GOP stoops to Orwellian rewriting of history
Remember when Mitt Romney told America that he just didn’t give a rip about poor people?
He did, you know. He said it word for word, on Feb. 1, 2012, and I quote:
“I’m not concerned about the very poor.”
Of course, that’s not what Romney meant, and everyone knew that’s not what he meant. Taken in context, he meant that the safety net for the very poor remains intact, and that the real challenges lay in solving the problems of the middle class. So after a brief kerfuffle in which a few people tried irresponsibly to make his statement into something it clearly wasn’t, everybody moved on.
Contrast that to what the Republicans are doing with Obama’s “You didn’t build that” statement. Like Romney, he said it word for word: “You didn’t build that.” And just like Romney, that is not what he meant and everyone knows that’s not what he meant.
Taken in context, he meant that no person or business succeeds alone. For those who care about such things, here are his actual remarks:
“Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that.”
In my mind, it says a lot that the Republicans are building their 2012 convention message, and much of their 2012 campaign, around what they know in their hearts to be a blatant lie. That lie is repeated and repeated and repeated, and it gets no more truthful with each iteration. In fact, as demonstrated by an RNC video shown at the convention last night, it gets worse.
Note that the audio has been edited to remove the entire runup to the magic four words — the part in bold above — leaving behind no audible trace that Obama ever uttered it. The words simply vanish, and history is altered. As George Orwell wrote in 1984:
“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”
It is distressing to see so many Americans gleefully embrace and rally around what they know in their hearts to be a doctored version of history. And it gives an ironic twist to the fine words of N.J. Gov. Chris Christie last night in his speech to the GOP convention, in which he stressed the importance of telling the truth to the American people:
“We’ve never been a country to shy away from the truth,” he said. “History shows that we stand up when it counts and it’s this quality that has defined our character and our significance in the world.”
“Standing up when it counts” does not mean basing much of a campaign on an obvious, shameless lie. Not in New Jersey, and not anywhere else in this great country.
Except perhaps in Tampa.
– Jay Bookman
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Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:12 am
Real war heroes don’t throw their medals away (which turned out to be fake medals) and then go before Congress and lie about American soldiers being baby killers,
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:12 am
B. Shockley — “Real war heroes are guys who don’t go around bragging about getting a bandaid, guys like John McCain, Bob Dole, etc.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:13 am
I left George H. W. Bush off my list of real war heroes. My bad.
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:13 am
If only Ben had something irrefutable to share with us.
Tundra Dude
August 29th, 2012
10:13 am
I’m waiting for the Ryan/Biden debate.
Should be a doozy… that SIX TRILLION DOLLAR man (spending he voted for) now being marketed
as a “deficit hawk”. Should be entertaining.
Reagans ghost
August 29th, 2012
10:13 am
A lib asking someone to be truthful about his past with this guy in office is just rich.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:13 am
B. Shockley — “Real war heroes don’t throw their medals away (which turned out to be fake medals) and then go before Congress and lie about American soldiers being baby killers,”
Excellent parody post, Mr. Shockley. It neatly encapsulates and demonstrates the very thesis of Jay’s initial post on the topic; that of the dishonest rewriting and misrepresentation of historical fact.
DannyX
August 29th, 2012
10:13 am
Speaking of Reagan’s ghost, maybe the Republicans can play the video of Reagan signing the Earned Income Tax Credit into law at their convention. Show the part where Reagan claims the EITC is “the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job creation measure to come out of Congress.”
You know the law that helped 47% paying no federal income tax. The law that all Republicans just hate.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:14 am
Reagans ghost
August 29th, 2012
10:10 am
Nothing screams protecting women as having Bill Clinton speak at your convention.
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LOL and the hits just keep coming.
The poop powered motorcycle,”The lady looked flush” the DNC program, now this one.
I want to go fix a bowl of tomatoes and cucumbers for breakfast but then I’ll miss all the funnies…….. and I just got caught back up.
Pizzaman
August 29th, 2012
10:14 am
While the Gov is at play,
Gas companies gouge away,
Another .25 today?
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:14 am
If only Taxpayer could refute something I posted.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Welcome back, Ms. DoRight. Hope you’ll stay for a while.
Doggone/GA
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
“Keep reading….and then look up the word apportioned”
Ummm…”apportioned” does not occur in that section.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
“Excellent parody post, Mr. Shockley. It neatly encapsulates and demonstrates the very thesis of Jay’s initial post on the topic; that of the dishonest rewriting and misrepresentation of historical fact.”
Well, except that John Kerry did both of those things.
Reagans ghost
August 29th, 2012
10:16 am
Yea Debbie…..I get my level headed info and facts from Ed Schulz…….like all on here. The good stuff…
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:16 am
“Excellent parody post, Mr. Shockley. It neatly encapsulates and demonstrates the very thesis of Jay’s initial post on the topic; that of the dishonest rewriting and misrepresentation of historical fact.”
Think youi have me confused with Debbie Wasserman Shultz and/or Harry Reid.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:16 am
Pizzaman — “Another .25 today?”
Regular unleaded was up 39 cents from 6 AM Monday to 6 AM today at the QT near my house. Clearly this is Obama’s fault.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 29th, 2012
10:16 am
He libs. !
I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !
Welcome aboard Ben ……………. fire at will !
Peter
August 29th, 2012
10:16 am
Well the GOP said…….. Deficits don’t matter……. Mission Accomplished………
All lies !
the cat
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Fred-um no. I coined the phrase asshat, actually I stole it from Big Bang Theory but I wrote it here first.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Does “Community Organizer” count as military service in the liberal world?
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
B. Shockley — “Well, except that John Kerry did both of those things.”
Nope and nope.
“Think youi have me confused with Debbie Wasserman Shultz and/or Harry Reid.”
No, I’m right on target with you.
Peadawg
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
9:48 am
I don’t care who you are that was hilarious.
Georgia on my mind...
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Are YOU registered to vote? YOU can register “right now”.
http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/vrinfo.htm
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:18 am
If only Taxpayer could refute something I posted.
Which time, ye of short memory.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:18 am
0311 — “I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !”
Only in the same way that a new puppy, not yet housebroken, would do.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:18 am
I gotta go do a little work. You libs keep on lying and high-fiving yourselves.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:18 am
Hey DDR. Welcome back. I made you a dedication Monday, (or Tuesday, I forget which), I’ll post it again below.
I agree about the Boortz thing. I used to love him and listened every day. But as you said, he just got hateful and repetitive. When I had a neighbor tell me, ‘i just HATE Democrats” and mean it I realized how much power he had over folks. And this guy is someone you would THINK was sane.
Anyway, here was your song from the other day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdXjm8pZMws
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:19 am
I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !
Try to keep up, Scout. We’re laughing at Ben, not with him.
Jose
August 29th, 2012
10:19 am
and we all misunderstood HOPE AND CHANGE when we heard it in 2008
we took it OUT OF CONTEXT
and now we are paying the price
Joseph
August 29th, 2012
10:19 am
Keeping Dems Honest: CNN’s Anderson Cooper Puts Truth First and Challeng…: http://youtu.be/_ywxcr7GT9w fincherstew.com
Common Sense
August 29th, 2012
10:19 am
“Keep reading….and then look up the word apportioned”
Ummm…”apportioned” does not occur in that section.
Ummm, but it is in that same social contract that you want to cherry pick…
Dixie Chicks
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
Where is George W. Bush?
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
Anybody want to see Joe Hussein Momma dance? here you go…watch this…
Joe, are you willing to disavow government handouts and take rsponsibility for your own life?
Mark T
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
Jay, it amazes me how far yu will go to defend this moron…Of course every succsessful person has some kind of help, whether it be your teaches in school, parents that supported you…duh, thats common knowledge, but it was the person’s hard work and dedication that made them successful..
That statement is a slap in the face of every successful buisness person in America…period!
And now it will come back to bite him in the a$$
barking frog
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
Debbie Do
enjoy the spanking?
They BOTH suck
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
DDR
Good morning. Glad you are back. Keep giving them hell, not as much as the other night, but keep it up.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:21 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 29th, 2012
10:16 am
He libs. !
I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !
Welcome aboard Ben ……………. fire at will !
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Ben a new guy? You don’t come here often anymore do you Scout? Ben’s BEEN here a while now.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:21 am
B. Shockley — “Joe, are you willing to disavow government handouts and take rsponsibility for your own life?”
You have your orders, son.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486
Peadawg
August 29th, 2012
10:21 am
“Clearly this is Obama’s fault.”
Isaac is Obama’s fault just like Katrina’s was W’s fault.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:21 am
Hey Joe, speakign of housebroken, do you still “Depend” (pun intended) on government being there to wipe your butt?
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:22 am
the cat
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Fred-um no. I coined the phrase asshat, actually I stole it from Big Bang Theory but I wrote it here first.
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Um Cat, no you didn’t. You are a noobie here. I’ve been using it for years. It’s a gamer term, you wouldn’t understand.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:22 am
LOL..JHM is dancing!
Straight answers to direct questions are like kryptonite to liberals.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:23 am
B. Shockley — “Hey Joe, speakign of housebroken, do you still “Depend” (pun intended) on government being there to wipe your butt?”
Doubling down on the implied insult. Don’t you have any *original* material, Ben? (laughing, pointing)
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:23 am
JHM, you run along now little boy, this is a discussion for people wearing their big boy pants.
DannyX
August 29th, 2012
10:24 am
“You have your orders, son.”
Ben hasn’t been able to find a cut and paste answer yet.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:24 am
Georgia on my mind…
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Are YOU registered to vote? YOU can register “right now”.
http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/vrinfo.htm
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Deadline for the November election is Oct 6th.
Hey Georgia on my Mind? Are you the one who keeps linking the Ludacris song of the same name? if so, thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kH_EZF0XqM
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:24 am
“Doubling down on the implied insult. Don’t you have any *original* material, Ben?”
Speaking of pointing and laughing, little boy, everyone here has noted your impotence when faced with a direct question.
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:24 am
One of Mitt’s biggest failures in life was his failure to get the French to give up wine during the Vietnam War. He fought the good fight and gave it all he had only to come back from his tour of duty without a single medal to show for his courage and bravery overseas.
Peadawg
August 29th, 2012
10:24 am
Joe @ 10:21
First line of your comment was “Your answer was non-responsive”. Did you not like Ben’s response? Too bad. You want a different response from Ben? Too bad. So sad. You don’t get to dictate how others respond.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
August 29th, 2012
10:25 am
Like I said …………. he’s giving you fits !
Out for awhile ……………. everyone be nice to other posters.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:25 am
B. Shockley — “LOL..JHM is dancing!”
Not at all. We’re just continuing our conversation of yesterday, in which Jay warned you and you ran like a rabbit.
“Straight answers to direct questions are like kryptonite to liberals.”
Then you’ll have no problem providing the answer you were asked for repeatedly yesterday. Or is giving a straight answer like kryptonite to you?
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486
They BOTH suck
August 29th, 2012
10:25 am
JHM
Ben is attempting to keep Scout amused. So you can bet the bouncing ball on the noise his coming real soon.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:25 am
Come on Joe, it’s not that hard of a question. Its a yes or no question.
Take a stab at it. Be brave.
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:26 am
Someone done ruffled little Ben’s little feathers.
Quick someone get the camera. Ben’s about to make a face.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:26 am
“Not at all. We’re just continuing our conversation of yesterday, in which Jay warned you and you ran like a rabbit.”
LMAO. Yeah, I went home at 5:00. I do that every day.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:26 am
B. Shockley — “JHM, you run along now little boy, this is a discussion for people wearing their big boy pants.”
Sorry, son. Once you ran away yesterday, you forfeited any claim to adulthood.
“Speaking of pointing and laughing, little boy, everyone here has noted your impotence when faced with a direct question.”
Said the master of the art. (laughing, pointing)
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:27 am
JHM, are you white? You dance like a white guy…i.e. not very well.
Ewrin's cat
August 29th, 2012
10:28 am
TP – you should at least research Mitt’s mission work before you criticize it.
Soothsayer
August 29th, 2012
10:28 am
14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism.
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections
I wonder how many of our friends on the Right will admit that the above is what is drummed into their brains each and every day that they listen to talk radio.
What’s amazing is that most of these could easily be listed as conservative tenets. Think about it.
Brosephus™
August 29th, 2012
10:28 am
I see this new guy Ben is giving you guys fits !
You obviously don’t pay attention around here. Ben’s probaly had as many different screen names as you have.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:29 am
Joe, I’ll ask you again, I don’t want your lib buddies to lose respect for you. It’s a simple yes or no question. Be brave.
Joe, are you willign to take responsibility for your own life and live without the government safety net?
Peadawg
August 29th, 2012
10:29 am
“Come on Joe, it’s not that hard of a question. Its a yes or no question.”
Joe’s not very good with those types of question.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:29 am
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:27 am
JHM, are you white? You dance like a white guy…i.e. not very well.
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That is so wrong in so many ways………. but still funny. And no I’m NOT taking sides in this little spats, just acknowledging the funny.
Now ME on the otherhand, I CAn dance and am white. But then I’m………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui1tUS6Ho-c
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
And when Ben said he had to go do a “little” work, that’s exactly irrefutably what he meant. We just didn’t know how little the work could be.
Thulsa Doom
August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
So when it says you didn’t built “that” then “that” is not supposed to refer to business earlier in the same sentence. “That” is supposed to refer to something in an entirely different sentence. That is beyond stupid.
Reagans ghost
August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
So Fred, let me get this straight. An ex president, committing Adultery in the white house and has been accused of rape…not charged mind you, but accused, Is someone to speak for the party that is supposedly the voice of women’s rights.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:31 am
Peadawg — “First line of your comment was “Your answer was non-responsive”. Did you not like Ben’s response? Too bad.”
I asked Ben to clarify his comment, which I clearly stated appeared to be a personal insult. Ben has repeatedly refused to clarify while simultaneously accusing me of not wanting to answer direct questions. Simply put, Ben won’t *get* any more direct answers from me unless and until he supplies one to my satisfaction.
“You want a different response from Ben? Too bad. So sad. You don’t get to dictate how others respond.”
And neither does Ben, which you fail to note. If Ben doesn’t have the stones to fully clarify what he said, then he’s got not basis for deriding others for not responding to *his* satisfaction to queries he makes.
You really should read that entire thread before commenting further, Peadawg.
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:31 am
I pull the strings, Joe dances. And everybody laughs.
Jay
August 29th, 2012
10:31 am
DDR’s suspension ends tomorrow, not today.
the cat
August 29th, 2012
10:31 am
Fred-don’t think so. Asshat came from me and I am no “noobie”
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:32 am
B. Shockley — “Come on Joe, it’s not that hard of a question. Its a yes or no question. Take a stab at it. Be brave.”
You have your orders.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486
Ben Shockley
August 29th, 2012
10:32 am
OK Joe, I really have to go work now. You spend the rest of the day playing on your little blog, and brag about how you ran me off.
LMAO
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:33 am
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
And when Ben said he had to go do a “little” work, that’s exactly irrefutably what he meant. We just didn’t know how little the work could be.
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LOL
Jefferson
August 29th, 2012
10:33 am
With the GOP its a one way street. Their record is bad.
Thulsa Doom
August 29th, 2012
10:33 am
“JHM, are you white? You dance like a white guy…i.e. not very well.”
Damn. That was funny. But if woulda been funnier had Ben added (pointing, laughing) at the end.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:33 am
B. Shockley — “LMAO. Yeah, I went home at 5:00. I do that every day.”
You “went home” earlier than that on this thread.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486
skydog
August 29th, 2012
10:33 am
The last act Richard Nixon did on earth was an illegal act.
Nixon wanted to be buried in his parents back yard in San Clemente when he died. His lawyers told him that was illegal. After more research, they found out that if someone were to bury themselves in San Clemente illegally, the city could not did you up, they could only fine the estate.
Nixon paid the fine.
Jay
August 29th, 2012
10:34 am
Ben, one last warning:
If you come here to pick fights with individual posters, you are not welcome.
If you come here to debate and discuss the world of politics, you are more than welcome.
So far, your contributions amount almost exclusively to the first, with little or none of the second.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:34 am
Reagans ghost
August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
So Fred, let me get this straight. An ex president, committing Adultery in the white house and has been accused of rape…not charged mind you, but accused, Is someone to speak for the party that is supposedly the voice of women’s rights.
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Blow it out your ass. You made the comment to be funny and it was. I understood each and every nuance of what you were saying. Pick a cat fight over the definition of is with JHM, he enjoys that silly crap.
Mick
August 29th, 2012
10:34 am
ben
You’re kind of like john carprenter’s “the thing”, back with a new tag but with the same old cliches and pablum – no thanks…
TaxPayer
August 29th, 2012
10:34 am
Erwin, you could at least research global warming before your criticize.
Now as for your beloved Gordon Gekko, aka, Mitt Romney,
For Mitt, who grew up worshipping his tall, craggily handsome, politically moderate father, life was less rocky: Cranbrook prep school in suburban Detroit, followed by Stanford in the Sixties, a missionary term in which he spent two and a half years trying (as he said) to persuade the French to “give up your wine,” and Harvard Business School in the Seventies. Then, faced with making a career choice, Mitt chose an odd one: Already married and a father of two, he left Harvard and eschewed both politics and the law to enter the at-the-time unsexy world of financial consulting.
You might want to research him a little more before you criticize me for posting about his own words, Erwin.
yuzeyurbrane
August 29th, 2012
10:34 am
Jay, well said. The problem is they have a mountain of money and pretty much will control the paid media message on the run down to the election. We all hated the Nazi, Joseph Goebels, but he was a master of his craft.
Mark T
August 29th, 2012
10:35 am
I agree.
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Without the bus driver the kid doesn’t get to school to make the A. He doesn’t get to school to learn the material to take the test. Without the carpenter he doesn’t HAVE a school.
No man is an island.
Wow…you libs are really reaching
Peadawg
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
“I asked Ben to clarify his comment”
Again, you don’t get to dictate how others respond. You’ve made that crystal clear to me on a couple occasions. And now you’re telling others they should clarify or answer your questions?
(pointing, laughing)
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
the cat
August 29th, 2012
10:31 am
Fred-don’t think so. Asshat came from me and I am no “noobie”
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No. It didn’t. As far as being a noobie, if you post under other alts I can’t help that. but as “the cat” you ARE a noob.
Yo Brocephus, can you come set this noob straight on the origins of asshat on this blog?
Obama is over
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
Ben @ 9:48
Classic.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
B. Shockley — “JHM, are you white? You dance like a white guy…i.e. not very well.”
You have your orders. (laughing)
“Joe, I’ll ask you again, I don’t want your lib buddies to lose respect for you. It’s a simple yes or no question. Be brave. Joe, are you willign to take responsibility for your own life and live without the government safety net?”
You have your orders. (laughing)
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/08/28/as-gop-convention-kicks-off-obama-still-favorite/?cp=14#comment-1052486
“I pull the strings, Joe dances. And everybody laughs.”
You comment a lot on what “everybody’s doing,,” but those who say they’re laughing also say they’re laughing at *you.*
“OK Joe, I really have to go work now. You spend the rest of the day playing on your little blog, and brag about how you ran me off. LMAO”
No bragging required. The evidence speaks for itself. (giggling)
Hurry back, chew-toy.
Brosephus™
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
An ex president, committing Adultery in the white house and has been accused of rape…not charged mind you, but accused, Is someone to speak for the party that is supposedly the voice of women’s rights.
Well, given the fact that Clinton was making Monica, Gennifer, and many other women happy when he decided to get into their wombs as opposed to the party that’s doing the opposite, seems that Clinton would have a bit of an advantage at claiming to speak on behalf of women’s rights.
You gotta remember, Clinton wasn’t the only one in DC committing Adultery. As a matter of fact, a leading Conservative candidate on this cycle has had his fair share of adultery. Neither party can accurately claim to speak on the rights of women, but that’s my $.02 opinion.
Economics 101
August 29th, 2012
10:37 am
Corporations + Goods = Profits
Government + Laws = Services
In the Middle
August 29th, 2012
10:37 am
Just in case someone hasn’t put this up already, here is what the President actually said about who built what:
“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
“The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”
I actually understood what he was saying and I believe most people here do also. However, the truth is obviously not good for ratings! I have my career now because when I was taking a summer class as a biology major, an Economics teacher made it so exciting and interesting, I changed my major after three years of college! I began wedding planning because someone saw in me the skills necessary to do the job and they took a chance and let me coordinate the most important day of their lives! We are a community and when one of us succeeds, we all succeed whether its directly or indirectly! #notalkingpoint
Soothsayer
August 29th, 2012
10:37 am
I think Ben, like most of the pompous Right, revels in his independence until he loses his job.
Then, guess what? He’ll be right there in that unemployment line and probably lining up for SNAP and AFDC. And, SChip for his kids. Who wants to bet?
skydog
August 29th, 2012
10:37 am
that`s dig not did.
Brosephus™
August 29th, 2012
10:40 am
Yo Brocephus, can you come set this noob straight on the origins of asshat on this blog?
I think there has only been one ejection for calling someone an asshat (oops, I didn’t mean to say that Jay
..) meant to say calling someone buttocks headgear, and that record belongs to Fred.
Fred ™
August 29th, 2012
10:40 am
Soothsayer @10:37: Amen. Just like a “mountain conservationist” is defined as someone who already built their house on the mountain.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
August 29th, 2012
10:40 am
Where is Dick Cheney and Karl Rove?
jwc
August 29th, 2012
10:41 am
Republicans are for free speech. Except for Ron Paul.
Republicans are for rule of law. Except Rowe v. Wade
Republicans tell the hard truth. Except for certain tax information
Republicans are for equality. Except for tax breaks to the rich.
Republicans are for transparency and inclusion. Except for offshore accounts.
Republicans are for smaller government. Except for their own benefits and salaries.
Republicans are for respect. Except for anyone not Republican.
Republicans want peace. Except for pre-emptive war.
Republicans are for conciliation. Except they’re angry and resentful.
Republicans are for democracy. Except when they lose.
The list goes on, however anyone who advocates anything that Republicans currently stand for, and they are a long way from the reasonable party of Eisenhower, they’re just not paying attention.
Joe Hussein Mama
August 29th, 2012
10:41 am
Peadawg — “Again, you don’t get to dictate how others respond.”
I *do,* however, get to dictate how *I* respond, and I told Ben that I wouldn’t answer any more of his questions unless and until he answered *that one* to my satisfaction. Read that thread, please.
“You’ve made that crystal clear to me on a couple occasions. And now you’re telling others they should clarify or answer your questions?”
I clarify *my* comments when asked. I elaborate on *my* posts when asked. Why shouldn’t ben do the same? I don’t need to make veiled personal insults like Ben does in an effort to get under the skin of others. IMO, Ben was clearly making a personal insult and then trying to dodge responsibility for having made it. Further, he’s pretty clearly doing the same thing you’ve accused me of, yet you
“(pointing, laughing)”
Once again, you really need to read that thread.
skydog
August 29th, 2012
10:41 am
69?
Reagans ghost
August 29th, 2012
10:41 am
Look at ” one in the same as Obama” New French President approval ratings in France. Oh my, it appears the money folks, the tax payers, the job creators ARE ALL FLEEING !!!!!!! GET A Clue AMERICA of Obama part 2 if allowed to happen. Thinks it’s bad now. Wait till the folks paying the bills skips. See France, exhibit 1.Oh course, you won’t see this in main stream. They wouldn’t dare tell it.