GOP stoops to Orwellian rewriting of history

I guess Jay sleeps well at night knowing that the “private sector is doing fine.”

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Repeat a lie often enough…………….

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Jay,

My issue with what Obama said is that it goes in line with his philosophy. He is much more left-leaning than most people who build small businesses. We feel threatened by him. He may not have meant it exactly how it sounded but it lands close enough to the truth that it is scary none the less.

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My family and my employees built this…along with plenty of farm subsidies…on our own…with our own hands….

Can’t really believe they chose a farmer to make their point in this ad…

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The private sectors is doing just fine. They just aren’t trickling any of it down.

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Running on the ad that is mentioned, will not will over independents.

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It is distressing to see so many Americans gleefully embrace and rally around what they know in their hearts to be a doctored version of history.

Welcome to 2012. Lying is a profitable industry these days for pundits who otherwise couldn’t get a job at Wal-Mart.

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Throw in the lie about changing welfare rules and well….there you have it, a party of lies funded and paid for by the wealth whose only goal in life it seems is to get “more” through tax cuts and god knows what else that have up their sleeves. This is a party of diminishing returns for the working class, they are not to be trusted in their current state…

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Poor “Simple Truths” can’t tell the difference between a one-day story and building an entire campaign around something.

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Obama with his statement said what he believes and he believes that a big centralized government is the answer. He believes that private sector business plays a lessor role and it must be closely controlled by the government. It’s his socialist ideology slipping out and being revealed in his speech. He’s not being taken out of context at all.

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Republicans: the grand party of cognitive dissonance. Or maybe “cognitive dissidents” is better? I’ll have to think about that.

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Normal, I saw a great line last night and used it.

You ain’t filthy rich, you are just filthy dumb!

Anti-intellectualism/rampant dishonesty is systemic in the horrifically incompetent Republican Party.

It is one of the few things that HAVE trickled down on them.

Hell, they have even made up their own language that is somewhat similar to standard written English…

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recon

A little projection going on there? It seems you see and hear what you want it to be, not actually what is being said. Therein lies the problem, actual words seem to fall on deaf ears…

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Getting to this late. It is the constant and repeated lying about such things that has ultimately made me completely deaf to any message by Romney. If his belief in his religion is so strong, how does he square his religion with his constant lying about things Obama said?

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The great challenge for the semi-literate, garden variety con is to turn off the TV and radio and to actually start reading intellectual information again.

All of their sound bite “answers” are being spoon fed to them by the biggest liars on the planet – Limbaugh, O’Reilly. Coulter, Hannity, Boortz, et al, ad nauseum…

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Recon said “Obama with his statement said what he believes and he believes that a big centralized government is the answer. He believes that private sector business plays a lessor role and it must be closely controlled by the government. It’s his socialist ideology slipping out and being revealed in his speech. He’s not being taken out of context at all”

Ah – the old “freudian slip” theory of political propaganda…

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Well, Republicans sure aren’t going to tell the truth, if they did they would have to say,

“The economy: We didn’t build that, we demolished it.”

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The Democrats just featured an ad claiming Mitt killed a man’s wife.

Was an independent super-pac, not the president and not the DNC. And Obama said it wasn’t true.

Romney doubles down on the lie.

Try again.

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Fred,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_from_My_Father#Basis_for_characters

Obama, Barack. Dreams From My Father, pg. xvii. Three Rivers Press, New York City: 2004.

Thanks for playing.

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As in the Freudian unconscious, in American Id politics there is no negation. Any string of words is free to roam outside its context without suffering the slightest deprivation of literal meaning the imagination might bestow on it.

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The Democrats just featured an ad claiming Mitt killed a man’s wife. Did Obama’s campaign approve that message. Nope. I’m sorry

Big difference in a Romney campaign approved message and a Super PAC approved message.

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The Democrats used to not favor socialist policies. The Democrats used to be for motherhood, apple pie, and free enterprise. The Democrats used to have a soul. America didn’t leave the Democrats, the Democrats embraced secular socialism because the whole hippie thing didn’t work out.

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“Mr. Obama doubled down on the owner not building the business.”

SEE!!! It WORKS. And that’s why they lie to you. Because they know you’ll be dumb enough to believe what they say, instead of believing your “lying eyes”

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PJ – “Also the debates (if Romney does them all) should be interesting too; to see if the “I don’t care about facts” line works.”

Agreed. It’s one thing to stand up with your peers and verbally assault your opponent. However, thing change greatly when one is forced to go head to head with their competition. I asked this question on another thread. If Romney is so great, why have Republicans repeatedly passed on him for POTUS/VP until now?

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I also find it funny that Republican governors are going to great pains to say that the economies of their respective states are doing great

I know one state that the unemployment rate there has been higher than the national average since July of 2007.

Let’s see, which state is that……………………..I’ll give everyone three guesses and the first two dont count.

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Mitt lies, his party lies….and they build an entire campaign on lies. And the conned swallow it whole. NO ONE has gone it alone in this country…. NO ONE has “built it” alone. Anyone who thinks or says they did, must be an idiot.

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Who is Artur Davis ?

Rep. Davis loses bid to become first black governor of Alabama

Rep. Artur Davis lost the Democratic gubernatorial primary Tuesday, ending his bid to become the first African-American to hold Alabama’s top job.
Davis lost to state Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, who pulled in 64 percent of the vote to the congressman’s 36 percent, according to unofficial results.
Sparks’ long-shot victory may be attributed to low voter turnout among blacks who did not go to the polls for Davis at the same levels they did in 2008 for President Obama.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/governor-races/100955-davis-loses-bid-to-become-alabamas-first-black-gov

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“The Democrats just featured an ad claiming Mitt killed a man’s wife”

Nope. That was a PAC or some such. One of those “money is free speech” things that Supremes foisted on us. If it doesn’t say “I’m Barack Obama and I approved this message” it’s out of the control of ANYONE except those responsible for creating it.

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I think Jay left off the next sentence of the famous quote “You didn’t build that. Somebody else made it happen” I guess it depends on your definition of “that” and “it”.

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To sum up the speeches last night:

“Chris Christie 2016″!!!!

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Jay,

He’s only stating what he really believes. Maybe we should applaud him for revealing his true ideology to the voters.

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People’s lives matter. Mr. Obama’s statement sticks in the minds of people because it comes off as belittling their hard work. And not just small business owners. A great many people took that statement as an indictment of any measure of success they may have achieved in life. Certainly, people realize they had to have opportunities to achieve success but the difference between those who did and those who did not is the amount of effort exerted.

To belittle those efforts is insulting and almost everyone can identify with that. As such, there is little reason the GOP is beating that statement like a drum. If Democrats want to change the discussion the way to do so is quite simple: talk about President Obama’s record since taking office. If the last 3 1/2 years have left the country in better shape then talk about that. If people are so obviously better off 3 1/2 years into President Obama’s first term in office then talk about that.

But there’s the rub. The country is not in better shape. People are worse off than they were when he took office. To say the situation would be even worse without President Obama is a tough sell. To say he inherited a mess, while true, isn’t getting it. Obama did inherit a mess but many of the American people (including many who voted for Mr. Obama in 2008) doubt he can fix it. The question then becomes can Romney get the economy moving again where Obama has not? If the answer to that question is yes then Romney wins in November. All the spin from the campaigns will not change that!

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I guess it depends on your definition of “that” and “it”.

You mean roads and bridges? Yeah, the business owners didn’t build those.

Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that.
~Big O

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He’s only stating what he really believes.

No, you’re only stating what you believe he really believes.

And you’re smart enough to know that.

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The truth is that the Republicans are campaigning on words that resonate with their targeted supporters–whites, especially old white males including Sheldon Adelson and the Koch boys.

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Butch Cassidy (I)

August 29th, 2012
8:58 am

Redstateneck – “Butch, does your religion place Hitler and the Jews he killed in the same place?”

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I couldnt’ figure that ignorant post out either Butch so don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. It looks like our usual troll with his new daily alt (atlernate screen name). I would just ignore it.

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An attendee at the Republican National Convention in Tampa on Tuesday allegedly threw nuts at a black camerawoman working for CNN and said “This is how we feed animals” before being removed from the convention, a network official confirmed to TPM.

As they were removed, an RNC official was heard yelling at them “Too blatant! Too blatant!!”

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You mean you libs don’t believe with all your heart that one day you are born and the next day *poof* you own a successful business? Your parents and your education in no way contributed to you getting to the point where you could start a business?

Are you commies or what?

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Common Sense

August 29th, 2012
8:59 am

If common sense is really your forte, then you know why, the GOP will not let it happen.

The GOP said from day one of President Obama’s election that their main priority is to make him a one term President. They have put ideological pride ahead of their constituents and will not allow anything to pass that will make the President look good. The GOP of today is not “For the People”. They are for themselves and many, many of us will remember that come November.

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I think we can agree that the world’s greatest orator is a total idiot when it comes to simple grammar in standard English. For an educated person, the indefinite pronoun for a plural – “roads and bridges” – is “those,” not “that.” Of course, for the GOP “Orwellian rewriting of history” to have any sound basis at all, one would have to assume that the original speaker of the meaning of the “Orwellian rewriting of history” – Elizabeth Warren – will have a significant speaking role at the democrat convention. Oops, she does, doesn’t she? Well, talking about Orwellian rewriting!

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“TOUGH LOVE: Christie Rallies GOP With Call for ‘Era of Truth-Telling’” – FOX news headline as of 9:04 am. “Era of truth-telling”…wow…can this get any stranger?

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b-troll,

That’s Obama’s newest strategy, he wants to run on Clinton’s record because he can’t run on his own.

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Most “self-made” successes
are just lucky but would not
have been lucky if they had
not been trying at the time
they got lucky. Anyone’s
success betters everyone’s
chances. Parsing words out
of context is just lying by
omission.

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I think we can agree that

There are 2 things wrong with that statement…..

“we can agree” — nope
“I think” — we can agree to hope one day.

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Doesn’t matter.

Sound familiar? Yes, that’s Debbie W Schultz (any relation to AJC Shultz?) talking point. What’s good for the geese is good for the gander.

Bottom line, all this poppyc0ck from both sides makes no difference. What counts is Obama’s failure to do anything about the economy. That and that alone is why he must go.

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Recon 9:06 bingo

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“If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that.”

Simply put, this sentence just sounds bad. You can talk about the context and everything but that 1 sentence sounds horrible, especially in a time when small businesses are struggling.

I know the context and everything but taking horribly worded sentences out of context happens to everyone.

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If only Romney could tell us the truth about his taxes. Release those tax returns, Mitt.

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4.5 million private sector jobs created after the second worse economic disaster ever in this countries history.

Stock market up over 13, 000 from a low of 6,900 in March of 2009.

The only sector that is losing jobs is the public sector and the President has tried to rectify that situation, only to be met with a filabuster.

And while that filabuster continues, the job loses continue, ironically, in the states headed by a Repub. governor. Who needs stinking teachers, firefighters and policemen and policewomen?

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As a Democrat, you are for sure an expert on lying. The supreme leader probably unloads fifteen to twenty per day.

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I think we can agree…

Uh oh. Old habits die hard.

His own personal convictions and arguments are so terribly weak that he dares not use a singular pronoun.

Perhaps he is the blog’s Mrs. Slocumbe – “And I am unanimous in that!”

So, no, WE do not agree with that sophist explanation that even a bright nine year old could see through…

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“It is not a lie if YOU believe it” – George Costanza

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Fred,

Dreams From My father, Page XVII:

“For the sake of compression, some of the characters that appear are composites of people I’ve known, and some events appear out of precise chronology”

Obama wrote the book. This is a direct except from it. Whether I have read the book is not an issue.

Thanks for lying!

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I’m just waiting for Romney to deliver the line, “See, you can trust me.” with a wink just like good ol’ Joe Isuzu. I listened to some of the speeches last night. I’m with Doggone in that I’m beginning to just tune things out completely because of the doubling and tripling down on outright lies. If you have to lie to make your point, then you don’t have a point to make.

It’s his socialist ideology slipping out and being revealed in his speech. He’s not being taken out of context at all.

If that were indeed the case, the GOP and their attack PAC’s wouldn’t have to truncate Obama’s words to sell their propaganda. They could use his entire speech and still make the same point, yet at no time have they ever done that, have they? Even when Romney ran the ad in New Hampshire last year, he cut out Obama’s context to create a lie. He even acknowledged that and was proud of what he had done. Damn shame that someone with such a despicable character could even get a nomination for dog catcher, much less being nominated for a major party for President.

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Fred ™

August 29th, 2012
9:12 am

Fred,
You just put into words the true meaning of “It takes a village” to raise a kid… Thanks.

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Chris KrispyCreme keynote loser is another bloviating asshat that has failed to do his job but sure likes telling others what to do. He and the rest of the GOP Carnival Barkers have absolutly nothing to offer to American people.

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American political discourse is so degraded and debased that it is an open invitation to the most cynical political players — almost always the right-leaning parties, but not always — to distort and oversimply and do every kind of violence to a any scrap of language it can get its hands on. Which is what the Rove-ified GOP is doing once again in front of our eyes.

There is one purpose to this and one only: to appeal to the so-called “low information voter”, the person who 1) is either too ignorant to understand the issue behind the statement, or 2) literally is so cynical himself that he knows it’s a fake debate, but is swayed by it anyway because he figures the system is so corrupt that lying and fakery are normal states of being for it.

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‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

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Only some forgot 800.000 jobs a month lost.They don’t know that’s worse than 150.000 gained.

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b-troll

August 29th, 2012
9:14 am

For a guy my age, that’s not a bad thing…beats having to pull the porti-potty behind the bike…

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Jay: agree with Steve-USA…let your peeps at AJC know they did a good job with the new site!

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Simple Truths

August 29th, 2012
9:13 am

Fred,

Dreams From My father, Page XVII:

“For the sake of compression, some of the characters that appear are composites of people I’ve known, and some events appear out of precise chronology”

Obama wrote the book. This is a direct except from it. Whether I have read the book is not an issue.
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Yes actually it IS the issue. You can’t accurate put something in context that you haven’t actually read. You can only mouth someone else’s words and thoughts, which is exactly what you are doing. That makes you nothing more than a per-programmed sock puppet without an original thought.

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Jay

August 29th, 2012
9:12 am
“So Rags, your glaring mistake in a written communication that you had time to reread and edit says nothing about your basic intelligence, yet Obama’s use of an improper pronoun in a speech says everything about his.

Do I have your argument right?”
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LOL. I was thinking the same thing. I think we can all agree that we will not be hearing from mr rags about this. It will disappear into the “w” vortex of history that never happened, and must never be mentioned.

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LOL b-troll. The look on the woman sitting on the motorcycle is priceless given the context of the story.

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I don’t think the R’s are taking President Obama’s statements out of context…..
If he had acknowledged the risks taken by individuals to start a business I may be able to give O a pass, but he didn’t

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Taxers!

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Obama and Truth

1.) Selma March Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY , your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Selma ‘ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles a bout its various untruths.) ! !

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

And the list of lies goes on and on.

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Fred ™

August 29th, 2012
9:16 am
The, I do not pretend to understand anything Chauncey does.

First off, who the hell is Chauncey and what has he to do with this discussion.
Secondly, ironic don’t you think that while you are trying to prove that President Obama is somehow unfit as a human being for not using text book English, you can’t type a single post without grammatical errors.

But please, continue on with your hypocrisy, it’s amusing to watch you try to impart an air of intellectual superiority when you are stepping on your johnson with every post. I love laughing at you and your hypocrisy.
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For this to be true, I think we can all agree that mr rags must own a very high stool.

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Jay, are you active in this weekends book festival?

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Republicans can’t get elected without lying. Can you imagine how many votes they would get if they told the truth?

We’re going to raise your taxes so that we can cut the taxes for corporations and the rich.

We’re going to privatize SS by turning those trillions over to Wall. St.

We’re going to get rid of Medicare and turn those trillions over to the insurance companies. You foot most of the bill.

We want to give civils rights to fetuses, but once you’re born we don’t care about you.

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You want Orwelian re-writing of history? Just look at the text books in government schools. Government rewrites history all the time to make THEIR version the one everyone learns.

Think Pearl Harbor was unprovoked? Think FDR’s policies ended the Great Depression? Think WW2 ended the Great Depression? Think the Gulf of Tonkin incident really happened that way? Think the Luisitania was just another innocent passenger ship travelling to Europe? Think the Maine was actually blown up by the Spanish in Havanna harbor? Think all of Truman’s generals believed that dropping the Atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was necessary? Think the Japapanese weren’t trying to surrender prior to Aug. 6th 1945? Thank government history books because none of those things happened the way they say they did. Hitler understood the big lie. In current day, the Bush administration perfected the practice but Obama is doing his very best to outdo even Bush.

Of couse Romney is a liar. He hasn’t held a consistent position on anything his entire life. The only GOP candidate with a 30 year consistent voting record in congress was rejected by the GOP because of his “inflexibility.” This is what americans want in a politician – someonw who tells them whatever they need to hear, whenever they need to hear it. We didn’t get this screwed up as a country by accident.

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Deniers!

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Jay, I don’t think the GOP campaign is based on a “lie” as you claim. It appears to me that when you and I hear those words spoken by the President, we simply hear very different things. I don’t speak for Republicans but I would guess many Republicans heard those words the way that I did.

I helped start and manage a small business with a few partners. We’ve now enjoyed a moderate level of success. We took financial risk and made personal sacrifices to see it through. Of course we owe gratitude to our clients who pay the bills, our parents, spouses, mentors, etc. And of course there is a gratitude to the system around us that in some part helped create the environment for the business to succeed. But my other partners and I have the driving force behind the business, not someone or something else. Most other people I know engaged in owning and running small businesses feel the same way – we acknowledge that we don’t do every single thing ourselves or that we have had some help along the way – but by and large we did build our businesses.

I listened to the words in context. I read the words in context. I will tell you straight up that I personally found his comments to be very insulting. I still do. I think you do the President a disservice by posting them here.

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Fred / Normal

I’m against road rage. But if someone ran a biker with that bike off the road, I’d have a hard time blaming them.

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“What do you think about the Romney campaign’s claim that Mitt will create 250,000 jobs per month for four years if he is elected.”

I’ll believe it if I see it. I take everything these 2 politicians say these days w/ a freakin’ dump truck of salt. Not just a grain.

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“I guess Jay sleeps well at night knowing that the “private sector is doing fine.””

“Big business is doing fine in many places,” Romney said during a campaign fundraiser Thursday. “They get the loans they need, they can deal with all the regulation. They know how to find ways to get through the tax code, save money by putting various things in the places where there are low tax havens around the world for their businesses.”

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I reluctantly watched last night (well, read along because I was in a loud place) because it’s Georgia and therefore Faux Noise has to be on by law.

I tried my hardest to feel something for the plight of Elizabeth and her poor basement apartment upbringing – but when I remembered that neither of them was born into a struggling working class family and have never worried about money and yes, raising 5 kids is not easy – unless you pay nannies to do it for you and have maids and chefs at home to cook and clean which gives you time to trod around the globe … come to think of it, no, she’s never worked a day in her life. So please quit trying to connect to the little people. You sound condescending and flakey.

Does anyone else find it odd that Santorum (awesome name with no possible connotative possibilities) spent 30 minutes trumping the MittBot but had spent 9 months trashing him in debates? Kind of odd to listen to back handed complements from the other side of his mouth this time.

As for Tony Soprano from Jersey … I just keep waiting for him to pound his chest and utter “da Bears!” and then keel over and use his tax paid helthcare for life

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“unlike Fearless Leader, I do not profess to be The One”

Obama never did, either.

nice try

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Scared, aren’t you Jay Bookman? Scared, aren’t you liberals? Scared, aren’t you Democrat Party?

Very effective advertisement? You bet is is.

Now Bookman is trying to call the ad a lie, a spin, and is a fabrication just like all of the truths that I have been making him aware of for the past 16 years.

The problem with you guys is that you are supporting and backing a losing cause. A cause so Un-American and so aggregious to the fabric of this country that it is indefensible. Obama is a ghost selection with Marxist/Socialist leanings. He exposes himself and his ideology with speeches and sayings of, “you didn’t build that” and “we need to spread the wealth around”. You get these kind of speeches and sayings from North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, China, Vietnam Nam, and Russia.

In contrast, America saw last night a beautiful and truthful couple who will be the next occupants of the WH. Full of character and honesty that Americans have been denied for 4 years. How about Gov. Haley? Beautiful and smart. How about Gov. Christy? Strong and truthful.

So all of you Bookman myrmidons keep buying into his “big lie” conspiracy, stay unemployed, blame the wealthy, keep spending, don’t balance the budget, incur more debt, depend on government entitlements, depend on failed government management, and I shall be here throwing it right back at you. You think that the Republicans are spinning the “out of context” thing? Hardly. Just because you all have been spinning untruths for so long, you can’t see the forest for the tree.

What goes around, comes around. What you see is what you get. Now let’s hear it from all you smart voters who elected this rabble and want 4 more years of the same.

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USinUK,
I’ve been meaning to ask you this but I keep forgetting. I’ve checked all the Governmental files, CIA files, FBI files, IRS files, and the GOP Enemies files, but I can’t find it anywhere….So…Where the hell is your cooking blog???

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Jeff

August 29th, 2012
9:23 am

Fred claims to be independent, What a joke, He is a full, all out left wing liberal!
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Oh cool, Jeffy decided to be a big boy and use a capitol J today.

Shame his mind didn’t grow up to.

Yeah Jeffy, anyone who doesn’t walk lock step with the far right wing talk radio nut case agenda is a full blown liberal socialist commie pinko homosexual deviant. I know that. You got me.

Here’s your sign:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ZkdHImCuQ

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Jay, I disagree. Using a composite is different from changing names to protect the innocent. I agree changing a name will protect someone’s identity. I understand the President’s logic for that.

When you create a composite, you start changing details of what actually occurred. You are rewriting history. I won’t call it Orwellian, but it is rewriting history.

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When Bush said “Mission Accomplished” he didn’t mean the war was over.

When Palin said “I can see Russia from my front porch” she didn’t mean literally or that it made her an expert in foreign policy.

When Gore said whatever he said about inventing the internet I don’t think he meant HE actually invented the internet.

When Jay Bookman said Obama was the most frugal president since Eisenhower I don’t think he meant it the way most people took it. At least I hope not.

So yes, Obama was talking about the roads and bridges and he said “you didn’t build that.” But so what? The business owner who used the roads and bridges pays taxes on all the vehicles his business has that uses those roads. Obama seems to believe the government should get more credit for providing the infrastructure that businesses use than most people do. I wonder if he believes it should get the blame when a business that uses roads and bridges fail?

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I see the cons pissed off the Ron Paul supporters yesterday. There goes 10% of the con voters. LOL

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Yeah Jeffy, anyone who doesn’t walk lock step with the far right wing talk radio nut case agenda is a full blown liberal socialist commie pinko homosexual deviant. I know that. You got me.

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Wahoo, you wrote ” And of course there is a gratitude to the system around us that in some part helped create the environment for the business to succeed”.

What do you say to people who want to tear down that system of physical and social infrastructure because it “costs too much”? Obama’s quote is not meant to berate business owners but to celebrate their success, and highlight some of what made their success possible, and keep that possibility open to all. It is in defense of future business owners. that he is speaking.

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Donovan,
That you can’t see the Ad for the lie it is, speaks volumes about you.

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S. Truths — “Jay glosses over the uproar when Mitt said “I like being able to fire people.”

Then again, Obama’s not making that one of his campaign’s applause lines.

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oh, FFS, Ragnar … “we are the ones we have been waiting for” /= “I am The One”

jeebus, I always knew you were an idiot, but THIS takes the biscuit

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Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up, and take a bow. And tell us all about yourself and how you created all those jobs and did it in a manner consistent with your Mormon upbringing.

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Concerning this piece by Jay:

Talk about grasping at straws…blah, blah, blah.

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Dear Jay @ 9:37, so when the GOP says that Ms. Warren’s leftist-economics argument is what Chauncey meant with his inflammatory words, why is that “Orwellian?” Sounds like a mainstream interpretation of leftist philosophy. Friend Gordon @ 9:35 already explained why Ms. Warren’s economics fail, and I adopt his argument in toto.

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Jay,

Pick on the words all you want.

The truth remains this: there is no telling what Obama will do next in taxation, regulation and demands to businesses, big and small. This is the fear – and how EVERY person slightly familiar with business – from bankers to business owner large and small – sees as a giant red flag. Risks must be planned for or they can wipe you out, literally. No one, from Apple to the corner store, gets any support – financial or otherwise – without first understanding and then having plans in place to manage risks. Regulatory risks is a VERY big factor and has now been front and center since 2010 stifling every possibility of sustained growth.

I believe the President is plenty smart enough to know this even though he does not have an MBA. Larry Summers certainly would have told him. So why is he continuing to seed the unrest with threatening to tighten his tax and spend grip on the lifeblood of American ingenuity?

The only answer I can come to is that he is the tip of an iceberg of a movement who really wants the America that has been the most successful model of prosperity in history to give way to a totalitarian regime that removes all the individual drive and innovation to serve not the collective but the privileged few – Presidents who have an entourage with jets, movie stars with multiple homes, philanthropists who try to appear with a conscience after driving their competitors out of business. In other words, those who gave MILLIONS to Obama’s campaign instead of sending that same money to working charities to help those in need.

Some of these regimes came and went but others are still here – the former East Germany (go watch The Life of Others), the former Soviet Union, present-day China. If you believe the United States should follow their example, then go ahead, pick apart more words in your intellectual sandbox while we goes down the dumper.

I, for one, want people who are RESPONSIBLE in charge, not blamers, not preachers and not tabloid thugs.

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mere weeks before Chauncey’s unfortunate language

There you go again failing to seperate fact from fiction. Chauncey was a MOVIE character. He has nothing to do with Ms. Warren or any other modern day REAL person. Quit talking to the voices in your head.

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And don’t we all love to hear Gov. Christie talking about how Romney believes in “shared sacrifice” by all Americans — when has Romney ever said that??? All I’ve heard him say is that his millionaire friends will get more tax cuts if he is elected president — OMG!

The GOP lies and propaganda is neverending!

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USinUk,
Just signed up…thanks!

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz and CNN’s Anderson Cooper engaged in a heated exchange Thursday night when Cooper charged that the Florida congresswoman “misquoted” the Los Angeles Times in a letter that the anchor also said misrepresented Mitt Romney’s stance on the Republican Party’s abortion platform plank.

The segment, which has gone viral in the conservative blogosphere, features Cooper, on his CNN show “Anderson Cooper 360,” pointing to a fundraising email Wasserman Schultz signed. He said that a quote she used from the Los Angeles Times in the appeal was taken “completely out of context.”

“The DNC chairwoman calls out Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan for saying they don’t entirely agree with that plank,” Cooper said. “And here’s how she backs it up…’But guess what? ‘The Los Angeles Times’ reported yesterday that the platform was, and I quote, ‘written at the direction of Romney’s campaign.’

But Cooper said the quote “was ripped, in fact, out of a sentence,” saying that the real piece read, “Delegates for presumptive nominee Mitt Romney are voting down substantive changes to the platform language that was written at the direction of Romney’s campaign.”

“Do you at least acknowledge that the quote that you gave from “The L.A. Times” is completely incorrect?” Cooper asked, after a back-and-forth over Romney’s record on allowing for abortions in certain instances, like rape.

“No, I don’t acknowledge that. I know that is what you’re saying,” Wasserman Schultz shot back. When he started to read the quote, she interrupted, “Anderson, what I’m saying is, it doesn’t matter.”

“I think what you say does matter,” he said. “You’re quoting the LA Times and, again, you’ve misquoted them to back up a position.”

Wasserman Schultz said that the point of the fundraising email was to highlight Romney’s connection to his party’s platform ban on abortion, which doesn’t specifically designate exceptions for victims of rape or incest.

“There’s no way a presidential candidate can separate himself from that party’s platform,” she said.

Cooper challenged her assertion there, too, but the most fiery moments of the segment centered on the question of the quote from the Los Angeles Times.

“Just as you don’t like being misquoted, I don’t like being misquoted, I’m sure the LA Times doesn’t like being misquoted to back up your political position,” Cooper said. “I don’t understand why you’d need to do that.”

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“When Palin said “I can see Russia from my front porch” she didn’t mean literally or that it made her an expert in foreign policy”

Except she didn’t say that at all. That was a line in a comedy routine by Tina Fey

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The truth remains this: there is no telling what Obama will do next in taxation, regulation and demands to businesses, big and small. This is the fear – and how EVERY person slightly familiar with business – from bankers to business owner large and small – sees as a giant red flag.

That ain’t truth. That’s BULLSH*T!!

Obama can’t do anything without Congress first writing and passing the legislation for him to sign. Damn, do they not teach Civics anymore?

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This from Gallup:

August 29, 2012
The Republicans’ 44% favorable rating among registered voters is similar to the party’s 2008 pre-conventions rating. The Democrats’ 43% is the lowest pre-conventions favorable score that party has received in Gallup records since 1992.

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” But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”

Can you show us where we can find this social contract?

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If Republicans are the party of No, then Dems are the party of Denial.

Tone, pause, and emphasis when speaking determine the meaning of one’s speech. But even more so are the actions relating to the subject.

Obama has clearly shown disregard and disrespect for business, especially small business. He had rather play golf than meet with his job council. And, his tax increase proposal is aimed directly at small business.

No, he meant it exactly as he stated it. His true feelings jump out when he is off prompter.

Obama thinks all things eminate from big government. Don’t ever doubt it – if he was offered King, he would take it.

Jay, you are spinning this one. Only the Moonbats agree.

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Lying liberal liars and the lies they love to tell.

Libs attacking Mitt Romney because that’s all they’ve got…sure as heck can’t run on their record…

Sustained $1.4 trillion deficits, unemployment > 9%, gasoline > $4/gal, buffoonish foreign policy, etc. etc…

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Doggone/GA

August 29th, 2012
9:44 am
“When Palin said “I can see Russia from my front porch” she didn’t mean literally or that it made her an expert in foreign policy”

Except she didn’t say that at all. That was a line in a comedy routine by Tina Fey

Now don’t go get the left confused trying to understand the difference between useful fiction and the facts.

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You’re wrong, EJ Moosa. Takes some amazing mental contortions to arrive at that justification.

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It seems that the closer we get to November, the more angered and verbally abusive the Right has become…why is that, one wonders…

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Excuse me but is not every citizen allowed to use the roads, are we not all given the opportunity to get an education, are grants not available to everyone who so wishes to apply for them?

We are all allowed to use the roads and such provided by the government.

So what is the sucessful business owner doing different to be successful?

Maybe thats the problem with the Presidents quote! I have no issue with the you didn’t build that soundbite.

But does he not basically discredit the hard work and smarts it takes to create a successful business, with his not only smart and not only hard working…..

So if weare all given the same infastructure then what are those who havebuilt that doing differently than those who have not built that?

In the quote provided President Obama litterally claims that people who have built their own business from the ground up were not able to do so because they were smarter than their competitiors and not because they out worked their competition.

So how did they do it then? Was the competition not allowed to use county or state roads? Maybe interstates?

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“For example, when our conservative Gov. Nathan Deal lobbies hard for federal money to deepen the harbor in Savannah, because of all the jobs and growth and business it will bring to Georgia, isn’t he too saying that business can’t do it on its own, that it needs government help and investment?”

No, he is trying to level the playing field for the dollars that may go to SC instead. He did not create the game, but he is required to play.

Now if the Feds did not give out dollars, and he went begging to the Feds for some, you would have a valid point.

But that is not what is happening is it?

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We have seen what 4 years of Obama’s ” leadership” has given us. He took a car that was ” just in ditch” as he likes to say…………..And taken it to the salvage yard. This man Has such a disdain for the private sector, upper middle class country club gated community wealth, the very successful ( other than Hollywood,certain music types)that he just can’t govern because of it. We are where we are because he just wants to even things out……..And you know, it’s the truth. Enabling these folks to do even better just ain’t in the cards for him.

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Seriously, the argument that Warren and Obama are saying something radical is downright ludicrous.

I’m shaking my head. The liberal standpoint has no real defense up against the radical brainwashing displayed here on this blog.

Good luck babysitting imbecile nation! I don’t envy you.

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“Dear USinUK, I think my interpretation is fair – a supreme egoist such as Obama, when he says “we,” is using the royal or editorial “we.””

oh

my

effing

god.

seriously. you can’t REALLY be this stupid. this is just a game, right??

when he said “change is not going to come if we wait for some other person or some other time.” he actually specifically was talking about “change is going to come because of YOU”

see extended comments here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EWLeKGI0ro

but, much like the LIES that the GOP is spouting, you are no different. you LIE and LIE and LIE because you cannot stand on the truth. so you twist Obama’s words because, at heart, you are no better than the liar you espouse.

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“Ben,
Like always you are a day late and a dollar short. You really are a few fries short of a happy meal…what a hoot!”

Well, except for the fact that my post rgarding blatant lies being spread by the DNC is 100% accurate.

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And the words were NOT taken out of context, cons.

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“All I’ve heard him say is that his millionaire friends will get more tax cuts if he is elected president ”

see, you have to be good at reading between the line. His millionaire friends will get the tax cuts…and the REST of us will share the sacrifice

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Ben Shockley

August 29th, 2012
9:46 am

Again Ben,

Please tell me what President Obama can do about all those things by himself? Please answer this time.

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“Sure, Common:
It begins with the words “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.””

Where’s the part about taking chunks of some people’s earnings and not others? Because if this is the contract you are referring to, it says we will all be treated equally under the law.

And no where does it say that we shall be subsidizing your life from cradle to grave.

You’ve taken a limited contract, and made it all inclusive. That was not the deal. You can have the all inclusive at your state level if you like, but not the federal level.

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ben@9:48

That’s pretty juvenile and sopmoric, good example of the party that mocked john kerry’s purple heart in 04 while their guy was mia in alabama…

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Rags believes the big lie…naturally this post is confusing to him.

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R. Danneskjold — “I think we can agree that the world’s greatest orator is a total idiot when it comes to simple grammar in standard English. For an educated person, the indefinite pronoun for a plural – “roads and bridges” – is “those,” not “that.”

You were clearly never taught about “collective plurals.” I’m terribly sorry that our educational system failed you.

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“Again Ben,

Please tell me what President Obama can do about all those things by himself? Please answer this time.”

He said he was going to fix all of those things when runninghis campaign in 2008. I have to assume he had a plan. Or was that all just another Orwellian lie????

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The Republican party continues to talk about Jesus, family values, the common man, but it just seems that if you don’t agree with everything said they spit hate and fire…
Why is that?

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Obama can’t do anything without Congress first writing and passing the legislation for him to sign. Damn, do they not teach Civics anymore?

Not on talk radio they don’t which is where these folks get all their “fears.”

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“That’s pretty juvenile and sopmoric, good example of the party that mocked john kerry’s purple heart in 04 while their guy was mia in alabama”

Don’t know if you heard, but the Dan Rather/CBS documents regarding Bush’s Texas Air Guard service were proven to be false.

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Fred

You know some people are all about “gimme” and “self”. They don’t acknowledge other people around them. It’s all about what benefits ME and ME only. I don’t even understand why you acknowledge the jackassery.

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“When the truth is not on your side you lie.”

Hence Ms. Wasserman Shultz’s lies about Romney’s position on abortion.

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Ben didn’t build his 9:43 am post.

He stole it, a cut and paste job that didn’t credit the author.

Been didn’t build his 9:48 post either, he stole that too.

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At the beginning of 2009, the Dems had the White House, Sentate and House.. if they wanted to raise taxes they could have and the Repubs could not have stopped them.. If the Dems really wanted to raise taxes then why did they not? Because they knew that an increase taxes would make a bad economy worse. It always will. SPIN SPIN SPIN is all the left has.
And once again, with all the spin not one single liberal has ever said what the tax rate should be on those who make over a certain amount of money.. All I get when I ask that question is more spin on how little they pay now.. Even though they pay a lot more in a year then I will pay in 10. What rate is high enough to make you libs happy? I think if it was 100% you would still hate those how have been more successful than you.

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DNC ought to have two conventions. One for Democrats…..and one for Loons.

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“Ben didn’t build his 9:43 am post.

He stole it, a cut and paste job that didn’t credit the author”

The same is true of virtually all of Bookman’s posts.

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Ben, I think that is the parallel ghost Democratic Convention schedule that you posted. Those proceedings will not be televised on CNN — only Al-Jazeera.

Too funny!

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DNC ought to have two conventions. One for Democrats…..and one for Loons.

No need. The loons are having their convention this week. It’s on TV, too!

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As long as we’re talking about lies, remember when Obama said he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first (only) term?

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Mick

August 29th, 2012
9:53 am

ben@9:48

That’s pretty juvenile and sopmoric, good example of the party that mocked john kerry’s purple heart in 04 while their guy was mia in alabama…
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Really? I thought it was freaking hilarious. And I’LL mock john kerry’s band aid scratch purple heart. He’s a poser AND a hoser.

Ben: Where did you get that from?

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“The same is true of virtually all of Bookman’s posts.”

Its not the same at all, Jay always credits the author and links to the source.

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Everybody knows that once you’ve built a factory and made a lot of money, you should be exempt from having to pay any more taxes. Paying taxes is the responsibility of the people who work in the factory, not the people who own the factory.

I can see where this policy would appeal to people who own factories? Do you own a factory? Or perhaps your great granddaddy owned a factory, and made enough so that you don’t have to worry about having to do any of that work business yourself.

If not, and you would even consider voting for Romney, then you are quite simply a fool when it comes to economics. Think about it. And turning on Fox News or talk radio does not constitute thinking. That is voluntary brainwashing. I’m not saying to turn to some other media source, just think for yourself.

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“My mom emailed it to me. Don’t know where it originated”

LMAO!!!

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Don’t forget about Obama’s contention that if he didn’t fix the economy he should be a one-termer. While maybe not technically a lie, he obviosly didn’t really mean it.

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Mick

August 29th, 2012
10:04 am

“ben

Right…blame dan rather but where oh where was he then??? ”

I dunno. There’s some pretty big gaps in Obama’s past too. Your selective curiousity is…..curious…..

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You have a great mom Ben!

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The word socialism is like crack to these GOP sheep

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BytMe:
The loons are having their convention this week. It’s on TV, too!

I didn’t watch, but I’d guess Sher Valenzuela, candidate for Lt. Gov. in Delaware, made a “I built it” speech.

(I built it, with a little help from my friends)

1998 First State Manufacturing got its feet on the ground with an initial $20,000 loan from the Small Business Administration.

1999 Earned larger contracts with assistance from local Procurement Technical Assistance Center (PTAC)

2001 It got a $65,800 disaster loan to deal with business fall-out from the Sept. 11 attacks.

2002 two loans from the SBA , one for $96,000 7(A) to modernize and expand inventory.

• FSM’s 40 employees now work out of facility funded by a $1.8 million SBA 504 loan.

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B. Shockley — “Don’t know if you heard, but the Dan Rather/CBS documents regarding Bush’s Texas Air Guard service were proven to be false.”

Don’t know if you heard, but that’s got nothing to do with the conservative mocking of Kerry’s awards and decorations during the 2004 campaigns.

And it’s pretty clear that you didn’t hear that while the Killian memos were discredited, there’s still very little documentary evidence that Bush satisfactorily performed his duty in AL in the latter half of 1972.

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My mom emailed it to me. Don’t know where it originated.

Well tell her I said thanks and it was hilarious.

I don’t know why folks can’t laugh at themselves or their party. Funny is funny and that was a humorous take on the DNC convention. To laugh doesn’t mean you have to agree with it. I thought this one was funny too when it came out:

http://twitpic.com/9jyrvh

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“Don’t know if you heard, but that’s got nothing to do with the conservative mocking of Kerry’s awards and decorations during the 2004 campaigns”

Real war heroes are guys who don’t go around bragging about getting a bandaid, guys like John McCain, Bob Dole, etc

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Mitt Romney–the real life Gordon Gekko. Be truthful about your past, Mitt.

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Simple Truths
August 29th, 2012
8:36 am

Jay glosses over the uproar when Mitt said “I like being able to fire people.”

Jay glosses over everything that doesn’t fit his far left agenda.

The problem with this column is most of us believe Obama means exactly whAt he said; that private business depends on a massive bloated inefficient government to be successful.

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Real war heroes don’t throw their medals away (which turned out to be fake medals) and then go before Congress and lie about American soldiers being baby killers,

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I left George H. W. Bush off my list of real war heroes. My bad.

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I’m waiting for the Ryan/Biden debate.

Should be a doozy… that SIX TRILLION DOLLAR man (spending he voted for) now being marketed
as a “deficit hawk”. Should be entertaining.

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B. Shockley — “Real war heroes don’t throw their medals away (which turned out to be fake medals) and then go before Congress and lie about American soldiers being baby killers,”

Excellent parody post, Mr. Shockley. It neatly encapsulates and demonstrates the very thesis of Jay’s initial post on the topic; that of the dishonest rewriting and misrepresentation of historical fact.

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Reagans ghost

August 29th, 2012
10:10 am

Nothing screams protecting women as having Bill Clinton speak at your convention.
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LOL and the hits just keep coming.

The poop powered motorcycle,”The lady looked flush” the DNC program, now this one.

I want to go fix a bowl of tomatoes and cucumbers for breakfast but then I’ll miss all the funnies…….. and I just got caught back up.

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If only Taxpayer could refute something I posted.

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“Keep reading….and then look up the word apportioned”

Ummm…”apportioned” does not occur in that section.

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Yea Debbie…..I get my level headed info and facts from Ed Schulz…….like all on here. The good stuff…

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Pizzaman — “Another .25 today?”

Regular unleaded was up 39 cents from 6 AM Monday to 6 AM today at the QT near my house. Clearly this is Obama’s fault.

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Well the GOP said…….. Deficits don’t matter……. Mission Accomplished………

All lies !

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Does “Community Organizer” count as military service in the liberal world?

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Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
9:48 am

I don’t care who you are that was hilarious.

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If only Taxpayer could refute something I posted.

Which time, ye of short memory.

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I gotta go do a little work. You libs keep on lying and high-fiving yourselves.

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I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !

Try to keep up, Scout. We’re laughing at Ben, not with him.

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Keeping Dems Honest: CNN’s Anderson Cooper Puts Truth First and Challeng…: http://youtu.be/_ywxcr7GT9w fincherstew.com

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Where is George W. Bush?

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Jay, it amazes me how far yu will go to defend this moron…Of course every succsessful person has some kind of help, whether it be your teaches in school, parents that supported you…duh, thats common knowledge, but it was the person’s hard work and dedication that made them successful..
That statement is a slap in the face of every successful buisness person in America…period!
And now it will come back to bite him in the a$$

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DDR

Good morning. Glad you are back. Keep giving them hell, not as much as the other night, but keep it up.

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B. Shockley — “Joe, are you willing to disavow government handouts and take rsponsibility for your own life?”

You have your orders, son.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486

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Hey Joe, speakign of housebroken, do you still “Depend” (pun intended) on government being there to wipe your butt?

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LOL..JHM is dancing!

Straight answers to direct questions are like kryptonite to liberals.

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JHM, you run along now little boy, this is a discussion for people wearing their big boy pants.

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Georgia on my mind…

August 29th, 2012
10:17 am

Are YOU registered to vote? YOU can register “right now”.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/vrinfo.htm
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Deadline for the November election is Oct 6th.

Hey Georgia on my Mind? Are you the one who keeps linking the Ludacris song of the same name? if so, thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM

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One of Mitt’s biggest failures in life was his failure to get the French to give up wine during the Vietnam War. He fought the good fight and gave it all he had only to come back from his tour of duty without a single medal to show for his courage and bravery overseas.

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Like I said …………. he’s giving you fits !

Out for awhile ……………. everyone be nice to other posters.

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JHM

Ben is attempting to keep Scout amused. So you can bet the bouncing ball on the noise his coming real soon.

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Someone done ruffled little Ben’s little feathers. Quick someone get the camera. Ben’s about to make a face.

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B. Shockley — “JHM, you run along now little boy, this is a discussion for people wearing their big boy pants.”

Sorry, son. Once you ran away yesterday, you forfeited any claim to adulthood.

“Speaking of pointing and laughing, little boy, everyone here has noted your impotence when faced with a direct question.”

Said the master of the art. (laughing, pointing)

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486

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TP – you should at least research Mitt’s mission work before you criticize it.

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I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !

You obviously don’t pay attention around here. Ben’s probaly had as many different screen names as you have.

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“Come on Joe, it’s not that hard of a question. Its a yes or no question.”

Joe’s not very good with those types of question.

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And when Ben said he had to go do a “little” work, that’s exactly irrefutably what he meant. We just didn’t know how little the work could be.

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So Fred, let me get this straight. An ex president, committing Adultery in the white house and has been accused of rape…not charged mind you, but accused, Is someone to speak for the party that is supposedly the voice of women’s rights.

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I pull the strings, Joe dances. And everybody laughs.

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Fred-don’t think so. Asshat came from me and I am no “noobie”

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OK Joe, I really have to go work now. You spend the rest of the day playing on your little blog, and brag about how you ran me off.

LMAO

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With the GOP its a one way street. Their record is bad.

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B. Shockley — “LMAO. Yeah, I went home at 5:00. I do that every day.”

You “went home” earlier than that on this thread.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486

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ben

You’re kind of like john carprenter’s “the thing”, back with a new tag but with the same old cliches and pablum – no thanks…

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Jay, well said. The problem is they have a mountain of money and pretty much will control the paid media message on the run down to the election. We all hated the Nazi, Joseph Goebels, but he was a master of his craft.

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“I asked Ben to clarify his comment”

Again, you don’t get to dictate how others respond. You’ve made that crystal clear to me on a couple occasions. And now you’re telling others they should clarify or answer your questions?

(pointing, laughing)

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Ben @ 9:48

Classic.

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An ex president, committing Adultery in the white house and has been accused of rape…not charged mind you, but accused, Is someone to speak for the party that is supposedly the voice of women’s rights.

Well, given the fact that Clinton was making Monica, Gennifer, and many other women happy when he decided to get into their wombs as opposed to the party that’s doing the opposite, seems that Clinton would have a bit of an advantage at claiming to speak on behalf of women’s rights.

You gotta remember, Clinton wasn’t the only one in DC committing Adultery. As a matter of fact, a leading Conservative candidate on this cycle has had his fair share of adultery. Neither party can accurately claim to speak on the rights of women, but that’s my $.02 opinion.

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Just in case someone hasn’t put this up already, here is what the President actually said about who built what:

“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”

I actually understood what he was saying and I believe most people here do also. However, the truth is obviously not good for ratings! I have my career now because when I was taking a summer class as a biology major, an Economics teacher made it so exciting and interesting, I changed my major after three years of college! I began wedding planning because someone saw in me the skills necessary to do the job and they took a chance and let me coordinate the most important day of their lives! We are a community and when one of us succeeds, we all succeed whether its directly or indirectly! #notalkingpoint

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that`s dig not did.

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Soothsayer @10:37: Amen. Just like a “mountain conservationist” is defined as someone who already built their house on the mountain.

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Republicans are for free speech. Except for Ron Paul.
Republicans are for rule of law. Except Rowe v. Wade
Republicans tell the hard truth. Except for certain tax information
Republicans are for equality. Except for tax breaks to the rich.
Republicans are for transparency and inclusion. Except for offshore accounts.
Republicans are for smaller government. Except for their own benefits and salaries.
Republicans are for respect. Except for anyone not Republican.
Republicans want peace. Except for pre-emptive war.
Republicans are for conciliation. Except they’re angry and resentful.
Republicans are for democracy. Except when they lose.
The list goes on, however anyone who advocates anything that Republicans currently stand for, and they are a long way from the reasonable party of Eisenhower, they’re just not paying attention.

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69?

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TP enough with your trademark straw man response…I said mission work, and you as expected respond with something else

Again, as for GCC, I gave you the microphone, the stage and the spotlight to articulate your position in 3 sentences and you blew it

If you can stay on point, I’ll be happy to debate, but I refuse to be distracted with your rabbit holes

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Do any of our conservative posters not see the hypocrisy in having someone like Sher Valenzuela speaking at the RNC convention?

Or do they somehow not see government loans and contracts as being ‘help?’ I can’t for the life of me see how that rationalize that sort of arrangement.

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Thank the Lord someone has finally gotten down to the truth. I haven’t had a TV for 12 years and of the few commercials and speeches that I have heard from the Republican party I can clearly see their misleading statements and quotes about our president. The House of Representatives have acted like adolescent boys since our President took office. Shame on them for the lies and lack of ability to work as a team for the American People. Thank you for your article. Valerie

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Steve-USA “None of the Above”

August 29th, 2012
10:43 am
Really? You people are arguing who invented “asshat”? Like it’s something to be proud of.

I invented asshat! ~ Al Gore

Just a fun distraction, calm down.

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The U.S. government’s drive to rebuild Iraq “put billions of American taxpayer dollars at risk of fraud, waste and abuse,” and the amount misspent will never be known, according to the final report by a U.S. watchdog agency.

The report by Special Inspector for Iraq Reconstruction Stuart Bowen, released today, questioned almost $636 million in costs through June. Auditors found such lapses as “inadequate reviews of contractors’ invoices,” a lack of sufficient oversight staff and poor recordkeeping, according to the report.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-13/iraq-rebuilding-risked-billions-in-funds-auditor-finds.html

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Well I’ll be… Glenn Kessler didn’t really take to Ann Romney’s speech last night…

In the theme of “You didn’t build that”…

Can an entire convention be built around a grammatical error?

However, in light of the GOP’s repeated misuse of this Obama quote in speech after speech, we feel compelled to increase the Pinocchio rating to Four. (Warning to Democrats: You will get the same scrutiny of out-of-context Romney quotes next week. It’s really a silly thing on which to base a campaign.)

That’s gotta be bad when the spouse of the candidate is included in on the “whopper” category. So looking forward to the Democratic Party getting called out for this crap if they pull the same thing. I wish people would just quit lying about each other and focus on what they would truthfully do. Then again, doing that would eliminate 99% of all elected candidates and their competition.

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Look at ” one in the same as Obama” New French President approval ratings in France. Oh my, it appears the money folks, the tax payers, the job creators ARE ALL FLEEING !!!!!!! GET A Clue AMERICA of Obama part 2 if allowed to happen. Thinks it’s bad now. Wait till the folks paying the bills skips. See France, exhibit 1.Oh course, you won’t see this in main stream. They wouldn’t dare tell it.

France? Really? Are THEY the “new Ireland” for your radio talk show host Gods to use? I mean that whole Ireland doesn’t tax corporations thing look how good they are doing kinda went to hell in a hand basket didn’t it. So now they are trying the “France is socialist” thing?

Newflash genius: France has been socialist for decades now. They are the ones who instituted the 32 hour work week.

Just damn, as if we needed MORE proof of how uneducated the hardcore right wing fanatics are………

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Rags said, “Dear USinUK, I think my interpretation is fair – a supreme egoist such as Obama, when he says “we,” is using the royal or editorial “we.”

Not meant to be taken seriously…

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Valerie Jansen

August 29th, 2012
10:44 am
+++++++++++++++++++++

Are yo8u the same Valerie who used to call up Neal Boortz and give him hell a few years ago?

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The bolded text in Obama’s statement doesn’t change the gist of what he said at all. There is no revision here. If Obama’s statement were out of character with his actions, you would have an argument. It isn’t out of character. It is consistent with most of Obama’s other statements and policies.

I’ll give you credit though for being embarrassed by the statement but the true revision comes from the democrats attempts to revise what Obama really meant.

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Valerie………………..No misleading from the Dems I guess…..All the Gospel?

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I rest my case

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Criticizing mission work that helps people? Can’t get any lower than that.

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Jim, Obama has never had a real job, so saying ” you didn’t build that” is something that is really something he doesn’t understand. Now, filling out government forms to get people free apartments is something he understands……But what business owners do to start and sustain a business…..He’s clueless..

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Tom, as your friends on here like to say….link please.

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Obama aide yesterday…..We need a 60% top federal rate and more spending and get rid of this damn expensive military……………………..See how easy it is Tom?

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Reagans ghost

August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
So Fred, let me get this straight. An ex president, committing Adultery in the white house and has been accused of rape…not charged mind you, but accused, Is someone to speak for the party that is supposedly the voice of women’s rights.

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Politics is full of ironies like that.

Ronald Reagan a huge family values kinda guy was married twice, forced himself on a lady named Selene Waters (not charged mind you!!) , impregnated then abandoned Jacqueline Park and also impregnanted
Nancy BEFORE they were married.

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Bennie said “Joe, are you willing to disavow government handouts and take rsponsibility for your own life?”

Ben doesn’t drive on roads, drink municipal water, or live in a country defended by US soldiers. He neither has nor wants fire protection, no police protection.

Ben is obviously full of something.

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Ben: “Hey Joe, speakign of housebroken, do you still “Depend” (pun intended) on government being there to wipe your butt?”

I’m just a Newby, but, is this Ben a “troll”?

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They BOTH

I know, but when has there ever been an entire campaign built on lies? At least every other previous candidate has told at least one truthful thing in the past.

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Jay, All of us, including those business owners, paid for this infrastructure but these business owners are the ones with the guts, dreams and insight to build something out of it and provide jobs to those of us who are too timid, lazy, uninterested, less driven, etc. Instead of being happy commuting to and from home, these guys sought ways to use that infrastructure to their benefit, and if they didn’t, there would be no jobs, there would be no federal, state or local government and we would all be sleeping under the stars wondering who was going to raid and plunder our tribe. We would be nothing as a nation if we did not have business. If business did not exist, where would your all powerful federal government get it’s revenue? (our problem now is that our government grown to the point that it is spending more than our economy can generate) Does this mean that everything business does is right. No, but Obama’s speech promoted the idea that we all deserve additional rewards because we helped build the infrastructure. Hogwash! We already have been rewarded; it’s called jobs and careers so Obama’s suggestion that we should be rewarded because we helped build that is a pure play to the lazy and ignorant.

So no, the Republicans are not rewriting or distorting Obama’s words. He sincerely believes that when one person does well, the government has the responsibility of redistributing the fruits of that persons labor to those that didn’t take the risk because “you didn’t build that on your own”. His speech suggests that everyone who works hard or is smart should be rewarded. There are no guarantees that if you work hard, or you are smart, you will get rewarded. In fact, most ventures fail. Does he believe that we should reward someone for working hard for something that has no chance of success? Does he believe that smart people should be rewarded if they don’t succeed? That speech sums up his philosophy and to most working people with dreams, his vision is not our vision of America. By the way, I am one of those who chose to not risk it all but I applaud those that do.

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Bro

It has been this way for a long long time. When you have time one day go look up the campaign rhetoric throughout history. It was pretty bad.

I agree that it might be worse, but it has always been to some degree or another in the gutter.

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They BOTH

I understand the rhetoric and all, and I generally tune it out. However, there are usually truths imbedded in the mudslinging that can be verified by fact. Such is not the case with Romney. Seems like his fact or fiction machine got stuck on fiction.

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In the middle…..thanks…I read it.

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Max – fair questions.

It seems to some of us that Romney offers little to the middle class except net tax increases, and cuts in governement services (which means fewer government employees, more unemployment, less demand for goods and services, etc.)

Maybe I’ll just stick with the devil I know…

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Madmax

What will a new Republican Administration do differently from the last one?

The last Republican Administration destroyed 4,560,000 manufacturing jobs in 8 years, while Obama has increased manufacturing employment by 532,000 since 1/2010. We see business in-sourcing jobs under Obama where skilled workers are more important than low cost workers. The last Republican administration inherited a 4% unemployment and doubled it to 8% at the end of the administration, inherited a surplus and turned it into a trillion dollar deficit, inherited Dow Jones Industrial Average of 10,500 that rose to 11,091 on June 7, 2001 when he signed legislation that started his tax cuts for the rich, but resulted in a 30% decrease to 8,000 by the end of the administration. Tickle down does not seem to work. Republicans make the economy worse, where Democrats make things gradually better.

Manufacturing Employment

Obama increase 532,000 since 1/2010
Last Republican Administration lost 4,560,000 in 8years.
Clinton increase 321,000 in 8 years.
Second to last Republican Administration lost 1,267,000 in 4 years.
Can somebody in the media say “outsourcing anti-American anti-union Republicans?”

What will a new Republican Administration do differently from the last one?

Total Nonfarm Employment

Obama increase last month 163,000 which is more than 14 times greater than last Republican Administration’s average

Since 2/2010 increase of 4,001,000 employees

Last Republican Administration 1,095,000 / 8 years = 136,875 / yr or 11,406 / mo. (all government employees due to Department of Homeland Security)

Clinton 22,740,000 / 8 years = 2,842,500 / yr or 236,875 / mo.
Carter 2,584,000 / yr or 215,400 / mo.

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Mr. Bookman pretends that “I’m not worried about the poor (because they’re being taken care of)” is equivalent to “you didn’t build that (because…other people helped you?).”

What Obama certainly was not doing was pointing out the plain fact that none of us live in vacuums or on islands. Obama was indeed claiming that business owners shouldn’t receive credit for their risk taking and hard work.

It is the height of irony that Bookman finds Orwellian spin (overreach, anyone?) in the GOP convention when he lives and cooperates to create a whole world of Orwellian spin.

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Tonto
$15,990,957,370,305 – only 9 billion left – up $2 billion from yesterday
12,612,893 out of work
23,090,871 out of work or underemployed
1 in 7 of our work force works for the government – put another way – 1/6 of your income is needed to just pay the government workforce (does not include actual program benefits)
$225,015,020,810 in carrying cost for the debt we have and rising – how many programs could we fund w/o that debt?
$1,053.647 – taxpayer unfunded liabilities
How are your kids going to pay that $1 million or are you waiting for Warren Buffet to die and leave all of it to Uncle Sam? By the way, even if he did, you would still have a $1 million dollar unfunded liability.
How much is Obamacare ging to add to this deficit? No body knows including the CBO. If you don’t believe me, read it, it’s full of caveats and then read their projections for Medicare, Medicaid, DOE etc when they were 1st passed.
What has the current administration done to address this problem?

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Note to self:

Rewriting Republican speeches, policy platforms to construe them as racist, bigotted = Orwellian rewriting of history.

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Madmax,

Well done setting the bait. If los tontos utiles are going to mention the Obama economic record (even if false or incorrect) it is a marginal victory for us. Then we can talk about what Obama wants to pretend everyone will forget before the election–8% unemployment, rising prices, high debt.

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Martin the ungrateful

What will a new Republican Administration do differently from the last one?

They want to make the Government of the United States of America small, weak, and ineffective. There ideal is to turn America into Somalia. Somalia has no income tax, no regulations and a small, weak, and ineffective government. There the winners are those that can cheat the other guy first or have the guns to kill their opponents and take their money. Do you think if we took your small business and moved it to Somalia or a deserted island that you would be as successful as being in America? What these Republicans are doing is trashing our country saying that we don’t have the best government in the world. Fine, as they say love it or leave it and then do it on your own

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RNC 2012: Christie’s speech was better than the reviews it’s gotten.
Kyle Wingfield, August 29, 2012

I WAS KICKED OFF OF KYLE WINGFIELD’S BLOG FOR STANDING UP

FOR OUR FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA.

Because I responded to a blogger who called our First Lady Moo-chelle

and who said that she was fat because I called Chris Christe fat.

I also stated that New Jersey’s unemployment rate was 9.8% and

the national rate is 8.3%.

I GUESS KYLE WINGFIELD CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

If you have an OPPOSING VIEW Kyle Wingfield with KICK YOU

OFF HIS BLOG.

It is okay if you say anything NEGATIVE about President Obama and

Michelle Obama.

THIS IS HOW LOW THE CONS HAVE GONE.

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Nothing’s gonna change my world – unless You and I go vote.

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”

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How come they still allow commie-secular holidays in this great country?

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