As GOP convention kicks off, Obama still favorite

With the 2012 Republican Convention about to open its doors, here’s how the race shapes up at the moment, based on RealClearPolitics’ poll average:

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In other words, too close to call. The investors at Intrade still make Obama the favorite, with 55.8 percent of dollars invested favoring the incumbent and 43.7 percent predicting a Romney victory. At fivethirtyeight.com, Nate Silver predicts a 2.4 percentage point margin for Obama come Nov. 6, with a 69.3 percent chance of an Obama re-election.

And according to Gallup, 58 percent of Americans believe Obama will be re-elected, compared to 36 percent who predict a Romney victory. Among Democrats, 86 percent predict victory for Obama, while Republicans are less confident in their champion, with just 65 percent predicting that it will be Romney raising his hand to take the oath of office in January.

Still a long way to go, including debates. But at this point Obama is showing strength, especially considering how poorly he should be doing as predicted by models that focus solely on the economy.

– Jay Bookman

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Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
1:50 pm

“To what government dependence do you refer?”

The one you liberals demand.

Al

August 28th, 2012
1:51 pm

Slightly ironic that people who hate the fact that W’s name still pops up are the very same people who kept bringing up Jimmy Carter during the last election, and Carter was president a generation ago. Bringing up Bush now is a cheap shot, but bringing up Carter in 2008 was fair game?

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August 28th, 2012
1:51 pm

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
1:46 pm

I bet that you and your I.Q. couldn’t come up with an answer that made sense. Ben, you’re a hoot…and great for morale around here. No matter how down someone gets here, they can always read your “stuff” and feel a whole lot better.

the cat

August 28th, 2012
1:51 pm

And why/how would you know that if you were not a fan?

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
1:50 pm
“What is the obsession with DragonCon Ben?”

You’d have to ask Kamchak. He’s the guy/girl who named himself/herself after a character from the world of gor.

Never heard of it myself just seems you have a fascination with someone on a blog you do not know. You are a strange little man.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 28th, 2012
1:52 pm

JAY,

The posters are starting to compare test scores…what indeed is your blog coming to!! :-)

That Black Guy

August 28th, 2012
1:52 pm

Fred ™

August 28th, 2012
11:47 am
Thank God that stupid isn’t contagious
_________________________________________
Actually Fred, it is.

Anyone willing to blindly follow EITHER of these parties was infected by someone else.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 28th, 2012
1:52 pm

You and Eric Rudolph.

Eric Robert Rudolph is currently incarcerated at ADX Florence, a supermax facility in Colorado, and not in N.C..

That 98th percentile thingie doesn’t mean what you think it means.

getalife

August 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

ron paul delegates are standing up at the convention.

Divide and conquer.

Jefferson

August 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

Who was in power before the S&L bailout ? yep, the same ole crowd responsible for 2008.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

“And why/how would you know that if you were not a fan?”

google

Another episode of one-word answers to stupid liberal questions.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

Ben Shockley: “Not intended to be a factual statement.”

Well that’s cute, but you still don’t offer any explanation of your objection to my claim. I understand it would be painful to you to dismantle your worldview, which facing the grim facts I’m presenting you with would require you to do, but refusing to face the facts of the situation as they are is not shielding you from their effects.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

Biden speaking at 3:00 a.m. would be a brilliant strategic move by the Dems. I shudder every time I consider the possibility of him being the next Pres…. I can’t even say it. Followed by Nanny Pelosi? Lord help us! So far we have dodged that bullet….. let’s change while we still can!!!!!!

sam

August 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

i wonder which one of Ann’s cadillacs she drove to Tampa?

the cat

August 28th, 2012
1:54 pm

Kamchak-LOL!!!!

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
1:55 pm

“I bet that you and your I.Q. couldn’t come up with an answer that made sense. ”

I was channeling Kamchak/Jamvet/Joe Hussein Momma, all of whom refuse to answer direct questions.

Try googling “ironic” and see what you come up with.

Paul

August 28th, 2012
1:55 pm

Ben Shockley

“cat, my SAT and GMAT were both 98th percentile.”

Thanks for settling the blog’s long-running debate on whether or not a test taken in one’s relative youth is a good predictor of clear thinking, logic, rationality and healthy interpersonal skills in later years.

the cat

August 28th, 2012
1:55 pm

This is rich-Ben sees a blogger’s handle and googles it to find out the definition. I reiterate-you are a strange little man.

Welcome to the Occupation

August 28th, 2012
1:55 pm

Ben, I don’t think that you quite want to face up to what a rigged game this is, and how it makes a mockery of any notion of justice worth believing in. But the rich and powerful are sure happy for you to keep playing the game thank you.

Jay

August 28th, 2012
1:56 pm

Stevie, as long as it’s merely test scores they’re comparing, I think we’re OK.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

August 28th, 2012
1:56 pm

Welcome – Nice come-back sir. Are you part of the 47% that pay no federal or state income tax, occupy wall-street groupies, or just someone who likes to give your money to others. The world is not perfect, people should only get what they work hard for in life. Remember Pres John Kennedy, Democrat, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what YOU can do for your country”? My god, how you liberal Democrats have changed. I am sick and tired of my tax-paying money(even thru retirement) paying for others who choose not to work and let the govt support them!

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
1:57 pm

“Well that’s cute, but you still don’t offer any explanation of your objection to my claim.”

Try this one…the rich pay a vast majority of all taxes, as opposed to thse who get governmetn checks. To call teh ruich “freeloaders” is, well…how can I say this in a way such that Bookman won’t feel compelled to ban me….indicative if a somewhat limited intellectual capacity.

getalife

August 28th, 2012
1:57 pm

Stop pretending to be intelligent cons.

Intellectually dishonest is not intelligent.

It is just lies.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
1:57 pm

B. Shockley — “The one you liberals demand.”

Insufficient. If you’re going to imply that I’m personally receiving some sort of government assistance, then you need to have the courage of your convictions and be specific.

Once again, to what government dependence do you refer?

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
1:59 pm

B. Shockley — “I was channeling Kamchak/Jamvet/Joe Hussein Momma, all of whom refuse to answer direct questions.”

Denied. I frequently answer direct questions. Besides, you’ve been asked a direct question twice now that you have yet to respond to substantively.

You might want to moderate your behavior today, given that Jay’s already banned two regulars in the last 24 hours.

Cosby

August 28th, 2012
1:59 pm

Intrade..is that like e-trade…..gee who did they ask..mostly democrats, people like Jay who have that tingly feeling runing down his leg..face it..this country is divided about 50-50..those on the take and want big brother to take care of them while they look at stupid reality shows and others, who acutally work and then have other interest and do not even turn on the stupid box on the wall….but hang in there Jay, you may get just what you want..another 4 years of Barry..but do not be surprised if you do not like the out come of that

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:01 pm

Jay — “Stevie, as long as it’s merely test scores they’re comparing, I think we’re OK.”

S’all right. Shockley’s test scores don’t really compare to mine anyway.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:01 pm

“If you’re going to imply that I’m personally receiving some sort of government assistance”

That’s not what I implied. You want that safety net there in case you do need it, and you want others to pay for it.

Reading is fundamental.

Jefferson

August 28th, 2012
2:02 pm

Tom, you don’t support anyone other than maybe yourself and family so stop with the pats on your back. What a crock. And you are tired, I’ll agree.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 28th, 2012
2:02 pm

JAY,

Good answer..its surreptitious but there is no shortage of banty roostering..Heck i once got suspended from school for convincing my entire 11th grade class to stand out on ledge so when substitute teacher returned it appeared her class disappeared..better than test scores anytime..

Did Joe Biden really not go to FL because of pending storm? One could argue that everytime he opens his mouth…the GOP wants to throw him money..

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August 28th, 2012
2:02 pm

Paul,
I think you are too deep for the boy… :lol:

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:03 pm

“I reiterate-you are a strange little man.”

First you said I was a 12-yr-old girl, then you said I was a strange little man. I’m 6′0″ and 195 pounds. i find your fascination with my physique a little disconcerting, however.

Bernie

August 28th, 2012
2:03 pm

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ALERT!…….ALERT……..ALERT…ALERT!

For a Political party who have railed against Affirmative Action and anything that promotes INCLUSION and FAIRNESS. As We speak The Republicans are PERPETRATING one the of biggest ACTS of FRAUDS made by any political party
in MODERN TIMES. These REPUBLICAN LIARS are PURPOSELY and with great INTENT moving and placing what few minorities that are there in such a way that AMERICA will be fooled this evening.

This is the REPUBLICAN PARTY of 1950’s, Make NO MISTAKE about THAT!

Let US ALL Watch this GREAT ACT OF FRAUD…play out and knowing that they are ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES!

WHAT a BUNCH Of HYPOCRITES! The entire LOT of THEM….TRULY DESPICABLE! on ALL LEVELS.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:03 pm

getalife

August 28th, 2012
1:57 pm

“Intellectually dishonest is not intelligent.”

You ought to know.

Paul

August 28th, 2012
2:04 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 28th, 2012
2:04 pm

Stevie, as long as it’s merely test scores they’re comparing, I think we’re OK.

First man — “Wow, this river is cold.”
Second man — “Deep, too.”
Third man — “With rocks on the bottom.”

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:05 pm

“You might want to moderate your behavior today, given that Jay’s already banned two regulars in the last 24 hours.”

If I want or need your advice I’ll ask for it.

Don’t hold your breath.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

August 28th, 2012
2:05 pm

JoeHussein – You just admitted you are in the top 1 to 2%, your secret is out now dude! Welcome to the high-achievers society!

yuzeyurbrane

August 28th, 2012
2:05 pm

Romney will be ahead after a Convention bump. Then the rest will be a test of inexhaustible amounts of money v. facts.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:07 pm

“S’all right. Shockley’s test scores don’t really compare to mine anyway.”

But curiously Ben can make it through life without government there to hold his hand and wipe his butt.

Hmmmmmm……………..

Paul

August 28th, 2012
2:08 pm

Ben Shockley

” I’m 6′0″ and 195 pounds. i find your fascination with my physique a little disconcerting, however.”

As someone who’s supremely intelligent, it escapes us why you haven’t grasped the implications of what happens when one spends more time blogging and eating chips, less time exercising?

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

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August 28th, 2012
2:08 pm

I’m 6′0″ and 195 pounds…really means 5′0 and 290 pounds…and a virgin ;)

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:09 pm

Shockley — “That’s not what I implied.”

It’s precisely what you implied. Your words: “Kind of a shame to let all that talent get wasted on government dependance.”

The implication is clear. You were speaking of me and to me, and you clearly implied that I’m dependent on government in some way. Either retract and apologize, or elaborate and substantiate.

“You want that safety net there in case you do need it, and you want others to pay for it.”

You don’t know what I think, you haven’t asked me what I think, and you’re in no position to speak for me.

“Reading is fundamental.”

It certainly is. And honesty is fundamental, too, yet you’ve failed on both scores. Once again, Mr. Shockley, to what government dependence on my part do you refer?

Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

August 28th, 2012
2:09 pm

Just read some of Debbie Do Right stuff from last nite. Bad girl, probably should have got life no chance of parole or water-boarded. Time-Out just does not seem like enough, sorry Mr Taxpayer!

HDB

August 28th, 2012
2:09 pm

That Black Guy

August 28th, 2012
12:50 pm

When Michael Steele said that there were ONLY 32 black delegates to the 2008 GOP Convention in St. Paul…..and the evidence is clear that the GOP doesn’t WANT black people in the party (refer to Kevin Phillips, deviser of the Nixonian “Southern Strategy”, i.e., “black people have NO PLACE my Republican Party”), the question IS an appropriate one!!

Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

August 28th, 2012
1:26 pm
“Most of you people on this blog seem intelligent. Why do you constantly bring up Bush….”

Because everything is built upon what our predecessors have done!! QED…..

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August 28th, 2012
2:09 pm

Paul,

You gave him the means and I gave him the answer. :lol:

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:09 pm

“As someone who’s supremely intelligent, it escapes us why you haven’t grasped the implications of what happens when one spends more time blogging and eating chips, less time exercising?”

I probably spend an hour a week on this blog. Curiously, every time I do come here, the same liberal suspects are ALWAYS here.

Hmmmm…………….

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:10 pm

B. Shockley — “If I want or need your advice I’ll ask for it.”

You’ll receive it whether you want it or not. But you *certainly* need it.

“Don’t hold your breath.”

I couldn’t laugh at you as much as I am right now if I were holding my breath. :D

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 28th, 2012
2:11 pm

Kamchak,

Never heard the third entry classic…I came a cross a Hawaiian t-shirt expounding on Hawaiian art of living…one of them I particularly liked…”He with the most toys….still dies..”

Appropos of nothing of course….except perhaps our country’s pre-occupation with definition by what I have versus what kind of person I am…Everyone wants something that has no bearing (excepting of course the truly needy)happiness….like the Pink Floyd song “Dogs”…”..dragged down by the stone..stone stone..

Tom(Independent Viet Vet,USAF)

August 28th, 2012
2:11 pm

Guys, I never had an ex-wife or divorce, guess I just do not understand your logic?

Oscar

August 28th, 2012
2:11 pm

I heard the Unibomer put up some pretty good scores.
As did the last shooter in Colorado.

Would not brag to much.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:11 pm

JHM,

In the interest of full disclosure, I am about to ask you a direct question’

I prefer to live in a free society, devoid of government handout programs like welfare, foodstamps, unemployment payments, social security, medicare, etc.

You?

Logical Dude

August 28th, 2012
2:12 pm

Jay, Is Romney really trying to get a rule passed at the convention that lets the leading candidate adjust the delegates for the states? (Or did I misread what has the Texas delegates up in arms?)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the Left of me Jokers to the Right, here I am...

August 28th, 2012
2:12 pm

What exactly did Debbie Do Right put forth to get all this attention?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 28th, 2012
2:12 pm

Just read some of Debbie Do Right stuff from last nite. Bad girl, probably should have got life no chance of parole or water-boarded.

Go to blogspot.com.
Create your own blog.
Decide on appropriate punishment for the visitors there

the cat

August 28th, 2012
2:12 pm

Ben-I am so sorry. What I meant to say was you are a strange little man acting like a 12 year old girl. Better?

Oscar

August 28th, 2012
2:13 pm

Most of you people on this blog seem intelligent. Why do you constantly bring up Bush….”

______

Failure to grasp what is really wrong with out economy.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:14 pm

Houston, we have a problem.

JHM, now faced with a direct question, is suddenly not quite so witty and full of himself.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:14 pm

Ben – Even better idea, can we move Al and Jesse to just before Biden, say around 2:00 a.m. ? That way Biden may never even get to speak.

Oscar

August 28th, 2012
2:15 pm

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:11 pm

____

Pitcairn Island needs someone like you, so does Somalia.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:15 pm

“Ben-I am so sorry. What I meant to say was you are a strange little man acting like a 12 year old girl. Better?”

You seem to know a lot about 12-yr-old girls, and you spend an awful lot of time on the internet.

Hmmm………..

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:16 pm

Anybody seen or heard from JHM?

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:17 pm

B. Shockley — “JHM, In the interest of full disclosure, I am about to ask you a direct question”

“I prefer to live in a free society, devoid of government handout programs like welfare, foodstamps, unemployment payments, social security, medicare, etc. You?”

I will be more than pleased to respond substantively to your query.

Once you have given me a substantive and satisfactory response to the question I’ve presented to you several times now.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 28th, 2012
2:17 pm

You seem to know a lot about 12-yr-old girls, and you spend an awful lot of time on the internet.

Poor Hairy.

He hasn’t yet figured things out.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:18 pm

B. Shockley — “JHM, now faced with a direct question, is suddenly not quite so witty and full of himself.”

Denied.

“Anybody seen or heard from JHM?”

You just did.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:18 pm

Berrnie, Bernie, Bernie – Affirmative actions isn’t about inclusion and fairness. It’s about giving someone an advantage based on their sex, race, etc. That’s what it’s all about.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

August 28th, 2012
2:18 pm

Anybody seen or heard from JHM?

Yes.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:18 pm

“I will be more than pleased to respond substantively to your query.

Once you have given me a substantive and satisfactory response to the question I’ve presented to you several times now.”

I’ve already responded substantively to your question, at least twice now.

Nice attempted dodge though.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:20 pm

ATTENTION BLOGGERS: We are now moving into the “JHM and his 99th percentile scores can’t answer a simple question” portion of the program.

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:20 pm

B. Shockley — “I’ve already responded substantively to your question, at least twice now.”

You’ve done no such thing. Your replies are evasive and insubstantial.

“Nice attempted dodge though.”

The only one dodging here is you. It’s a shame that you don’t have the courage of your convictions.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:21 pm

Kamchak, would you like to see the United States become a socialist society?

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:21 pm

B. Shockley — “ATTENTION BLOGGERS: We are now moving into the “JHM and his 99th percentile scores can’t answer a simple question” portion of the program.”

Brought to you by BEN SHOCKLEY WON’T ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTIONS, for all your dodging and evasion needs.

Paul

August 28th, 2012
2:22 pm

Normal

Teamwork’s kinda fun. But not as much fun as it could be if there weren’t so much avoidance and diversion , as in the post following your 2:09.

Tom 2:11

Seems there’s a few issues that get combined into one so the responses to general statements are all over the map.

- the financial collapse occurred at the end of Pres Bush’s watch

- the basis for the collapse were many, with lack of regulation and oversight, as well as risky practices by lending institutions, leading the pack

- Bush presented Pres Obama with a fiscal year well along that was a trillion and a half in the red, with vastly lower revenues and increasing requirements for social safety programs

- Obama team regularly pointed this out

- at some point many people began tiring of the message of “this is what Bush left us to deal with” and took the attitude of “fine…. now fix it!”

- Obama message on steps taken to correct and positive results (total jobs numbers, Bush v Obama, or new spending programs, Bush v Obama) was muddled.

- Any explanation of what’s being done invariably gets back to why the steps are still necessary in the first place.

Hence the divorced wife and credit card example.

It’s like a rorschach test – people look at it and see what they want to see.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:22 pm

ATTENTION BLOGGERS: We are also moving into the “Kamchak can’t answer a straight question” portion of the program.

Jay

August 28th, 2012
2:23 pm

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 28th, 2012
2:23 pm

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:11 pm
JHM,

In the interest of full disclosure, I am about to ask you a direct question’

I prefer to live in a free society, devoid of government handout programs like welfare, foodstamps, unemployment payments, social security, medicare, etc.

You?

.
.
.
Imagine JHM will be back…but in the meantime I’ll answer the questions.

Me?

No.

I prefer to live in a society that cares for all its people.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:23 pm

Hussein,

I answered your question.

Everyone on this blog now sees you for waht you are. A blowhard.

Bernie

August 28th, 2012
2:24 pm

What the good Governor is telling US NOW and would never have said before T_SPLOST vote. No More help for the POOR and Needy citizens of our state. Those groups who benefit the MOST are our SENIORS and OUR CHILDREN!

The most defenseless group of our citizenry. Great JOB Govnor DEAL! there is a
special PLACE in HELL For CHRISTIANS LIKE YOU WAITING.

just for you. You will hear the screams and cries of ALL of the thousands ofthose you have denied FOREVER. Yo will feel each and everyone of their PERSONAL PAIN and DISCOMFORT. Especially when it was in your power to HELP! and You said “NO!”

A TRULY DESPICABLE ACT! Indeed.

Instead of doing something GOOD & NOBLE, he plans to move forward with a NEW “GOLDEN WELFARE PLAN” called Georgia Charter Schools at a initial cost of $430 MILLION Dollars!

Mayor REED, where is your OUTRAGE ….NOW! where is your vocal support of Georgia’s most NEEDIEST Citizens? We too, will remember you in the NEXT ELECTION.

You and DEAL are two of the same EVIL!

May GOD continue to Bless and Protect President OBAMA, The True Helper of Americans of those in NEED!

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

August 28th, 2012
2:24 pm

What is a “socialist society”?

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:24 pm

“I prefer to live in a society that cares for all its people.”

That’s why we have charities, the antithesis of compassionate liberals, i.e. those always willing to help the poor with other people’s money.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:25 pm

Hussein, looks like Bookman just threw you a lifeline.

Bernie

August 28th, 2012
2:25 pm

A response to KYLE blog that would not be accepted and posted….Gov.DEAL says no to Medicaid expansion.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:26 pm

Bloggers, please note that Kamchak will mock people for bringing up socialism, but has not the courage to discuss it.

bman

August 28th, 2012
2:26 pm

Obama far off from his highs. Romney is actually in a very good position. Being able to take advantage of that and build some momentum is another story.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:26 pm

“Imagine JHM will be back”

Don’t count on it.

HDB

August 28th, 2012
2:26 pm

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:18 pm
Berrnie, Bernie, Bernie – Affirmative actions isn’t about inclusion and fairness. It’s about giving someone an advantage based on their sex, race, etc. That’s what it’s all about.”

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! All Affirmaative Action did was to give minorities the SAME ACCESS to those same structures that generated progress as white citiens already had!! When one group of people had a 150-year HEAD START in economic capability….

Jay

August 28th, 2012
2:27 pm

Ben, cease your personal attacks or be gone.

Last warning.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:28 pm

“It’s a shame that you don’t have the courage of your convictions.”

By disavowing government handouts, I’m afraid I have demonstarted EXACTLY that…courage of my convictions.

You…well…not so much.

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:28 pm

Jay, you going to enforce that on the others????????????

HDB

August 28th, 2012
2:29 pm

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
“I prefer to live in a society that cares for all its people.”

That’s why we have charities, the antithesis of compassionate liberals, i.e. those always willing to help the poor with other people’s money.”

…and show me a charity that can assist the MASSES of people who have issues that homelessness, economic hardship, mass illnesses…..???

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:32 pm

B. Shockley — “Hussein, I answered your question.”

Your answer was non-responsive, and I have explained this to you several times. Since you aren’t quick enough on the uptake to get it. I will explain once more.

You said this: Kind of a shame to let all that talent get wasted on government dependance,

That is *clearly* an implication that I personally receive government assistance. I have asked you several times to elaborate, and you have offered nothing but pitiful dodges. I now conclude that you were attempting to insult me, but that since you neither the character nor the courage to come right out and expressly articulate what you were clearly implying, you’re probably afraid to do so for some reason.

“Everyone on this blog now sees you for waht you are. A blowhard.”

There you go, trying to speak for others again and failing. (laughing) :D

You are dishonest and evasive. And your attempt to insult me has both failed and has blown up in your face.

If you ever want answers from me to any of your future questions, then you’ll answer — substantively and to my satisfaction — the question I’ve posed to you in this thread. I don’t enable or play well with dishonest, mendacious and manipulative people, and unless you care to be treated like one by me, you’ll man up and do what’s right — either retract and apologize or elaborate and clarify.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:36 pm

Ben – the left is like a school of crazed piranha when faced with the TRUTH. They can’t handle the TRUTH. They actually think you are making fun of them. Folks Ben didn’t make that itinerary for the Dem Convention up. My wife just got a copy of it in the mail – inviting her (and her money) to the convention. Like I said though, Dems aren’t that good at scheduling because they only gave Al & Jesse a total of 15 minutes to speak in prime time. No way that’s going to work!. My wife is a member of Mensa (top 2%) worldwide in I.Q. and she still has some degree of common sense. She isn’t going to vote Obama!

Robert Lee

August 28th, 2012
2:36 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

August 28th, 2012
2:38 pm

B. Shockley — “By disavowing government handouts, I’m afraid I have demonstarted EXACTLY that…courage of my convictions.”

No. You have repeatedly refused to demonstrate the courage of your convictions by clarifying what you were trying to say to me earlier. Don’t muddy the waters.

“You…well…not so much.”

Hey, I’m still here. You…well…not so much.

(laughing) :D

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

August 28th, 2012
2:41 pm

Ben Shockley

August 28th, 2012
2:24 pm
“I prefer to live in a society that cares for all its people.”

That’s why we have charities, the antithesis of compassionate liberals, i.e. those always willing to help the poor with other people’s money.

Piffle

but your opinion is ….. registered.

oh and, Ben….JHM did come back….

You can count on him. So can I.

I like that.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:42 pm

Just going to have to disagree with you on affirmative action. Adding to test scores based on race, sex, etc. is giving one group an advantage over another based on their race, sex, etc. That’s all I have to say about this subject.

That Black Guy

August 28th, 2012
2:44 pm

Rosita

August 28th, 2012
12:17 pm
Joe Hussein Mama , obviously I am doing it wrong because if I was doing it the Santorum way I’d have 6 or 7 kids by now. And darn if I know how I could pay for them all. But I guess sick Rick Santorum would help me out since I would have been doing it “the way things ought to be”. LMAO
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First let me say, Santorum is an idiot and an azz.

But, he is NOT on the ballot for president.
He is not in Congress.
He hs NO power to do anything outside his family.

Ryan, on the other hand, IS in congress, and it’s HIS views on BC and abortion that need to be defeated.

Not a powerless Santorum.

Just my opinion of course,

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:48 pm

Mama – I read Ben’s comment. You could have inferred that he was speaking directly to you if you are that sensitive. On the other, hand I can infer that he wasn’t. You wanted an answer and received one.

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

August 28th, 2012
2:50 pm

Bloggers, please note that Kamchak will mock people for bringing up socialism, but has not the courage to discuss it.

Nope, I merely want to get the definitions straight.

When you say “socialist society” I want to know that you aren’t referring to a four legged quadruped with retractable claws.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:51 pm

Ben – realize that Jay has a different view of personal attacks and slurs than those less sensitive. Tread lightly and try to be sweeter like mama and Thugette.

Morality?

August 28th, 2012
2:56 pm

Kamchak – A perfect description for society as Obama wishes it to be. Socialism is a four legged quadruped with retractable claws. That’s also, ironically, a description for Nanny Pelosi.