Gov. Deal chooses party loyalty over Ga. citizenry
Gov. Nathan Deal faced a choice. He could choose to be loyal to his party’s political ideology, or he could choose to be loyal to some 650,000 of his fellow Georgians in need of health insurance.
He has chosen loyalty to party, declining to let Georgia participate in the expansion of Medicaid coverage offered through Obamacare. The result will be unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death. That may sound harsh, but it is also stark reality: When you deny health -care coverage to hundreds of thousands of people, as Deal has decided to do, those outcomes are inevitable.
There will be other consequences as well. The decision blocks an influx of billions and billions of federal health -care dollars — an estimated $14.5 billion between 2014 and 2019 alone — that would provoke significant job growth. Georgia taxpayers will be paying to fund that expanded coverage in other states, most of which will take it eagerly, but their governor has decided that they’ll get none of the benefits.
Turning that money away will also raise the risk of closure by rural hospitals, which are already struggling under the financial burden of providing so much care to the uninsured. (Last year, Georgia hospitals lost an estimated $1.5 billion caring for people without insurance, and rural residents are more likely to be uninsured than their urban and suburban counterparts.)
Medicaid expansion would have been a lifesaver to those hospitals and to the doctors who practice there, but that lifesaver has now been yanked away. That will have significant economic-development implications for Georgia beyond the immediate loss of federal dollars. The availability of modern health -care facilities is a prime consideration for any business or industry looking to relocate. As rural hospitals close and doctors leave, employers will leave as well, taking with them the last hope of prosperity for many small communities.
In announcing his decision at the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Deal cited the potential cost to Georgia taxpayers, which his administration estimates at $4.5 billion over a 10-year period. However, independent cost estimates put the state’s share of expansion much lower. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates it at $714 million for the first five years of the program, or roughly 0.17 percent of state GDP. The Urban Institute puts it at $716 million for the first six years.
However, as Tim Sweeney of the Georgia Budget and Policy Institute points out, even the governor’s figure of $4.5 billion “would represent only a 1.9 percent increase in total state spending.”
In assessing the costs, you also have to look at two other things: How great is the need for expanded health coverage in Georgia, and how much does the state already spend? Are we already spending as much if not more than other states?
Hardly. Georgia is 47th in state health spending per capita. It is 49th in the amount it spends per Medicaid patient. Twenty percent of our citizens are uninsured, the fifth-highest uninsured rate in the nation, and we stand at 39th in life expectancy. Yet according to the governor, we can’t afford to address any of those issues, even if it means a stronger state economy and better health care and longer lives for hundreds of thousands of Georgians.
We can, however, afford hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new Falcons stadium, not to mention billions of dollars in tax breaks to businesses. Priorities, you know.
– Jay Bookman
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Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
August 31st, 2012
12:44 pm
Tom,
I don’t know? Tough guy? A man who brings up pee wee’s and weiners can’t be all that tough…Typical Air Force, I guess…
P.S.:
Sorry jam
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
People that berate an 82 yr old man are wussies as far as I am concerned.
But people who berate a young woman like Sandra Fluke are brave and honorable?
Despite the drama queen reactions (including the usually drama queen reaction from the queen PA), I have seen no one berating Eastwood personally. They are critiquing his bizzare presentation. But would it make you feel better if we just called him names about being promicuous or something similar.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred “It would be like you refusing to take tax deductions out of “principal.”
Isn’t that exactly what you tools whining about Romney’s 13% tax rate are expecting? Blaming him for only paying 13% as if it was him who wrote the tax code. Let me tell you all something liberals, Obama paid the exact same tax rate Romney did on the same classifications of income and this BS about Obama or somebody’s secretary paying more in taxes is a LIE. If you’re too stupid to get that, you are exactly the person the lie is intended to persuade.
Al
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
Anyone who is fiscally conservative and socially moderate/liberal may actually enjoy this video. It says what most of us in the center have wanted to say at one point or another in the last few years. Pretty sure I’ll be blasted by someone, if not all of you – but I’m sure at least most of you will agree with one point or another. It may be fiction, but again, it says something a lot of moderates have been thinking for quite some time. http://youtu.be/yGAvwSp86hY
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
Yes, we can…
I didn’t waste my time reading on embarrassed one, but my advice is:
Air Iran is ready when you and your pocket gerbils are.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
“MSNBC: The Obama administration is now pivoting to JO(BS), JO(BS), JO(BS)!”
Now THASS funny. Especially after 42 straight months of record shattering unemployment above 8%.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
(Last year, Georgia hospitals lost an estimated $1.5 billion caring for
people without insurance….)
we dam sure did, and this douchebag wants you to pass up
$5 billion because you have to pay $700 million.
Typical stupid ass Republican bidness decision
in the blind obsession of driving over the ideological
wingnut cliff.
And this isn’t all of it. mrsstsimons had to lay off 6 MORE clinicians
in the mental health depts. Yes, Georgia – these patients will soon be
wandering your streets untreated, and somebody or whole groups of
people will be living in squalor, abuse, and maybe killed by people that
‘the party of no responsibility’ don’t want to mess with.
Please dear God Georgia, can somebody STOP THE STUPID?
Does your stupid ass-backward wingnut ideology mean so much to you
that you don’t care if you de-stabilize the civilization?
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
“Even, none of the cons are reporting – certainly in in any cogent, detailed or specific way – about what Flip and Eddie had to say.”
Yep JamVet, the big “mystery speaker” that had Republicans all excited turned out to be a big flop.
Makes you wonder about the judgement of Romney, putting on a stunt like this, in prime time, on their prime night, that turns out to be an embarrassing flop.
This is is an omen, elect Romney at your own risk America.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
It’s OK, brother Normal, he is an embarrassment to the rest of us Airmen!
Go Navy!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
Larry@11:41 – You and I do not normally agree but I’m with you on that post. Clint at 82, his thought process must be wandering, do not think any RNC people had anything to do with that though. Clint’s his own man, no matter what. I apologize for sayin he could still whip your butt, uncalled for comment. Some guy named FRED, wants to take up for you though, you probably can handle your own issues though!
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
12:48 pm
Keep a knockin but ya can’t come in. Keep a knocking but ya can’t come in….
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
Brocephus @ 12:42. I saw that at halftime last night. The funniest thing was that the other team got confused too and TACKLED him before he could score a safety. Or better yet before he crossed the goal line and dropped the ball in the end zone for them to cover for a touch down lol.
larry
August 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
Tom, If i was Clint, i would beat up whoever talked me into doing that skit.
And i am not bereating anyone, but he should have just made a speech and then made way for Mr. Rubio.
And I am not alone in making this assessment..
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
12:51 pm
“Especially after 42 straight months of record shattering unemployment above 8%.”
Bush, the invisible man, lost 3.5 million jobs the last 6 months he was in office. Republicans denial and failure to take responsibility for that mess is the reason Romney and his invisible jobs plan should never occupy the White House.
GT
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
It is not the government it is the people who live in this state. How can you tell me this is the best government we can elect from this state? We have law firms, professors, doctors and accountants that in a blind dart contest could do better than these people but this is who we elect. We get what we deserve. For a small part of my life the city had more qualified mayors than the state had governors. The city got major league sports, airports and … Now both are out for themselves. We allowed it, look at the percent of voters who show up to every election, and most of them are doing no research just voting like it was a bodily function. This generation has destroy the church, marriage, the American family, the earth and a country by being selfish, fat and dumb. Not all of America is like this but enough of us are to make the rest pay for our stupidity.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
Our President had to work around corrupt congress on jobs and will continue to do so.
The fed can act without corrupt congress too so stop giving the gop congress a free pass con liars.
Enough with nothing but lies from you cons.
larry
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
I dont make threats behind a keyboard nor in person. And i dont call people names. If i disagree with them on policy, i make that disagreement known. But that’s it . Thats as far as it goes.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
Health insurance will increase as a result of the shortsighted GOP leaders.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
Fred – I remember you said you were a Marine, what era are you from? I do not want to continue with any pups, you already know I’ve from the Nam era so let me know about you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
Sorry Kamchak,
I don’t live here like so many others.
You don’t have to live here to read through the comments, and Jay’s are easy to pick out since they’re highlighted in bluish gray.
Had you read through them before running off at at the mouth, you would’ve at least been informed,
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Keep
I have no idea bout this infatuation with DragonCon. Evidently it’s a slur about nerds.
larry
August 31st, 2012
12:59 pm
And this isn’t all of it. mrsstsimons had to lay off 6 MORE clinicians
in the mental health depts.
Didn’t the feds get after this state for the way it handled their mental health patients ?
RAMZAD
August 31st, 2012
1:02 pm
This is about Deal and his refusal to admit the benefits of Obamacare into Georgia, and Right Wing mongooses has turned it into a referendum on Obama. They just love hating them some Obama.
RAMZAD
August 31st, 2012
1:02 pm
This is about Deal and his refusal to admit the benefits of Obamacare into Georgia, and Right Wing mongooses have turned it into a referendum on Obama. They just love hating them some Obama.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:02 pm
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred “It would be like you refusing to take tax deductions out of “principal.”
Isn’t that exactly what you tools whining about Romney’s 13% tax rate are expecting?
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So you call me a tool which is another words for a penis and think that’s ok, but If I were to call you a complete freaking moron that would be bad right?
I mean what SHOULD I call someone whois too stupid to know what I think about Romney’s 13% ytax rate? i mean i am on record here MANY TIMES laughing about my own 9% tax rate that I paid last year. I love it home boy. Keep voting me tax cuts and I should be able to get it down to 0%. Or better yet, i can get a check from some hard working middle class worker who makes 1/4 or our household income to help defray the 20 grand I year I pay for private school for my elementary school aged daughter.
Keep voting Republican, I WANT more money to go out to Bones. I LOVE going to concerts and such. We have AWESOME healthcare so I don’t care that Nathan screwed 650,000 fellow Georgians. It doesn’t effect me one bit. Your Republican caused economy crash means my house value went WAY down. As a result my property taxes dropped like a rock. Thanks.
The crappy economy also meant the interest rates went way down as well. I was able to get a loan on my house at 2.75% for ten years which I promptly bought stock with since the stock market was down as well. It’s climbed up and I’ve made a bundle.
I’m LOVING not having to pay the same tax rate as the middle class. But I’m not going to sit here and say it’s RIGHT, because it’s not. It’s a damn travesty.
But I’m gonna suck it up while I can. Because one day, even brain washed right wing fanatics like you are going to get tired of footing the bill for my awesome lifestyle. And I’m not even filthy rich, I’m not even a 1% yet, although if I got a job at McDonald’s the extra income would push us into the one percent. Please, keep telling me how awful I have it and how terrible it is for me to pay 9% in income tax. Oh and grab me another beer while you are up please. As long as you are toting the mail for me I’m sure you won’t mind waiting on me a little.
independent thinker
August 31st, 2012
1:04 pm
Hey fools Massachusetts has gone eight and half billion into US taxpayers pocket with excess Medicaid that we are paying for as Georgia citizens (you will never hear that from Kyle or GOP pom pom throwers) so my question is do you want to subsidize other state’s citizens and let ours eat up local hospital and patient’s dollars under Reagan’s socialized healthcare plan and unfunded mandate called EMTALA or is all that too difficult a concept for all of you to understand?
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:07 pm
Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)
August 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
Fred – I remember you said you were a Marine, what era are you from? I do not want to continue with any pups, you already know I’ve from the Nam era so let me know about you.
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Nope, not a Marine, I have brains. I’m from the era that restored the honor to the military that the Viet Nam era soldiers lost. We are the real soldiers, the ones who willingly made sacrifices for our Country. We didn’t have to be forced. We aren’t the ones who killed fellow soldiers, officers, and civilians while smoking dope and snorting smack. We are the professional soldiers, not the 364 and a wake up ones. Duty Honor and Country are more than words to us. We don’t whine like vam vets.
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
1:09 pm
Clint looked tired, young folks say dumb.
He was acting, thats the deal with President Reagan, he was just acting.
That’s what actors do, act.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:10 pm
“What would Jesus fund?”
A Church.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:10 pm
Don’t hold back Fred, tell him what you really think!
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
When a Republican wants health care, he buys it for himself
See Jay? There’s your solution. Rags for Preznit!
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
I think Clint is the first American to go to the gop convention to tell the gop nominee to go f himself in front of the world.
Thank you Clint Eastwood.
Michael
August 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
And a big congratulations to the feds. The improved flood control system worked. This $14 billion project worked and We Built That! We probably saved a big part of the cost during this one storm.
Regarding Deal, he will handle this the same way the pubs handled the unemployment insurance fund. They gave tax breaks and depleted the fund during good times. Then, when the economy went south they borrowed money from the feds. I’m sure Deal thinks he can go to the feds, when the health care crisis hits Georgia.
If the US was serious about bringing down the cost of healthcare, we would put a big tax on the sweeteners that are making us obese, just like we tax tobacco. We would also require no fault insurance for gun owners, so the taxpayers do not have to pay for the treatment of uninsured victims of gun violence. Also, if the government decides that a fetus is entitled to the rights of personhood, then the government has an obligation to see that the fetus has access to prenatal care.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
larry, there has been an auditor in my wife’s office for more than half
of this fiscal year (ending 9/30/12). No findings on her, just this
stupid state of New Somalia.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
Speaking of that poor poor GOP party just too busy to hate PA tripe:
During a trip to Epcot at Disneyworld, Pennsylvania delegate Mark Harris [R] and his wife were shocked and offended to find a Mexican employee working at the amusement park’s American pavilion, which showcases the different cultures in the United States. According to the couple’s blog, Harris complained to staff that he was “highly offended” that a “person from Mexico” was working in the American pavilion when other nations’ pavilions were staffed by people from each respective country
stands for decibels (SfBA)
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
He has chosen loyalty to party, declining to let Georgia participate in the expansion of Medicaid coverage offered through Obamacare. The result will be unnecessary illness, unnecessary pain and yes, unnecessary death. That may sound harsh, but it is also stark reality
Sad thing is, none our loyal opposition party (that’d be them Democrats) rhetoric will match this for clarity, and it should. But it won’t.
because it’s uncivil to point out that the other party is actually seeking to kill and hurt people for political gain, I guess.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
Steve: “What would Jesus fund?” A Church.
You might want to check that Bible again. Jesus wasn’t much for temples, money changers or churches. Maybe your problem is not reading and comprehending the stories of the Bible.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
1:17 pm
All cats need coverage
Hair balls
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
I think the gop guvs told our President they will do this so Obamacare will fail.
The gop guvs are giving us single payer, they just have not figured it out yet.
Jerome Horwitz
August 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
Hey Kam – About an hour to go until the BLUES kick it off.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
Keep -
Snarky as ever I see. I don’t care…..I still love you. Have an awesome holiday weekend.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
Ummmm Fred, a tool is an instrument one uses to achieve their objective. In this context, you are the tool being USED. Get your mind out of the gutter dude.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
deep breaths….deep breaths
knee-deep in the water somewhere
got the blue sky breeze blowin wind thru my hair
only worry in the world
is the tide gonna reach my chair…..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:20 pm
The gop guvs are giving us single payer, they just have not figured it out yet.
Interesting observation.
Obama plays chess while the GOP plays Candyland.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:21 pm
Steve, if being honest is snark, then you are right….. I am very snarky.
larry
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
No findings on her, just this
stupid state of New Somalia.
I guess the state wants them (the feds) to come down hard on them again.
They’ll never learn. I feel for Mrs. Simmons
Newby
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
JM – I had hair balls once.
Lucky my health insurance covers penicillin.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
St. Simons-
Off Topic- Did they ever build those new hotels on Jekyll Island? I used to visit there about 3 times a year but I haven’t been there in two years. Thanks.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:23 pm
Jerome
Yeah, I am debating whether or not to play hooky from my gardening chores and go to the local watering hole that has FSC.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:24 pm
Keep-
Health and Happiness to you…and let me include Kamchak as well.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
You too Steve.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
J-troll, for the love of gawd please do not tell me that you are going to be a good communist, labor union type and take off Labor Day!!!
If so, shame on you, RINO…
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
RB: Ummmm Fred, a tool is an instrument one uses to achieve their objective. In this context, you are the tool being USED. Get your mind out of the gutter dude.
Well I’ll be damned. I stand corrected. Sorry. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool
Kam: Well I DID hold back a little……… Did you see the USA/PRK women’s U20 game? I missed it dammit. If you DID see it, was it worth watching?
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
“You might want to check that Bible again. Jesus wasn’t much for temples, money changers or churches.”
Keep, its just mind boggling that Steve thinks Jesus would use $300 million to build a church. Jesus defender of the sick and poor would build a church???? That’s right up there with using $300 million tax dollars for a new stadium.
yuzeyurbrane
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
Jay, glad you mentioned Artie Blank’s proposed new pleasure palace. Other priorities are indicated by over $400 million proposed to spend on state financed charter school program, and on voucher type programs for private/parochial schools for $50 million per year while they have gutted traditional public education. I expect Georgia to vote for the football stadium for the Buckhead crowd.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:27 pm
…and let me include Kamchak as well.
“I don’t understand.”
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:28 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:27 pm
…and let me include Kamchak as well.
“I don’t understand.”
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He was wishing health and happiness on you. what’s not to get lol?
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:30 pm
“Keep, its just mind boggling that Steve thinks Jesus would use $300 million to build a church. Jesus defender of the sick and poor would build a church???? That’s right up there with using $300 million tax dollars for a new stadium.”
You have no idea what I think so let me tell you what I think is mind boggling. Where I live there are some gigantic churches, I think it is mind boggling that none of them have some kind of soup kitchen to provide a free lunch or two. I have never even been to the Georgia Dome so the money they spend on a stadium will not be for me.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
1:30 pm
Jefferson
August 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
“Health insurance will increase as a result of the shortsighted GOP leaders.”
No it won’t. Obamacare solved everything and those people will have to purchase health insurance per Obamacare.
“Bush, the invisible man, lost 3.5 million jobs the last 6 months he was in office.”
Danny X do loves his blame Bush card he do. So Danny is W still president???
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:30 pm
Last month, President Obama’s reelection campaign filed a lawsuit claiming that a recently enacted Ohio law eliminating early voting in the three days before an election, except for members of the military, violates the Constitution’s guarantee that all voters enjoy equal access to the franchise. The campaign’s lawsuit called for the right of all voters to cast an early ballot be restored in Ohio — it explicitly stated that expanding the franchise, not taking early voting away from military personnel as well, was the appropriate outcome.
In an opinion by Judge Peter Economus, a federal court agreed with the Obama campaign on Friday that the Ohio anti-voter law must be suspended:
“A citizen has a constitutionally protected right to participate in elections on an equal basis with other citizens in the jurisdiction.” In Ohio, that right to participate equally has been abridged by Ohio Revised Code ‘ 3509.03 and the Ohio Secretary of State’s further interpretation of that statute with regard to in-person early voting. In 2005, Ohio expanded participation in absentee balloting and in-person early voting to include all registered Ohio voters. Now, “in-person early voting” has been redefined by the Ohio legislature to limit Plaintiffs’ access to the polls. This Court must determine whether preliminary injunctive relief should be granted to Plaintiffs on their claim that Ohio’s restriction of in-person early voting deprives them of their fundamental right to vote. Following Supreme Court precedent, this Court concludes that Plaintiffs have stated a constitutional claim that is likely to succeed on the merits. As a result—and as explained below—this Court grants Plaintiffs’ motion for preliminary injunction.
Amusingly, the court’s opinion relies on the Supreme Court’s infamous decision in Bush v. Gore to reach this holding, citing Bush‘s statement that “[h]aving once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the State may not, by later arbitrary and disparate treatment, value one person’s vote over that of another.”
Wonder if Paragraph 12 Denier Recon and the other conned will start whining and lie more about this one.
RB from Gwinnett
August 31st, 2012
1:31 pm
Fred “I’m LOVING not having to pay the same tax rate as the middle class”
That’s a lie, Fred. You ARE paying the same tax rate. You may adjust your EFFECTIVE tax rate by taking more deductions than someone else, but you ARE paying the same rates. And since the Bush tax cuts you all want to whine about were across the board and not only “for the wealthy” as you tools want to claim, those middle class people you mention got a cut too, Fred.
You really aren’t that bright, Fred. I’m glad you’re enjoying flaunting your wealth and financial prowess on a blog (where everybody believes you’re being honest about that……), but your defense of your positions is that of a high school aged kid who thinks they’re getting something over on their parents who know better.
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
Jay should feature ‘Everybody Wants to Rule the World’ from Tears for Fears album ‘Songs from the Big Chair.’
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
Fred
No, I missed most of the women’s U-20 games. I keep forgetting
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:34 pm
Steve, you might want to visit Vatican City to be really sickened by the excesses of a church. It is overwhelming. Stupendous while sickening.
But in all defense of some of the larger churches, I know many years ago that Peachtree Pres, the largest Pres church in the country, did fund a number of soup kitchens. They were not at the church because that is not where they were needed.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:34 pm
cnn is looping Clint telling robme to go f himself.
Clint Eastwood is the man.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
Jay’s selection today will be from Neil Diamond in honor of Clint.
“I am,” I said
To no one there
An no one heard at all
Not even the chair
Reality
August 31st, 2012
1:36 pm
When Georgia hostipals close, when middle class folks in Georgia cannot get healthcare of any kind, and so on….
THEN will people of Georgia wake up and stop electing these idiot republicans? I doubt it.
Reality
August 31st, 2012
1:38 pm
Under Romney’s tax proposal, HE will be paying less than 2% in Federal taxes. Keep this in mind when you go to the polls.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:38 pm
Keep-
You bring up a good point about the off-site soup kitchens. I live up North of Atlanta and I don’t really see any soup kitchens but I hope they are there.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Fred,
How the hell do you only pay a 9% tax rate. You’ve stated on here several times that you draw $19,500 a month in retirement income which is taxed at ordinary income tax rates. You would be in the top rate. So how did you pay only 9%. In order to do that you would have to have capital gains taxes and losses in extraordinary amounts to offset that income to get down to an average of 9%. Mitt Romney has 200 million and after accounting for capital gains losses against capital gains he still could only get his rate down to 13% the last couple of years.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Steve – USA – they haven’t finished everything, but it is close, and the
main road is open again, and they’ve really done a good job cleaning
up the construction.
after Labor Day,
You should be able to find a really good deal in the $60-80 range
if you’re on a budget, and on up if you’re in the Rmoney class.
You just missed the beach music festival.
Fred, I’m still waitin for you at the world famous Spanky’s
I even wore my tribal hat. and brought my guitar.
yep, larry, after Sept 30, i’ve gotta take the shawnee woman
to da Keys, get her outta here for a week or two.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
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You really aren’t that bright, Fred. I’m glad you’re enjoying flaunting your wealth and financial prowess on a blog (where everybody believes you’re being honest about that……), but your defense of your positions is that of a high school aged kid who thinks they’re getting something over on their parents who know better.
Ah but son, I’ve met several people FROM this blog and they know I’m telling the truth lol. Your belief of lack thereof does not alter the truth. See, I’m not a Republican nor a right wing talk show host nor a Baptist. I don’t lie. My “stories” can be verified by real people on these blogs.I would be very surprised if Jay doesn’t know who I am lol.
Your main problem (other than a lack of grey matter) is that in your tiny little mind anyone who doesn’t walk lockstep with your whacked out far right wing fanatical narrow view is a “librul” or a “left wing pinko commie socialist DEMONCRAT. But reality isn’t that cut and dried son. YOU are on the lunatic fringe of the far right. Others here are on the luntic fringe of the far left. Many others are more moderate yet still are democrats or republicans. Others of us are independents. You far out lunatic fringe fanatics though look at everyone not in lock step with you as “the enemy.” And since your views are non supportable without lying you lie. Since you lie you accuse others of that lack of moral character. It helps you feel better about yourself for being a liar.
I understand. I feel for you, but I can’t reach you. Only YOU can free your mind from the stupidity to which you have chained it. You should try sometime, you might find you like it. Free thought is a neat thing, really, you don’t have to be afraid of it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 31st, 2012
1:42 pm
“Obama for President” campaign thread #215
(Take it with a grain of salt)
Jerome Horwitz
August 31st, 2012
1:42 pm
Kam – The gardening will still be there tomorrow, sunday, monday………. But tournament games only happen once.
Bob Loblaw
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
I don’t care if its $4B or $714,000. We ain’t got it.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
“Didn’t the feds get after this state for the way it handled their mental health patients ?”
No. Otherwise Jays liberal cadre would be gone.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
Steve-USA “None of the Above”
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
Jay’s selection today will be from Neil Diamond in honor of Clint.
“I am,” I said
To no one there
An no one heard at all
Not even the chair
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Great one lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht0zsE9GPrs
Newby
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
RB – It’s kinda rude to accues someone of “LYING” when you are only offering a different interpretation of the situation. An assumption of good faith makes it seem like you are interested in discussing the subject, instead of merely attempting to impose your will.
Just a friendly word of advice…
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
“Obama Win: Court Reinstates Early Voting Days In Key State” Aol
The courts on stopping gop cheating in most States.
Why do the gop need to cheat if our President is so bad?
HDB
August 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
GREAT NEWS FOR DEMOCRACY!!!
Federal Judge Restores Early Voting In Ohio After Obama Suit
A federal judge in Ohio on Friday restored early voting rights in the three days before the election, ruling in favor of the Obama campaign.
U.S. District judge Peter C. Economus ruled that “restoring in-person early voting to all Ohio voters through the Monday before Election Day does not deprive UOCAVA voters from early voting.”
“Instead, and more importantly, it places all Ohio voters on equal standing,” Economus ruled. He said the state “fails to articulate a precise, compelling interest in establishing the 6 p.m. Friday deadline as applied to non-UOCAVA voters and has failed to evidence any commitment to the ‘exception’ it rhetorically extended to UOCAVA voters.”
The Romney campaign had falsely accused Obama of trying to curtail military voting when the suit simply sought to force the state to make early voting available to all Ohio voters.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/federal-judge-restores-early-voting-in-ohio-after
DannyX
August 31st, 2012
1:45 pm
“Danny X do loves his blame Bush card he do. So Danny is W still president???”
No, but Republican denial and lack of taking responsibility for the situation do nothing to help their cause. Repeating the insane mantra that bringing up Bush is taboo does not work with me. Nor does the new Republican mantra of “trust us” without any details.
Republicans can run from Bush all they want, I hope Democrats mention his name 100,000 times at their convention next week, reminding people of the disaster he left behind and the current Republican fools who have no idea how to fix the mess. Making sure Obama is a one term president is not a strategy to fix things. I said right here on the ajc blogs 4 years ago that whoever won the election would have a hard time being re-elected because thing were so messed up and a quick fix was impossible.
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush,
Newby
August 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
getalife – I wonder that too. All the hyperbole about ‘worst president ever – evil marxist hater of America’, etc.
Do they ever wonder why Obama is winning?
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
August 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
St. Simons-
Thanks for the info. My wife loves to eat at Spanky’s.
How about when you go to the Keys I crash at your place? Leave your keys under the welcome mat.
Ivan
August 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
“Our President had to work around corrupt congress on jobs and will continue to do so”
working around a super majority must’ve been tough to get the health care bill passed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
August 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
The gardening will still be there tomorrow, sunday, monday………. But tournament games only happen once.
A most compelling argument.
Damn you!
iBS Aplenty
August 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
Twenty percent of our [Georgia] citizens are uninsured… -Bookman
Depending on the statistical source (CDC, USA Today, etc) anywhere from one-third to forty percent of Americans are obese. ONE-THIRD TO FORTY PERCENT. If you were serious about the health of Americans, Mr. Bookman, you’d ask them why they CHOOSE to be obese. That particular personal CHOICE subjects them to chronic and expensive to treat medical issues like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, hypertension and all the related problems that go along with them. Diseases that could be prevented by simply maintaining a healthy body weight. These are the diseases of choice and tremendous health care costs that could be avoided.
But then, you’re not interested in the health of Americans, Bookman, you’re just interested in controlling one-sixth of the American economy so Dem politicians can funnel these resources to their political cronies like the unions. Health care costs go up just like state university tuition and related operating costs and no end in site.
Gov. Deal knows when to say, no.
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
Fed will do more easing because unemployment is their responsibility.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
August 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
So Danny is W still president???
No thank god. But the effects of his disastrous two terms are still being felt.
JamVet
August 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
What else would you expect but garbage and outright lies like this from the would be Liar-in-Chief?
“But today, four years from the excitement of the last election, for the first time, the majority of Americans now doubt that our children will have a better future,” Romney said.
Does the man or his handlers have no ability to do basic research???
Simply stated, they look like idiots.
What the pretzel-spined one “forgot” to mention is that the EXACT SAME THING was true 16 years ago.
Unfit to lead…
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Fred,
Well damn. I didn’t know you had met and hung out with several people on this blog. Bruno and Jamvet had hung out several times but it sounds to me like ya’ll got yourself a little social club going. I don’t think I would have verified my financial statements with people I might on a blog though. Not a smart thing to do there Fred even if we’re all on the up and up.
Jm
August 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Spankys
Good pizza, fingers, spuds
Bad for you, your health insurer and the taxpayer
getalife
August 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
Newby,
The gop lie about everything is a good way to determine that our President is doing a great job after a collapse.
They expected a booming economy after a collapse because they bought the hype on our President.
Steady job growth without going back to a recession like the eu austerity is the best economy you will get after a collapse.
Economists predict 12 million more jobs unless congress screws it up.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
Thusla: How the hell do you only pay a 9% tax rate. You’ve stated on here several times that you draw $19,500 a month in retirement income which is taxed at ordinary income tax rates.
Nope I never said that. I said at least $19,500 was paid to us monthly (that’s the guaranteed part my wife has a GREAT job lol). I’m not retired lol, I’m “resting.” I still have my company which draws a lot of tax breaks even though I do as little business as I can. (I’m in the process of changing fields, when I get everything finished I’ll be re branded as a Computer Company). I’m not yet 50 so I can’t draw retirement income.
There is a way to write off some of my daughter’s school I think but I’m still researching it. Even so my accountant leaves money on the table every year. He told me years ago, “I can cut it to the bone but you WILL get audited at some point if I do.” So we leave some on the table so as not to endure the hassle of an audit. If you keep getting red flagged year after year they’ll finally make something up if they have to to nail you.
But nope, I’m not retired. Not even an AARP guy yet.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
August 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
If you were serious about the health of Americans, Mr. Bookman, you’d ask them why they CHOOSE to be obese. That particular personal CHOICE subjects
Oy vey. Few people I know CHOOSE to be obese. Many have had bad eating habits from their parents, low priced food (as a result of USDA funding choices) are high calorie, and there are new studies that show that certain food products/chemicals and BPA containers may actually be in part or in some cases wholly responsible for encouraging fat storage. Of course, the lobbyist for those producers fight to keep their products in the marketplace without proper warning.
Perhaps instead of false blame, help to provide them real education about healthy eating, mrestaurantsants provide the calorie content of their meals on the menu so people know how much they really are getting in that portion, etc., etc.
You are right. you are BS aplenty.
Fred ™
August 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Bob Loblaw
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
I don’t care if its $4B or $714,000. We ain’t got it.
++++++++++++++++
But you have it to build Blank a new stadium and to go fishing with Sonny………
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
1:58 pm
Whining about people making poor choices does not fix anything. If you educate people and convince them to change their way of life, then you have a chance at keeping many of them out of the emergency rooms where they get very expensive care and ultimately increase the cost of health insurance for everyone above the cost to keep them healthy in the first place. And if the few that claim to be able to stay healthy forever and never need unaffordable healthcare do not want to pick up their tab for continuous coverage, they have options. They should feel free to exercise one of them.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
1:59 pm
leave some on the table – good advice, & not just for accounting
Steve – you’d be welcome, dude. But i got a line 5-deep. Never HAD
so many friends as when we moved from Duluth down here. sha-na-na
Peter
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
But there is no cure for STUPID!
YUP. and that is who voted Deal into Power !
TaxPayer
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
I’m not yet 50 so I can’t draw retirement income.
You can if you follow the rules. I’ve been drawing my retirement pension since I was 47.
Thulsa Doom- pompous ass extraordinaire
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
Fred,
That’s interesting. How is your company structured that it can pay so little in taxes?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
Jm, if lovin spanky’s is wrong, i don’t wanna be right
j/k they have healthy food now too