billions and billions of federal health -care dollars”
Jesus H. Christ. Typical liberal. You act like this is all free money. Good God sir. Don’t you realize that we all have to pay this money back? Don’t you know that?
“However, as Tim Sweeney of the Georgia Budget and Policy Institute points out, even the governor’s figure of $4.5 billion “would represent only a 1.9 percent increase in total state spending.”
History lesson sir. Go back and look at what the govt initially said Medicare and Medicaid would cost. Then look at the astounding difference between the projected costs and the actual costs. When you do that you will realize that your argument has no credibility. None.
As it stands now Medicaid on average consumes 22% of state budgets. Now someone said the other day its up to an average of 30%. Not sure about that but I know its average the last time I looked it up was at 22%. And that is a staggering amount of money for one item.
“We can, however, afford hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new Falcons stadium, not to mention billions of dollars in tax breaks to businesses. Priorities, you know.”
I’ll agree with you on the Falcons stadium. But as usual your fallacious thinking on tax breaks to businesses needs to be addressed. First of all when you give a tax break you’re not actually giving money to anyone. You’re simply confiscating less money from them. Despite what liberals think when someone earns their money its their money first and foremost- not the gubments money.
Secondly, by giving these “tax breaks” these businesses employ people and the business and the paychecks of their employees pay sales taxes, state income taxes, local taxes, a lot of taxes that pay for you guessed it- Medicaid and other govt largesse.
Thirdly, many of these businesses pay enough that their employees can then go out and get their own insurance or the business has a generous group plan that pays for health insurance. That’s that many fewer unemployed people that will be on the Medicaid rolls.
USMC
August 31st, 2012
12:08 pm
The Leftwing Nut jobs at the State Department have “gone off the reservation”…oops!
State Department: ‘Hold down the fort,’ other common phrases could be offensive
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/30/state-department-hold-down-fort-other-common-phrases-could-be-offensive/#ixzz258kL4cxs
Dirty Harry! (Not intended for the easily offended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0uT3QKQ88g
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
12:08 pm
Joseph
You’re more than welcome to keep your people…
http://www.goproud.org
Ahem
August 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
To all of you all you rural redneck Republicans…
If it were not for rural folks, your snotty, snarky little butt would starve to death.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
Jm
August 31st, 2012
11:20 am
Eastwood’s performance was bad only to those who love stagecraft and are addicted to low attention span TV and twitter
++++++++++++++++++
No Eastwoods performance was bad to anyone with a brain. I bet you however loved it……….
barking frog
August 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
Jm
“I think the cat coverage is
available”
…….
cat health insurance?
getalife
August 31st, 2012
12:10 pm
Heck, one of the koch brothers supports gay marriage.
GT
August 31st, 2012
12:10 pm
This is the governor governing by his own life style as so many in his party do. Romney was going to show his heart, then it turns out he doesn’t have one. Now there is a serious organ crisis going on in the GOP, Deal’s brain is missing and Christy just reported he can’t find his feet.
I want to see one thing these Republicans do that is not designed for a very small group of people. It is easy to legislate law and regulation that has no negative effect on you or your cronies. Let’s go after gays, poor, minority and illegals. When you start dumping dead bodies at the door of hospitals, just like when you filled the jails up so far your couldn’t pay for them, you will then have to reverse your direction. You people never think of the next step, like a jealous lover, shoot now regret it later. And you wonder why people do not want a person unlike themselve running their government.
Ahem
August 31st, 2012
12:11 pm
larry
August 31st, 2012
11:34 am
Maybe Hillary will appear at the DNC convention.
And I’m sure she will bring a chair.…
Better be a damn strong chair for that load.
USMC
August 31st, 2012
12:12 pm
JAY BOOKMAN chooses party loyalty over Intellectual Honesty.
(ON A DAILY BASIS)
Mighty Righty
August 31st, 2012
12:13 pm
Regarding hurricane Isaac and all of the damage, destruction and flooding along the gulf coast, just where in the h–l is FEMA? Just more hot air without action from the present administration!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
“With all due respect, the “last hope for prosperity” is not federal dollars. It is economic growth and opportunity.”
Too much common sense there. But the message of federal tax dollars still resonates with libs. Despite the fact that its the gubment tantalizing them with their own money. And yet they still fall for it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
Mighty, whitehouse.gov has your answers…
You’re also welcome to try fema.gov.
Otherwise you are just blowing harder than Isaac has tried with a lot of hot air.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
There’s that good old Obook/bama logic: state spending means, (let me make sure I get his own words right) “a stronger state economy and better health care and longer lives for hundreds of thousands of Georgians”. Yes, there it is, folks, the sum total of Democrat philosophy; and if you care, socialist, communist, anti-American etc. It must be a wonder to these folks that American society existed and thrived before the “Great Society”.
It did you know, Mr. Bookman.
And government isn’t the answer to everything. The greatest crisis we face now isn’t what they think it is either. If the US goes the way of Obama, the way of budget-less knee-jerk wasteful spending–that is, the way of Greece and the soon-to-be plunging European economy–then how many billions of dollars we need or we need to save for healthcare won’t matter, because those billions will hardly buy what they can today. Not only can Democrats not address this grave problem (nor the economy, by the way), but they can not even acknowledge it, or at least they won’t until Romney takes office.
The answer to all of this isn’t government, indeed not. The answer is less of it.
For attempting to forego, as much as possible, the federal government’s coercion on healthcare Deal should be congratulated and applauded.
Let’s not forget either that Obamacare wasn’t so much a cost-bending program (the intent of cost-bending has failed utterly anyway), but it was a cost-shifting plan. Medicare, Obamacare, Medicaid, who knows what went where?
Obama sure doesn’t, nor does he care. Obamacare? That’s the recipe for, “unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death.” And single-payer healthcare is the prescription for the “death panel” politburo created by Obamacare.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
mr.
As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
12:19 pm
By the way, I understand that at Dragon Con, they will have internet access to the ajc, so you liberal Bookmanites can blog on the Bookman site.
Jay will be there too, dressed as Gandalf.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
12:22 pm
Doomy? Do you just argue everything Jay writes out of shear cussedness? Deal turning down the cash was stupid and pointless. A grandstanding gesture that will cost more in the long run but it’s not his money so he doesn’t care.
It would be like you refusing to take tax deductions out of “principal.” We, Georgians, are STILL going to pay that damn money, only;y thanks to Deal we get nothing for it. Although I’ll bet he or someone close to him stands to profit big time by him sticking it to us once again.
Frederick Douglass
August 31st, 2012
12:22 pm
This whole thing could be wrapped up in a neat little package, and Obama would be dealt a bonecrushing, debilitating blow if Romney released 10-12 years of tax returns about a month before the election. I’m just entirely flabbergasted that the Romney handlers passed on the opportunity to bring everything to an end in Tampa with a blockbuster revelation of his honesty, and patriotism by showing us how he made his money, thus giving us a glimpse of how he’d lead the country out of an obvious morass…..instead he gives us a washed up actor and a chair.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:23 pm
“To all of you all you rural redneck Republicans…”
Not this crap again. After all the palpable hate directed towards Romney and especially Clint Eastwood last night and early this morning you wonder if the libs have any hate left in the tank. Don’t worry. They do. I was looking at the hateful comments this morning and thinking “man, how do you wake up with so much hate that early in the morning”. And the hateful comments about Clint Eastwood having a mental disease. Despicable.
catlady
August 31st, 2012
12:23 pm
I am sure HE doesn’t have to worry much about HIS health care! He is taken care of–for life!
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
Regarding the Obama acceptance speech. That was a game-changer: “the moment that the oceans stopped rising and the planet healed.”
That will be a game-changer THIS YEAR.
USMC
August 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
“By the way, I understand that at Dragon Con, they will have internet access to the ajc, so you liberal Bookmanites can blog on the Bookman site.”
I always picture a Bookmanite convention as the group in the ‘Bar Scene’ from Star Wars.
Capitol Hack
August 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
I think Governor Deal has already been a better governor than many expected, and is certainly head and shoulders above the previous occupant of that office. But this is simply a very bad decision. I understand the economic pain that state government has endured and the tough choices that have to be made, but he seems to be basing his decision to deny health care to many struggling Georgians on the basis of faulty numbers and political gamesmanship. We hope and pray that he will reconsider. This is a cruel decision that will leave a legacy that no governor should wish to claim.
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
12:25 pm
cat coverage?
will it provide for an opposable thumbs operation?
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
12:26 pm
Do you just argue everything Jay writes out of shear cussedness?
Do you even have to ask?
LDH20
August 31st, 2012
12:27 pm
Gov Deal said that GA could not afford the expansion BUT it cannot avoid the expense by not expanding Medicare. People ARE going to get sick and ARE going to to ERs and GA IS going to pay for that. Deal did not help Ga at all here.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:27 pm
Larry@10:54 – Clint, at 82 yrs, could still whip your butt dude!
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
12:28 pm
instead he gives us a washed up actor and a chair
I’m guessin’ that’s the only part you watched then
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
12:28 pm
I think Governor Deal has already been a better governor than many expected
Yep. He sure took care of that major debt issue he had much faster than most expected. Also, when many expected nothing, then it’s not hard to better nothing.
Peter
August 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
Please the guy LIED to get elected….. really what do you believe for him today ?
ANYTHING ? Typical Republican attitude……. hate the small folks and help the RICH !
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
Bro – some people do nothing better than others
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:27 pm
Larry@10:54 – Clint, at 82 yrs, could still whip your butt dude!
++++++++++++++++
Oh here we are with Tom the internet tough guy again. He’ll hit you with his air force purse if you don’t watch out.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
Jay will be there too, dressed as Gandalf.
If I recall correctly, Jay is going out of town this weekend to visit an ill relative.
But, whetevs.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
Frederick,
Obama would be dealt a “debilitating blow” if Romney released his tax returns?
This must be the rhetorical over-exaggeration of the day.
Americans need to be far more concerned about how Obama’s spending OUR money than how Romney made his.
Besides, if you want, you can buy the book, The Real Romney, written by leftists also. They have some idea how he made his money, but you don’t care about that, do you?
The ineffectual Democrat campaign this year is not about what is, but what isn’t.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:30 pm
“Do you just argue everything Jay writes out of shear cussedness?”
Fred, and do you agree with everything he writes just out of sheer hate for the cons? Cause it sure looks that way much of the time.
“Deal turning down the cash was stupid and pointless.”
That’s your opinion and there isn’t much factual basis to it. First of all we have to pay a lot of those federal dollars. This notion that these “federal dollars” are free is mindnumbingly stupid. And even if those federal dollars were free money the cost to the state in future years is not.
All I ask you to do is one thing Fred. Go google the initial projected costs of Medicare and Medicaid and then compare it to the eventual ACTUAL costs. At that point you will then understand why it simply will not be affordable. Besides as RB pointed out Obamacare solved the uninsurance problem. People are now required to buy insurance or pay a fine/tax.
“A grandstanding gesture that will cost more in the long run but it’s not his money so he doesn’t care.”
Again. Look at history sir. Look at the historical projected vs actual costs of Medicaid. You will then understand that accepting the Medicaid provision will cost us more in the long run.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:31 pm
Ok I’ll admit it, Clint will not win any Academy Awards for last nite, but the DNC’s choices of PeeWee Herman or that Weiner guy from NY has got it’s own problems!
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
And government isn’t the answer to everything.
True, just breathable air, drinkable water, land not too poisoned to walk on, public schools from K/1st through 12th grades, including buses, fire fighters, police protection from street and white collar criminals, roads and highways and associated safety measures, consumer safety and rights, employee protections at the workplace, veterans care and services, assistance for women and children in poverty, television and radio broadcasting for the public good, jails and prisons, courts, and our laws, the judiciary, legislative and executive responsibilities, and so on.
You know, all of that stuff that you Republicans hate and want to destroy. As in drown in a bathtub…
Ewrin's cat
August 31st, 2012
12:33 pm
Kam…make the call, please…this topic has no legs
LDH20
August 31st, 2012
12:34 pm
JamVet Well said!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
12:34 pm
EC
If that ain’t the truth.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
12:34 pm
Sorry Kamchak,
I don’t live here like so many others.
God Bless Jay on his travels and his sick relative–and any of you going to Dragoncon.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
There’s that good old Obook/bama logic: state spending means, (let me make sure I get his own words right) “a stronger state economy and better health care and longer lives for hundreds of thousands of Georgians”
You were not imagining things. They actually believe this crap that gubment spending in the way of transfer payments means a stronger economy. Just like they believed that crap from nancy pelosi that a transfer payment such as food stamps promotes economic growth. You can’t make this stuff up. They actually believe that crap.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
So apparently, Dirty Harry really sh*t the bed.
Even, none of the cons are reporting – certainly in in any cogent, detailed or specific way – about what Flip and Eddie had to say.
(As if those two had anything cogent, detailed or specific to say!)
Williebkind
August 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
Jm
August 31st, 2012
11:20 am
Those commentators
TBone
August 31st, 2012
12:37 pm
If you haven’t figured out that our esteemed governor has selfish tendencies and uses his position for his own benefit, you are not a very good “journalist” and I use that term very loosely. He’s a political hack but he’s our hack. No news here.
gtt
August 31st, 2012
12:37 pm
I agree with you, Jay. Also, this new story commenting is absolutely horrific. The Fort Stewart murder trial comments are a sewer of bigotry.
USMC
August 31st, 2012
12:37 pm
MSNBC: The Obama administration is now pivoting to JO(BS), JO(BS), JO(BS)!
Clint Eastwood
August 31st, 2012
12:37 pm
There is so much BS in these comments. This country is broke and still borrowing money. I think it is in Obama’s plan to run this county into the ground. He may be a trojen horse. You should go see 2016 Obama’s America.
blahblahblah
August 31st, 2012
12:39 pm
If I say “I’ll give you a dollar but you have to spend $1.25″, and you don’t have a quarter handy, why WOULDN’T you tell me to take a hike?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:39 pm
Fred – Actually I am a tough guy at times, as most real men are. People that berate an 82 yr old man are wussies as far as I am concerned. Does that list include you?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
12:40 pm
Apparently the PA still has not learned the meaning of the word Hate….. even though he often expresses it in his posts himself.
Kam, what is this infatuation some have with DragonCon? …. sounds to me like they got a bad costume review when they attended. Heck, I have never attended but I used to work downtown when it was on and there were some unique and creative costumes. But I bet the same posters that deride it never attend a Halloween party or dress in some silly outfit to golf or attend a college football game. It’s just plain childish but typicall of the conned.
Trolls Bane
August 31st, 2012
12:41 pm
Why should this be a surprise? It is in line with Republican and Fundie ideology… which says, in a nutshell, poor people are to be blamed for their poverty …
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
12:41 pm
JamVet 12:32,
Yes, we can do without the hate–most especially your projection of it. We can also do without the straw-man arguments, pretending ad nauseam that I believe something I don’t, that I’m arguing something I’m not.
Your list doesn’t justify spending one trillion more than we take in, nor selling the future of our children to the Chinese, nor cutting the military, nor forcing religious to violate their consciences, nor funding the killing of the unborn, nor crony-capitalist “investments” in solar energy, etc., inflating the dollar… I could go on.
Tell me JamVet (if as I assume you are ex-military), did you fight a real enemy when you were in the service, or did you make one up and fight him?
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
12:42 pm
If there were ever a sports analogy/story that fit our current political system, this is it….
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/kent-state-lb-nearly-scores-own-team-runs-013528226–ncaaf.html
A player picks up a muffed punt only 7 yards from the goal line and a touchdown. He proceeds to return it in the opposite direction that would give his opponents 2 points and possession of the ball. What does the opposing team do? They tackle him before he can return the punt all the way back to the wrong endzone.
If that ain’t the two party system we have here, I don’t know what is. It doesn’t matter which party represents which team. They both suck!!! (No pun or offense intended TBS)
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
12:44 pm
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:39 pm
Fred – Actually I am a tough guy at times, as most real men are. People that berate an 82 yr old man are wussies as far as I am concerned. Does that list include you?
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As I told you yesterday tough boy when you were threatening Jamvet. I was in Gwinnett County yesterday and would be happy to meet you any time you want. I’m not afraid of internet tough boy’s. We can discuss anyone you want. Or you can come here, let me know, I’ll leave a light on tough boy.
Lions and tigers and bears oh my.
LOL yeah, I’m laughing AT you tough boy. And if you are 82 that only makes it better. Make sure you have a spare set of depends with you.
I’ll bet you have your wife and ALL the little girls in your trailer park scared of you………
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
12:44 pm
Tom,
I don’t know? Tough guy? A man who brings up pee wee’s and weiners can’t be all that tough…Typical Air Force, I guess…
P.S.:
Sorry jam
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
People that berate an 82 yr old man are wussies as far as I am concerned.
But people who berate a young woman like Sandra Fluke are brave and honorable?
Despite the drama queen reactions (including the usually drama queen reaction from the queen PA), I have seen no one berating Eastwood personally. They are critiquing his bizzare presentation. But would it make you feel better if we just called him names about being promicuous or something similar.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred “It would be like you refusing to take tax deductions out of “principal.”
Isn’t that exactly what you tools whining about Romney’s 13% tax rate are expecting? Blaming him for only paying 13% as if it was him who wrote the tax code. Let me tell you all something liberals, Obama paid the exact same tax rate Romney did on the same classifications of income and this BS about Obama or somebody’s secretary paying more in taxes is a LIE. If you’re too stupid to get that, you are exactly the person the lie is intended to persuade.
Al
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
Anyone who is fiscally conservative and socially moderate/liberal may actually enjoy this video. It says what most of us in the center have wanted to say at one point or another in the last few years. Pretty sure I’ll be blasted by someone, if not all of you – but I’m sure at least most of you will agree with one point or another. It may be fiction, but again, it says something a lot of moderates have been thinking for quite some time. http://youtu.be/yGAvwSp86hY
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
Yes, we can…
I didn’t waste my time reading on embarrassed one, but my advice is:
Air Iran is ready when you and your pocket gerbils are.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
“MSNBC: The Obama administration is now pivoting to JO(BS), JO(BS), JO(BS)!”
Now THASS funny. Especially after 42 straight months of record shattering unemployment above 8%.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
(Last year, Georgia hospitals lost an estimated $1.5 billion caring for
people without insurance….)
we dam sure did, and this douchebag wants you to pass up
$5 billion because you have to pay $700 million.
Typical stupid ass Republican bidness decision
in the blind obsession of driving over the ideological
wingnut cliff.
And this isn’t all of it. mrsstsimons had to lay off 6 MORE clinicians
in the mental health depts. Yes, Georgia – these patients will soon be
wandering your streets untreated, and somebody or whole groups of
people will be living in squalor, abuse, and maybe killed by people that
‘the party of no responsibility’ don’t want to mess with.
Please dear God Georgia, can somebody STOP THE STUPID?
Does your stupid ass-backward wingnut ideology mean so much to you
that you don’t care if you de-stabilize the civilization?
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
“Even, none of the cons are reporting – certainly in in any cogent, detailed or specific way – about what Flip and Eddie had to say.”
Yep JamVet, the big “mystery speaker” that had Republicans all excited turned out to be a big flop.
Makes you wonder about the judgement of Romney, putting on a stunt like this, in prime time, on their prime night, that turns out to be an embarrassing flop.
This is is an omen, elect Romney at your own risk America.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
It’s OK, brother Normal, he is an embarrassment to the rest of us Airmen!
Go Navy!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
Larry@11:41 – You and I do not normally agree but I’m with you on that post. Clint at 82, his thought process must be wandering, do not think any RNC people had anything to do with that though. Clint’s his own man, no matter what. I apologize for sayin he could still whip your butt, uncalled for comment. Some guy named FRED, wants to take up for you though, you probably can handle your own issues though!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:48 pm
Keep a knockin but ya can’t come in. Keep a knocking but ya can’t come in….
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
Brocephus @ 12:42. I saw that at halftime last night. The funniest thing was that the other team got confused too and TACKLED him before he could score a safety. Or better yet before he crossed the goal line and dropped the ball in the end zone for them to cover for a touch down lol.
larry
August 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
Tom, If i was Clint, i would beat up whoever talked me into doing that skit.
And i am not bereating anyone, but he should have just made a speech and then made way for Mr. Rubio.
And I am not alone in making this assessment..
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
12:51 pm
“Especially after 42 straight months of record shattering unemployment above 8%.”
Bush, the invisible man, lost 3.5 million jobs the last 6 months he was in office. Republicans denial and failure to take responsibility for that mess is the reason Romney and his invisible jobs plan should never occupy the White House.
GT
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
It is not the government it is the people who live in this state. How can you tell me this is the best government we can elect from this state? We have law firms, professors, doctors and accountants that in a blind dart contest could do better than these people but this is who we elect. We get what we deserve. For a small part of my life the city had more qualified mayors than the state had governors. The city got major league sports, airports and … Now both are out for themselves. We allowed it, look at the percent of voters who show up to every election, and most of them are doing no research just voting like it was a bodily function. This generation has destroy the church, marriage, the American family, the earth and a country by being selfish, fat and dumb. Not all of America is like this but enough of us are to make the rest pay for our stupidity.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
Our President had to work around corrupt congress on jobs and will continue to do so.
The fed can act without corrupt congress too so stop giving the gop congress a free pass con liars.
Enough with nothing but lies from you cons.
larry
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
I dont make threats behind a keyboard nor in person. And i dont call people names. If i disagree with them on policy, i make that disagreement known. But that’s it . Thats as far as it goes.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
Health insurance will increase as a result of the shortsighted GOP leaders.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
Fred – I remember you said you were a Marine, what era are you from? I do not want to continue with any pups, you already know I’ve from the Nam era so let me know about you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
Sorry Kamchak,
I don’t live here like so many others.
You don’t have to live here to read through the comments, and Jay’s are easy to pick out since they’re highlighted in bluish gray.
Had you read through them before running off at at the mouth, you would’ve at least been informed,
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Keep
I have no idea bout this infatuation with DragonCon. Evidently it’s a slur about nerds.
larry
August 31st, 2012
12:59 pm
And this isn’t all of it. mrsstsimons had to lay off 6 MORE clinicians
in the mental health depts.
Didn’t the feds get after this state for the way it handled their mental health patients ?
RAMZAD
August 31st, 2012
1:02 pm
This is about Deal and his refusal to admit the benefits of Obamacare into Georgia, and Right Wing mongooses has turned it into a referendum on Obama. They just love hating them some Obama.
RAMZAD
August 31st, 2012
1:02 pm
This is about Deal and his refusal to admit the benefits of Obamacare into Georgia, and Right Wing mongooses have turned it into a referendum on Obama. They just love hating them some Obama.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:02 pm
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred “It would be like you refusing to take tax deductions out of “principal.”
Isn’t that exactly what you tools whining about Romney’s 13% tax rate are expecting?
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So you call me a tool which is another words for a penis and think that’s ok, but If I were to call you a complete freaking moron that would be bad right?
I mean what SHOULD I call someone whois too stupid to know what I think about Romney’s 13% ytax rate? i mean i am on record here MANY TIMES laughing about my own 9% tax rate that I paid last year. I love it home boy. Keep voting me tax cuts and I should be able to get it down to 0%. Or better yet, i can get a check from some hard working middle class worker who makes 1/4 or our household income to help defray the 20 grand I year I pay for private school for my elementary school aged daughter.
Keep voting Republican, I WANT more money to go out to Bones. I LOVE going to concerts and such. We have AWESOME healthcare so I don’t care that Nathan screwed 650,000 fellow Georgians. It doesn’t effect me one bit. Your Republican caused economy crash means my house value went WAY down. As a result my property taxes dropped like a rock. Thanks.
The crappy economy also meant the interest rates went way down as well. I was able to get a loan on my house at 2.75% for ten years which I promptly bought stock with since the stock market was down as well. It’s climbed up and I’ve made a bundle.
I’m LOVING not having to pay the same tax rate as the middle class. But I’m not going to sit here and say it’s RIGHT, because it’s not. It’s a damn travesty.
But I’m gonna suck it up while I can. Because one day, even brain washed right wing fanatics like you are going to get tired of footing the bill for my awesome lifestyle. And I’m not even filthy rich, I’m not even a 1% yet, although if I got a job at McDonald’s the extra income would push us into the one percent. Please, keep telling me how awful I have it and how terrible it is for me to pay 9% in income tax. Oh and grab me another beer while you are up please. As long as you are toting the mail for me I’m sure you won’t mind waiting on me a little.
independent thinker
August 31st, 2012
1:04 pm
Hey fools Massachusetts has gone eight and half billion into US taxpayers pocket with excess Medicaid that we are paying for as Georgia citizens (you will never hear that from Kyle or GOP pom pom throwers) so my question is do you want to subsidize other state’s citizens and let ours eat up local hospital and patient’s dollars under Reagan’s socialized healthcare plan and unfunded mandate called EMTALA or is all that too difficult a concept for all of you to understand?
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:07 pm
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
Fred – I remember you said you were a Marine, what era are you from? I do not want to continue with any pups, you already know I’ve from the Nam era so let me know about you.
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Nope, not a Marine, I have brains. I’m from the era that restored the honor to the military that the Viet Nam era soldiers lost. We are the real soldiers, the ones who willingly made sacrifices for our Country. We didn’t have to be forced. We aren’t the ones who killed fellow soldiers, officers, and civilians while smoking dope and snorting smack. We are the professional soldiers, not the 364 and a wake up ones. Duty Honor and Country are more than words to us. We don’t whine like vam vets.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
1:09 pm
Clint looked tired, young folks say dumb.
He was acting, thats the deal with President Reagan, he was just acting.
That’s what actors do, act.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:10 pm
“What would Jesus fund?”
A Church.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:10 pm
Don’t hold back Fred, tell him what you really think!
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
When a Republican wants health care, he buys it for himself
See Jay? There’s your solution. Rags for Preznit!
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
I think Clint is the first American to go to the gop convention to tell the gop nominee to go f himself in front of the world.
Thank you Clint Eastwood.
Michael
August 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
And a big congratulations to the feds. The improved flood control system worked. This $14 billion project worked and We Built That! We probably saved a big part of the cost during this one storm.
Regarding Deal, he will handle this the same way the pubs handled the unemployment insurance fund. They gave tax breaks and depleted the fund during good times. Then, when the economy went south they borrowed money from the feds. I’m sure Deal thinks he can go to the feds, when the health care crisis hits Georgia.
If the US was serious about bringing down the cost of healthcare, we would put a big tax on the sweeteners that are making us obese, just like we tax tobacco. We would also require no fault insurance for gun owners, so the taxpayers do not have to pay for the treatment of uninsured victims of gun violence. Also, if the government decides that a fetus is entitled to the rights of personhood, then the government has an obligation to see that the fetus has access to prenatal care.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
larry, there has been an auditor in my wife’s office for more than half
of this fiscal year (ending 9/30/12). No findings on her, just this
stupid state of New Somalia.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
Speaking of that poor poor GOP party just too busy to hate PA tripe:
During a trip to Epcot at Disneyworld, Pennsylvania delegate Mark Harris [R] and his wife were shocked and offended to find a Mexican employee working at the amusement park’s American pavilion, which showcases the different cultures in the United States. According to the couple’s blog, Harris complained to staff that he was “highly offended” that a “person from Mexico” was working in the American pavilion when other nations’ pavilions were staffed by people from each respective country
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
He has chosen loyalty to party, declining to let Georgia participate in the expansion of Medicaid coverage offered through Obamacare. The result will be unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death. That may sound harsh, but it is also stark reality
Sad thing is, none our loyal opposition party (that’d be them Democrats) rhetoric will match this for clarity, and it should. But it won’t.
because it’s uncivil to point out that the other party is actually seeking to kill and hurt people for political gain, I guess.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
Steve: “What would Jesus fund?” A Church.
You might want to check that Bible again. Jesus wasn’t much for temples, money changers or churches. Maybe your problem is not reading and comprehending the stories of the Bible.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
1:17 pm
All cats need coverage
Hair balls
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
I think the gop guvs told our President they will do this so Obamacare will fail.
The gop guvs are giving us single payer, they just have not figured it out yet.
Jerome Horwitz
August 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
Hey Kam – About an hour to go until the BLUES kick it off.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
Keep -
Snarky as ever I see. I don’t care…..I still love you. Have an awesome holiday weekend.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
Ummmm Fred, a tool is an instrument one uses to achieve their objective. In this context, you are the tool being USED. Get your mind out of the gutter dude.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
deep breaths….deep breaths
knee-deep in the water somewhere
got the blue sky breeze blowin wind thru my hair
only worry in the world
is the tide gonna reach my chair…..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:20 pm
The gop guvs are giving us single payer, they just have not figured it out yet.
Interesting observation.
Obama plays chess while the GOP plays Candyland.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:21 pm
Steve, if being honest is snark, then you are right….. I am very snarky.
larry
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
No findings on her, just this
stupid state of New Somalia.
I guess the state wants them (the feds) to come down hard on them again.
They’ll never learn. I feel for Mrs. Simmons
Newby
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
JM – I had hair balls once.
Lucky my health insurance covers penicillin.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
St. Simons-
Off Topic- Did they ever build those new hotels on Jekyll Island? I used to visit there about 3 times a year but I haven’t been there in two years. Thanks.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:23 pm
Jerome
Yeah, I am debating whether or not to play hooky from my gardening chores and go to the local watering hole that has FSC.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:24 pm
Keep-
Health and Happiness to you…and let me include Kamchak as well.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
You too Steve.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
J-troll, for the love of gawd please do not tell me that you are going to be a good communist, labor union type and take off Labor Day!!!
If so, shame on you, RINO…
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
RB: Ummmm Fred, a tool is an instrument one uses to achieve their objective. In this context, you are the tool being USED. Get your mind out of the gutter dude.
Well I’ll be damned. I stand corrected. Sorry. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool
Kam: Well I DID hold back a little……… Did you see the USA/PRK women’s U20 game? I missed it dammit. If you DID see it, was it worth watching?
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
“You might want to check that Bible again. Jesus wasn’t much for temples, money changers or churches.”
Keep, its just mind boggling that Steve thinks Jesus would use $300 million to build a church. Jesus defender of the sick and poor would build a church???? That’s right up there with using $300 million tax dollars for a new stadium.
yuzeyurbrane
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
Jay, glad you mentioned Artie Blank’s proposed new pleasure palace. Other priorities are indicated by over $400 million proposed to spend on state financed charter school program, and on voucher type programs for private/parochial schools for $50 million per year while they have gutted traditional public education. I expect Georgia to vote for the football stadium for the Buckhead crowd.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:27 pm
…and let me include Kamchak as well.
“I don’t understand.”
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:28 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:27 pm
…and let me include Kamchak as well.
“I don’t understand.”
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He was wishing health and happiness on you. what’s not to get lol?
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:30 pm
“Keep, its just mind boggling that Steve thinks Jesus would use $300 million to build a church. Jesus defender of the sick and poor would build a church???? That’s right up there with using $300 million tax dollars for a new stadium.”
You have no idea what I think so let me tell you what I think is mind boggling. Where I live there are some gigantic churches, I think it is mind boggling that none of them have some kind of soup kitchen to provide a free lunch or two. I have never even been to the Georgia Dome so the money they spend on a stadium will not be for me.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
1:30 pm
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
“Health insurance will increase as a result of the shortsighted GOP leaders.”
No it won’t. Obamacare solved everything and those people will have to purchase health insurance per Obamacare.
“Bush, the invisible man, lost 3.5 million jobs the last 6 months he was in office.”
Danny X do loves his blame Bush card he do. So Danny is W still president???
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:30 pm
Last month, President Obama’s reelection campaign filed a lawsuit claiming that a recently enacted Ohio law eliminating early voting in the three days before an election, except for members of the military, violates the Constitution’s guarantee that all voters enjoy equal access to the franchise. The campaign’s lawsuit called for the right of all voters to cast an early ballot be restored in Ohio — it explicitly stated that expanding the franchise, not taking early voting away from military personnel as well, was the appropriate outcome.
In an opinion by Judge Peter Economus, a federal court agreed with the Obama campaign on Friday that the Ohio anti-voter law must be suspended:
“A citizen has a constitutionally protected right to participate in elections on an equal basis with other citizens in the jurisdiction.” In Ohio, that right to participate equally has been abridged by Ohio Revised Code ‘ 3509.03 and the Ohio Secretary of State’s further interpretation of that statute with regard to in-person early voting. In 2005, Ohio expanded participation in absentee balloting and in-person early voting to include all registered Ohio voters. Now, “in-person early voting” has been redefined by the Ohio legislature to limit Plaintiffs’ access to the polls. This Court must determine whether preliminary injunctive relief should be granted to Plaintiffs on their claim that Ohio’s restriction of in-person early voting deprives them of their fundamental right to vote. Following Supreme Court precedent, this Court concludes that Plaintiffs have stated a constitutional claim that is likely to succeed on the merits. As a result—and as explained below—this Court grants Plaintiffs’ motion for preliminary injunction.
Amusingly, the court’s opinion relies on the Supreme Court’s infamous decision in Bush v. Gore to reach this holding, citing Bush‘s statement that “[h]aving once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the State may not, by later arbitrary and disparate treatment, value one person’s vote over that of another.”
Wonder if Paragraph 12 Denier Recon and the other conned will start whining and lie more about this one.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
1:31 pm
Fred “I’m LOVING not having to pay the same tax rate as the middle class”
That’s a lie, Fred. You ARE paying the same tax rate. You may adjust your EFFECTIVE tax rate by taking more deductions than someone else, but you ARE paying the same rates. And since the Bush tax cuts you all want to whine about were across the board and not only “for the wealthy” as you tools want to claim, those middle class people you mention got a cut too, Fred.
You really aren’t that bright, Fred. I’m glad you’re enjoying flaunting your wealth and financial prowess on a blog (where everybody believes you’re being honest about that……), but your defense of your positions is that of a high school aged kid who thinks they’re getting something over on their parents who know better.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
Jay should feature ‘Everybody Wants to Rule the World’ from Tears for Fears album ‘Songs from the Big Chair.’
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
Fred
No, I missed most of the women’s U-20 games. I keep forgetting
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:34 pm
Steve, you might want to visit Vatican City to be really sickened by the excesses of a church. It is overwhelming. Stupendous while sickening.
But in all defense of some of the larger churches, I know many years ago that Peachtree Pres, the largest Pres church in the country, did fund a number of soup kitchens. They were not at the church because that is not where they were needed.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:34 pm
cnn is looping Clint telling robme to go f himself.
Clint Eastwood is the man.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
Jay’s selection today will be from Neil Diamond in honor of Clint.
“I am,” I said
To no one there
An no one heard at all
Not even the chair
Reality
August 31st, 2012
1:36 pm
When Georgia hostipals close, when middle class folks in Georgia cannot get healthcare of any kind, and so on….
THEN will people of Georgia wake up and stop electing these idiot republicans? I doubt it.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
1:38 pm
Under Romney’s tax proposal, HE will be paying less than 2% in Federal taxes. Keep this in mind when you go to the polls.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:38 pm
Keep-
You bring up a good point about the off-site soup kitchens. I live up North of Atlanta and I don’t really see any soup kitchens but I hope they are there.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Fred,
How the hell do you only pay a 9% tax rate. You’ve stated on here several times that you draw $19,500 a month in retirement income which is taxed at ordinary income tax rates. You would be in the top rate. So how did you pay only 9%. In order to do that you would have to have capital gains taxes and losses in extraordinary amounts to offset that income to get down to an average of 9%. Mitt Romney has 200 million and after accounting for capital gains losses against capital gains he still could only get his rate down to 13% the last couple of years.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Steve – USA – they haven’t finished everything, but it is close, and the
main road is open again, and they’ve really done a good job cleaning
up the construction.
after Labor Day,
You should be able to find a really good deal in the $60-80 range
if you’re on a budget, and on up if you’re in the Rmoney class.
You just missed the beach music festival.
Fred, I’m still waitin for you at the world famous Spanky’s
I even wore my tribal hat. and brought my guitar.
yep, larry, after Sept 30, i’ve gotta take the shawnee woman
to da Keys, get her outta here for a week or two.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
v
You really aren’t that bright, Fred. I’m glad you’re enjoying flaunting your wealth and financial prowess on a blog (where everybody believes you’re being honest about that……), but your defense of your positions is that of a high school aged kid who thinks they’re getting something over on their parents who know better.
Ah but son, I’ve met several people FROM this blog and they know I’m telling the truth lol. Your belief of lack thereof does not alter the truth. See, I’m not a Republican nor a right wing talk show host nor a Baptist. I don’t lie. My “stories” can be verified by real people on these blogs.I would be very surprised if Jay doesn’t know who I am lol.
Your main problem (other than a lack of grey matter) is that in your tiny little mind anyone who doesn’t walk lockstep with your whacked out far right wing fanatical narrow view is a “librul” or a “left wing pinko commie socialist DEMONCRAT. But reality isn’t that cut and dried son. YOU are on the lunatic fringe of the far right. Others here are on the luntic fringe of the far left. Many others are more moderate yet still are democrats or republicans. Others of us are independents. You far out lunatic fringe fanatics though look at everyone not in lock step with you as “the enemy.” And since your views are non supportable without lying you lie. Since you lie you accuse others of that lack of moral character. It helps you feel better about yourself for being a liar.
I understand. I feel for you, but I can’t reach you. Only YOU can free your mind from the stupidity to which you have chained it. You should try sometime, you might find you like it. Free thought is a neat thing, really, you don’t have to be afraid of it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
1:42 pm
“Obama for President” campaign thread #215
(Take it with a grain of salt)
Jerome Horwitz
August 31st, 2012
1:42 pm
Kam – The gardening will still be there tomorrow, sunday, monday………. But tournament games only happen once.
Bob Loblaw
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
I don’t care if its $4B or $714,000. We ain’t got it.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
“Didn’t the feds get after this state for the way it handled their mental health patients ?”
No. Otherwise Jays liberal cadre would be gone.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
Steve-USA “None of the Above”
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
Jay’s selection today will be from Neil Diamond in honor of Clint.
“I am,” I said
To no one there
An no one heard at all
Not even the chair
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Great one lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht0zsE9GPrs
Newby
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
RB – It’s kinda rude to accues someone of “LYING” when you are only offering a different interpretation of the situation. An assumption of good faith makes it seem like you are interested in discussing the subject, instead of merely attempting to impose your will.
Just a friendly word of advice…
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
“Obama Win: Court Reinstates Early Voting Days In Key State” Aol
The courts on stopping gop cheating in most States.
Why do the gop need to cheat if our President is so bad?
HDB
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
GREAT NEWS FOR DEMOCRACY!!!
Federal Judge Restores Early Voting In Ohio After Obama Suit
A federal judge in Ohio on Friday restored early voting rights in the three days before the election, ruling in favor of the Obama campaign.
U.S. District judge Peter C. Economus ruled that “restoring in-person early voting to all Ohio voters through the Monday before Election Day does not deprive UOCAVA voters from early voting.”
“Instead, and more importantly, it places all Ohio voters on equal standing,” Economus ruled. He said the state “fails to articulate a precise, compelling interest in establishing the 6 p.m. Friday deadline as applied to non-UOCAVA voters and has failed to evidence any commitment to the ‘exception’ it rhetorically extended to UOCAVA voters.”
The Romney campaign had falsely accused Obama of trying to curtail military voting when the suit simply sought to force the state to make early voting available to all Ohio voters.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/federal-judge-restores-early-voting-in-ohio-after
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
1:45 pm
“Danny X do loves his blame Bush card he do. So Danny is W still president???”
No, but Republican denial and lack of taking responsibility for the situation do nothing to help their cause. Repeating the insane mantra that bringing up Bush is taboo does not work with me. Nor does the new Republican mantra of “trust us” without any details.
Republicans can run from Bush all they want, I hope Democrats mention his name 100,000 times at their convention next week, reminding people of the disaster he left behind and the current Republican fools who have no idea how to fix the mess. Making sure Obama is a one term president is not a strategy to fix things. I said right here on the ajc blogs 4 years ago that whoever won the election would have a hard time being re-elected because thing were so messed up and a quick fix was impossible.
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Newby
August 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
getalife – I wonder that too. All the hyperbole about ‘worst president ever – evil marxist hater of America’, etc.
Do they ever wonder why Obama is winning?
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
St. Simons-
Thanks for the info. My wife loves to eat at Spanky’s.
How about when you go to the Keys I crash at your place? Leave your keys under the welcome mat.
Ivan
August 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
“Our President had to work around corrupt congress on jobs and will continue to do so”
working around a super majority must’ve been tough to get the health care bill passed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
The gardening will still be there tomorrow, sunday, monday………. But tournament games only happen once.
A most compelling argument.
Damn you!
iBS Aplenty
August 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
Twenty percent of our [Georgia] citizens are uninsured… -Bookman
Depending on the statistical source (CDC, USA Today, etc) anywhere from one-third to forty percent of Americans are obese. ONE-THIRD TO FORTY PERCENT. If you were serious about the health of Americans, Mr. Bookman, you’d ask them why they CHOOSE to be obese. That particular personal CHOICE subjects them to chronic and expensive to treat medical issues like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, hypertension and all the related problems that go along with them. Diseases that could be prevented by simply maintaining a healthy body weight. These are the diseases of choice and tremendous health care costs that could be avoided.
But then, you’re not interested in the health of Americans, Bookman, you’re just interested in controlling one-sixth of the American economy so Dem politicians can funnel these resources to their political cronies like the unions. Health care costs go up just like state university tuition and related operating costs and no end in site.
Gov. Deal knows when to say, no.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
Fed will do more easing because unemployment is their responsibility.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
So Danny is W still president???
No thank god. But the effects of his disastrous two terms are still being felt.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
What else would you expect but garbage and outright lies like this from the would be Liar-in-Chief?
“But today, four years from the excitement of the last election, for the first time, the majority of Americans now doubt that our children will have a better future,” Romney said.
Does the man or his handlers have no ability to do basic research???
Simply stated, they look like idiots.
What the pretzel-spined one “forgot” to mention is that the EXACT SAME THING was true 16 years ago.
Unfit to lead…
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Fred,
Well damn. I didn’t know you had met and hung out with several people on this blog. Bruno and Jamvet had hung out several times but it sounds to me like ya’ll got yourself a little social club going. I don’t think I would have verified my financial statements with people I might on a blog though. Not a smart thing to do there Fred even if we’re all on the up and up.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Spankys
Good pizza, fingers, spuds
Bad for you, your health insurer and the taxpayer
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
Newby,
The gop lie about everything is a good way to determine that our President is doing a great job after a collapse.
They expected a booming economy after a collapse because they bought the hype on our President.
Steady job growth without going back to a recession like the eu austerity is the best economy you will get after a collapse.
Economists predict 12 million more jobs unless congress screws it up.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
Thusla: How the hell do you only pay a 9% tax rate. You’ve stated on here several times that you draw $19,500 a month in retirement income which is taxed at ordinary income tax rates.
Nope I never said that. I said at least $19,500 was paid to us monthly (that’s the guaranteed part my wife has a GREAT job lol). I’m not retired lol, I’m “resting.” I still have my company which draws a lot of tax breaks even though I do as little business as I can. (I’m in the process of changing fields, when I get everything finished I’ll be re branded as a Computer Company). I’m not yet 50 so I can’t draw retirement income.
There is a way to write off some of my daughter’s school I think but I’m still researching it. Even so my accountant leaves money on the table every year. He told me years ago, “I can cut it to the bone but you WILL get audited at some point if I do.” So we leave some on the table so as not to endure the hassle of an audit. If you keep getting red flagged year after year they’ll finally make something up if they have to to nail you.
But nope, I’m not retired. Not even an AARP guy yet.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
If you were serious about the health of Americans, Mr. Bookman, you’d ask them why they CHOOSE to be obese. That particular personal CHOICE subjects
Oy vey. Few people I know CHOOSE to be obese. Many have had bad eating habits from their parents, low priced food (as a result of USDA funding choices) are high calorie, and there are new studies that show that certain food products/chemicals and BPA containers may actually be in part or in some cases wholly responsible for encouraging fat storage. Of course, the lobbyist for those producers fight to keep their products in the marketplace without proper warning.
Perhaps instead of false blame, help to provide them real education about healthy eating, mrestaurantsants provide the calorie content of their meals on the menu so people know how much they really are getting in that portion, etc., etc.
You are right. you are BS aplenty.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Bob Loblaw
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
I don’t care if its $4B or $714,000. We ain’t got it.
++++++++++++++++
But you have it to build Blank a new stadium and to go fishing with Sonny………
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
1:58 pm
Whining about people making poor choices does not fix anything. If you educate people and convince them to change their way of life, then you have a chance at keeping many of them out of the emergency rooms where they get very expensive care and ultimately increase the cost of health insurance for everyone above the cost to keep them healthy in the first place. And if the few that claim to be able to stay healthy forever and never need unaffordable healthcare do not want to pick up their tab for continuous coverage, they have options. They should feel free to exercise one of them.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:59 pm
leave some on the table – good advice, & not just for accounting
Steve – you’d be welcome, dude. But i got a line 5-deep. Never HAD
so many friends as when we moved from Duluth down here. sha-na-na
Peter
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
But there is no cure for STUPID!
YUP. and that is who voted Deal into Power !
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
I’m not yet 50 so I can’t draw retirement income.
You can if you follow the rules. I’ve been drawing my retirement pension since I was 47.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
Fred,
That’s interesting. How is your company structured that it can pay so little in taxes?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
Jm, if lovin spanky’s is wrong, i don’t wanna be right
j/k they have healthy food now too
Peadawg
August 31st, 2012
2:02 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/both-republicans-democrats-distorting-truth-medicare-factcheck-org-145223432.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:02 pm
iBS Aplenty
‘Nuff said.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
I don’t think I would have verified my financial statements with people I might on a blog though.
Doom: I haven’t. But if you know my name and know how to google it’s easy to get close numbers lol. Unfortunately my name is fairly unique so I pop right up when it’s googled. As does my wife. LOl I just checked her name, she is the whole first page of Google. Then I get to the white pages and it says there are 2 people named _____________ in the US.One in Texas and one in Georgia.
Besides, without knowing exact numbers, you can visit someone and know if they live in a trailer park or a decent neighborhood……….
getalife
August 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
Ivan,
The key word is jobs.
I guess you missed it.
Went over your head..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:06 pm
Obama: “The Affirmative Action President”
“Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job?
Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer”; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote “present”); and finally an unaccomplished single term in United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as legislator.
And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?
Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:
To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2011/08/obama_the_affirmative_action_president.html
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:08 pm
Fred,
I may have to talk to my accountant cause I still can’t figure out for the life of me how you only pay 9%. Your wife’s income is ordinary income so again that puts you at or near the top marginal tax bracket. The math still doesn’t make any sense as to how you could have enough tax losses through your company to offset your wife’s earnings and reduce your rate all the way down to 9%. You using Mitt’s accountant?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
To be sure, no white…
There’s your sign.
Rabbit hole.
Ed Preston
August 31st, 2012
2:10 pm
Jay Bookman is so wrong. It shows that he is one of those that follow the lead of the liberal media even when the media “got it wrong”. Study and think and you will agree with Gov. Deal.
iBS Aplenty
August 31st, 2012
2:10 pm
…apologies, I got carried away and used a bad word. I take back the “ObamaCare” reference (ha-ha-ha…..)
Soothsayer
August 31st, 2012
2:11 pm
Obesity is a “growing” problem:
Here is a great interactive piece regarding obesity in America. Believe it or not obesity is a relatively new phenomenon in America. Click “animate” to view.
And, now this:
What could possibly be the cause of this dramatic increase in obesity in just the last few years?
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:11 pm
Rabbit hole.
Scout is barely able to scratch out a pothole with that stuff he posts.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
2:12 pm
“You using Mitt’s accountant?”
At least he saw his tax returns.
“You people” do not.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
2:12 pm
St Simons
I fell ya
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:13 pm
Thulsa: I don’t know lol. I’m an S-corp so the company losses are deducted from our joint tax return. my accountant does my company and then our personal return and we sign it and wait for the money to come back. I never really checked for percentage before this year, just looked at how much we were paying. But when I looked at the figure this year I was like WHAT? That can’t be right. That’s less than 10 percent. But it was right. Now my wife is back in school for her doctorate and I think we can deduct THAT money and I’m going to go back to school in January and I know we can deduct that money as it will be “training” for my new Computer Company.
I wouldn’t be surprised (if they keep the taxes like they are now) if we end up paying less than 5% on gross income next year. Maybe even 0% depending on the start up costs of the computer business. I haven’t decided which route to take.
b-troll
August 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
this is just awesome. 235 mpg….. production next year. VW.
http://speedlux.com/2013-volkswagen-xl1/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
What could possibly be the cause of this dramatic increase in obesity in just the last few years?
Corn syrup?
Yep, but I would also guess that growth hormones injected into our protein sources also factor in.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
Clint’s 4th movie in the series – ‘Every Which Way but Lucid”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
“Bernanke: Fed Must Do More On Unemployment… Awful Jobs Market A ‘Grave Concern’ … ”
Thanks Obama.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:16 pm
Rabbit hole? I don’t think rabbits start digging in that sewage that Brave Sir Digits posts. I do worry whether the county sewage system can handle the volume from his home. That is almost solid cake to start with…. doesn’t flow well in the system.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:16 pm
St. Simons: If you’ll remember,the last time we were down that way, it was raining like all bejeebers so when we left, we just drove straight on home.
I’m hoping to get back down there. Having been to Amelia Island and Hilton Head for the first time ever this past summer, I’m anxious to check out your little island paradise as well. WHat would be sweet is if my wife had a conference there like she did at Amelia. Then it would be a virtually FREE ‘vacation.” LOL You and i could drink beer and fish while she was off conferencing…….
getalife
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
We get it scout.
We know you are a racist.
Give it a rest racist.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
I wonder how many SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! are obese?
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
“Besides, without knowing exact numbers, you can visit someone and know if they live in a trailer park or a decent neighborhood……….”
Yes and no. Got a close personal friend that was doing real well and then his business went south. He got foreclosed on his $2 million dollar house, sold his ferrari at a huge loss, had a porsche that he sold at a big loss also. Basically he lost everything but like a fool he was living beyond his means. And then I do business with another man whose uncle lives in a double wide trailer. The uncle has over 2 million dollars but he is happy in his trailer. He bought it when he was just starting out and just never wanted to move. I’ve seen a few people in million dollar homes get evicted. Happens all the time. And lately it seems like there is always some athlete or big time entertainer declaring bankruptcy or getting foreclosed on. Its remarkable.
Anyway, I was asking because I’m not quite there yet but at the rate that I’m going I will be in that high bracket where I’ve got to get my taxes substantially reduced. No mortgage though, no car payments, cash in the bank with no debt owed so in that regards I’m fine but I don’t have the 7 figures yet. Not even close.
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
These people are so fixated on the president as if he were a CEO and could do as he pleased, it’s the congress who writes laws; always was and always will be. With major losers such as mitch mcconnell and the boehner dude, it’s quite clear where the real failure is…
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Fred I do not know who you are but you make some valid points!! You have a cheerleader on this end!!
Soothsayer
August 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
Kam: that may be the case, but, given the information in the second chart, I think that it would be hard to deny a causal relationship between HFCS and obesity.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day.”
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
The numerologist sure doesn’t like black people.
And is very proud to demonstrate his obsession with them every day of his robed life here…
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
What could possibly be the cause of this dramatic increase in obesity in just the last few years?
I dunno about anyone else, but I quit doing carpenter work to take care of my daughter but i forgot to quit drinking beer and “forgot” to start working out. Without the hard physical labor every day, those empty calories turned into a big belly and a fat ass. I realized one day I hadn’t seen my feet in 3 years lol. Last time I went to the beach someone tried to harpoon me. I decided then I needed to diet so here I am. Eating freaking salads and drinking Odouls……….
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
Fred, So its your wife’s money. Moocher!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:23 pm
Trouble in Paradise:
Washington Post:
“Just days before a congressional deadline, the Obama administration is deeply divided over whether to designate the Pakistan-based Haqqani network as a terrorist group, with some officials worried that doing so could complicate efforts to restart peace talks with the Taliban and undermine already-fraught relations with Pakistan.
Early this month, Congress gave Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton 30 days to determine whether the Haqqani group, considered the most lethal opponent of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, meets the criteria for designation — a foreign organization engaging in terrorist activity that threatens U.S. citizens or national security.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-administration-divided-over-designating-haqqani-network-as-terrorist-group/2012/08/31/48f046f8-f2d4-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_story.html?hpid=z1
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:23 pm
0311
Damn – you really are just stuck on it…have you ever conceded how many jobs were lost by the time the previous president thankfully left in jan 09? How was jesus judged by hanging out with the dregs of jerusalem in his day? Crucified…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:24 pm
“The Affirmative Action President”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:25 pm
“Off and Running: Romney Hits Trail
With Message of ‘Jobs… Lots of Jobs’ … “
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:25 pm
Sooth
What I’m saying is there is no one cause.
I think it was Doggone/Ga that brought up her consumption of a certain soft drink. When it was manufactured using HFCS she craved it almost as an addict. I believe she said she switched to a non HFCS based soft drink and her consumption decreased.
So yes, manufacturers have a vested interest to use HFCS especially if it encourages consumers to ingest more of it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
“To be sure, no
whiteVP candidate whohad close associations withwas married to an outspoken hater of Americalike Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayerswould have lasted a single day.”Fixed that.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
10) During a July campaign stop in Virginia referring to American businesses: “YOU DIDN’T BUILD THAT!”
9) “I suspect that most people in Cincinnati would acknowledge that I’VE TRIED REAL HARD ………. ” (Democrat House for two years and Senate for four).
7.99) To the American people regarding the Gulf Oil Crisis: ““I can’t suck it up with a straw”!
7) To the American people: “It’s absolutely not a tax increase !” http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-campaign-its-a-penalty-not-a-tax-127721.html
6) To the American people: “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency.”
5) To Larry King: “There has been a tendency by this administration to hide behind executive privilege.”
4) Speech to an Hispanic group: “With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case ………. ”
3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”
2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.” http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=-Czo5Vf8KZs
1) To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
BINGO !!
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:27 pm
Anybody can talk jobs but coming from a job destroyer, it’s a bit of a stretch or just a bain in the azz…
Larry
August 31st, 2012
2:27 pm
Governor Deal chooses political gamesmanship over the health, welfare and lives of Georgians.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
Oh noes. We’re going down the path of racial discord again.
Is there anybody on here who like Doomy is also opposed to institutional racism? Raise your hand if you oppose institutional racism!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
“The word ‘racism’ is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything – and demanding evidence makes you a ‘racist.’ ”
Thomas Sowell
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
DannyX,
Believe me, we Republicans want you and everyone at the convention to mention Bush Bush Bush. I know it’s just like JamVet and Jay so often do, stabbing at phantoms of racists, bigots and “corporate” whatevers. It’s a self-evasion from reality, and I like the democrat chances for losing so long as there is one republican party that acknowledges what is real and one democrat party that pretends what is illusory is real.
The more you guys ignore the real issues and the more you pretend your opponents are something they’re not, the more you look out of touch.
Republicans, at least, change with the demands of the times. With you guys, it’s just racists and “corporate” whatevers at every single turn.
Tell me Danny, what kind of government do you get, when you elect Democrats based on nothing but declaring war on their political enemies–the non-existent racist rich christians? Hint: Fidel Castro is still doing the same kind of demonizing Obama does.
The more you mention Bush, the more undecided people will realize that Democrats are just off-rocker here. I say “yes, you can.”
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
This is the hypocrisy of the Obama Administration…. And he ought to be voted out just for this. Having a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured…. but not everyone must prove they are a citizen….. And many who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens……..
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
0311,
Before I die I’d like to meet Thomas Sowell. No conservative in my lifetime has been so influential to me–not Buckley, not Reagan, not Steyn. Maybe Chesterton.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
Scout,
Once again i have to ask you what could have president Obama done about unemployment without the help of Congress or Business? Is The President just your boogie man? Where is the respect for the Office you swore to protect?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Ooops !
“President Barack Obama was today forced to announce he will fly to storm-hit Louisiana on Monday – hours after Mitt Romney beat him to the punch by deciding to head there this afternoon.
After it emerged that Obama was still taking time to fit in a campaign stop in Cleveland, Ohio before checking out how clean-up operations are proceeding in the Bayou state, the Obama campaign abruptly cancelled that event.
‘In light of the President’s travel to Louisiana to meet with local officials and view ongoing response and recovery efforts to Hurricane Isaac, President Obama will no longer travel to Cleveland, Ohio on Monday, September 3,’ the campaign said in a terse statement.
Romney had changed his schedule to head to an affected town outside New Orleans while Obama, who has yet to visit the Tropical Storm Isaac zone, headed off to Texas to campaign.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2196389/Mitt-Romney-heads-storm-hit-Louisiana-President-Obama-hits-campaign-trail.html#ixzz259MY77J4
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Fred, if ‘Georgia’ doesn’t stop its seemingly determined quest to
out-Somalia Somalia, we’re gonna soon be residents of Amelia.
That’s our fav beach of all the barrier islands.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
And still you don’t think “Papers, Please” is wrong? What a hoot!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Hmmmm…. so now “institutionalized racism” is bad unless of course its directed at one group of voters…then the PA is a great defender with lies.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
See “2016″ !!!
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Bush III wants to fire somebody. He ain’t worried about the poor.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
“Limbaugh: Clint got under Obama’s skin”
Ooops ! Two more racists.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
Let’s see, what are those characters that would fix scouts list.
How about 8)
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
Fred, So its your wife’s money. Moocher!
+++++++++++++++++++++++
That would be SMOOCHER (if ya know what I mean ;D ).
We aren’t at 7 figures yet either Doomy, but for you, as a single taxpayer, with no major deductions, including house payment, you ARE paying my “fair share” of the taxes lol. Thanks. If I ever see you, I’ll buy you a beer. Will that make us even? I mean we get the college fund for the child tax break, the Roth, the 401, house, now honey’s college, my business, flexible spending……… I don’t know hwta all we get, that’s why I pay the accountant. But whatever he does is legit because he’s been doing it for us almost 20 years and never any blowback. LOL and he does it all for $350.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
Yep.
Okay scout. Type “8‍)” for 8)
Hopefully I typed that correctly.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
Scout, Obamabarrassment,
Like I said. I oppose institutional racism. You would have thought those racist pigs in Fulton county would have learned when they discriminated against the librarians several years back. Clearly they did not. Sad that this kind of bigotry in employment still exists.
From today’s AJC
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/jury-fulton-discriminated-againt-white-male-job-ap/nRPnf/
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
You know what?
I have gotten REAL deep into the embarrassment’s head. (Sadly, I own the kid…)
My gawd, all you KKKonservatives do is talk about black people!
How lazy they are, how entitled they are, how they are too stupid to join your Lily White Party. How they will nevr leave the plantation. How they live for Food Stamps. And on and on and on and on and on.
In some ways, it is hard to fault you, I suppose.
You never fell far from your deeply racist, arch-conservative, southern Baptist roots that your parents and families came from. (Don’t shoot the messenger.)
Wow, speaking of embarrassments, embarrassment, I just watched Clint’s “speech”.
What a train wreck.
His legacy now will forever be tied to that bizarre, semi-lucid and somewhat vulgar performance.
Which is a real shame, because aside from the staged madness last night, he seems a decent guy…
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
Hey Ronald Reagan Parkway: Thanks. I used to live up that way, back when they were just finishing RR Parkway. We lived off Five Forks Trickum. We moved ITP just as the Gwinnett Arena was getting finished and all those good places to eat moved into Lawrenceville
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:38 pm
0311,
You’re right of course about the associations. What we got in Romney was actually a hyper-decent human being, despite the fact that most of us conservatives wanted something else.
The pendulum does not swing both ways however, because Democrat nominee’s stories don’t have to be told at convention. They are carried for free by the media, in glowing analyses and ubiquitous puff pieces.
I noticed criticism last night on CNN, wherein Anderson Cooper (would he have gerbils JamVet?) criticized Romney for not telling his story. For being either too proud or too humble, (or both) Republicans may be criticized openly. For Democrats to be criticized they need to be…..well, we’re still waiting for CNN to criticize the President for something substantial.
Remember, the open advocacy of the liberal press began 30 years ago with Reagan. Succeeding Jimmy Carter, Reagan was the apparent creator of a heretofore unreported enormous homeless problem.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
“The word ‘racism’ is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything – and demanding evidence makes you a ‘racist.’ ”
Thomas Sowell
When Kevin Phillips, the architect of Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” comes out ans says “black people have NO PLACE in the GOP”, what would you call that?? When Lee Atwater, Ken Mehlman and Michael Steele PUBLICALLY stated that that is the GOP’s modus operandi…..what would you call it??
Try this link, go to “The racial, ethnic composition of the GOP”….and start from the 1:50 mark: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46979738/ns/msnbc-up_with_chris_hayes/
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
2:40 pm
“I believe she said she switched to a non HFCS based soft drink and her consumption decreased”
Yes, that was me. When I drink regular Mountain Dew, sweetened with HFCS, I gradually increase how many cans I drink per day. When they brought out MD Throwback, sweetened with cane suger, I drink 2 cans a day and only 2 cans a day
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
I guess you folks love ole mitt since he’s the only girl left at closing time.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Obambarrassment / Thulsa:
I hear you ………… but have to run for awhile so you guys take the point.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Today’s Arguing with Idiots Post from JamVet:
My gawd, all you KKKonservatives do is talk about black people!
How lazy they are, how entitled they are, how they are too stupid to join your Lily White Party. How they will nevr leave the plantation. How they live for Food Stamps. And on and on and on and on and on.
In some ways, it is hard to fault you, I suppose.
You never fell far from your deeply racist, arch-conservative, southern Baptist roots that your parents and families came from. (Don’t shoot the messenger.)
Wow, speaking of embarrassments, embarrassment, I just watched Clint’s “speech”.
What a train wreck.
His legacy now will forever be tied to that bizarre, semi-lucid and somewhat vulgar performance.
Talk about vulgarity! –and straw men.
Good luck.
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Normal Free. I just want our elected President, who took an oath, to obey and enforce the laws on the books. This president is suing states trying to protect it’s citizens, while not enforcing the laws. No spin here. Just facts.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
HDB:
Yawn ………………………
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
Yeah, someone needs to take the point, the other guy is in full retreat…
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
“But whatever he does is legit because he’s been doing it for us almost 20 years and never any blowback. LOL and he does it all for $350.”
Fred,
You getting off cheap. A friend that was in the same business as the one that got foreclosed on closed down his business before things turned and got out completely. He made millions before he quit though. The accountant he introduced me to charges reasonably for pikers like myself. But my buddy had paid him 20k in accounting fees to keep him legal and reduce his burden. And leave some money on the table. I leave plenty on the table. I could legally write off crazy amounts of mileage but my accountant told me he won’t do it because it raises a red flag. Its just not worth it even though I’m legally entitled to it. Like you and him I also have a Subchapter S.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
What did I miss? What laws are you talking about?
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
ghost
Politics my friend, the previous guy chose which laws to ignore also, you know, to the victor goes the spoils. You might not like it but that is american politics…
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
BTW, watch that semi-lucid performance of Eastwood’s.
When they pan the crowd, you will notice something very, very obvious.
Out of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people there, you will not see ONE black face.
Seriously. Maybe you cons can point one out to me.
Maybe they were in the kitchen? Or maybe in the very last row? I couldn’t tell.
Now, granted that was also the exact same case in 2008 and 2004 and 2000 and 1996 and 1992 and 1988 and 1984 and 1980 and….
You get the idea…
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
“I just want our elected President, who took an oath, to obey and enforce the laws on the books”
Better join us in the real world. There has never been, and never will be, a time when EVERY law is enforced 100%. Never. There are always going to be people in the loop with the ability to make a judgement call on when to enforce something and when it’s not worth the effort, time and money.
Unless, of course, you’re willing ot pay a HELL of a lot more in taxes to hire the people to DO the investigating and the court appearences.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
Embarrassment, let me guess, some of your best friends are black people.
LOL…
Segregation Yesterday! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation Forever!!!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
HDB,
Since you like to whine about race perhaps you would like to comment on the blatant racists running Fulton county in the link that I posted above. Have at it. I look forward to hearing your righteous indignation at the racism in Fulton County.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:47 pm
This president is suing states trying to protect it’s citizens, while not enforcing the laws. No spin here. Just facts.
Not intended to be a factual statement…. The conned just don’t seem to understand that if its not true, its not a “fact”.
Seems to be lost on the GOP…. of course, look at Eastwood. “We don’t need lawyers in the WH”…. Anyone know what year Mitt got his law degree from the same school that Obama went to?
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
Carvel’s polling out today. It ain’t good for Barry. Now, polls on here to these loons only matter when their man looks good. The bad news is it’s still a electoral college event and that is in the Kings favor, but closing. Too many things have to line up for Mitt to unseat this guy. The polls are not good for Barry though. Can’t answer the state by state polling. It’s been a steady decline for Barry since Ryan came on……..But they will show you a MSNBC poll in a minute showing Barry up by 15……………………………………9,8,7,6………..any second now
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Great photo from Clint’s speech
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Reckon who gonna give speeches next week ?
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
ghost
Don’t fret, republican governors and state houses are doing everything humanly possible to suppress the vote. So breathe easier they are trying to level the playing field for an upset…
Julia
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Well, of course he does, that is a given. the 99% can disappear under bridges or cardboard boxes, fend for ourselves, die on the streets, go hungry, without access to ANY type of medical assistance. Just so long at the top 1% can continue taking more & more. but this is what the people voted for, or some of them, not all of us are that blinded by hatred. what i can’t understand is why people repeatedly vote against their own best interests.
skydog
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
I have been out been getting the drums set up for the jam.
What`s all this gooie stuff all over the walls?
One of um heads explode or something?
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
“Segregation Yesterday! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation Forever!!!”
JamVet,
Did you know that it was the black vote that helped put George Wallace back into office in 1982? Its an interesting footnote in history but he got over a third of the black vote to regain the governorship.
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
Alabama, S. Carolina and Arizona have been challenged,sued etc over their immigration policy.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day.”
Why does one have to repost such utter bullcrap, especially when it’s so friggin’ wrong? Well, you’re right, they didn’t last a single day, they served their entire terms.
Why not talk about previous president with ties to the KKK? Is it because they were White and they had close associations with people that only hated N******S and not America as a whole? I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe this country will start to heal then.
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
Clint fooled everybody real good…he said it was halftime 6 months ago and he meant it, score one for dirty harry and his sabotage mission on live tv. Well, do you feel lucky mitt?
JOE COOL............
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
Funniest line I heard all day:
“Mitt Romney couldn’t create 12 million jobs… even if he brought slavery back…. “
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
350? oh hell to the no
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
Doggone/GA
I apologize if I offended you in any way by recounting your story.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm
Yo Skydog? Where’s your band playing this weekend? Keep us posted if you don’t mind. One day I’ll actually get a chance to go see you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
Off to find The Blues!
skydog
August 31st, 2012
2:58 pm
Pretty good beat down for a vegetation Fred.
Here is one from skydog on your left flank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-5XgI244xo
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
Why not talk about previous president with ties to the KKK? Is it because they were White and they had close associations with people that only hated N******S and not America as a whole? I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe this country will start to heal then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP6v4T3VT7I
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
On Wednesday, more Americans tuned in to watch the reality TV show “Honey Boo Boo Child” than the republican convention.
LOL!!!!!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
Fred
Only you could do that!!
That’s going to my bookmarks for later use.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
LOL Skydog, ummmm thanks. Which one? I seemed to have had a couple of “spats” today.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
Romney will win only if those most wealthy can find a way – any way – to steal the election. Maybe it is through illegal “laws” (see Ohio), maybe it is through spending so much money on TV commercials to brain wash people (see how much the republicans have raised), or whatever.
Thinking middle class Americans are sick of the republican tricks, lies, and twisting of truth.
Mick
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
fred
You can lose the weight and you will feel terrific but….there’s no getting around it, sacrifice you must and be patient. No more junk snacks, no more pizza, no more fatty cakes, no more chocolate. Exercise is the key and you need to get into it, addicted to it, get high on it. In 90 days you will look like a completely new human being and a funny thing will happen, when you decide to have one of those junk snacks you more than likely will spit it out because the taste just isn’t the same – good luck!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
btw…
If anybody’s offended by my post @ 2:54, that was not my intent. However, I will not sit idly by as bs get’s tossed around like Mardi Gras beads. You would think that a country that prides itself on it’s exceptionalism would be able to deal with any and all issues as adults. Howver, we know that stores sell Depends™ by the box, so there’s obviously a market for diaper-wearing adults.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
uh-oh
Where’s da bump?
http://www.electoral-vote.com
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
“I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe this country will start to heal then.”
Brocephus must have read my 2:37 and is outraged over this latest example of racism coming out of Fulton county.
skydog
August 31st, 2012
3:11 pm
10 minutes after the convention Clint makes a call to the White House and says, “OK Mr President, everything went as planned”.
chris rock
Mick
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
brosephus
I feel your pain and its so damn frustrating day in and day out with that garbage. Here’s one for you: A reporter asked Ghandi what he thought of western civilization, he replied, ” I think it would be a good idea”…
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
Enter your comments here
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
With Message of ‘Jobs… Lots of Jobs’ … “
……….In China and India………..
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
Doom
They’re included. I don’t discriminate. You think I’m gonna give them a pass or something??? Unlike the people you associate with based on political leanings, I don’t cater to bigotry of any kind, nor do I excuse any of it. Maybe one day, others will be able to point the finger at their own as well.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
Scout…dom’t hate the messenger…….that’s what the GOP has done!!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
Domm….I’m opposed to what happened….but I can understand it better than you could!! You should hope that this nation could get past this…but the problem is that too many on one side still have the racial animus…and too many on the other are looking for payback!! Pure and simple…..
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 31st, 2012
3:16 pm
If South Africa can heal (mostly), why can’t the U.S.?
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:16 pm
So Doom, when you gonna call out YOUR fellow conservatives for that crap?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
3:17 pm
I don’t know what jay has in mind for FNM tonight or if we are just free wheelin’ but I dedicate this to all you Wild Turkeys out there…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgy6AVkZmeo
Mr. Marcus - Have Tingaling Will Travel
August 31st, 2012
3:17 pm
Ten minutes after hell freezes over and sh###t stopped stinking.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
“Bernanke: Fed Must Do More On Unemployment… Awful Jobs Market A ‘Grave Concern’
Then why aren’t you railing against the REPUBLICANS in CONGRESS who won’t work towards the Jobs Bill that Obama wants to bring forward? Oh yea….Mitch McConnell (”We want to make him a ‘one-term President’”) and John Boehner (”We’re saying NO to everything!”)………
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:21 pm
“The Man from Bloomfield Hills” — The Mitt Romney Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqvO1biXS38&feature=player_embedded
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
3:22 pm
Brocephus,
That’s what I thought. Just wanted to make sure. My thing is that I hold everybody accountable for their own racism and that includes black people. The only way to advance beyond race in my opinion is to hold everyone to the same standard- in everything.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:22 pm
We’ve already had the Arguing with Idiots post for the day. Here’s the Overcooked Rhetoric of the Day: equating Obama with Jesus.
How was jesus judged by hanging out with the dregs of jerusalem in his day? Crucified…
Matti
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
“If South Africa can heal (mostly), why can’t the U.S.?”
Good question.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
Honorable mention for Overcooked Rhetoric:
Segregation Yesterday! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation Forever!!!
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
“I apologize if I offended you in any way by recounting your story”
No offense! I just wanted to be sure it was exactly right.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
3:25 pm
The only way to advance beyond race in my opinion is to hold everyone to the same standard- in everything
Well except of course when that “race” thing is directed at voting….then PA is a complete supporter.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:26 pm
Marcus & Matti,
What must happen before the “US heals?”
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:26 pm
Mr. Marcus, South Africa doesn’t have Republicans…
Reagan and the racist South African regime. Reagan was very slow to criticize the South African Apartheid regime. He vetoed economic sanctions against the regime (Congress overrode the veto). Reagan’s political ally, the Reverend Jerry Falwell, traveled to South Africa and endorsed the apartheid regime– encouraging his flock to buy Kruggarands in order to offset sanctions against the regime. Falwell referred to Nobel laureate Bishop Desmond Tutu as a “phony.” (Note: during the 1960’s, Falwell used the Bible to justify the preservation of Jim Crow laws by arguing that blacks were stricken with the “Curse of Ham” and thus, it was God’s plan that they be submissive to white people).
• In 1983, as a show to the South, Reagan fired three members of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission and replaced them with right-wing ideologues.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
3:27 pm
During these past four days at the RNC convention, janitors have worked around the clock picking up after delegates, conservative stars like Ann Coulter and Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), and the thousands of reporters in cavernous filing rooms. And many are doing so making less than minimum wage.
Carolyn Walker said she has been cleaning the convention center for 13 years. She had been making $8 per hour until a few years ago, when the cleaning contract went to another company, Cleanevent USA. The new company meant a new, downsized paycheck. She’s now making minimum wage — $7.67 per hour. But that wasn’t the only hit to her wallet.
Walker said the company charges her $6 per week for uniforms. “It stinks to tell you the truth,” she said. “We work very hard.” It effectively means she’s making less than Florida’s minimum wage.
You people are supposed to show some gratitude for the jobs that the Republicans done brought to ya. The next thing you know, they’ll be demanding health insurance or sick leave or other such profit-sucking nonsense.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
Reagan denigrated the Voting Rights Act of 1965. A little background on the Act: Prior to the passing of the Act, voting by blacks in states in the deep South was less than 10 percent. This was largely because of sham literacy tests, in 1980, far from applauding the numerous injustices that the Voting Rights Act remedied, Reagan denounced it, declaring that it was “humiliating to the South.”
White Power!!
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:30 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day.”
Why does one have to repost such utter bullcrap, especially when it’s so friggin’ wrong? Well, you’re right, they didn’t last a single day, they served their entire terms.
Why not talk about previous president with ties to the KKK? Is it because they were White and they had close associations with people that only hated N******S and not America as a whole? I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen.
Award for Most Overheated Argument of Day. Also, most ironic pronouncement…”single molecule of oxygen.”
0311 was right. When liberals imagine suffocating conservatives, they also pretend its the conservatives who want to suffocate people.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
3:30 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day.”
Brocephus,
I don’t call this out because in my view its factually accurate EXCEPT for one thing. I would have replaced the word “white” candidate with liberal or Democratic candidate. Reason being that liberal candidates white or black get a pass for past racist associations but for now let’s just examine the white ones- Robert Byrd as a former Klan leader, George Wallace as a former segregationist, Al Gore’s own daddy, Bill Clinton’s mentor Senator from Arkansas who I think was also a segregationist, and on and on. Harry Reid with the negro dialect comments. If Reid was an R the media would have raised hell and demand that he step down. What he said was dramatically worse than what Trent Lott said- though I despise Trent Lott for wholly separate reasons as a hypocrite and big spender.
I don’t think there is any question that there is a double standard. I just disagree with the poster and I believe that he mistakenly believes its based on race. I can see why but its not. I think its based on ideology and party affiliation.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:31 pm
Let’s see, the racist Reagan also opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which prohibited discrimination in public accommodations.
So what do you expect from the rank and file Lily White Party members today when this is their Anointed Savior?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
The GOP are still…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3sURDS4IA&feature=related
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
Geez. For the 3rd or 4th time today Tweedledum keeps knocking on the door. And for the 3rd or 4th time today he is
R
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Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
3:34 pm
“White Power!!”
I can always count on JamVet to take a heated topic and make it funny.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
3:34 pm
This is what they sing in the White House…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvnIwg0lEA
Matti
August 31st, 2012
3:35 pm
Marcus & Matti,
What must happen before the “US heals?”
Another perfectly valid question. Based on the kinds of things I’m reading from you today, I find it hard to believe you actually care about the answer.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
Brave Brave Sir PA runs away again.
godless heathen
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
On Wednesday, more Americans tuned in to watch the reality TV show “Honey Boo Boo Child” than the republican convention.
No wonder someone like Obama gets elected.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:37 pm
Daily Award for Obsession with Racism and the klan.
On this blog, that’s a very tough thing to give out because of sheer number & maybe Jay gets an award for hosting so many leftist kooks.
Anyone want to give it a shot?
Frankly, I’m tired of reading the same old hateful cliches. Someone else take a turn. Give me substance!
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:37 pm
Doomy, it’s my gift to mankind!
Brother Normal is just killing ti with that early Airplane and Steppenwolf…
Back at ya my Navy brother.
The opening guitar part still gives me goosebumps…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7-8sCLWwLk
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
Jam
I’m not sure if I am calling Reagan a racist, however I did post last night what his main man Lee Atwater was all about.
Some yesterday claimed that it was only isolated instances for the Republican Party yet the RNC chairmen keep apologizing, Atwater included, for the systematic polarization of voters based on race.
I also mentioned that it was a two way street and the Democrats have their own hand dirt.
I just find it amazing how the same people are still deflecting today and acting like it is and has been just a minor thing in the Republican Party.
That is just effn stupid to continue with that rhetoric when looking at the facts I presented and not a soul refuted
Matti
August 31st, 2012
3:40 pm
“Give me substance!”
Please! After you…
(**holding door wiiiiiiide open**)
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:40 pm
More substance, embarrassment?
OK, if you insist…
Reagan attempted to revoke the federal ban on tax exemptions for private schools that practiced racial discrimination.
• Reagan used a stop at the Neshoba County Fair in his 1980 campaign to inject dog whistle politics aimed at unreconstructed Southern segregationists by the tactical use of code words like “states’ rights.”
• In 1986, Reagan nominated Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III to be a judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Alabama. During the confirmation hearings, it was disclosed that Sessions had engaged in a pattern of behavior that was hostile to civil rights and racial equality. Sessions had referred to the ACLU and the NAACP as “communist-inspired” and un-American because they “forced civil rights down our throats.” Thomas Figues, a black Assistant U.S. Attorney testified that Sessions said he thought that the Ku Klux Klan was “okay until I found out they smoked pot.” Figures also testified that Sessions called him “boy” and testified that “Mr. Sessions admonished me to ‘be careful what you say to white folks.’”
Don’t worry, embODS, there’s plenty more.
Just chew on that and tell me how it tastes, OK?
skydog
August 31st, 2012
3:40 pm
They also do “these people” at the White House.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoagkxrPshU
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
3:41 pm
their own hands dirty
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
3:41 pm
In the future, the light reflecting properties of the Republican Party will diminish as a result of reduced total head count. Hence, the ratio of light reflecting units per total units will remain a constant over time and the remaining will believe that nothing has changed all the way until only one remains. At that point, he can kiss his ass goodbye.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:42 pm
Matti,
I do, actually, and I’m genuinely interested. You pretending that I have no interest is 100% incorrect. I do have an interest, and I remember being told before, during and after the election annd inauguration of Barack Obama that his ascent to the Presidency was an historic event, that among other things would help the country heal.
In Obama’s own acceptance speech four years ago, he said the whole planet would heal.
Based on what you’re telling me though–as I suspected–you either have reluctance or inability to answer the question….
So…got anything? any ideas at all would be appreciated.
Newby
August 31st, 2012
3:46 pm
Embarassment – you keep up the ad hominem attacks, but never address the arguments.
Not compainin’, just asyin’.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
3:47 pm
Damn Jam! That took me back! I’m out to later on. I’ll be back. Gotta cook for the little lady and her friend, then while they’re gabbin’ I’ll be spinnin’ platters…
—————
SKYDOG,
That’s one on the reasons I like that guy, know what I mean?
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
JamVet,
Well, it’s old substance, rusty, cantankerous and of no relevance to 2012, but I like it. Reagan and a federal judge in alabama. Good stuff. Rock hard. Compelling. Envigorating the base… Wow! Just explosive!
Keep it up. Only 67 more days till Romney’s election. Those of us on the right will be glad to hear all we can hear in the press about Ronald Reagan (RIP) the racist when Mitt Romney is talking about and while Obama is avoiding talking about Obama the failure.
So, do you want us to talk about the unrepentant terrorists and anti-American friends of Obamas?
Fortunately, we don’t need to. His awful Presidency is the issue.
But you…. you’ve got nothing else.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
August 31st, 2012
3:49 pm
Did I post all that?
Sorry,…fat granny fingers.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:51 pm
Newby,
I will deliver on whatever subject you ask me, an honest answer, and a courteous one, as best I can. The vulgarity, rudeness and straw-man arguments belong to many people here (and mostly to leftists obviously), but not to me.
Matti
August 31st, 2012
3:51 pm
Ohbarrassment,
I am not pretending anything. I merely stated my observation based on what I’ve read from you today. There’s a difference.
As to the healing you speak of re: the election of this President, yes, I have seen some healing. The racism of my grandparent’s generation is but a fraction of what it once was, although the few hold-outs are scary indeed. The difference between my parents’ views on race at the age my children are now, and those of my children, is vast. With Obama’s election, one big milestone of a racist society was erased: The notion that any American kid could grow up and be President — unless he’s black. If you’re white, you probably never thought much about it, but I guarantee you that black children heard that unspoken “unless” loud and clear. That is no more, and that is a good thing, regardless of how you feel about this President’s limited ability to clean up the colossal mess he inherited.
More healing is needed, though. Those who seek shall find.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
“Domm….I’m opposed to what happened….but I can understand it better than you could!! You should hope that this nation could get past this…but the problem is that too many on one side still have the racial animus…and too many on the other are looking for payback!! Pure and simple…”
HDB,
Well we have a little bit of agreement. I wouldn’t say thought that you can understand it better than I can with the suggestion being you can understand it better cause you are black. That right there seems to be a fairly racist view.
but the problem is that too many on one side still have the racial animus…”
Not quite. I’ve known white people who have low opinions of black people. But then I’ve known Indian and Asian people who have low opinions of black people also. Doesn’t make an entire race bigoted. But of all the white people I’ve known that may have some negative views of blacks I’ve never known any of them that go out of their way to screw black people out of a job, promotion, or a business contract. As a matter of fact I’ve seen the opposite. I know lots of white people that go out of their way to see that a black person gets a fair shot either at employment or at their business or just at things in general. I think there is a mentality amongst “some” not all black people that white people wake up every day looking for a way that they can screw a black man out of an opportunity or just looking for a way that can screw a minority person out of something. And that is simply not true.
“and too many on the other are looking for payback!! Pure and simple…”
I see more of that than anything else. And that’s a shame. Two wrongs do not equal a right. But there is one thing that I’ve seen several times in life that I find disturbing and that is this black tribalism. Everyone has it but it seems much more prevalent amongst blacks. I’ll give you a quick example. My girlfriend was laying in bed the other night watching this stupid show she watches about all these mothers who have their daughters in a competitive dance school. 5 white ladies and a black lady. The black lady happens to be my gf’s favorite and from what little I’ve seen she seems to be the nicest one and the most sensible one on the show. But I digress. Another black lady- very aggressive, very loud, etc. came on and there was a dispute between her and one of the white women. Well the black woman wanted to get into a physical fight over it. And before that she yelled at the other black woman. And she yelled to her something to the effect- “You supposed to have my back” even though she was clearly in the wrong and being overly aggressive. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen black people make naked racial appeals to other blacks based solely on race. I’ve seen it several times in real life and they tend to do it right there in front of white people as if appealing to each other just on the basis of race is okay.
Frankly I don’t understand how it is that black people complain about racism but they think its perfectly acceptable to do things for each other or take the side of each other against a person of another race based solely on race. Can you explain that? Because if everyone goes around siding with people based solely on skin color then we are going to have an incredibly racist and segregated society in every facet of our lives.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
BOTH, it would be different of the numerologist, embarrassment, j-troll, deli, sunkwich or any of the other rabid Republicans here had the balls to say, “Yes, it is true. Shamefully we have a very long, very documented and very disgusting track record when it comes to racism in this country. Further we have done a terrible job of admitting and more importantly addressing that and making fundamental changes within our party. And it starts with me”
But it will be a cold day in a certain mythology’s subterranean hangout when that happens though…
And right on cue!
…of no relevance to 2012…
Entrenched, systemic decades old bigotry and racism. THAT as much as anything else is the very face of the southern white male Republican…
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
I don’t call this out because in my view its factually accurate EXCEPT for one thing. I would have replaced the word “white” candidate with liberal or Democratic candidate.
Doom
That’s the thing. If one thing is wrong, the entire statement is wrong. Had he not used the word “White”, then he may have had a point. However, he did not do as you said you would have done. Therefore, his statement was wrong. TO try to downplay it or excuse it is tantamount to co-signing it, IMHO.
Also, trying to conflate the argument by switching to party and or ideological affiliations give the impression that you tend to want to agree with him. It’s a simple premise. Either what he said was right or wrong. There’s no middle ground.
——————
Award for Most Overheated Argument of Day. Also, most ironic pronouncement…”single molecule of oxygen.”
Award for Dumbass of the Day. Seems that somebody forgot that humans breathe O2 and not just O. As a matter of fact, unless you forcefully separate them, oxygen is always O2 in the normal environment. The oxygen we breath is a compound that’s made up of TWO oxygen atoms. When you combine two or more atoms, that substance becomes a molecule. Geez, he really let the stoopids out then…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen
At standard temperature and pressure, two atoms of the element bind to form dioxygen, a very pale blue, odorless, tasteless diatomic gas with the formula O2. This compound is an important part of the atmosphere, and is necessary to sustain terrestrial life.
Sometimes, people should really not type out the stuff they “think” they know, especially when they don’t really know what in the hell they’re talking about. However, anybody who blogs under a name that contains the word embarassment likely has no qualms about showing of his/her ignorance at every available chance.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
3:54 pm
Matti,
OK, once again, so that everyone can see what the left wants.
How can the US heal?
Have an answer. That’s a substantial question, and it demands a substantial answer.
We are all waiting.
Lord Help Us
August 31st, 2012
3:56 pm
Well, if it was on a reality show, it must be real…
omfg…
That Black Guy
August 31st, 2012
3:58 pm
Fred, I think I found your theme music.
It’s what you do to both sides (and I love it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaqmY2Dhgc8
Matti
August 31st, 2012
3:59 pm
Ohbarrassment,
Excuse me? Now you’re just being rude. I agreed that the question is valid. I did not swagger on here claiming to have all the answers, nor that I speak for “what the left wants” or the “leftists” you deride.
I tried to be civil with you and foster productive dialog, but clearly that is not your intent. Good day.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
4:00 pm
Hmm. Looks like the obsessor is pining for Doomy’s attention for about the 5th time today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAn1FmW7ypE
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
4:00 pm
Bro,
You’re the hateful fellow. I’m not going to let you get away with the false notion that this argument involves chemistry or physics.
Once again: Let me quote exactly what you wrote.
Ready? Here goes. Watch carefully and be not distracted by shiny object:
I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen.
Why don’t you tell us all what that means to you, instead of patronizing us with the chemical arrangement of oxygen atoms at STP?
Then, you can tell me why you think I chose to live in Clayton County if I’m such a bigot. While you’re at it, you can tell us why all Republicans, conservatives or others are bigots, and why you and every other leftist here can’t stop ranting about bigots.
That would be a substantial discussion I suspect you would not want to have.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
4:02 pm
Matti,
You answered the question well enough.
Thank you.
Anyone else?
skydog
August 31st, 2012
4:02 pm
Here is one from some guys from New Orleans. MOST of us are glad you are still here Big Easy.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/sy-14208712/the_radiators_like_dreamers_do_official_music_video/
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
4:03 pm
OK JamVet,
Here’s an abdicated argument I put out for your considerable intellect.
How can the US heal?
I would invite anyone else to chime in here. Mr. Bookman?
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
4:04 pm
Jam
The deflection of what about Robert Byrd, Republicans freed the slaves, blah, blah, blah………… is nothing more than a weak minded feeble attempt to downplay the role the Republican Party has played in doing the same exact thing………
To be honest, the usual suspects doing it is par for the course, but a few others……….. I must say a little surprising and disappointing in my opinion
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:07 pm
Obambarrassment
I’m not hateful at all. I also do not like people putting words in my mouth, nor will I defend a stance that I have not taken. Therefore, if you want me to answer any question from you, answer this single question from me.
Where did I state anything that specifically pointed to Republicans, Conservatives, or any political leanings at all?
I’ll even help you out. Here’s my entire post which you obviously allowed the voices in your head to interpret for you instead of actually reading what I wrote.
Why does one have to repost such utter bullcrap, especially when it’s so friggin’ wrong? Well, you’re right, they didn’t last a single day, they served their entire terms.
Why not talk about previous president with ties to the KKK? Is it because they were White and they had close associations with people that only hated N******S and not America as a whole? I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe this country will start to heal then.
Kindly point to where I said anything about political leanings, and I’ll answer your questions. Otherwise, I expect a full retraction and a full apology post instead.
Your turn.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
4:07 pm
“How can the US heal?”
Lol, what a load of crap!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
4:12 pm
Brocephus,
Geez. You just had to go and bring chemistry into your post. Sheesh. I freaking hated chemistry. But I digress.
Regarding his statement I don’t agree with it. As I said I would have used “liberal or Dem” instead of white. So I do disagree with the premise of his statement. No.
But while I disagree with his statement I don’t think its crazy out of line or even racist and I’ll tell you why. I want you to ask yourself this just to toy with his statement for a moment or 2. If John McCain or Mitt Romney had sat in a pew for 20 years listening to a hate spewing preacher who commonly invoked racial animosity do you honestly think that man would have made it as high as garnering a party nomination? When it comes to provocative racial comments there really is no question that a white candidate- at least an R white candidate, is held to a substantially higher standard then say a black Democrat. And I don’t think that’s really debatable.
That Black Guy
August 31st, 2012
4:13 pm
Fred- LOL and he does it all for $350.
________________
Fred, hook me up with your accountant.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
4:14 pm
How can the US heal?
One way and one way only.
Heal ourselves first.
We don’t have a problem with the “government” or the “schools” or whatever.
We have a huge problem with ourselves. Self-centered, shallow and unempowered. Willfully!
As individuals we can do a LOT better and we can damn well stop blaming everybody and everything else.
If this country sucks, (and it doesn’t!) it is because of you and me. Period.
THAT is personal responsibility.
And if I had the money I would greatly refine that basic message and travel the country with it.
I would point at all of the people in the crowd and tell them that the problem in America is with you and you and you and…………………………….. me.
Now quit bitching, get out there and fix it! One creek, one street, one neighborhood and one child at a time…
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:20 pm
Regarding his statement I don’t agree with it.
That’s all I was asking. Your extended explanation gave the impression that you were trying to validate his point. If that’s not what you were doing, then my apologies for insinuating as such. That was just the impression that I got.
If John McCain or Mitt Romney had sat in a pew for 20 years listening to a hate spewing preacher who commonly invoked racial animosity do you honestly think that man would have made it as high as garnering a party nomination?
Yeah. Honestly, given the fact that we haven’t heard anything relating to what either candidate has listened to in church, we don’t exactly know what kind of message they have listened to, do we? We can only go off of assumptions.
Bringing the Wright sermon up as a point opens you up to quite a few faults you’d have to defend with that argument too.
#1 Can anybody prove that Obama was there for every sermon, every week for those 20 years?
#2 Did Rev. Wright preach that same sermon or that same general topic/meme each week for 20 years?
#3 If #2 is yes, then why have we not heard numerous other sermons instead of that one line of one sermon being repeatedly looped?
I could keep going, but I don’t wanna tire you out. I understand your point about Rev. Wright. However, if you take an isolated line from a single sermon, can that accurately and truthfully be articulated as the message that was heard for 20 years?
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:21 pm
TBG
What’s up bro?? Care to jump in on my 4:07 and help one of your fellow conservatives out? It’s been 15 minutes, and I’m worried that he got distracted by the red light on his computer tower.
Matti
August 31st, 2012
4:26 pm
JamVet,
Nicely put!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Nh84lfvW0
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
4:27 pm
“However, if you take an isolated line from a single sermon, can that accurately and truthfully be articulated as the message that was heard for 20 years?”
And how do you explain that the church had WHITE members while he was the preacher there?
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
4:30 pm
Bro,
What is “you bigots” if not political leanings in a political blog.
It’s supper time, and I will continue this discussion later if you want, or on another day.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
4:32 pm
JamVet @ 414,
I agree mostly. Well said.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:32 pm
Doggone
There you go throwing a wrench into the machine.
Guess Mr./Mrs. Obambarrassment hasn’t figured out where he got the idea that I called Conservatives or Republicans bigots. Oh well, just another bloviator who’s gotten called out for misappropriation of the truth here. Not the first time, nor will it be the last.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
4:32 pm
JamVet,
But the question “how can America heal racially?” Is that another question or is it the same?
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
4:33 pm
Brocephus,
I don’t want to wear you out with the Reverand Wright stuff either cause frankly I get tired of hearing the shyte. But O acknowledged that he had a 20 year relationship with Wright and his church. The man married him, O had said he was mentored by the man, and unless I’m mistaken I think he was godfather to their children. From his own account O had a close relationship with the man and if memory serves correct I think he had also referred to him as a father figure. Anyway, I just believe in the old Chinese proverb that if you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. I just don’t like my president to be associated with fairly radical elements. But enough. The Reverand Wright stuff is tiresome for all of us.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
4:33 pm
No offense! I just wanted to be sure it was exactly right.
Doggone/GA
I figured as much and I tried to be as accurate as my my meory would allow.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
4:33 pm
“What is “you bigots” if not political leanings in a political blog”
Bro – methinks someone inextricably ties “bigot” to one particular “political leaning”…wonder why THAT is?!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
4:34 pm
“memory” not “meory”
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
4:38 pm
“But the question “how can America heal racially?”
The answer is easy to say, not so easy for too many to do: let go of racial hatred and fear
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
4:39 pm
SoCo/Bro
Sometimes it’s best to not go down that rabbit hole. The original post was meant to be provocative.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
4:39 pm
Thanks, Matti and Oe!
As much as I (stupidly) rag on people here,Ii believe the nation has healed racially. At least to a great extent.
Sure there is still along way to go, but my goodness, look at where we are as opposed to where we were when I was 17 and living in Nebraska.
Incredible change!
True story, when I moved here form Buffalo in 1979, I was shocked to see black buys and white guys riding together in pickup trucks and working jobs together.
So in some ways Dixie gets to take a lot of credit.
Most of us want the same things – peace, security and love. (Corny, huh?) For us, for our communities and country and especially for our children.
And as the Fab Four sang…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP4apO4dbhw
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:41 pm
What is “you bigots” if not political leanings in a political blog.
“You bigots” is exactly what that statement means, that means it applies to those who are bigots. If you noticed, I did not specify, races, gender, age, political leanings, location, or anything else. You decided to put specifics into that meaning, not me. Also, this is not just a political blog, but it is an opinion blog. There’s a big difference between the two.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:41 pm
Bro – methinks someone inextricably ties “bigot” to one particular “political leaning”…wonder why THAT is?!
Pardon the old saying, but…
A hit dog will holler.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
4:45 pm
Brosephus:
I’m not offended by your posts nor am I sorry for posting that Obama is president not because of his qualifications but because enough black and white people simply wanted a black president ………… period.
I wanted one too ………… I just would have preferred someone qualified like a Colin Powell.
As I have posted before, in my military and law enforcement career I have been willing to give my life for my black brothers in arms (and they for me), I have black Christian friends that are like family to me and wonderful black neighbors. If you want to call me racist or even bigoted go ahead ………… it’s a free country but it doesn’t make it true.
I’ll close with this quote just provided to me by African-American Bishop E.W. Jackson (I guess he’s racist/bigoted too):
“Later this month when Democrats make same-sex marriage part of their official Party Platform ………….. They will be saying, ‘We don’t care what you think, what you believe, or what the Bible or the God of the Bible says. We know better than God.’” Jackson’s message to Christians is, “The Democrat Party has turned its back on Christians. It is time to turn our backs on the Democrat Party.”
Amen BROTHER !
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
4:45 pm
“A hit dog will holler”
Exactly!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:46 pm
But O acknowledged that he had a 20 year relationship with Wright and his church.
I have a 20 year relationship with my friend who was my best man at my wedding. That doesn’t mean that I’ve been attached to his hip for 20 years, nor does it mean that we believe the same things. We are as close as blood brothers, but we are still our own individual persons.
You’re inferring far more into relationships than what has been expressed and/or proven. Jumping to conclusions can sometimes lead to right answers, but that can also lead to very ugly mistruths. I simply choose to deal with proven fact instead of inferences and innuendo, but that’s just me.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
4:48 pm
“That doesn’t mean that I’ve been attached to his hip for 20 years, nor does it mean that we believe the same things”
Shoot, I’ve had a “relationship” with my SISTER for 58 years and we are VERY different from each other!
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
4:49 pm
Obama is president not because of his qualifications but because enough black and white people simply wanted a black president ………… period.
Then again, maybe I should just forget that part that I just wrote about us as a people healing racially!
LOL at you scout!
My man, you are NEVER going to get with the times, so good luck back there in the 1950s!
That Black Guy
August 31st, 2012
4:52 pm
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:21 pm
TBG
What’s up bro?? Care to jump in on my 4:07 and help one of your fellow conservatives out? It’s been 15 minutes, and I’m worried that he got distracted by the red light on his computer tower.
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Bro, what’s crackin’?
Help him out?
Nah, he can kick his own azz all by himself.
I was going to ask Fred to loan you his theme song that I gave him at 3:58.
I was expecting ABM to grab his shoes and come out to play.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:54 pm
Scout
If he condones, participates in, or actively encourages discrimination of people because of their personal life choices, then yep, he’s a bigot too. There are no limits on who can be bigots at all. Even clergy…
I’d also remind you and your Bishop that neither one of you can absolve anybody other than yourselves of sin. As a Christian, you should already know that. As an American, you should also know that people have the freedom to practice their religion or lack thereof without fear or reprecussion. Contrary to your opinion, nobody’s trying to tell Christians what they have to do. Instead, people are trying to tell Christians that, in America, YOU can’t dictate what others do.
I go to work daily to ensure that people have the freedom to continue to do that, as well as ensuring you have the right to express your religion without persecution. Expressing your religion does not mean you get to force your beliefs on others.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
4:55 pm
Brosephus @ 4:46
Rev. Wright is just the tip of the iceberg.
I suggest you Google “Obama’s Questionable Associations” and then go see 2016.
Or ……………. you can stay uniformed.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
4:56 pm
JamVet:
You left this part out of your reply:
“I wanted one too ………… I just would have preferred someone qualified like a Colin Powell.”
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
4:58 pm
Sometimes it’s best to not go down that rabbit hole. The original post was meant to be provocative.
Kam
I’m in the Doggone camp on that one though. Sometimes, you have to punch ignorance in the mouth.
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TBG
I might have to co-opt that one there. When the ABM comes out the closet, you’re likely to hear this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swMzRlFvKMc
Definitely not a good thing to hear coming at you.
Deal Aint No Deal....CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
4:58 pm
Can CONS spell B-a-m-b-o-o-z-l-e-d.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:01 pm
I suggest you Google “Obama’s Questionable Associations” and then go see 2016.
I’ve heard about his “questionable” associations. Do you think he would have been able to get the security clearance necessary to hold the office of the President if he had issues in his background? You know how detailed that background clearance is. You also know how few people get that clearance.
As to that movie, I don’t do propaganda. If he cleared the necessary background to hold his office, then I’m good. Obviously, you cleared your background investigation. That means they actually hold weight, right?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
5:01 pm
Brosephus:
Some would disagree with you ……………….
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams
Every law ever passed in this country is a “moral” judgement passed by the majority. That’s why we still have laws regarding prostitution, illegal drug usage and even where one can smoke.
Deal Aint No Deal....CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
5:01 pm
You PEOPLE are arguing about race.
DEAL JUST STABBED MOST OF YOU IN THE BACK.
ARGUE ABOUT THAT.
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH CAN YOU?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
5:03 pm
Brosephus:
“I’ve heard about his “questionable” associations. Do you think he would have been able to get the security clearance necessary to hold the office of the President if he had issues in his background? You know how detailed that background clearance is. You also know how few people get that clearance.”
And you actually believe that the President of the United States undergoes a background investigation for a security clearance? That is only done by the press (and in the case he was
never vetted as others have been).
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
5:05 pm
Brosephus:
“If he condones, participates in, or actively encourages discrimination of people because of their personal life choices, then yep, he’s a bigot too.”
You mean like Obama trying to force Catholic hospitals to provide abortions ?
Deal Aint No Deal....CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
5:07 pm
PEOPLE F-O-C-U-S
SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS AMONG THE 650,000 of his fellow Georgians
IN NEED OF HEALTH INSURANCE.
Gov. Nathan Deal faced a choice.
He could choose to be loyal to his party’s political ideology, or he
could choose to be loyal to some 650,000 of his fellow Georgians
IN NEED OF HEALTH INSURANCE.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
5:07 pm
And YOU left this part out of your nonsensical reply:
I didn’t give a tinkers damn if any candidate is black, white, yellow or red. THAT is not, in and of itself, enough for me to vote for them. And why I voted for Ralph Nader.
And why I found Herman Cain, for example, to be a cowardly, very small man.
And I too liked Powell a lot. UNTIL he got into bed with those lying, deadly scoundrels in that gawdawful administration.
It absolutely ruined his legacy.
Moreover, you are extremely conflicted and your principles seem as malleable as spaghetti. Out of one corner of your mouth you mock Obama as the Affirmative Action president. Out of the other you adore Ms. Rice – though she favors Affirmative Action.
You really are one blind person. Alas, it sure isn’t color blind…
Deal Aint No Deal....CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
5:08 pm
I DID NOT VOTE FOR DEAL.
DID YOU?
Shameonya!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
5:09 pm
SoCo/Bro
This was an exercise in ego stroking and nothing more. If this had been an honest discussion about addressing this issue I would agree with you. You were baited for the sole purpose of someone getting to post the “agree to disagree” line.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:11 pm
“It absolutely ruined his legacy.”
It did indeed. And if you dig into his past, and especially the opinions of him that were held by some of his Army peers…it’s not so flattering as his “public” image would lead you to believe.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:11 pm
Some would disagree with you ……………….
And some would disagree with you……… Whoop de doo!!!!
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That is only done by the press (and in the case he was
never vetted as others have been).
So, Fox News ain’t worth a damn. Glad to see somebody finally admitting it. Seriously, we wouldn’t have known about Rezko, Wright, Ayers, and every other “boogeyman” in his background had the press not ran the news stories on them. As a matter of fact, the GOP opposition research really sucks as it was Clinton’s team that put out most of the “dirt” on Obama. That’s about right for the current GOP as they can’t seem to do anything that remotely resembles actual research or work.
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You mean like Obama trying to force Catholic hospitals to provide abortions ?
And from which cavity did you dig that diddy? Maybe you’re thinking about your boy Romney who got the price of abortions in Mass down to $50. I’m looking foward to you actually posting proof of Obama trying to force Catholic hospitals to add services they don’t provide.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:12 pm
Scout
Are you aware that Dinesh D’Souza book has been revealed to have numerous inaccuracies? That is the same book that the movie is based on.
I suggest you go to google……….. or remain uninformed
That Black Guy
August 31st, 2012
5:15 pm
Deal Aint No Deal….CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
5:01 pm
You PEOPLE are arguing about race.
DEAL JUST STABBED MOST OF YOU IN THE BACK.
ARGUE ABOUT THAT.
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH CAN YOU?
__________________________________
Why are you YELLING?
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:16 pm
“Are you aware that Dinesh D’Souza book has been revealed to have numerous inaccuracies?”
Inaccuracies? How “genteel” of you!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:16 pm
Kam
Most days I ignore that crap. Every now and then, I like to kick lies in the ass. Today was the day to lace up the shoes. I know how inflated Scout’s ego is. Hell, I know people who worked with him who say the same thing. Sometimes I just get a kick out of exposing the ignorance of idiots. It’s a bad trait that I have to live with.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
5:17 pm
Brosephus:
I’ll leave you with a quote I used to hear from my Dad all of the time:
“He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.”
Bottom line: I wish we had a qualified African-American president who espoused the virtues so cherished by millions and millions of Americans …………. but we don’t. That’s why we have elections.
God bless ………….. off for a jog.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:17 pm
They BOTH
Scout lives in some alternate reality. He wouldn’t know truth if it delivered his government paid healthcare.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
5:19 pm
Called it!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:20 pm
I wish we had a qualified African-American president who espoused the virtues so cherished by millions and millions of Americans …………. but we don’t. That’s why we have elections.
I wish people actually had a semblance of a grip on reality. You prove that my wish hasn’t come true so far, but I can always wish. The fact that you can’t see beyond your partisaned bs and bigotry doesn’t mean that others see the same thing you do.
God bless you dearly, and enjoy your run.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:20 pm
“He wouldn’t know truth if it delivered his government paid healthcare.”
I learned a long time ago to beware of the person who is wholely convinced of their own righteousness
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:22 pm
Kamchak
Maybe people who lurk will see the futility in their attempts to propagate this bigoted bullsh*t. People like me are not standing for this crap anymore. I may protect your freedom of free speech, but that also means I’m protecting mine to call bullsh*t on you when you spout it.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:22 pm
Bro
At times I must agree………….
That book was filled with so many holes. Anyone can go to youbtube and watch him side step and stutter when he was doing interviews when the book came out.
If the book is a crock, why the hell do I want to spend money to go see the movie which it is based off of?
That would be like me saying, you want to know about Bush, go watch Fahrenheit 9/11. That would be a joke, just like that fauxumentary, 2016
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:23 pm
Bro
He tries, I really think he does, but it still comes out………..
Bless is heart
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:24 pm
Doggone
My family is deep in the church. I know true righteousness when I see it. I also know false prophesy and such when I see it. For his sake, I hope he straightens his spirit out before his judgement day.
Doug B
August 31st, 2012
5:26 pm
Deal is a one man death panel.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:26 pm
“I also know false prophesy and such when I see it. For his sake, I hope he straightens his spirit out before his judgement day.”
I wholeheartedly agree. It is those who don’t question, who don’t doubt, that are in the greatest danger when facing a calling to account.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:27 pm
Bro
Grew up in the church, but not a religious man. Of courseone only gets a degree of any individual’s persona on a blog, but I can truly say I haven’t come across many that will bring the Bible in one hand and selective condemnation that always suits his needs in the other…….. to the extent it is displayed here.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:27 pm
They BOTH
Last night, he tried to test my knowledge of the history of my people in this country as though I wouldn’t know it. I just like to throw stuff back in his face. As a member of the Secret Service, he knows that anybody who even sniffs classified documents have to clear security clearances. He likes to brag about his different jobs, but I’ve known Marines, Secret Service Agents, Air Marshals, and all. He can pull that bluster with uninformed people, but not me.
B-troll
August 31st, 2012
5:29 pm
Medicaid is a broken system
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:30 pm
I can truly say I haven’t come across many that will bring the Bible in one hand and selective condemnation that always suits his needs in the other…….. to the extent it is displayed here.
I haven’t run into it much in my personal life, but I have first hand knowledge of people very close to me who have been there and seen it, felt it, and bled from it.
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It is those who don’t question, who don’t doubt, that are in the greatest danger when facing a calling to account.
Very true…
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:34 pm
Bro
I’m with you. When called out for selective condemnation and hypocrisy, you have never seen a better two step and semantics game than is displayed on this blog.
He would have been the man in TX………….. That two step is deadly.
From last night, I read it. He has posted that thing about the black slave owner 10 if not 1 million times as if that justifies the slavery or the racism that took place even from people who didn’t own slaves.
Granted not all people were or are racism, but deflection, lies and semantics to downplay or justify speaks directly to the character of the individual…………………. And I don’t give a damn if they single handily won an entire war.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:37 pm
Bro
Want name names, but I was slightly disappointed in some of the responses that came last night and today from one of our regulars.
The clowns from all sides, never surprise me, stupidity is entrenched in some of them or they play the role on an Oscar performance level.
But the one in particular, aside from the joking and rhetoric that takes place, sort of made me think a little
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:38 pm
They BOTH
I’m with you there. Most times, I ignore posts like that, but for some reason, I’m in the mood to bash people over the head with the truth. I guess I’m finally tired of all the lying that’s been going on during this campaign. I can’t see how people can live with themselves acting as we witness here and other places. As a man, I couldn’t live with myself if I exhibited the character of some of the people here.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:41 pm
“I guess I’m finally tired of all the lying that’s been going on during this campaign.”
Amen to that. But I have to say, what else can you expect when it is the head of the “clan” who is leading the way with constantly repeated lies. It’s not the lie that is the problem, it’s the saying it over and over when you KNOW he knows he’s lying.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:41 pm
Bro
I have got out of hand several times. Each time, I had to tell myself one do not lower yourself and two, based on how some of these folks act, I wouldn’t take two minutes to get to know them outside of this blog.
As for my 5:37, I am sure you know the one of which I speak about
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:41 pm
I was slightly disappointed in some of the responses that came last night and today from one of our regulars.
I didn’t read everything last night and this morning. I’ve been in that boat before though. I look at it as we’re all human and subject to act that way. I’ll give people benefit of the doubt for a while before forming an opinion of them. I try not to hold things against people for long periods of time either, unless it’s something I consider seriously offensive. If I lose respect for people though, I seldom engage them at all here after that happens.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:46 pm
“I seldom engage them at all here after that happens”
Yeah, it’s hard sometimes not to wish this was a more sophisticated blog that allowed an “ignore” function
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:46 pm
Bro
Me neither. I actuary get along real well with this blogger. However when I read the same deflections and projections today as last night on the same “main” issue that we were dealing with, it to struck a nerve to be honest.
Again, I get along with the blogger real well and will probably continue to do so.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:48 pm
But I have to say, what else can you expect when it is the head of the “clan” who is leading the way with constantly repeated lies.
There is that. I guess the attack on intelligence is entering it’s 2nd phase.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
5:49 pm
Yeah, it’s hard sometimes not to wish this was a more sophisticated blog that allowed an “ignore” function
That would probably decrease my page count by half.
Seriously though, sometimes I like to see the stupid on full display knowing that’s somebodys mother, father, sister, brother, or other relative that’s making a complete fool of themselves.
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:51 pm
“There is that.”
Personally, I got thoroughly disgusted with the constant repeating of the welfare work lie. It leaves me more than disinclined to doubt just about anything he says, or that is said about him that is meant to paint him in a “nice” light.
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:52 pm
Bro
Add one more thing, I don’t even think the individual actually believes that the issue is one sided and it fully aware of the facts and history.
The need to be contrary to Jay and the left leaning bloggers drove the doubling, tripling and quadrupling down to deflect from what Lindsey Graham had said about “angry white males”.
We all have our days and moments, just shocked me a little that this individual would just keep it going and going, with numerous bloggers and you were one of them.
Oh well.
have a great weekend
catch up next week
They BOTH suck
August 31st, 2012
5:52 pm
actuary……… wtf?
actually
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:53 pm
“It leaves me more than disinclined to doubt ”
Oops! “inclined to to doubt”!
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
5:55 pm
Time for dinner!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
6:01 pm
Doggone
I think that’s the one that pushed me over the edge as well. I find it funny as the more I try to look at the GOP as a viable party, the more they turn me off. I’ve seen other opinion writers discuss the idea that the Romney campaign is going to bring changes to future campaigns in how they push lies with no reputable media calling their bluff or pointing out the lies.
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They BOTH
I’m with you now. I think people post her sometimes just for the sake of starting crap. It’s childish, but then again, we’re sometimes surrounded by people who’s IQ appears to be lower than the favorability rating of Congress. Enjoy your weekend.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
6:01 pm
Everybody have a safe weekend…
Deal Aint No Deal....CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
6:28 pm
@That Black Guy
August 31st, 2012
5:15 pm
Deal Aint No Deal….CONS Have Been Stabbed In The Back.
August 31st, 2012
5:01 pm
You PEOPLE are arguing about race.
DEAL JUST STABBED MOST OF YOU IN THE BACK.
ARGUE ABOUT THAT.
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH CAN YOU?
__________________________________
Why are you YELLING?
***********************************************************************************
Whose yelling?
That is your perception.
The Bible says in Proverbs 3:27, “as a man thinks in his heart, so is he.”
You will eventually become what you think. A YELLER
I am just emphasizing my point.
If you are that SENSITIVE you NEED to SEE a THERAPIST.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
6:33 pm
Oh look, it’s Ol’ Yeller.
A Wagging Tongue Bites Itself
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
@Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
6:33 pm
Oh look, it’s Ol’ Yeller.
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Its not NICE to talk about yo mama.
Boy you need Jesus and a THERAPIST.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
9:42 pm
Sock-puppets.
Caroline
August 31st, 2012
10:53 pm
I am a die hard Republican … Deal will not be re-elected! He will not make it as a Congressman, either!
He’s fried, he’s a cooked goose, he’s toast. He’s done – not well done, but DONE in GA politics!
Mary Elizabeth
August 31st, 2012
11:21 pm
“He (Deal) has chosen loyalty to party, declining to let Georgia participate in the expansion of Medicaid coverage offered through Obamacare. The result will be unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death. That may sound harsh, but it is also stark reality. . .
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Thank you for shining a bright and bold light on this callous “sin.” Man’s inhumanity to man must always be seen for exactly what it is.
Paddy O
September 1st, 2012
3:18 am
how many of these “need” folks want it?
Paddy O
September 1st, 2012
3:19 am
the bleeding heart liberals have heard the call of the gullible. IF these folks NEED insurance, get a bloody job.
Paddy O
September 1st, 2012
3:19 am
caroline – I doubt the sincerety of what you posted.
Paddy O
September 1st, 2012
3:25 am
be careful when liberals attempt to downplay the cost of their cherished gov’t charity. when they discuss miniscule % of GDP; as opposed to the increased cost per tax payer. You will also see liberals animated by statistics in aggregate; this way spending huge amounts of cash to improve a problem in . 0001 of a way seems logical to them.
Mary Elizabeth
September 1st, 2012
8:33 am
The bottom 43% of Americans, related to their class status, will not be able to move upward, out of their inherited class status. Likewise, the top 40% of Americans, related to their class status, will not fall below their inherited class status. Moreover, this has been true for the last TWO DECADES, at least, in America.
In other words, class mobilitiy is coming to an end in America. This lack of upward mobility is same situation that existed in Great Britain and Europe when America’s founders fled their situation of lack of upper mobility there – more than three centuries ago.
I just heard this data from Chris Hayes on his Saturday show, “Up.” Moreover, Hayes said that President Obama did not create this situation in his 3 short years as U. S. President, in spite of the falsehoods that Republicans are trying to communicate about his administration’s policies related to this lack of upward mobility. Watch out for Republican duplicity – it seems that Republicans have become committed to perpetuating duplicity and deceit in order to fool the public, to gain power through appealing to the public’s biases. Don’t be fooled. Protect American upward mobility and egalitarianism – those values on which this nation was formed. When Republicans talked about their families’ rise from poverty to wealth at the Republican Convention, they were usually talking about their ancestors’ upward mobility, not their own, in that they had been born into wealth – the recipients of this past upward mobility, themselves – not the creators of it for future generations of Americans, according to Hayes’ observation.
Vote the Democratic ticket in November. Be aware.
henryh
September 2nd, 2012
1:09 pm
Jay -
I’m surprised that those who read the Bible and follow the teachings of Jesus want to deny health care to the poor in the most efficient way possible. Governor Scrooge — I mean, Deal – should be ashamed of himself.
Papacita
September 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
Thank you for taking a stand against the stupidity of Obamacare tax Mr. Governor. God bless you.
Gov. Deal chooses party loyalty over Ga. citizenry | Georgia Budget and Policy Institute
September 4th, 2012
9:33 am
[...] GBPI Director of Health Policy Tim Sweeney is quoted in Jay Bookman’s blog on Deal’s decision to reject Medicaid expansion for the state of Georgia. Read full article here. [...]
nomaj
September 4th, 2012
11:00 pm
Shame on you, Governor Deal. This was the act of a coward, not a leader.