Gov. Deal chooses party loyalty over Ga. citizenry
Gov. Nathan Deal faced a choice. He could choose to be loyal to his party’s political ideology, or he could choose to be loyal to some 650,000 of his fellow Georgians in need of health insurance.
He has chosen loyalty to party, declining to let Georgia participate in the expansion of Medicaid coverage offered through Obamacare. The result will be unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death. That may sound harsh, but it is also stark reality: When you deny health -care coverage to hundreds of thousands of people, as Deal has decided to do, those outcomes are inevitable.
There will be other consequences as well. The decision blocks an influx of billions and billions of federal health -care dollars — an estimated $14.5 billion between 2014 and 2019 alone — that would provoke significant job growth. Georgia taxpayers will be paying to fund that expanded coverage in other states, most of which will take it eagerly, but their governor has decided that they’ll get none of the benefits.
Turning that money away will also raise the risk of closure by rural hospitals, which are already struggling under the financial burden of providing so much care to the uninsured. (Last year, Georgia hospitals lost an estimated $1.5 billion caring for people without insurance, and rural residents are more likely to be uninsured than their urban and suburban counterparts.)
Medicaid expansion would have been a lifesaver to those hospitals and to the doctors who practice there, but that lifesaver has now been yanked away. That will have significant economic-development implications for Georgia beyond the immediate loss of federal dollars. The availability of modern health -care facilities is a prime consideration for any business or industry looking to relocate. As rural hospitals close and doctors leave, employers will leave as well, taking with them the last hope of prosperity for many small communities.
In announcing his decision at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Deal cited the potential cost to Georgia taxpayers, which his administration estimates at $4.5 billion over a 10-year period. However, independent cost estimates put the state’s share of expansion much lower. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates it at $714 million for the first five years of the program, or roughly 0.17 percent of state GDP. The Urban Institute puts it at $716 million for the first six years.
However, as Tim Sweeney of the Georgia Budget and Policy Institute points out, even the governor’s figure of $4.5 billion “would represent only a 1.9 percent increase in total state spending.”
In assessing the costs, you also have to look at two other things: How great is the need for expanded health coverage in Georgia, and how much does the state already spend? Are we already spending as much if not more than other states?
Hardly. Georgia is 47th in state health spending per capita. It is 49th in the amount it spends per Medicaid patient. Twenty percent of our citizens are uninsured, the fifth-highest uninsured rate in the nation, and we stand at 39th in life expectancy. Yet according to the governor, we can’t afford to address any of those issues, even if it means a stronger state economy and better health care and longer lives for hundreds of thousands of Georgians.
We can, however, afford hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new Falcons stadium, not to mention billions of dollars in tax breaks to businesses. Priorities, you know.
– Jay Bookman
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Peadawg
August 31st, 2012
2:02 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/both-republicans-democrats-distorting-truth-medicare-factcheck-org-145223432.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:02 pm
iBS Aplenty
‘Nuff said.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
I don’t think I would have verified my financial statements with people I might on a blog though.
Doom: I haven’t. But if you know my name and know how to google it’s easy to get close numbers lol. Unfortunately my name is fairly unique so I pop right up when it’s googled. As does my wife. LOl I just checked her name, she is the whole first page of Google. Then I get to the white pages and it says there are 2 people named _____________ in the US.One in Texas and one in Georgia.
Besides, without knowing exact numbers, you can visit someone and know if they live in a trailer park or a decent neighborhood……….
getalife
August 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
Ivan,
The key word is jobs.
I guess you missed it.
Went over your head..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:06 pm
Obama: “The Affirmative Action President”
“Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job?
Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer”; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote “present”); and finally an unaccomplished single term in United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as legislator.
And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?
Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:
To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2011/08/obama_the_affirmative_action_president.html
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:08 pm
Fred,
I may have to talk to my accountant cause I still can’t figure out for the life of me how you only pay 9%. Your wife’s income is ordinary income so again that puts you at or near the top marginal tax bracket. The math still doesn’t make any sense as to how you could have enough tax losses through your company to offset your wife’s earnings and reduce your rate all the way down to 9%. You using Mitt’s accountant?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
To be sure, no white…
There’s your sign.
Rabbit hole.
Ed Preston
August 31st, 2012
2:10 pm
Jay Bookman is so wrong. It shows that he is one of those that follow the lead of the liberal media even when the media “got it wrong”. Study and think and you will agree with Gov. Deal.
iBS Aplenty
August 31st, 2012
2:10 pm
…apologies, I got carried away and used a bad word. I take back the “ObamaCare” reference (ha-ha-ha…..)
Soothsayer
August 31st, 2012
2:11 pm
Obesity is a “growing” problem:
Here is a great interactive piece regarding obesity in America. Believe it or not obesity is a relatively new phenomenon in America. Click “animate” to view.
And, now this:
What could possibly be the cause of this dramatic increase in obesity in just the last few years?
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:11 pm
Rabbit hole.
Scout is barely able to scratch out a pothole with that stuff he posts.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
2:12 pm
“You using Mitt’s accountant?”
At least he saw his tax returns.
“You people” do not.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
2:12 pm
St Simons
I fell ya
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:13 pm
Thulsa: I don’t know lol. I’m an S-corp so the company losses are deducted from our joint tax return. my accountant does my company and then our personal return and we sign it and wait for the money to come back. I never really checked for percentage before this year, just looked at how much we were paying. But when I looked at the figure this year I was like WHAT? That can’t be right. That’s less than 10 percent. But it was right. Now my wife is back in school for her doctorate and I think we can deduct THAT money and I’m going to go back to school in January and I know we can deduct that money as it will be “training” for my new Computer Company.
I wouldn’t be surprised (if they keep the taxes like they are now) if we end up paying less than 5% on gross income next year. Maybe even 0% depending on the start up costs of the computer business. I haven’t decided which route to take.
b-troll
August 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
this is just awesome. 235 mpg….. production next year. VW.
http://speedlux.com/2013-volkswagen-xl1/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
What could possibly be the cause of this dramatic increase in obesity in just the last few years?
Corn syrup?
Yep, but I would also guess that growth hormones injected into our protein sources also factor in.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
Clint’s 4th movie in the series – ‘Every Which Way but Lucid”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
“Bernanke: Fed Must Do More On Unemployment… Awful Jobs Market A ‘Grave Concern’ … ”
Thanks Obama.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:16 pm
Rabbit hole? I don’t think rabbits start digging in that sewage that Brave Sir Digits posts. I do worry whether the county sewage system can handle the volume from his home. That is almost solid cake to start with…. doesn’t flow well in the system.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:16 pm
St. Simons: If you’ll remember,the last time we were down that way, it was raining like all bejeebers so when we left, we just drove straight on home.
I’m hoping to get back down there. Having been to Amelia Island and Hilton Head for the first time ever this past summer, I’m anxious to check out your little island paradise as well. WHat would be sweet is if my wife had a conference there like she did at Amelia. Then it would be a virtually FREE ‘vacation.” LOL You and i could drink beer and fish while she was off conferencing…….
getalife
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
We get it scout.
We know you are a racist.
Give it a rest racist.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
I wonder how many SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! are obese?
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
“Besides, without knowing exact numbers, you can visit someone and know if they live in a trailer park or a decent neighborhood……….”
Yes and no. Got a close personal friend that was doing real well and then his business went south. He got foreclosed on his $2 million dollar house, sold his ferrari at a huge loss, had a porsche that he sold at a big loss also. Basically he lost everything but like a fool he was living beyond his means. And then I do business with another man whose uncle lives in a double wide trailer. The uncle has over 2 million dollars but he is happy in his trailer. He bought it when he was just starting out and just never wanted to move. I’ve seen a few people in million dollar homes get evicted. Happens all the time. And lately it seems like there is always some athlete or big time entertainer declaring bankruptcy or getting foreclosed on. Its remarkable.
Anyway, I was asking because I’m not quite there yet but at the rate that I’m going I will be in that high bracket where I’ve got to get my taxes substantially reduced. No mortgage though, no car payments, cash in the bank with no debt owed so in that regards I’m fine but I don’t have the 7 figures yet. Not even close.
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
These people are so fixated on the president as if he were a CEO and could do as he pleased, it’s the congress who writes laws; always was and always will be. With major losers such as mitch mcconnell and the boehner dude, it’s quite clear where the real failure is…
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Fred I do not know who you are but you make some valid points!! You have a cheerleader on this end!!
Soothsayer
August 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
Kam: that may be the case, but, given the information in the second chart, I think that it would be hard to deny a causal relationship between HFCS and obesity.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day.”
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
The numerologist sure doesn’t like black people.
And is very proud to demonstrate his obsession with them every day of his robed life here…
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
What could possibly be the cause of this dramatic increase in obesity in just the last few years?
I dunno about anyone else, but I quit doing carpenter work to take care of my daughter but i forgot to quit drinking beer and “forgot” to start working out. Without the hard physical labor every day, those empty calories turned into a big belly and a fat ass. I realized one day I hadn’t seen my feet in 3 years lol. Last time I went to the beach someone tried to harpoon me. I decided then I needed to diet so here I am. Eating freaking salads and drinking Odouls……….
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
Fred, So its your wife’s money. Moocher!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:23 pm
Trouble in Paradise:
Washington Post:
“Just days before a congressional deadline, the Obama administration is deeply divided over whether to designate the Pakistan-based Haqqani network as a terrorist group, with some officials worried that doing so could complicate efforts to restart peace talks with the Taliban and undermine already-fraught relations with Pakistan.
Early this month, Congress gave Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton 30 days to determine whether the Haqqani group, considered the most lethal opponent of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, meets the criteria for designation — a foreign organization engaging in terrorist activity that threatens U.S. citizens or national security.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-administration-divided-over-designating-haqqani-network-as-terrorist-group/2012/08/31/48f046f8-f2d4-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_story.html?hpid=z1
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:23 pm
0311
Damn – you really are just stuck on it…have you ever conceded how many jobs were lost by the time the previous president thankfully left in jan 09? How was jesus judged by hanging out with the dregs of jerusalem in his day? Crucified…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:24 pm
“The Affirmative Action President”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:25 pm
“Off and Running: Romney Hits Trail
With Message of ‘Jobs… Lots of Jobs’ … “
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:25 pm
Sooth
What I’m saying is there is no one cause.
I think it was Doggone/Ga that brought up her consumption of a certain soft drink. When it was manufactured using HFCS she craved it almost as an addict. I believe she said she switched to a non HFCS based soft drink and her consumption decreased.
So yes, manufacturers have a vested interest to use HFCS especially if it encourages consumers to ingest more of it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
“To be sure, no
whiteVP candidate whohad close associations withwas married to an outspoken hater of Americalike Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayerswould have lasted a single day.”Fixed that.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
10) During a July campaign stop in Virginia referring to American businesses: “YOU DIDN’T BUILD THAT!”
9) “I suspect that most people in Cincinnati would acknowledge that I’VE TRIED REAL HARD ………. ” (Democrat House for two years and Senate for four).
7.99) To the American people regarding the Gulf Oil Crisis: ““I can’t suck it up with a straw”!
7) To the American people: “It’s absolutely not a tax increase !” http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/obama-campaign-its-a-penalty-not-a-tax-127721.html
6) To the American people: “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this Presidency.”
5) To Larry King: “There has been a tendency by this administration to hide behind executive privilege.”
4) Speech to an Hispanic group: “With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case ………. ”
3) To the American people: “The private sector is doing just fine.”
2) Please pass to Vladimir: “After the election I’ll have more flexibility.” http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=-Czo5Vf8KZs
1) To the American electorate: “If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
BINGO !!
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:27 pm
Anybody can talk jobs but coming from a job destroyer, it’s a bit of a stretch or just a bain in the azz…
Larry
August 31st, 2012
2:27 pm
Governor Deal chooses political gamesmanship over the health, welfare and lives of Georgians.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
Oh noes. We’re going down the path of racial discord again.
Is there anybody on here who like Doomy is also opposed to institutional racism? Raise your hand if you oppose institutional racism!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
“The word ‘racism’ is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything – and demanding evidence makes you a ‘racist.’ ”
Thomas Sowell
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
DannyX,
Believe me, we Republicans want you and everyone at the convention to mention Bush Bush Bush. I know it’s just like JamVet and Jay so often do, stabbing at phantoms of racists, bigots and “corporate” whatevers. It’s a self-evasion from reality, and I like the democrat chances for losing so long as there is one republican party that acknowledges what is real and one democrat party that pretends what is illusory is real.
The more you guys ignore the real issues and the more you pretend your opponents are something they’re not, the more you look out of touch.
Republicans, at least, change with the demands of the times. With you guys, it’s just racists and “corporate” whatevers at every single turn.
Tell me Danny, what kind of government do you get, when you elect Democrats based on nothing but declaring war on their political enemies–the non-existent racist rich christians? Hint: Fidel Castro is still doing the same kind of demonizing Obama does.
The more you mention Bush, the more undecided people will realize that Democrats are just off-rocker here. I say “yes, you can.”
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
This is the hypocrisy of the Obama Administration…. And he ought to be voted out just for this. Having a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured…. but not everyone must prove they are a citizen….. And many who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens……..
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
0311,
Before I die I’d like to meet Thomas Sowell. No conservative in my lifetime has been so influential to me–not Buckley, not Reagan, not Steyn. Maybe Chesterton.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
Scout,
Once again i have to ask you what could have president Obama done about unemployment without the help of Congress or Business? Is The President just your boogie man? Where is the respect for the Office you swore to protect?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Ooops !
“President Barack Obama was today forced to announce he will fly to storm-hit Louisiana on Monday – hours after Mitt Romney beat him to the punch by deciding to head there this afternoon.
After it emerged that Obama was still taking time to fit in a campaign stop in Cleveland, Ohio before checking out how clean-up operations are proceeding in the Bayou state, the Obama campaign abruptly cancelled that event.
‘In light of the President’s travel to Louisiana to meet with local officials and view ongoing response and recovery efforts to Hurricane Isaac, President Obama will no longer travel to Cleveland, Ohio on Monday, September 3,’ the campaign said in a terse statement.
Romney had changed his schedule to head to an affected town outside New Orleans while Obama, who has yet to visit the Tropical Storm Isaac zone, headed off to Texas to campaign.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2196389/Mitt-Romney-heads-storm-hit-Louisiana-President-Obama-hits-campaign-trail.html#ixzz259MY77J4
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Fred, if ‘Georgia’ doesn’t stop its seemingly determined quest to
out-Somalia Somalia, we’re gonna soon be residents of Amelia.
That’s our fav beach of all the barrier islands.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
And still you don’t think “Papers, Please” is wrong? What a hoot!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
Hmmmm…. so now “institutionalized racism” is bad unless of course its directed at one group of voters…then the PA is a great defender with lies.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
See “2016″ !!!
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Bush III wants to fire somebody. He ain’t worried about the poor.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
“Limbaugh: Clint got under Obama’s skin”
Ooops ! Two more racists.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
Let’s see, what are those characters that would fix scouts list.
How about 8)
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
Fred, So its your wife’s money. Moocher!
+++++++++++++++++++++++
That would be SMOOCHER (if ya know what I mean ;D ).
We aren’t at 7 figures yet either Doomy, but for you, as a single taxpayer, with no major deductions, including house payment, you ARE paying my “fair share” of the taxes lol. Thanks. If I ever see you, I’ll buy you a beer. Will that make us even? I mean we get the college fund for the child tax break, the Roth, the 401, house, now honey’s college, my business, flexible spending……… I don’t know hwta all we get, that’s why I pay the accountant. But whatever he does is legit because he’s been doing it for us almost 20 years and never any blowback. LOL and he does it all for $350.
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
Yep.
Okay scout. Type “8‍)” for 8)
Hopefully I typed that correctly.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
Scout, Obamabarrassment,
Like I said. I oppose institutional racism. You would have thought those racist pigs in Fulton county would have learned when they discriminated against the librarians several years back. Clearly they did not. Sad that this kind of bigotry in employment still exists.
From today’s AJC
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/jury-fulton-discriminated-againt-white-male-job-ap/nRPnf/
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
You know what?
I have gotten REAL deep into the embarrassment’s head. (Sadly, I own the kid…)
My gawd, all you KKKonservatives do is talk about black people!
How lazy they are, how entitled they are, how they are too stupid to join your Lily White Party. How they will nevr leave the plantation. How they live for Food Stamps. And on and on and on and on and on.
In some ways, it is hard to fault you, I suppose.
You never fell far from your deeply racist, arch-conservative, southern Baptist roots that your parents and families came from. (Don’t shoot the messenger.)
Wow, speaking of embarrassments, embarrassment, I just watched Clint’s “speech”.
What a train wreck.
His legacy now will forever be tied to that bizarre, semi-lucid and somewhat vulgar performance.
Which is a real shame, because aside from the staged madness last night, he seems a decent guy…
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
Hey Ronald Reagan Parkway: Thanks. I used to live up that way, back when they were just finishing RR Parkway. We lived off Five Forks Trickum. We moved ITP just as the Gwinnett Arena was getting finished and all those good places to eat moved into Lawrenceville
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:38 pm
0311,
You’re right of course about the associations. What we got in Romney was actually a hyper-decent human being, despite the fact that most of us conservatives wanted something else.
The pendulum does not swing both ways however, because Democrat nominee’s stories don’t have to be told at convention. They are carried for free by the media, in glowing analyses and ubiquitous puff pieces.
I noticed criticism last night on CNN, wherein Anderson Cooper (would he have gerbils JamVet?) criticized Romney for not telling his story. For being either too proud or too humble, (or both) Republicans may be criticized openly. For Democrats to be criticized they need to be…..well, we’re still waiting for CNN to criticize the President for something substantial.
Remember, the open advocacy of the liberal press began 30 years ago with Reagan. Succeeding Jimmy Carter, Reagan was the apparent creator of a heretofore unreported enormous homeless problem.
HDB
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
“The word ‘racism’ is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything – and demanding evidence makes you a ‘racist.’ ”
Thomas Sowell
When Kevin Phillips, the architect of Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” comes out ans says “black people have NO PLACE in the GOP”, what would you call that?? When Lee Atwater, Ken Mehlman and Michael Steele PUBLICALLY stated that that is the GOP’s modus operandi…..what would you call it??
Try this link, go to “The racial, ethnic composition of the GOP”….and start from the 1:50 mark: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46979738/ns/msnbc-up_with_chris_hayes/
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
2:40 pm
“I believe she said she switched to a non HFCS based soft drink and her consumption decreased”
Yes, that was me. When I drink regular Mountain Dew, sweetened with HFCS, I gradually increase how many cans I drink per day. When they brought out MD Throwback, sweetened with cane suger, I drink 2 cans a day and only 2 cans a day
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
I guess you folks love ole mitt since he’s the only girl left at closing time.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Obambarrassment / Thulsa:
I hear you ………… but have to run for awhile so you guys take the point.
Obambarrassment
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Today’s Arguing with Idiots Post from JamVet:
My gawd, all you KKKonservatives do is talk about black people!
How lazy they are, how entitled they are, how they are too stupid to join your Lily White Party. How they will nevr leave the plantation. How they live for Food Stamps. And on and on and on and on and on.
In some ways, it is hard to fault you, I suppose.
You never fell far from your deeply racist, arch-conservative, southern Baptist roots that your parents and families came from. (Don’t shoot the messenger.)
Wow, speaking of embarrassments, embarrassment, I just watched Clint’s “speech”.
What a train wreck.
His legacy now will forever be tied to that bizarre, semi-lucid and somewhat vulgar performance.
Talk about vulgarity! –and straw men.
Good luck.
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Normal Free. I just want our elected President, who took an oath, to obey and enforce the laws on the books. This president is suing states trying to protect it’s citizens, while not enforcing the laws. No spin here. Just facts.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
HDB:
Yawn ………………………
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
Yeah, someone needs to take the point, the other guy is in full retreat…
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
“But whatever he does is legit because he’s been doing it for us almost 20 years and never any blowback. LOL and he does it all for $350.”
Fred,
You getting off cheap. A friend that was in the same business as the one that got foreclosed on closed down his business before things turned and got out completely. He made millions before he quit though. The accountant he introduced me to charges reasonably for pikers like myself. But my buddy had paid him 20k in accounting fees to keep him legal and reduce his burden. And leave some money on the table. I leave plenty on the table. I could legally write off crazy amounts of mileage but my accountant told me he won’t do it because it raises a red flag. Its just not worth it even though I’m legally entitled to it. Like you and him I also have a Subchapter S.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
What did I miss? What laws are you talking about?
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
ghost
Politics my friend, the previous guy chose which laws to ignore also, you know, to the victor goes the spoils. You might not like it but that is american politics…
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
BTW, watch that semi-lucid performance of Eastwood’s.
When they pan the crowd, you will notice something very, very obvious.
Out of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people there, you will not see ONE black face.
Seriously. Maybe you cons can point one out to me.
Maybe they were in the kitchen? Or maybe in the very last row? I couldn’t tell.
Now, granted that was also the exact same case in 2008 and 2004 and 2000 and 1996 and 1992 and 1988 and 1984 and 1980 and….
You get the idea…
Doggone/GA
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
“I just want our elected President, who took an oath, to obey and enforce the laws on the books”
Better join us in the real world. There has never been, and never will be, a time when EVERY law is enforced 100%. Never. There are always going to be people in the loop with the ability to make a judgement call on when to enforce something and when it’s not worth the effort, time and money.
Unless, of course, you’re willing ot pay a HELL of a lot more in taxes to hire the people to DO the investigating and the court appearences.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
Embarrassment, let me guess, some of your best friends are black people.
LOL…
Segregation Yesterday! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation Forever!!!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
HDB,
Since you like to whine about race perhaps you would like to comment on the blatant racists running Fulton county in the link that I posted above. Have at it. I look forward to hearing your righteous indignation at the racism in Fulton County.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:47 pm
This president is suing states trying to protect it’s citizens, while not enforcing the laws. No spin here. Just facts.
Not intended to be a factual statement…. The conned just don’t seem to understand that if its not true, its not a “fact”.
Seems to be lost on the GOP…. of course, look at Eastwood. “We don’t need lawyers in the WH”…. Anyone know what year Mitt got his law degree from the same school that Obama went to?
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
Carvel’s polling out today. It ain’t good for Barry. Now, polls on here to these loons only matter when their man looks good. The bad news is it’s still a electoral college event and that is in the Kings favor, but closing. Too many things have to line up for Mitt to unseat this guy. The polls are not good for Barry though. Can’t answer the state by state polling. It’s been a steady decline for Barry since Ryan came on……..But they will show you a MSNBC poll in a minute showing Barry up by 15……………………………………9,8,7,6………..any second now
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Great photo from Clint’s speech
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Reckon who gonna give speeches next week ?
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
ghost
Don’t fret, republican governors and state houses are doing everything humanly possible to suppress the vote. So breathe easier they are trying to level the playing field for an upset…
Julia
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Well, of course he does, that is a given. the 99% can disappear under bridges or cardboard boxes, fend for ourselves, die on the streets, go hungry, without access to ANY type of medical assistance. Just so long at the top 1% can continue taking more & more. but this is what the people voted for, or some of them, not all of us are that blinded by hatred. what i can’t understand is why people repeatedly vote against their own best interests.
skydog
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
I have been out been getting the drums set up for the jam.
What`s all this gooie stuff all over the walls?
One of um heads explode or something?
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
“Segregation Yesterday! Segregation Tomorrow! Segregation Forever!!!”
JamVet,
Did you know that it was the black vote that helped put George Wallace back into office in 1982? Its an interesting footnote in history but he got over a third of the black vote to regain the governorship.
Reagans ghost
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
Alabama, S. Carolina and Arizona have been challenged,sued etc over their immigration policy.
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
“To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day.”
Why does one have to repost such utter bullcrap, especially when it’s so friggin’ wrong? Well, you’re right, they didn’t last a single day, they served their entire terms.
Why not talk about previous president with ties to the KKK? Is it because they were White and they had close associations with people that only hated N******S and not America as a whole? I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe this country will start to heal then.
Mick
August 31st, 2012
2:54 pm
Clint fooled everybody real good…he said it was halftime 6 months ago and he meant it, score one for dirty harry and his sabotage mission on live tv. Well, do you feel lucky mitt?
JOE COOL............
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
Funniest line I heard all day:
“Mitt Romney couldn’t create 12 million jobs… even if he brought slavery back…. “
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
350? oh hell to the no
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
Doggone/GA
I apologize if I offended you in any way by recounting your story.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm
Yo Skydog? Where’s your band playing this weekend? Keep us posted if you don’t mind. One day I’ll actually get a chance to go see you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
Off to find The Blues!
skydog
August 31st, 2012
2:58 pm
Pretty good beat down for a vegetation Fred.
Here is one from skydog on your left flank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-5XgI244xo
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
Why not talk about previous president with ties to the KKK? Is it because they were White and they had close associations with people that only hated N******S and not America as a whole? I’m so tired of hearing this bigoted crap. I’ll be glad when none of you bigots are able to use a single molecule of oxygen. Maybe this country will start to heal then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP6v4T3VT7I
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
On Wednesday, more Americans tuned in to watch the reality TV show “Honey Boo Boo Child” than the republican convention.
LOL!!!!!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
Fred
Only you could do that!!
That’s going to my bookmarks for later use.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
LOL Skydog, ummmm thanks. Which one? I seemed to have had a couple of “spats” today.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
Romney will win only if those most wealthy can find a way – any way – to steal the election. Maybe it is through illegal “laws” (see Ohio), maybe it is through spending so much money on TV commercials to brain wash people (see how much the republicans have raised), or whatever.
Thinking middle class Americans are sick of the republican tricks, lies, and twisting of truth.
Mick
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
fred
You can lose the weight and you will feel terrific but….there’s no getting around it, sacrifice you must and be patient. No more junk snacks, no more pizza, no more fatty cakes, no more chocolate. Exercise is the key and you need to get into it, addicted to it, get high on it. In 90 days you will look like a completely new human being and a funny thing will happen, when you decide to have one of those junk snacks you more than likely will spit it out because the taste just isn’t the same – good luck!
Brosephus™
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
btw…
If anybody’s offended by my post @ 2:54, that was not my intent. However, I will not sit idly by as bs get’s tossed around like Mardi Gras beads. You would think that a country that prides itself on it’s exceptionalism would be able to deal with any and all issues as adults. Howver, we know that stores sell Depends™ by the box, so there’s obviously a market for diaper-wearing adults.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
uh-oh
Where’s da bump?
http://www.electoral-vote.com